Bible Study by Atheists Weekly: Amos Chapters 6 - 9 plus End of Book Stuff!

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[00:02:16] Wife!

[00:02:17] Do you know where we are and how the hell we got here?

[00:02:21] Well, we are on Amos Chapter 6.

[00:02:25] We are.

[00:02:26] Which means that we just got done reading Amos Chapter 5.

[00:02:30] Yes, that is correct.

[00:02:31] Just meaning last week.

[00:02:33] I do want to mention before we get into this too much, though, on the weekly wrap-up, I did not include a special episode that we did the week prior, which was about the wave.

[00:02:45] Post-election?

[00:02:46] No, it was the pre-election one that we did.

[00:02:48] Oh, okay.

[00:02:48] The one about how, you know, the 13 waves or whatever.

[00:02:52] But seeing as Kamala had lost the election, I felt like it was a little irrelevant by the time I got to the posting of the weekly wrap-up.

[00:03:00] So if you wanted to listen to that one, it is just a standalone for you if you normally will listen to the weekly wrap-up.

[00:03:06] So I just had to say that for anybody.

[00:03:08] Oh, it was the 13 Keys one?

[00:03:09] Yeah, yeah.

[00:03:09] Ah.

[00:03:10] Yeah.

[00:03:10] The one where I was trying to have hope and you were poo-pooing me?

[00:03:13] Yeah.

[00:03:14] Turns out I was right.

[00:03:15] Yeah.

[00:03:15] And I hate you.

[00:03:18] Yeah, no, I mean, I hate you too.

[00:03:22] Well.

[00:03:24] So on Amos chapter 5.

[00:03:27] Yeah, what happened?

[00:03:28] Well, God wasn't happy with the Israelites.

[00:03:31] Let me guess.

[00:03:32] I know we're all shocked here.

[00:03:34] Let me guess.

[00:03:34] He's going to get you.

[00:03:36] Not just me, but like whole cities and stuff.

[00:03:38] Yeah, he's going to get them.

[00:03:39] It's all kinds of judgment.

[00:03:41] He's coming down with that hard.

[00:03:43] Yeah.

[00:03:43] And he doesn't give a fuck who you are as long as you're in that group of people that

[00:03:47] are bad.

[00:03:48] So, yeah, he's not happy with the Israelites.

[00:03:50] He's never happy with the Israelites.

[00:03:52] He's still not happy with the Israelites.

[00:03:54] I don't fucking know if this guy could ever be made happy.

[00:03:57] It doesn't seem that way.

[00:03:58] Well, I mean, his people are pretty stupid too on top of that.

[00:04:02] Are they though?

[00:04:02] Because I don't really feel like they are.

[00:04:05] I feel like they are being told a million different things from a million different people.

[00:04:08] I mean early back, like from the beginning.

[00:04:11] What do you mean by that?

[00:04:13] Like, I don't know what you mean.

[00:04:14] Like, straight out the gate, they were kind of stupid.

[00:04:16] As they're carrying around.

[00:04:17] Are you talking about like during Exodus when they didn't even have Exodus and it was just

[00:04:21] a story made up by some fucking human back 3,000 years ago?

[00:04:24] Yeah.

[00:04:25] Exactly.

[00:04:25] How can you be stupid if you're a fucking fictional character?

[00:04:28] I mean, but you're saying God is a fictional character and you're defending him?

[00:04:34] Wait, I'm defending God?

[00:04:35] When was I defending God?

[00:04:36] Just now.

[00:04:37] What did I do?

[00:04:37] I'm trying to defend the people.

[00:04:38] If you're not defending the people, you're defending God.

[00:04:40] No, none of it's real.

[00:04:42] Oh, you think all of them are stupid?

[00:04:43] Yeah.

[00:04:44] Okay.

[00:04:44] Okay.

[00:04:45] It's all, no, whoever wrote it was stupid.

[00:04:46] Okay.

[00:04:47] Everybody's stupid.

[00:04:47] And then somebody wrote it.

[00:04:48] Got it.

[00:04:49] Okay.

[00:04:49] That's all I would say.

[00:04:50] Why would I defend God?

[00:04:51] I don't know.

[00:04:53] I mean, God is a dick.

[00:04:54] Yeah.

[00:04:54] No, because in real life, there is no God to be a dick.

[00:04:57] It's just man is a dick.

[00:04:59] Yes, that is true.

[00:05:01] And we've learned that real, you know, viscerally here in the last week or so.

[00:05:06] Particularly the majority of American men and the women who love them.

[00:05:10] I was going to say specifically men.

[00:05:12] Specifically men.

[00:05:13] Specifically men are dicks.

[00:05:14] Yeah.

[00:05:15] But, and the women who love those men.

[00:05:17] Sure.

[00:05:19] Right.

[00:05:19] If you are a woman and you voted for Trump, you're a dick.

[00:05:24] If you are a woman and you voted for Trump because your husband told you to, you're a dick.

[00:05:31] We are so nice to our audience.

[00:05:33] You know that?

[00:05:34] I don't.

[00:05:35] Look, here's the thing.

[00:05:36] Here's the thing.

[00:05:37] If you are my audience, you are one of two people.

[00:05:40] You know who I am.

[00:05:42] Right.

[00:05:42] You get it.

[00:05:43] And you're here and you love what I'm saying.

[00:05:45] Or you're hate listening.

[00:05:45] And that's why you keep coming back.

[00:05:47] Or you're hate listening.

[00:05:48] Or if you are not that person, you are the other person, which is the hate listener.

[00:05:52] In which case, yeah, I don't give a fuck about your fucking little feelings.

[00:05:56] Seriously.

[00:05:58] You're here hate listening?

[00:06:00] Fuck the fuck off.

[00:06:01] You're a dick and you and your God can eat my whole entire ass.

[00:06:04] I guess I hold out some hope of redemption for people.

[00:06:08] Whatever.

[00:06:09] That's all.

[00:06:09] I don't.

[00:06:10] On a, you know, whatever.

[00:06:12] Look, here's the thing.

[00:06:13] Like, I'm all bark and very little bite.

[00:06:16] Because I say that even as there are people in my life who have done bad things.

[00:06:26] And I would say, you know, I love you and I forgive you.

[00:06:30] Right?

[00:06:30] Sure.

[00:06:31] So, like, on a personal level, on a one-on-one level, like, we can get through this.

[00:06:36] There is redemption, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[00:06:39] Right?

[00:06:39] Yeah.

[00:06:39] But on just a general, like, mass level, fuck off.

[00:06:44] I hate you.

[00:06:45] Right.

[00:06:45] But you gotta see it from our listener's perspective, too, right?

[00:06:49] Which listener?

[00:06:50] The one that you're bashing right now.

[00:06:52] Yeah.

[00:06:52] We are talking to them directly through their listening device.

[00:06:56] The hate listener who is actively only listening to be mean and to be an asshole.

[00:07:01] And to find, like, sound bites.

[00:07:03] There could be hope.

[00:07:04] I'm just saying.

[00:07:05] Whatever.

[00:07:06] That's just my perspective.

[00:07:07] Okay.

[00:07:07] Okay.

[00:07:08] I love you so much, hate listener.

[00:07:10] I wish you the best.

[00:07:12] And I hope you don't sit on a bunch of fucking tacks.

[00:07:15] God.

[00:07:16] I hope you always find the cold side of your pillow.

[00:07:19] Hmm.

[00:07:20] Yeah.

[00:07:20] You know?

[00:07:21] All right.

[00:07:21] Well, I think we should probably get off this subject.

[00:07:24] Because it's going badly.

[00:07:26] After.

[00:07:27] I told you last time we were recording that after the election, I'm going to be fucking bitter

[00:07:34] and nasty and mean.

[00:07:35] I told you that on the air that this is not going to go well.

[00:07:41] So.

[00:07:41] Right.

[00:07:42] You're looking at me and you're glaring.

[00:07:45] Just a bit.

[00:07:46] Just a bit.

[00:07:47] Yeah.

[00:07:48] You too shall get through this.

[00:07:50] No, I know.

[00:07:50] After all, you're a straight white man.

[00:07:53] It'll be fine for you.

[00:07:55] Yep.

[00:07:55] It will.

[00:07:56] Yep.

[00:07:57] All right.

[00:07:57] Anyway.

[00:07:58] Yes.

[00:07:58] So we are.

[00:07:59] We just got done reading Amos chapter five.

[00:08:01] Sure as fuck did.

[00:08:02] And that would mean that today we're going to be reading.

[00:08:05] Amos chapter six.

[00:08:07] All right.

[00:08:08] Let's do this.

[00:08:08] Okie dokie.

[00:08:16] All right.

[00:08:17] So we had a bit of a discussion during the break.

[00:08:21] Yes, we did.

[00:08:21] And we had what I thought was some important stuff to say.

[00:08:27] Husband wasn't necessarily for this because he's not sure how this discussion will go.

[00:08:33] But moreover, I don't want to turn this into a special episode about this.

[00:08:37] Right.

[00:08:37] Right.

[00:08:38] I just, I thought it, because it sounded maybe a little bit awkward and irritating in our opening,

[00:08:46] I thought we should address it right quick, which is that we are both reacting to the recent U.S. election.

[00:08:54] Yes.

[00:08:54] And you are the voice of reason and rationality.

[00:08:58] And you kind of want to make a plan and not alienate anybody.

[00:09:05] Right.

[00:09:05] Whereas I am the irrational person that I usually am.

[00:09:11] Out of control.

[00:09:12] Very emotional.

[00:09:14] Very angry and hurt and frustrated.

[00:09:15] And I'm not saying there's not a place for that.

[00:09:17] No.

[00:09:17] And that's why I thought we should discuss this real quick.

[00:09:21] Not going to take a lot of time here.

[00:09:23] Just wanted to say that if our interaction made you uncomfortable, kind of good.

[00:09:33] Because that's what's happening.

[00:09:34] I think across America right now in living rooms and with friends and family is people trying to figure out the right way to feel and the right way to react.

[00:09:45] Sure.

[00:09:46] And there is no right way to feel.

[00:09:50] And however you're feeling is okay.

[00:09:53] But having said that, husband did point out that we do not want to invoke violence or let our anger, fear, disappointment, frustration make us hateful.

[00:10:10] Right.

[00:10:11] And I do tend to veer that way when I am upset.

[00:10:16] Well, I mean, I think I said this when we were discussing this.

[00:10:18] I think it's a little hard to call God a dick and an asshole for being violent and shitty when, you know, we react much the same way when something we don't like happens.

[00:10:30] And so, and I'm not trying to call you out directly.

[00:10:32] I understand the anger.

[00:10:34] I understand the, you know, the reaction.

[00:10:37] The difference would be that God is based on how people react.

[00:10:43] And I'm representing the worst of that when I'm being angry and, and being like, go sit on a tack and eat my whole entire ass.

[00:10:56] Sure.

[00:10:57] Sure.

[00:10:57] I just, I, there are people that are reachable and that's my whole thing is that, you know, like it's not, I'm not, I understand your point of view.

[00:11:07] And I, and I think that there is definitely a place for being angry and upset about what is happening to our country and what has happened in this world.

[00:11:14] Right.

[00:11:15] But at the same time, there's anger is not going to fix it.

[00:11:20] Anger, anger is, is, is a reaction to what has happened.

[00:11:25] And the real work has to start somewhere when, with regard to how do we come back from this?

[00:11:32] How do we get this turned around the right way?

[00:11:34] And pissing people off to me, isn't the correct answer.

[00:11:38] I am going to push back a little bit on you there.

[00:11:42] Anger, I think can fuel people.

[00:11:45] Sure.

[00:11:46] And can fire people up to take those actions.

[00:11:53] And so therefore it's not necessarily misplaced.

[00:11:57] Just make sure that your anger is not the only thing that is keeping you moving.

[00:12:05] Make sure that you have some logic and rationality in there.

[00:12:10] Yeah.

[00:12:11] Mixed in with the anger.

[00:12:12] And if all else fails, you know, get your Canadian passports ready and we can all move to Canada.

[00:12:17] Or something.

[00:12:18] Yeah.

[00:12:19] Yeah.

[00:12:20] Yeah.

[00:12:20] I just, we, we both ended the opening segment frustrated with each other and with the world

[00:12:29] and felt like we needed to address it real quick.

[00:12:33] Yeah.

[00:12:33] So we've addressed it.

[00:12:35] Yes, we have.

[00:12:36] And we still love each other.

[00:12:37] We're fine.

[00:12:38] We're not like in a fight or anything for our listeners who sometimes get concerned when

[00:12:43] we go off on each other.

[00:12:45] Yeah.

[00:12:45] This is how we work stuff out though.

[00:12:47] This is, this is how we do.

[00:12:49] Indeed.

[00:12:49] And this is, you know, part of the normal course of things.

[00:12:54] Right.

[00:12:55] So.

[00:12:56] We'll figure this out as we go along.

[00:12:58] Us as a couple and us as a country, I guess.

[00:13:01] And my comment was like, you know, I had been on the podcast.

[00:13:06] We had been through the end of Trump's presidency together.

[00:13:09] At the beginning of our podcast.

[00:13:11] At the beginning of our podcast.

[00:13:12] But we had, we have never been through the beginning of Trump's presidency.

[00:13:15] Right.

[00:13:15] Until now.

[00:13:16] And, and I know that the initial beginning of Trump's presidency as a couple was a rough

[00:13:23] time.

[00:13:24] It was a rough time.

[00:13:25] So.

[00:13:25] Because I, I wear my feelings on my sleeve.

[00:13:29] You have no doubt as to how I feel about something at any given moment.

[00:13:34] Very true.

[00:13:34] And I feel all the feels.

[00:13:36] Right.

[00:13:36] And I don't apologize for that.

[00:13:39] I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of that.

[00:13:41] Um, but it is something to be noted.

[00:13:45] Right.

[00:13:46] And if you, if you are like me, you understand how hard it is to operate in this world where

[00:13:54] you can't just give sway to those feelings.

[00:13:59] Right.

[00:13:59] And if you are like husband, you understand how frustrating it is to, um, be trying to make

[00:14:06] good decisions and you have all these, you know, emotional people around you not helping

[00:14:13] you.

[00:14:14] So hopefully you are one of those two things and you relate to one of us, or maybe you're

[00:14:21] a good solid mix of both.

[00:14:23] And you get where we're coming from.

[00:14:24] Yeah.

[00:14:24] And now that we got that, um, the whole, the whole shittiness of Trump settled and dealt

[00:14:30] with and forever buried.

[00:14:32] Right.

[00:14:32] Yeah.

[00:14:32] I was just going to say, we may end up doing this more than once.

[00:14:37] We may end up having to have this discussion more than once.

[00:14:41] Oh, I'm quite certain.

[00:14:42] I get heated.

[00:14:43] You try to maybe rein me in or remind me that's not the topic of today's discussion though, dear.

[00:14:49] Right.

[00:14:50] And, and then we have to come back and be like, okay, sorry.

[00:14:53] Yes, we're good.

[00:14:55] Sorry.

[00:14:55] Let's go.

[00:14:56] Speaking of which.

[00:14:57] Yes.

[00:14:57] We're doing Amos.

[00:14:58] We are chapter six.

[00:15:00] Yes.

[00:15:00] All right.

[00:15:00] So I'm going to tone it down and we're going to dive in.

[00:15:04] All right.

[00:15:04] Are you ready for this?

[00:15:05] I'm so ready.

[00:15:06] Okay.

[00:15:07] Whoa.

[00:15:08] Whoa.

[00:15:10] To you who are complacent in Zion, I am fucking loving this opening.

[00:15:16] And to you who feel secure.

[00:15:18] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[00:15:19] What, what, what?

[00:15:19] I don't, I don't advocate being complacent.

[00:15:22] No.

[00:15:22] Okay.

[00:15:22] I didn't say you did.

[00:15:23] I just, I just want to be clear here.

[00:15:25] I'm just kidding.

[00:15:25] I absolutely advocate evidence or not evidence.

[00:15:29] Action.

[00:15:29] Action.

[00:15:30] Yeah, I know.

[00:15:30] Okay.

[00:15:31] I'm not reading.

[00:15:32] I'm just reading the Bible.

[00:15:33] Okay.

[00:15:34] I'm just reading the Bible.

[00:15:35] The fact that I'm looking at you while I'm reading it means nothing.

[00:15:38] I'm just kidding.

[00:15:39] I'm so kidding.

[00:15:40] Oh my God.

[00:15:41] I'm kidding.

[00:15:41] You're not complacent.

[00:15:42] Okay.

[00:15:43] Oh my God.

[00:15:44] That's exactly the antithesis of what I am.

[00:15:47] I know you're not complacent.

[00:15:49] You are an action taker.

[00:15:50] You just are a smart action taker.

[00:15:54] Whereas I'm a off, off the chain action.

[00:15:57] It's going to be a rough episode guys.

[00:15:59] Sorry.

[00:15:59] I'm starting over.

[00:16:00] Ready?

[00:16:01] Let's, let's have our editor edit some of this out.

[00:16:04] No kidding.

[00:16:05] No, you're the editor.

[00:16:06] I know.

[00:16:06] I'm not.

[00:16:07] No.

[00:16:08] Whoa.

[00:16:09] To you who are complacent in Zion and to you who feel secure on Mount Samaria.

[00:16:15] You notable men of the foremost nation to whom the people of Israel come.

[00:16:20] Exclamation mark.

[00:16:22] Okay.

[00:16:23] Okay.

[00:16:23] Yeah.

[00:16:24] Go to Kalna and look at it.

[00:16:27] Go from there to great Hamath and then go down to Gath and Philistia.

