Amos Chapter 2: Bible Study by Atheists

Amos Chapter 2: Bible Study by Atheists

Welcome back to another episode of Sacrilegious Discourse, where Husband and Wife continue their exploration of the Book of Amos, diving into Chapter 2. Known for its intense and unyielding portrayal of divine judgment, this chapter doesn't hold back on the fire and brimstone.


Here's what we're unpacking:


1. Moab's Downfall: We delve into the judgment pronounced on Moab for their sins, where God promises fire and destruction, leaving no room for mercy.

2. Judah Under Fire: The wrath turns toward Judah for rejecting God's laws and being led astray by false gods, showcasing a relentless divine anger.

3. Israel's Transgressions: Israel isn't spared either, as God condemns them for selling the innocent and oppressing the poor, with a relentless pursuit of punishment.

4. Hypocrisy and Irony: We critically analyze the hypocrisy of divine judgment, where God condemns actions similar to those He has condoned in the past.


Join us as we navigate the intense narrative of Amos Chapter 2, with our signature blend of humor and skepticism. Whether you're here for the biblical critique or just some engaging discussion, this episode promises to be thought-provoking.


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[00:00:00] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse.

[00:00:01] For this is what the Sovereign Lord says!

[00:00:03] Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want?

[00:00:07] If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done, then you can justify any of your behavior.

[00:00:14] A lot of this mentality is trickling into what is now mainstream right-wing Christianity.

[00:00:21] I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible.

[00:00:26] This is a Bible that they tell kids. This is the good Lord. This is the good book.

[00:00:32] He is fantasizing about murder, mass murder.

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[00:00:48] Wife!

[00:00:49] Do you remember what happened yesterday?

[00:00:52] Well, we read the first chapter of Amos.

[00:00:55] We did.

[00:00:56] Yeah, and in that chapter, God was a murderous dickhead.

[00:01:01] That tracks?

[00:01:02] Yeah.

[00:01:03] Sounds about right.

[00:01:04] And he was mad at a lot of people like the Philistines and lots of people.

[00:01:09] Whatever.

[00:01:10] Tires.

[00:01:10] Tires.

[00:01:12] Ammonites.

[00:01:13] Tires.

[00:01:13] Yeah, and it was mostly for doing shit that God's done in the past in the Bible.

[00:01:18] Yeah.

[00:01:18] So I found it quite hypocritical.

[00:01:22] As usual.

[00:01:23] And overly mean.

[00:01:25] Yes.

[00:01:26] That was my takeaway.

[00:01:27] Well, I mean, it said in the intro, when I was telling you what this book is about,

[00:01:32] that this is one of the more violent and vitriolic, heated books of the Bible.

[00:01:38] Yeah, and it lived up to its end of the bargain there.

[00:01:42] It's only nine chapters.

[00:01:43] Right?

[00:01:44] Yeah.

[00:01:45] I mean, well, Joel is only three chapters.

[00:01:47] Right.

[00:01:47] So, you know.

[00:01:48] Yeah.

[00:01:48] But this one's like, he's a mean son of a bitch.

[00:01:51] Right.

[00:01:52] Don't like.

[00:01:52] No, I don't either.

[00:01:54] So that was Amos chapter one.

[00:01:56] Sure as fuck was.

[00:01:57] Which means that today we're getting into...

[00:02:00] Amos chapter two.

[00:02:01] Let's do this.

[00:02:02] Okie dokie.

[00:02:09] Alrighty doodle.

[00:02:10] We are going to hop into this second chapter of Amos.

[00:02:13] Alright.

[00:02:15] This is what the Sovereign Lord says.

[00:02:17] Is it now?

[00:02:18] Mm-hmm.

[00:02:19] For three sins of Moab, even for four, I'll not relent.

[00:02:24] Even for four.

[00:02:25] Even for four.

[00:02:26] Not even for that fourth one.

[00:02:27] Yeah.

[00:02:28] And five is right out.

[00:02:29] Okay.

[00:02:30] Yeah.

[00:02:31] Because he burned to ashes the bones of Edom's king, I will send fire on Moab.

[00:02:38] Fuck those guys that will consume the fortresses of Kerioth.

[00:02:42] Huh.

[00:02:43] Moab will go down in great tumult amid war cries and the blast of the trumpet.

[00:02:50] Oh, okay.

[00:02:51] So there's going to be a war.

[00:02:54] Mm-hmm.

[00:02:54] There's going to be a war.

[00:02:55] I'm going to get you.

[00:02:56] Yeah.

[00:02:56] Mm-hmm.

[00:02:57] I will destroy her ruler and kill all her officials with him, says the Lord.

[00:03:03] Yeah.

[00:03:04] This God.

[00:03:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:03:05] The God.

[00:03:06] That's, you know, the God.

[00:03:07] Yeah.

