Bible Study by Atheists: Ezekiel Chapters 21 - 25 plus Q&A

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[00:00:53] Well, on Friday we read Ezekiel Chapters 20. Sure, I fucked it. And in that episode, Ezekiel had the elders in front of him again. Like he was meeting with them I guess. Because they were always like, what do you God say?

[00:01:08] Right, right. Yeah and God was like talking to Ezekiel obviously because that's the way that God does you know. He was like telling my son to the hand.

[00:01:15] Right, yeah. And God was recounting how he led them out of, you know, he jumped and then they fucked him over because they worshiped other gods and he's like fine. You can sort of live sometimes.

[00:01:28] And then he was like, you know, but then later on he was going to let him into the promise later than I still kept worshiping idols and he was like, I was going to fuck him up, but then I

[00:01:38] didn't, and then I let him in anyway. Why and why wouldn't he kill them? Because he was worried about what the neighbors would think. I mean, you know, as you do,

[00:01:46] you gotta worry about what the neighbors think it's a you gotta keep up with the Joneses, you know? Yeah, the big Egyptians would think that he was evil. Right. But he did say, you know, I am with holding

[00:01:56] I'm I'm I'm reserving the right to enact judgment on you at some point in the future and but then I'm also going to restore you guys too. So like I'm going to kill you and then

[00:02:05] I'm going to hit and I'm going to make you better. And so that seems to be the entire theme of the Old Testament. Yes. And it was all wrapped into that chapter and that's what that one was about.

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[00:04:20] Make her come to the discord channel. Get me to the table. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, we just got done reading on Friday as he killed chapter 20, which means that today we're getting in too. As he killed chapter 21. All right. Let's do this. Okay, don't be. All right.

[00:04:45] We are hopping into easy Kyle chapter 21. Or as I like to call it, is he killed chapter 21? But easy Kyle is so much more fun. It really is. It really is. You're right. You win that contest. I just want to make sure listeners know what we're listening to.

[00:05:00] Well, you know, I'm just, I know that's the only reason. The only reason. Otherwise it's easy Kyle all the way, you know? Before we actually begin reading though, I have a couple of notes that I should deliver. Okay. Yeah. So chapters 20 through 24.

[00:05:16] So that includes the one I'm in Friday. Yeah. They offer further predictions regarding the fall of Jerusalem. So I think I said that I'm Friday as well. These are like a section unto themselves. Okay. And so we're in the middle of that now. Got it. Okay.

[00:05:30] This particular chapter also includes a prophecy against the Aminites, that's beside the point. This has been called the Sword Song or the Prophecy of the Sword. Oh. On account of its detailed mentions of the Sword of the Lord. The Sword of the Lord.

[00:05:49] We've talked about the Sword of the Lord before. And I'm excited about this. Yeah, he's got a sword and he's going to poke it with it. Yeah. Yeah, he is. You remember that that skit with, he's one of your favorite guys from Snell, the witch guy from Snell.

[00:06:07] The guy that lives in his mom's basement, what the hell's his name? He dated lots of girls. Oh, he peed. Peed. Peed, Davidson. Yeah. Do you remember the skit where he was like on, and he would go, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[00:06:23] And he had the sword and he was like on a fantastic, cool adventure or whatever. And he's like, okay. And like, it was great. It was great. I'll have to stop. I'll have to stop. But a link in the show notes for that

[00:06:37] because I am doing it no justice here. Here's what he was Peed Davidson. Everybody either loves him or hates him. Sure, but that like, whether you love him or hate him, that one definitely was like one of my favorites. So I'm just throwing that out there.

[00:06:51] I absolutely love him. I think he's hilarious because he's just my kind of person. And even though I am not the right age, like demographic to be a person who adores Pete Davidson, I still do none the less. Right. Right.

[00:07:11] But it's just the sword reminded me of that skit. So okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay, ready? Yeah. The word of the Lord came to me. Did it. The way it does. Every fucking chapter. Son of man. Yeah. Me or human. Yes. Fucking warm.

[00:07:29] Set your face against Jerusalem and preach against the sanctuary. Prophecy against the land of Israel and say to her, I mean, prophecy against your own land. Yes. This is gross and say to her, this is what the Lord says. I'm against you. I'm a human. I'm a human.

[00:07:49] I am a human. I will draw my sword from its sheath and cut off from you both the righteous and the wicked. The righteous and the wicked. I'm gonna cut you all up. Good and bad. Why? What do you know how you have cancer in one boob?

[00:08:05] I'm gonna cut both the boobs off as well as your arms. I just don't understand the bringing judgment on the righteous. Like killing all you. You're saying literally, if even if you're good, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah. Okay.

[00:08:19] Because I'm going to cut off the righteous and the wicked, my sword will be unsheath against everyone from south to north. Yeah. You just kill y'all. I just love murder. Right. Remember? How could we forget? It's literally in every chapter. Fear the Lord. All the fucking time.

[00:08:36] Then all people will know that I, the Lord, have drawn my sword from its sheath. I guess so. It will not return again. I'm not putting this sort of way. I might shove it in a stone so that Arthur can come pull it out. Is that yeah?

[00:08:52] You think so? That will be fun. Therefore, grown son of man, grown before them with broken heart and bitter grief. And when they ask you why are you groaning? You shall say, because of the news that's coming, every heart will melt with fear and every hand go limp.

[00:09:13] I mean, how could I read all this? And not feel like it's just a big dick metaphor. Right. Well, I mean, I'm, it is. Right. I mean, essentially, like most of the shit in here is definitely male oriented references for sure. Yeah. So, well, anyway.

[00:09:31] Regardless of if it's actual dick reference, or just like the masculinity of maleness, he's still cheating his soul. Right. Yeah. So that you go limp. Right. Yep. Every spirit will be confained and every leg will be wet with urine. Mm. You're gonna pee yourself. Okay? Yeah.

[00:09:51] Your leg, you know why it's wet? Because if it's massive sword. Could you peat on it? Yeah. It is coming. Oh yeah. It's so absurd, so much of a child. It will surely take place to clear his disalven Lord. Yeah. The word of Lord came to me again.

[00:10:12] Again, again, it came to you, okay? Son of man. Yeah. Mirror human. You're fucking warm. Yeah. Prophecy and say this is what the Lord says. A sword, a sword, a sword, sharpened and polished. Sharpen for the slaughter, polished to flesh like lightning. Yeah. I'm gonna get you.

[00:10:32] Shall we rejoice in the scepter of my royal son, the sword despises every such stick? What? My sword despises every such stick. I don't understand the reference there exactly. Your sword's subcompared to mine. I guess. I really don't know. That's a weird sentence. That's a weird sentence.

[00:10:56] It is. Okay. The sword is appointed to be polished. To be grasped with the hand. It is sharpened and polished, made ready for the hand of the slayer. Song of the sword, right? Sure. I love my sword. I'm gonna polish that shit so much.

[00:11:12] You're doing grasp it real hard. I'm gonna shine it up and down. Up and down. Did you get wrong? There's a video of this preacher at some, I don't even know. It's just like a meme I saw basically.

[00:11:25] But like this preacher pulls out a fucking sword or a rod or something. And he's literally, it's probably referencing this actual chapter when he's talking about this based on what I remember seeing. But he literally starts stroking the fucking sword on stage in front of everybody and

[00:11:44] it looks like he's fucking jacking off. It's jacking off the fucking sword. I'm like, what are you doing? I'm polishing my rod. What? I mean, yeah, but that's exactly what they're describing here. I'm like, oh my god. Yep. Cry out and whale, son of man. Yeah.

[00:12:00] That big sword's gonna get you. Oh, but it is against my people. Yeah, it is. It is. It is against all the princes of Israel. They are thrown to the sword along with my people. Therefore beat your breast. Yeah. Do it. Testing will surely come.

[00:12:20] And what if even the septer which the sword despises does not continue to clears the sovereign. What if even the septer that the sword despises does not continue? I think it's talking about like royalty, like the royalties going to come to an end. All right. All right.

[00:12:36] So then son of man, prophecy and strike your hands together. Okay. Okay. I guess. I don't know. Let the swords strike twice. Even three times. Oh, okay. It's a sword for slaughter. A sword for great slaughter, closing in on them from every side. I mean, okay.

[00:12:55] One, yeah, it's a sword that specifically for slaughter. Yes. It's not meant for cooking steak. Right. It's not meant for getting dressed. Right. It's not meant for painting your fingernails. No. Soords are meant for slaughter. Yours is no different. Yeah. You like to kill.

[00:13:13] You have a tool for killing. Yeah. Right? Okay. Just making sure we're on the same page here. Right. I mean, the weapons are weapony. I mean, we've been joking a lot through this episode because the references just kind of ring true for fabric references and what have you.

[00:13:30] So but the truth is that this is still a gross, you know, just symbolism for murdering fuck tons of people. I like to murder fear the Lord. Yeah. And it's this is just disgusting. Like the fact that they view religious practices as a reason to murder people.

[00:13:52] And this is this is, let's not kid ourselves. That's what's happening here. If you don't do these specific religious practices, you deserve to die. Yeah. That is exact. And it's it's sickening because these and I know, I know, I know, I say this all

[00:14:09] the time, but these same ideas are percolating back into society. And it's just not good. It's very not good. I'm not that this is part of the reason why we wanted to read this book because we wanted to understand where these disgusting ideas are coming from.

[00:14:26] And here it is, this is the reason that these are the disgusting ideas. I love my sword really because Americans love their guns. Right. Yeah. It's almost a direct correlation between this and guns. Yeah. Swords guns, whatever. We all like to kill on your own. Not only that.

[00:14:42] Yeah. But yeah. The idea that you have the right and moral stance to murder people, the moral duty for not obeying God, right? Mm-hmm. Whatever that obeying is to you. For anyone person who possesses a weapon that day. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:04] So that hurts may melt with fear and the fallen be many. I have stationed the sword for slaughter at all their gates. Look, it is forged to strike like lightning. It is grasped for slaughter. I see slaughter slaughter slaughter slaughter slaughter kill kill. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[00:15:23] Making sure you understand it. Right. If I say it off and enough, then then then... I mean, I think he has set it off and enough. I mean, I'm going to just say that right now that he has set it off and enough. Oh, this part's fun.

[00:15:36] We're going to do the hook is hooky, ready? Can we go to turn ourselves around? Slash to the right, you sword. Then slash to the left. Wherever your blade is turned. Ah. You know? Yeah. To the right to the left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

[00:15:48] I too will strike my hands together and my wrath will subside. Either Lord of Spoken. Mm-hmm. It will subside, huh? The word of the Lord came to me. I wait, this is still the same chapter, right? Where he's...

[00:16:01] The word of the Lord is come to us as he could all lay three fucking times in this chapter. In the third time now, yeah. We have to keep mentioning that it... Like we can't just continue the story.

[00:16:10] These are separate instances apparently that the word has come to him. Never forget. Okay. It's always the Lord. Yeah. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. Yeah, fucking worm. Mark out two rows for the sword of the King of Babylon to take. Both starting from the same country.

[00:16:27] So we're doing more play acting dollhouse. Okay. Yeah. Make a sign post where the road branches off to the city. Mark out one road for the sword to come against Robah the Aminites and another against Judah and fortified Jerusalem.

[00:16:43] For the King of Babylon will stop at the fork in the road at the junction of the two roads to seek an omen. He will cast lots with arrows. He will consult his idols. Hold on. He will examine the liver.

[00:16:57] Wait, wait, wait, who's going to cast lots and consult idols? The King of Babylon. Oh, okay. He's saying he's in the King of Babylon. Never can measure, I think. Sure. He's going to come walkin down his little path. He's going to reach across roads. Yeah.

[00:17:12] And he's going to have to stop and think. Hmm. Which way am I going to go? I want to go kill the Aminites today or do I want to attack Jerusalem today? Right. Right. Let me throw the bones or whatever and decide. Got it.

[00:17:23] So he's going to do three things. He's going to cast his lots. He's going to write the name of each city on one of the arrows and then toss them. Okay. Okay. Right. Then he's going to consult his idols. Hmm. So he's going to pray or whatever. Yeah.

[00:17:37] And he's going to examine the liver. Okay. So he's going to kill the... The killer you know? Yeah, this yeah, okay. And he's going to... He's going to look at the liver. Yeah. Yeah. So I actually have a little bit of note about that. Okay. Okay.

[00:17:49] Scroll down my notes. Here we go. There's a thing called Hepatoscopy, which is divination based on the analysis of sheep livers. And it was widespread in the ancient Near East. Yeah, okay. Okay. Right. There's a word for it. Got it.

[00:18:06] For killing an animal and then looking at its liver to like lose. So I get in a palm reading only way more disgusting. Right. Or reading tea leaves except killing an animal. To do so. Yeah. Right. Putting the liver in the teacup. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

[00:18:21] Into his right hand will come the lot for Jerusalem where he is to set up battering rams to give the command to slaughter, to sound the battle cry, to set battering rams against the gates, to build a ramp and to erect siege works.

[00:18:36] It will seem like a false home into those who have sworn allegiance to him, but he will remind them of their guilt and take them captive. Okay. So it's just basically saying yeah, he's going to take the right attack. Jerusalem and get you guys. I got it.

[00:18:51] Therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says. Because you people have brought to mind your guilt by your open rebellion, revealing revealing your sins in all that you do. Because you have done this, you will be taken captive.

[00:19:06] You profane and wicked Prince of Israel whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax. Just to reiterate the prince of Judah at this point is Zedakaya. Kings at a king. But they always refer to him as the prince in this book.

[00:19:25] In this book, because since he was placed there by the Babylonian king, they say that he's not the true king. Right, which strikes me a little bit in so far as Ezekiel is either playing a political game here too,

[00:19:45] by writing down that he is a prince or at the very least, this was edited by the Babylonians or something. Like something happened to make that wording change to where he's not a king versus he's a prince. Let's not forget that Ezekiel is in Babylon.

[00:20:02] Right, so that's how they would refer to him. That's how the Jews in Babylon would refer to him. Right, because they're not in Jerusalem. So they're like that is not the king. What the fuck's going on down there? Okay, all right, so fair enough.

[00:20:18] They're like the last we knew, I think, um, walking. In a game or whatever, yeah, what's the king? And they're like, that's the king. This is just a little fucking play Prince. Got it. Okay. So just wanted you to kind of have that perspective

[00:20:34] that they're not right there where it's happening. They're actually in captivity. But again, he's saying the words of the Lord and you would think that the Lord would be able to get that wording correct between between Ezekiel and Ezekiel. But it's not, it's different.

[00:20:50] Right, because it's not God. It's two different dudes playing different political games. Because these are literally the words of God, right? Whereas the words of God when Jeremiah said them, it said king. Yeah.

[00:21:00] So I mean, it has there is no correlation between how God is talking to one prophet to the other and the same exact time. Yeah. Which to me debunks the whole fucking thing anyway. Yeah. Right there, that alone is just stupid. Yeah.

[00:21:14] So you God is the one talking to you? No bullshit. Right. You're talking to your fucking self. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, these two dudes were playing different games in different cities. Yeah. And their words did not match. Right, they matched enough to put in the Bible. Right.

[00:21:30] But they didn't match enough to actually make logical sense. Right. Right. So this is what the sovereign Lord says. Take off the turbine, remove the crown. It will not be as it was. The lolly will be exalted and the exultive will be brought low. A ruling, a ruling.

[00:21:47] I will make it a ruin. The crowd will not be restored until he to whom it rightfully belongs shall come to him. I will give it. Okay. And that's either Jesus if you're a Christian, hypothetically or zombie David, flying of people if you're Jewish maybe,

[00:22:09] or just some random person at some point. Well, actually it was Cyrus at 1.2. Yeah. Because like he was considered that savior of of right. Judaism or whatever to just depends on who you're asking and what time frame it is and whatever. Yep. Somebody yet to come.

[00:22:24] Somebody yet to come? Yeah, sure. All right. Now we're moving to that Ammonite section. Okay. Yeah. So we're off that now. Got it. Yeah. And you, Son of Man. You're human. You're fucking warm. Prophecy and say this is what the sovereign Lord says about the

[00:22:42] Ammonites and their insults. A sword, a sword drawn for the slaughter, polished to consume and to flash like lightning. Okay. Okay. Yeah. He's going to kill Ammonites now. We love killing people. Mm-hmm. Despite fault visions concerning you and lying divinations about you,

[00:23:00] it will be laid on the necks of the wicked who are to be slain. Who's day has come. Whose time of punishment has reached its climax. I'm not really sure why we in the Bible. Right here when we're talking about God's judgment,

[00:23:15] care about the destruction of the Ammonites. Right? Same. Yeah. Because ideally, hypothetically, we already destroyed them earlier in the Bible. And moreover, it's not really relevant because it's not the Jewish people that are destroying the Ammonites. It's God through Babylon. Right.

[00:23:35] And therefore, highly unrelivement to the whole story. The only thing that I can kind of draw from it is this particular book of the Bible has been very interested in how the Jews of that time came into being. So they talked about their early Ammonite and Midianite,

[00:24:00] all of that from the Canaanites. Right? Yeah. He talked about that a couple of chapters ago about how they came into being as the people they are today. Right. And so it strikes me that he's like, I'm on kill your mama. Okay. All right.

[00:24:17] Maybe there's some because he did refer to them as, you know, your father was, I forget what, sure. team and your mother was the Ammonites. Yeah. And so now he's basically saying, I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill your mama. I guess. I guess.

[00:24:33] I'm just putting it out there that maybe. That's where he's going. I just feel like this is a unneeded portion in the Bible. Totally agree. So totally agree. I'm stretching to try to find any kind of literary reason for it. Yeah.

[00:24:47] And that's the only thing I could come up with. Sure. But on the face, I totally agree with you. Right. Let the sword return to his sheasts. I thought it wasn't going back in a shape. He said that at one point.

[00:24:58] In the place where you were created in the land of your Amcestry, I will judge you. All right. Oh, damn. All right. Had to read two more sentences. I will pour out my wrath on you and breathe out my fiery anger against you.

[00:25:12] I will deliver you into the hands of brutal men, men skilled in destruction. You will be feel for the fire. Your blood will be shed in your land. You will be remembered no more for all of the Lord have spoken. Guess what happened? We still remember them.

[00:25:29] They're right there. We're talking about them today in 2024. No. So I guess that didn't work out so well for God. We still remember them because you should wrote that down. Right. Yeah. If you wanted to forget them, you shouldn't have written it down.

[00:25:42] You should have not written it down. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that didn't work out so well. Nope. Nope. All right. Do you remember the Ammonite? I do actually. I do. Yeah. Like just I just heard about them just now again. Again. Yeah. Some more. Mm-hmm. Yep.