[00:16:33] You bitches.

[00:16:34] Maybe I didn't want to travel all over the fucking place.

[00:16:37] I really didn't.

[00:16:38] Right.

[00:16:38] I mean, if I was going to travel anywhere right now, it would not be the Middle East because

[00:16:43] they got war going on over there.

[00:16:44] They do.

[00:16:45] They do.

[00:16:45] And I would maybe, I don't know, maybe somewhere like Scandinavian countries.

[00:16:52] They got some really happy people there.

[00:16:54] Iceland.

[00:16:55] I think people leave people in Iceland alone for the most part.

[00:16:57] Yeah.

[00:16:57] Yeah.

[00:16:58] Yeah.

[00:16:58] It seems like a good place to go.

[00:17:00] Yeah.

[00:17:00] The only thing that I'm not, like if I was going to travel somewhere, I wouldn't necessarily

[00:17:05] want to get closer to Russia.

[00:17:07] Right.

[00:17:09] Like, there's no safe place on this planet, honestly.

[00:17:13] Yeah.

[00:17:13] Yeah.

[00:17:14] Are they better off than your two kingdoms?

[00:17:17] I don't.

[00:17:18] I don't.

[00:17:18] Are they?

[00:17:18] I guess not.

[00:17:20] Do you know?

[00:17:20] I don't know.

[00:17:21] Is their land larger than yours?

[00:17:23] What about their dicks?

[00:17:25] Are their dicks larger?

[00:17:27] The Egyptians' dicks are definitely bigger.

[00:17:28] Oh, I remember that.

[00:17:29] Yeah.

[00:17:29] Yeah.

[00:17:29] That's what they said anyways.

[00:17:30] Somebody said that, yeah.

[00:17:31] Yeah.

[00:17:32] They were like elephant size or something.

[00:17:34] I kind of feel like that was racist, but in a positive way.

[00:17:38] I mean, if I was the Egyptians, I'd be like, okay.

[00:17:40] Goddamn right they are.

[00:17:42] But I just, like, I don't, I don't know.

[00:17:45] Is good racism still, is it, it's still racism, you know?

[00:17:50] I don't know that that was Minnesota.

[00:17:51] Who knows?

[00:17:52] I mean, they were like them big-dicked Egyptians.

[00:17:55] Yeah.

[00:17:55] You know how they be.

[00:17:56] Yeah.

[00:17:57] No, we talked about it at the time.

[00:17:59] We did.

[00:17:59] And it probably, it did sound like an insult.

[00:18:03] It's just like, of all the insults, like, really?

[00:18:05] That's a weird one.

[00:18:06] Yeah.

[00:18:07] Yeah.

[00:18:07] Let's just, I don't know.

[00:18:09] Everybody has a big dick.

[00:18:11] Whee!

[00:18:12] There.

[00:18:12] Okay.

[00:18:12] You put off the day of disaster and bring near a reign of terror.

[00:18:18] Reign of terror.

[00:18:19] Hmm.

[00:18:20] You lie on beds adorned with ivory and lounge on your couches.

[00:18:25] Yeah, I do.

[00:18:26] You dine on choice lambs.

[00:18:28] No, I don't.

[00:18:29] And fatted, fat, fatted, fattened calves.

[00:18:33] Got it.

[00:18:33] Well, okay, so my brain was saying fatted calves, but it reads fattened calves.

[00:18:41] And so I was stumbling over, is it fatted or fattened?

[00:18:45] Got it.

[00:18:46] It's fatted.

[00:18:46] Is fatted a word?

[00:18:48] Yeah.

[00:18:48] Okay.

[00:18:49] I've never, I've fattened is how I would have always said that.

[00:18:51] Well, good, because that's what it said.

[00:18:53] Yeah, yeah.

[00:18:53] Those calves be fattened.

[00:18:55] Okay.

[00:18:56] You strum away on your harps like David.

[00:19:00] Huh?

[00:19:00] I mean, is that a bad thing?

[00:19:03] No.

[00:19:03] David's like one of those, you know, he's a harpy.

[00:19:05] Godly hero.

[00:19:06] He's a harpy.

[00:19:07] Right.

[00:19:07] He's a harper.

[00:19:09] And improvise on musical instruments.

[00:19:11] Oh my God.

[00:19:12] I hate it when people improvise on musical jazz.

[00:19:14] I was just going to say fucking modest mouse.

[00:19:17] That's not jazz.

[00:19:18] It's not jazz, but they do make some noise in their music.

[00:19:21] Beautiful noise.

[00:19:22] I hate it so much.

[00:19:24] And going back to jazz, one of my favorite jazz artists is Charles Mingus.

[00:19:29] It's such great music.

[00:19:31] Like if you want to look up some good jazz, in my opinion, look up the album.

[00:19:35] Oh yeah.

[00:19:36] By Charles Mingus.

[00:19:37] Okay.

[00:19:37] So I'm about to turn off the majority of our listeners.

[00:19:41] When I say that I don't like jazz, it's too disorganized.

[00:19:46] I like organized things and it's too messy.

[00:19:50] Jazz is messy.

[00:19:51] And I understand that it serves a place and I respect it as an art.

[00:19:57] And I understand that people enjoy it and I get why.

[00:20:00] And I would never take it away from anybody.

[00:20:03] I just don't want to listen to it ever.

[00:20:05] Okay.

[00:20:06] Ever.

[00:20:07] Not even once.

[00:20:08] Yeah.

[00:20:08] No.

[00:20:09] So.

[00:20:11] I love jazz.

[00:20:12] I hate it when you want to play jazz.

[00:20:14] Yeah.

[00:20:14] And I'm like, how about if you put your earbuds in?

[00:20:18] And you're like, what if you put yours in?

[00:20:20] And I'm like, what if we both put our earbuds in and you listen to jazz in your earbuds?

[00:20:24] And I listen to Britney Spears.

[00:20:26] Britney Spears, podcasts, audio books, you know, whatever.

[00:20:30] Sure.

[00:20:31] Yeah.

[00:20:32] So anyway, no jazz.

[00:20:33] Don't be like a David person doing shit on your heart.

[00:20:38] Yeah.

[00:20:38] Don't do your heart.

[00:20:39] Don't do the harp jazz.

[00:20:39] Yeah.

[00:20:40] Yeah.

[00:20:40] Harp jazz.

[00:20:41] That's kind of fun.

[00:20:42] Yeah.

[00:20:44] Drink wine by the bowl full.

[00:20:46] Yeah, I do.

[00:20:47] And use the finest lotions.

[00:20:49] Oh, the only thing I could think is baby oil.

[00:20:53] You know who just got in trouble with baby oil?

[00:20:56] No.

[00:20:56] Did he?

[00:20:57] He got.

[00:20:58] Oh, he's got like a.

[00:20:59] A fuck ton.

[00:21:01] Yeah.

[00:21:02] Because he nasty.

[00:21:04] Right.

[00:21:04] Well, yeah.

[00:21:05] Because he got arrested and stuff for like trafficking.

[00:21:08] Oh, it's really bad.

[00:21:10] Yeah.

[00:21:10] Yeah.

[00:21:11] It's a.

[00:21:11] So.

[00:21:12] Yeah.

[00:21:12] When you say you use the finest lotions, I'm like, I don't know what you mean by that,

[00:21:16] but it does not sound good.

[00:21:18] But you do not grieve over the ruin of Joseph.

[00:21:22] What?

[00:21:23] Joseph meaning Israel?

[00:21:25] Like in general?

[00:21:26] Joseph.

[00:21:27] I'm assuming.

[00:21:28] I'm confused.

[00:21:30] Well, Joseph is one of the terms that they use to represent Israel, right?

[00:21:33] No, that's Jacob.

[00:21:35] That's Jacob.

[00:21:35] That's Jacob.

[00:21:36] So who the fuck's Joseph?

[00:21:37] You don't grieve him, whoever it is.

[00:21:40] It's got to be some sort of a reference to either like the Northern tribes or something

[00:21:44] like that.

[00:21:45] I'm confused though.

[00:21:46] Really?

[00:21:47] I am too.

[00:21:47] And that's obviously a question we're going to need to hit up in the Q&A.

[00:21:50] Yeah, we will.

[00:21:51] Like big time.

[00:21:51] We need to make sure.

[00:21:52] WTF is Joseph.

[00:21:54] Right.

[00:21:54] And why are we crying or not crying about the ruin of him?

[00:21:58] Yeah, I'm trying to think how that plays in because I mean there was, you know.

[00:22:02] I mean Joseph had a coat of many colors.

[00:22:06] Right.

[00:22:06] You know, he was one of Jacob's sons.

[00:22:08] Yeah.

[00:22:09] So it's probably some sort of a reference to what happened to him.

[00:22:13] Him and his two sons, Manasseh and...

[00:22:16] Or even when his brothers, you know, abandoned him in the well to have him sold and then

[00:22:21] sold him into slavery or...

[00:22:23] Right.

[00:22:23] You know, so there's any number of things it could reference with regard to that, but...

[00:22:27] Who was Joseph's other son?

[00:22:29] Oh gosh, you put me on the spot.

[00:22:31] I honestly don't know off the top of my head.

[00:22:33] It wasn't Levi.

[00:22:33] Levi was one of the brothers.

[00:22:35] Okay.

[00:22:36] Yeah, I don't remember.

[00:22:37] I don't know.

[00:22:38] But Manasseh was one of them though, right?

[00:22:40] Right.

[00:22:40] Was it Ephraim?

[00:22:41] Oh, it might have been.

[00:22:42] I think it was Ephraim of Manasseh.

[00:22:43] Was it Ephraim?

[00:22:44] Okay.

[00:22:45] That sounds right.

[00:22:46] Right, Ephraim of Manasseh.

[00:22:48] Okay.

[00:22:48] They sound like, to me, they go together in my brain.

[00:22:50] They do.

[00:22:50] In my brain too.

[00:22:52] Okay.

[00:22:52] I'm going to go with that.

[00:22:53] If we're wrong, we'll correct it later someday.

[00:22:56] Yeah.

[00:22:57] Someday being God knows when.

[00:23:00] Therefore, you will be among the first to go into exile.

[00:23:03] Your feasting and lounging will end.

[00:23:07] Okay?

[00:23:07] I mean, usually when you go into exile, probably that is a thing.

[00:23:10] I mean, look, I'm having a hard time.

[00:23:13] They're trying to say, you lazy fuck.

[00:23:15] And I'm like, they had a comfortable life and that's bad.

[00:23:18] I don't think it's the comfortable life that's bad.

[00:23:20] I think it's the bad things that they did that were bad.

[00:23:25] Well, and the bad things that they did are all subjective depending on who's judging you

[00:23:30] for them, right?

[00:23:30] Yeah.

[00:23:31] God judges that the bad things that they're doing is not worshiping him correctly.

[00:23:35] Right.

[00:23:35] I don't give a fuck how they're worshiping anybody.

[00:23:37] You know, you do whatever you got to do.

[00:23:39] Yeah.

[00:23:39] Now, if they're treating people like fucking shit, that's a whole different story.

[00:23:42] Or buying and selling people as slaves.

[00:23:44] Right.

[00:23:45] Sex trafficking.

[00:23:47] Yeah.

[00:23:47] Like all of that.

[00:23:48] If you're doing morally reprehensible stuff.

[00:23:50] Right.

[00:23:50] That I will judge you for.

[00:23:53] Your ability to relate to worship and, you know, bow down to your God is none of my fucking

[00:23:59] business and nor do I care what you're doing with regard to that.

[00:24:03] Like, as long as it doesn't affect me.

[00:24:05] Right.

[00:24:05] You know?

[00:24:06] Well, that's what I'm like reading through all that and I'm like, honestly, none of that

[00:24:09] sounds bad.

[00:24:10] I would like to lay around on the couch eating steak and plucking around on a harp.

[00:24:17] Well, that's been one of my biggest hangups with regard to the Old Testament God is that

[00:24:21] his biggest, you know, problem with the Israelites seems to be.

[00:24:26] Is not how they treat each other.

[00:24:27] No.

[00:24:27] It's all about him.

[00:24:29] It's all about him.

[00:24:30] Yeah.

[00:24:30] He is like the biggest goddamn narcissist in the universe.

[00:24:34] He really is giving off little dick energy, if I'm being honest.

[00:24:37] Yeah.

[00:24:39] The sovereign Lord has sworn by himself.

[00:24:41] The Lord God Almighty declares, you know, I swear to me.

[00:24:46] Oh, and me.

[00:24:48] I abhor the pride of Jacob and detest his fortresses.

[00:24:53] This is God speaking.

[00:24:54] Okay.

[00:24:54] I will deliver up the city and everything in it.

[00:24:58] Oh, okay.

[00:24:59] If 10 people are left in one house, they too will die.

[00:25:04] Okay.

[00:25:05] And if the relative who comes to carry the bodies out of the house to burn them, ask anyone

[00:25:10] who might be hiding there, is anyone else with you?

[00:25:13] And he says, no, then he will go on to say, hush, we must not mention the name of the Lord.

[00:25:19] For the Lord has given the command and he will smash the great house into pieces and a small

[00:25:24] house into bits.

[00:25:25] Okay.

[00:25:26] I see your confusion.

[00:25:26] And I would be confused too, had I not actually read this bit in some of the notes.

[00:25:31] Okay.

[00:25:32] The reason that they're like, hush, don't, don't talk about the Lord.

[00:25:35] Right.

[00:25:36] What they're saying is he might hear you and notice us and then he'll smash us.

[00:25:40] Oh.

[00:25:41] God is on a rampage.

[00:25:42] So they're trying to hide from God.

[00:25:44] Yeah.

[00:25:44] Because God is like pounding his fists every which way and he's fucking shit up and they're

[00:25:49] like, oh my gosh, just go away.

[00:25:52] Don't bring God's, don't bring God's attention on us.

[00:25:56] He's about to smash our house.

[00:25:58] Okay.

[00:25:58] Hush.

[00:25:59] Don't say God's name.

[00:26:00] Got it.

[00:26:01] Okay.

[00:26:01] So that's what they're saying.

[00:26:02] Yeah.

[00:26:03] Okay.

[00:26:03] For the Lord has given command, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:26:05] Okay.

[00:26:05] He's going to smash the houses.

[00:26:08] Do horses run on the rocky crags?

[00:26:11] Probably not.

[00:26:12] Not on purpose.

[00:26:14] Yeah.

[00:26:14] It wouldn't be a good place for horses to be.

[00:26:16] People might like be like, yeah, giddy up.

[00:26:19] We got to escape on these rocky crags.

[00:26:20] So maybe they do.

[00:26:21] But not like of their own free will.

[00:26:23] You wouldn't think so.

[00:26:24] Right.

[00:26:24] Right.

[00:26:24] If I was a horse, I'd probably stick to the like the grassy pastures and stuff.

[00:26:28] Right.

[00:26:28] Yeah.

[00:26:29] Yeah.

[00:26:29] Does one plow the sea with oxen?

[00:26:32] No.

[00:26:32] No.

[00:26:33] No.

[00:26:33] That one's definitely a no.

[00:26:34] That one's a definite no for me.

[00:26:35] Dog.

[00:26:36] But you have turned justice into poison and the fruit of righteousness into bitterness.

[00:26:42] You who rejoice in the conquest of Lodabar.

[00:26:46] What?

[00:26:47] And say, did we not take care name by our own strength?

[00:26:52] Carnum?

[00:26:54] Lodabar.

[00:26:55] Yeah.

[00:26:55] I don't know what that's in reference to at all.

[00:26:57] We are definitely going to have to get back to you.

[00:26:59] This is a very.

[00:27:00] This is a Q&A heavy.

[00:27:01] It really is.

[00:27:02] We're going to have to cover this one hardcore.

[00:27:04] And like, I'm about to finish it.

[00:27:06] Sure.

[00:27:06] 14 verses.

[00:27:07] And we've got like three questions.

[00:27:08] I mean, I'm not even going to look it up because it seems like this is just way too

[00:27:11] much to get into.

[00:27:12] Yeah.

[00:27:12] And I apologize because I would love to know right now.

[00:27:15] Yeah.

[00:27:16] But now you have something to look forward to in the Q&A.

[00:27:18] Definitely.

[00:27:19] Yeah.

[00:27:19] And some of you don't.

[00:27:20] And then me too.

[00:27:20] Some of you don't listen to the Q&A.

[00:27:22] What the hell are you doing, guys?

[00:27:23] I really think you should because we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

[00:27:28] Right.

[00:27:28] And we, you know, and we have a place on our discord where you can call us out and let

[00:27:33] us know what we got wrong.

[00:27:34] Yeah.

[00:27:34] And we would really appreciate the help.

[00:27:36] Like, so like if you are a fan and you don't want to come for the lives, right?

[00:27:40] We have other things there that are, you know, just as helpful to us.

[00:27:44] Like if you go to our Q&A site or like the wife and husband and wife are wrong.

[00:27:50] Husband and wife got it wrong.

[00:27:51] Got it wrong.

[00:27:51] Yeah.

[00:27:52] Our section on there.

[00:27:53] You can let us know where we got it wrong.

[00:27:54] And it really does help us out.

[00:27:56] Yeah.

[00:27:57] And we will correct our wrongs.

[00:27:59] Yeah.

[00:27:59] And other people do call us out on these things.

[00:28:01] Oh, they do.

[00:28:02] Some of the people that most adore us do.

[00:28:04] The more people that call us out on this stuff, the more we're going to end up being more

[00:28:08] correct, you know?

[00:28:09] And it gives us more things to look up and be curious about.

