Ezekiel Contradictions: Bible Study by Atheists

[00:00:00] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. For this is what this Auburn Lord says, Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want? If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done then you can justify any of your behavior.

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[00:00:54] For real for real. Yeah, like this is going to be the final episode. It has anything to do with Ezekiel. Right. Fuck that guy. Well, and what is it that we're what episode are we doing today? You are always wrong!

[00:01:07] Or as I like to call it the contradictions episode. About Ezekiel. Yes. So we're going to go through and find some contradictions. I'm assuming. Sure, fuck will. All right. You ready to do this? Let's do it. Okay. All right.

[00:01:25] We are jumping into the final Fufra that has to do with Ezekiel. Yes. And it is your always wrong. Don't tell me that it's a contradiction. It's a contradiction. No, I'm not saying it's a contradiction. No, okay. Just draw it. I said, I'm sad about it.

[00:01:46] Well, I want to be right. You can see right all the other times. All right. You do. You're generally right or than I am. Generally. Generally. So this is the one episode where I get to be right all the time.

[00:01:58] Well, I mean, technically you're just reading the questions. I'm just all wrong. I'm just all wrong. I'm the one that prepared them. Therefore. All right. Ready? Number one. I'm ready. Does God lie? We've had this one before. I'm going to go with yes. Okay. Okay. You're right.

[00:02:16] There were some times in first king second chronicles. And as he killed when he did lie. Yeah. For example, in first king, she said, now therefore behold the Lord have put a lying spirit in the mouth of these prophets and the Lord have spoken even concerning thee.

[00:02:34] Remember that? Yeah, but that doesn't mean fairly. He didn't lie, but he made. Right. We had a problem with that the first time. Okay. So we'll let that one go. Sure. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right.

[00:02:49] And in Ezekiela says, and if a prophet be deceived when he has spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. Oh. That's right. Well, but that doesn't say he did. It just says that if that happens.

[00:03:07] And I'm assuming that the part of that is like it never did happen. Well, I think that that's what we're supposed to think. But if a prophet is deceived when he speaks a thing. Right.

[00:03:18] But the thing is though, he's very God is very picky about who his prophets are. Mm. And so therefore just because they call themselves a prophet doesn't make them a prophet. But God refers to them as prophets. Right. Right. That's true.

[00:03:34] He doesn't ever say that they're not prophets. But I guess my idea of when God lies is more in line with just the the stuff where he says things are going to happen than they don't. I know call that a lie. I would call that.

[00:03:48] How you're got to stupid and didn't know because he doesn't exist. But if he does, he's not all powerful and knowledgeable like you think he is. Right. Right.

[00:03:58] And again, the whole the whole idea though of him lying though is kind of the basis for our whole series of contradictions. Right. Okay. To some extent. Okay. Like the contradictions in the Bible are essentially God lies. Okay.

[00:04:11] That's where I that's where I call my version of what I agree with that. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. Well, but it's the word of God. Okay. But that's not my understanding of what we were doing when we started the contradictions.

[00:04:23] It was just places in the Bible where somebody wrote it one way and one book. And then somebody else wrote it a different way as what contradicts itself. I don't consider that God lying. I consider that as humankind got the story wrong. I agree with you. I do.

[00:04:42] I agree with you 100%. Except for there are a multitude of people and I mean, a lot of people. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I know. I'm just making sure that the Bible is is in the word of God.

[00:04:57] And therefore if it is contradicted somewhere, that would be a lie. That would be wrong. That would be incorrect. I'm going to push back on that though because a lie intends to be or to me, a lie means that malice and trickery is involved.

[00:05:20] And I think that Christians would argue that it was not malice and malicious intent. And it was not any kind of cruel trickery, except in the case of Job. But I just take exception to saying that incorrectness is lying. Okay. Well, I mean we can disagree.

[00:05:46] I take that the maliciousness and to me is that people try to pass off the word of God is the Bible. Right. And no, no, no, no, I'm getting to another point.

[00:05:59] The Bible then is somewhat insidious with regard to how people are forced to live their lives that are in these cults that are in these sex that, you know, so therefore that that

[00:06:11] incorrectness that's in the Bible is in itself a malicious lie because it brings to light the idea that God is not infallible. God is probably not real and this was really written by man.

[00:06:24] So okay, I guess the question would be then are we doing these with the understanding that God is fake or are we doing these with the let's play along for the sake of argument and in canon God is real.

[00:06:42] I think much like we always do we kind of play both sides right we we see it we know you and I know from our perspective and most of our listeners perspectives. That God is fake and this was written by man. Sure right.

[00:06:57] So therefore the fallacies that are inherent in the Bible are there because of human air and or oversight or whatever. However, that leaves the people that are listening that are trying to you know that that take this from a biblical God is correct perspective.

[00:07:20] We had we play that other side for their benefit right for the people that are not non believers that are listening to our podcast maybe trying to prove us wrong.

