Amos Chapter 8: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:00:07] If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done, then you can justify any of your behavior.

[00:00:14] A lot of this mentality is trickling into what is now mainstream right-wing Christianity.

[00:00:20] I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible.

[00:00:26] This is a Bible that they tell kids.

[00:00:29] This is the good Lord. This is the good book.

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[00:00:48] Wife!

[00:00:49] Do you know where we are and how the hell we got here?

[00:00:53] Well, last time we read Amos. Amos.

[00:00:57] Yeah, Chapter 7.

[00:00:58] Yes, yes we did.

[00:00:59] And in that chapter, God tried to bring the locusts again.

[00:01:04] Yeah, he did.

[00:01:04] Amos was like, nah.

[00:01:06] And God was like, oh, alright.

[00:01:07] Yeah.

[00:01:08] And then God tried to bring fire.

[00:01:10] And Amos was like, nah.

[00:01:12] And God was like, alright.

[00:01:13] And then, and then God tried to bring a plumb line.

[00:01:17] And God was like, huh?

[00:01:19] You mean Amos?

[00:01:20] Yeah.

[00:01:20] I'm like, what?

[00:01:21] Plumb line?

[00:01:22] Anyway.

[00:01:22] No, what is it?

[00:01:23] Yeah.

[00:01:23] And then, and then.

[00:01:24] And then.

[00:01:37] And then.

[00:01:38] Amos was like, bitch, bye.

[00:01:40] And then.

[00:01:41] And then.

[00:01:53] And then.

[00:01:58] Um.

[00:01:59] It was like, it was a journal entry.

[00:02:00] They just shoved into the fucking Bible.

[00:02:02] And then.

[00:02:02] And then.

[00:02:02] And then all of a sudden.

[00:02:04] Amos was like, well, just so you know, your fucking bitch of a wife is going to be a whore.

[00:02:10] And your kids are going to die.

[00:02:11] And also you're going to die.

[00:02:13] So, okay, bye.

[00:02:14] Right.

[00:02:14] Sounds totally.

[00:02:15] Totally.

[00:02:16] Godly.

[00:02:17] And definitely.

[00:02:18] Not petty.

[00:02:18] Not at all petty.

[00:02:19] Yeah.

[00:02:20] And definitely how we speak to each other.

[00:02:22] Yeah.

[00:02:22] For sure.

[00:02:23] Yeah.

[00:02:23] Yeah.

[00:02:23] Yeah.

[00:02:24] So anyway, that was Amos chapter seven.

[00:02:26] Yes.

[00:02:27] Which means that today we're getting into.

[00:02:30] Amos chapter eight.

[00:02:31] All right.

[00:02:32] Let's do this.

[00:02:32] Okie dokie.

[00:02:38] Okay.

[00:02:39] Before we jump into this fruits basket episode.

[00:02:44] Okay.

[00:02:44] Okay.

[00:02:45] Which I'll explain that in a minute.

[00:02:46] Sure.

[00:02:47] When we were talking in the opening just now about how we don't actually say, hey,

[00:02:54] bye.

[00:02:55] And then the other one goes, oh, okay, well, you're going to die.

[00:02:58] Wait, what?

[00:02:59] Just now in the opening.

[00:03:00] Yeah.

[00:03:01] When Amos was like, bye, leave.

[00:03:04] And then Amos was like, no, by the way, your wife is going to die.

[00:03:09] So fuck off.

[00:03:10] Sure.

[00:03:11] Right?

[00:03:11] Yeah.

[00:03:11] Okay.

[00:03:11] Okay.

[00:03:12] So it reminded me of this time when a mutual friend on Facebook and I got a mutual friend

[00:03:22] of a friend.

[00:03:23] Right?

[00:03:23] Uh huh.

[00:03:23] Yeah.

[00:03:24] Um, me and this guy got into an argument.

[00:03:26] Right?

[00:03:27] Sure.

[00:03:27] And then the mutual friend was like, um, you guys stop arguing and oh no.

[00:03:33] And this is so, and don't.

[00:03:34] And I was like, I'm just trying to point out, like, he doesn't have to agree with me.

[00:03:39] I'm not, I'm not trying to back him into a corner here.

[00:03:41] I'm just voicing my opinion.

[00:03:42] Like, I feel like what he said was sexist and I laid out my reasons why, and I wasn't

[00:03:48] antagonistic.

[00:03:49] And he is like saying, no, it wasn't.

[00:03:51] And I'm like, I'm not here to argue if it was or wasn't.

[00:03:54] I'm here to tell you why I felt like it was to me.

[00:03:57] Right.

[00:03:58] And, and why other people might feel the same way.

[00:04:00] Yeah.

[00:04:00] Yeah.

[00:04:01] And then the dude goes die mad.

[00:04:06] And then like, I have never had somebody tell me that before.

[00:04:10] And I was so taken aback.

[00:04:12] I was just like, what?

[00:04:14] Right.

[00:04:14] Like that's so like over the top, like, oh my God.

[00:04:18] And then, and then the mutual friend, he goes, you know, I really wish you guys weren't

[00:04:24] arguing like this.