[00:25:59] So you got anything else for us today? Absolutely not. Absolutely. Okay. All right. Great. That was a Zecil chapter 21. Sure. Which means that we will be back tomorrow with Zecil chapter 22. All right. We'll see you then. Bye. Hi, Sven. Wife.

[00:26:21] Do you know where the fuck we are and how that how we got here? Well, yesterday we read a Zecil chapter 21. We did. And in that chapter, God polished a sword up and down and back and forth and all over the place. And yeah.

[00:26:36] And God used his sword to kill like everybody. Or a lot about it. Or yeah, he was going to use it to kill everybody a lot. But not totally shines it up real quick. He's going to polish it so good. He's got to polish his job.

[00:26:49] It's got to be done. Yeah. So yeah, there was just a lot of like a future killing prophecy shit happening. I want to of that like symbol. Yeah, yeah, that too. Yeah. Yep. For sure. So that was essentially as he killed chapter 21. Sure, spot what?

[00:27:06] Which means that today we're getting into a Zecil chapter 22. Before we hop in, I do want to mention real quick that we are still in the midst of our Patreon drive. Ooh. I don't have anybody to shout out today, which means that we really need your help. Mm-hmm.

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[00:28:10] All right, we are jumping into easy Kyle chapter 21. Goar as I like to call it, a Z-Kille chapter 22. Because it's actually 22. I have no business being alive today. Yeah, so easy Kyle chapter 22. That's why I'm going to say. I'm glad I caught that because I wasn't sure

[00:28:33] that it took me a second to process that you had got that wrong. Yeah, and I'm like usually if it gets like a chapter wrong or like a book wrong, it's me. Yeah. So remember when we were into my end,

[00:28:44] then you kept calling it Isaiah for like halfway through the book. Yeah. Yeah, well today I was doing my notes and I accidentally saved my notes under Genesis because I'm doing another project that is in Genesis. Right, right.

[00:29:02] And so I was like, oh my god, where am I? Okay. Yeah, you know one thing, I got a second. I got a second. I got a second. One of the things about doing like a podcast where you do lots of

[00:29:10] fucking material or any, any project where you have lots of material. Yeah. You end up getting confused as to where the fuck everything is. Like you have to like Uber organized all the folders, all the places, because otherwise you're just like, what? And where is this shit?

[00:29:25] We're both ADHD kids. Right. Like legit. Yeah. And yeah, it's not good. No. It's not good. No. All right. But for realsies, yeah. Is he killed or easy Kyle as I like call him? Right. Chapter 22. Yes, that's the one. Guess what happened? Uh, God kills people.

[00:29:43] The word of the Lord came to me. Oh, that's the one. That's not always happening. Yeah, that's the one. They sometimes happen the multiple times. I think it probably will again. Probably. Son of man. Yeah, mere work. That, yeah, yeah, mere human. You're fucking warm. You're fucking warm.

[00:29:57] You want to do that again? Sure, go for it. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. You're fucking warm. Will you judge her? Will you judge the city of bloodshed then confront her with all her detestable practices? And say this is what the sovereign Lord says.

[00:30:13] Your city that brings on herself doomed by shedding blood in her midst and defiles herself by making idols. You have become guilty because of the blood you have shed and have become defiled by the idols you have made.

[00:30:25] You have brought your days to a close and the end of your years has come. There are, I'm confused. Is he like seeing that they're saying this? So he's saying what he started saying is Will you confront Israel with this information? Oh, okay.

[00:30:39] So like, you know how there's all the people out there, you know, worship in the idols and sacrifice in kids, and all this shit, right? And he's been bitching about the entire old testament basically. But there's all these people out there doing those things, right? Yeah.

[00:30:52] And he's saying to his Ezekiel, I guess, or as Ezekiel is saying it to the old bucks that are sitting at his house or whatever. Right, the elder guys. The elders? Yeah. He's saying, will you confront them about this? Okay. I think.

[00:31:04] I'm glad that you clarify that because I get really confused as to who's speaking to whom. I don't think they're always real clear about that in the Bible. I will tell you that their use of quote marks is really confusing. Yeah, no doubt.

[00:31:20] Therefore, I will make you an object of scorn to the nations and a laughing stock to all the countries. Mm-hmm. Those who he has been saying he's been afraid of this. Yeah, no, no. Those who are near and those who are far away. So near and far. Right.

[00:31:35] Will mock you, you infamous city full of turmoil? All I can think of is a cooking monster who's like, near. No. Who is it? It's the opposite guys. So opposite guys? Yeah, they go near. Or opposites? That's what they do. Was that Sesame Street or something?

[00:31:54] It was, it says, me still, yes. All right. And. Remember, it was something our kid used to watch when they were younger. So yeah, from when I was a kid. That's all I was like, okay, all right, yeah, yeah.

[00:32:04] See how each of the princes of Israel who are in you uses his power to shed blood. When somebody is in me, they use their power to shed blood. When somebody is in me, they do not use their power to shed blood. Oh, yeah. I don't know.

[00:32:23] Okay, all right. In you, they have treated father and mother with contempt. In you, they have oppressed the foreigner and mistreated the fatherless and the widow. I don't recall any of that specifically being recounted when they were talking about Zeta Chia or any of the other previous King

[00:32:40] specifically. Like, there wasn't like they talked about they did bad things, but they didn't really specifically say that it was those things until just now, which is weird because this is a Zikil talking about it from afar. Right.

[00:32:54] When the other prophets were literally right there and they could have commented on it happening in the moment, but they didn't. Right. So the guys that were actually in Jerusalem didn't comment it, but this guy who is in Babylon is like, those fox over there.

[00:33:08] Can you even believe? I'd be like, dude, you're seeing eyeballs and wheels. And I don't know. So, you know, I don't know if I believe your visions here, whatever the fuck they are. You have despised my holy things and desecrated my Sabbaths.

[00:33:23] In you are slanderers who are bent on shedding blood, always with the blood. In you are those who eat at the mountain shrines and commit ludicrous. Ludem does ludicrous. I mean, that means they're fucking, you know what happens.

[00:33:39] What, what God needs to do when people can't loot acts. Turn his eyes away and not worry about it. That would be ideal, but no, I think he thinks you have to mass murder people for it. Oh, yeah, that's right. That would be his solution. Yeah.

[00:33:53] When people have sex that I don't want them to have in ways that I don't want them to have, I kill them. Yes. Murder is the correct godly act apparently in the Old Testament. Fear the Lord. Never not be afraid. Right.

[00:34:08] In you are those who dishonor their father's bed. In you are those who violate women during their period where they are ceremonially unclean. Dishonor their father's bed. Is that mean that there's sleeping with their mom? Probably. I mean, I mean, that's interesting, you know, phrase. That's all. Yeah.

[00:34:29] Interesting. Although I guess their, their mothers might not always be their mother. Right. Because there were a lot of them in had multiple wives. Right. So maybe it was just one of their wives. Yeah. They were fucking their step mom.

[00:34:40] And that was, we've run across that a couple times where that was a big deal. That somebody did that to their fathers. Why? You can keep on whatever. Whatever. Yeah. And they don't like that shit. Yeah. I mean, nobody wants their kid to fuck their wife.

[00:34:53] Yeah, but no woman probably wants to be one of 100 women that a guy's fucking. I mean, I'm just saying, you know, like if you look at it from that perspective, that not the name, but even the Bible gives a fuck about that. Right.

[00:35:03] But, you know, to be fair to the women, right. They probably don't want to be in that situation either. Right. It's true. Like, did they want it? Who knows? Right. Who knows who they wanted to fuck? Because nobody stopped to ask. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:35:16] In, you and I mean, we've already commented on having sex with women during their period. Yeah. So, it to them that they can't even. Well, and according to God, that justify murder as well.

[00:35:28] Which is like these things, these things that we're talking about all just five murder under God's eye apparently. Which is just so gross task. Like, don't worry about me and my period. I will fuck whom I please as long as it's consensual.

[00:35:41] You don't need to fucking worry about it. Right. Yeah. Like, we're not supposed to be like one of the 10 commandments, right? Is that all she'll not murder or whatever, right? Yeah.

[00:35:49] But when it comes to God, God can murder who over the fucking ones and in mass quantities of that. What I'm thinking is that he would say, oh, it doesn't count as murder because I don't consider them human if they're sinners. Okay.

[00:36:03] That's what I'm thinking that people would say to excuse that because then that gives them permission in their minds to go out and murder quote unquote sinners too. Yeah, well, as we've talked about with the, you know, the falling back into some old

[00:36:19] testament thinking in Christianity today and the, you know, the Christian right, the far right. It's a dangerous, it's a dangerous mantra. You know, it's a dangerous way to think about sin as that dehumanizes humans.

[00:36:34] And the second that you dehumanize humans, you can grant yourself the freedom to do whatever the fucking want to want. Right, which is some of the danger of Christian nationalism. Yeah. Yeah. In you one man commits a detestable offense with his neighbor's wife.

[00:36:50] Another shamefully defiles his daughter in law and another violates his sister, his own father's daughter. Gemini Christmas, these people just be fucking messes. Still, I don't, I don't feel like any of this unless it's unless it's not consensual.

[00:37:07] And even if it is not consensual, I don't think death is the answer, but, you know, some of them definitely whatever, it's all things so fucked up, you know? The whole thing is so fucked up because these are just messy people. Right. You know, these are messy people.

[00:37:24] I don't think they need to be murdered, but they definitely need it to be on an old episode of just during this scene. Still messy people, but you know what? We don't send people to the chair for fucking their sister. You stepped on my Jerry Springer joke.

[00:37:35] I apologize, I apologize. But you're right. Incessed is bad and you shouldn't, but I don't think that murder is the correct response. Right. Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. Yeah. That's one of my favorite things. Trying to throw Rudy Giuliani in jail.

[00:37:53] Right, and he married a fucking cousin. Right? In you are well, and Trump wants to fuck his daughter. Why, I mean it seems that way. Yeah. It's pretty fucking clear. Right, yeah. I mean, he hasn't like said it point blank, but he's all but he's hinted.

[00:38:09] He's skirted around it. Oh definitely. He hasn't said he doesn't. I mean, let me just tell you this. If there were rumors that I wanted to fuck somebody that was related to me in a way that's wrong. Yeah.

[00:38:22] I would be out front of that rumor trying to do something. Right? He's denying the fuck out of that. Yeah. And he is not quiet. But you know what, Trump doesn't deny anything. That's true. He just lets things happen and then he doubles down if anything. Yeah.

[00:38:37] Like that's that's his whole thing. That said he hasn't said one way or another about it. That kind of makes me think that it's the one thing that he knows is wrong. Yeah. Because he's not said one word. Oh yeah. And that's weird for him. Right. Right.

[00:38:51] In you are people who accept bribes to shed blood. Yeah, I mean, just be like, God, don't need to be bribed to kill people. Take his pain. Stop a wham, you just go do it now. Yeah. You take interest and make a profit from the poor.

[00:39:06] You extort unjust gain from your neighbors. Man, that would be a rough one for today's society. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Like how do you get away from abusing the poor? I don't know. But I was like, America's dog. I was talking really. Yeah.

[00:39:23] Like they like say this is God is, you know, America is God's country or whatever. Right. Like, I don't know. Like everyone has adopted like this God likes America. Right. Sure. He was born here. Mercha. Mercha. Yeah. But I mean, there's nothing about this country to me

[00:39:42] that like embodies any idea of anything that remotely resembles religion. Capitalism is very self-centered, you know? Capitalism is like the ideal old testament God in his worst ways. Right. Not on his best day when he's writing rules that say,

[00:40:03] let the poor come along and eat from your right. No, there are some nice things that God has said throughout the old testament with regard to the poor, but he has also counted those with some shitty things. So it is what it is. But yeah.

[00:40:18] And you have forgotten me to Claire's the sovereign Lord. I will surely strike my hands together at the unjust gain you have made. And at the blood you have shed in your midst will your courage and juror or your hands be

[00:40:32] strong in the day I deal with you? Either Lord have spoken and I will do it. He's going to do it. He's going to kill people. Mm-hmm. I will disperse you among the nations and scatter you through the countries again still some more.

[00:40:48] Okay, well at least he's only I mean he's going to kill Anne scatter because he said both. Yeah. And I will put an end to your uncleanness. You can stop him fucking each other. He could according to the Bible.

[00:41:00] Again, the Bible he has the ability to change people's hearts. So he also has the ability to give them leprosy. Right. Yeah. I just done that. There are other forms of punishment he could enact other than murder. He could pummel them with birds. He did that once.

[00:41:15] Yeah, yeah. He threw snakes at him too. Oh, he did. I forgot about that. And fire. He could open the earth and let him fall in a castle. He did that too. Yeah. When you have been defiled in the eyes of the nations,

[00:41:27] you will know that I am the Lord. That's that's when I'll know. When your neighbors think you are so pathetic that you can't hardly stand it, you'll know that I am God. Yes. And that is the day that you will love me. Yeah, who knows? Whatever.

[00:41:42] Then the word of the Lord came to me again. Still some more. Yep. Son of man. Yeah, Mary human. You're fucking warm. The people of Israel have come have become draws to me. Mm-hmm. You know, draws is the drugs. Yeah. Like when you're.

[00:41:57] I've heard that we've used it. He used it for a whole set. Yeah. It's the when you're pouring. Like the wine or the coffee or whatever. One container to the other. To get the sediment out and basically. Yeah. Yeah, so that it's refined each time you pour it.

[00:42:12] Sure. You have less and less of the groaty. Yep. And then what you're left with is the the drugs. That's called the draws. Got it. So the people of Israel have become draws to me. All of them are the copper tin iron and lead. Left inside of furnace.

[00:42:28] Interesting. I haven't heard them reference metal since like but since the uh, penitube. Yeah. Like the penitube they used like differences in metal to um indicate status and then different things like that, right? But I haven't heard that since the penitube until just now.

[00:42:45] That reminds me I was re-listening to uh the first episode that we did Genesis chapter one. Yeah. And interestingly we were discussing the fact that there was gold in the Garden of Eden and how God was like there's gold.

[00:43:00] It's awesome and we were like why are they fucking care? They're in the Garden of Eden. There's literally two humans. Like they they don't need any one rock more than another. Right. Like where they trading with because that's the only thing

[00:43:13] that gold is good for in that particular like excitement about gold is it's value for trade. Yeah. So that right there proves that I don't think that story was everything it was cracked up to me. No, no. Right. So yes, metals. They are but the draws of silver.

[00:43:32] Hmm. Therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says. And is it? Because you have all become draws I will gather you into Jerusalem. Because you have all become draws. So I will gather you into Jerusalem. You're all nasty so I'm gonna bring you home and put you

[00:43:48] where you want to live like what? Well I'm imagining he's bringing them to Jerusalem to then bring the sword or some such to kill the awful thing to them. Right. Okay.

[00:43:57] As silver copper iron led and tin are gathered into a furnace to be melted with a fiery blast. So will I gather you in my anger and my wrath and put you inside the city and melt you. There you go. There it is.

[00:44:13] There's a murder that we love about. There's the happy ending not in any way whatsoever. Right, right. Yeah. I will gather you and I will blow on you. Yeah, you will. With my fiery wrath and you will be melted inside her. Wow. I love a good melting.

[00:44:29] I mean this is this is pretty interesting imagery. I haven't heard him use like melting and you know make turn it into a furnace before. That's a new one. But I just can't help but still compare this to the Benedict Cumberbatch version of Sherlock when Moriarty says, oh,

[00:44:52] BANG! You. Like that's what I always think of when God does that. Right. When he's getting ready to burn people. Yeah. That dude that plays Moriarty. He is currently in a remake of the talented Mr Ripley. Yeah. I believe it's on Hulu and it's called Ripley. Got it.

[00:45:11] And I kind of want to watch it because I love that more Yardy character. He's a good actor. I love him. Yeah. I would watch anything with him at this point. For sure. Oh, thank you.

[00:45:21] As silver is melted in a furnace so you will be melted inside her and you will know that either Lord have poured out my wrath on you. I mean, I would imagine if you melted in Jerusalem. They're not going to know anything because they're dead. They're dead.

[00:45:37] They're melted. They know that they got melted or they knew there were being melted. And then they got melted. And then they knew nothing. So do you think that it's like in Indiana Jones and the... That's what I was a madman.

[00:45:51] Raiders of the Lost Ark, when they opened the Ark at the end and the dude melted? Well, I mean if you're talking about God's talking about blowing his breathy furnace into Jerusalem and melting them off. So that's kind of what I was imagining. Yeah.

[00:46:04] Shut your eyes, Maryam, don't look! Yeah, this seems very... I mean that might almost be where they got the imagery for that scene, for that movie. I don't know. Possibly. I don't know, but he's melting them. He's definitely melting them.

[00:46:19] Again the word of the Lord came to me. Okay. As it does. Yep. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. You're fucking worm. Say to the land you are a land that has not been cleansed or reigned on in the day of wrath.

[00:46:34] There is a conspiracy of her princes within her. Like a roaring lion tearing its prey. They devour people, take treasures and precious things, and make many windows within her. So first he was talking about how much of people suck and now he's talking about the leaders themselves.

[00:46:52] Yeah, we talked about this a little bit last time, but you know how they're referring to the princes which are kings actually. Yes. Is that a chia essentially? See the referring to. Yes.

[00:47:04] But they're referring to them as princes because that's the way they speak about them in Babylon because that's where Ezekiel is, right? Right. And they're like, that's not the proper king because Babylon is the one who put him on the throne. Right, right exactly.

[00:47:20] But I do recall that Jeremiah who was in Jerusalem was a lot more friendly with that of Cairo and called him not like yeah, not not like completely friendly with him. He was sociable with him like respectful or whatever. Right. Right.

[00:47:36] And he also was speaking, the Lord was speaking through Jeremiah as well. At essentially the same close in timeframes, right? Yeah. But the way Ezekiel talks about the kings or the princes as it is in Ezekiel is very disrespectful. It's very, it's just painful. Right.

[00:47:57] And it's very telling that he's in Babylon because I feel like this wording that he's using is coming directly from Babylon itself, not from God obviously because there's guys not actually speaking to Ezekiel.

[00:48:11] Well, it's not coming from Babylonians though because Babylonians would be like no he is a king. We put him on the throne. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So with the people that he's surrounded with at least. Right.

[00:48:21] It's the Judea, Judea people, the Jewish people that are in Babylon or the ones that are like, that's not our king. But regardless of who he's getting this wording from, it's telling that you're getting two types of

[00:48:38] ways that you're referring to this leader based on where they are geographically. Right. And so now. It has nothing to do with a message from the Lord. It's geographic. It's somehow the Lord telegraph his message differently one guy to the other. Right. Okay.