[00:07:31] Maybe trying to secure their own belief or however you want to look at it, but they're taking the Bible as the literal word of God. And so therefore we play the bit sometimes where we're like okay this is the word of God.

[00:07:45] Okay and and so we kind of have to play both sides to get both perspectives I sure.

[00:07:50] And that's that's where I'm coming at this question it's that I didn't mean to turn this into a big you know what I'm doing here but no no I guess we just never really talked about it we just kind of.

[00:08:00] Did it at face value how all the Bible contradicts itself sure but this particular question has come up more than once and.

[00:08:09] And it turns out that in the Bible God does not say that he does not say it does not say anywhere there that he lies right technically so that one I think causes other people to contact to the Bible is incorrect right like there is an actual answer God does not lie according to the Bible.

[00:08:27] Now again if you take it out of that context and look at the Bible as a whole in the contradictions that are there.

[00:08:34] There is where the lie comes into play and I would still not call that a lie because if you're going outside of cannon and saying God doesn't exist that means it's just people wrote it down wrong.

[00:08:46] Right but again that's where I give it into that whole argument that we just had it with read with. You know where we're talking about people who take the Bible literally and as the word of God.

[00:08:55] So I agree with you and but I want to make it clear as to why I'm saying what I'm saying so that's all sorry that was you want to tell us why God doesn't lie real quick because I know I butcher that whole section there.

[00:09:08] That was that was all of us saying yes God lies even though apparently he kind of doesn't correct I still think he does but. I'm not by any particular verse I guess right right but no God doesn't lie yeah.

[00:09:25] It says in numbers God is not a man that he should lie neither the son of man that he should repent. Okay and then it says in second Samuel that our that God and thy words be true. Okay. Okay. I disagree with him not having to repent also.

[00:09:43] Oh that comes up later. We'll talk about that later. Yep, that's another one of the questions we do. Yeah. And I think that's fun the more that we read and we read do these questions with one more bit of information. Yeah.

[00:09:58] The more we can argue about not argue by like have a heated discussion. We have more of an understanding of what God entails. Yeah or what the Jewish tradition believes God entails. Right right. Yeah. All right number two is God merciful.

[00:10:16] No no remember he was he strikes remember we just did that we just did the Q and A where we did the the quiz and God strikes. He says that himself. Yep, no he does so no he ain't kind and merciful. I don't know.

[00:10:32] Yeah and for Samuel it says now go and smite amillac and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not but Slaibald men and woman infant and suckling see disc terrible fucking dick and then twice in a Zekil he's like fuck everybody.

[00:10:49] It says in my at least okay I took two examples and mine I shall not spare the neither will I have pity. Okay, and then it also says go ye after him through the city and smite let not your eyes bare net neither have you pity.

[00:11:08] Slaibald and young both maids and little children and women. Yeah good stuff. You might the fuck out of all of the kill kill kill never not be killing remember how he was going to have the dogs or whatever that was coming in you know eat people and bodies.

[00:11:28] Yeah, remember when he was going to have you walk through the blood of yeah dance in the fucking blood basically yeah that was that was sick and he. But guess what I'm I'm you're always wrong.

[00:11:42] I have a trouble saying that one in that sentence I've been here to witness this and I'm just like no no he's not he's not merciful but he declares himself merciful.

[00:11:53] Man declares him merciful they do in the Bible so in due to ronami it says for the Lord like God is a merciful God. Mm-hmm and then it says in second Samuel let us fall now into the hand of the Lord for his mercies are great.

[00:12:08] Yeah, and then in Jeremiah it says I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you for I am merciful say at the Lord and I will not keep anger forever. Right.

[00:12:19] I think he's actually said that he's going to keep anger for it like he's done against the Israelites and going to be angry forever. I would call that a lie or repenting and that's what I'm saying. Okay, that's what I'm saying right there that's a liar repenting.

[00:12:32] It's also a contradiction. It is a contradiction right so that that's where I'm saying that some of these contradictions kind of fall into the lie category. All right, but I would call that a repent not a lie. I guess I guess.

[00:12:45] I mean if you say something and then you change your mind later did you lie when you first set it?

[00:12:49] I mean hypothetically when we get to the new testament like the whole the whole idea of God changes his mind so therefore everything from the past could be taken as a lie. Right, right. It's something in some sense. Right.

[00:13:03] I guess but in the Old Testament itself it does a lot of this back and forth. So particularly because as E.K. I'll try to change some some shit. Yeah, he did. Yeah, we'll get into some of that. Okay. All right. Number three. Yeah.

[00:13:17] Are we punished for the sins of others? Mm-hmm. Well, I'm going to get since we're in Ezekiel. Mm-hmm. I'm going to say no because there was the new idea. Right. Put forth that we are solely responsible for our actions. Right. Because he feels like we're not doing that.

[00:13:35] Yeah. God's. Which that was a shocking revelation in this book that was like, wow. Part of what makes the book so controversial and religious leaders who argue about whether it should even be in the Bible.