[00:04:25] I feel like you would be friends if you knew each other in real life.

[00:04:27] And all I could think was none of the friends that I have either in real life or on Facebook,

[00:04:34] to my knowledge, would say something so egregious even to somebody they hate.

[00:04:40] Right.

[00:04:41] Right.

[00:04:41] Die mad.

[00:04:42] Like that's the kind of shit that I expect from say hateful Christians or like Republicans

[00:04:51] that are like evangelical out there.

[00:04:54] Mega, you know, like those kinds of people.

[00:04:57] Right.

[00:04:57] Like I have a very specific image in my head of who might say something like that.

[00:05:03] Right.

[00:05:04] And my friends do not fall into that crowd.

[00:05:06] And I was just like, die mad.

[00:05:09] Wow.

[00:05:09] And that's like what Amos made me think of.

[00:05:13] Got it.

[00:05:14] He's like, die mad.

[00:05:16] And your wife, who's a whore and your kids.

[00:05:18] I just find it funny that the Bible gets so petty about shit.

[00:05:22] Yeah.

[00:05:23] Like, I mean, it makes, there's nothing that makes it so obvious that the Bible is written

[00:05:28] by man and created by man and not anything to do with God.

[00:05:33] Stapled together by man.

[00:05:33] Yeah.

[00:05:34] More so than the, um, the pettiness.

[00:05:37] Yeah.

[00:05:37] Some of the, some of the shit that they talk about.

[00:05:39] Yeah.

[00:05:39] It's so fucking small minded.

[00:05:41] And so just like, why would a God concern themselves with some of this shit?

[00:05:45] Yeah.

[00:05:46] Like it doesn't make any sense.

[00:05:47] Yeah.

[00:05:48] I, I, I can't understand why a God would care about just the small beans of everything.

[00:05:54] And, and, and if, and if they did, why would they no longer care about how the daily,

[00:06:00] you know, ins and outs of the world are taking place?

[00:06:04] Like, why is this God no longer present in these small things, but was back then?

[00:06:09] Yeah.

[00:06:10] Back then when it didn't really matter and now could like blow up the planet.

[00:06:15] Right.

[00:06:16] Like, I think you're doing it backwards.

[00:06:18] God.

[00:06:18] Yeah.

[00:06:19] Right.

[00:06:19] Plan is not ineffable.

[00:06:22] Yeah.

[00:06:22] It's very effable.

[00:06:24] Definitely.

[00:06:25] Definitely.

[00:06:25] All right.

[00:06:25] I'm so sorry.

[00:06:26] Let's read about fruit baskets.

[00:06:28] Yes.

[00:06:28] Or, um, there's a, a manga called fruits basket.

[00:06:32] Got it.

[00:06:33] And that's where I got that from anyway.

[00:06:35] Okay.

[00:06:35] So this, did you want to tell him why it's like, there's a, I saw that there's a, no,

[00:06:41] we're going to get into it.

[00:06:42] Okay.

[00:06:42] Okay.

[00:06:42] All right.

[00:06:44] And, and so we're going to do this.

[00:06:46] Got it.

[00:06:46] And this is another vision.

[00:06:48] Okay.

[00:06:48] Got it.

[00:06:48] Back to vision.

[00:06:49] Okay.

[00:06:50] So we had the pettiness out of, we got the, we got the locust and the fire and the plum

[00:06:54] lines out of the way.

[00:06:55] And then we got the pettiness out of the way where he's going to kill his wife.

[00:06:58] Chapter of the entry in the diary.

[00:07:00] Into a vision.

[00:07:01] And now vision.

[00:07:02] Okay.

[00:07:02] Yeah.

[00:07:02] Got it.

[00:07:02] Okay.

[00:07:03] Well, this is what the sovereign Lord showed me.

[00:07:06] He's showing him again.

[00:07:07] He's going to show me his bits again.

[00:07:09] Yeah.

[00:07:09] A basket of ripe fruit.

[00:07:11] Oh boy.

[00:07:12] He's showing me his fruit.

[00:07:13] I don't want to see his.

[00:07:15] I don't want to.

[00:07:15] Yeah.

[00:07:15] No, no.

[00:07:17] His nuts and berries.

[00:07:18] Right.

[00:07:19] What do you see, Amos?

[00:07:21] He asked.

[00:07:23] A basket of ripe fruit.

[00:07:25] I answered.

[00:07:26] Okay.

[00:07:26] You know, like I said.

[00:07:28] I mean, if it's, yeah.

[00:07:28] I saw some fruit and then God was like, what do you see?

[00:07:31] And I go fruit.

[00:07:32] Yeah.

[00:07:33] So silly.

[00:07:34] Okay.

[00:07:35] Then the Lord said to me, the time is ripe for my people Israel.

[00:07:39] Oh, that's clever.

[00:07:41] God.

[00:07:41] Oh my gosh.

[00:07:43] You are such a literary motherfucking genius.

[00:07:47] I will spare them no longer.

[00:07:50] Hmm.

[00:07:50] Yeah.

[00:07:51] I bet you won't.

[00:07:52] That strawberry done gone to sea.

[00:07:55] In that day.

[00:07:57] Yeah.