[00:03:08] Yeah.

[00:03:10] This is what the Lord says.

[00:03:12] Yeah.

[00:03:13] For three sins of Judah.

[00:03:15] Even for four.

[00:03:16] Even for four.

[00:03:17] Yeah.

[00:03:18] Yeah.

[00:03:18] I will not relent.

[00:03:19] Because they have rejected the law of the Lord and not kept his, you know, my decrees.

[00:03:26] Yeah.

[00:03:26] Because they have been led astray by false gods, those fuckers.

[00:03:31] The gods their ancestors followed.

[00:03:34] I will send fire on Judah that will consume the fortresses of Jerusalem.

[00:03:40] Wait, weren't we just destroying Moab and some, like, enemies and now we're destroying Judah?

[00:03:46] Yeah.

[00:03:47] Each chapter, do you remember in the intro?

[00:03:49] Yeah.

[00:03:49] Each chapter is getting closer to home.

[00:03:51] I got it.

[00:03:52] I got it.

[00:03:52] Yeah.

[00:03:52] Okay.

[00:03:53] Yeah.

[00:03:53] So, here we come.

[00:03:54] It's about to get on Israel now.

[00:03:56] Okay.

[00:03:58] This is what the Sovereign Lord says.

[00:04:00] Yeah.

[00:04:01] For three sins of Israel.

[00:04:03] Even for.

[00:04:04] Even for four.

[00:04:05] Yeah.

[00:04:05] I will not relent.

[00:04:07] He's not going to relent.

[00:04:09] He won't.

[00:04:09] This guy is not going to stop.

[00:04:10] He's going to keep going.

[00:04:11] This guy is relentless.

[00:04:12] He is going to kill these people really, really hardcore.

[00:04:15] Yeah.

[00:04:16] Because that's what God does.

[00:04:18] One time my sister and I went to see this movie and the train would not stop.

[00:04:24] It was like the train.

[00:04:26] It was one of those, like, speed.

[00:04:29] Like, remember the movie Speed?

[00:04:32] The one that was on a train though?

[00:04:33] Yeah.

[00:04:34] It was that one.

[00:04:35] That train didn't stop.

[00:04:36] No.

[00:04:37] And they kept talking about the train.

[00:04:39] And so finally, like, I think she and I and like maybe two other people were the only ones in the theater.

[00:04:45] And I go, the train, the train, the motherfucking train.

[00:04:50] The train won't stop.

[00:04:54] Because that that fucking train would not stop.

[00:04:56] It was relentless.

[00:04:58] Yeah.

[00:04:58] Just like this fucker.

[00:04:59] Yeah.

[00:05:00] It wouldn't have mattered if there was like three, even four roadblocks in its way.

[00:05:05] No.

[00:05:05] No.

[00:05:06] It would have just kept going.

[00:05:07] Yeah.

[00:05:08] Uh huh.

[00:05:09] They sell the innocent for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals.

[00:05:15] Damn.

[00:05:16] Those fuckers.

[00:05:17] They're like, um, would you take this kid?

[00:05:21] I gotta get some more shoes.

[00:05:22] I mean, I need some fucking sandals.

[00:05:25] If I throw in a change of clothes for the kid, could I get my nails did too?

[00:05:31] Right.

[00:05:32] Yeah.

[00:05:33] They trample on the heads of the poor as on the dust of the ground and denied justice to the oppressed.

[00:05:40] Father and son use the same girl.

[00:05:44] Ew.

[00:05:44] And so profane my holy name.

[00:05:48] They use the same girl.

[00:05:50] I got it.

[00:05:51] But there was a lot of that though in the Bible where they were, you know.

[00:05:54] But the way they phrase it, like, you know, I took some milk out of the fridge and poured myself.

[00:06:01] Like I used a glass for the milk.

[00:06:04] I used a girl for the fucking.

[00:06:05] I used a cow for the getting the milk.

[00:06:09] Right.

[00:06:09] I used the stove for the cooking.

[00:06:12] And then I used the girl again for the fucking.

[00:06:14] It was rather callous and shallow.

[00:06:17] Right.

[00:06:17] You know, they use the same girl, you know, the way you do.

[00:06:20] Right.

[00:06:21] Yeah.

[00:06:21] You would think if you were railing against this as a God because it was wrong, you would phrase that differently.

[00:06:27] Right.

[00:06:27] In a different manner.

[00:06:29] Okay.

[00:06:29] So look.

[00:06:30] Okay.

[00:06:30] We're going to play act here.

[00:06:32] I'm God for a minute.

[00:06:33] Okay.

[00:06:33] Ready?

[00:06:34] Ready?

[00:06:34] So I'm God.

[00:06:36] And I'm not really mad that they use the same girl.

[00:06:40] I'm just mad that they did it in a different God's name.