[00:13:47] I you have to wonder like is the entire like not the entire but as a large basis of what Christianity is based off of Ezekiel right based on this statement alone. Like that idea that you were solely responsible for your relationship with God.

[00:14:04] To me is a very Christian idea not a Jewish idea. It is, but having said that I have read ahead to take some notes from the next book that we're going to be covering. Okay.

[00:14:17] And there are specific things mentioned in the book of Daniel that I can see where of the more Christian just picked it right up in Ram one. Yeah. Okay. So if we're going to say that I would say, yeah, this and the book of Daniel and like basically.

[00:14:34] Well, I don't know anything about the upcoming books. Right. I mean like literally no, I know nothing about it. It just seems like the closer we get to the end of the Old Testament, the more that the Christians going to. Sure. You know.

[00:14:46] Well, it does feel like you know, time wise we have been going further in time as we progress. Yeah, so we're getting closer and closer to Christianity. So some of these ideas might just be permeating their society. Yeah, they would have been floating around that's how religion starts.

[00:15:02] Yeah. Right. So yeah, that makes sense. All right. So but guess what? I'm not really wrong. Yeah. I wasn't seeing it anymore because this episode is annoying enough without me singing it. All right.

[00:15:17] I'm going to say, oh, I didn't read the examples did I know you said no because of a Zikil. Right. The we are not punished for the sins of others. Sorry. I'm fine. Yeah. All right.

[00:15:31] So in due toonomy it says the father shall not be put to death for the children. Neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers. Every man shall be put to death for his own sin. That was due toonomy. That was in due toonomy. Interesting. Okay.

[00:15:45] Yeah, but it also said other stuff in due toonomy. That's why it's yeah. And I think that's been in our contradictions before too. Oh, yeah, definitely.

[00:15:52] And Jeremiah says in those days they shall say no more the fathers have eaten a sour grape and the children's teeth are set on edge. But everyone shall die for his own in equity. Okay.

[00:16:05] Now of course as you pointed out in a Zikil it says the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father. And I have their shall the father bear the iniquity of the son.

[00:16:13] The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

[00:16:18] So I guess I should say I guess it wasn't quite as unique of an idea overall as I thought but I guess the way it was stated in a Zikil felt more succinct and he made it solid, not wishy washy. Right. Yeah.

[00:16:33] Because I feel like it was contradicted almost immediately in his other books. Yeah, definitely. Oh, if not specifically in due to ronomy somewhere in the pentafuckin' to- Right. Yeah. No it. Yeah. This was a whole philosophy from one of the prophets.

[00:16:46] Something that's why I was like this is interesting. Yeah. Definitely. All right. So but guess what? You're wrong. Right. Yeah. Because yeah you're totally punished for the sins of others. In both Exodus and due to ronomy it says specifically,

[00:17:00] I, the Lord, I God, am a jealous God visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. Yeah. Because fuck those kids is why. Right. Also it says in Jeremiah, where floor have the Lord pronounced all this great evil against us?

[00:17:19] Or what is our iniquity? Or what is our sin that we have committed against the Lord, our God? Then shout they'll say unto them because your fathers have forsaken me say if the Lord and have

[00:17:29] walked after other gods and have served them and have worshiped them and have forsaken me and have not kept my law. Which is funny because Jeremiah was actually only about 20 years prior to his he healed and just happened to be in Jerusalem as opposed to Babylon. Yeah.

[00:17:46] So we're talking about 20 years in which according to these prophets, God changed his mind. Here's another thing that I didn't realize until I was against studying Daniel and it was permeating. The group that got taken up to Babylon, they were all the smarties and the court people

[00:18:08] and the scribes and all that. But yet Jeremiah was left behind. Kind of. Right. So it's like was he not as smart as we think he is? Well I don't think that that was what it was.

[00:18:20] I think we talked about it at the time and he was a double agent. That's right. So he was working against the remainder of Jerusalem to make sure that everything was falling in line. He was the Trump leading the masses, the stupid masses. Right. Yeah. Alright.

[00:18:37] Last month, first Kings, Seist Dau how a have humble with himself before me because he humble him, humble his himself before me, I will not bring the evil in his days but in his suns days will I bring the evil upon his house?

[00:18:52] I'm not going to kill him because he's nice instead I'm going to kill a son. Right. Yeah, that's real bullshit. That's real bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. Look back by. God's a dick. Yep. Alright. Number four. How should the e-demites be treated? Kindly or kill him?

[00:19:07] I mean, come with kindness. I think that you should treat them kindly. I agree. Why would you treat them like ass? I agree. I could treat them like ass. I can only find one place where it says be kind to them. Yeah. That's what I mean.

[00:19:23] It says Dau shout not up or an e-demite for he is thy brother. Right. Which they were at the time, yeah. Yeah. And then that would be in the face to large later just for the removed.

[00:19:36] Now I believe that there are some places coming up maybe in the new testament where it will say yeah, yeah, be nice to the fucking e-demites. Really? I saw somewhere somewhere where we haven't been yet. Okay. And so I couldn't quote that one. Cut it.