[00:48:53] That doesn't seem correct if you're a God who is trying to present a message that's consistent to your people to follow. Yeah. His message isn't very consistent. It's not. It's not. Interesting. Yeah.

[00:49:04] Either they just wrote it down with their own agenda, which I thought they weren't supposed to do because the word of the Lord is constant or whatever. Right. Her priests. So now we're just talking about the royal leadership. Now we're talking about her priests.

[00:49:22] Do violence to my law and profane my holy things, my holy things, whatever they may be. Right. They do not distinguish between the holy and the common. They teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean.

[00:49:37] And they shut their eyes to the keeping of my Sabbaths so that I am profane among them. Hmm. So those priests, they fucking around, they ain't good. Yeah. Bad priests. Yep. Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey.

[00:49:52] They shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. So what pisses me off though is that he gets mad. God gets mad at these priests and these kings and these princes and whoever for doing these

[00:50:06] awful things, the awful things that he's mad at them for doing is fucking killing people and the way he fixes it, how does he fix it? He kills them. He fucking kills them. What kind of bullshit is that? You're killing. I'll show you some killing. Yeah.

[00:50:22] No, it's fucking stupid. Right. Like that's the dumbest way to you're killing an entire people and scattering an entire people to punish a few people who are doing the same fucking thing. And it's all the leaders. Right. Hello, what are you killing?

[00:50:38] Like the people that supposedly represent you, God are the ones that are fucking over the rest of the people by telling them the wrong message according to you again in the Bible. It's really. And your punishment is to kill them all or scatter them all.

[00:50:54] It's kind of like if you were to relate it to today and we talk about Maga, right? Yeah. The maga movement. And there's two people within the maga movement. There's the people at the top, the leadership, the Republican party leaders, the church leaders,

[00:51:14] that kind of thing, who all know better. They all know better and I hate them. And then there's the people like my parents, our neighbors. The people down the street with the signs in their yard, right?

[00:51:26] Like I hate them but it's a different kind of hate because how could they know any better. They're merely following their leaders who are told them. And it almost lends you a resigned hatred with that has like a certain amount of sympathy makes in with it.

[00:51:48] I would call it disappointment. Disappointment. Like these are people that I respected sometimes in earlier points in my life. Those are friends and first and family members. I was going to morph the family's size, aspect of that.

[00:51:59] Like there are friends and family members from years ago that I respected their viewpoints on things but now that the media hasn't golfed them in this cocoon of information that is directly pointing towards this one idea.

[00:52:16] They have no way to escape that and they have no way to understand that the vitriol that they're spewing out every day with regard to their religion and their politics is so toxic that it's not even, you can't even, you don't know where to start.

[00:52:33] It's just fucking pure hate essentially. And if you want to have that conversation, you have to convince them to come so far back from where they are currently. That it's not even something that is reasonably able to be done usually.

[00:52:47] And that's why you have to look up ways to deal with people in cults. Right. You have to deal with them differently. You can't just present facts to them because they don't agree with facts and if you can't

[00:53:00] even start from the sky as blue fact, then the conversation can't even be had. Right. So there are different ways to deal with people in cults then with just arguments or discussions that you're having with somebody where you're both starting from the same point.

[00:53:20] And where you're both wanting the same end which is to still be friends at the end. Yeah. If the Bible has done anything, I will say that it has given me and I'm just realizing this as I'm saying this.

[00:53:36] If the Bible has given me anything thus far, it has given me the ability to separate my hatred of maga as a whole and separate it into my hatred of the leadership and the people who know better versus the followers.

[00:53:56] I used to lump them into one and just hate them all equally. In reading this and feeling for the people who are just following their leaders, like I'm realizing, oh my god, I was doing the same thing that God is doing by putting them all

[00:54:13] in one group and saying, Kittemol, not that I was saying kill all the magas. Right. I'm not saying that but like that's what God is saying with these people like don't discriminate kill them all and I'm like wait, but some of them are just followers and it

[00:54:27] like suddenly as just now as we're reading this, I had a light bulb go off that was like oh my god, I'm doing this baby. Maybe I should treat people like God. Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't be like God.

[00:54:40] Maybe I should have a little bit of empathy for the people that are just following and don't know any better. Right. Right. I would say you could base a pretty good moral code around not doing things like God.

[00:54:51] I'm just saying if you wanted to create a good in my opinion, a good moral code, you would remove a lot of the things that God does to his followers. I find it really interesting that I took the wrong lesson from this but that is somehow

[00:55:07] granted me the empathy that I was lacking. The Bible gave me empathy but not the way it intended to. Right. Right. Wow. I'm so sorry. I'm kind of like, whoa, we're okay. Let me just read on now. Sure. Her prophets, okay. So we're still talking about leadership. Yeah.

[00:55:26] Her prophets, whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. So wait, say that one more time? Her prophets, whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. Okay. So you say God is saying that these prophets are giving false prophecies a sense. Yeah.

[00:55:51] And they're allowing the people to do the things that they are doing without guilt because they're telling them that it's okay. Right. Exactly. But in the question I have had all along with regard to the prophets is there are tons

[00:56:04] of prophets, according to every prophet book that we read thus far. tons of prophet. Right. Yeah. How the fuck is anybody supposed to tell his God's messenger and why wouldn't God come out and just speak to the people instead of speaking through this one fuck who either

[00:56:20] wonders around naked in the goddamn desert or sees eyeballs on wheels and you know, wings and whatever the fuck you saw. And like it's just craziness. Why doesn't he come to all the prophets?

[00:56:34] If he doesn't want to talk to the people themselves okay, whatever you have a God complex I get it right? You could impossibly lower yourself to speak to the commoners. Right. But it was show it was showing act of God to make all these prophets agree. Yeah.

[00:56:49] Like hey. I don't speak through all you fucks even if you don't currently speak for me. I'm going to make you speak for me. Yeah. That would be an amazing that would act of God. That would be a really collective God. Yeah.

[00:57:02] Get them all on the same sheet of music. Yeah. And make the stories match even. Right. Yeah. Like is he a king or is he a prince for fuck's sake? That might make sense. Yeah, if you have to go through a messenger or messenger. Right.

[00:57:14] That would be something in worthwhile. Right. But this one person thing is just some bullshit. Because I don't trust one person and more than I trust another person. Right. Like you, you're not a prophet. Yeah. Moreover if you've got multiple people telling you the other thing, you're probably

[00:57:27] going to believe the larger portion as opposed to that one crazy fuck over there. Like oh yeah, that's crazy as he killed over there. Crazy. You know how easy K's always talking about is God damn for face. Guys sitting on the throne showing his dick off. Right. Yeah.

[00:57:43] They say so this is the prophet say. This is what the sovereign Lord says when the Lord has not spoken. Oh, they're making shit up. I'm. Those liars. It's funny to me because they, they being this this book, the Bible in general, is also making shit up. Right.

[00:58:02] They do Spanx says why? The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery. They oppress the poor and needy and mistreat the foreigner denying them justice. I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall and stand before me in the

[00:58:21] gap on behalf of the land so I would not have to destroy it, but I found no one. You were fucking God and you're talking, you're saying this to as a heal. Like you also said, some other things to Jeremiah like you got no one. Right.

[00:58:38] There was Baruch that was helping. Who who who was that Ethiopian who may or may not have been right. Right, right. What do you mean you found no one? No one. What the fuck does not know? Not one.

[00:58:48] Like it's a, except for the ones that I found I found no one. That's what it says though. Right. It just says periody and I found no one. Yeah. Like then you weren't, then you're a lot. I hope we're shit on that. Yeah.

[00:58:59] So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them, consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done to clear the sovereign Lord, the end. Okay. All right.

[00:59:14] Well, I, so again, more death, more suffering, God's going to kill people and every chapter, I'm gonna getcha. Yeah. I mean, as Ethiopian has been one of the more wrathful books thus far. Mm-hmm. This is very, that fire and help it on destroying people.

[00:59:36] He's gonna get you, but he's gonna get you hard. Right. He's gonna kill you so much. Right. So I gotta say something real quick. So like this is, this is kind of off subject. As we do. As we do. Yeah.

[00:59:50] So we're earlier today, I was getting ready to get our podcasts going tonight and I went into discord and I was like, chattin' with somebody. I was like, hey, we're getting ready to do our podcasts. We're gonna be streaming on four services tonight.

[01:00:03] We're probably gonna blow the internet up or something. Sorry, ah, you know, anyway. And then one of our fans of Furn, I've used their name before so I can use it again. Furn was like, yeah, you're gonna blow things up. What are you doing?

[01:00:20] You know what I'm like? You have little faith and the current to me as I'd written half the sentence. I was like, wait, yeah, that actually applies to us. But so I tacked on an LLL and Furn was like, yeah, I am. What? Yes.

[01:00:35] Like that track, so you have said the truth, right then? Yeah. Yeah. I'm Furn. Yeah, right. All right. So that before we get out of this, I do want to say that this was a live episode that we did on all the things. YouTube, Twitch, Twitter and Facebook.

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[01:01:10] So if you catch this episode in the morning, that's 10 PM. That's a 10 PM. Yes. Yeah, but that one is actually, in my opinion, the most fun because we actually conversed over there.

[01:01:22] And we tossed it around after, like, a bit of an after party and it's so much fun. Like that is our favorite space. And everybody laughs at us and makes fun of us. And times we say clever things, but usually we don't.

[01:01:39] A good time has had by all. That is very true, very true. So we would love for you to join us there. And I think that is all we have unless you have any notes to go over or anything like that. I have no notes for this.

[01:01:51] No notes. Yeah. Just a lot of death. It'd be what it would be. Yeah. All right. Well, that was, is the heel chapter 22? What was? Which means that tomorrow we will be back with. A Zeekeel chapter 23. All right. We'll see you then. Bye. Bye. Huston. Wife.

[01:02:14] Do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today? Well, yesterday we read a Zeekeel chapter 22. Sure, it's fucked in. And in that chapter, God was like mad at the Israelites again and was like mad at the murdering people and have idolatry.

[01:02:33] And he was mostly mad at like the leaders though. Yeah, well, he started the chapter like mad at the people but then he's like, but let me tell you a thing. And then he was like, it's the leaders. Yeah, the leaders of the pack.

[01:02:44] The leaders of the pack. I had to. I had to. I had to. You fed me. I did. I did. So yeah, he was mad at them and his answer to them being bad and murdering people and all that is to murder people. And all that.

[01:02:59] So we can have the big hats. Yeah, right. Yeah. So that was Zeekeel chapter 22. Sure, I spoke was. Which means that today we're getting into. Easy, geol chapter 23. All right, let's do this. Okey, Okey. All right, we are hopping into easy Kyle chapter 23. All right.

[01:03:32] And here is what it goes, ready? Here is what it goes. It goes like this. Is this English? Honestly, honestly, what happened there? I expected you to correct my easy Kyle. Oh, I should have. I meant to. And then you did it and I was so.

[01:03:47] So yeah, we're in a Zeekeel chapter 23. My GABA was flustered. Flab, flab, flab or gased it. I was gobsmacked. Yeah, flab or pasted. I don't know. Is this what came to my head? It was be fuddled. Okay. All right. I went. All right, listen. Yes, and I was.

[01:04:05] Yep. I know you're going to be surprised at this, but the word of the Lord came to me. Did it really? Is he guilty? Yeah, yeah. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. You have fucking worm. There were two women, daughters of the same mother.

[01:04:25] We also like to call those things sister. Yes, that does often get her that way. Yeah, they can cross the tubes and Egypt, you know, as you do. Sure. They got the big sticks out there. So that's what I hear. You know? That's what they said. That one.

[01:04:41] Yeah. Engaging in prostitution from their youth. Okay. You know how they do. I guess. It was fucking horse, right? Sure. I mean, that was a pretty common practice. Still is actually pretty common practice. I think we should just sludge him all around.

[01:04:58] I think that's what the Bible does. Oh, not what we do. No, I'm decent. Never mind. I'm a nice person. Sex work is real work, y'all. Yes. Okay. In that land over in Egypt with the big dicks, their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. Okay. So.

[01:05:17] To wait their virgin still, but they're they're prostitutes. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Their breasts and their virgin bosoms. Okay. Bosoms breasts? That's what I thought. Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. Bosoms are chesticles. That's what I thought. Yeah. Bosoms are chesticles. That's what I thought. Yeah.

[01:05:36] So their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. Okay. All right. I don't know what that. Maybe they had four boobs. That's what happened. That's what happened. Yes, they have four boobs. Right. Half their titties were fondled. The other half were caressed.

[01:05:54] The older sister was named O'Hola. And her sister was O'Holiba. Okay. And those words mean one of them is tent and one means tent is in her. My tent is in her. Okay. And these sisters are representing Jerusalem. I forget what the capital city is of the Jerusalem.

[01:06:20] I just said Jerusalem. Oh, I'm sorry. You know, the reput. Okay. So the rep is in Jerusalem and the capital city that is okay. So you know how Jerusalem is the capital of Israel? Yes. Is that right? Yeah. No. It's the capital of Judah. It also is. Okay.

[01:06:39] But the other sister is the capital of the other one. What is the other one? We've got Judah and Israel. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. I guess. I think we've been talking about Israel as a whole. Okay, but now we're talking about both of them. Okay. Okay.

[01:06:56] And how they're sisters, you know, once a little bit older than the other. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're talking about. Okay. And these girls represent those cities. Got it. With the cities with the titties. Okay. They were mine. They were okay. I'm God. Not as he killed.

[01:07:13] They were his. And gave birth to sons and daughters. Yeah. So, a whole lot is Samaria. That's the word. God. And I was trying to think. And a whole lot is Jerusalem. Okay. Yeah. A whole lot. Samaria engaged in prostitution while she was still mine. Or.

[01:07:34] And she lusted after her lovers. The Assyrians, warriors, clothing, blue. Governors and commanders. All of them hand some young men. And mounted horsemen. She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and to filed herself with the idols of everyone she lusted after.

[01:07:55] Like, like, firemen, you know how that's a thing like women lusted after firemen. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. She's like, there goes an Egyptian horse writer and there goes a fireman. She's like, I lusted after them. Yeah. She did not give up the prostitution.

[01:08:15] She began an Egypt when during her youth men slept with her co-rest her boobies and poured out their lust on her. Poured out their lust, and so they came on her. I think that means they came on her. Okay. They poured out their lust on her. Yeah.

[01:08:31] That's what I would take that to mean. Yeah. So they came all over that bit. I guess that sounds like it sounds like. Okay. Therefore, I got delivered her into the hands of her lovers. I was like, here. Whatever. Yeah.

[01:08:44] The Assyrians for whom she lusted, they stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her with the sword. You know, the way they do. Mm-hmm. Right. She became a byword among women and punishment was inflicted upon her. Okay.

[01:08:58] So that did not end well for her. I guess not. I guess not. But it's a city, not a girl. So. Right. Right. And ultimately it doesn't end up ending well for Jerusalem either. Yeah.

[01:09:09] So like, I mean, none of God's people will do it in well for ever. And he still talks about bringing them all back, right? I know. I will never forget though. I've already quoted this where there's one Jewish lady that was like, can you choose someone else? Right.

[01:09:25] Yeah. Okay. So her sister, a whole leba, so the younger one. She's Jewish. She's Jewish. Right. So this is all what happened yet. And her lesson prostitution, she was more depraved than her sister. Mm-hmm. I like how we don't talk about how all of the man's are great.

[01:09:47] It's never the man. No. It's always the woman. It's fine for them to talk. Even about something being let us tray. It's always the woman. Yeah. Always. Like, she is enjoying sex just fine. She's a horn a piece of shit.

[01:10:00] All the men that are fucking her, all the different ways they're fine. And then she was like, oh, no, no. I don't know, it was a while back. But they were talking about the men walking the straight path and then in the crooked path. Yeah.

[01:10:12] And every time they walk the crooked path, the honey lived vixins led them astray. It wasn't the man's fault. It was the woman's fault. Even though the man was going astray, the man was still being let astray by a woman. Yeah.

[01:10:25] Because men are not in charge of their dicks because they are monkeys. Right. Is what I'm getting out of that. The woman has that much power over men, maybe they should be in charge. Probably. If you, if you cannot control, if you want to be in charge,

[01:10:39] you have to be able to control the women. The women. No women. And your women. Right. And I'm not saying that you should feel that way. Right. I'm saying that if you think you are better, yeah. Then you should, that shouldn't be a problem.

[01:10:51] It sounds like you're not very strong, right? Yeah. Sounds like you're kind of weak and easy to shed. It sounds like you're a monkey, though. Honestly. Your dick is in charge of you and you are just led, like wherever it's pointing.

[01:11:04] That's what you do because you can't help it. Right. And women are strong in your weak. Yes. That sounds like you shouldn't be in charge of the world. Correct. Okay. So anyway, she was even more depraved because she liked it even better.

[01:11:17] I don't really buy that because I feel like it was equal if anything. Like I actually, the way they talked about the, the Israelites outside of Judah, they were way more depraved earlier on than anything they ever brought up with regard to Jerusalem. Sure.

[01:11:35] Because Jerusalem kind of became like God's favorite pet after the early, that's really Israelites kind of went away, you know? Well, she too, listed after the Assyrians, governors and commanders, warriors and fooldress, mounted horsemen, always the mounted horsemen. All handsome young men, young young young. Yeah.

[01:11:57] I saw that she too defiled herself, both of them went the same way. Hmm. But she, she carried her prostitution still further. We're going to talk more about how disgusting a horse he is. Okay. Okay. She saw men portrayed on a wall,

[01:12:14] figures of child dance portrayed in red with belts around their waist and flowing turbines on their heads. She told them looked like Babylonian cherry it officers, natives of Chaldeia. Uh-huh. As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldeia. So we,

[01:12:31] she was gross because she was grosser than the other because her less included that Chaldeians, right? But this is still symbolism for Jerusalem, right? Yeah. Okay, so what I'm gathering here is that whatever was happening at that given time

[01:12:48] in Jerusalem was so bad that they felt like they should reach out immediately to child hands. To have something change, which we even talked about that probably Jeremiah was one of those people that reached out to them, right?

[01:13:02] So even one of the prophets maybe sort of at least felt like they might be one of those people that reached out. So you're talking about one of your main prophets and your Bible possibly, like one of these fucking people that you're referring to as a whore, right?

[01:13:16] And lusty and after the child hands and everything like that. So this doesn't really work well for me here, because I feel like it's just convenient phrasing of all this. I'm like, oh God, you spelled it wrong. Yeah. You used wrong words.