[00:06:44] I mean, my people use the same girl all the time, but they know it's about the Yahweh.

[00:06:53] Right.

[00:06:53] You know, and they don't do the Asherah poles except for in the next chapter when I yell at them for doing the Asherah poles.

[00:07:01] Right.

[00:07:01] Okay.

[00:07:02] Yeah.

[00:07:03] I don't know if I was supposed to contribute or you just were monologuing as God there.

[00:07:07] Um, did you have anything to offer?

[00:07:09] I didn't really have anything to offer.

[00:07:10] Because honestly, like, that's what he sounds like to me.

[00:07:12] Sure.

[00:07:13] Yeah.

[00:07:13] Like, honestly.

[00:07:15] No, it's really bad.

[00:07:17] Like the things that we are, the problem is that we are talking about things that happen under his watch and that he condones oftentimes depending on the situation.

[00:07:27] Right.

[00:07:28] Right.

[00:07:28] Or at least overlooks.

[00:07:30] Yeah.

[00:07:31] And it just really depends on what is happening and what needs to happen according to this God and whatever.

[00:07:36] So, like, if you were writing a book, um, these things that only happen to move the plot forward, like, they would never fly.

[00:07:47] An editor would never let that pass.

[00:07:49] Right.

[00:07:49] Unless you were writing Fifty Shades of Grey or something drivel like that, which I shouldn't say that because, I mean, the author completed the novel and published it.

[00:08:01] Well, this is the Bible, right?

[00:08:03] It's been around for thousands of years and it's got so many followers, right?

[00:08:06] Like, there's so many people that follow this thing.

[00:08:08] But, like, you take a Star Trek fan and they're going to care way more about, like, correctness.

[00:08:15] Yeah.

[00:08:16] And holding to the same themes.

[00:08:18] Yes.

[00:08:19] Than what the Bible.

[00:08:20] Like, we're Star Trek fans and we're like, that's out of character.

[00:08:24] Why Sisko acting like that?

[00:08:26] Like, because we're watching Deep Space Nine right now, like, working our way through it.

[00:08:29] And we're like, why, why they write him like that this episode?

[00:08:33] That's not how that goes.

[00:08:35] Right.

[00:08:35] Or like, oh, Dex is dead?

[00:08:38] What the fuck?

[00:08:39] I didn't know that was coming because, you know, we never watched.

[00:08:41] Sure.

[00:08:42] Yeah.

[00:08:43] But I'm talking about more like, so like there's that, again, I'm going to, this is a deep cut on Star Trek, but like there's the, they covered this a while back where they're only allowed to go like four or five or something like that because it's going to destroy the fabric of the universe or something.

[00:08:58] Yeah, that was in Next Generation.

[00:09:00] Sure.

[00:09:00] And they brought it up.

[00:09:01] It was like a big deal.

[00:09:03] Right.

[00:09:03] But they don't hold to that.

[00:09:05] It never comes up again.

[00:09:06] Right.

[00:09:07] Not ever.

[00:09:08] Yeah.

[00:09:08] And I'm like, wait, wait, you guys can't do that.

[00:09:12] You can't go that fast because that's going to, you're going to ruin the universe.

[00:09:16] You have to only save that for emergencies.

[00:09:19] Right.

[00:09:19] If you do it at all.

[00:09:20] Yeah.

[00:09:21] It should be like the lead in the pipes, you know, illegal.

[00:09:25] Right.

[00:09:25] Yeah.

[00:09:26] Like, have you been hearing the reports that they're like, we should really make it illegal and make people replace the pipes in their houses?

[00:09:35] Right.

[00:09:36] And then the rest of America is like, wait, wait, wait.

[00:09:40] I thought we already made that law.

[00:09:43] And they're like, they're like, oh, I mean, we did it for like buildings, but not like houses, like Michigan.

[00:09:51] Right.

[00:09:52] Right.

[00:09:52] And then we're like, what?

[00:09:53] Wait.

[00:09:55] So we're just living with all this.

[00:09:57] Like, there's literally no safe amount of lead.

[00:10:00] Right.

[00:10:01] Like, not even.

[00:10:02] It's not like, well, if you just have a little bit, if you only go to work for it should be OK.

[00:10:09] No, no lead.

[00:10:10] No warp.

[00:10:12] Right.

[00:10:12] Right.

[00:10:12] Yeah.

[00:10:13] Anyways.

[00:10:14] So I'm just saying, though, that Star Trek, you know, fans are much more.

[00:10:18] They hold their the storyline.

[00:10:21] Yeah.

[00:10:22] To its word.

[00:10:23] Yeah.

[00:10:23] Like they get mad when things don't, you know, hold to what they say.

[00:10:27] Right.

[00:10:27] As do any fandom.

[00:10:30] Right.

[00:10:30] Any fandom holds its characters and plot lines accountable and says, writers, you failed us.