[00:19:51] So we will be coming back to this question. Interesting. Yeah. But guess what? I'm wrong. You're wrong because of course you should kill them. It says in second Kings and Amazaya did that which was right in the side of the Lord.

[00:20:08] He slew of e-dom in the valley of salt 10,000. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because killing. Right. And then of course in Ezekiel it says, I will also stretch out my hand upon e-dom. And I will cut off man and beast from it. Yeah. Yeah. Get him. Right. Never not be killing.

[00:20:28] Right. Killing like a villain. All right. Number five. Does God repent? No. No, that fucker doesn't give two shits. He does change his mind. I wouldn't call that repenting even though the word repent is what's used in various translations.

[00:20:45] Generally though he changes his mind because he is worried about what people think of it. Yeah. It's not about. He doesn't feel sorry. Yeah. He's not, um, he's not like, oh, I did wrong that time. Right. He's not sorry for his crimes. No, he feels embarrassed or something.

[00:21:04] Yeah. Yeah. He gets hilarious to me. He gets shamed into changing his mind about, right. Right. Right. Yeah. And he will change his mind with the blow of the wind. Right. You're going to say no. He is God does not repent. Okay. So you're right.

[00:21:21] In numbers it says God is not a man that he should lie neither the son of a man that he should repent, okay? Which we read that earlier in the does god lie. Right.

[00:21:31] And then in first Samuel it says the strength of Israel will not lie nor repent for he is not a man that he should repent. Okay. Yeah. And in a Zeekeel it says, I, the Lord has spoken. It shall come to pass and I will do it.

[00:21:45] You will not go back. Neither will I spare neither will I repent. Okay. Now, I'm going to say instead of your wrong. I'm going to say the Bible is wrong. Oh, oh, oh. Wait. This is mean that I'm right. Yes but just this one time. Oh damn.

[00:22:08] Just like Mark this down. Just this one. Mark it down. I'm right. Because yes, the Lord does repent according to the word that's used in the translations as they are given. I'm not sure like per conversation we just had at that count says repenting. Okay. Right.

[00:22:30] In Genesis it says and it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth and it grieved him at his heart. Okay. He's like, I wish I never made those fuckers. Yeah. Not repenting or is that bitter?

[00:22:42] I have a hard time believing that first of all because he could especially even back then. He could have just wiped him out. Yeah. You could have been like the best place did multiple times. Right. So if he really repented of that, he could have rectified that. Yeah.

[00:22:57] He could have fixed it or just blown him out of existence. Yeah. Yeah. So then in Jeremiah like way later, you know, if that nation against whom I have pronounced turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do one to them.

[00:23:13] But that is easy for him to say knowing that they won't do it because this was written after the fact. Right. And it's also a thought experiment he's saying that if they do this, I will repent of my thought of doing bad things to them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[00:23:35] You haven't actually repented. You just said that you might. Yeah. Which if your God, you already know they're not going to so they're for how could you even say that statement and mean it. Yeah. Exactly. Because that's just dumb. So again, the Bible says that's repenting.

[00:23:51] I'm going to say that's the wrong use of that word. I agree. Okay. Last one. And first Samuel is says, it repenteth me. God that I have set up soul to be king.

[00:24:02] For he has turned back from following me and have not performed my commandments, which was committing complete genocide on the amalachites. And the Lord repented that he had made soul king over his real. It doesn't sound so much like he's saying repent is regret. Yeah.

[00:24:18] I'm like repenting to me means that you are fully admitting you were wrong and you're taking responsibility for it. For your mistake and you feel bad and moreover you're taking actions to rectify. That's what repent means according to the whole Jesus he thing I believe. Sure.

[00:24:37] Like you have to do more than just say, I'm sorry. But this just sounds like regret. This is salty. That's all. You salty. They fucked up and you salty over it. You instance that you mentioned sounded like regret. Yeah.

[00:24:49] And they were things that if he was actually God, he could have easily fixed. Right. So why didn't he if he actually felt this way? Right. Exactly. I think that they just mis translated a word repeatedly. Yeah. And it should not say repent. Right.

[00:25:06] Or it was used differently back then. I don't know. Fucking whatever. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. Number six. Is it okay to marry your wife's sister while your wife is still alive? Um, really this is a question. You don't? Interesting. Yes or no.

[00:25:23] Are you actually going to go with? No. I mean, I don't think it's ever. I don't think it's that's the story. That's not appropriate. Yeah. Like if I died, don't marry my sister. But this says well, there's still a live. Whether I'm alive or dead.

[00:25:37] No, no, no, no, no, no. I got you. But definitely not why you're alive. You're going to do it. Which one I'm dead, but don't do it. But if I am dead. Say in like this is like extra bad. Yeah. This is extra.

[00:25:49] It's like degrees of how fucked up are you sir. Yeah. Right. All right. So no. Okay. Okay. You're right because in Leviticus it says neither shout, now take a wife to her sister to vex her to uncover her nakedness beside the other in her lifetime. Okay.