[01:13:33] You didn't have their work checked against each other. Right, right? And we've run across that multiple times. Yeah. Specifically with Jeremiah and Ezekiel. Well, and I know to listen for it now, right? And no to listen for these inconsistencies in the Bible.

[01:13:49] And there are just so many of them, they're all over the fucking place. And these are not something that's probably going to pop up in our contradictions because it's not spelled out specifically. It's just like you had to have read it and know it. Yeah.

[01:14:04] Well, and we're extrapolating information that like maybe isn't exactly canon or taking that way by apologists. But it sure is. But it could be. It could be. Right? And it's a interpretive way we're thinking about this and say, that could be the way this went.

[01:14:18] You mean like in a realistic historical context instead of a magical whoy-whoy context? Yeah. The only thing I really feel bad about is that I feel like we have these same conversations literally every chapter because these same things happen all the fucking time. Yeah.

[01:14:35] So sorry guys that we're repeating ourselves, but it's not our fault. We're reading the Bible. I mean, if we weren't here to call out the bullshit, we wouldn't have to say all these things. But we do. So anyways, this horror, right? That one after the child. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:14:47] Okay. So the Babylonians came to her to the bed of love. The bed of love. And in their lust, guess what they did? They had sex with her. They defiled her. They defiled, but she called after them. What exactly constitutes defiling? I don't really know.

[01:15:03] Oh, is that when they lose their virginity or is that when they fuck on their period? That could be also as it just sex is defiling sex out outside of what a marriage I don't know. I don't know either. Degrees of defilement.

[01:15:17] After she had been defiled by them, I must have just been sex. Okay. She turned away from them and discussed. She was like, oh, Babylonia, barf get out. Right. He was like, can I see over? And she was like, no leave. Right. I just wanted to have sex.

[01:15:35] And he's like, can I meet Snuggle? And she was like, I said, go. I have nothing for you here. Get. And he was like, can I watch my Duke of it?

[01:15:47] It smells like pussy and she was like, what you can do is shut the fuck up and leave. Right. Yeah. When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I got turned away from her and discussed. Why are you watching them fuck? You nasty.

[01:16:07] You a peep and Tom God. Just as I had turned away from her sister. Yeah. You know, I don't think that you should watch people have sex unless they are both like into it. I mean, to be fair, he did say he turned away from it. So.

[01:16:23] But that's the way it already turned away from it. It already happened. Right. Yeah. And turn away until after. That's true. He did this is God talking. He has thatically right through Ezekiel and he described the whole scene.

[01:16:34] So you know, he did watch the, you know, the funny part to me was that he was describing the men that she was lost in after and it almost sounded like a porn description. Like the floor, the floor we read blah, blah, blah, blah. Then you know what?

[01:16:48] The bed of love he came to her. He came on somebody should write and Ezekiel chapter 23 like, time porn novel. Like, dime, a lot of karate can novel. Yes. That would be amazing. I would read the fuck out of that and I don't even read a roti.

[01:17:05] I think we have somebody that does like, I think you see. I think we got some fan of it. Yeah. Right. I'm totally here. You know who you are friend and I will promote it for you if you publish him.

[01:17:18] You can, you can definitely, if you don't want your name on it, you could definitely anonymous under our name. Right. But yes, highly recommend. Please do it. We'll write a forward even. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yet she became more and more promiscuous. Oh, she liked it.

[01:17:37] As she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt, I remember when I was a prostitute in Egypt and I was having all four of my titties rubbed. Yeah. Those were like good old days.

[01:17:50] And then I got fucked by the child dance and the Babylonians. Oh my gosh. Wow. There. There. She lasted after her lovers whose genitals were like those of donkeys. Wow. This is the Egyptians. I'm assuming because we talked about the Egyptians having those enlarged, you know,

[01:18:10] two holes at one point. Wow. Yeah. Okay. So whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Damn. The fuck this took a dark time. I mean, I don't know if it's a dark turn. I did not.

[01:18:25] But it's definitely like this is given to this some like pretty. Um, the imagery is very porn. I know this porn. You do not understand why we are talking about donkey dicks and horses dicks coming. That's yeah, it's that's um, yeah.

[01:18:41] That are two items that I never imagined never pictured ever. This is a book that Christians want to be kept in schools. I want to say that out loud. I want to read this at a mother fucking PTA meeting at a library bookbany. Yeah.

[01:19:03] I just want, I'm going to read it again. There she lusted after her lovers whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Yeah. That man was hung like a donkey and came like a goddamn horse. Yeah, he did.

[01:19:21] I like honestly, I don't even know what that means. Does does a horse? Like what is there, what is there come like, I've never seen the horse come to be perfect I mean, I haven't either. That's why I like.

[01:19:31] I don't really know who's emission like I've seen him pee. They pee for a really long time. Do horses have a lot of come or do they have like a hard, like, and then it just sprays across the yard and like put the hole in something.

[01:19:46] We'd have to ask somebody that does knows a lot more about horses. Yeah. Because I don't know what that means honestly. I'm just like wondering is it a lot or is it powerful or is it a powerful and a lot?

[01:19:55] I honestly think that maybe we have delved into the arena of talking way too much about horses. I mean, I'm just saying you're like, that's your right personal opinion right now. I didn't bring it up. I don't know. I was reading the Bible.

[01:20:08] I was innocently reading the Bible. There was one day just innocently reading the Bible and they started talking about fucking com out of a goddamn horse. Yeah, no, that's uh, I was unexpected. I was not expecting that. That was um, caught me by surprise for sure. Yes. Yes.

[01:20:26] Okay. We still got like 20 more verses and stuff to go. Yeah. I wonder what else we're going to find in here. I mean, does some real treasures up in this night? Yeah, I try.

[01:20:37] I would try to imagine how much worse it could get but then like in the Bible in general but I worry that I wouldn't go far enough because how do you top horses? I don't I really don't know. Okay. I really don't. An a Bible no less. Yeah.

[01:20:53] In the Bible. This is the Bible. The children, the morals and the stories from I want to make sure that this is the page. It's a little more time to mom. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mom's in Dad's mostly moms. Yeah. It's be honest. Right.

[01:21:08] So you longed you bitch longed for the ludeness of your youth. Yeah. When in Egypt, your bosom was caressed and your young breast fondled. You know, all four of your titties were getting worse. Right. But the bosoms weren't fondled this time. No, they were.

[01:21:20] Your bosom was best and your young breast fondled. Okay. So they got all four this time. Okay. All four your titties were out. I was making sure. Yeah. I want to make sure. She was like, oh, I sure wish this horse wasn't coming inside me.

[01:21:34] I missed the days when all four of my titties were being rubbed and that was the worst of it. Sadly, I'm producing an image of what this porn movie looks like in my head where we can through this. It's kind of disturbing a little bit.

[01:21:46] I'm really sorry that I'm being like so over the top ridiculous. Honestly, I'm a little bit embarrassed and I don't know what to do with this. So I'm just trying to like play it off like whatever. I'm cool.

[01:21:59] I mean, did you really like, I think we say something along these lines all the time, too? But did you ever think that the words horse jizz would come up as we were reading the Bible? I mean, no. Like, okay, I read the notes for this.

[01:22:11] So I knew that we were going to be talking about two sisters, right? And I knew that those two sisters represented the two capital cities. And I knew that they were going to be called horse and whatever blah blah blah. That was the extent of my knowledge.

[01:22:25] I literally knew nothing, so. Right. So no, I was not prepared for this. And I honestly just don't know. I don't know what to do with it. So I'm trying to just be funny, but I'm really kind of befuddled and Twitter paid. Right. Right.

[01:22:46] And so before a whole lot of this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. Oh, he's going to talk to the girl who got jizz on her. Yeah. I will stir up your love as against you.

[01:22:57] Those you turned away from indiscussed and I will bring them against you from every side. Also when she went and fucked the Egyptians, he's like, you turned your back on the child. Do you remember how you kicked him out of your bed? I'm going to go get them.

[01:23:10] They're going to come fuck you up now. Yeah. That's right. Thank you for that God. Right. I'm not allowed to say no after I said yes. I'm not allowed to say no. So this was all just like a, yeah, whatever.

[01:23:22] I mean, your mad that I said yes, then your mad that I said no and no means yes and yes means no and basically I was always going to get fucked. I do have a question though. If we're talking about this is symbolism, right? Yes.

[01:23:40] Judah and what was the other city? The Samaria. Samaria. So Jerusalem and Samaria. Yeah, yeah. So this is symbolism. Why do we need to know about horse seamen or large dicks? Like that gets a little too specific in my mind for symbolism. You want to know why?

[01:23:59] Because men wrote this. The end. I feel like they lost the thread on the symbolism and they just went straight to the fucking sex. That's all because I had to point that out because it doesn't really track with like a symbolic message. Yeah.

[01:24:14] We just went straight to the sex. Because they don't know how else to call the city disgusting except I say, oh, what's the most disgusting thing we know? Horse and donkey dick. Okay. Those are the grossest that let's put those together. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[01:24:29] It's all coming together now. Right. I'm going to plot this out. I need to get my index cards out. Oh, you know what? You said donkey dick. But what if we do horse jess? Right. Like those are two separate things. But cool, cool, cool, cool.

[01:24:44] I'm going with this. Keep throwing it out. Let's go. Let's go. What else you got? Right. I don't know. How about instead of two boobs, she has four boobs. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. So anyway, he's going to bring those guys to you.

[01:24:58] The Babylonians and all the child hands, the men of Peacard and Showa and Kowa and all the assurians with them. Handsome young men. All of them governors and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank all mounted on horses. Yeah. Okay.

[01:25:17] They will come against you with weapons, chariots and wagons and with a throng of people. They will take up positions against you on every side with large and small shields with helmets. Okay. I will turn you over to them for punishment.

[01:25:39] I feel like this is you were just in this like, um, there's no need for that. I'm not sure, but you're still doing it. I'm in a radical land because everything every word here has a double on Tom's shirt.

[01:25:51] And they will punish you according to their standards that they will. Yeah, they will. I will direct my jealous anger against you. How dare you fuck them? You should be fucking me. Right. What if that's what God's all about, right? As jealousy.

[01:26:09] It all comes down to jealousy in the Bible with regard to God. God is jealous. You're, you're worshiping other idols. You're, you're visiting other, you're polishing their knobs. Yeah, you're, you're doing it. It's trying in there for more than what he wants if you do those other things.

[01:26:25] He's going to kill you. You're not on your knees before me. Right. Only I can defile you. Yes. Yes. Share the Lord. They will deal with you in theory. They will cut off your noses and your ears. What? And that's not the real sin we are.

[01:26:44] And those of you who are left will fall by the sword. You know, okay. You're either going to get your shit cut off and I or just I. Right. Which do you prefer? And eventually he'll say he's just going to scatter some of them. Get some other cover.

[01:26:59] I don't want to eat any kill in donkeys. They will take away your sons and daughters. And those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. Hmm. Remember how he was going to melt on last chapter?

[01:27:10] That was a really kind of disturbing imagery the way you described that. It was a little bit of a metal and everything. It was gross. It was very gross. They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. You know, just going to rob you.

[01:27:24] Yeah. First I'm going to strip you then I'm going to rob you. We. So I will put a stop to the ludeness and prostitution you began in Egypt. Got it. By stripping you and taking your your goods. That's how I will stop you from being a horror.

[01:27:41] Got it. That's not how that works. Right. Yeah. You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore. Hmm. Okay. Okay. Now that go. Yeah. For this is what the sovereign Lord says.

[01:27:57] I'm about to deliver you into the hands of those you hate to those you turned away from the scost. Did they ever say that they hated them or wanted him to get out of my bag? Right. She was I needed to clean the sheets. OMG.

[01:28:13] What do you want to do? Guys are wearing Egypt head fucking horse sticks, you know? I don't know what to tell you. They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have worked for. They will leave you start naked. Oh.

[01:28:27] And the shame of your prostitution will be exposed. It would if she's not shameful of it. Right. Like, what if hear me out? She like to have sex. Right. And what if the only shame is actually you putting that shame on her.

[01:28:42] Because I have to tell you a secret. Are you ready for it? I'm ready. I'm ready. Some girls like sex. No fucking way. You're kidding me. I know. I know somebody who is a girl who likes sex. Seriously? Yes. I can't fucking believe it.

[01:29:00] She likes it a lot. You know what? She's not embarrassed about sex. Oh. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm not going to tell you. I don't want to embarrass her. Sure. Because it's not my story to wait. Is that your story? It's my story to tell. Oh my god.

[01:29:19] Oh my god. I'm a girl and I like sex. What? And I'm not ashamed. Right. Hashtag not ashamed. Your ludiness and promiscuity have brought this on you because you lusted after the nations and to file yourself with their idols. Yeah, I did. I rub myself raw with them.

[01:29:38] I mean, right? Like they do feel like they're just sex toys, right? Yes. Defiling with the. They're the idols. Free battering. Dildos. Yeah. Yeah. The way they always talk about him anyway. I was like in the movie that Emma Smith was just in. What was it called?

[01:29:58] Oh fuck. Pretty. No, not pretty. I got nothing. Okay. So well, it was the one with Emma's. Hmm. Don. Emma's stone. Yeah. And she. Um. It was like Frankenstein and Barbie had sex and had a baby. Oh yeah. That only was for a thing. Poor things. That's it.

[01:30:20] Yeah. Yeah. I said Emma's stone but is Emma Smith. I have no fucking Emma and it's the girl that was in Moleland anyway. Okay. I think that was Emma Stone actually. Okay. So in poor things, this girl discovers joy. Okay. By accidentally rubbing herself. Yeah.

[01:30:39] I remember that now. And then she says to the maid, I've discovered how to be happy. And it's like what? And she goes here. Let me show you and she grabs her crotch because she's like, Don't we all want to show each other how to she.

[01:30:50] It was so innocent. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be happy. Right? And the maid was just like, like absolutely not you. Lude thing. I mean, it's one of those. It's one of those problems with society, right? Yeah.

[01:31:03] We can't be more open about what sexual sexuality is. I'm not saying we should grab each other's crotch. No. No. No. But over like, um, it goes to another point that I learned when I was younger.

[01:31:14] Like when I was younger, I found out that if you can see over a bar in your apparently in a lot of places, you can drink right? So there's not as much stigma with regard to drinking in Europe as there is in the United States.

[01:31:27] And without a single law. And there's a lot less alcoholism also in those places because there is less stigma attached to those practices. Exactly. So it's interesting how acceptance and being able to talk about a subject will lessen

[01:31:43] the effects on the other side of that that are bad. It's almost like if you teach about safe sex in schools and pass out condoms and explain how to use them correctly, that doesn't actually increase sex. It actually decreases pregnancy. Right.

[01:32:04] You know, remember, adults always like to tell us when we were younger. Honesty is the best policy, right? But they're lying. They're lying. They don't fucking be honest with you. They don't tell you the things that you should know. They don't tell you anything.

[01:32:15] And they lie to your whole fucking life only then they also guilt you saying that honestly is the best policy. And we're like, wait, what? You should...you probably should have told us that, you know, all this stuff was just

[01:32:28] you being prudish-fucks and not actually the truth, but no, you lied to us instead. It's the boomer. So whatever. Most boomer. It's more than just the boomers. It's a whole culture. It's... It's...it's why we're doing this podcast as a culture of religion, essentially, that causes

[01:32:45] a lot of these ideas. Like, I just want to walk up to random Christian women and be like, it's okay if you have sex. It's okay if you don't have sex. Right. It's okay if you enjoy sex. It's okay if you don't enjoy sex. Sure.

[01:32:57] It's okay if you... All of the above are okay. It's okay if you never want anybody to touch you ever. It's okay if you want to touch yourself. It's okay if you want to touch somebody. And they want to be touched.

[01:33:07] And it's okay if you want them to touch you, whether they are a boy girl or anything in between. That's right. But let's not do children or unconcensual or animals because that's gross. Correct. All of the above is gross. Agreed. Okay. So anyways, girls. Yeah. Okay.

[01:33:26] You have gone the way of your sister, your whole bag. So I will put her cup into your hand. Okay. Her diva cup? Her diva cup? No. Do you know what a diva cup is? No. It's a menstrual cup. Oh, okay. Yeah.

[01:33:41] It's a plastic device you fit inside. You and it collects your menstrual stuff. Yeah. No I know. Yeah. So is that the cup you put in our hand? I don't know. I'm curious. That sounds like a question for a Q&A. What's the cup? What is that cup?

[01:33:58] What is the sign of that cup? They were about to play football and it's a growing protector cup. They're about to play football. I don't think that's the case because they're both in this symbolic message. They're both women.

[01:34:10] So it's not a sports cup and it's not a menstrual cup. Right. Okay. It's just a cup of tea cup. I guess yeah. This is what the sovereign Lord says. You will drink your sister's cup. A cup large and deep.

[01:34:26] It will bring scorn and derision for a whole so much. You will be filled with drunkenness and sorrow. The cup of ruin and desolation, the cup of your sister's Samaria. You will drink it and drain it dry. But you want its pieces.

[01:34:43] Sounds like the cup is filled with like all of the guilt and wrongness that the other sister's culture did. I get supposed to symbolize this whole. This is the sin of that other culture and I'm now giving that to you.

[01:34:56] It's a Pandora's box but it's made out of styrofoam because it's a piece of paper. It's made out of styrofoam because he's telling her she's going to chew on its pieces. Right. That's what it is. And you will tear your breasts and tear their breasts.

[01:35:13] I have spoken that clears the sovereign Lord. I'm glad he told us I want to know. Yeah. Therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says. Ready? I'm ready. Since you have forgotten me and turned your back on me, you must bear the consequences of your heart. You did.

[01:35:31] The Lord said to me as he killed. Right. Son of man. You're a mere human. You're fucking warm. Will you judge a whole lot and a whole little, a whole little bit? Then confront them with their detestable practices for they have committed adultery and blood

[01:35:47] is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols. They even sacrificed their children whom they bore to me as food for them. Why is he telling as he healed to confront Israel? When Israel is already long gone. Is Samaria not there no more? I don't know.

[01:36:03] Well, it's not, I guess they are still there but they're already not, you know, God doesn't accept them as his people. So like why would you be confronting them at this point? Well he is definitely wanting him to confront Jerusalem. Sure.

[01:36:17] And that's what most of the confrontation has been about thus far. Right. I'm not understanding the drop-in-back to like why are you confronting both groups? Why are we even talking about Samaria and Israel at this point? Yeah.

[01:36:31] They have also done this to me at that same time they defile my sanctuary and desecrate in my Sabbaths on the very day they sacrifice their children to their idols. They entered my sanctuary and desecrated it. That is what they did in my house.