[00:07:58] Declares the sovereign Lord.

[00:08:00] During the days of the rotted banana Israelites.

[00:08:02] Which is only two days if you're lucky.

[00:08:06] Fucking bananas.

[00:08:07] The songs in the temple, says God, will turn to wailing.

[00:08:13] Oh.

[00:08:14] Okay.

[00:08:15] Okay.

[00:08:16] Yeah.

[00:08:16] Many, many bodies flung everywhere.

[00:08:21] Silence.

[00:08:22] I'm just, the imagery here is great.

[00:08:24] I love it.

[00:08:25] Like flung.

[00:08:26] I love that word.

[00:08:27] Flung everywhere.

[00:08:27] Flung is a great word.

[00:08:28] I flung it here.

[00:08:29] I flung it there.

[00:08:30] I flung it to and fro.

[00:08:32] Whoa.

[00:08:33] Here.

[00:08:33] Red fish.

[00:08:34] One fish, two fish.

[00:08:35] Red fish, blue fish.

[00:08:37] I'm not sure how that got there, but okay.

[00:08:39] This one has a little star.

[00:08:40] This one has a little car.

[00:08:41] My, how many, many fish there are.

[00:08:44] What?

[00:08:44] Many, many bodies flung everywhere.

[00:08:46] Oh, okay.

[00:08:48] Yeah.

[00:08:48] I would.

[00:08:48] Sorry.

[00:08:49] Sometimes I don't follow your, your brain.

[00:08:52] I think it just goes off on its own little tangents.

[00:08:55] My tism was showing.

[00:08:56] What are you doing?

[00:08:58] Sometimes.

[00:08:58] I don't see.

[00:08:59] Okay.

[00:08:59] So one of the things about autism that I've recently learned is that we see patterns

[00:09:05] that other people don't see.

[00:09:07] And so we make connections that they are connected, but are they though?

[00:09:13] But they are, but are they right?

[00:09:15] And they seem very clear and obvious, but then when asked to communicate them clearly

[00:09:21] to somebody else can't be done, can't be done because it's like, can't you just see it?

[00:09:28] Can't you just see it?

[00:09:29] Oh my God.

[00:09:30] What's wrong with you?

[00:09:31] Right.

[00:09:31] And is that not me to a T?

[00:09:33] Uh, yeah.

[00:09:34] Right.

[00:09:34] Like, cause I, I spend probably about 5% of the time on our podcast looking at you with

[00:09:39] a, what the fuck face, what the fuck face indeed.

[00:09:41] Yeah.

[00:09:42] Yeah.

[00:09:42] That is how you look at me.

[00:09:44] Um, which is why you really want to get a camera going.

[00:09:47] Yeah.

[00:09:48] I, I don't cause I'm not into that, but right.

[00:09:52] Yeah.

[00:09:52] It would probably be funny sometimes to watch back and see you just going, start seeing

[00:09:59] my head tilt and you know, like, what are you saying?

[00:10:04] And what's funny is that since there's no camera, I could just ignore you and keep going.

[00:10:08] It's true.

[00:10:09] And I do often do.

[00:10:10] Yeah.

[00:10:10] I always do.

[00:10:11] Right.

[00:10:12] That's what you meant by often.

[00:10:14] Okay.

[00:10:14] So anyways, now we're moving on to a different portion.

[00:10:17] Okay.

[00:10:17] Yeah.

[00:10:18] Here we go.

[00:10:18] Hear this, you who trample the needy and do away with the poor of the land saying,

[00:10:24] when will the new moon be over that we may sell grain and the Sabbath be ended that

[00:10:29] we may market wheat skimping on the measure, boosting the price and cheating with dishonest

[00:10:35] scales, buying the poor with silver and the needy with a pair of sandals selling even

[00:10:41] the sweepings with the wheat.

[00:10:43] Okay.

[00:10:44] Here's what all that means.

[00:10:45] Okay.

[00:10:45] In case you can't get it.

[00:10:46] All right.

[00:10:47] Okay.

[00:10:48] So he's saying y'all are such fuckers.

[00:10:51] I cannot even stand you because like with regard to the new moon and the Sabbath, like

[00:10:57] you're such money hungry assholes that you don't even take the time to actually celebrate

[00:11:05] the holiday for what it is.

[00:11:08] You're like, can we hurry up and open our store again now?

[00:11:11] Thank you.

[00:11:12] I need money.

[00:11:13] Right.

[00:11:14] Like it's all about that bottom line, you know?

[00:11:17] Sure.

[00:11:17] And so he's saying you're wrong.

[00:11:21] You shouldn't be doing that.

[00:11:22] Stop.

[00:11:22] Well, I agree for different reasons.

[00:11:25] Like I really don't like the idea.

[00:11:27] I don't like what's happened in the last, you know, 20 to 30 years where we no longer

[00:11:34] as people get holidays for from work.

[00:11:37] Right.

[00:11:37] Right.

[00:11:38] Either as consumers or as employees.

[00:11:42] Now, I know that most of those holidays were religiously based, you know, but that being

[00:11:48] said, it was still a day off.

[00:11:50] Right.