[00:26:07] Don't fucking do it. Don't fuck her sister. Right. Yeah. But guess what? I'm wrong. We're always wrong. Both of us on this one. Because yeah, it's totally okay to marry your sister, your wife's sister, while your wife is still alive. This is true. You were the sad.

[00:26:23] Genesis and Isikil. We read Genesis first. Okay. Jacob said unto Leban, give me my wife for my days or fulfilled that I may go in under her and Leban took Leah his daughter and brought her to him and he went in under her

[00:26:37] and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also. Because remember that was that story where Jacob worked for like ten hundred years or whatever to marry the one that he wanted to marry which was Rebecca and Rachel Rachel.

[00:26:54] But the dad like tricked him and gave him Rachel's sister, Leia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so then he had to marry Leah. And the way the best story was pitched to us. It doesn't sound as bad because like he was supposed to marry Rachel right?

[00:27:16] And then this dad is like, no you're going to take this girl and then you're going to marry her and he's like fuck dude I was I'm one of the married Rachel. And he's like it seemed like a natural like I don't know.

[00:27:29] He was meant to be with Rachel right? So we accepted this story in that context but like when you say it in the context of he married his wife's sister, yeah. That's pretty fucked up. It's a fucked up scenario.

[00:27:41] I think anytime you have a ranged marriage is it's going to be fucked up. Exactly. And the problem goes even further because then when he and Rachel can't have children, yeah. He fucks the hell out of Leah and both Leah and Rachel's handmaids. Right.

[00:28:00] And God endorses all this and then God impregnates Rachel. Right. He's fucked everybody and had a thousand babies with all of them. Then God's like, just kidding here Rachel you can have a baby now. Right.

[00:28:18] He didn't impregnate her it was no you're right but he allowed her to be impregnated. He flipped the switch and her fucking uterus something. Yeah. It just it bothers me. It bothers me that oh you could have done that the whole fucking time asshole.

[00:28:34] And then it also bothers me because Jacob has to have children so bad that he has to fuck. The wife he didn't want and both of their maids. Yeah. Like that's so gross. No I agree. I agree.

[00:28:46] The the entire story is very questionable with regard to morality and ethics and everything else. And the fact that God endorses much of that is very weird and questionable as well. And this right here is some of the stuff that the right wants to bring back.

[00:29:04] The right yeah yeah. Project 2025. Yeah yeah. It is they want to take away women's right to vote. Right. That has been stated now by several Republican doofuses. Right. They want to take away women's right to vote and they want to make women be property of men.

[00:29:28] And that just leads right into men being able to have more than one life. Right. And you know, while they're at it go ahead and fuck their daughters too. You know, that's fun. Yeah. Just fuck everything.

[00:29:40] All you need is a whole that you are you are a smart guy who is big dicked and wonderful. And yet all you need is a fucking hole that's all you want in your life. You just want to put your dick in a hole.

[00:29:56] And you're going on with this. Yeah. I'm just going off because that is just gross. Yeah. No, I agree. Okay. Sorry moving on. So okay. So that was the yes. It's perfectly fine. No, no, it's not perfectly fine. Yeah. It's not perfectly fine but God said it was.

[00:30:19] Yeah. Right. In more than one place including as he killed. Right. Okay. Okay. Um, can God be seen? Um, I mean, he's this. He saw this glory but it was in a dream. So I'm going to go with no actually this time because people saw him.

[00:30:38] What where when Moses saw him face the face? Yeah. No, I know. And and is he still saw his growing? But that was again in his dream is his. Okay. Okay. So you're going with no this time I'm going to go with no. All right.

[00:30:56] I think you've gone with yes. I've done with yes in the past. Yeah. All right. So in Exodus is there's no man see me and live. Right. So if you see me you'll die fuckers. Sure. So there's that but then in Genesis it says,

[00:31:09] My name shall be called no more Jacob but Israel. So that's when Jacob gets his new name. Right. For as a prince has to die power with God and with men and has prevailed.

[00:31:21] And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel for I have seen God based a face. And my life is preserved. Hmm. So all right. I'm just saying Jacob saw his face. That's what we hear. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then in Exodus it says,

[00:31:37] And the Lord spoke to Moses face to face as a man speak of to his friend. Got it. So then there's two dudes now granted both of those are in the pen to two, and there's all stories and not like actual history. Right.

[00:31:53] So go ahead back and more over when we were talking about Jacob and everything. And we were talking about tribes. We weren't even talking about people. Actually people. Yeah. It's prehistory. Yeah. So it's interesting how they interject these things into that. Right. You know,

[00:32:11] the way that they told these stories and how the Scott appears to these tribes is what they're talking about. Yeah. But it's interesting how that all works out. So I don't really know what to say about it other than it's all really weird. It is all really weird.

[00:32:26] Yeah. And then in Ezekiel it says, This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. All right. So I guess nobody did see God. Right. Right.