[01:36:49] So just as bad as killing their children they came into a temple. Those are equal. Yeah, these are equal. Right. Probably more so because if they were actually part of another culture and doing the sacrificial rights for children or whatever he probably wouldn't have given two fucks. Right.

[01:37:08] But as his people and then they came into his temple his home and they like fuck you. Yeah. And I mean okay to be fair. Yeah, let's not sacrifice our children. Right. So I am kind of with them on that. No child sacrifice.

[01:37:21] We've covered that up most of the time. Come on. Stop killing kids. It's not right. They even sent messengers for men who came from far away and when they arrived you bathed yourself for them. Applied eye makeup and put on your jewelry. You just up for that man.

[01:37:39] Yeah. You sat on an elegant couch. Okay, not gonna lie. When I was reading my eye head accidentally scooted ahead a little bit. And at first I thought that word said, coach. What it did not. It said couch got it.

[01:37:53] So I read it correctly but I had to share since this is so gritty. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a coach. Okay. You sat on an elegant couch with a table spread before it. No one would you would place the incense and olive oil that belonged to me.

[01:38:08] Did you mean to say that way? I did. Okay. I was just making sure. Olive oil. Yeah. I should like that. The noise of a carefree crowd was around her. Drunkers were brought from the desert along with men from the rabble and they put bracelets

[01:38:24] on the wrists of the women. They put bracelets on each other at the Taylor Swift concerts. Did they? Mm-hmm. I bet that was a lot nicer than what's happening here. They hand me them like little friendship bracelets. Yeah. And everybody brought them to exchange in the crowd.

[01:38:40] It was like a big thing. Yeah, that sounds nice. That sounds rapy. Yeah. They put bracelets on. Oh, I'm sorry. They put bracelets on the wrist on the wrist on the women and her sister and beautiful crowns on their heads. Okay. They dressed them up good. Got it.

[01:39:00] Okay. Then I got said about the one worn out by adultery. Oh, okay. He was hitting both sides. Wait. The one worn out by adultery? The second one. Okay. Jerusalem. Got it. Now let them use her as a prostitute for that as all she is.

[01:39:20] Oh, so yeah, he this did get rapy. Yeah, that is not cool. This is I don't like this at all. Right. I mean, the symbolism. I don't put it. It has symbolism. Fuck the symbolism. The fucking symbolism is stupid anyway. It's past symbolism.

[01:39:37] He's describing erotica and pretending that it's symbolism. No, it's the they're they're fantasizing rape and dressing it up as poetry. That that's essentially what's happening. Yes. And they slept with her. As men sleep with a prostitute. So they slept with those rude women. A hola and a hola.

[01:39:54] Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. But righteous judges will sentence them to the punishment of women who committed adultery and shed blood because they are adulterous and blood is on their hands. So you're going to commit them to a sentence, but not before you let them be raped. Yeah.

[01:40:10] And the sentence is probably death. I'm assuming more rape and then death. Sure. And the men are fine to do that because we love when men rape. We love it. In the Bible. In the Bible, it seems that way.

[01:40:23] It's fun for men to be rapy and it's also fun for God to be murdery. Especially when somebody has sinned like, you know, when you, um, Well, then you brought it on yourself. Like when you have sex on your menstrual cycle. Yeah.

[01:40:37] And that is definitely worth you raped and you are murdering you. Yeah. At that point. Yes. Is that the message that God is trying to deliver? That's what I'm getting out of this. Okay. And also horseschess. Yeah. Yep. On the couch. Mm hmm.

[01:40:53] This is what the sovereign Lord says. Bring a mob against them and give them over to terror and plunder. Mm hmm. The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords. They will kill their sons and daughters and burn down their houses. Mm hmm.

[01:41:09] So I will put an end to ludeness in the land. Is that what you'll do? That all women may take warning and not imitate you. It's funny that throughout all of human history, um, these practices, ludeness, um, the idolatry, um, prostitution.

[01:41:32] They continue to happen without actually ever stopping. Mm hmm. So there was never a time when God stopped any of this stuff. It's almost like there's no such thing as God, or that if there is one he's not very fucking powerful. Right. Yeah. You and he gone.

[01:41:47] Well, and moreover, like this is just, like you said, it's men writing their wish that this is a gross, uh, I know it was the time, right? But these are women are subjugated during this time. This is not a good time for humanity,

[01:42:05] like this is not a good look for us. This is the fucking darkest of dark ages. Right. Yeah. So I don't, I'm not, I'm not down with this whole message that's in here. Here's the thing. Yes. It was the times and we could leave it there, right? Except.

[01:42:19] Except. This is how they want it to be today. Right. That makes it not just the times. That makes it contemporary. And Christians tell us constantly how the Bible is still relevant and applies to society today. And this is what they want to do to people like me.

[01:42:36] Wait. Right. Yeah. Okay. No. No thank you. Yeah. You will suffer the penalty for your looseness and bear the consequences of your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the sovereign Lord, the end. Hmm. Fuck you. Yeah. Honestly, that's all I have to say.

[01:42:54] Yeah. God can fuck right off with all that bullshit. The Bible can fuck right off. Yes. Honestly. The Bible can fuck right off. God can fuck right off. Anybody who as a kid has anything as being correct or right from the Old Testament can fuck right off. Yeah.

[01:43:11] It's not good. This is not good. This is not a good way to treat your people. It's not a good way to treat your neighbors. Look on people with regard to their practices. Even when it comes to the killing of babies, right?

[01:43:27] That does not mean you get to just flat out murder somebody for doing that. There's still a process that you do with regard to bringing people to justice and even at that. I am not for capital punishment myself.

[01:43:40] So there's still a discussion even with the worst of the worst that happens in the Bible as to what should happen to that person that does those things. So here's the thing. He is acting like the worst was not the death of the children.

[01:43:55] That was one of the things. No, it was the inner even the temple afterward. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, you know, I can't believe he turned to all these other idols. Like that's what he's really pissed about.

[01:44:04] I mean, yeah, and you killed your kids and you had to let sex and stuff tell. But he's really, really pissed about the other idols. Yeah. That is so fucking disingenuous to even mention that you're pissed about the child sacrifice. Right.

[01:44:20] That is not the first thing on the table that you're pissed about. I have no respect for you. You are nothing to me. Right. I agree. Okay. So that was Ezekiel chapter 23. Sure, it's fuck was. Which means that tomorrow we will be back with Ezekiel chapter 24. All right.

[01:44:39] We'll see you then. Bye. Hey, man. Why? Do you remember what the hell happened yesterday and where the hell we are today? Oh, do I remember what happened yesterday? Do you? Well, what was it? Jesus Christ. Yeah. It was not good. No.

[01:45:00] So we just got done reading Ezekiel chapter 23. We did. And in Ezekiel chapter 23, it was, it was terrible. It was porn. It was porn. It was horse. There was horse sticks. No, it was donkey dicks and horse come. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:45:18] Like, I mean, that was legitimately in the fucking Bible. Yeah. I did not expect that. I did not understand how this was the Bible that we're reading. Now to get a little bit more in depth about it, we were just, it was a symbolic message.

[01:45:31] We're reading about these two sisters who were named. Oh, hello. Oh, hello. Sure. Yeah. Right. There's two sisters they represented. I'm Samaria and Jerusalem. They were talking about how they were horse in symbolically, I guess. Right. But then they started talking about fucking horse common.

[01:45:50] And I'm like, this has gotten way beyond fucking symbolism here. You're lost the threat. What is going on? So anyway, God was still doesn't like the fact that his people worship idols and do all the things.

[01:46:03] And so yeah, that was Ezekiel chapter 23, which means that he's not a good person. Which means that today we're getting into Ezekiel chapter 24. Before we get in, I do have one thing I'd like to mention and that is that we are starting the new,

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[01:46:51] Well, you know, I'm not judging if you don't. It's a major conglomerate that you know whatever. I shouldn't bash him too much. Right. Anyway, it is what it is.

[01:47:02] But if you do shop there, there's a link at that sacraledist discourse.com forward slash Amazon where you can help us out just by shopping on Amazon. So that being said, we did a Zekeel chapter 23 yesterday.

[01:47:15] We're getting ready to hop into Ezekiel chapter 24 and are you ready to do this wife? I am. Let's do it. Okey doki. Alright, we are hopping into easy Kyle chapter 24. As I like to say Zekeel chapter 24. I don't know why you like to say that.

[01:47:42] I don't know it's not that I like to say it. It's just that I feel the need to say it because we are actually trying to let people know what we're reading. And so not everybody knows what you're saying when you say easy Kyle.

[01:47:54] It's just that easy Kyle is so much more fun than as Ekeel. Oh, I know. No doubt. No doubt. You were absolutely 100% correct. Big E. That is correct. I'm about to throw a day at you and then I'll let you know what that relates to. Okay. Yeah.

[01:48:11] In the ninth year in the tenth month on the tenth day, the word of the Lord came to me. Okay. So let me hop over to my notes right quick. Yeah. So I can tell you when the first time that was. Okay sure.

[01:48:23] So this prophecy was given in the ninth year of Zeta Kaya about January 5th either 587 or 588 BCE. Okay. The very day the King of Babylon commenced the siege of Jerusalem. I see. Okay. All right. So very momentous prophecies given today. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[01:48:45] It's supposedly happened the same day. Same day. That's crazy. Yeah. It's almost like it was on purpose or something. That's weird. Right. Yeah. Weird. Okay. So I'm God now and I'm talking right. Yeah. Son of man. Yeah. You're fucking warm. This date.

[01:49:03] This very date, this date that they didn't record well enough for us to know later because we don't have the date. So be fair. Calenators have changed since then. Right.

[01:49:15] So like it's not the easiest thing to I mean, like we were able to track down and they did say that it was on the same day that they got in beta for Babylon. So they did stand to be kind of.

[01:49:23] I hear you but I'm going to push back and say that the word of God is not very easily read. That is true. Okay. That is very true. Because this book is supposed to be the word of God. Right.

[01:49:39] And we've talked about this before too if the word of God really wants to be the word of God. God should like make it work wherever the fuck it is. Yeah. Like he should definitely come back and re-translate it correctly. So there's no misinterpretations of his fucking words.

[01:49:54] And maybe in the edit, leave out all the mentions of horse com. That would probably be a good move. Yeah, I would say that that didn't age well. That did not age well. I don't know if it was appropriate at the time.

[01:50:09] Maybe they talked about horse sticks and or donkey decks a lot. I think part of the problem with the Bible though is that much of this stuff. Well, while it may have been appropriate at the time, it's not appropriate for a God who is actually a good God.

[01:50:24] And therefore it loses all, you know, there is no commonality between today's values and what God wanted for those people back then. Like it's that you have to stretch to find that common ground with regard to the values of that time versus this time.

[01:50:42] I mean, it's only several thousand years later, what do you want? Okay. So record this date. This very date because the king of Babylon has laid siege to Jerusalem this very day. Okay. All right. Yeah.

[01:50:55] Tell this rebellious people and don't forget he is in Ezekiel is in Babylon right. Right. So God's like, hey, guess what I'm doing over there. Yeah. Right. Guess what you live here, but guess what your captors are doing over there. Yeah.

[01:51:11] Sounds a little braggie about his mayhem that he's causing. And by mayhem, I mean like murder. Yeah. Let's not wipe watching it in the dark. And all the horrible things that are happening over there right now.

[01:51:23] Killing the babies in the animal is going to brag to Ezekiel, I guess, about the fact that he's doing this maybe. Guess what I'm doing. It's not going to be called bragging because he's going to let some of him live and that's supposed to be a good thing.

[01:51:34] Right. Right. Tell this rebellious people, a parable, huh? Love me a parable and say to them, this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. Here go a parable. Not excited about this. Put on the cooking pot. The cooking pot, huh? Remember the pot that we talked about before.

[01:51:51] So this is different than the melting or this is a cooking pot now. But remember when we talked about the Tupperware? Yeah, that was supposed to be a safe place. Yeah. But he didn't say cooking pot last time. Right. He called on the pot or something. Yeah.

[01:52:05] That wasn't a cooking pot. Cooking pot sounds like he's going to cook. Yeah. Put on the cooking pot, put it on and pour water into it, put into it. The pieces of meat, all the choice pieces, the leg and the shoulder,

[01:52:17] fill it with the best of these bones. Take the pick of the flock. Pile wood beneath it for the bones. There's the bad part. Bring it to a boil and cook the bones in it. Boom, broth. Yeah. For this is what the sovereign Lord says. Ready?

[01:52:32] He says he says. Yeah. This is the bit where he's killing them, right? Whoa! To the city of Bloodshed, to the pot now, and trusted whose deposit will not go away. I hate that pot. Yeah.

[01:52:46] I do that when I cook something too long, which is almost every night. Take the meat out, piece by piece, and whatever order it comes. For the blood she shed is in her midst. She poured it on the bare rock.

[01:53:00] She did not pour it on the ground where the dust would cover it. Okay. So, I'm not really sure what this is like. I'm missing the connection here, everything. I get it that's supposed to relate to something, but I'm not really understanding what this means exactly. Yeah.

[01:53:19] I'm not sure either. Maybe I'm just a little dim. I don't know. I'm dim as well. To stir up wrath and take revenge, I put her blood on the bare rock so that it would not be covered. There we go. Oh, you know.

[01:53:33] So maybe I know part of like covering blood might be to keep like animals away. Okay. So like by putting them on the rocks, that would that would display it for people to see and also it would invite animals into further harm and main people.

[01:53:49] So that could be why it's bad maybe. Okay. I'm just I'm just hypothesizing here. I don't know. So I have no idea. Sure. Sorry, I'll let you continue. Alright. Therefore, this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay.

[01:54:03] Well, to the city of Bloodshed, I too will pile the wood high. So he bought the wood and kindle the fire. Cooked the meat well, mixing in the spices and let the bones be charred.

[01:54:15] Then set the empty pot on the coals till it becomes hot and it's copper glows so that its impurities may be melted and it's deposit burned away. It has frustrated all efforts. No scouring pad for you.

[01:54:29] Why the that's kind of a disgusting line there where he's talking about burning them until their impurities fall away. Yeah. Right. Like the impure shell die and then we're supposed to base this on the idea of what God wants. Right?

[01:54:46] God wants this idea of perfectness that he has in his mind which is worshipping him and grovelling to him. And if you aren't that perfect thing, you are impure and deserve to burn and die. Right. That's disgusting. That's awful.

[01:55:03] But also it reminds me of like in Dune where Paul has to stick his hand in the box and they're like, place your hand in the box. Just see if you're pure. Oh okay. All right. I was just trying to see what your how that was really.

[01:55:16] But yeah, okay. You know, to see if you're any good. Yeah. Whatever. Right. It's heavy deposit has not been removed not even by fire. You that's just cooked on for life. I guess. I'm sure impurity is ludeness. That would say the last. Really, really. Pretty fucking lute.

[01:55:35] Well, I mean, but he's been that with last chapter. Yeah. He's really been harping on the ludeness. Mm hmm. Yeah. Because I tried to cleanse you, but you would not be cleansed from your impurity. You will not be clean again until my wrath against you has subsided. Hmm.

[01:55:52] I, the Lord have spoken. The great, awes, has spoken. Okay. The time has come for me to act. I will not hold back. I will not have pity. Nor will I relent. So God does not have pity here. Okay. Because he mad, he big mad. Right.

[01:56:12] You will be judged according to your conduct and your actions. Declares the sovereign Lord. Okay. So now we're starting another section here in this chapter. Yeah. The word of the Lord came to me. You know, as it does all the time. It's a multiple multiple times apparently. Right.

[01:56:28] Son of man. Yeah. You're human. You're fucking warm. With one blow, I'm about to take away from you the delight of your eyes. He's going to take it as wife. Okay. All right. Yet do not lament or weep or shed any tears. Grown quietly.

[01:56:45] Do not mourn for the dead. Keep your turban fastened and your sandals on your feet. Do not cover your mustache and beard or eat the customary food of mourners. Okay. So I spoke to the people in the morning, I was equal. And in the evening, my wife died.

[01:57:03] Oh, okay. That's a bullshit. Yeah. And you're not supposed to cry at all or anything. Just like when Aaron's kids died from picking up the wrong sticks or something and God was like, don't cry. Right. Right. More than them. Yeah.

[01:57:19] The next morning I did as I had been commanded. Then the people asked me, won't you tell us what these things have to do with us? Are you acting like this? Like, aren't you even sad? Your wife just died. I think you murdered her. Probably.

[01:57:33] He murdered his wife. Yeah. That's what happened. They were like, why aren't you sad that your wife is dead? And he's like, oh, because God told me not to cry about it. Right. And the people were like, that doesn't make sense.

[01:57:49] And he was like, no, no, look, look. And then he was like, and then he was like, I'll tell you in a minute. And then he went into his house and he had a little think.

[01:57:58] And then he came out and he was like, so okay, get this, get this. God doesn't want me to mourn because all the people in a Jerusalem are going to die. Right. And that's what happened. Yeah. Yeah. He totally killed his wife. Yeah.

[01:58:15] So I said to them, the word of the Lord came to me again. Some more. Okay. Say to the people of Israel, this is what the sovereign Lord says, I'm about to desecrate my sanctuary, the stronghold in which you take pride, the delight of your

[01:58:31] eyes, the object of your affection. So he's saying I took something from Zikil, the same way that I'm about to take something from y'all. Right. And apparently wife equals entire city and temple. Question mark? I guess, yeah. I mean, he's making that equation, right? Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

[01:58:54] Left behind will fall by the sword. Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's saying that they left them behind. They had a choice in the matter. Right. They were kidnapped. They were. They were. They did not leave them by choice as my understanding. No.

[01:59:11] So I mean, God's plan, this whole thing from the get go, right? Like, I mean, we've been planning this for, I mean, probably a century at least. Right. They seem like if we go all the way back to like Isaiah and stuff like that, we've been kind of

[01:59:22] talking about this for a while, right? So I mean, I don't feel like they hadn't, yeah, there was no choice in the matter. This was going to happen according to God and if we were to believe that these were

[01:59:32] prophecies and they were correct prophecies, then there was no choice in it. Well, he's saying the people you left behind, you know, when you got kidnapped, they're going to die. Hope you're okay with that. Right.

[01:59:45] And you will do as I have done, says a Zeekeel, you will not cover your mustache and beard or eat the customary food of mourners. You will keep your turbines on your heads and your sandals on your feet. Don't lose your hat. Yeah.