[00:11:51] You know, like it was still time to go spend time with your family.

[00:11:55] Right.

[00:11:55] And, and I feel like we're, we move.

[00:11:59] I agree with that sentiment.

[00:12:00] Like, you know, like generally speaking, the greedy, the, the rich, the powerful move towards

[00:12:06] a world where they cannot be open.

[00:12:08] They can't, they can't open their doors at their store long enough because, you know,

[00:12:12] that just means there's going to be less money for them.

[00:12:13] Which is so funny because yet they won't keep their Walmarts and Kroger's open 24 hours.

[00:12:20] Well, not, yeah, because they also have to pay a different shift of people and it's weighing

[00:12:25] it against how much they're making.

[00:12:27] But I'm like, oh, so you, you want it both ways.

[00:12:29] You make these people work on Christmas, but you won't let them work the fucking overnight

[00:12:34] shift.

[00:12:35] That was the worst thing that came out of COVID.

[00:12:37] You know, the fact that before COVID we had a bunch of 24 hour, you know, businesses,

[00:12:42] we had Starbucks, Walmarts and Kroger's that stayed open.

[00:12:45] McDonald's and Taco Bell.

[00:12:47] They stay there.

[00:12:47] Not just the drive through the lobbies.

[00:12:50] Sure.

[00:12:51] We're open 24 hours.

[00:12:53] And now nothing.

[00:12:53] Nothing.

[00:12:54] There's literally nothing open 24 hours in our area anymore.

[00:12:58] Particularly like if they have a drive through the drive through might be 24 hours, but the

[00:13:03] lobbies locked up and you can't tell until you go park and you try to walk in.

[00:13:08] And that's only McDonald's and that's only like two in the entire city.

[00:13:11] I think isn't, um, Taco Bell.

[00:13:13] Nope.

[00:13:14] No more.

[00:13:14] Oh, wow.

[00:13:15] Yeah.

[00:13:15] Not, not in this area.

[00:13:16] What are they like open?

[00:13:18] They close at 2am and open at five.

[00:13:20] So there's like a three hour window that you can't hit the drive through.

[00:13:23] I don't know.

[00:13:24] No, they don't open until like eight or nine, but are you serious?

[00:13:27] Yeah.

[00:13:28] Taco Bell.

[00:13:29] Yeah.

[00:13:29] That's insane.

[00:13:32] That's crazy.

[00:13:33] Okay.

[00:13:33] That's just Dayton, Ohio.

[00:13:35] I want to hear from the rest of you.

[00:13:36] Tell me what your Taco Bell hours are.

[00:13:39] Do you want to, you want to know Taco Bell hours?

[00:13:40] I do.

[00:13:41] I do.

[00:13:41] I want to know drive through versus lobby across the U S like I'm talking like East

[00:13:47] coast, West coast, South, Southwest.

[00:13:50] Like we got the Midwest taken care of.

[00:13:53] Tell us the rest of the country.

[00:13:55] Um, Hawaii, Alaska.

[00:13:56] I want to know about your Taco Bells.

[00:13:59] You don't have to do social media.

[00:14:01] I'm going to be the one fielding all these Taco Bell answers.

[00:14:03] I'm helping you.

[00:14:05] I'm helping you.

[00:14:08] Like I'm, I'm encouraging engagement.

[00:14:11] I see.

[00:14:11] I'm, this is your call to action.

[00:14:14] Ah, politics be damned.

[00:14:15] I want to know your Taco Bell situation.

[00:14:17] I also want to know if they know about the green sauce.

[00:14:19] What's the green sauce?

[00:14:21] See, see, no one knows about the green sauce.

[00:14:23] The green sauce is a sauce that they usually keep under the like hidden.

[00:14:27] Like they don't have, it's not part of the regular, um, thing.

[00:14:31] I don't think at least it didn't used to be.

[00:14:33] I think it was, was it, I, it might, I don't remember what it is.

[00:14:37] It's like a Verde sauce or something like that, but there's a, there's a green sauce

[00:14:41] packet.

[00:14:41] You can ask for it at Taco Bell.

[00:14:43] Is it like super hot and like more than fire?

[00:14:46] I don't remember.

[00:14:46] Honestly, there was a friend told me about it once.

[00:14:48] And then he's like, watch.

[00:14:50] And I'm like, okay.

[00:14:51] And then he's like, can I have the green sauce packet?

[00:14:53] And I'm like, oh, they got a green sauce packet.

[00:14:56] So next time we go to Taco Bell, which admittedly is not very often.

[00:15:00] Right.

[00:15:00] But next time we go, I need you to do that.

[00:15:03] I don't want to eat it.

[00:15:04] So you have to eat it.

[00:15:06] Cause I can't have hot stuff.

[00:15:08] Got it.

[00:15:08] It will burn my insides and then melt my butthole.

[00:15:13] That's how it'd be.

[00:15:14] Green sauce.

[00:15:15] I didn't even know that.

[00:15:16] Yeah.

[00:15:17] Yeah.

[00:15:17] No, I, it's a, it's a, oh, okay.

[00:15:19] So it's an avocado verde sauce.

[00:15:21] I might try it.