[00:10:37] Right.

[00:10:37] Or or they might say, oh, that happened during the writer's strike.

[00:10:43] So that tracks that that was a bad.

[00:10:46] And sometimes things happen in a series where they're like, no, we're going to disregard that because it doesn't fit with the rest of the overarching story.

[00:10:53] Right.

[00:10:53] So some things that happen fall outside of canon.

[00:10:57] Sure.

[00:10:57] But it's still known that they fall outside of canon.

[00:11:00] Right.

[00:11:00] You know, whereas in the Bible, canon is 2000 years worth of the same fucking literature.

[00:11:06] Yeah.

[00:11:06] And and it doesn't.

[00:11:08] They don't care.

[00:11:09] And the fans don't care.

[00:11:10] The fans don't care.

[00:11:10] And I'm like, why, why, why do I care more about your fandom than you do?

[00:11:16] Right.

[00:11:16] That makes no fucking sense.

[00:11:19] It's problematic.

[00:11:19] Y'all are the passionate ones.

[00:11:21] Right.

[00:11:22] The passion, you know, of the of the Christ.

[00:11:25] Right.

[00:11:25] Like, like y'all are the ones that are trying to convince me how awesome this is.

[00:11:30] Well, I'm I'm just reading it and I'm like, OK, tell me tell me when we get to the good bit where it all comes together.

[00:11:39] And then, you know, we're getting to the end of the Old Testament and it is not coming together.

[00:11:44] No, it's falling even further apart.

[00:11:46] I think it's the holes in the plot, you know, like the things that don't mesh up for me.

[00:11:52] And it's consistently all the way through because we've had we every episode, every every chapter.

[00:11:57] We've had something to say.

[00:11:59] Yeah.

[00:11:59] It's consistently inconsistent.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:02] And it's consistently hypocritical.

[00:12:05] Right.

[00:12:05] And it's consistently grotesque.

[00:12:09] Yes.

[00:12:09] And that is not any religion I want to be part of.

[00:12:14] Right.

[00:12:14] So.

[00:12:15] All right.

[00:12:15] I'm so sorry.

[00:12:16] Let's continue with chapter two.

[00:12:18] Yeah.

[00:12:18] So those fucks use the same girl.

[00:12:21] And so profane my holy name.

[00:12:24] Got it.

[00:12:25] They lie down beside every altar on garments taken in pledge.

[00:12:30] Oh, so when somebody is like bringing in like a sacrifice.

[00:12:35] Right.

[00:12:35] Yeah.

[00:12:35] They're like, oh, this is this is nice red.

[00:12:40] So let's lay down and fuck on it.

[00:12:42] Is that what they that's what they do?

[00:12:43] Yeah.

[00:12:44] That's I mean, they lie down beside every altar on garments taken in pledge.

[00:12:48] Got it.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:49] Okay.

[00:12:50] In the house of their God, they drink wine taken as fines.

[00:12:54] See that.

[00:12:55] That's what I'm saying.

[00:12:56] Like all this stuff that is coming in for a reason.

[00:13:00] They're like, and that is mine.

[00:13:02] And that is mine.

[00:13:03] Which is exactly what we were saying was happening from the get go.

[00:13:05] Because why that that's what was happening.

[00:13:08] Like, oh, are you mad that the grifty fucks are grifting?

[00:13:11] You're telling.

[00:13:12] I can't accept the fact that these people would take things from people as a sacrifice, quote unquote.

[00:13:19] And then just let it rot.

[00:13:21] Yeah.

[00:13:21] You know, like, no.

[00:13:22] No.

[00:13:22] Okay.

[00:13:23] So the first time that.

[00:13:25] Um.

[00:13:27] Okay.

[00:13:27] So my sister and my mom and I like briefly attended this.

[00:13:32] I want to say it was like a Methodist church.

[00:13:34] Yeah.

[00:13:35] San Antonio.

[00:13:36] And like they did communion.

[00:13:37] I didn't cause I have never like been into that.

[00:13:41] Like.

[00:13:42] Sure.

[00:13:42] Just creepy and weird to me.

[00:13:43] Yeah.

[00:13:44] Like I couldn't.

[00:13:44] Why would you want to eat the blood and, you know.

[00:13:47] And.

[00:13:47] And I'm like.

[00:13:48] Or drink the blood and eat the body of a dead person.

[00:13:51] I didn't want to pretend I was.

[00:13:52] Right.

[00:13:53] Yeah.

[00:13:53] It's just weird.

[00:13:54] Like I just, I couldn't grasp what it was.

[00:13:58] Sure.

[00:13:58] And I was in high school.

[00:13:58] So I wasn't like just, you know, this little kid that's like, I don't get it.

[00:14:02] Right.

[00:14:02] No.

[00:14:02] You're like, what are we doing?