[00:28:14] Sure.

[00:28:14] And that's the whole point of this.

[00:28:15] So we would love for you to be on Discord and also join us on the lives if you want

[00:28:20] to.

[00:28:20] But on Discord at all is great.

[00:28:23] Wednesdays at 10 p.m. Eastern.

[00:28:26] That is correct.

[00:28:26] Okay.

[00:28:27] Yeah.

[00:28:27] All right.

[00:28:28] Let me read this last verse.

[00:28:29] Okay.

[00:28:30] For the Lord God Almighty declares, I will stir up a nation against you, Israel, that will

[00:28:36] oppress you all the way from Lebo Hamath to the Valley of Araba.

[00:28:41] So if we run further than that, we're okay.

[00:28:44] Yes.

[00:28:45] Okay.

[00:28:46] Okay.

[00:28:46] Yes.

[00:28:46] So you can hide.

[00:28:48] You just got to go further than that.

[00:28:50] Yes.

[00:28:51] Okay.

[00:28:51] Which back then would have been an issue because they did not have airplanes and helicopters

[00:28:56] yet.

[00:28:57] Right.

[00:28:57] But we have those now.

[00:28:59] So it's fine.

[00:29:00] Yeah.

[00:29:01] We can.

[00:29:01] I mean, we're definitely not in between those.

[00:29:03] We're outside that circle anyway.

[00:29:04] That's probably why we're good.

[00:29:05] You know, we're good.

[00:29:06] We're not in between those places.

[00:29:07] Yeah.

[00:29:08] Yeah.

[00:29:08] Yeah.

[00:29:08] So once again, God is going to kill his people.

[00:29:11] Yes.

[00:29:12] Because they don't worship him enough.

[00:29:14] Right.

[00:29:14] And they don't.

[00:29:15] They live too richly for his liking sometimes.

[00:29:18] He doesn't like it when they pluck their harps like David did.

[00:29:21] Right.

[00:29:21] And they build fortresses or something.

[00:29:23] So no, no harp jazz, no fortresses and no, no couch laying, no fancy houses.

[00:29:31] And then also you should probably just like constantly be begging for God's forgiveness.

[00:29:38] Never not be afraid.

[00:29:40] I mean, we say that like almost every episode.

[00:29:43] Right.

[00:29:44] All right.

[00:29:44] Well, that was Amos chapter six.

[00:29:47] Sure as fuck was.

[00:29:48] Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with Amos chapter seven.

[00:29:53] We'll see you then.

[00:29:54] Bye.

[00:29:55] Ben.

[00:30:00] Wife.

[00:30:01] Do you know where we are today?

[00:30:04] Well, we just got done reading Amos chapter six.

[00:30:08] Yes, we did.

[00:30:09] That is correct.

[00:30:10] We did.

[00:30:10] And in that chapter, God was mad at the complacent.

[00:30:16] The people.

[00:30:17] Complacent.

[00:30:17] Yeah.

[00:30:17] The people who were just.

[00:30:19] The layabouts.

[00:30:20] Yeah.

[00:30:20] Yeah.

[00:30:21] They weren't doing all the.

[00:30:22] They wanted.

[00:30:22] They wanted the wine and the drinks and the things.

[00:30:26] The ivory walls and the whatevers.

[00:30:28] Them thick babes that be laying on the couch eating bonbons.

[00:30:31] Sounds pretty nice to me, actually.

[00:30:33] You know, like you're.

[00:30:34] With the herps.

[00:30:35] You're there like, you know, in the.

[00:30:37] In the.

[00:30:38] In that area with like the figs and the olives.

[00:30:41] Mm-hmm.

[00:30:41] And the laying about and the ivory and the.

[00:30:43] I mean, not that ivory is good.

[00:30:45] Ivory is bad.

[00:30:46] I'll be that fat cow.

[00:30:46] I don't want the ivory because I don't want the elephants to die.

[00:30:49] And I think that's horrible.

[00:30:50] But, you know, back then.

[00:30:52] They didn't know.

[00:30:53] And.

[00:30:55] Oh, my God.

[00:30:57] I'm just saying.

[00:30:58] I'm just saying.

[00:30:58] You know.

[00:30:59] Anyway.

[00:31:00] So there was more.

[00:31:01] God's going to kill people for being, you know, not the way he wants them to be.

[00:31:04] And.

[00:31:04] Right.

[00:31:05] And they're bad and horrible.

[00:31:07] And pretty much the expected way things go with God.

[00:31:11] Would you say that God hates them?

[00:31:14] Hmm.

[00:31:15] Hmm.

[00:31:16] That's.

[00:31:16] That's a good question.

[00:31:18] I mean, he's bringing all kinds of calamity on him.

[00:31:21] He does.

[00:31:21] He does.

[00:31:22] But I feel like.

[00:31:23] Okay.

[00:31:25] I feel like it's the parent who is the one who says they love their kids.

[00:31:33] And they're doing this because they love their kids.

[00:31:36] But it turns out it's horrible for their kids.

[00:31:38] Because they're.

[00:31:40] Abusive.

[00:31:41] Abusive.

[00:31:41] Yeah.

[00:31:42] And they don't know it.

[00:31:43] Most people would interpret as hate or, you know, something along those lines.

[00:31:48] But.

[00:31:48] It's misguided love.

[00:31:50] Yeah.

[00:31:51] I honestly.

[00:31:52] He just needs therapy.

[00:31:52] I was going to say.

[00:31:53] Yeah.

[00:31:54] In the 2024.

[00:31:55] We've talked about it before.

[00:31:56] I think God needs therapy.

[00:31:57] Yeah.

[00:31:58] Really.

[00:31:58] He and his people need family therapy.

[00:32:01] Yeah.

[00:32:02] Because.

[00:32:02] For sure.

[00:32:03] Because his people need to pick a God and get there.

[00:32:06] Right.

[00:32:06] And.

[00:32:07] They need a reason to trust that he's the one they should pick.

[00:32:10] Right now.

[00:32:11] I think that.

[00:32:12] Yeah.

[00:32:13] Definitely.

[00:32:13] Even today.

[00:32:14] God and.

[00:32:15] And God's people.

[00:32:17] Could use.

[00:32:17] Could use some therapy.

[00:32:18] And how.

[00:32:20] I said.

[00:32:21] I know that's right.

[00:32:22] So anyway.

[00:32:23] Anyway.

[00:32:23] God's going to kill some people because they're complacent.

[00:32:25] Because he doesn't like things they're doing.

[00:32:26] And whatever.

[00:32:27] Normal shit.

[00:32:28] In the Bible.

[00:32:29] He's going to get them.

[00:32:29] That was Amos chapter six.

[00:32:31] Which means that today we're getting into.

[00:32:33] Amos chapter seven.

[00:32:34] All right.

[00:32:35] Let's do this.

[00:32:42] All right.

[00:32:44] Let's read Amos chapter seven.

[00:32:47] All right.

[00:32:48] This is what the sovereign Lord showed me.

[00:32:51] Showed you.

[00:32:51] He showed it to me.

[00:32:53] He didn't say it.

[00:32:53] He showed.

[00:32:53] This is show and tell.

[00:32:55] He showed me something.

[00:32:56] This is God.

[00:32:57] God displaying his wares.

[00:32:59] What do you think he showed me?

[00:33:00] I don't want to know.

[00:33:01] He was preparing swarms of locusts.

[00:33:06] Always with the fucking locusts.

[00:33:07] After the king's share had been harvested.

[00:33:10] And just as the late crops were coming up.

[00:33:13] When they had stripped the land clean.

[00:33:15] I cried out.

[00:33:17] Sovereign Lord forgive.

[00:33:19] How can Jacob survive?

[00:33:21] He is so small.

[00:33:23] Yeah.

[00:33:24] I mean.

[00:33:24] That's a good question.

[00:33:25] I guess.

[00:33:26] You're destroying all their crops.

[00:33:27] Except for the king's share apparently.

[00:33:28] Yeah.

[00:33:29] Yeah.

[00:33:29] The king guy is.

[00:33:30] And there was nothing left.

[00:33:31] That seems really unfair.

[00:33:32] Right?

[00:33:32] I mean.

[00:33:33] He punishes everybody except the king?

[00:33:36] From what I understand.

[00:33:38] Tariffs will set us all free.

[00:33:39] And tariffs are merely taxes.

[00:33:42] And taxes are beautiful things that are.

[00:33:47] Somebody pays them.

[00:33:49] But it's not the rich.

[00:33:50] Rich.

[00:33:51] Yeah.

[00:33:52] It gets translated down to the cost of goods.

[00:33:54] Because tariffs get.

[00:33:56] They tax other countries for importing goods.

[00:33:58] So therefore when those goods come in.

[00:34:00] The only thing I can hear.

[00:34:02] Is that.

[00:34:03] I am rich.

[00:34:05] And I don't have to pay them.

[00:34:06] And.

[00:34:07] Oh no.

[00:34:07] They have to pay them.

[00:34:08] But it doesn't affect them nearly as much.

[00:34:09] But I'm the king.

[00:34:10] And I get everything good.

[00:34:12] If you're rich.

[00:34:13] A raise of $25.

[00:34:14] And the price of a washing machine.

[00:34:16] Doesn't hurt you as much.

[00:34:17] As if your income is $30,000 a year.

[00:34:20] All I can hear you saying.

[00:34:22] Is that I'm rich.

[00:34:23] And my taxes are not going up.

[00:34:26] That's all I can hear.

[00:34:27] Okay.

[00:34:28] And my eggs will be affordable.

[00:34:30] Got it.

[00:34:30] That's what I hear.

[00:34:32] Your eggs won't be affordable.

[00:34:33] That's what I'm hearing though.

[00:34:35] That's the only thing I can hear you say.

[00:34:37] The word.

[00:34:39] Okay.

[00:34:40] We're talking about God.

[00:34:41] Why okay.

[00:34:41] For those of you who don't know.

[00:34:43] Trump got elected.

[00:34:43] I don't know how you wouldn't know that.

[00:34:45] But there it is.

[00:34:47] And wife is on a Trump tear.

[00:34:50] So.

[00:34:51] It's not my fault.

[00:34:53] Everything for the next six months possibly has a.

[00:34:57] I would say 20% chance of reminding wife of something.

[00:35:01] Look.

[00:35:01] You're like.

[00:35:02] It doesn't seem fair that the king gets his share first.

[00:35:05] And I'm like.

[00:35:06] Doesn't it?

[00:35:07] That's what we do in America.

[00:35:09] That's literally what we just elected.

[00:35:11] So.

[00:35:12] I mean.

[00:35:12] It's not my fault.

[00:35:14] It's not my fault.

[00:35:15] I mean.

[00:35:16] My mind didn't go there.

[00:35:17] But.

[00:35:17] You know.

[00:35:18] Well.

[00:35:18] You are not a small woman in America.

[00:35:23] So.

[00:35:24] There it is.

[00:35:25] I know you hate it when I go there.

[00:35:26] But that's how it goes.

[00:35:28] Right.

[00:35:28] That's how it be.

[00:35:29] I.

[00:35:30] Okay.

[00:35:31] Fucking eggs.

[00:35:31] Get the fuck out of here.

[00:35:32] Anyway.

[00:35:34] It's so small.

[00:35:35] So the Lord relented.

[00:35:37] Well.

[00:35:37] That was lucky.

[00:35:39] Wow.

[00:35:39] This will not happen.

[00:35:41] The Lord said.

[00:35:42] Nice.

[00:35:43] Wait.

[00:35:44] So.

[00:35:45] Did this.

[00:35:46] I'm assuming this is Amos.

[00:35:47] That's like.

[00:35:48] Hey dude.

[00:35:49] Like.

[00:35:49] Can you not.

[00:35:50] But like.

[00:35:50] How do they know he was going to send locusts?

[00:35:53] Maybe.

[00:35:53] Did he like.

[00:35:54] Have like a locust plague.

[00:35:55] That he just like.

[00:35:56] Showed them from the clouds.

[00:35:57] Like.

[00:35:57] Hey.

[00:35:57] What do you think man?

[00:35:58] I.

[00:35:58] I thought I saw a locust today.

[00:36:00] Lord.

[00:36:01] Can you not.

[00:36:01] Send him this.

[00:36:02] And the Lord was like.

[00:36:03] Yeah.

[00:36:04] All right.

[00:36:04] This will not happen.

[00:36:06] Amos is like.

[00:36:06] We did this in the last book man.

[00:36:08] Don't do it again.

[00:36:09] Don't do it.

[00:36:10] This is what the sovereign Lord showed me.

[00:36:13] The sovereign Lord was calling for judgment by fire.

[00:36:17] So first there were locusts.

[00:36:19] Then there was fire.

[00:36:20] Can we go back to the locusts maybe?

[00:36:22] No.

[00:36:23] No.

[00:36:23] Also.

[00:36:24] I read that by fire.

[00:36:25] He may or may not have actually.

[00:36:27] He meant drought.

[00:36:28] Oh.

[00:36:29] Fire.

[00:36:29] Drought.

[00:36:30] Whatever.

[00:36:30] That's not confusing at all.

[00:36:32] No.

[00:36:32] No.

[00:36:32] Okay.

[00:36:33] It dried up the great deep and devoured the land.

[00:36:37] Then I cried out.

[00:36:38] Sovereign Lord.

[00:36:39] I beg you.

[00:36:39] Stop.

[00:36:41] How can Jacob survive?

[00:36:42] He is so small.

[00:36:44] Yeah.

[00:36:45] So the Lord relented.

[00:36:46] You know how it be.

[00:36:47] You know how when you ask God.

[00:36:49] Wait.

[00:36:49] Hey.

[00:36:49] Could you not.

[00:36:50] Is he doing these things?

[00:36:51] Or is he just telling Amos.

[00:36:53] Hey.

[00:36:53] I'm going to.

[00:36:53] I'm going to do these things.

[00:36:54] This is what the sovereign Lord showed me.

[00:36:57] Okay.

[00:36:57] Okay.

[00:36:58] So like these are visions.

[00:36:59] Can we interpret it as like a vision maybe?

[00:37:01] Yes.

[00:37:01] Okay.

[00:37:01] He's giving him visions.

[00:37:03] There's three of them.

[00:37:04] We've read two.

[00:37:05] Got it.

[00:37:05] Okay.

[00:37:05] So this is like the ghost of Christmas past and future and present and all that.

[00:37:09] And the three little pigs and the three bears.

[00:37:12] Got it.

[00:37:12] Yeah.

[00:37:12] There's always three.

[00:37:13] Yeah.

[00:37:13] Okay.

[00:37:14] Okay.

[00:37:14] So anyway.

[00:37:15] I'm like me Amos.

[00:37:17] I'm like oh don't do fire and whatever.

[00:37:21] And then the Lord's like hey fine.

[00:37:24] So the Lord relented.

[00:37:25] This will not happen either.

[00:37:26] The sovereign Lord said.

[00:37:28] Okay.

[00:37:28] I mean.

[00:37:29] I don't really see why though.

[00:37:31] Just because this one guy is like dude don't please.

[00:37:34] Right.

[00:37:35] Like you know you just pray and God gives you whatever you want.

[00:37:38] He lets your football team win.

[00:37:40] But for just like one guy?

[00:37:41] Yeah.

[00:37:41] One guy.

[00:37:42] Sure.

[00:37:42] Okay.

[00:37:43] Amos said so.

[00:37:44] He's getting ready to punish an entire nation.

[00:37:46] Group of people.

[00:37:47] Yeah.

[00:37:47] And Amos is like please don't.

[00:37:49] And then he's like all right.

[00:37:51] Sure.

[00:37:51] Sure.

[00:37:52] All right.

[00:37:52] This makes no sense.

[00:37:53] No.

[00:37:54] Not at all.

[00:37:54] This is what he showed me.

[00:37:56] The Lord was standing by a wall that had been built true to plum with a plum line in

[00:38:01] his hand.

[00:38:02] And the Lord asked me what do you see Amos?

[00:38:07] A plum line.

[00:38:08] I replied.

[00:38:09] Then the Lord said look I am setting a plum line among my people Israel.

[00:38:14] I have a note on this.

[00:38:16] Okay.

[00:38:16] I will spare them no longer.

[00:38:18] The high places of Isaac will be destroyed and the sanctuaries of Israel will be ruined

[00:38:23] with my sword.

[00:38:24] I will rise against the house of Jeroboam.

[00:38:29] All right.

[00:38:29] But let's find out what the fuck do you mean by plum line again?

[00:38:32] Sure.

[00:38:32] Sure.

[00:38:33] Yeah.

[00:38:33] Because I was like can can you give me a what?

[00:38:37] Okay.

[00:38:38] Yeah.

[00:38:38] Okay.

[00:38:39] So sorry I'm scrolling scrolling scrolling.

[00:38:43] Okay.

[00:38:44] The Lord plum line in his hand.

[00:38:47] Yeah.

[00:38:47] A plum line or a plum bob or a plummet.

[00:38:51] Okay.

[00:38:51] Okay.

[00:38:51] It's a tool to measure not only for building but also for pulling down what should be done

[00:38:58] in the midst of the people that all might be tried individually and that all might acknowledge

[00:39:03] the justice of the sentence which is a complete ruin.

[00:39:07] Hmm.

[00:39:08] Hmm.

[00:39:08] The Vulgate Latin version renders it a plasterer's or mason's trowel instead of a plum line.

[00:39:17] With which they lay their plaster and mortar on in a building.

[00:39:22] Okay.

[00:39:23] Yeah.

[00:39:23] The Septuagint that's the Greek.

[00:39:25] Yeah.