[00:15:22] Is it verde?

[00:15:23] Verde.

[00:15:23] Verde.

[00:15:23] It means hot.

[00:15:24] Verde salsa.

[00:15:25] So it's an avocado verde salsa.

[00:15:26] I would try it.

[00:15:27] Yeah.

[00:15:28] And so is this, but you got to ask for it.

[00:15:30] Cause it's not like, they don't keep it out for everybody.

[00:15:32] I would try it.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:34] I can't guarantee I'd eat it, but I would definitely try it.

[00:15:36] Sure.

[00:15:38] Anyway, that's enough about Taco Bell.

[00:15:40] Well, unless they want to sponsor us, then I'll go on for like another half hour.

[00:15:43] I know.

[00:15:43] Right.

[00:15:43] Yeah.

[00:15:43] Have you heard about the, what's it called?

[00:15:46] The waffle house, like emergency response quotient.

[00:15:54] Like you can tell how serious a natural or natural emergency is by whether or not the waffle houses in that area are open.

[00:16:05] Ah, yes.

[00:16:06] Have you heard about that?

[00:16:07] I have heard about that.

[00:16:08] Yes.

[00:16:09] And I have also heard that even, um, uh, like life giving services will use that to determine how serious, like a tornado or something coming in is.

[00:16:25] Right.

[00:16:25] Right.

[00:16:25] Like if, if those things are closed, you know, should be bad.

[00:16:28] Right.

[00:16:29] Yeah.

[00:16:29] Like, wow.

[00:16:31] Yep.

[00:16:31] All right.

[00:16:31] Enough about fast food now.

[00:16:33] Right.

[00:16:33] Yeah.

[00:16:34] Okay.

[00:16:34] So anyway, oh, and then, um, Amos was saying, so you fuckers that you can't open your doors fast enough and you know, you don't celebrate the holidays.

[00:16:44] You just try to get through them as fast as possible.

[00:16:46] Right.

[00:16:46] And then, so you skimp on the measure, boosting the price and cheating with dishonest scales.

[00:16:51] That's going back to that whole, um, if I'm buying something, I'll try to make it way as little as possible so I could get a good price.

[00:16:59] But if I'm selling something, I'm going to add weight to it.

[00:17:03] Yeah.

[00:17:03] Cheating so I get a good price.

[00:17:04] Right.

[00:17:04] And then when he says, sell even the, even the sweepings with the wheat, um, you're supposed to like donate any extras you have to the poor and needy.

[00:17:14] Right.

[00:17:14] They'll pick up whatever extras they have and resell it.

[00:17:17] Got it.

[00:17:18] So they're fuckers.

[00:17:19] Yeah.

[00:17:20] All right.

[00:17:20] Anyway, the Lord has sworn by himself, you know, like how you do, you know, oh, oh my me.

[00:17:29] Yeah.

[00:17:29] Yeah.

[00:17:30] The pride of Jacob, I will never forget anything they have done.

[00:17:35] Will not the land tremble for this and all who live in it mourn?

[00:17:40] The whole land will rise like the Nile.

[00:17:43] It will be stirred up and then sink like the river of Egypt.

[00:17:47] Hmm.

[00:17:48] In that day.

[00:17:50] Okay.

[00:17:51] Oh, did you have something to say about the Nile?

[00:17:52] No, I mean, I just, you know, no, not really.

[00:17:55] I read that it can, um, rise as high as 20 feet.

[00:17:58] The Nile?

[00:17:58] Yeah.

[00:17:59] Oh, okay.

[00:18:00] So it's a big deal when it does that.

[00:18:02] Got it.

[00:18:02] When it says the whole land will rise like the Nile.

[00:18:05] Yeah.

[00:18:05] He's saying, I'm about to drown y'all.

[00:18:07] Got it.

[00:18:08] Look out.

[00:18:08] Yeah.

[00:18:09] In that day, declares the sovereign Lord, I'll make the sun go down at noon and darken

[00:18:14] the earth and broad daylight.

[00:18:15] Sounds like an eclipse.

[00:18:16] So I'm not impressed.

[00:18:18] Or cloud cover.

[00:18:19] Right.

[00:18:19] Yeah.

[00:18:20] Yeah.

[00:18:20] Not impressed.

[00:18:21] No.

[00:18:22] I will turn your religious festivals into mourning and all your singing into weeping.

[00:18:29] I will make all of you wear sackcloth and shave your heads.

[00:18:34] I don't want to shave my head.

[00:18:36] I will make that time like mourning for an only sun and the end of it like a bitter

[00:18:42] day.

[00:18:44] Okay.

[00:18:45] This is a lot of, a lot more, more threats.

[00:18:48] Yeah.

[00:18:48] More, more.

[00:18:48] Everybody's going to be sad.

[00:18:50] You're going to be sorry.

[00:18:51] I'm going to, I'm going to fuck your shit up.

[00:18:53] Yeah.

[00:18:54] Yeah.

[00:18:54] I'll make you pay.

[00:18:56] Be scared.

[00:18:56] Oh, oh, I'll be Moriarty in the Cumberbatch version of Sherlock where he says, I'll make

[00:19:04] you burn.