[00:14:04] Yeah.

[00:14:04] No, I'm good, man.

[00:14:06] Yeah.

[00:14:06] So like, I don't know what this is, but it seems real cultish.

[00:14:09] Yeah.

[00:14:09] I just watched from afar.

[00:14:11] Right.

[00:14:11] And so, but my mom was friends with the pastor who was a lady, which was a big deal because

[00:14:19] not all religion, not all Christianity allows women to be leaders.

[00:14:24] Sure.

[00:14:25] So this is a big deal.

[00:14:26] So after the service is done, she's got like these leftover loaves of bread.

[00:14:34] And it was so like disconcerting, like a half hour ago, it was the body of Christ.

[00:14:41] But now it's just like, Hey, do you want to take this home?

[00:14:44] Otherwise I got to throw it away.

[00:14:46] You know what I mean?

[00:14:47] Like, but it was the body of Christ, but now is just Panera at the end of the night.

[00:14:55] Right.

[00:14:55] You know what I'm saying?

[00:14:56] Like what?

[00:14:58] That is a little, that's funny.

[00:15:01] Yeah.

[00:15:02] I couldn't.

[00:15:03] I was like, what are we going to do with this leftover Christ?

[00:15:06] Jesus.

[00:15:07] I hate it when we have all this Jesus laying around.

[00:15:11] We always have too much Christ.

[00:15:12] What the fuck?

[00:15:14] I'm like, buy less.

[00:15:17] Like better that you run out of body.

[00:15:19] Yeah.

[00:15:20] Right.

[00:15:20] I guess not.

[00:15:21] You got to have too much body.

[00:15:23] I just, I can't do communion.

[00:15:26] That's a whole different ball of weird.

[00:15:29] Right.

[00:15:29] Yeah.

[00:15:29] All right.

[00:15:30] So anyways, he's like grifty grifters are grifting and that pisses me off cause I'm God

[00:15:36] and only my people get to grift, but not really, but only sometimes on some Thursdays.

[00:15:42] Yeah.

[00:15:43] Yet I destroyed the Amorites before them though.

[00:15:47] They were tall as fuck.

[00:15:49] They were tall as the cedars and strong as the Oaks.

[00:15:52] Them giants.

[00:15:54] Remember the Amorites?

[00:15:55] Was that what they were?

[00:15:56] Yeah.

[00:15:56] Yeah.

[00:15:56] The Amorites and the Amalekites.

[00:15:59] I can't remember exactly which ones were the giants, but the Amorites sounds right.

[00:16:03] Yeah.

[00:16:03] But there was another one that started with a two and I want to say it was the Amalekites.

[00:16:07] I don't remember at this point.

[00:16:09] I could have it totally confused.

[00:16:10] Sure.

[00:16:11] I'm known to do that.

[00:16:12] It started with an A.

[00:16:14] Okay.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:15] So these fucks were tall and I just, I God destroyed them, but y'all still grifting and I'm pissed.

[00:16:22] Hmm.

[00:16:23] I destroyed their fruit above and their roots below.

[00:16:27] I burned up that plant.

[00:16:29] I brought you up out of fucking Egypt and led you 40 years in the wilderness to give you the land of the Amorites.

[00:16:38] He just did not let that lie.

[00:16:38] I know.

[00:16:39] He like strings attached forever.

[00:16:42] Right?

[00:16:42] Like, we can never forget about Egypt.

[00:16:45] Dude, it's been centuries at this point.

[00:16:47] Right.

[00:16:48] Like hundreds of fucking years and you're still bringing that up.

[00:16:51] Oh my God.

[00:16:52] And moreover, we discovered it never fucking happened, man.

[00:16:54] I know.

[00:16:55] I mean, most likely it never happened.

[00:16:57] Based on all of archeological evidence, it never fucking happened.

[00:17:01] Okay.

[00:17:01] But like, let's say you're like living in the, what is this?

[00:17:06] Like the negative 700s, right?

[00:17:09] Like the 700 and some odd BCEs.

[00:17:12] Yeah.

[00:17:12] Right.

[00:17:12] So, um, I know it's not negative, but like, like I'm seeing it on a timeline.

[00:17:19] And so the BCEs are the negative numbers.

[00:17:22] Right.

[00:17:22] So, okay.

[00:17:23] You're walking around and fucking negative 700 and some BCE.

[00:17:28] Right.

[00:17:28] Sure.

[00:17:28] And you're like talking to God.

[00:17:32] Right.

[00:17:32] And God's like, I brought you guys out of Egypt.

[00:17:35] And, and he's like, that was so long.

[00:17:38] Like we're negative 700, but that was like negative 5,000.

[00:17:43] Like, or whatever.

[00:17:45] Yeah.

[00:17:45] You know, like God.