[00:39:26] Translates it as an adamant.

[00:39:29] What's an adamant?

[00:39:30] An adamant what?

[00:39:31] I've heard that before.

[00:39:32] An adamant is an adjective.

[00:39:38] Well is it or is there a different meaning for it?

[00:39:42] Well something can be adamant.

[00:39:43] I don't know that something is an adamant.

[00:39:45] Got it.

[00:39:46] Got it.

[00:39:46] Is it a noun?

[00:39:48] It's a mythical substance apparently.

[00:39:49] A stone or metal believed to be indestructible.

[00:39:52] Oh.

[00:39:53] Oh like adamantium.

[00:39:54] Yeah.

[00:39:55] Or like vibranium or whatever.

[00:39:58] Yeah.

[00:39:58] Yeah.

[00:39:58] Like from Wakanda.

[00:40:00] Yeah.

[00:40:00] Okay.

[00:40:01] And it's often associated with like diamonds and things like that.

[00:40:04] Yeah.

[00:40:04] Yeah.

[00:40:04] Like isn't adamantium isn't that like what Wolverine's claws are made out of or some shit like that?

[00:40:10] Yeah.

[00:40:10] Yeah.

[00:40:10] Okay.

[00:40:11] Okay.

[00:40:12] It's adamantium then not adamant.

[00:40:14] Oof.

[00:40:15] All right.

[00:40:16] So yeah that's what it is in that book.

[00:40:19] Yeah.

[00:40:19] And it is called Anachetes by Pliny who was one of those early philosopher guys.

[00:40:25] Yeah.

[00:40:26] He was one of the.

[00:40:27] Yeah.

[00:40:27] Yeah.

[00:40:27] A word in sound near to what is being used here.

[00:40:32] What's an Anachetes?

[00:40:34] I didn't look that up.

[00:40:35] I meant to.

[00:40:35] How do you spell that?

[00:40:36] A-N-A-C-H-I-T-E-S.

[00:40:41] Anachetes or Anachites.

[00:40:43] Okay.

[00:40:44] Anachites.

[00:40:45] Got it.

[00:40:45] I'm looking it up right now so we'll see what I can come up with here.

[00:40:51] Oh that's just the it's.

[00:40:53] More adamantium?

[00:40:54] It's the giants mentioned in the Bible.

[00:40:57] Ooh.

[00:40:58] That's fun.

[00:40:58] Probably.

[00:40:59] The Anachites not.

[00:41:00] Yeah.

[00:41:00] Anachetes.

[00:41:02] Or.

[00:41:02] The Anachites?

[00:41:03] Or it's a gemstone also.

[00:41:05] Oh.

[00:41:06] Interesting.

[00:41:06] There's a precious stone.

[00:41:07] Okay.

[00:41:08] Mentioned in some ancient texts.

[00:41:09] But it says one in the Bible though.

[00:41:10] It should be the.

[00:41:12] The giants.

[00:41:12] The giants.

[00:41:13] The Amalekites?

[00:41:14] The.

[00:41:15] No.

[00:41:16] Anachim.

[00:41:17] Anachim.

[00:41:18] Anachim.

[00:41:18] Huh.

[00:41:19] Okay.

[00:41:19] A race of giants mentioned in the Bible.

[00:41:21] Okay.

[00:41:22] I'm so confused.

[00:41:22] And I don't know like how you pronounced it when we read it so.

[00:41:27] Anachetes.

[00:41:28] So I.

[00:41:29] It could be all.

[00:41:30] I don't know.

[00:41:31] That is so funny.

[00:41:32] And then the Targum renders it judgment.

[00:41:37] Okay.

[00:41:37] In the Arabic tongue it signifies either lead or tin and thus is a line with lead at the end of it.

[00:41:46] Okay.

[00:41:46] So I don't know what any of that means but it's a plumb line.

[00:41:50] Sure.

[00:41:52] Plumb line.

[00:41:52] And he's holding it because he's gonna.

[00:41:55] It sounds almost Wiccan.

[00:41:57] Like I'm imagining like a Wiccan person with a pendulum.

[00:42:02] Right.

[00:42:02] Like with a chain and at the end of the chain is a like a pendant.

[00:42:09] You know.

[00:42:10] Right.

[00:42:10] And they're like trying to see if it swings.

[00:42:14] And if it does like if it swings a certain way the answer is yes and the other way is no.

[00:42:19] And it's like that's how you're being judged.

[00:42:22] Like that's what it sounds like to me.

[00:42:24] Like this sounds Wiccan.

[00:42:26] All right.

[00:42:27] I just.

[00:42:27] Because I was a little bit confused because it was.

[00:42:30] They were trying.

[00:42:31] Like they talked about the locusts and then they talked about.

[00:42:35] The fire.

[00:42:36] The fire.

[00:42:37] Mm-hmm.

[00:42:37] And those made sense as far as.

[00:42:39] What that is.

[00:42:40] But.

[00:42:40] And then the third vision is judgment of some kind.

[00:42:43] Yeah.

[00:42:44] And actually that's.

[00:42:44] I just kind of like did a brief thing here.

[00:42:46] But yeah.

[00:42:46] It's just like.

[00:42:47] It's an assessment.

[00:42:49] Basically.

[00:42:49] Yeah.

[00:42:49] Their.

[00:42:50] Their deeds and their.

[00:42:51] Right.

[00:42:51] Whatever.

[00:42:52] Yeah.

[00:42:52] Judgment.

[00:42:53] Yeah.

[00:42:53] Judgment.

[00:42:54] Okay.

[00:42:54] It's just like the.

[00:42:55] What's the Wayne thing.

[00:42:56] The Wayne guy for the.

[00:42:58] Oh yeah.

[00:42:58] Yeah.

[00:42:58] Yeah.

[00:42:59] What is that guy's name?

[00:43:00] Oh he does the.

[00:43:02] He weighs your soul.

[00:43:03] Right.

[00:43:04] Yeah.

[00:43:04] And.

[00:43:05] Um.

[00:43:06] I forget.

[00:43:07] Isn't he the one that he weighs your soul before you can get on like the.

[00:43:11] The boat to cross.

[00:43:13] Or.

[00:43:13] That's Greek.

[00:43:14] Never mind.

[00:43:15] Um.

[00:43:15] Anubis it looks like.

[00:43:16] Yeah.

[00:43:16] Yeah.

[00:43:17] Okay.

[00:43:17] Anubis.

[00:43:18] Yeah.

[00:43:18] Yeah.

[00:43:18] I was getting him confused with the guy that rose the boat across the river Styx.

[00:43:22] Right.

[00:43:23] Well.

[00:43:23] He is the judge of the dead.

[00:43:24] So he's weighing the heart and.

[00:43:26] You know all that stuff.

[00:43:27] And that has to do with the afterlife and things like that.

[00:43:29] These guys are all called psychopomps.

[00:43:31] Yeah.

[00:43:32] Isn't that just the coolest word?

[00:43:33] It is a cool word.

[00:43:34] Yeah.

[00:43:34] I think I think I've done this before.

[00:43:36] You have.

[00:43:37] And you were like at the time like psychopomp.

[00:43:40] But now you're like yes I know.

[00:43:42] Yes.

[00:43:42] Yes.

[00:43:43] Of course.

[00:43:44] Psychopomp.

[00:43:44] Prom.

[00:43:45] Prom.

[00:43:46] All right.

[00:43:46] So now we're going to switch topics completely.

[00:43:49] Oh.

[00:43:50] And.

[00:43:50] Um.

[00:43:51] We'll talk about this more in the Q&A.

[00:43:53] Sure.

[00:43:53] I think.

[00:43:54] Okay.

[00:43:54] But.

[00:43:55] Um.

[00:43:55] Some Bible-y scholar people are like whoa this shit came out of nowhere and completely interrupted

[00:44:01] the visions.

[00:44:02] Because we're talking about something else now.

[00:44:04] Oh.

[00:44:05] Okay.

[00:44:05] Like.

[00:44:06] Just out of the field.

[00:44:07] Yeah.

[00:44:07] It's a whole new chapter but it's not a new chapter.

[00:44:10] Okay.

[00:44:10] Okay.

[00:44:11] Yeah.

[00:44:11] All right.

[00:44:12] So anyways.

[00:44:12] Back at the ranch.

[00:44:13] Yeah.

[00:44:15] Then Amaziah the priest of Bethel sent a message to Jeroboam king of Israel.

[00:44:20] Okay.

[00:44:20] Amos is raising a conspiracy against you in the very heart of Israel.

[00:44:26] The land cannot bear all of his words.

[00:44:29] But this is what Amos is saying.

[00:44:33] Jeroboam will die by the sword and Israel will surely go into exile away from their native land.

[00:44:40] Ugh.

[00:44:40] Yeah.

[00:44:41] This is very misplaced.

[00:44:42] Right?

[00:44:42] Yeah.

[00:44:43] Yeah.

[00:44:43] Then Amaziah.

[00:44:44] This is like so like high school girls.

[00:44:48] You know what I mean?

[00:44:48] Then Amaziah goes to Amos.

[00:44:51] Get out you seer.

[00:44:53] Ugh.

[00:44:53] Go back to the land of Judah.

[00:44:55] Earn your bread there.

[00:44:57] And do your prophesying there.

[00:44:59] Don't prophecy anymore at Bethel because this, this is the king's sanctuary and the temple

[00:45:04] of the kingdom.

[00:45:05] Boom.

[00:45:06] Yeah.

[00:45:07] Ugh.

[00:45:07] Like.

[00:45:07] Jeroboam's out of here.

[00:45:08] You could see that he like totally snapped his fingers in his face when he was done and

[00:45:13] was like, be gone, bitch.

[00:45:14] It's like he started, like if this was actually, you know, Amos writing this, it's like he

[00:45:18] started with one idea and then like he was like, these fuckers are trying to get me banished.

[00:45:23] I'm going to, I'm going to write about them.

[00:45:25] Yeah.

[00:45:25] You know?

[00:45:25] And then it was just like there.

[00:45:27] Yeah.

[00:45:27] You know?

[00:45:27] And then somebody just stapled it together without.

[00:45:30] I don't know why this is here, but the whatever it's here.

[00:45:32] So.

[00:45:32] All I did, I just picked up the pages on the floor.

[00:45:34] I didn't say this is the order they went.

[00:45:36] You told me to get the papers.

[00:45:37] You did not tell me to look at what page numbers.

[00:45:40] It's like when you go, are you sure they're all in the right order?

[00:45:44] Yeah.

[00:45:45] Yeah.

[00:45:45] They're all.

[00:45:46] Yes.

[00:45:46] They're all in the right order.

[00:45:48] I solemnly swear.

[00:45:49] I am up to no good.

[00:45:52] So then Amos answered Amaziah.

[00:45:55] I was neither a prophet nor the son of a prophet.

[00:45:58] You stupid bitch.

[00:45:59] But I was a shepherd.

[00:46:01] Hello.

[00:46:02] And I also took care of sycamore fig trees.

[00:46:06] But the Lord Amos is like, I'm not even a real prophet.

[00:46:10] And you're kicking me out for the shit I'm saying.

[00:46:12] It's not even my fault.

[00:46:14] But you're claiming to be a prophet.

[00:46:15] It's not my fault.

[00:46:16] God is telling me what to say.

[00:46:18] I'm just quoting God.

[00:46:20] Like, look, I'm Amos.

[00:46:21] Okay.

[00:46:22] You be.

[00:46:23] What's his name?

[00:46:24] Amaziah.

[00:46:25] Hold on, though.

[00:46:25] You be Amaziah.

[00:46:26] Before we get into the role play.

[00:46:28] Anybody could say they're talking for God.

[00:46:30] Of course.

[00:46:31] Anybody.

[00:46:31] Yes.

[00:46:31] So you're Amaziah.

[00:46:33] And you're like, be gone, bitch.

[00:46:34] Yeah, be gone, bitch.

[00:46:35] You know.

[00:46:36] I love that you don't want to call me a bitch.

[00:46:39] Oh, I love you.

[00:46:40] That's so sweet.

[00:46:41] Okay.

[00:46:42] So you're like, be gone, bitch.

[00:46:44] And then, okay.

[00:46:45] So now I am Amaz.

[00:46:46] I'm not even a prophet.

[00:46:48] For fuck's sake.

[00:46:49] Oh, my God.

[00:46:50] I just woke up one morning.

[00:46:51] And God was like this.

[00:46:53] And I showed you this.

[00:46:54] And I showed you that.

[00:46:55] And now you're making me go away.

[00:46:56] And it's not even my fault.

[00:46:58] What?

[00:46:59] Oh, my God.

[00:47:00] And then, okay.

[00:47:01] Now you.

[00:47:02] You be.

[00:47:02] And I was like, stop whining.

[00:47:04] Yeah.

[00:47:04] Stop whining.

[00:47:05] I'm not whining.

[00:47:07] It's just that this is my house.

[00:47:08] I just want to live here.

[00:47:09] Can't I just live?

[00:47:10] Can't I just live my life?

[00:47:12] Oh, my God.

[00:47:13] God.

[00:47:13] Sounds like the.

[00:47:14] He sounds like the guy from clerks.

[00:47:16] Dante.

[00:47:17] That he's like, I'm not even supposed to be here today.

[00:47:20] Oh, my God.

[00:47:21] Yeah.

[00:47:22] Except that he's not quite as whiny as what I was doing.

[00:47:24] He was pretty.

[00:47:25] I mean, he was like, I'm not even supposed to be here today.

[00:47:27] He was kind of shitty about it the whole time.

[00:47:29] Shitty, but not whiny.

[00:47:30] Right.

[00:47:30] Yeah.

[00:47:31] Like, he was like, I'm not even supposed to be here today.

[00:47:33] No, he had a couple of like fit throwing things where he was like, I'm not even, you

[00:47:35] know, whatever.

[00:47:36] I'm not even supposed to be here today.

[00:47:37] Right.

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:38] He was pretty.

[00:47:39] But he wasn't like.

[00:47:41] Well, I mean, to be fair, you're.

[00:47:43] Adding that inflection to this.

[00:47:45] I am.

[00:47:45] Because because I am.

[00:47:48] I'm putting my voice.

[00:47:50] This is how I would sound if I was bitching and moaning.

[00:47:52] Yeah.

[00:47:53] Yeah.

[00:47:53] But the Lord took me, Amos, from tending the flock.

[00:47:57] You know, like I'm just laying there.

[00:47:59] I'm just like watching my sheep and whatever.

[00:48:01] OK.

[00:48:02] And then the Lord took me and said to me, go prophecy to my people, Israel.

[00:48:07] Now, then hear the word of the Lord.

[00:48:09] Lord, you say, do not prophecy against Israel and stop preaching against the descendants

[00:48:13] of Isaac.

[00:48:14] But therefore, this is what the Lord says.

[00:48:18] Maybe we should just.

[00:48:19] Maybe we're going about this whole thing all wrong.

[00:48:21] We are.

[00:48:22] Maybe we should just get out there and be like, God told us to say this.

[00:48:25] God said that.

[00:48:27] Did you know it's very easy to set up a church?

[00:48:29] Yeah.

[00:48:30] Yeah.

[00:48:30] God.

[00:48:30] God told us that all people should be treated and respected equally.

[00:48:37] Women's rights should be reinstated.

[00:48:38] God said.

[00:48:39] I don't.

[00:48:40] God said.

[00:48:40] Don't look at me.

[00:48:41] God said this.

[00:48:41] He just he told me to tell you.

[00:48:43] We should we should like reprint the Bible, but only the good bits.

[00:48:49] That's going to be real short.

[00:48:50] I know.

[00:48:50] Very short.

[00:48:51] Very short.

[00:48:52] And you got to take out like to be fair.

[00:48:53] People don't really like to read.

[00:48:54] So that might actually go over.

[00:48:55] That's what I'm saying.

[00:48:56] Like we just took out the boring bits.

[00:48:58] This is the good bits.

[00:48:59] Yeah.

[00:49:00] And and paraphrase it, you know.

[00:49:02] Yeah.

[00:49:02] Just put it.

[00:49:03] Yeah.

[00:49:04] Hell, just make up shit.

[00:49:05] Most people aren't even going to know what was in there anyway.

[00:49:07] That's what I'm saying.

[00:49:07] So just make it sound sort of like, you know, old style language.

[00:49:11] Yeah.

[00:49:12] And rewrite it and then just be like, here's the Bible, guys.

[00:49:15] This is by, you know, I don't care if that's not the Bible.

[00:49:18] That's the one God told me is the Bible.

[00:49:19] God told me that thou art wearing pink on Wednesdays.

[00:49:22] Yeah.

[00:49:23] It's not my fault.

[00:49:24] I had wife write this while I had my head in a toilet.

[00:49:27] And that's what God had me do.

[00:49:30] Look, all I did was tell chat GPT to channel God.

[00:49:35] And this is what came out.

[00:49:37] And you are telling me that is not correct.

[00:49:39] I call bullshit.

[00:49:41] Right.

[00:49:42] Nobody could direct chat GPT better than God.

[00:49:46] Right.

[00:49:46] Are you saying God could not type these words?

[00:49:50] Blasphemer.

[00:49:51] Right.

[00:49:51] Oh, my gosh.

[00:49:52] You are going to burn, sir.

[00:49:54] I recommend you get your rainbows in order and you start appealing to your neighbors.

[00:50:00] Yeah.

[00:50:00] Hmm.

[00:50:01] Anyways, your wife will become a prostitute.

[00:50:04] Just saying in the city.

[00:50:06] Okay.

[00:50:07] Like I'm Amos and I'm talking to Amaziah.