[00:19:05] I'll burn the very heart out of you.

[00:19:08] I can't, I can't imagine being scared of, I guess.

[00:19:14] Okay.

[00:19:15] I've never been indoctrinated into religion, but it, it, it feels very difficult to be scared

[00:19:23] of something that I can't know.

[00:19:26] Like what, what is, I, I don't know.

[00:19:29] I guess, I guess I was, I had a fear of hurricanes.

[00:19:33] So like, I guess, I guess that is, I'm trying to, I'm trying to work it through my brain.

[00:19:37] Right.

[00:19:37] Okay.

[00:19:37] I don't really have a, I don't have a working knowledge of what it was like to be religious.

[00:19:44] So like, I'm trying to understand this fear that people have because of this God.

[00:19:49] It's constant.

[00:19:50] Right.

[00:19:50] Like you're constantly afraid.

[00:19:52] And I know it's real because I've talked to people who have the fear.

[00:19:55] Yeah.

[00:19:55] And what, what strikes me is that they're both always afraid and always smugly certain.

[00:20:03] Right.

[00:20:04] Like tied into one, like they're, they're so scared, you know, but at the same time they're,

[00:20:11] they know they're going to heaven and they know that you're going to hell and they know

[00:20:14] that their mama and daddy is going to be in heaven waiting for them with open arms.

[00:20:18] Right.

[00:20:19] They know it's a fact.

[00:20:21] Yeah.

[00:20:21] Like they're so sure, even as they're terrified, terrified.

[00:20:28] It's so weird.

[00:20:29] No, I, I don't get it.

[00:20:31] And I don't, I don't get it because, you know, we, we dropped Santa Claus and, you know,

[00:20:36] whatever grade in grade school, right?

[00:20:38] About age seven.

[00:20:39] Tooth fairy.

[00:20:40] We drop all those things that we grew up thinking were real at some point in our life.

[00:20:44] Right.

[00:20:45] Why not God?

[00:20:46] Why doesn't God disappear?

[00:20:48] Why doesn't God strike us as, yeah, that's really silly.

[00:20:52] Right.

[00:20:53] Yeah.

[00:20:53] And I know it does for a lot of people.

[00:20:55] I know a lot of people do end up saying, yeah, God is the, it's a silly concept.

[00:20:58] That's, that's kind of ridiculous.

[00:21:00] Right.

[00:21:00] You know?

[00:21:01] Right.

[00:21:01] But it takes people, especially if you've been indoctrinated into it, it takes people a really

[00:21:06] long time to come to that conclusion.

[00:21:07] Mm-hmm.

[00:21:08] And.

[00:21:09] Okay.

[00:21:10] Here's why.

[00:21:11] Because, uh, with regard to Santa Claus, right?

[00:21:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:21:14] Because you're like six or seven, maybe eight.

[00:21:18] Right.

[00:21:18] Okay.

[00:21:19] Yeah.

[00:21:19] Unless you're your cousin who believed well into her teens.

[00:21:22] Sure.

[00:21:23] Um, you go to school every day, right?

[00:21:26] And all of your friends around you are telling you Santa's not real.

[00:21:30] Santa's not real.

[00:21:31] Santa's not real.

[00:21:31] Right.

[00:21:32] Right.

[00:21:32] Yeah.

[00:21:32] That's your society, your peer group.

[00:21:34] You go home and your parents may or may not come clean with you, but eventually they

[00:21:41] do.

[00:21:42] That's how, because that doesn't happen with God.

[00:21:45] You don't go to school and have your whole peer group be like, God's not real.

[00:21:49] That's true.

[00:21:49] God's not real.

[00:21:49] No, you're right.

[00:21:50] They instead reinforce, oh yeah, of course God is real.

[00:21:53] Right.

[00:21:53] And you go home and your parents never disabuse you of that notion.

[00:21:58] Right.

[00:21:58] Right.

[00:21:59] So.

[00:21:59] No, that's true.

[00:22:00] That's why.

[00:22:01] Right.

[00:22:01] And yeah.

[00:22:02] Okay.

[00:22:03] I just, I struggle with that idea.

[00:22:06] That's all.

[00:22:07] What I think would be the better question is since so many of us are indoctrinated into

[00:22:14] this, who are the people who first were like, uh, you know what?

[00:22:21] None of this God stuff, any of your religions, none of them strike me as plausible.

[00:22:28] Like, how does that get passed on?

[00:22:32] You know what I mean?

[00:22:33] How do we make that the same thing?

[00:22:34] No.

[00:22:35] How has that even become a thing?

[00:22:37] Oh, the God thing?

[00:22:39] How has atheism become as prevalent even as it has?

[00:22:44] Well, because I think that there is a certain portion of people out there that require more

[00:22:51] evidence and more logic than some other people.

[00:22:55] So, like, as peer review science has increasingly become more accessible to the masses, more of

[00:23:03] us quote unquote commoners have been like, no, you know what?

[00:23:07] That makes sense.

[00:23:08] And I would like some proof, please.

[00:23:10] Yeah.

[00:23:11] No, definitely.