[00:17:47] That would be like, that would be like if Thomas Jefferson were our God.

[00:17:50] And he was like, I brought you out of Appalachia.

[00:17:52] Like what?

[00:17:53] And I'm like, what?

[00:17:54] Thanks for the Louisiana purchase, man.

[00:17:56] But fuck off.

[00:17:57] Right?

[00:17:58] I mean, like Lewis and Clark, right?

[00:18:02] Like what even?

[00:18:03] Yeah.

[00:18:04] Weren't Lewis and Clark the guys?

[00:18:06] They were the ones that they stored.

[00:18:06] They were the surveyors, right?

[00:18:08] Yes.

[00:18:08] Okay.

[00:18:09] I was just making sure.

[00:18:10] I think it was Sacagawea.

[00:18:11] Yeah.

[00:18:12] And, and, and they raped her a lot.

[00:18:15] That was my understanding.

[00:18:16] Yes.

[00:18:17] Not good.

[00:18:18] No, but she's got a coin now.

[00:18:20] So, I mean, I guess.

[00:18:20] I guess that evened up.

[00:18:22] Yeah.

[00:18:22] Right.

[00:18:23] Yeah.

[00:18:23] Okay.

[00:18:24] Um, yeah.

[00:18:25] So it would be like if those surveyors were like, we surveyed the land, we led you across

[00:18:31] the rest of the United States of the Americas.

[00:18:35] Right.

[00:18:35] And like you said.

[00:18:37] Right.

[00:18:39] Yeah.

[00:18:39] I know.

[00:18:40] I just, I really wanted to like tie it together.

[00:18:42] Like, wait, that was those guys, right?

[00:18:44] Yes.

[00:18:45] Okay.

[00:18:45] So yeah.

[00:18:46] And we would be like, yes.

[00:18:49] And thank you for that centuries ago, sir.

[00:18:52] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:52] Um, you raped people though.

[00:18:55] So.

[00:18:55] But it's not even fucking relevant 200 and 300 years later.

[00:18:59] Right.

[00:18:59] Much less, much less hundreds and thousands of years later.

[00:19:02] Right.

[00:19:02] Like.

[00:19:03] Yeah.

[00:19:03] Get over yourself, my guy.

[00:19:05] Right.

[00:19:05] You know what?

[00:19:07] God needs to go fuck in a share a poll.

[00:19:09] That's what.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:11] He is just salty cause his wife done left him.

[00:19:16] They wrote her out of the picture.

[00:19:18] Right.

[00:19:18] Right.

[00:19:19] I also raised up the prophets from among your children and Nazarites from among your youths.

[00:19:25] Is this not true people of Israel?

[00:19:28] Well, to be fair, when he was reading this, the Nazarites, they were a thing that was early

[00:19:33] on in the Bible.

[00:19:34] We never heard about them after that ever again.

[00:19:35] Right.

[00:19:36] So it's funny that he says that because it's like, yeah, I guess according to the early

[00:19:42] Bible, that's true, but it kind of got left to the side.

[00:19:46] But then we start hearing about the Nazarites again because.

[00:19:48] Because of the prophets though.

[00:19:50] No.

[00:19:50] Yeah.

[00:19:50] But what I'm saying is in the new Testament, we're going to hear about the Nazarites because

[00:19:54] Jesus is of Nazareth, you know, Jesus of Nazareth.

[00:19:57] Oh, okay.

[00:19:58] Okay.

[00:19:59] So we'll hear about them.

[00:20:00] Okay.

[00:20:00] So it's still something they probably talked about back then, but it lost favor for a while

[00:20:05] or something.

[00:20:05] I guess.

[00:20:06] I don't know.

[00:20:06] I mean, who knows?

[00:20:08] We didn't talk about the Nazarites for a long time in the Bible.

[00:20:12] Yeah.

[00:20:13] And they were kind of important at one point.

[00:20:15] I thought.

[00:20:16] I mean, not as important as the Levites, I guess, but still.

[00:20:19] But even they kind of disappeared into oblivion for a bit.

[00:20:23] And it's like, it was a birthright and then it was just a club.

[00:20:27] Right.

[00:20:27] Yeah.

[00:20:28] Well.

[00:20:29] That's what I'm saying.

[00:20:30] There's no consistency.

[00:20:31] None.

[00:20:31] None.

[00:20:32] But you, continues the God he's declaring all this shit.

[00:20:36] But you made the Nazarites drink wine.

[00:20:39] Oh, remember that?

[00:20:40] And commanded the prophets not to prophecy.

[00:20:43] Hmm.

[00:20:44] But that was God tempting them.

[00:20:48] Remember?

[00:20:49] No, they didn't.

[00:20:49] That was another group.

[00:20:51] That was not the Nazarites.

[00:20:51] Not the Nazarites?

[00:20:53] Oh.