[01:59:58] You will not mourn or weep, but will waste away because of your sins and grown among yourselves. This is weird. This is weird. A Zeekeel will be assigned to you. You will do just as he has done when this happens, you will know that I am the

[02:00:15] sovereign Lord. Is that that's what I know? That's what I know. Okay. That's what I know. And you son of man. You're a human. You're a fucking worm. On the day I take away their stronghold, their joy and glory, the delight of their eyes,

[02:00:30] their hearts desire, and their sons and daughters as well. Yeah. On that day, a fugitive will come to tell you the news. At that time your mouth will be opened. He will speak with him and will no longer be silent.

[02:00:43] So you will be assigned to them and they will know that I am the Lord, the end. Okay. Wait. What? I didn't have a whole lot to, I mean that was weird. Yeah. I didn't catch that somebody's coming to talk to them and he's not allowed to talk

[02:01:02] until then. Right? Yeah. Who the fuck's coming to talk to them? Oh no. I'm getting it. Skip a bit. Did we hear? No. No. So who the fuck's coming to talk to them? I don't know. And it didn't mention it in any of my notes.

[02:01:17] So I'm like, what? Interesting. Yeah. I have to like, that's going to have to be a Q&A. Either that or it'll be answered in the next chapter that we read tomorrow. Right. Yeah. This was not as exciting and we follow up to, uh, is he healed 10 for 23?

[02:01:32] Is that what's hoping? No. But it's really weird too that he's like, your wife died. Don't murder. Also, I'm going to kill everybody. Don't run that me either. And then a stranger is going to come and then you can talk about it. Bye. Right. Right.

[02:01:48] And then you can get a minute to be like, oh, how much did he love his wife? Was she nice? Did you do that? Yeah. But I don't understand this. Like, thing, and it was, who was up before the third was Isaiah or Jeremiah that there

[02:02:02] was, no, was Isaiah right? That his wife died or whatever. He wasn't allowed to mourn or something like that or who was that. I was talking about way back when in, um, like, one of the early chapters, like Genesis or, or Leviticus number, like that.

[02:02:19] It was, um, Moses's brother Aaron, Aaron had two of his sons over the same. They weren't allowed to mourn for them. Yeah. That's right. And he wasn't even allowed to cry or nothing. They just had to pretend it never happened.

[02:02:32] I don't really understand this idea of not being able to mourn and why it's a good, like, it's why it's something God wants you to do. Right. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

[02:02:42] Like, morning the dead is one of the things that separates humans from the animals because it's like a community way of helping the past remain alive into the future. And we bond over it. Right. So I'm, I hate the message of don't mourn. Right. Right. Yeah.

[02:03:07] No, I agree. I'm looking forward to the Q&A this week because I'm a little confused after that episode honestly and to be perfectly honest with you. We were doing a live-up so tonight and, like, the internet broke in the middle of it.

[02:03:20] And so I lost my concentration a couple of times. So I'm looking forward to the Q&A because I don't know if I like didn't pick up on something as we're, I wasn't as concentrated as normal tonight as I normally am because of situations in the live stream.

[02:03:35] But, um, hopefully next time the livestream goes, well, much better than tonight because we literally lost the internet like halfway through. Oh, dang I didn't realize that. Yeah, no it was terrible. So I'm sorry. No, it's, I mean, I fixed it. Ish, we're back.

[02:03:50] Sort of, I think, kind of. Um, but anyway, so that was that. Yeah, this was not a successful livestream tonight. But, and it was a shitty chapter on top of that. I'm talking about that. Yeah, I agree. Well, so that was a Zeekeel chapter 24. What was that?

[02:04:07] Which means that we will be back tomorrow with. A Zeekeel chapter 25. Alright, we'll see you guys then. Bye. Bye. How's been? What? Do you remember what we did yesterday and where the hell we are today? Well, yesterday we read a Zeekeel chapter 24. We sure fucked it.

[02:04:29] And in that chapter, God was boiling the droop, droop, the droop, the lights. Yeah, those guys. And Judah, Judah, these are boiling Judah and Jerusalem. The Judeans. The Judeans, yes. There we go. Um, and they were like choice me, whatever, and he's going to boil them.

[02:04:46] And yeah, it was bad. He's going to kill him. And also his wife died or something? Or was that the one who was the Zeekeel? Well, I mean, God was boiling the people in Jerusalem. Yeah. Zeekeel's wife was going to die when that's like a prophecy.

[02:04:59] When this all comes down or whatever. Got it. Which struck me. I thought she died. She died. And then he was like, don't cry about it. According to what I see is that it was they will die. They will die. It was part of the prophecy.

[02:05:15] Yeah, they will die, but she dies first. No, no, no. Nope. She was part of the prophecy. Okay. She will die with Jerusalem when they get attacked. So it was part of the prophecy of, yeah, but he gave the prophecy the day that they got attacked.

[02:05:30] So she died. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You might be right. I apologize. I could be absolutely be wrong there. So I thought it was a prophecy like because we're doing prophecy. Yeah, well, he was in that he's like your wife's going to die.

[02:05:48] And when that happens, don't cry about it because that's going to be what you tell those folks. Right. And then when those folks come around asking you why aren't you crying in shit, then he's like, you're going to get it too. Got it.

[02:06:04] And then he told them that on the same day that Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So before we get in, well, no, that was a, sorry, is he'll, you know what?

[02:06:20] I cut you off before and I'm cutting you off again to tell you why I cut you off before. You were going to say, struck you. Oh, yeah. It struck me that as he kills wife, I don't think has been mentioned thus far and is he killed?

[02:06:34] I don't think so either. And it just struck me as weird that that was like some, you would think if it was something as he killed what have cared about we would have heard about her prior to chapter 24. Yeah. I don't know.

[02:06:46] It just, it feels, and also what does his wife think about when he had to lay on the ground for a year and a half? I still think he murdered her. You think so? Yeah. I think he murdered her. And it could be.

[02:06:55] And then he wrote in why he wasn't mourning. He's kind of crazy. He's very weird. He's got a lot of issues. I think he's psychotic. Probably probably that the fucking eyeballs and the angels and the wheels and that kind of cute me a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:07:11] I don't think he was quite right. Right. Right. So before we hop into what we're doing today, I do want to mention one thing. We're still doing the Patreon push but I've got a new thing that I want, this doesn't require you to spend any extra money.

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[02:07:50] That being said, we just got done with as he killed chapter 24. And today we're getting him into. Asikyo chapter 25. All right. Let's do this. Okie doki. All right. We are hopping into easy Kyle chapter 25. Otherwise known as Azikyo chapter 25.

[02:08:19] And we're going to learn about some prophecies against all these other nations. Oh. Yeah, but it's a really short chapter but there's some interesting stuff in it. So I'm kind of excited about one of the things because it addresses one of your favorite movies. Yeah.

[02:08:36] So this is the thought I actually thought that was next chapter, not this chapter, but that's exciting. So you know what I'm saying? Oh fuck yeah do. Oh okay. Yeah definitely do. Okay.

[02:08:47] I 100% because I look this up well before we ever got like I look this up like I've been looking this up since we started reading the Bible. Well, okay go ahead and tell me what it is. It is from pulp fiction. It is.

[02:08:59] That is what I was going to tell you. Yeah, it is when oh my gosh. It's been years since I've seen the movie now, so but it's when and I'm not prepared because I thought it was next chapter. Right. So but it's when Samuel Jackson is there.

[02:09:13] Jules Winfield. Jules Winfield yeah. Him and what's the Jesus John's revolting. John's revolting. Yeah, yeah. There in the room with the three guys that were like their drug dealers or something like that they had to have the briefcase right.

[02:09:27] Actually he gives that speech that you're about to address three separate times. Does he really? Okay. This is the most memorable one for me. And so he quotes this verse from Izihil as part of his I'm going to shoot you. I'm going to shoot you. I'm killing you.

[02:09:44] I'm going to die. Well, you'll be interested to learn some stuff about this. Yeah. Okay. Sounds great. Yeah. I think I might even when we get to it, we need to like pause for a second.

[02:09:56] So I could like insert because I was playing on that inserting that quote in the middle of the podcast because it to me. It's very relevant. Well, it's like one of my favorite things from that movie and I've seen that movie like a gazillion fucking time. I know.

[02:10:11] So I've only seen it twice. I hated it the first time. I didn't really love it or hate it the second time. But the first time I saw it under like shitty circumstances and that kind of tainted my view of it. Sure.

[02:10:24] And that's why I watched it again with you because I knew how much you loved it. Yeah. And I was like, okay, I see why you love it. But it was still like it was too much for me. Right.

[02:10:32] So I'm like, okay, I'm just in the cool show. It's not for everybody. You know, so I mean, it's Quentin Tarantino. He's not everybody. Yeah. So no, but I get it and I'm glad I rewatched it so that I can get it.

[02:10:43] Do you remember when we were watching, when we went to the movie theater, go watch in glorious bastards? Yes. What happened? There was an old couple there. Yes, there was. Right behind us. And they watched the like when we walked in.

[02:10:57] When we walked in and we saw them, you and I whisper to each other, I wonder if they realized that they know this is Quentin Tarantino and are they prepared. Right. And then they sat through the whole thing and they were like, huh, on the way out.

[02:11:12] They weren't like in love with it. No, no. In fact, they were making comments about it. I don't, that's not historically correct. Yeah. They were there making like all kinds of wrong comments about it. And we're like, it was kind of cute. It was.

[02:11:26] And honestly, I appreciated their take on it because they were coming in kind of like we're coming into the Bible not going. No, no, it's going on. That's fair. They were coming into a Quentin Tarantino movie fresh, not knowing anything about it,

[02:11:41] not knowing anything about him or his film style. Yeah. And so it was kind of cool to hear their take and to be quite fair. They did not critique the style. They did not critique the goofiness in that movie.

[02:11:58] They didn't critique a lot of the like over the top stuff. It was mostly just the historical inaccuracies, which is like the least problematic thing of the movie. Yeah. So well, but at the time, I think they were old enough that when we saw that they might

[02:12:13] have been on the cusp of you and he might have been on the cusp of maybe even haven't been in World War II. Yeah. Sure. He was definitely old enough to have been aware of World War II if not even the age to serve. Right.

[02:12:29] So yeah, they would have had some opinions. For sure, for sure. But they weren't mad. I don't think they were just like that wasn't right. That's not how that went. Right. So I just thought it was interesting. Yeah, definitely.

[02:12:44] Okay, but we're not talking about pulp fiction although we are Lee are yeah. Okay. So let's read this. Ready? Yeah. Guess what happened? Let me hold on. This is going to be a rough one. God talked to Zeekeel problem. Yes, the word of the Lord came to me.

[02:13:00] Zeekeel. Yeah. Son of man. Yeah, me or human. You're fucking warm. Set your face against the amonites. The amonites. Okay. The amonites. And prophecy against them. Okay. We've got three other people we're going to get. I do have a quick question here.

[02:13:15] Why are the amonites going to give two fucks? What does he feel says to them? Okay. So we're going to get there. Okay. Okay. But he's yelling at four specific people for some shitty things that they did. Okay. He just sounds like he likes to ran a lot.

[02:13:30] That's right. He totally does. Okay. So say to them, here the word of the sovereign Lord. This is what the sovereign Lord says. He says I says I says because you said, ha!

[02:13:44] For my sanctuary when it was desecrated and over the land of Israel, when it was laid waste and over the people of Judah, when they went into exile, therefore bitches, I'm going to give you to the people of the East as a possession.

[02:14:00] They will set up their camps and pitch their tents among you. Yeah, they will. So part of his punishment for the Israelites was that they were going to be the scorn and the neighbors were going to mock them and make fun of them. Okay. Thank you.

[02:14:15] But now that the thing that he made happened because he's God, right? Like God makes things happen. This is part of his punishment for his own people that he's enacting. Yes. Now he cares what they're doing and he's going to punish them for it. Yeah.

[02:14:31] Is that where we're going with this? Kind of. Yeah, I'm going to give you a few notes on this. No, I was going to clear it. I'm a little irritated with God in this book in canon because he's kind of a dick and it makes literally no sense.

[02:14:43] No, not at all. So these people they're going to come among you. They're going to live among you. They're going to eat your fruit and drink your milk. I will turn roba into a pasture as a capital city for camels and a mon into a resting

[02:14:59] place for sheep. Then you will know that I am the Lord. For this is what the sovereign Lord says. Hold on. Hold on. I'm grazing in place for camel and a resting place for sheep. That sounds rough.

[02:15:11] It doesn't sound anywhere near as rough as what he says about the. It's a beautiful. Yeah. He has said that's going to be a wasteland and like, you know, they're going to burn and piled up and buy soon and these are important cities.

[02:15:26] And so he's saying that they're going to be basically laid bare and they're going to go to these nomadic Arab tribes. Got it. You're not going to be cities anymore. You're not going to be, you know, hubs.

[02:15:38] You're not going to be like places of trade and quote unquote civilization. Yeah. You're going to be done. You're gone. Your land is going to be agriculture and animals now by. So I mean, to us it sounds like idyllic and like, you know, postcard kind of like,

[02:15:59] oh, that's kind of nice. But for them, that would have been the worst. Right. For this is what the sovereign Lord says, because you have clapped your hands and stomp your feet, rejoicing with all the malice of your heart against the land of Israel.

[02:16:16] Therefore I will stretch out my hand against you and give you as plunder to the nations. I will wipe you out from among the nations and exterminate you from the countries. I will destroy you and you will know that I'm the Lord.

[02:16:29] There's been some really rough language with regard to how they say things here lately. There was something about the pure, something like humor what it was. But like a lot of this stuff feels very Nazi-ish. Yes.

[02:16:48] extermination and like they were talking about like pure, something like it was very, you had to be this one thing where else you were bad, right? I don't like a lot of this talk because I feel like it's been enacted for really heinous things in the past.

[02:17:07] And it could be still in the future. It feels like what is happening to the Palestinians currently, quite honestly. Yeah. Not here for it. So let me just tell you a little bit about what we just read before we move on.

[02:17:22] The amonites were basically punished for gloating maliciously when Judah fell. Okay. And like I said, the land is now going to be occupied by nomadic Arab tribes. Okay. The emanates had taken wicked delay in seeing Jerusalem and it's temple destroyed.

[02:17:39] So now's God going to he's going to give him what. Okay. And they're going to be overrun by the desert tribesmen from the east. Okay. And we'll hear that again as one saying the tribesmen from the east or the people from the east. Okay.

[02:17:54] Who will turn the mon cities into pasture lands for their animals? So that's like what I was saying. Okay. So just to kind of like simplify it, they were happy and let it be known they were happy when Israel fell or when Judah fell. Yeah.

[02:18:10] So God's like fuck you for that. Right. Okay. So whatever. I'm like you were supposed to have got rid of the amonites way back. Right. And if you had it wouldn't have been a fucking issue but whatever. Okay. Now we're moving on to Moab. Okay. Alright.

[02:18:25] This is what the sovereign Lord says because Moab and Sarah said, look. Look. Judah has become like all the other nations therefore I will expose the flink of Moab beginning at its frontier towns. Beth, just shemop. But all meon and Karaya, the glory of that land. Okay.

[02:18:49] I will give Moab along with the amonites to the people of the East as a possession so that the amonites will not be remembered among the nations and I will inflict punishment on Moab then they will know that I'm the Lord. It's really good.

[02:19:04] They were doing anything bad there. He's still talking trash about the amonites. Yeah. And also fuck Moab. Just while we're out of it, I'm going to take care of Moab. Right. So basically what happened Moab is being punished for gloting and stating that Judah is like all

[02:19:18] other nations which is considered to be an insult to Yahweh. Fuck you. They are Moab's another nation, right? Right. They don't fucking care that Yahweh cares of whatever. Like any nation wouldn't say that. So I know, I totally agree with you.

[02:19:35] They thought that God was powerless to protect his temple from devastation. So they're like act was a little more agriges. The amonites were just like ah, y'all fell. Whereas Moab was like ah, y'all fell and your God sucks. He's so fucking weak. Got it.

[02:19:56] And so therefore similar to Imon the land of Moab is going to be given to those same tribes. Okay. So it's basically like they pissed me off where Sunniude did because I'm a petty little fuck. And I worry about my image. Yeah. You didn't just laugh at them.

[02:20:14] But in the past, he's cared what they think of them. You know, like these neighbors that he's talking about whatever. He's I don't want them to think I'm evil. And now he's like, you know what? I don't care. I will kill you. Right. Right. But not me.

[02:20:27] I just I don't. But not all these years. He could have dealt with Egypt the same way. But instead he's doing what these little tribes. Well, it's because it's about political and military power, right? Yeah. That's nothing to do with a God. No, really.

[02:20:40] The actual politics on the ground and the reality that they're living in. But that's what I'm saying. Like these little, itty, bitty, it comparatively speaking, right? These little, itty, bitty places. He's like, okay, I'm going to decimate you.

[02:20:54] Like if you actually gave a shit about your people, why were you allowing these powerful nations Babylon, a Syrians, Egypt, you know, came, came in and I, it's like all of that, right? Right. Tell the end. Thank you. Chalance.

[02:21:13] Like all of these huge powerful forces, these nations, you were too weak to knock them down because you aren't real, right? So like, but that goes against the story. You know what I'm trying to say?

[02:21:28] Like if you really gave a shit about your people, quote unquote, God, why did you allow these giant nations to kick your people around and why is your show of force? Only can see these little guys. Well, not only that, these nations have been building for centuries, right?

[02:21:45] They haven't, it's not like they just popped up overnight and became superpowers. They're basically cousins too. Right. Right. But there was a long history of them getting to that point. They were much more successful than the Israelites. Why were they much more successful than the Israelites?

[02:22:04] Probably because they did things better or had more resources or I don't know. If you want to talk about magic, they're God seemed to be better. Yeah, sure. Whatever. Their idols were better as well as sounds like me.

[02:22:17] Like they didn't maybe have a fear the Lord and suck his dick thing going on. Sure. They just had a, you know, sing to your little statue and fuck on the hills and occasionally burn a baby. Boy, when you think about ancient gods, right? Hold on, hold on.

[02:22:31] I said occasionally burn a baby and like I expected you to laugh or respond just to be clear no child sacrifice. Yeah, yeah. Don't tell them. Sorry. That's not good. Yeah, yeah. Go on. Sorry. I was already in my thought training. So I have all the days.

[02:22:50] Yeah, so I don't remember what I was going to say now. It was I think that the gods of, oh, when you think about ancient gods, you don't think about Yahweh. Right. Like I know that they are in that same timeframe back then.

[02:23:06] Like you think of Egyptian gods or Greek gods and all this stuff, right? It's the Syrian gods. Those are the ancient gods that you think of, right? At least to me looking in from the outside. Yeah. Right. Like that's how I always envisioned it.