[00:23:12] Science has, you know, caused people to think in a different manner than they would have

[00:23:16] before science was as prevalent as it is now.

[00:23:19] The microscope and the telescope killed God.

[00:23:23] Yeah.

[00:23:24] Among other things.

[00:23:25] Right.

[00:23:25] Yeah.

[00:23:26] I always like the one that's like, there's one like, you know, number of miracles before

[00:23:31] the camera was a minute and number after.

[00:23:33] I think also the number of UFOs decreased.

[00:23:38] Right.

[00:23:38] Yeah.

[00:23:39] Once phones became pocket cameras.

[00:23:42] Right.

[00:23:43] Right.

[00:23:43] All right.

[00:23:44] Let's carry on.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:45] The days are coming, declares the sovereign Lord.

[00:23:48] Yeah.

[00:23:48] When I will send a famine through the land.

[00:23:51] Again.

[00:23:52] I'm going to get you.

[00:23:52] Always with the famine.

[00:23:54] Not.

[00:23:55] Oh, he's correcting himself though.

[00:23:56] Okay.

[00:23:57] Ready?

[00:23:57] Yeah.

[00:23:57] Just so you know, not a famine of food or a thirst for water.

[00:24:02] Okay.

[00:24:02] Let me explain this famine.

[00:24:03] Sure.

[00:24:04] Yeah, please do.

[00:24:05] A famine of hearing the words of the Lord.

[00:24:10] He doesn't talk to them.

[00:24:12] Well, but you're not going to have any access to anybody talking about the laws.

[00:24:18] You better be good or I'm going to stop talking to that guy down the street that you kind of

[00:24:21] sort of listened to.

[00:24:22] But there's going to be a hunger for it and they won't be able to access it.

[00:24:26] But isn't that exactly when you want to feed them the word of God?

[00:24:31] Like if they're like, I need your help.

[00:24:34] I'm, you know, I'm asking for your help, you know, and I'm willing to, you know, you

[00:24:38] know, worship you the way you want to be worshiped.

[00:24:40] And then he's like, nah, fuck you.

[00:24:42] I'm sending a famine in such a way as that I'm not going to talk to any prophets and you're

[00:24:51] not going to have access to any spiritual guidance.

[00:24:55] Here's what I think.

[00:24:55] I think that what that is, is a recognition of the fact that when shit goes south, like

[00:25:02] when there is a war, when there is an actual famine or, you know, whatever is going on

[00:25:08] that's bad, right?

[00:25:09] When that is happening and people are crying out to their gods and there's not a fucking

[00:25:13] answer, they can point to this and say, well, it's because he's angry at you and he's not

[00:25:18] answering you.

[00:25:19] Yeah.

[00:25:19] Right.

[00:25:19] Were you praying?

[00:25:21] Yeah.

[00:25:21] Were you scared?

[00:25:22] Before this?

[00:25:22] Were you praying before this?

[00:25:23] And were you scared every day?

[00:25:24] It's too late now.

[00:25:25] Right.

[00:25:26] You know, you can't, you can't ask for it as it's coming down the pike at you.

[00:25:29] Yeah.

[00:25:29] You have to ask for it beforehand.

[00:25:31] And obviously, even if you mean it wholeheartedly, God's still going to let you die, you fucker.

[00:25:36] Yeah.

[00:25:37] It's true.

[00:25:38] It's true.

[00:25:39] Probably, probably gleefully because your king sucks.

[00:25:42] Or something.

[00:25:43] Right.

[00:25:43] Or he's just fucking in a bad mood that day.

[00:25:46] An asshole.

[00:25:47] Yeah.

[00:25:47] A dick, if you will.

[00:25:48] Right.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:50] People, continues God, will stagger from sea to sea and wander from north to east, but

[00:25:57] not north to south.

[00:25:58] North to east.

[00:25:58] They take a left.

[00:25:59] North to east.

[00:26:01] They gotta take a north.

[00:26:02] They're going north.

[00:26:03] They gotta turn.

[00:26:03] They're headed north, so they're gonna take a right to go.

[00:26:06] From north to east.

[00:26:06] Never eat.

[00:26:07] Yeah.

[00:26:07] They gotta take a right.

[00:26:08] Yeah.

[00:26:08] Yeah.

[00:26:09] They're headed north up the page and then they take a right.

[00:26:12] Sure.

[00:26:12] Yeah.

[00:26:13] Yeah.

[00:26:13] Yeah.

[00:26:13] So people will stagger from sea to sea and wander from up to right, searching for the word

[00:26:22] of the Lord, but they will not find it.

[00:26:24] If they would have just gone down and left.

[00:26:26] Yeah.

[00:26:26] I think they could have found it.

[00:26:28] They could have found it.

[00:26:28] Yeah.

[00:26:28] They should have really got some GPS up in there.

[00:26:31] Totally.

[00:26:31] In that day, the lovely young women and strong young men will faint because of thirst, but

[00:26:38] not the ugly ones.

[00:26:39] Don't worry about that.

[00:26:40] Yeah.

[00:26:40] They're good.

[00:26:40] And the weaklings.

[00:26:41] They're fine.

[00:26:42] They're fine.