[00:32:41] I mean, as long as we're not allowing for the dudes in the pen to two. Sure. For being prehistory. Yeah. All right. So nobody's wrong. Everybody's right. And nobody saw God. And we all get to live. Wow. Okay. All right. This one's a doozy. Yeah. All right.

[00:33:00] Number eight. I haven't heard you say, I'm always wrong for like two sections now. I know. We'll get to it. Okay. All right. I'll do it on this one. Okay. Yeah. You're not going to get this one right? No. I'm supposed to always be wrong. So yeah.

[00:33:16] What is the correct recipe for the new moon sacrifice? The new moon sacrifice. Yeah. There's one given in numbers and there's one given in a ZQ. Oh. Okay. All right. And they're different. And I'll read the difference between the two. Okay.

[00:33:34] So just pick which one you think is right or numbers or ZQ. All right. All right. Which one? I'm going to go with ZQ. Really? I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, as you feel so, you know, wheels and eyeballs. That's a point against your case.

[00:33:55] You know, all kinds of shit. That's a point against your case, not for it. I know, but he just seems like maybe had the good shit. So it'd be cool to hang out with. That is true. All right. So in numbers,

[00:34:08] the rest of he was two Bullocks, one ram, seven lambs and a goat. Okay. But in ZQ, instead of two Bullocks, it was just one. Both call for one ram. Numbers calls for seven lambs, but in a ZQ you only need six.

[00:34:24] And ZQ does not call for a goat whereas there is a goat in numbers. You know, the skate goat. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So that's very interesting.

[00:34:35] So if you go with the ZQ's recipe, then the interesting thing is that the prestees don't get any of the goat meat. Okay. So are you sure that's what you want to do? And they also get one less lamb. So they get less meat.

[00:34:50] Really give it a shit. They also get one less bullock. Yeah. I'm just thinking like, he, maybe they had less meat. And that's why he's like cutting down his leg. Oh, maybe God went on the diet. God went on a diet. I mean, I'm just saying. There is.

[00:35:05] I mean, there's, there has to be a reason why he cut down the recipe. And he would, he's one of the Zatokites that would be receiving this food, right? Maybe these recipes weren't really that well known and it was just tradition that carried these grew. Okay.

[00:35:22] And at some point they chained, you know what I mean? Like maybe he's just used to doing this. So he's just writing down what he knows the position to be. Okay. And so, you know, therefore that's what it is.

[00:35:32] All right. But you get the wrong one regardless because I would have chosen the older one. So you're always wrong. It's about how what you would choose my game. It's my game. Yep. I'm the one that prepares this. It's my game. Yeah.

[00:35:47] I sing to you that you are wrong. Okay. Number nine. Is it always wrong to steal? No. No. Explain to me why? Because sometimes you might be starving to death and you need something to eat for your

[00:36:00] family and if you're not doing any harm to someone then what is it's not to me that's a victimless crime. Yeah. And if you're doing it for the right reasons, there are there are times when it could make sure. Morely okay even if it's against the law. Yes.

[00:36:19] Sure. I agree with that. We're not wrong on that. Right. Take time with a wounded hand because it likes to steal. Right. And it likes to heal. Sure. Okay. So you're right. No. It is not always wrong to steal.

[00:36:37] In Genesis Rachel had stolen the images that were her father's member and then. Yeah. Because it was good to take. Yeah. Right. The idols, right? The idols, right? Yes. And then in Exodus says,

[00:36:51] And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses and they borrowed of the Egyptians and they spoiled the Egyptians. So they stole all their shit when they left remember on their way out the door. They're like, and I'll take that byee. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.

[00:37:08] And then in Ezekiel it says, Israel should go forth and spoil those that spoiled them and rob those that robbed them. Say if the Lord God. So Rachel will literally tell him to go steal. Yes. That's funny.

[00:37:22] He's like, and go be just as vindictive to those guys as I would be. Right. Yeah. Never in the past. Especially considering that that's one of the commandments.

[00:37:31] You know, like, of exactly of the ten commandments only of which like four of them are relevant that are not based on what you're supposed to do with regard to acting around God. Mm-hmm. Four of them are actual like laws and that's one of them.

[00:37:43] And he's like telling them to break that law. But he uses the word spoil instead of steel. And so that's how he gets around it. And that's how Christians would apologize for it. I guess. It doesn't count if you hate them and you're like.

[00:37:56] You're killing the whole city for being bad guys. Right. Then it's just spoiling and that's not the same. Okay. All right. You go ahead and think that. Right. Okay, but guess what? I'm wrong. You're always wrong. Yep. It's always wrong to steal. Yeah.

[00:38:14] In Exodus, it says thou shalt not steal. Obviously. In Leviticus says ye shall not steal. Right. And then due to Ronomy, it says neither shall thou steal. Okay. So according to the Pentatuch, it's very bad. Don't do it ever. Unless God tells you to, then it's okay.