[00:50:09] Yeah.

[00:50:09] And I'm like, remember how you just told me to get the fuck out?

[00:50:12] And I was like, but I'm just a lowly farm boy.

[00:50:15] And you're like, so get.

[00:50:17] And I'm like, but I don't even know anything.

[00:50:20] God just told me this shit.

[00:50:22] Guess what?

[00:50:23] What?

[00:50:23] Your wife will become a prostitute in the city.

[00:50:26] I'm sorry.

[00:50:27] Damn.

[00:50:27] And your sons and daughters will fall by the sword.

[00:50:30] Whatever.

[00:50:30] Your kids are just going to die.

[00:50:31] Hmm.

[00:50:32] Yeah.

[00:50:32] Whatever.

[00:50:33] Right.

[00:50:33] Your land will be measured and divided up and you yourself will die in a pagan country.

[00:50:38] I'm just saying.

[00:50:39] And Israel will surely go into exile away from their native land.

[00:50:43] The end.

[00:50:43] I'm just telling you what God said.

[00:50:44] I don't know.

[00:50:45] Wow.

[00:50:46] Yeah.

[00:50:46] That was a phone drop, people.

[00:50:48] That was a mic drop.

[00:50:48] Not a mic drop, but a phone drop.

[00:50:50] Well, it was by the mic and it could have been a mic drop if you had not said that it wasn't.

[00:50:57] Oh, yeah.

[00:50:57] That's true.

[00:50:58] I could have.

[00:50:58] I could have said that.

[00:50:59] Yeah.

[00:50:59] Yeah.

[00:50:59] He was just basically like your wife is going to be a fucking whore and your kids are going

[00:51:05] to die and you're going to get shipped out and then you're going to die too.

[00:51:09] How do you feel about that?

[00:51:10] Did you want to still exile me, asshole?

[00:51:14] Take it back.

[00:51:15] Take it back.

[00:51:16] I had AI write a short version of the Bible.

[00:51:19] You want to hear it?

[00:51:20] I do.

[00:51:21] You do?

[00:51:21] What did God tell you?

[00:51:22] So this is AI channeling God to write a short version of the Bible.

[00:51:26] First, you got to read your prompt.

[00:51:27] So my prompt was channel God and write a short version of the Bible in a fifth grade wording.

[00:51:31] Oh, I love it.

[00:51:32] That's exactly how I would have done it too.

[00:51:35] So here's what it says.

[00:51:37] The big story of the Bible.

[00:51:40] In the beginning, there was nothing.

[00:51:42] Then God said, let there be light.

[00:51:44] And bam, the whole universe was born.

[00:51:47] He made the stars, the sun, the moon, earth, and all the awesome animals.

[00:51:51] He even made special humans, Adam and Eve, to live in a beautiful garden.

[00:51:56] But Adam and Eve broke a rule.

[00:51:59] And that messed things up.

[00:52:01] Life got harder and people started making bad choices.

[00:52:04] But God still loved them.

[00:52:06] He promised to send someone special to help.

[00:52:09] Meanwhile, God chose a guy named Abraham and his family to become a special group.

[00:52:14] He gave them rules to follow and promised to bless them.

[00:52:17] They had some wild adventures, like when Moses led them out of Egypt and Joseph saved them from a famine.

[00:52:22] I can't with this.

[00:52:23] I hate it so much.

[00:52:25] Go on.

[00:52:25] Finally, God sent his son, Jesus, to earth.

[00:52:29] Jesus was super kind and taught everyone about God's love.

[00:52:33] He even did miracles like healing sick people and making blind people see.

[00:52:37] The way you spoke, it sounded like you said killing blind people instead of healing.

[00:52:43] Healing.

[00:52:44] Healing.

[00:52:45] Sorry.

[00:52:45] Not the best reader.

[00:52:47] I don't.

[00:52:48] Keep going.

[00:52:49] Keep going.

[00:52:49] But some people didn't like Jesus and were mean to him.

[00:52:52] Yeah, because kindness never sells.

[00:52:54] We only like hate and Nazism in this world.

[00:52:57] They even put him on a cross.

[00:52:59] Yes, they did.

[00:53:00] Yeah.

[00:53:00] But guess what?

[00:53:02] What?

[00:53:02] Jesus rose from the dead.

[00:53:04] No way.

[00:53:05] He showed everyone that he was stronger than death and promised to always be there with them.

[00:53:10] After that, oh, I'm sorry.

[00:53:12] Always be there with them.

[00:53:13] After that, his friends spread his message of love and forgiveness all over the world.

[00:53:17] His friends, huh?

[00:53:18] Yeah.

[00:53:19] Okay.

[00:53:19] The Bible's two main parts.

[00:53:21] Old Testament.

[00:53:21] Stories are about creation, Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, Moses, and the Ten Commandments.

[00:53:26] It's all about God's promises and how he chose a special group of people.

[00:53:29] That's what it's all about.

[00:53:30] New Testament.

[00:53:32] All about Jesus's life, his teachings, his death on the cross, and his amazing resurrection.

[00:53:36] It also tells how his friends shared his message with everyone.

[00:53:40] The main point.

[00:53:41] God loves everyone so much.

[00:53:44] He wants us to be kind to each other, follow his rules, and trust in Jesus.

[00:53:47] If we do that, we can be friends with God forever and ever.

[00:53:51] What if we don't do that?

[00:53:54] Then we can't be friends with God?

[00:53:55] Apparently.

[00:53:56] Who's going to tell the Nazis?

[00:53:59] Who's going to tell Trump?

[00:54:01] Oh, I'm so sad for these.

[00:54:03] They don't get to be friends with God forever and ever.

[00:54:04] We really need to finish our version of the Bible.

[00:54:07] We've started kind of writing our version of the Bible.

[00:54:10] Yeah.

[00:54:11] We really need to get that done.

[00:54:13] We do need to get that done.

[00:54:14] Because I'm so looking.

[00:54:15] So we plan on writing one for ourselves, and we're going to do it book by book.

[00:54:20] So like Genesis, and then so on and so forth.

[00:54:22] And incorporate stuff from our podcast.

[00:54:25] Yeah.

[00:54:25] It's going to be a really fun project, I think, by the time we're done with it.

[00:54:28] But it's going to take a long time.

[00:54:30] An undertaking.

[00:54:32] Yeah.

[00:54:32] Don't have any illusions that it's coming out like next week or even next month or probably

[00:54:36] even in the next year.

[00:54:38] Right.

[00:54:38] But at some point.

[00:54:40] At some point.

[00:54:41] It's something we want to do.

[00:54:41] Yeah.

[00:54:42] Because it just seems like fun.

[00:54:43] It seems like we should.

[00:54:45] It seems like we should.

[00:54:46] We've come this far.

[00:54:47] If there's anybody that was meant to do that, it was us.

[00:54:50] And God has spoken.

[00:54:51] What can you do?

[00:54:53] We were just out there tending our sheep.

[00:54:55] And then one day God was like, go read the Bible and talk about how much of a dick I am.

[00:55:00] You know, honestly, I think it was more like we have spoken.

[00:55:03] Oh, yeah.

[00:55:03] You and I have spoken.

[00:55:17] Oh, yeah.

[00:55:18] Yeah.

[00:55:18] Yeah.

[00:55:19] And you were like, I'm sorry, what?

[00:55:20] And I was like, you wanted to do a podcast.

[00:55:22] Yeah.

[00:55:23] Let's read the Bible.

[00:55:24] It's material for like it's turtles all the way down.

[00:55:27] You know, we'll never have.

[00:55:28] We'll never run out.

[00:55:29] Yeah.

[00:55:29] It's.

[00:55:30] Yeah.

[00:55:30] Yeah.

[00:55:30] And you were like, you were like, I don't want to read the Bible.

[00:55:33] I was like, I don't either.

[00:55:34] That's why it'll be fun.

[00:55:35] Right.

[00:55:36] And it is.

[00:55:37] It's the funnest.

[00:55:38] It's so horrible.

[00:55:38] I hate it.

[00:55:39] It's so horrible.

[00:55:40] But fun.

[00:55:40] I mean, I mean, this is fun.

[00:55:42] Yeah.

[00:55:42] Today was fun because it's so fucking stupid.

[00:55:45] Right.

[00:55:45] Yeah.

[00:55:46] I'm not even a prophet.

[00:55:48] Like what?

[00:55:49] Not even supposed to be here today.

[00:55:53] All right.

[00:55:54] That was Amos chapter seven.

[00:55:56] It sure as fuck was.

[00:55:58] Oh, my God.

[00:55:58] I missed a Ghostbusters reference.

[00:56:00] What?

[00:56:01] Oh, my God.

[00:56:02] It's totally Winston Zedmore when they're in jail.

[00:56:04] And Winston Zedmore's like, I wasn't even there.

[00:56:07] I don't even.

[00:56:08] I just work for these guys.

[00:56:10] Oh, yeah.

[00:56:10] Yeah.

[00:56:11] Yeah.

[00:56:11] Yeah.

[00:56:11] I can't believe you missed a.

[00:56:13] I mean, you didn't.

[00:56:13] I almost missed it.

[00:56:14] You almost missed it.

[00:56:15] Yeah.

[00:56:15] Yeah.

[00:56:16] Yeah.

[00:56:16] That would have been tragic.

[00:56:17] It would have been tragic.

[00:56:18] You probably would have had to start the next episode with that.

[00:56:20] I would have.

[00:56:21] If it occurred to you after we got done.

[00:56:22] Yeah.

[00:56:23] Okay.

[00:56:23] Sorry.

[00:56:24] It didn't.

[00:56:24] Right.

[00:56:25] Yes.

[00:56:25] I got it in.

[00:56:26] Yeah.

[00:56:26] So that was Amos chapter seven.

[00:56:28] And a Ghostbusters reference.

[00:56:29] And a Ghostbusters reference.

[00:56:30] Yes.

[00:56:30] Which means we'll be back tomorrow with.

[00:56:32] Not a Ghostbusters reference unless there's a new one.

[00:56:35] And a mouse chapter eight.

[00:56:37] Amos chapter eight.

[00:56:38] A mouse.

[00:56:40] See you guys.

[00:56:41] Bye.

[00:56:47] Wife.

[00:56:48] Do you know where we are and how the hell we got here?

[00:56:52] Well, last time we read Amos.

[00:56:55] Amos.

[00:56:56] Yeah.

[00:56:56] Amos.

[00:56:57] Amos.

[00:56:57] Chapter seven.

[00:56:57] Yes.

[00:56:58] Yes, we did.

[00:56:59] And in that chapter, God tried to bring the locusts again.

[00:57:03] Yeah, he did.

[00:57:04] Amos was like, nah.

[00:57:05] And God was like, oh, all right.

[00:57:07] Yeah.

[00:57:07] And then and then God tried to bring fire.

[00:57:09] And Amos was like, nah.

[00:57:11] And God was like, all right.

[00:57:13] And then and then God tried to bring a plumb line.

[00:57:16] And God was like, huh?

[00:57:18] You mean Amos?

[00:57:19] Yeah.

[00:57:19] Yeah.

[00:57:20] I'm like, what?

[00:57:21] Plumb line.

[00:57:21] Anyway.

[00:57:22] Yeah.

[00:57:23] And then.

[00:57:24] And then.

[00:57:24] The whole fucking story changes something about Amaziah and some other shit.

[00:57:27] And I'm like, what is going on?

[00:57:29] I know.

[00:57:29] It just moved along to something else.

[00:57:31] And I'm like, where did where did this go?

[00:57:33] What is it?

[00:57:33] What is going on?

[00:57:34] It was like a completely different chapter.

[00:57:36] Yeah.

[00:57:36] And Amaziah was like, bitch, bye.

[00:57:39] And then and then what's his name?

[00:57:43] Amos was like, I just work here.

[00:57:45] What the fuck?

[00:57:45] I'm not even a prophet.

[00:57:47] It's my day off.

[00:57:48] I know.

[00:57:48] Whatever.

[00:57:48] I wasn't even supposed to be in today.

[00:57:50] Yeah.

[00:57:51] And then Amaziah was like, bye, Felicia.

[00:57:54] Right.

[00:57:55] Yeah.

[00:57:55] Like, I don't want to hear your shit.

[00:57:57] Yeah.

[00:57:57] It was like it was like it was a journal entry.

[00:57:59] They just shoved into the Bible.

[00:58:01] And then and then and then all of a sudden Amaziah was like, well, just so you know, your

[00:58:06] fucking bitch of a wife is going to be a whore and your kids are going to die.

[00:58:11] And also you're going to die.

[00:58:12] So, OK, bye.

[00:58:13] Right.

[00:58:13] Sounds totally godly.

[00:58:16] And not petty.

[00:58:18] Not at all.

[00:58:18] No, no.

[00:58:19] Yeah.

[00:58:19] And definitely how we speak to each other.

[00:58:21] Yeah, for sure.

[00:58:22] Yeah.

[00:58:23] So anyway, that was Amos chapter seven.

[00:58:25] Yes.

[00:58:26] Which means that today we're getting into Amos chapter eight.

[00:58:30] All right.

[00:58:31] Let's do this.

[00:58:32] Okie dokie.

[00:58:35] Okie.

[00:58:38] Okie.

[00:58:38] Okie.

[00:58:40] Okie.

[00:58:55] Okie.

[00:58:56] Well, you're going to die.

[00:58:58] Like what?

[00:58:59] Just now in the opening.

[00:59:00] Yeah.

[00:59:00] When Amaziah was like, bye, leave.

[00:59:03] And then Amos was like, no, by the way, your wife is going to die.

[00:59:09] So fuck off.

[00:59:09] Sure.

[00:59:10] Right.

[00:59:10] Yeah.

[00:59:11] OK.

[00:59:11] So it reminded me of this time when a mutual friend on Facebook and I got a mutual friend

[00:59:21] of a friend.

[00:59:22] Right.

[00:59:22] Uh huh.

[00:59:23] Me and this guy got into an argument.

[00:59:26] Right.

[00:59:26] Sure.

[00:59:27] And then the mutual friend was like, you guys stop arguing and oh no.

[00:59:32] And this is so and don't.

[00:59:34] And I was like, I'm just trying to point out like he doesn't have to agree with me.

[00:59:38] I'm not I'm not trying to back him into a corner here.

[00:59:40] I'm just voicing my opinion.

[00:59:42] Like, I feel like what he said was sexist and I laid out my reasons why and I wasn't antagonistic.

[00:59:48] And he is like saying, no, it wasn't.

[00:59:51] And I'm like, I'm not here to argue if it was or wasn't.

[00:59:53] I'm here to tell you why I felt like it was to me.

[00:59:57] Right.

[00:59:57] And why other people might feel the same way.

[01:00:00] Yeah.

[01:00:00] Yeah.

[01:00:00] And then the dude goes die mad.

[01:00:05] And then like, I have never had somebody tell me that before.

[01:00:09] And I was so taken aback.

[01:00:11] I was just like, what?

[01:00:13] Right.

[01:00:14] Right.

[01:00:14] Like, that's so like over the top.

[01:00:16] Like, oh, my God.

[01:00:18] And then and then the mutual friend.

[01:00:20] Yeah.

[01:00:20] He goes, you know, I really wish you guys weren't arguing like this.

[01:00:24] I feel like you would be friends if you knew each other in real life.

[01:00:27] And all I could think was none of the friends that I have either in real life or on Facebook,

[01:00:33] to my knowledge, would say something so egregious even to somebody they hate.

[01:00:40] Right.

[01:00:41] Die mad.

[01:00:42] Like, that's the kind of shit that I expect from, say, hateful Christians or like Republicans

[01:00:51] that are like evangelical out there.

[01:00:53] MAGA, you know, like those kind of people.

[01:00:57] Right.

[01:00:57] Like, I have a very specific image in my head of who might say something like that.

[01:01:03] Right.

[01:01:03] And my friends do not fall into that crowd.

[01:01:06] And I was just like, die mad.

[01:01:09] Wow.

[01:01:09] And that's like what Amos made me think of.

[01:01:13] Got it.

[01:01:13] He's like, die mad.

[01:01:15] And your wife, who's a whore.

[01:01:17] And your kids.

[01:01:18] I just find it funny that the Bible gets so petty about shit.

[01:01:22] Yeah.

[01:01:22] Like, I mean, it makes there's nothing that makes it so obvious that the Bible is

[01:01:26] written by man and created by man and not anything to do with the fucking God.

[01:01:33] Yeah.

[01:01:33] More so than the pettiness.

[01:01:36] Yeah.

[01:01:36] The small.

[01:01:37] Some of the shit that they talk about.

[01:01:39] Yeah.

[01:01:39] It's so fucking small minded and so just.

[01:01:42] Like, why would a God concern themselves with some of this shit?

[01:01:45] Yeah.

[01:01:45] Like, it doesn't make any sense.

[01:01:46] Yeah.

[01:01:47] I can't understand why a God would care about just the small beans of everything.

[01:01:52] And if they did, why would they no longer care about how the daily, you know, ins and outs

[01:02:01] of the world are taking place?

[01:02:03] Like, why is this God no longer present in these small things but was back then?

[01:02:09] Yeah.

[01:02:09] Back then when it didn't really matter and now could, like, blow up the planet.

[01:02:15] Right.

[01:02:15] Like, I think you're doing it backwards, God.

[01:02:18] Yeah.

[01:02:18] Right.

[01:02:18] Your plan is not ineffable.

[01:02:21] Yeah.

[01:02:21] It's very effable.

[01:02:23] Definitely.

[01:02:24] Definitely.

[01:02:24] All right.