[00:26:42] Yeah.

[00:26:42] Yeah.

[00:26:43] Those who swear by the sin of Samaria who say, as surely as your God lives, Dan, or as

[00:26:50] surely as the God of Beersheba lives, they will fall never to rise again.

[00:26:54] Oh, man.

[00:26:55] I hate it for Dan and Beersheba.

[00:26:57] Yeah.

[00:26:58] I thought Dan was on the good team or whatever.

[00:27:00] Dan with the good hair.

[00:27:02] Just kidding.

[00:27:04] I don't know.

[00:27:05] All right.

[00:27:06] But we'll probably look into that in our Q&A a little bit.

[00:27:09] I'm sure.

[00:27:09] There's a lot of questions that have come up through the reading of Amos here because

[00:27:12] it's not like there's a lot of really, I don't know, what would you call them?

[00:27:18] Like deep cuts.

[00:27:19] Right.

[00:27:20] They're not.

[00:27:21] I feel like I don't have the full story here.

[00:27:25] What is really being said?

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:28] Yeah.

[00:27:28] But anyway, it's more of the same shit.

[00:27:32] God is angry.

[00:27:33] He's going to kill people.

[00:27:34] He's going to get you.

[00:27:35] And that's pretty much every goddamn chapter book of the Bible.

[00:27:40] Yep.

[00:27:41] And that was Amos chapter eight.

[00:27:43] Sure as fuck was.

[00:27:44] Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with, well, no.

[00:27:48] With our lives.

[00:27:48] Yeah.

[00:27:49] Yeah.

[00:27:49] So if you're hearing this, this will be going tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern on the Discord.

[00:27:55] Yep.

[00:27:56] Links in the show notes.

[00:27:57] Mm-hmm.

[00:27:58] Um, so click on that link.

[00:28:00] Come over and join us at 10 p.m. Eastern.

[00:28:02] It is a great time.

[00:28:05] And we would really, really love to see some new faces in there.

[00:28:08] So just do it.

[00:28:09] Okay?

[00:28:10] If I'm not mistaken, this is a Patreon only.

[00:28:13] So.

[00:28:13] Uh, yes.

[00:28:14] This will be a Patreon only.

[00:28:15] If you're not going to listen to us live tonight and you're not a paying member on Patreon,

[00:28:23] you will not get access to this.

[00:28:25] That's right.

[00:28:25] Yeah.

[00:28:26] So just do it.

[00:28:27] Like if you're, it doesn't matter whether you're on a computer or a phone.

[00:28:29] If you click the link, you can get Discord on your phone.

[00:28:32] You can get it on your computer.

[00:28:33] Mm-hmm.

[00:28:34] Whatever.

[00:28:34] Yeah.

[00:28:35] You can probably even get it on your Chromebook.

[00:28:36] I don't know, you know.

[00:28:37] No.

[00:28:37] I don't like Chromebooks that much, but you can get it there probably.

[00:28:56] Mm-hmm.

[00:28:57] Right?

[00:28:57] Man, we are trucking right through here.

[00:28:59] I know.

[00:28:59] Moving right along.

[00:29:00] So that means that on Friday we'll do our Q&A for chapters four through nine.

[00:29:07] I mean, five through nine.

[00:29:08] Okay.

[00:29:08] No, six through nine.

[00:29:10] Sorry.

[00:29:11] Okay.

[00:29:11] Right?

[00:29:11] Six through nine.

[00:29:12] Does that make sense?

[00:29:13] Yes.

[00:29:14] Yes.

[00:29:14] Six through nine.

[00:29:15] Six through nine.

[00:29:15] And that means that I don't know if we'll do it over the weekend or throughout the coming

[00:29:21] week.

[00:29:21] We'll have our wrap up and our pop quiz and you're always wrong.

[00:29:26] Right, right, right.

[00:29:27] And all that.

[00:29:28] But I do have a question for you.

[00:29:30] Okay.

[00:29:31] During our live Discord.

[00:29:33] Yes.

[00:29:33] Do you have an idea what we might be talking about for Patreon?

[00:29:37] Not a fucking clue.

[00:29:38] We always do this shit last minute.

[00:29:39] I know.

[00:29:40] I just wondered if we could give people a taste of what they might look forward to.

[00:29:44] It's so exclusive that even we don't know what it is.

[00:29:51] Yeah.

[00:29:51] Yeah.

[00:29:51] We got to go check our notes.

[00:29:53] Yeah.

[00:29:54] Join us with the surprise of what it's going to be.

[00:29:56] I know.

[00:29:57] Yeah.

[00:29:57] And we'll find out together.

[00:29:58] Usually husband does not find out till like right before we hit record.

[00:30:02] And I'm like, so this is what we're talking about.

[00:30:04] Right.

[00:30:04] And he's like, God damn it.

[00:30:08] All right.

[00:30:08] So that's everything coming up and we will be done with a book of the Bible again.

[00:30:14] And awesome.

[00:30:15] Awesome.

[00:30:15] Yay.

[00:30:16] All right.

[00:30:16] We will see you next time.

[00:30:18] Bye.

[00:30:18] Bye.

[00:30:19] Bye.