[02:23:19] Christianity and to be fair, I never really knew much about Judaism, right? So but Christianity to me always seemed like this newer, yeah. And if it is, it is. It is. And then Judaism was newer compared to the ancient gods because all they did was combine

[02:23:39] some of the ancient shit. Sure, yeah. No, it's true. But I don't even throw them in the same mix. No. No. The god of Yahweh. I don't put him in that ancient god realm. Right. It didn't really become a thing for, I don't know.

[02:23:54] It just doesn't strike me the same way. And I know that that's probably our Western culture and who you know, we grew up around Christians. So we only learned Christianity, right? And our subset of the world. Sure. So that's probably just my vantage point.

[02:24:09] But from where I'm sitting, it doesn't seem like Yahweh was around at the same time Thor was, you know? Right. Right. So yeah. But there was some overlap. Yes, there was overlap, but it was towards the end of one before it was the beginning of the other one.

[02:24:25] Not necessarily. Like there was the Christianity didn't take hold in the word. Are you talking about Christianity or Judaism? Right. But Christianity took hold from the ancient Roman gods. So there were still Roman worshiping Roman gods up until Christianity. Right. No, I get that.

[02:24:46] But what I'm saying is at the beginning. Like from the beginning Yahweh wasn't around yet. You know what I mean? Right. That's what I meant, not at the same time. Okay. Like first came like the Greek gods, even before Rome was the Greek gods. Sure.

[02:25:04] And you know, the like Zeus and Thor and all them like them people. Right. And then came the Roman gods from the Greeks. Right. Rome took over that area. Sure. And Yahweh was kind of kicking it, but he was not like super big.

[02:25:24] He was not like, he was just like one of many. Yeah. And we've taught, he's a very regional god. Yeah. So yeah, early on for sure. Yeah. So all right. Well, we're about to get it against the edomites. Okay. Okay. Right. This is what the sovereign Lord says.

[02:25:41] Is it? Mm-hmm. Because Eidon took revenge on Judah and became very guilty by doing so. Therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says. I will stretch out my hand against Eidon and kill both man and mother fucking beast. Oh.

[02:25:59] I will lay it waste and from Timon to daydend, they will fall by the sword. I will take vengeance on Eidon by the hand of my people Israel and they will deal with Eidon and accordance with my anger and my wrath.

[02:26:13] They will know my vengeance to clear the sovereign Lord. By the hand of his people from Israel, whatever that doesn't how they're in exile, they are around. I don't know. But here, let me read you my little assurances. Yeah.

[02:26:27] The harsh punishment is for having betrayed the agreement with Judah to fight against Babylon. So they had made this agreement, right? Okay. And they were going to help them and then they instead became a Babylonian ally taking Judean lands in the negab. Oh.

[02:26:42] The Jews themselves will be God's instrument and punishing Eidon. And I'm not sure how that supposed to happen, how that came about. That would have to be at least 70 years later. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That didn't happen by them right away. I know. Right. Perfect. Yeah.

[02:27:01] So couldn't have gone on anything about that, but that's what they're mad about. Okay. And that makes sense. And I like that because it's showing that there was a bunch of political maneuvering things going on. Yes. And it tracks with everything we've read. You know?

[02:27:15] Like if you read between the lines, you can catch this is politics. This is not a God. It's fucking politics. It's always politics. Yeah. Okay. Now we're moving finally against the Philistines. Okay. Yep. This is what the sovereign Lord says because the Philistines acted in vengeance and took

[02:27:32] revenge with malice in their hearts. And with ancient hostility sought to destroy Judah, therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. I'm about to stretch out my hand against the Philistines and I will wipe out the caratheites and destroy those remaining along the coast. Okay.

[02:27:51] And then I'll tell you the people in the islands. Yeah, yeah. That's these folks. Okay. I will carry out great vengeance on them and punish them in my wrath. Then they will know that I am the Lord when I take vengeance on them. The end.

[02:28:03] Wait, where was the? Yeah, we're getting there. We're getting there. Okay. Yeah. So let me read you about the Philistines a little bit and then we'll get there. Okay. Okay. So the Philistines were they were ancient enemies of Israel from way back. Yeah.

[02:28:18] And they're said to have come originally from the islands of the Aegean Sea, including Greek. That's what I said. No, it's not. It's the Aegean. No, it's a G. Aegean? Okay. Sorry. Including Crete and are called the caratheites or charatheites and that's interpreted as the Crete. Okay. Okay.

[02:28:39] Yep. And they are being punished because of their vicious treatment against Judah and they too will cease to be a nation. Got it. Okay. That's Reed verse 17 again. Sure. Okay. I will carry out great vengeance on them and punish them in my wrath.

[02:28:54] Then they will know that I am the Lord when I take vengeance on them. Sounds similar to them, that's it. I guess that's it. Yeah, that's it. Okay. So like let me before. Okay. Go ahead. Let me read this little bit about that. Sure. Okay.

[02:29:12] So in the 1994 film Pope fiction, which we discussed at the beginning of the day, getting at this episode, right. Character jewels when filled, rich woolly recites what is stated as a Zekeel 25 17 before he execute someone. The passage is heard three times throughout the film.

[02:29:31] The final two sentences of his speech are similar to the actual sighted passage, which is based on the King James version. I wondered. But the first two are fabricated from various biblical phrases. And did should we play it? Should we play that clip right here? We can.

[02:29:50] I had also copied the. Well, I want to clip it in. Okay. You clip it in. Let's play it right here. Okay. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

[02:30:08] Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will. Sheppards the weak through the value of darkness. Well, he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger.

[02:30:28] Those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord. When I lay my vengeance upon thee. One of the places that Quentin Tarantino got this inspiration for this speech was from a super old martial arts film. And there's a dude.

[02:30:57] He loves martial arts. He does. Kill Bill much. Right, yeah. Yeah. So there's a guy and I didn't copy this in here. But I forget there's a character in one of these films. Okay. And his name is like, Chibi something or other.

[02:31:12] And he says much like what Joel says in Pulp fiction. He says the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the little block. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger.

[02:31:28] Those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Chibi whatever. When I lay my vengeance upon thee. Wow. Yeah. So that came from and then he mixed in some Bible quotes through in it's Ezekiel verse chapter 25 verse 17.

[02:31:51] Sure, it's kind of funny because like it's almost like a joke. It's almost a joke. It's almost a joke. Because like he's literally giving ready to kill people when he says this. And so it's poking fun at the ridiculousness of God. Yes.

[02:32:12] Just by saying that phrase and I think that's what I love so much about that phrase that he says in that movie. It's like yes, this is how ridiculous your God is. He's using this wording in the Bible to then turn around and fucking murder people.

[02:32:29] He is talking about vengeance which is one of the least Christian attributes. And yes, I know we are not at the New Testament yet. But we are supposed to be learning about this God who is a loving God.

[02:32:45] And he is a very jealous God which is said more than once. He's a vengeful God. Yeah. He's just horrible. He's a horrible being. Yeah. And that is not who I would choose as my local deity.

[02:33:02] No, and the funny thing to me also is that in that movie, Paul fiction specifically the part where he's there in the room with the three guys they're getting the suitcase. That at one point some kid comes around a corner and unloads a gun at him, right?

[02:33:17] And he misses. Like he's got six bullets in the chamber. Misses all six times. Nobody is shot. Right. And after murdering three people to recover a suitcase for his boss, jules decides that he has found God. Right. Why? Because he didn't get killed. Right.

[02:33:39] After he just murdered three people. Yeah. That was God telling him a message. And to me, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah. Fucking hilarious. Yeah. Right. I'm like, you know, this is great. Okay. It's great. It's great. It's great commentary. Right. It's great commentary. Yeah. It's a great statement.

[02:33:59] Right. And it basically is like, yep, this is what it be. Right. What I also appreciate is that and I know this has been talked at Nasi and about this film. Sure. It's all for this magical suitcase that none of us ever find it.

[02:34:15] This briefcase has a MacGuffin. Yeah. What it's called in the writing world. And we never have to know what's in it. And that is both the most important and the most hilarious part of that story. Yeah.

[02:34:30] Because at the same time that it's like making fun of religion, it's also making fun of the heroes journey. Yeah. You know, from a writing stance, it's like it doesn't even fucking matter. Right.

[02:34:43] Like, okay, I'm just going to go off a little bit here just because I'm like working on outlining stuff. And one of the screenplays that I'm studying is Casa Blanca. Yeah. And the MacGuffin in that film is these transit papers that like totally did not exist. Okay.

[02:35:00] And when the writers were putting this movie together, they were like, this is never going to fly with American audiences because this was like right, like during the heat up to World War II that this movie came out. Sure.

[02:35:15] So they were, you know, trying to capture the feeling and at the time studios were putting out these films like one after the other. Just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, trash, right? Right. Like whatever sticks to the wall.

[02:35:26] So they just expected that Casa Blanca would not be that great as success, particularly with the MacGuffin of these magical transit papers signed by this upady upady whoever you want to be able to do that. And so, you know, that's what I'm saying.

[02:35:41] And so, you know, that can't be questioned. Right. And these actors just sell it. Like it's, of course this is true. Right. And so that's like, to me that when I learned that background about Casa Blanca and the writers, that is to me what that briefcase is. Sure.

[02:35:58] And, you know, just kind of like, I don't like Quentin Tarantino as a human being. No. And he's just a despicable person. Yeah. But you cannot deny some of his genius. And filmmaking and tearing apart a story. Yeah. And putting it back together. Absolutely true.

[02:36:15] It's one of those, again, separating the artists from the art. Right. Right. Yeah. All right. That all we got for today. That's all we got for today. I think that was more than enough for a short of chapter as it was. We went all over the fucking beach.

[02:36:29] Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. When wife says by you will know that our name is sacriletist discourse. But... Wait. Do you know what we're doing today? Well, we are a little bit late getting this out and I apologize. But today is Sunday, but we're... No, no, no.

[02:36:57] We're recording a Saturday night. And it's really early on a Sunday morning, actually. Okay, just because it's after midnight, doesn't make it not Saturday night. I mean, technically it does. No, it's Saturday. Because we're doing Q&A Saturday. And I say it Saturday night. All right.

[02:37:17] So, we're doing Q&A today. What are we Q&A in? We are going over a Zeekeel. I almost said Jeremiah. A Zeekeel chapters 21, no. 20 through 25. 21 through 25. Okay. Are you sure? Yes. Okay.

[02:37:38] I was looking at a thing and that threw me off because it had different numbers than what my brain is. Ah, okay. So, my eyes and my brain were doing different things. So, the Zeekeel chapters 21 through 25. That is correct.

[02:37:51] And are you ready to go ahead and get into this? Or do you want to tell us a little bit about what we're doing? Of course, just. What? Ha ha ha. All right. Let's do this. Okay, okay. All right. We are doing our Q&A over a Zeekeel.

[02:38:14] That is 21 through 25. All right. And yes, we are going to discuss horses or at least horse dick. Okay. But before we do that. Before the horse dick and horse jess. Yeah. Let us let us step back a minute because that's not till chapter 24 I think. Okay.

[02:38:35] So, we had a vague question in chapter 29. I'm sorry. One. Yep. I'm so sorry. My brain and my mouth are not connected today. Okay. So, chapter 21. Uh-huh. Remember was called the sword song or the prophecy of the sword? The song of the sword I thought? Yeah. Okay.

[02:38:56] Because it's the sword of the Lord. Right. Right. Yeah. So, there was a part. The sword that we read versus nine and ten. Okay. Because we kind of had a question about it. Sure. Son of man. Yeah. Me or a human? You're fucking warm. Right.

[02:39:13] Prophecy and say this is what the Lord says. A sword, a sword, sharpened and polished. Sharpened for this slaughter. A polished a flashlight lightning. Shall we rejoice in the septer of my royal son. The sword despises every such stick. Okay.

[02:39:29] So, I have a question like what does he mean royal son and like septer and stick? And we kind of figured, oh, he's probably talking about the puppet king or whatever. Right. But we weren't for sure and we just kind of glossed over it. Yeah. We're like whatever.

[02:39:44] Sure. So, yeah. The son here probably does refer to the current ruler of Judah, you know, at that point. Sure. Sure. Sure. And it but it also might have referred to the nation itself. God is. Because his royal city or whatever is about to go down.

[02:40:03] Unless he doesn't like them then it's a horror. Yeah. It's a royal horror. God sort of judgment had no regard for Zedakaya's right to reign, which was Zedakaya's Scepter. Okay. Sure. And I like how they say God but actually, you know, as he killed wrote this hypothetically

[02:40:25] And, you know, we have no corroboration as to whether God was actually involved or not other than you know, Zikil's word. You got to take Zikil's word for it because. Yeah. I just want to make sure I said that because it's someone that got stapled into the book.

[02:40:38] That's why. Yes. So, I thought this was kind of interesting. Somebody had written, the spicing, the king of Judah, the sword of Babylon would turn Judah's chapter into nothing but a stick. Okay. So, the sword of Babylon though, which I know is God using Babylon as his sword.

[02:41:00] But that mother fucker back in Genesis. He just conjured up some goddamn swords to swing back and forth in front of the garden of Eden. And now he has to use some other fucking people that aren't even his own to bring a sword against this people.

[02:41:16] I just feel like this is a weak ass, God. You know, if he is a God, he's fucking piece of shit. Yeah. Definitely got some power over the years. Right? Yeah. Just magic though. I'm not impressed. You know? I'm not impressed. You know? I'm coming either.

[02:41:31] So then moving on in the same chapter to verse 26. This is what the sovereign Lord says. Take off the turban, remove the crown. Okay. And we didn't really ask anything about that but we was kind of like, okay, whatever.

[02:41:44] The turban or as it's sometimes also called a mitre and ITER. Sure. Was the headdress of the high priest, the crown of course belonged to the king. And priesthood and royalty were usually very closely related in Israel. Yeah.

[02:42:01] And so now they would both be set aside and all the emblems of royalty and leadership would be removed from Zedakaya. Okay. Which I mean, yeah that makes sense. Yeah. I just like kind of clearing it up. Sure. Sure.

[02:42:17] But I mean, you know, the point that I would make there is that that would track whether we were talking about a God or any invading force honestly because the invading force is going to take out the leadership before it takes out the common people.

[02:42:28] There is no use in taking out the common people unless you're using them for slaves or whatever. Yeah. You know, we're just getting them out of the way because you can't support them. And you're doing it and you know what I mean? Yeah.

[02:42:38] The king and the priest and the higher up leaders, those are the ones that you have to worry about causing problems for you. Right. So obviously any time anybody is destroying another nation, they're going to be one of the first to go because that's just how it works.

[02:42:53] Obviously. Yeah. Okay. So that finishes up chapter 21. Sure. We didn't have any questions or an I didn't have any notes for chapter 22. And I was mistaken. It wasn't chapter 24 that had the horse jizz in it. It's chapter 23. Yeah.

[02:43:11] That's a bit of a longer one because I have two really good notes for that that I'm just going to put aside for a minute. So we're going to skip chapter 23 and come back to it and come back to it. Okay.

[02:43:21] Because I don't want to do like awesome one and then be like, oh yeah. You got to leave the cliff hanging already. You got to leave the horse jizz for last obviously. Obviously. Yeah. So let's put that.

[02:43:31] Let's put a pin at that and then move on to chapter 24. Or maybe a condom on it. Let's put a condom on that and move on to chapter 24. Sure. Okay. So I'm going to read verses 26 and 27. Okay.

[02:43:42] On that day, a fugitive will come to tell you the news. We will wait. 26 and 27 from what versus chapter 24. I literally said, I'm sorry. I missed I apologize. I missed that. Could it play is good? Well, I was caught up in horse jizz.

[02:43:56] I know you were caught up in horse jizz. Okay. So chapter 24 versus 26 and 27. Okay. On that day, a fugitive will come to tell you the news. At that time, your mouth will be open. You will speak with him and will no longer be silent.

[02:44:12] And we were like, who the fuck? What do you mean? Yeah, that was weird because it was right at the end of the chapter. And it ended off that way. And we're like, what is going on there today? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[02:44:23] So when someone escapes from Jerusalem and then arrives among the captives, that person will inform them of the destruction of the city, the temple, the royal family and all the people at large. Okay.

[02:44:33] And that's when they will know for sure, like, oh fuck me, a sickle was telling us the true. Okay. And so until that moment, is he guilty of my suppresses tears and limitations for his wife having died? Okay. Then they're asking him what's up.

[02:44:52] And he's like, because where's I love him, miss my wife? Yeah. Y'all are going to be feeling it so much worse. And y'all are going to be feeling it so bad that he none of us going to be crying

[02:45:03] because we're all going to be trying to figure out how the fuck we're going to deal with this. And they're like, whatever dude. And he's like, no, I'm telling you, Jerusalem is going down. And they're like, what I heard?

[02:45:16] And again, I know we talked about this a lot during Jeremiah because we thought he was a double agent, right? Yeah. But even with a Zikil, right? The priests of Israel or Judah were higher up people.

[02:45:31] And if Babylon was capturing them, they might have had a higher place even amongst the captives, right? With regard to how they related to higher up people. Clearly they did because a Zikil had his own house and the prisoner elders came to visit him. Yeah.

[02:45:49] So even if he wasn't collaborating with Babylon, he might have had insider information. True. You know, like, he might have known they were going to go fuck up, you know, give him that day or whatever. Exactly.

[02:45:58] So I don't, I don't know that this is a big shock that he was aware that this was going to happen. No, I don't know. It's always politics. Again, there's no way that there's no way to know any of this and we just have to take them.

[02:46:10] These people who we know nothing about from thousands of years ago, right. We have to take their quote unquote word. And even at that, that's been translated so many different times through so many different languages. That we can't possibly have any inkling as to what they actually meant.

[02:46:26] Right. We have to take that as fact if we want to believe in God. Yeah. And I, that's crazy. It's crazy. That's silly. Yeah. It's foolish. Agreed. So he's saying that somebody is going to escape from Jerusalem and come up and tell them. Right.

[02:46:46] And that until then he has to be quiet and he can't mourn his wife or nothing. I guess that makes a little bit more sense sort of sort of well, there's a little bit more. I wasn't quite finished. He murdered his wife.

[02:46:57] I mean, that's my theory, but no, that's not what I was getting right right. We're going to learn in a future chapter. Yeah. Probably not. No, it won't be this coming week and might be the week after my math is really. Sure. Okay.

[02:47:12] So in like a couple of weeks, we're going to learn in one of those chapters that a person actually does escape from Jerusalem and then informs the prophet and his fellow captives that the city was smashed. Okay. So that's a thing that will happen.