[00:38:32] But not even to feed your child. Right. Yeah. Don't do it. Right. Number. Ooh. What number are we on? I didn't write that down. Number 10. Yeah. This is number 10. Right. All right. It's death final. Yes. And it's from my perspective. Yeah.

[00:38:52] I'm going the way of all the earth, which means dead done. Okay. So Joshua agrees with you. Sure. Job, which is more writing than actual like character. Like it's a story, not history even though it's written with the prophets. Yeah.

[00:39:10] In the Christian Bible says as the cloud is consumed and vanishes away, so he that go with down to the grave, shall come up no more. Okay. So he's like when you're done, you're done. Right. And then in Isaiah it says they are dead. They shall not live.

[00:39:25] They are deceased. They shall not rise. Yeah. Well, I hear these words that you're telling me that are from the Bible. I tend to think that even as they were stating these statements that they only applied

[00:39:39] to those they didn't see as righteous to to some extent because Joshua was talking about himself. I am going the way of all the earth. No. You're right. I still feel like there was some sense that there was some sort of an afterlife with

[00:39:55] most of these people and maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong. But like it seemed to allude to it quite a bit. I think that the only type of afterlife that they thought might exist would be the punishing

[00:40:07] one, not the end you get the prize and go to heaven. Okay. So your questions were, your choices were rest peacefully forever more. Right. And then you can be dead and done or be punished for eternity. Okay. Right. Like that's my understanding.

[00:40:25] And then Christians were like just kidding, there's a third choice. Right. And then Catholics were like, and there's waiting rooms. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know about all that. But anyway, you're always wrong. Of course. Because no, no, no, no, that is not final. Okay.

[00:40:44] There's all kinds of afterlife. Okay. And Isaiah says, they dead men shall live together with my dead body. Shall they arise awake and seeing who do not let dead bodies sing? There's a lot of dead people that come back to life in the Bible. Yeah.

[00:41:00] He that dwell in dust for thy do is as the dew of herbs and the earth shall cast out the dead. Okay. Yeah. And then in a zeke, you'll understand this. Yeah. Because we would like zombies. Right. That's why strong zombie scene. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:17] This was in the valley of the dry bones. Right. That gave me nightmares. The safe, the Lord God. Behold, though, my people, I will open your fucking graves and cause you to come up out of your fucking graves and bring you into the land of Israel.

[00:41:35] Absolutely not, sir. Now again, that one specifically I remember we could be just read it. It was more of the idea of bringing them back from captivity. And it was, they were just using the imagery to portray that idea, which okay. But it still reads like zombie apocalypse.

[00:41:56] Yeah. You're not okay with that. Not okay with that. And for a final question, it's less a question and more an observation. Okay. The 12 tribes of Israel, could you possibly name them? Oh. No, but I'm going to give it a shot here. Okay.

[00:42:16] So I'm going to mark them as you go with it again. Tell you which ones you miss. Sure. Okay. Obviously my favorite is Dan. Dan the man. Dan. Okay. Let's see. We got Judah. Okay. We got Benjamin. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. Minasa. Okay. We got Gad.

[00:42:41] That's one of them right? Yeah. Yeah. I just got to find it. Yes. You saw. Is one on? I think. No. No. That's not one on the ship. I don't know why I was thinking that that's somebody that was in the Bible, though. Yes.

[00:42:56] There is one that's close to that name. He's always Jacob's brother. Yeah. He was the one that wrestled God in the desert or something like that. Something like that. Let's see here. Okay. I'm thinking about who are the priests. The priests. The priests. Who are the priests?

[00:43:13] The Levites? Yes. Okay. But they don't. Levite? Levite? Yes. Oh. Wait a second. Okay. So there was a tribe of Levite when, okay. That's okay. All right. We'll talk about a minute. Yeah. Think about the Sandwich. Oh, Ruben. Ruben. Yeah. I'm just giving you clues. Yeah. No.

[00:43:42] I appreciate it. But the fact that you know who I'm talking about. That's not trying to trick you. Yeah. You know what I mean? No. I think I'm kind of at my wit's end with regards to the rest of them. Because I don't remember.

[00:43:52] But you know some of these. Okay. I know I know that might as well be the main thing about the guy that was. It's a car. I know I knew that one. Yeah, I would not have assumed that. Right. But I just came to me.

[00:44:05] I was, you know, inspiration. So think about the guy. Remember Jacob had like all these sons, right? All these are his sons. Yeah. Right. And one of his sons, all the other brothers were jealous of because this Jacob. No, Jacob's the father. Oh yeah. Right.

[00:44:23] It does start with a J. Yeah. No. Let's see. And you had a coat, right? Yes. The drink coat. Yeah. That's you. And he went to Egypt and became Pharaoh's dude. Right. Yeah. I just named. I don't remember. Think of one of my exes. Oh, my god.

[00:44:41] Come on. Come on. You got this. Oh my gosh. I don't. Joseph. Joseph. Thank you. Okay. I was trying really hard. Yeah. No. I appreciate it. Okay. Yeah. Who was the other one? I don't remember. Ephraim. Ephraim. Yeah.