[00:20:53] That was some tribe that lived out in the.

[00:20:55] They were non-drinkers.

[00:20:55] I can't remember the name of the tribe, but it was not the Nazarites.

[00:20:58] No?

[00:20:58] Okay.

[00:20:59] Well, I really wanted it to be them because they were the non-drinkers.

[00:21:02] Yeah.

[00:21:02] And besides, it wasn't God tempting them.

[00:21:04] It was, I think that was Isaiah.

[00:21:06] Oh, yeah.

[00:21:07] That was bringing them in.

[00:21:08] And having them.

[00:21:09] He's like, watch, watch.

[00:21:09] Yeah.

[00:21:10] For the other people to show how well they held their.

[00:21:13] He's like, watch.

[00:21:14] They're not even going to fucking drink.

[00:21:15] Watch.

[00:21:16] Right.

[00:21:16] Yeah.

[00:21:16] Hey, want a beer?

[00:21:18] Right.

[00:21:18] Hey, hey, I got some good wine over here.

[00:21:22] No?

[00:21:23] Are you sure?

[00:21:23] I won't tell.

[00:21:24] But no, that was not the Nazarites.

[00:21:26] All right.

[00:21:26] Well, it could have been though.

[00:21:28] It couldn't have been because it wasn't.

[00:21:30] No.

[00:21:31] No, I mean, it might as well have been though.

[00:21:34] For all I care.

[00:21:34] Oh.

[00:21:35] Okay.

[00:21:35] Is what I mean.

[00:21:36] I see.

[00:21:36] Yeah.

[00:21:37] Now then, continues God.

[00:21:40] Yeah.

[00:21:40] I will crush you as a fucking cart crushes when loaded with grain.

[00:21:46] Hmm.

[00:21:46] You know, when you put too much shit in your car and it weighs down and the axle falls off

[00:21:51] the back.

[00:21:52] That's what I'm going to do to you, said God.

[00:21:54] Okay.

[00:21:55] Really?

[00:21:56] Well, that's, that's oddly specific.

[00:21:58] It really is.

[00:21:59] It's very strange and weird.

[00:22:01] Yeah.

[00:22:02] Like, can I?

[00:22:04] I, I, I, I, I'm, so you just, you're like what load rocks up on me or what's, what's

[00:22:09] happening?

[00:22:09] What's in the trunk?

[00:22:11] I don't, I don't understand exactly what he's planning on doing here.

[00:22:14] Bull on you because I'm riding on a moped.

[00:22:17] Boom.

[00:22:19] The swift will not escape.

[00:22:21] The strong will not muster their strength and the warrior will not save his life.

[00:22:27] Okay.

[00:22:28] Except for if he's Worf, Worf is a warrior, but he is not a merry man, but he will always

[00:22:36] be a warrior and save somebody's life.

[00:22:40] Yes.

[00:22:41] I, okay.

[00:22:42] I'm looking at wife very questioningly right now.

[00:22:45] Yeah.

[00:22:45] Mark your bingo board.

[00:22:47] If you just heard him roll his eyes at me.

[00:22:49] Because, okay, look, it says the warrior will not save his life.

[00:22:52] And all I could imagine is like Worf going the hell you say.

[00:22:56] Okay.

[00:22:56] You know?

[00:22:57] Yeah.

[00:22:57] Well, no, I just, I guess I was kind of, we talk about Star Trek sometimes.

[00:23:01] I know.

[00:23:02] And we did already in this episode.

[00:23:03] Yeah.

[00:23:04] But that was like to, to assume that everybody knows the, how to relate Worf to the Bible.

[00:23:10] Okay.

[00:23:11] I know that we're separate.

[00:23:12] I know that we're almost done.

[00:23:13] There's like two sentences.

[00:23:14] Yeah.

[00:23:14] Sure.

[00:23:14] I got to say something Star Trek related, actually totally off topic.

[00:23:19] Oh, okay.

[00:23:19] Okay.

[00:23:19] So we are on the last episode or I'm sorry, the last season of Deep Space Nine.

[00:23:27] I believe.

[00:23:27] Yeah.

[00:23:27] Yeah.

[00:23:28] So we did not know that Jadzia dies.

[00:23:33] No, we did not.

[00:23:34] And so we've.

[00:23:35] Spoiler, post spoiler alert.

[00:23:37] I mean, honestly, like a show that old, can it be spoiled?

[00:23:42] I mean, it could.

[00:23:43] Maybe there's people like, you know, watching it right now and they've never, much like us,

[00:23:47] never saw the end of Deep Space Nine.

[00:23:49] Well.

[00:23:49] You never know.

[00:23:51] So.

[00:23:52] We just spoiled it for somebody.

[00:23:53] Okay.

[00:23:54] Bruce Willis was a ghost the whole time.

[00:23:57] Jeez.