[02:47:25] Is he he'll wrote about a prophet prophecy that was going to happen and then the prophecy happened. And so yeah, he's right in his own book. Yeah, you know the Lord. He wrote his own prophecy that he wrote that his prophecy that he predicted was correct. Yeah. Wow.

[02:47:40] Right. Exactly. But I mean, at least somebody addressed our question like, what's your name? I mean, who the fuck? I don't understand. Somebody's going to come. What? Yeah. So now we know. Sure. Okay. So okay. That's it for chapter 24. Now we're moving on to chapter 25. Okay.

[02:47:58] And I'm going to read verses eight and nine. Sure. Okay. This is what the sovereign Lord says because Moab and Seer said, look, Judah has become like all the other nations therefore I will explode, expose, explode.

[02:48:13] The flink of Moab beginning at its frontier towns Beth, just shimoth, bow all meon and Karaya Tham, the glory of that land. Okay. So I just like put together a little reminder of how the Moabites are kind of related as cousins. Right. Okay.

[02:48:34] The ancestor of Moab came from the incestuous pairing of lot and his daughter. Okay. Remember when she did a hop-on pop? Yep. Yep. And then the Moabites feared Israel as they came from Egypt towards Canaan in the book of Numbers

[02:48:48] and the lock King of Moab hired Baylon to curse Israel. Yeah, I remember that happened. That was one of my favorite early on chapters with another donkey. That's another donkey. Right. That one spoke didn't come. Yeah.

[02:49:02] We weren't talking about his dick and we were talking about his fucking mouth movement. Right. Israel came into Canaan sometimes Moab attacked him ruled over them even. And that was in the book of judges. Okay. Okay.

[02:49:18] And then later, Ruth the Moabite was the great grandmother of King David and David sent his parents to Moab for their own protection when Saul was hunting him in first Samuel.

[02:49:29] I feel like one might even like in those days if you were Egypt or Babylon might even confuse them all as Israelites. Yeah. They're not even like they seem very, very closely related. Very incestuously closely added. Yeah. Yeah. They're just like different states, right? Yeah.

[02:49:46] This one operates a little differently over here than that one does. It's a bit different. And obviously Israel was also worshiping idols so and sacrificing children. So there wasn't a lot of like, there wasn't a cultural difference between them. They were like all frenemies. Right.

[02:50:00] They're like, I hate you so much. Stop touching me. No, stop breathing on me. And then they're like, oh fuck, but we should really ganged up together because of Egypt's comment. Right.

[02:50:11] But the only reason that was the case is because the Moabite's probably had a different king than Judah did or Israel did or whatever. Right? It had to do again with politics not so much culture. Exactly. Exactly.

[02:50:24] So when he was King David fought against and defeated Moab in second Samuel and they became a vessel kingdom to Israel sometimes. We're a couple of times we're a belly in second King. Yes, I remember there was a lot of back. Yeah. Yeah. It was back and forth.

[02:50:38] Right. But I just, I kind of needed that reminder of how they were related. Sure. And then you know, like, why's God going off on this group? Like, I don't give a fuck about these people who are they again now? I mean, does God really need a reason.

[02:50:51] God just goes off on people. He's, you know, there you go. God go off. You know, it's the, that's his thing. Right. It's true.

[02:50:59] The other one that we mentioned Moab and Sierra, Sierra was a notable city of the Edamites who were also cousins to Israel being the descendants of Jacob's twin brother, Issa. Right. Okay. That's how they're related.

[02:51:16] And Issa was the one that wrestled God in the desert I believe either God or the angel of the Lord or. Right. But wrestled something in the desert that some people think is God. Yeah. And obviously isn't true, but in the Bible whatever, you know. Yeah.

[02:51:32] And there are giants. You know, sure. All right. So now we're going to go back to chapter 23. All right. Okay. I've got a few different things. Okay. Uh-huh. So we're going to start with verse four of chapter 23.

[02:51:46] The older sister was named a hola and her sister was a hola. Okay. They were mine. God's and gave birth to sons and daughters. A hola is Samaria and a hola is Jerusalem. Okay. So a hola, okay. Now I'm done reading. Okay. Now I'm in to my note.

[02:52:05] Yeah. Okay. A hola Samaria means her own tabernacle, meaning that she rejected that city, that sister rejected God's temple and the service that attended it. Okay. That word literally transmites to her own tabernacle. Got it. Which that's what Samaria did. They were like, no.

[02:52:26] Like God's tabernacle was not in Samaria. Right. I got it. That's what they're saying she had her own. They decided they could do it without the tabernacle, essentially. Exactly. Even though the tabernacle stop being mentioned at some point, way long ago. Exactly.

[02:52:40] Um, I don't know if you were called to those in Samaria. Um, I forget which king it was that was like, oh my god. I totally love that guy's alter on totally going to build one of my own at home.

[02:52:53] What was this? It was it was in one of the um, kings or kings or something. Yeah. Yeah. It was one of the kings decided that yeah, yeah. I remember that. I thought it was Solomon actually maybe. It wasn't Solomon. It wasn't Solomon. It was like,

[02:53:10] Who has or, I don't know, who, I have whatever, who cares. It doesn't really matter. I know it wasn't Solomon and I know this because I almost put this in my notes and did it. Is it Jehoa who knows? Is who knows. Yes. Okay. So that's Samaria. Okay.

[02:53:29] Yeah. Hold on means her own tabernacle. Got it. Okay. A whole abach Jerusalem means my tabernacle is in her. Okay. And that's because she was home to God's temple and it service. Sure. So that's why those sisters had those. Very straightforward names, you know. Yeah.

[02:53:47] But the tabernacle was not still there. Right. Like what happened was Samaria was called nose ghost. Right. And that Jerusalem was called to somebody else, please. Yeah. All right. So now we're going to read verse 14, 15 and 16. Okay. Which I said verse, but I meant verses. Yeah. Has plural.

[02:54:11] Right. But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall. Figures and we had a question about that. Yeah. Figures of Chaldeans portrayed in red with belts around their waist and flowing Turbins on their heads.

[02:54:25] All of them look like Babylonian chariot, officers, natives of Chaldea. Okay. So when she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. Okay. And we were like the fuck. Yeah. So that was basically like their town poster board like Facebook of the day.

[02:54:44] Okay. Yeah. So base reliefs like statues and carvings and walls and stuff. Yeah. We're common decorations and Mesopotamian palaces and temples. And so that's how they like told stories and past legends on. And so they saw these things and we're like, I want that city.

[02:55:07] I want those gods. Got it. That is what I want. So like some traveler might have come through and like drop this. Yeah. Travel pamphlet. Travel tablet. Yeah. As a door to door, it was a job of his witness. Come visit Chaldea. Yeah. Spray this time of year.

[02:55:26] Yeah. Exactly. You'll love the horses in the men on them. It's going to be great. It's going to be great. So that took me to something else though. There's this thing called the black obelisk of Shalmenasar III. Wow. That's a fancy ass name for something. Yeah. That's great.

[02:55:48] I like it. Okay. It's a black limestone, neocerian sculpture with many carved scenes and inscriptions in relief. Have you ever been around a lot of sandstone? You're seeing sandstone up close when you're out in the wild? No. It's really cool rock. Okay.

[02:56:07] It's really, I used to love rocks. Oh, I just thought it was. This is a sandstone. This is limestone. Yeah, it's similar. Similar. Similar. ish. So I think I could be wrong but I think they're similar. I have no idea.

[02:56:20] It's like sediment stone is what it boils down to. So well this one is a giant like cylinder shaped thing and it's got carvings all around it. Okay. Okay. And it's historically significant because it is thought to display the earliest ancient depiction of a biblical figure. Mm hmm.

[02:56:42] J. Who at the time the king of Israel prostrating himself before the a Syrian king and offering gifts? Okay. The date picture would be about eight forty B.C.E. At the beginning of J. Who's rain. So this is an actual historical thing that exists.

[02:57:00] I did not get this off well, okay. Let me rephrase that. I was doing my notes. You know how I examine many sources from many different perspectives. I was on an apologous site and they mentioned this and I was like, hold up what? Right.

[02:57:13] And so then I was like, is this really a thing or is this talking about the right? So then that's how I rabbit hole. Right. Is I verify things. Yeah. Right. And no, this I got this from an actual source. Sure. It is currently in a museum. Okay.

[02:57:30] Let me finish my notes. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, the picture on the thing is from the beginning of J. Who's rain? About eight forty B.C.E. The object comes from Nimrud, which is located in northern Iraq and commemorates the

[02:57:45] deeds of King Shalmanazir III, which is why it's called that. Right. Who rained about eight fifty eight to eight twenty four B.C.E. Okay. And it is on display currently at the British Museum in London and several other museums have cast replicas of it.

[02:58:05] It really sounds like we're going to have to make a trip over to Europe at some point. Right. Just to see some of this, like the biblical, you know, historical items that do exist. Right. It would be really cool to like look, I don't believe it.

[02:58:20] I don't believe in God, but I love history. Yeah. And like this aspect of it where you actually have Reminance of that time that are still in existence. Right. And like you're talking about thousands of years ago. Right. That's why I had to include that. Yeah.

[02:58:39] That's pretty fucking amazing. So we've got basically proof that these two guys at least existed. Right. And B not only did they exist, but this particular part of that story is correct. That this guy did go over and prostrate himself to an Assyrian king.

[02:59:02] Now, I do want to say with regard to that, and then we're us talking about the historoste of these items. Mm-hmm. And that's that a lot of theist Christians that I've come across will point to the fact that some of the things in the Bible

[02:59:17] Did actually happen historically. And they had been proven to happen historically. And they're there for, right. The Bible is true obviously, right? But that's so foolish because I could go on Facebook or any number of websites and say,

[02:59:34] Oh, well, I found something that said that the moon is made out of cheese. Yeah. That doesn't mean that the moon is made out of cheese, y'all.

[02:59:42] No, you and I know that just the the mere fact of an artifact existing with regard to something that happened in the Bible does not make the Bible true. Right.

[02:59:51] It's merely an artifact that represents something from that timeframe and lens to the fact that there are aspects of the Bible that might have some truth to them. Right. And legends do grow up around people. I mean, think about like, who is it?

[03:00:06] Washington and the the fucking apple tree or something? Cherry tree. Cherry tree. Yeah. He's like, I cannot tell a liar whenever. Right. Like, um, Lincoln and the wooden teeth. There's something like that. The wooden teeth was George Washington. Oh, was it? Yeah. Okay.

[03:00:25] I'm trying to remember which one is with. I think Washington was the cherry tree but there is. There is some thing associated with Lincoln too and I can't remember. I can't remember now what it is.

[03:00:35] The only thing I can think of as I'm sitting here is he's got a really tall fucking hat. And you know, all supposedly for the times. He was our civil war president and. And he got shot in a theater.

[03:00:44] You know, he got the 14th amendment through and he got shot in a theater. He got a kill him was named forward but I can't think of what the. His party was called the Republicans at the time so now the Republicans are like,

[03:00:54] Yeah, they played the we set the slaves free and I'm like, Wait, but you know what? They try to claim Martin Luther King Jr. To. I see every time I'm like, get his name out to him else. Like, what the fuck? Fucking liar. Yeah. Yeah.

[03:01:12] Okay, so now we're coming up on the horses. Mm-hmm. All right. So let's hit verse 20. Okay. There she listed after her lovers. Genitals were like those of donkeys and who's a mission was like that of horses. Wow. Mm. Yeah, good stuff. Okay.

[03:01:31] So I was like the fuck is happening here. Right. Yeah. So first of all, only apologists. I can't wait. Like, can you imagine your job is being an apologist and then you're like, oh fuck. Aziz killed chapter 23. What the. Okay. God damn it.

[03:01:49] I did not record any of it because it's whatever. Yeah. Nothing good to say except for yes, this was very course language. It was meant to be shocking. Oh, of course. Yeah.

[03:02:00] We're not supposed to use this type of language in our general discourse or even as a sermon. It was meant to be shocking at the time. And I'm like, right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And also they were like, I don't know whatever. Right.

[03:02:17] They were just like a Paul and they were like, you should never. Yeah. Yeah. And we don't talk about that. Right. And stuff like that. Yeah. And that's your fucking problem. Not that I want to talk about horses. I don't. But it's in your book. Yeah.

[03:02:34] And really is that most, you know, churches that you go to, I shouldn't say most. There are a lot of churches that people go to that if you start asking questions, they're going to think less of you. Right.

[03:02:46] You know, like it's not a good thing in Christianity and general. Right. To ask a lot of questions, right? Yeah. You get, you get shunned. You get looked down upon. You might even get cast out at some level.

[03:02:58] Even though like you could believe in all your heart and your light, but I want to understand. Right. I'm trying to get closer to God. I want to, you guys keep telling me this is his word and you could be like in all earnestness. Yeah.

[03:03:11] And you could actually feel whatever it is that fucking believer's feel. Sure. Yeah. I've never felt it, but people do, I guess, whatever. Well, I mean, I think, and we've talked about that before too. And in a group of people who are all very, very,

[03:03:24] favorantly believing in this one thing, this God, this, this idea. And they act as though it's real all together. Right. It creates this like confirming circle of circle of, Uplifting bullshit, right? And they're all like, yeah, it all exists and the reason that it all exists is because

[03:03:44] the next person next to them says it all exists. And that reason person's reason is because the person next to them says it all exists. Right. You know, so on and so forth. Yeah. It's just a ever confirming circle of BS.

[03:03:54] I call it a circle jerk of belief. Yeah, I like that. I'm sorry. I should have, I should have stopped. But I was in the middle of a rant. I couldn't stop. I was going forward with it.

[03:04:04] So I was like, okay, get the fuck out of here without that. Yeah. And then they said something that like, me, me, stop because they were like, blah, blah, blah symbolism and I was like, yeah. Oh, hang on. Okay. Okay. Hold on.

[03:04:18] So the horse has been associated with numerous roles and magical gifts throughout the ages and in all regions of the world. Okay. Sure. Making it the most symbolically charged animal along with a snake. Okay. Which is in snakes. Sure. Okay. Yeah.

[03:04:37] And you know, when you start talking about like what's so symbolic about horses, then you get into like mayors, nightmares, dreams. Yeah. You get into like the Greek and Roman stuff like fucking Pegasus and unicorn and, you know, all that stuff. I mean, how can you not?

[03:04:53] How could it not have been one of the biggest symbols in our history? Because it's a fucking giant beast with hair. Yeah. That's gorgeous. Like by all rights, they're beautiful animal. You know, some people don't, I think you've equally look like a fucking alien.

[03:05:06] They do because they have triangle shape heads, just like crying mantises. But I recognize that they are majestic and do have a certain beauty to them. And overall most people, I would say on average, would tend to say there are beautiful majestic creatures opposed to an alien. Yes.

[03:05:23] I agree. I just think because they give you side eye, they're a little too smart for like, I don't trust them. That's all. And also, I've known two separate people who were missing part of a finger. Yeah.

[03:05:37] Because they got their hand close the wrong way and it accidentally chopped their hair. They can't help with their fucking mouth as like a bear trap. But I can't help that two different people in my life had their fucking finger munched off. Yeah. Okay.

[03:05:52] So anyway, the horse serves as a loyal ally to the hero and epic tales or as a tireless companion in cowboy adventures and has become a symbol of war and political domination throughout history. Like think of a lot of our statues have the guy on the horse. Yeah.

[03:06:14] I think if they died in battle, like the horse is rearing and if they didn't die in battle, they just are heroes. I actually didn't know that. Is that actually a thing? I believe it is a thing. Don't quote me on it.

[03:06:26] I wasn't prepared to talk about that. Sure. But something you had heard before. Yeah. It's something I had heard before. And I can't remember which way it goes. But I think if the horse, if the statue has the horse rearing up on his back legs,

[03:06:41] the person being depicted died in battle. Okay. Otherwise it's just a hero and obviously, you know, of time past they died but it wasn't because of the battle. Right. So they're just a hero. Got it. So anyway, political domination throughout history, blah, blah, blah.

[03:07:00] And they are a symbol of evil through its association with nightmares and demons and think of like, sayators. Yeah. Like now we talk about sayators being half goat but at one time it was half horse and it gets into centaur's blah, blah, blah, blah.

[03:07:17] There are a symbol of eroticism through the ambiguity of writing. Okay. All right. Now the horse is a phallic animal, the image of which stems from the proximity between the writer who sits with the animal between his or her legs and moves with cadence to move men's.

[03:07:39] So it's the proximity between the writer and the act of sex during which we experience all the accelerations, what sensations of a horse ride. And there are some girls who claim that they have reached orgasm merely by writing horse because it hit the right spot. Got it.

[03:08:01] There are others who claim they lost their chairing because they balance too much and I'm like, that's not how that works bro, but whatever. Sure. There is the popular saying you know, it's hung like a horse. And because they have big dick. Right.

[03:08:14] I mean, not big compared to horses like their horses, their dick are exactly the size they should be for an animal to have that is that size. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Huge. So in Egyptian hyperglyphics, the horse represents a lustful person, asses and horses are proverbially lustful. Okay.

[03:08:40] And it should be noted that as course as these verses read, the original is even more rough than the translation. Wow. So it's like you thought that was bad. Just wait till you learn the other language isn't read it and like, you know, whatever, native tongue. Exactly.

[03:09:01] Some fucking Hebrew or whatever. That's almost makes me want to learn the, you know, whatever. Like I got to know like what do you mean? Let me just learn the words in this specific. Not even chapter. Just this verse. Yeah.

[03:09:17] And then I got to see what this is all about. Exactly. So that's my take on the horse and donkeys and jizz and dicks. Yeah. And the girls were kind of an exciting week of as he heal. It really was because we had, we had Paul fiction.

[03:09:37] We had horse jizz. We had, I mean, there was a lot of things ahead. That wasn't it, but I mean, like there was a lot of things that it felt, it felt We lost the tooth. Yeah. Yeah. We were just reading the fucking Bible.

[03:09:52] And our fault, it's just right there. We had to make a little bit different. We got to make a little this week. We talked a lot of sex this week. We did. We did. Yeah. You think that we were girls, but guys, guys.

[03:10:02] I mean, we're just reading the fucking Bible. And our fault. It's just right there. It's just right there. It's in the Bible and what it means. I can't. I can't. I can't help with the gods of Herbert. You know, I mean, he's a murdery person. He is gross.

[03:10:19] He really is. He really is. Don't keep digs in the fucking Bible. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. The Holy Book, the good word. Emissions. Seaman. The gnom. The glory Holy Book. Oh, my gosh. That's hilarious. All right. We got anything else for today? No. All right.

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