[01:02:25] I'm so sorry.

[01:02:25] Let's read about fruit baskets.

[01:02:27] Yes.

[01:02:27] Or there's a manga called Fruits Basket.

[01:02:32] Got it.

[01:02:32] And that's where I got that from.

[01:02:34] Anyway.

[01:02:34] Okay.

[01:02:35] So this.

[01:02:36] Did you want to tell them why it's like there's a, I saw that there's a.

[01:02:39] No.

[01:02:40] Okay.

[01:02:40] We're going to get into it.

[01:02:41] Okay.

[01:02:41] Okay.

[01:02:41] Okay.

[01:02:42] All right.

[01:02:43] And, and so we're going to do this.

[01:02:45] Got it.

[01:02:46] And this is another vision.

[01:02:47] Okay.

[01:02:47] Got it.

[01:02:48] Back to vision.

[01:02:49] Okay.

[01:02:49] So we had the pettiness out of, we got the, we got the locusts and the fire and the plum

[01:02:53] lines out of the way.

[01:02:54] Vision.

[01:02:55] And then we got the pettiness out of the way where he's going to kill his wife.

[01:02:57] Chapter of the entry in the diary.

[01:03:00] Into a vision.

[01:03:00] And now vision.

[01:03:01] Okay.

[01:03:01] Yeah.

[01:03:01] Got it.

[01:03:02] Okay.

[01:03:02] Okay.

[01:03:02] Well, this is what the sovereign Lord showed me.

[01:03:05] He's showing him again.

[01:03:06] He's going to show me his bits again.

[01:03:08] Yeah.

[01:03:08] A basket of ripe fruit.

[01:03:11] Oh boy.

[01:03:11] He's showing me his fruit.

[01:03:12] Yeah.

[01:03:13] I don't want to see his.

[01:03:14] I don't want to.

[01:03:14] Yeah.

[01:03:15] Fruits and nuts.

[01:03:15] Nope.

[01:03:16] Nope.

[01:03:16] His nuts and berries.

[01:03:18] Right.

[01:03:18] What do you see, Amos?

[01:03:21] He asked.

[01:03:22] A basket of ripe fruit.

[01:03:24] I answered.

[01:03:25] Okay.

[01:03:26] You know, like I said.

[01:03:27] I mean, if it, yeah.

[01:03:28] I saw some fruit and then God was like, what do you see?

[01:03:30] And I go.

[01:03:31] Fruit.

[01:03:32] Yeah.

[01:03:32] So silly.

[01:03:34] Okay.

[01:03:34] Okay.

[01:03:34] Then the Lord said to me, the time is ripe for my people Israel.

[01:03:39] Oh, that's clever.

[01:03:40] God.

[01:03:40] Oh my gosh.

[01:03:42] You are such a literary motherfucking genius.

[01:03:46] I will spare them no longer.

[01:03:49] Yeah.

[01:03:50] I bet you won't.

[01:03:51] That strawberry done gone to sea.

[01:03:55] In that day.

[01:03:57] Yeah.

[01:03:57] Declares the sovereign Lord.

[01:03:59] During the days of the rotted banana Israelites.

[01:04:02] Which is only two days if you're lucky.

[01:04:05] Fucking bananas.

[01:04:07] The songs in the temple, says God, will turn to wailing.

[01:04:14] Okay.

[01:04:15] Okay.

[01:04:15] Yeah.

[01:04:15] Many, many bodies flung everywhere.

[01:04:21] Silence.

[01:04:21] I'm just, the imagery here is great.

[01:04:24] I love it.

[01:04:24] Flung.

[01:04:25] I love that word.

[01:04:26] Flung is a great word.

[01:04:27] I flung it here.

[01:04:28] I flung it there.

[01:04:29] I flung it to and fro.

[01:04:32] Here.

[01:04:33] Red fish.

[01:04:34] One fish, two fish.

[01:04:34] Red fish, blue fish.

[01:04:36] I'm not sure how that got there, but okay.

[01:04:38] This one has a little star.

[01:04:40] This one has a little car.

[01:04:41] My, how many, many fish there are.

[01:04:43] Many, many bodies flung everywhere.

[01:04:46] Oh, okay.

[01:04:47] Yeah.

[01:04:48] Sorry.

[01:04:48] I, and sometimes I don't follow your, uh, your brain.

[01:04:52] I think my.

[01:04:52] It just kind of goes off on its own little tangents.

[01:04:55] My tism was showing.

[01:04:55] What are you doing?

[01:04:57] Uh, sometimes.

[01:04:58] See, okay.

[01:04:59] So one of the things about autism that I've recently learned is that we see patterns that

[01:05:05] other people don't see.

[01:05:06] And so we make connections that they are connected, but are they though?

[01:05:12] But they are, but are they?

[01:05:14] And they seem very clear and obvious.

[01:05:17] But then when asked to communicate them clearly to somebody else.

[01:05:22] Can't be done.

[01:05:23] Can't be done because it's like.

[01:05:26] Can't you just see it?

[01:05:27] Can't you just see it?

[01:05:28] Oh my God.

[01:05:29] What's wrong with you?

[01:05:30] Right.

[01:05:31] And is that not me to a T?

[01:05:32] Uh, yeah.

[01:05:33] Right?

[01:05:34] Like.

[01:05:34] Cause I, I spend probably about 5% of the time on our podcast looking at you with a what

[01:05:38] the fuck face.

[01:05:39] What the fuck face.

[01:05:40] Indeed.

[01:05:41] Yeah.

[01:05:41] Yeah.

[01:05:41] That is how you look at me.

[01:05:43] Yeah.

[01:05:43] Um, which is why you really want to get a camera going.

[01:05:46] Yeah.

[01:05:47] I, I don't cause I'm not into that, but.

[01:05:50] Right.

[01:05:51] Yeah.

[01:05:51] It would probably be funny sometimes.

[01:05:54] Yeah.

[01:05:55] To watch back and see you just going.

[01:05:58] Start seeing my head tilt and you know, like, what are you saying?

[01:06:03] And what's funny is that since there's no camera, I could just ignore you and keep

[01:06:07] going.

[01:06:07] It's true.

[01:06:08] And I do.

[01:06:09] You often do.

[01:06:09] Yeah.

[01:06:09] I always do.

[01:06:11] Right.

[01:06:11] Yeah.

[01:06:12] That's what you meant by often.

[01:06:13] Okay.

[01:06:14] So anyways, now we're moving on to a different portion.

[01:06:16] Okay.

[01:06:17] Yeah.

[01:06:17] Here we go.

[01:06:18] Hear this.

[01:06:19] You who trample the needy and do away with the poor of the land saying, when will the

[01:06:24] new moon be over that we may sell grain and the Sabbath be ended that we may market

[01:06:29] wheat skimping on the measure, boosting the price and cheating with this on a scales

[01:06:35] buying the poor with silver and the needy with a pair of sandals selling even the

[01:06:41] sweepings with the wheat.

[01:06:43] Sweepings with the wheat.

[01:06:43] Okay.

[01:06:43] Here's what all that means.

[01:06:44] Okay.

[01:06:44] In case you can't get it.

[01:06:46] All right.

[01:06:47] Okay.

[01:06:47] So he's saying y'all are such fuckers.

[01:06:51] I cannot even stand you because like with regard to the new moon and the Sabbath, like

[01:06:57] you're such money hungering assholes that you don't even take the time to actually celebrate

[01:07:05] the holiday for what it is.

[01:07:07] Okay.

[01:07:07] You're like, can we hurry up and open our store again now?

[01:07:11] Thank you.

[01:07:11] I need money.

[01:07:12] Right.

[01:07:13] Hand over fist.

[01:07:13] Right.

[01:07:14] Like it's all about that bottom line, you know?

[01:07:16] Sure.

[01:07:16] And so he's saying you're wrong.

[01:07:20] You shouldn't be doing that.

[01:07:21] Stop.

[01:07:21] Well, I agree for different reasons.

[01:07:24] Like I really don't like the idea.

[01:07:27] I don't like what's happened in the last, you know, 20 to 30 years where we no longer

[01:07:33] as people get holidays for from work.

[01:07:36] Right.

[01:07:37] Right.

[01:07:37] Either as consumers or as employees.

[01:07:41] Right.

[01:07:41] Now, I know that most of those holidays were religiously based, you know, but that being

[01:07:48] said, it was still a day off.

[01:07:50] Right.

[01:07:50] You know, like it was still time to go spend time with your family.

[01:07:54] Right.

[01:07:55] And and I feel like where we move.

[01:07:58] I agree with that sentiment.

[01:08:00] Like, you know, like generally speaking, the greedy, the rich, the powerful move towards

[01:08:05] a world where they cannot be open.

[01:08:07] They can't they can't open their doors at their store long enough because, you know, that just

[01:08:11] means there's going to be less money for them.

[01:08:13] Which is funny because yet they won't keep their Walmarts and Kroger's open 24 hours.

[01:08:20] Well, yeah, because they also have to pay a different shift of people and it's weighing

[01:08:24] it against how much they're making.

[01:08:26] But I'm like, oh, so you you want it both ways.

[01:08:29] You make these people work on Christmas, but you won't let them work the fucking overnight

[01:08:34] shift.

[01:08:34] That was the worst thing that came out of COVID.

[01:08:36] You know, the fact that before COVID, we had a bunch of 24 hour, you know, businesses.

[01:08:41] We had Starbucks, Walmarts and Kroger's that stayed open.

[01:08:45] McDonald's and Taco Bell.

[01:08:46] They stay there.

[01:08:47] Not just the drive through the lobbies.

[01:08:49] Sure.

[01:08:50] We're open 24 hours.

[01:08:52] And now nothing.

[01:08:53] Nothing.

[01:08:53] There's literally nothing open 24 hours in our area anymore, particularly like if they

[01:08:59] have a drive through the drive through might be 24 hours, but the lobby is locked up and

[01:09:04] you can't tell until you go park and you try to walk in.

[01:09:07] And that's only McDonald's.

[01:09:08] And that's only like two in the entire city.

[01:09:10] I think isn't Taco Bell.

[01:09:13] Nope.

[01:09:13] No more.

[01:09:14] Oh, wow.

[01:09:14] Yeah.

[01:09:15] Not in this area.

[01:09:16] What are they like open?

[01:09:17] They close at 2 a.m. and open at five.

[01:09:19] So there's like a three hour window that you can't hit the drive through.

[01:09:22] I don't know.

[01:09:24] No, they don't open until like eight or nine.

[01:09:25] But are you serious?

[01:09:27] Taco Bell.

[01:09:28] Yeah.

[01:09:28] That's insane.

[01:09:31] That's crazy.

[01:09:32] OK, that's just Dayton, Ohio.

[01:09:34] I want to hear from the rest of you.

[01:09:35] Tell me what your Taco Bell hours are.

[01:09:38] You want to know Taco Bell hours?

[01:09:40] I do.

[01:09:40] I do.

[01:09:41] I want to know drive through versus lobby across the U.S.

[01:09:45] Like I'm talking like East Coast, West Coast, South, Southwest.

[01:09:50] Like we got the Midwest taken care of.

[01:09:53] Tell us the rest of the country.

[01:09:54] Hawaii, Alaska.

[01:09:55] I want to know about your Taco Bells.

[01:09:58] You don't have to do social media.

[01:10:00] I'm going to be the one fielding all these Taco Bell answers.

[01:10:02] I'm helping you.

[01:10:05] I'm helping you.

[01:10:07] Like I'm I'm encouraging engagement.

[01:10:10] I see.

[01:10:11] This is your call to action.

[01:10:13] Politics be damned.

[01:10:14] I want to know your Taco Bell situation.

[01:10:17] I also want to know if they know about the green sauce.

[01:10:19] What's the green sauce?

[01:10:20] See, see.

[01:10:21] No one knows about the green sauce.

[01:10:22] What's the green sauce?

[01:10:23] The green sauce is a sauce that they usually keep under the like hidden.

[01:10:27] Like they don't have it.

[01:10:27] It's not part of the regular thing.

[01:10:30] I don't think.

[01:10:31] At least it didn't used to be.

[01:10:32] I think it was.

[01:10:33] Was it?

[01:10:34] It might.

[01:10:35] I don't remember what it is.

[01:10:36] It's like a Verde sauce or something like that.

[01:10:39] But there's a there's a green sauce packet.

[01:10:40] You can ask for it at Taco Bell.

[01:10:42] Is it like super hot?

[01:10:44] Like more than fire?

[01:10:45] I don't remember.

[01:10:46] Honestly, there was a friend told me about it once.

[01:10:48] And then he's like, watch.

[01:10:49] And I'm like, OK.

[01:10:50] And he's like, can I have the green sauce packet?

[01:10:52] And I'm like, oh, they got a green sauce packet.

[01:10:55] OK, so next time we go to Taco Bell, which admittedly is not very often.

[01:10:59] Right.

[01:11:00] But next time we go, I need you to do that.

[01:11:03] I don't want to eat it.

[01:11:04] So you have to eat it because I can't have hot stuff.

[01:11:07] Got it.

[01:11:08] It will burn my insides.

[01:11:09] Sure.

[01:11:10] And then melt my butthole.

[01:11:12] That's how it be.

[01:11:14] Green sauce.

[01:11:14] I didn't even know that.

[01:11:16] Yeah.

[01:11:16] Yeah.

[01:11:16] No, it's it's OK.

[01:11:18] OK, so it's an avocado verde sauce.

[01:11:21] I might try it.

[01:11:22] Is it verde?

[01:11:22] Verde.

[01:11:22] It means hot.

[01:11:23] Verde salsa.

[01:11:24] So it's an avocado verde salsa.

[01:11:25] I would try it.

[01:11:26] Yeah.

[01:11:27] And so is this what you got to ask for it?

[01:11:29] Because it's not like they don't keep it out for everybody.

[01:11:32] I would try it.

[01:11:33] Yeah.

[01:11:33] I can't guarantee I'd eat it, but I would definitely try it.

[01:11:36] Sure.

[01:11:37] Anyway, that's enough about Taco Bell.

[01:11:39] Well, unless they want to sponsor us, then I'll go on for like another half hour.

[01:11:42] I know, right?

[01:11:42] Yeah.

[01:11:43] Have you heard about the what's it called?

[01:11:46] The Waffle House like emergency response quotient.

[01:11:53] Like you can tell how serious a national or natural emergency is by whether or not the Waffle Houses in that area are open.

[01:12:04] Ah, yes.

[01:12:05] Have you heard about that?

[01:12:06] I have heard about that.

[01:12:07] Yes.

[01:12:08] And I have also heard that even like life giving services will use that to determine how serious like a tornado or something coming in is.

[01:12:24] Right.

[01:12:24] Right.

[01:12:25] Like if if those things are closed, you know, should be bad.

[01:12:28] Right.

[01:12:28] Yeah.

[01:12:29] Like, wow.

[01:12:30] Yeah.

[01:12:30] All right.

[01:12:31] Enough about fast food now.

[01:12:32] Right.

[01:12:33] Yeah.

[01:12:33] OK.

[01:12:33] So anyway.

[01:12:34] Oh, and then Amos was saying.

[01:12:37] So you fuckers that you can't open your doors fast enough and, you know, you don't celebrate the holidays.

[01:12:43] You just try to get through them as fast as possible.

[01:12:45] Right.

[01:12:46] And then so you skimp on the measure, boosting the price and cheating with dishonest scales.

[01:12:51] That's going back to that whole if I'm buying something, I'll try to make it way as little as possible so I could get a good price.

[01:12:58] But if I'm selling something, I'm going to add weight to it.

[01:13:02] Yeah.

[01:13:02] Cheating.

[01:13:03] So I get a good price.

[01:13:04] Right.

[01:13:04] And then when he says sell even this, even the sweepings with the wheat, you're supposed to like donate any extras you have to the poor and needy.

[01:13:13] Right.

[01:13:14] They'll pick up whatever extras they have and resell it.

[01:13:17] Got it.

[01:13:17] So they're fuckers.

[01:13:18] Yeah.

[01:13:19] All right.

[01:13:20] Anyway, the Lord has sworn by himself, you know, like how you do, you know, oh, oh, my me.

[01:13:28] Yeah.

[01:13:28] Yeah.

[01:13:29] The pride of Jacob.

[01:13:31] I will never forget anything they have done.

[01:13:34] Will not the land tremble for this and all who live in it mourn?

[01:13:39] The whole land will rise like the Nile.

[01:13:42] It will be stirred up and then sink like the river of Egypt.

[01:13:47] Hmm.

[01:13:48] In that day.

[01:13:49] Okay.

[01:13:50] Oh, did you have something to say?

[01:13:51] No, I just, you know, no, not really.

[01:13:54] I read that it can rise as high as 20 feet.

[01:13:57] The Nile.

[01:13:58] Yeah.

[01:13:58] Oh, okay.

[01:13:59] So it's a big deal when it does that.

[01:14:01] Got it.

[01:14:02] When it says the whole land will rise like the Nile.

[01:14:04] Yeah.

[01:14:04] He's saying, I'm about to drown y'all.

[01:14:07] Got it.

[01:14:07] Look out.

[01:14:08] Yeah.

[01:14:08] In that day, declares the sovereign Lord, I'll make the sun go down at noon and darken

[01:14:13] the earth and broad daylight.

[01:14:15] Sounds like an eclipse.

[01:14:16] So I'm not impressed.

[01:14:17] Or cloud cover.

[01:14:18] Right.

[01:14:19] Yeah.

[01:14:19] Yeah.

[01:14:20] Not impressed.

[01:14:21] No.