[00:45:05] That's the one that you were thinking of when you said E.S. Right. Let's see if there's any other that I think you might know. Probably not because you would not. Very. These are them. Yeah. You wouldn't guess these. Right. Simon is one. Okay.

[00:45:22] You wouldn't have guessed that. No. I would. So, Richard is a song by corner shop. So, yeah. Is that you long? Is that you long? That was the name you liked. Yeah. Okay. And Nephtolly. Nephtolly. All right. So you would not have guessed those before. No.

[00:45:39] I probably would not have. Now. How many did we name? 13. Actually 14. Really. Okay. So. Wait. 14. Yeah. 14. Okay. Because. So, if. Is the actual dude that's on the list of 12. Oh. But if you take him out of the equation and replace him with his two sons. Ephraim and Manasa.

[00:46:06] Yeah. Those two. So that makes. 14. Or that makes 12. Okay. All right. And on some lists. Levi has left out because they're the priests. Right. So. That is very interesting because remember.

[00:46:26] We were talking about at the end of a Zeekeel how the Levites get a gate on this new thing. Right. Right. There are not really a tribe but they kind of are a tribe. Right. So whereas Ephraim was a. It was a. The two sons of. From in.

[00:46:45] Manasa. Yeah. They get combined into one gate for Joseph. Exactly. And even 12. Got it. Yeah. Something that's really interesting is that on top of Levi being left out. And these tribes are listed in several different places.

[00:47:02] In most of them, they most of the places throughout the Old Testament. What we just said. The math math. Got it. Right. So you know whether you're including Levi or not or whether you're using Joseph or his two sons or sometimes Joseph. That's right. And it's always 12. Right.

[00:47:22] But in some places Levi is not mentioned at all. Right. And then let's see. What it sounds to me like in in Zeekeel especially like the Zatakites are becoming their own thing too. Yeah.

[00:47:38] So like we might add another one at some point if we continue done that road. Yeah. I have no idea how that's like how we can talk about tribes eventually maybe they'd be their own. Yeah.

[00:47:47] Sounds like they it sounds like they took over the role of the Levi which is kind of gross. I'm like stop. Yeah. It was again politics. I like yeah. It's just unlike the Levi's have been in charge of the fucking arc forever and they were listed

[00:48:04] in the Bible as the dudes that can carry it only they can touch it. Who's to the fuck do you think you are my good sir? Right. But then the arc kind of disappeared and then we got into some other shit and then

[00:48:16] I think it was in actually Jeremiah where they were like well the Levi's kind of fell apart. We're going to re-apportion how they you know, how they we're just going to assign people to be Levi's right. And then and then Zeekeel specifically is like yeah just the Zatakites.

[00:48:34] It says the Zatakites are the most special so. Yeah. And there was some of people with shit are to the Levi's or whatever. But it's interesting that they just kind of disappear a tribe from responsible responsibility. Yeah. So it is very interesting. Interesting.

[00:48:52] In the book of Revelation which we have not reached yet obviously. Right. Dan is missing from the list. Oh. Even though he's on all the other one man. Dan, Dan is the man. In dooderonomy, Simon is missing from the list one time. Huh. Interesting. And that's it. Yeah.

[00:49:12] So I just they can get their tribes right. Yeah. So whereas that's not a contradiction or no where is that's not a year always wrong. That is a contradiction in another cell sure. Sure.

[00:49:26] Just not always referred to the same way in the fact that they constantly talk about the 12 tribes. And we can't even agree on what the 12 tribes are. Right. It's problematic. Exactly. Yeah. Okay.

[00:49:39] So I think that mostly everybody agrees that in place of Joseph you use his sons and you take the leave lights out and then the rest makes that 12. I think that's what makes the most sense to me.

[00:49:52] That makes the most sense to me as well, but that's not what's on the temple. Right. Right. So maybe we're wrong. But doing it that way does include all of the names by explaining how you reach that conclusion. Sure. There's still in the definition.

[00:50:10] So it's the most accurate probably that's that's the way I feel sure so that's the way I would refer to them if I was going to which I'm not because I can't remember that

[00:50:19] shit right right well, do we have any other contradictions today or was that that the end of them that was the end of them all right. I mean I probably I'm sure there was some other one that you didn't know but you know just basic stuff.

[00:50:33] Yeah there was a couple of there was a couple of how many of this in that and like fuck that I don't remember. Right. There was a couple of who said blah blah or who's related to do do. Right. Fuck you. I don't know. Yeah.

[00:50:49] So like if I don't have a good shot of answering it or I think it's a stupid trivial contradiction, I ain't going to say it. Got it got it. All right. Well that is our contradictions episode for Azikil which means that we are not going to be

[00:51:01] just means that we are fucking done. Bye. That is it. No, Azikil. Easy Kyle be done. All right. That being said I'm going to hit the weekly wrap up out here shortly and we will be back on Monday with Daniel chapter one. All right. We'll see you then.

[00:51:19] Bye.