[00:23:57] So anyway, I just, I like, we didn't pause it and like talk about it.

[00:24:04] Right.

[00:24:05] But it was, it was very shocking because we just assumed, oh, this is Star Trek, they'll

[00:24:09] bring her back, whatever.

[00:24:10] Yeah.

[00:24:10] They kind of did, but not really.

[00:24:12] They, oh yeah.

[00:24:13] Right, right, right, right.

[00:24:13] Like they brought the Dax.

[00:24:15] Yeah.

[00:24:15] Yeah.

[00:24:15] Symbion back in a different individual, but Jadzia is gone.

[00:24:21] Yes.

[00:24:21] And that was just like, what?

[00:24:23] Right.

[00:24:24] How dare.

[00:24:25] Like, I want to read the trivia and find out why, like what happened.

[00:24:29] Right.

[00:24:30] Did she like get a deal somewhere else?

[00:24:32] Did she just be like, I'm out.

[00:24:34] Was there sexual harassment involved?

[00:24:36] Were they like, bitch, we don't like you anymore.

[00:24:40] You're a diva and write her off.

[00:24:41] Like, I have no idea what happened.

[00:24:43] Nor do I.

[00:24:44] Huh.

[00:24:45] All right.

[00:24:45] Let's wrap this chapter up.

[00:24:47] Okay.

[00:24:47] Two sentences.

[00:24:48] Ready?

[00:24:48] Yeah.

[00:24:48] The archer, remember I just said the warrior won't be strong and the fasty guy won't be

[00:24:55] fast.

[00:24:55] Yeah.

[00:24:56] The archer will not stand his ground.

[00:24:58] The fleet footed soldier will not get away.

[00:25:01] And the horseman will not save his life.

[00:25:05] I see.

[00:25:06] Even the bravest warriors will flee naked on that day he declares the Lord the end.

[00:25:13] That was shocking.

[00:25:15] That was shocking.

[00:25:15] Why are they going to be naked?

[00:25:16] Because they're, they don't even have time.

[00:25:19] They're like, okay, so like you're supposed to have a bug out bag.

[00:25:22] Right.

[00:25:23] Okay.

[00:25:23] So like you grab it on the go.

[00:25:26] If there's an emergency, right?

[00:25:28] You have all your documents and, you know, change of underwear and toothbrush and you grab

[00:25:33] it and you go, right?

[00:25:34] Sure.

[00:25:34] Your bug out bag, right?

[00:25:35] Like these guys didn't even have a chance to like put on their undies.

[00:25:40] But what does it matter whether they were fleeing or not?

[00:25:42] Cause he's going to kill them all anyway.

[00:25:43] Like he, they said the Swift won't survive.

[00:25:45] Okay.

[00:25:46] Because won't survive.

[00:25:47] Let me ask you this.

[00:25:48] Even though we don't believe in an afterlife, right?

[00:25:51] Okay.

[00:25:51] But let me ask you this, your legacy.

[00:25:54] Okay.

[00:25:55] Would you rat you're about to be murdered?

[00:25:57] Uh huh.

[00:25:58] Okay.

[00:25:58] Would you rather be murdered while you're wearing clothes or while you're naked while

[00:26:04] I'm wearing clothes?

[00:26:05] Right.

[00:26:06] So that's, so this is just a humiliation.

[00:26:09] Yeah.

[00:26:09] Yeah.

[00:26:10] He's like, I'm going to murder you, but first I'm going to watch you run around naked

[00:26:14] got it in front of each other.

[00:26:16] Yeah.

[00:26:16] And, and I'm going to laugh at all your flopping willies.

[00:26:19] Literally like the kid that was frying ants.

[00:26:22] Yeah.

[00:26:22] You know?

[00:26:23] Yeah.

[00:26:23] He's just like, I'm going to torture and kill you all.

[00:26:25] Mm hmm.

[00:26:26] And, and I'm going to point and laugh.

[00:26:28] Right.

[00:26:28] Cause I'm God.

[00:26:29] Hear me roar.

[00:26:30] Yeah.

[00:26:31] Unless you beg for mercy and say you love me a lot.

[00:26:34] And I might not hear you.

[00:26:35] It just depends on my fucking mood and which way I'm looking.

[00:26:39] And if there's a, a tall tower on a different part of the planet, whatever.

[00:26:44] Right.

[00:26:45] Fuck that guy.

[00:26:46] Well, you got anything else for today?

[00:26:48] Today?

[00:26:48] No.

[00:26:49] Fuck this chapter.

[00:26:50] Fuck this book.

[00:26:51] Fuck this Bible.

[00:26:51] That was Amos chapter two.

[00:26:53] Sure as fuck was.

[00:26:54] And, uh, we will actually be back tomorrow with, uh, it's going to be a day off for most

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[00:27:34] Bye.

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