[01:14:21] I will turn your religious festivals into mourning and all your singing into weeping.

[01:14:28] I will make all of you wear sackcloth and shave your heads.

[01:14:33] Hmm.

[01:14:33] I don't want to shave my head.

[01:14:36] I will make that time like mourning for an only sun and the end of it like a bitter day.

[01:14:43] Hmm.

[01:14:43] Okay.

[01:14:44] This is a lot of more threats.

[01:14:47] Yeah.

[01:14:47] More.

[01:14:47] Everybody's going to be sad.

[01:14:49] You're going to be sorry.

[01:14:50] I'm going to fuck your shit up.

[01:14:53] Yeah.

[01:14:53] Yeah.

[01:14:54] I'll make you pay.

[01:14:55] Be scared.

[01:14:56] Oh.

[01:14:56] Oh.

[01:14:57] I'll be Moriarty in the Cumberbatch version of Sherlock where he says, I'll make you burn.

[01:15:04] I'll burn the very heart out of you.

[01:15:07] I can't.

[01:15:08] I can't imagine being scared of, I guess.

[01:15:13] Okay.

[01:15:14] I've never been indoctrinated into religion.

[01:15:16] Right.

[01:15:17] But it feels very difficult to be scared of something that I can't know.

[01:15:25] Like what is, I don't know.

[01:15:28] I guess I was, I had a fear of hurricanes.

[01:15:32] So like, I guess that is, I'm trying to work it through my brain.

[01:15:36] Right.

[01:15:36] Okay.

[01:15:37] I don't really have a, I don't have a working knowledge of what it was like to be religious.

[01:15:43] So like, I'm trying to understand this fear that people have because of this God.

[01:15:49] It's constant.

[01:15:49] Right.

[01:15:50] Like you're constantly afraid.

[01:15:51] And I know it's real because I've talked to people who have the fear.

[01:15:54] Yeah.

[01:15:54] Yeah.

[01:15:54] And what strikes me is that they're both always afraid and always smugly certain.

[01:16:02] Right.

[01:16:03] Like tied into one.

[01:16:04] Like they're, they're so scared, you know, but at the same time they're, they know they're

[01:16:11] going to heaven and they know that you're going to hell and they know that their mama and

[01:16:14] daddy is going to be in heaven waiting for them with open arms.

[01:16:18] Right.

[01:16:18] They know it's a fact.

[01:16:20] Yeah.

[01:16:21] Like they're so sure, even as they're terrified, terrified.

[01:16:27] It's so weird.

[01:16:28] No, I don't get it.

[01:16:30] And I don't, I don't get it because, you know, we, we dropped Santa Claus and, you know,

[01:16:35] whatever grade in grade school, right?

[01:16:37] About age seven.

[01:16:38] Tooth fairy.

[01:16:39] We drop all those things that we grew up thinking were real at some point in our life.

[01:16:43] Right.

[01:16:44] Why not God?

[01:16:45] Why doesn't God disappear?

[01:16:47] Why doesn't God strike us as, yeah, that's really silly.

[01:16:51] Right.

[01:16:52] Yeah.

[01:16:52] And I know it does for a lot of people.

[01:16:54] I know a lot of people do end up saying, yeah, God is the, it's a silly concept.

[01:16:58] That's, that's kind of ridiculous.

[01:16:59] Right.

[01:17:00] You know?

[01:17:00] Right.

[01:17:00] But it takes people, especially if you've been indoctrinated into it, it takes people a

[01:17:05] really long time to come to that conclusion.

[01:17:08] And.

[01:17:08] Okay.

[01:17:09] Here's why.

[01:17:11] Because with regard to Santa Claus, right?

[01:17:13] Because you're like six or seven, maybe eight.

[01:17:17] Right.

[01:17:18] Okay.

[01:17:18] Yeah.

[01:17:18] Unless you're your cousin who believed well into her teens.

[01:17:22] Sure.

[01:17:22] Um, you go to school every day.

[01:17:25] Right.

[01:17:25] And all of your friends around you are telling you Santa's not real.

[01:17:29] Santa's not real.

[01:17:30] Santa's not real.

[01:17:31] Right.

[01:17:31] Right.

[01:17:31] Yeah.

[01:17:31] That's your society, your peer group.

[01:17:34] You go home and your parents may or may not come clean with you, but eventually they do.

[01:17:41] That's how, because that doesn't happen with God.

[01:17:44] You don't go to school and have your whole peer group be like, God's not real.

[01:17:48] That's true.

[01:17:48] God's not real.

[01:17:48] No, you're right.

[01:17:49] They instead reinforce, oh yeah, of course God is real.

[01:17:52] Right.

[01:17:53] And you go home and your parents never disabuse you of that notion.

[01:17:57] Right.

[01:17:58] Right.

[01:17:58] So.

[01:17:58] No, that's true.

[01:17:59] That's why.

[01:18:00] Right.

[01:18:00] And yeah.

[01:18:01] Okay.

[01:18:02] I just, I struggle with that idea.

[01:18:05] What I think would be the better question is since so many of us are indoctrinated into this,

[01:18:14] who are the people who first were like, uh, you know what?

[01:18:20] None of this God stuff, any of your religions, none of them strike me as plausible.

[01:18:27] Like how does that get passed on?

[01:18:31] You know what I mean?

[01:18:32] How do we make that the same thing?

[01:18:34] No.

[01:18:34] How has that even become a thing?

[01:18:37] Oh, the God thing?

[01:18:38] How has atheism become as prevalent even as it has?

[01:18:43] Well, because I think that there is a certain portion of people out there that require more

[01:18:50] evidence and more, you know, logic than, than some other people, you know?

[01:18:55] So like as peer review science has increasingly become more accessible to the masses, more

[01:19:02] of us quote unquote commoners have been like, no, you know what?

[01:19:06] That makes sense.

[01:19:07] And I would like some proof, please.

[01:19:10] Yeah.

[01:19:10] No, definitely.

[01:19:11] Science has, you know, caused people to think in a different manner than they would have

[01:19:16] before science was as prevalent as it is now.

[01:19:19] The microscope and the telescope killed God.

[01:19:22] Yeah.

[01:19:23] Among other things.

[01:19:24] Right.

[01:19:25] Yeah.

[01:19:25] I always like the one that's like, there's one like, you know, number of miracles before

[01:19:30] the camera was a number after.

[01:19:32] I think also the number of UFOs decreased.

[01:19:37] Right.

[01:19:38] Yeah.

[01:19:38] Once phones became pocket cameras.

[01:19:42] Right.

[01:19:42] Right.

[01:19:43] All right.

[01:19:43] Let's carry on.

[01:19:44] Yeah.

[01:19:45] The days are coming, declares the sovereign Lord.

[01:19:47] Yeah.

[01:19:48] When I will send a famine through the land.

[01:19:50] Again.

[01:19:51] I'm going to get you.

[01:19:52] Always with the famine.

[01:19:53] No.

[01:19:54] Oh, he's correcting himself though.

[01:19:56] Okay.

[01:19:56] Ready?

[01:19:56] Yeah.

[01:19:57] Just so you know, not a famine of food or a thirst for water.

[01:20:01] Okay.

[01:20:02] Let me explain this famine.

[01:20:03] Sure.

[01:20:03] Yeah, please do.

[01:20:05] A famine of hearing the words of the Lord.

[01:20:09] He doesn't talk to them.

[01:20:11] Well, but you're not going to have any access to anybody talking about the laws.

[01:20:17] You better be good or I'm going to stop talking to that guy down the street that you kind

[01:20:20] of sort of listened to.

[01:20:21] But there's going to be a hunger for it and they won't be able to access it.

[01:20:26] But isn't that exactly when you want to feed them the word of God?

[01:20:30] Like if they're like, I would need your help.

[01:20:33] I'm, you know, I'm asking for your help, you know, and I'm willing to, you know, you

[01:20:37] know, worship you the way you want to be worshiped.

[01:20:39] And then he's like, nah, fuck you.

[01:20:41] I'm sending a famine in such a way as that I'm not going to talk to any prophets and you're

[01:20:51] not going to have access to any spiritual guidance.

[01:20:54] Here's what I think.

[01:20:55] I think that what that is, is a recognition of the fact that when shit goes south, like

[01:21:01] when there is a war, when there is a, an actual famine or, you know, whatever is going on

[01:21:07] that's bad, right?

[01:21:09] When that is happening and people are crying out to their gods and there's not a fucking

[01:21:13] answer, they can point to this and say, well, that's because he's angry at you and he's

[01:21:17] not answering you.

[01:21:18] Yeah.

[01:21:18] Right.

[01:21:19] Were you praying?

[01:21:20] Yeah.

[01:21:20] Were you scared?

[01:21:21] Before this?

[01:21:21] Were you praying before this?

[01:21:22] And were you scared every day?

[01:21:23] It's too late now.

[01:21:25] Right.

[01:21:25] You know, you can't, you can't ask for it as it's coming down the pike at you.

[01:21:28] Yeah.

[01:21:29] You have to ask for it beforehand.

[01:21:30] And obviously, even if you mean it wholeheartedly, God's still going to let you die, you fucker.

[01:21:36] Yeah.

[01:21:37] It's true.

[01:21:37] It's true.

[01:21:38] Probably, probably gleefully because your king sucks.

[01:21:41] Or something.

[01:21:42] Right.

[01:21:43] Or he's just fucking.

[01:21:44] In a bad mood that day.

[01:21:45] An asshole.

[01:21:46] Yeah.

[01:21:47] A dick, if you will.

[01:21:48] Yeah.

[01:21:48] Yeah.

[01:21:49] People, continues God, will stagger from sea to sea and wander from north to east, but

[01:21:56] not north to south.

[01:21:57] North to east.

[01:21:57] They take a left.

[01:21:58] North to east.

[01:22:00] They're going north.

[01:22:02] They gotta turn.

[01:22:03] They're headed north, so they're gonna take a right to go north.

[01:22:06] Yeah.

[01:22:06] Yeah.

[01:22:06] They gotta take a right.

[01:22:07] Yeah.

[01:22:08] Yeah.

[01:22:08] They're headed north up the page, and then they take a right.

[01:22:11] Sure.

[01:22:11] Yeah.

[01:22:12] Yeah.

[01:22:12] Yeah.

[01:22:13] So, people will stagger from sea to sea and wander from up to right, searching for the

[01:22:21] word of the Lord, but they will not find it.

[01:22:23] If they would have just come down and left.

[01:22:26] Yeah.

[01:22:26] I think they could have found it.

[01:22:27] They could have found it.

[01:22:27] Yeah.

[01:22:27] They should have really got some GPS up in there.

[01:22:30] Totally.

[01:22:30] In that day, the lovely young women and strong young men will faint because of thirst, but

[01:22:37] not the ugly ones.

[01:22:38] Don't worry about that.

[01:22:39] Yeah.

[01:22:39] They're good.

[01:22:39] And the weaklings.

[01:22:40] They're fine.

[01:22:41] They're fine.

[01:22:42] Mm-hmm.

[01:22:42] Those who swear by the sin of Samaria, who say, as surely as your God lives, Dan, or

[01:22:48] as surely as the God of Beersheba lives, they will fall never to rise again.

[01:22:53] Oh, man.

[01:22:55] I hate it for Dan and Beersheba.

[01:22:57] Yeah.

[01:22:57] I thought Dan was on the good team or whatever.

[01:23:00] Dan with the good hair.

[01:23:01] Just kidding.

[01:23:03] I don't know.

[01:23:04] All right.

[01:23:05] But we'll probably look into that in our Q&A a little bit.

[01:23:08] I'm sure.

[01:23:08] There's a lot of questions that have come up through the reading of Amos here.

[01:23:11] Yeah.

[01:23:12] Yeah.

[01:23:13] There's a lot of really, I don't know, what would you call them?

[01:23:17] Like deep cuts.

[01:23:19] Right?

[01:23:20] They're not immediately.

[01:23:22] It's like, I feel like I don't have the full story here.

[01:23:24] What is really being said?

[01:23:26] Yeah.

[01:23:27] Yeah.

[01:23:27] Yeah.

[01:23:27] But anyway, it's more of the same shit.

[01:23:31] God is angry.

[01:23:32] He's going to kill people.

[01:23:33] He's going to get you.

[01:23:34] And that's pretty much every goddamn chapter book of the Bible.

[01:23:39] Yep.

[01:23:40] And that was Amos chapter eight.

[01:23:42] Sure as fuck was.

[01:23:44] Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with, well, no.

[01:23:47] With our lives.

[01:23:48] Yeah.

[01:23:48] Yeah.

[01:23:48] So if you're hearing this, this will be going tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern on the Discord.

[01:23:55] Yep.

[01:23:55] Links in the show notes.

[01:23:57] Mm-hmm.

[01:23:58] So click on that link.

[01:23:59] Come over and join us at 10 p.m. Eastern.

[01:24:01] It is a great time.

[01:24:04] And we would really, really love to see some new faces in there.

[01:24:07] So just do it.

[01:24:09] Okay?

[01:24:09] If I'm not mistaken, this is a Patreon only.

[01:24:12] So if you're not going to listen to us live tonight and you're not a paying member on Patreon,

[01:24:22] you will not get access to this.

[01:24:24] That's right.

[01:24:25] Yeah.

[01:24:25] So just do it.

[01:24:26] But it doesn't matter whether you're on a computer or a phone.

[01:24:29] If you click the link, you can get Discord on your phone.

[01:24:31] You can get it on your computer.

[01:24:32] Mm-hmm.

[01:24:33] Whatever.

[01:24:34] Yep.

[01:24:34] You can probably even get it on your Chromebook.

[01:24:35] I don't know.

[01:24:36] You know, I don't like Chromebooks that much, but you can get it there probably.

[01:24:39] Mm-hmm.

[01:24:39] So just do it.

[01:24:41] Just do it.

[01:24:41] All right.

[01:24:42] That's all we can.

[01:24:43] No.

[01:24:44] Okay.

[01:24:44] No, it's not.

[01:24:44] After that, the next day, Thursday, we'll be back with Amos chapter nine.

[01:24:51] Right.

[01:24:52] Which, guess what?

[01:24:54] What?

[01:24:54] That's the end of Amos.

[01:24:55] Oh, shit.

[01:24:56] Right?

[01:24:56] Man, we are trucking right through here.

[01:24:58] I know.

[01:24:59] Moving right along.

[01:24:59] So that means that on Friday, we'll do our Q&A for chapters four through nine.

[01:25:06] I mean, five through nine.

[01:25:07] Okay.

[01:25:08] No, six through nine.

[01:25:09] Sorry.

[01:25:10] Okay.

[01:25:10] Right?

[01:25:11] Six through nine.

[01:25:11] Does that make sense?

[01:25:12] Yes.

[01:25:13] Yes.

[01:25:13] Six through nine.

[01:25:15] And that means that, I don't know if we'll do it over the weekend.

[01:25:19] We'll figure it out.

[01:25:19] Throughout the coming week.

[01:25:20] Throughout the coming week, we'll have our wrap up and our pop quiz and you're always wrong.

[01:25:25] Right, right, right.

[01:25:26] And all that.

[01:25:27] But I do have a question for you.

[01:25:29] Okay.

[01:25:30] During our live Discord.

[01:25:32] Yes.

[01:25:32] Do you have an idea what we might be talking about for Patreon?

[01:25:36] Not a fucking clue.

[01:25:38] We always do this shit last minute.

[01:25:39] I know.

[01:25:39] I just wondered if we could give people a taste of what they might look forward to.

[01:25:44] It's so exclusive that even we don't know what it is.

[01:25:50] Yeah.

[01:25:50] Yeah.

[01:25:51] We got to go check our notes.

[01:25:53] Join us with the surprise of what it's going to be.

[01:25:55] I know.

[01:25:56] Yeah.

[01:25:56] And we'll find out together.

[01:25:58] Usually, husband does not find out until like right before we hit record.

[01:26:01] And I'm like, so this is what we're talking about.

[01:26:03] Right.

[01:26:03] And he's like, God damn it.

[01:26:07] All right.

[01:26:08] So that's everything coming up.

[01:26:10] And we will be done with a book of the Bible again.

[01:26:13] And awesome, awesome.

[01:26:14] Yay.

[01:26:15] All right.

[01:26:15] We will see you next time.

[01:26:17] Bye.

[01:26:18] Bye.

[01:26:24] Wife.

[01:26:25] Do you know what we're doing today?

[01:26:27] Well, yesterday we read, or not yesterday, two days ago.

[01:26:31] We read Amos chapter eight.

[01:26:33] Sure as fuck did.

[01:26:34] And in that chapter, God, well, Amos was in God.

[01:26:38] We're talking about fruit.

[01:26:40] A fruit basket.

[01:26:41] A fruit basket.

[01:26:41] Yeah.

[01:26:42] And it was like, you know, what are we talking about?

[01:26:44] A fruit basket.

[01:26:44] And then he was like, and Israel is ripe for judgment.

[01:26:48] Ah.

[01:26:49] I see what you did there.

[01:26:51] You got me there.

[01:26:51] Yeah, that was a good one.

[01:26:52] You're like, you're like Captain America.

[01:26:54] I understood that reference.

[01:26:57] And he talked about the poor and how they worship wrong things.

[01:27:02] And, you know, God's.

[01:27:03] So more of the same.

[01:27:04] Right.

[01:27:04] Except for the fruit.

[01:27:05] There was one that they were talking about the, how the God's going to withhold his word

[01:27:11] from them.

[01:27:12] Mm-hmm.

[01:27:13] And, you know, he's going to starve them of his, his presence and stuff.

[01:27:16] So, which was, that was, I'm like, oh, so you're, you, you punish people like all the

[01:27:22] time.

[01:27:33] Mm-hmm.

[01:27:34] Oh, sorry.

[01:27:34] You said that he's going to withhold.

[01:27:36] Do you think he'll just give him the tip?

[01:27:39] Jesus Christ.

[01:27:40] What?

[01:27:41] I'm just curious.

[01:27:43] I'm just asking questions.

[01:27:44] So anyway.

[01:27:45] Yeah.

[01:27:45] That was Amos chapter eight.

[01:27:47] Sure as fuck was.

[01:27:48] Which means that today we're getting into.

[01:27:51] Today we're getting into Amos chapter nine.

[01:27:53] And guess what that means?

[01:27:54] That means we're ending this book.

[01:27:56] This is the last chapter of this book.

[01:27:58] Yeah.

[01:27:59] And that's another one that you can mark off friends.

[01:28:01] Sure.

[01:28:02] If you've been playing since the beginning.

[01:28:03] Yeah.

[01:28:04] Guess what else?

[01:28:05] Uh, I, you really want me to guess?

[01:28:08] Cause I actually have an answer to it.

[01:28:09] No.

[01:28:10] Oh, so no.

[01:28:10] What else?

[01:28:11] The next chapter after that is Obadiah.

[01:28:14] Yeah.

[01:28:14] And it's only one chapter long.

[01:28:15] Oh, that's, that's amazing.

[01:28:17] Right.

[01:28:17] Actually, I did know that cause I did look it up, but you want to know something else?

[01:28:21] The chapter after that is Jonah and there's only four chapters.

[01:28:23] Do you want to know something else?

[01:28:24] What?

[01:28:25] There's only 11 chapters left in the OT.

[01:28:27] Oh, wow.

[01:28:28] And of those 11 chapters, there's only 50, I'm sorry, books, 11 books.

[01:28:32] Okay.

[01:28:32] Okay.

[01:28:33] Of those 11 books, there's a total of 53 chapters left.

[01:28:36] Oh my God.

[01:28:37] We're almost done y'all.

[01:28:38] Yeah.

[01:28:38] We're getting there.

[01:28:39] This is crazy.

[01:28:40] With the OT.

[01:28:41] Yeah.

[01:28:41] Yeah.

[01:28:41] But I mean, that's like, we're going to have to party.

[01:28:44] You know, right?

[01:28:45] Like, oh, I think we ought to do like, uh, do your podcast drunk celebration.

[01:28:51] You think?

[01:28:52] Yeah.

[01:28:53] Yeah.

[01:28:53] We might, we might have to do that.

[01:28:54] Yeah.

[01:28:55] Cause I don't think we've done that.

[01:28:56] We've done me a little high from a chewable edible.

[01:29:00] I keep saying chewable fucking kids vitamins.

[01:29:03] God damn it.

[01:29:04] Edible, edible, edible.

[01:29:05] Yes.

[01:29:06] Yes.

[01:29:16] Okay.

[01:29:17] Yep.

[01:29:18] That we actually finished out.

[01:29:20] Yeah.

[01:29:20] So anyway, that's, that's where we're at and we're, we're doing the last chapter of

[01:29:23] Amos today.

[01:29:24] I feel very motivated.

[01:29:26] Yeah.

[01:29:26] Like it can all suck now.

[01:29:28] I don't care.

[01:29:28] Cause we're almost through it.

[01:29:29] Yeah.

[01:29:30] Before we get into the main part, I do want to say this too.

[01:29:32] Um, we are, we are going to try to make a big push of getting a lot of things in place

[01:29:38] and in order.

[01:29:39] And we're probably gonna take a small break between the OT and the new T.

[01:29:42] Yeah.

[01:29:42] Well, we are.

[01:29:43] That's not a might.

[01:29:50] And there's a lot of things that we don't have time to handle because of our lives, because

[01:29:56] of all kinds of things.

[01:29:57] Um, because you can't do the podcast and also run the podcast.

[01:30:01] It's, it's a lot of work.

[01:30:02] Yeah.

[01:30:02] It's a lot of work.

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[01:31:33] So just imagine without you.

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[01:32:09] And there's some really good conversations over there that I'm very grateful to have in

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[01:32:22] people that get me.

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[01:32:28] Cause it's, it's a freeing environment to be around people that have like-minded ideas.

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[01:32:48] Um, all right.

[01:32:49] That being said, are you ready to get into Amos chapter nine?

[01:32:51] Yes.

[01:32:52] Yes, I am.

[01:32:53] All right.

[01:32:53] Let's do this.

[01:32:54] Okie dokie.

[01:33:00] All right.

[01:33:01] We are hopping into Amos chapter nine.

[01:33:05] What?

[01:33:06] Just, I never know what to expect every time we get into an episode.

[01:33:09] You never should.

[01:33:10] I, I know.

[01:33:11] I will.

[01:33:12] I should know that by now.

[01:33:13] I will try to keep you on your toes.

[01:33:15] You do.

[01:33:15] You do indeed.

[01:33:17] That's almost a compliment.

[01:33:18] Yeah.

[01:33:18] Yeah.

[01:33:19] It is.

[01:33:19] All right.

[01:33:19] That's why I married you.

[01:33:21] Aw.

[01:33:21] You keep me on my toes.

[01:33:23] I love you.

[01:33:25] All right.

[01:33:25] Let's read this shit.

[01:33:26] All right.

[01:33:26] Let's do it.

[01:33:27] Okay.

[01:33:28] I, Amos.

[01:33:29] Yeah.

[01:33:30] Um, yeah.

[01:33:30] Saw the Lord standing by the altar and he said, strike the tops of the pillars so that the thresholds shake.

[01:33:40] Bring them down on the heads of all the people.

[01:33:45] Those who are left, I'll kill with the sword.

[01:33:50] Oh, this is so cool.

[01:33:51] I'm Amos.

[01:33:52] And I'm like, God, kill him and I'll kill the rest.

[01:33:55] Right.

[01:33:55] Come on, God, let's go on the murder spree.

[01:33:57] It sounds like this guy, Amos, right?

[01:33:59] It just, it sounds like he's a little bit, uh, mentally disturbed.

[01:34:02] Right.

[01:34:02] Like if you were to run into this guy today, right?

[01:34:04] He might throw a rock at your head.

[01:34:06] Yeah.

[01:34:07] And think it was funny as your brains leaked out.

[01:34:09] I feel like we would lock this guy up in today's world.

[01:34:11] Yeah.

[01:34:11] You know?

[01:34:12] Yeah.

[01:34:12] He's not as weird as Nehemiah, was it?

[01:34:15] I don't remember which one you're talking about.

[01:34:17] The dude that had like the whack dreams.

[01:34:20] Oh.

[01:34:20] With the wheels and the eyes.

[01:34:21] No, it wasn't Nehemiah.

[01:34:22] That was, uh, oh shit.

[01:34:25] It was, uh.

[01:34:26] Jeremiah?

[01:34:26] No.

[01:34:27] No.

[01:34:27] It's not Isaiah, is it?

[01:34:29] No.

[01:34:30] No, it's not Isaiah.

[01:34:30] It's, uh.

[01:34:31] Very not Isaiah.

[01:34:32] Oh shit.

[01:34:33] Uh, Ezekiel.

[01:34:34] Ezekiel!

[01:34:35] I knew I'd get there eventually.

[01:34:37] Ezekiel, Kyle.

[01:34:38] Yeah, yeah.

[01:34:38] Yeah.

[01:34:39] Yeah, no, he was pretty whack.

[01:34:40] But, but he didn't advocate as much personal vengeance.

[01:34:44] Yeah.

[01:34:45] So much as he was relaying God's message.

[01:34:47] Yeah.

[01:34:48] And really in the end he was talking, like there was the whole reference to like something

[01:34:51] that sounded similar to a Jesus idea.

[01:34:54] Right.

[01:34:54] Right.

[01:34:54] You know, so like he kind of came back to that redemption of humanity and stuff.

[01:34:57] Right.

[01:34:58] Which probably wasn't written by him, but you know, whatever.

[01:35:01] No.

[01:35:01] I doubt it.

[01:35:02] Yeah.

[01:35:02] Yeah, this guy's just like, knock the buildings over, kill them.

[01:35:07] Right.

[01:35:08] And whatever, whoever survives and crawls out, I'll stab them.

[01:35:12] No one will get away, not one.

[01:35:14] None will escape.

[01:35:15] No one will escape.

[01:35:16] Though they dig down to the depths below from there, my hand will take them.

[01:35:21] I'm going to stick my hand in there and I'm going to choke the living shit out of them.

[01:35:25] Yeah.

[01:35:26] Just for the record, wife is laughing and stuff.

[01:35:30] I'm in character.

[01:35:31] In character.

[01:35:31] Yeah.

[01:35:32] Yeah.

[01:35:32] I'm in character.

[01:35:33] I just want to make sure.

[01:35:34] Yeah.

[01:35:34] That's not, that is not wife laughing.

[01:35:36] That is Amos very excited to murder.

[01:35:38] You never know this might be somebody's first time tuning into our podcast.

[01:35:40] That's true.

[01:35:41] That's true.

[01:35:41] Well, just so you know, I'm in character as Amos being gleeful about murder.

[01:35:47] Right.

[01:35:48] Because.

[01:35:48] Or God.

[01:35:49] Either one could be gleeful.

[01:35:50] All these sons of bitches in this Bible are fucking murdery.

[01:35:54] Yeah.

[01:35:55] And if they're not, well, they own slaves and they're rapey.

[01:35:58] Yeah.

[01:35:59] You know?

[01:35:59] Pretty much.

[01:36:00] Yeah.

[01:36:00] And that's about how it goes.

[01:36:01] Okay.

[01:36:02] So here I'm still Amos.

[01:36:03] Ready?

[01:36:03] Though they climb up to the heavens above, from there, I Amos will bring them down.

[01:36:09] I'm very excited.

[01:36:10] Wait, how is Amos going to keep bringing people from the heavens above down?

[01:36:14] It's, I think he's making a metaphor.

[01:36:17] Okay.

[01:36:17] It's a metaphor.

[01:36:18] He's like, it doesn't matter where you go.

[01:36:20] I'm going to get you.

[01:36:21] I'm going to fucking get you.

[01:36:22] Got it.

[01:36:22] Don't worry about God.

[01:36:23] I will get you.

[01:36:25] So this guy went from a prophet to now he's a bounty hunter.

[01:36:27] Yeah.

[01:36:28] Okay.

[01:36:28] Yeah.

[01:36:29] And a murdery fuck.

[01:36:30] Yeah.

[01:36:30] It's no wonder the king didn't want him, you know, preaching his town.

[01:36:33] Yeah.

[01:36:34] Sounds like he's a little off kilter here.

[01:36:36] Yeah.

[01:36:37] He's like, you need to get gone.

[01:36:38] And, and Amos is like, what did I do?

[01:36:42] This right here.

[01:36:43] Yeah.

[01:36:43] This, this is, this is it.

[01:36:45] Like, if somebody is talking about doing this and they're, you know, this gleeful, they've

[01:36:49] probably already done it.

[01:36:50] Right.

[01:36:51] You know, like, okay.

[01:36:52] How many bodies are buried?

[01:36:54] Where are they?

[01:36:55] And who else have you been thinking about murdering?

[01:36:58] I feel like it would have been a lot harder to catch mass murderers back then.

[01:37:01] It definitely would have.

[01:37:02] Because there was just so much more room to do it in.

[01:37:05] And there weren't cameras.

[01:37:07] Right.

[01:37:07] Yeah.

[01:37:08] Witnesses were like a hundred miles away.

[01:37:11] Yeah.

[01:37:12] Yeah.

[01:37:12] Spread out, you know?

[01:37:14] Yeah.

[01:37:14] But then again, because everybody's so spread out, there might've been less reason to be

[01:37:20] mentally disturbed and, um, you know, get murdery.

[01:37:24] Except for that we're reading a bunch of mental disturbedness.

[01:37:27] Yeah.

[01:37:27] With regard to how people handle their gods and stuff in this timeframe.

[01:37:31] Maybe he's on drugs.

[01:37:33] Maybe he's on steroids.

[01:37:35] Cause I've heard.

[01:37:35] I don't think.

[01:37:36] Roy rage.

[01:37:37] Right.

[01:37:37] Right.

[01:37:37] But I don't, I don't think they had steroids back then.

[01:37:39] Well, I mean, doesn't it come from like a plant or something?

[01:37:42] I don't know anything about steroids, but I'm sure that there's some equivalent anger

[01:37:47] making thing.

[01:37:48] You think?

[01:37:49] Sure.

[01:37:49] Why not?

[01:37:50] I don't know.

[01:37:51] I just, I, I would have.

[01:37:53] They had abortion drugs.

[01:37:54] They had abortion drugs.

[01:37:56] They had dirty waters, but they had.

[01:37:57] Okay.

[01:37:58] I'm just saying.

[01:37:59] Yeah.

[01:38:00] Whatever.

[01:38:01] This guy is cray.

[01:38:02] Though they hide themselves on the top of Carmel, you know, the mountain over there,

[01:38:06] there, I will hunt them down and seize them.

[01:38:10] Though they hide from my eyes at the bottom of the sea there, I will command the serpent

[01:38:15] to bite them.

[01:38:16] He is totally being Moriarty.

[01:38:18] I will burn the heart out of them.

[01:38:21] Yeah.

[01:38:21] I will get them.

[01:38:23] You'll be sorry.

[01:38:25] Though they are driven into exile by their enemies there, I will command the sword to

[01:38:30] slay them.

[01:38:31] Now I'm talking to inanimate objects.

[01:38:34] Okay.

[01:38:35] Right.

[01:38:35] Yeah.

[01:38:36] Right.

[01:38:36] Amos is going to command it or God.

[01:38:38] Amos.

[01:38:39] Okay.

[01:38:40] Yep.

[01:38:40] I don't understand.

[01:38:41] I'm Amos.

[01:38:41] Like Amos is dead.

[01:38:42] I'm going to get you.

[01:38:43] It's weird.

[01:38:45] The boundary between the prophets and God, sometimes as far as the way they were these

[01:38:50] things are very thin.

[01:38:52] Right?

[01:38:53] Yeah.

[01:38:54] And I have to wonder, how is it that Amos has the ability to command a sword?

[01:39:00] Like in the same sense that God would have the ability to command a sword.

[01:39:03] Oh, you know what?

[01:39:03] Hold on.

[01:39:04] Hold on.

[01:39:05] I apologize.

[01:39:06] I apologize.

[01:39:07] I misread it.

[01:39:08] Yeah.

[01:39:08] Because at the beginning, the first sentence, I saw the Lord standing by the altar and he

[01:39:12] said, no, this is God going, strike the pillars, dude.

[01:39:16] Yeah.

[01:39:17] Okay.

[01:39:17] He's like, I'm totally going to kill everybody.

[01:39:20] Got it.

[01:39:20] They can try to climb up here and I'll kick them down.

[01:39:22] That makes a lot more sense.

[01:39:23] I mean, but he's like, God told me to murder.

[01:39:27] It's not my fault.

[01:39:28] Sure.

[01:39:28] God totally.

[01:39:29] No, I get it.

[01:39:30] But I mean, like, it doesn't matter who's saying the words.

[01:39:32] It doesn't matter who is being accused of saying the words.

[01:39:36] Right.

[01:39:37] Yes.

[01:39:37] Yes.

[01:39:38] All right.

[01:39:38] So now God is saying, though they hide from my eyes at the bottom of the sea, there I will

[01:39:43] command a serpent to bite them.

[01:39:46] Though they are driven into exile by their enemies, there I will command the sword to slay

[01:39:52] them.

[01:39:52] I will keep my eye on them for harm and not for good.

[01:39:56] I'm going to get them.

[01:39:57] I'm going to get them so good.

[01:39:59] Yeah.

[01:39:59] Yeah.

[01:39:59] Because that's God for you.

[01:40:01] Right.

[01:40:01] Yeah.

[01:40:02] He's so lovey.

[01:40:03] I love that guy.

[01:40:04] I'm not scared of him at all.

[01:40:05] I mean, I'm not.

[01:40:07] But if I was back then, I also don't love him.

[01:40:09] So.

[01:40:09] Okay.

[01:40:09] But here, if it was back then, I would be scared of this guy.

[01:40:12] Yeah.

[01:40:12] He's a vindictive piece of shit.

[01:40:14] He is.

[01:40:15] All right.

[01:40:16] So now I'm Amos again.

[01:40:17] Okay.

[01:40:18] The Lord, the Lord Almighty, he touches the earth and it melts and all who live in

[01:40:24] it mourn.

[01:40:25] The whole land rises like the Nile, then sinks like the river of Egypt.

[01:40:31] Which is also the Nile.

[01:40:32] Which is the Nile.

[01:40:33] He's basically saying like, remember in the last chapter, we talked about how the Nile

[01:40:40] can rise as high as 20 feet.

[01:40:42] Yeah.

[01:40:42] But then it recedes again.

[01:40:43] Sure.

[01:40:43] So he's saying like, just like the river goes to great extremes, highs and lows.

[01:40:48] Yeah.

[01:40:49] That's God.

[01:40:50] Right.

[01:40:51] Yeah.

[01:40:51] He definitely does.

[01:40:52] You know, I don't know why we couldn't have ended up with like a mild mannered God.

[01:40:56] Right.

[01:40:57] That would have been, I think, a lot better.

[01:40:58] More boring, but I'll take it.

[01:41:00] Boring God is fine, you know, just as long as he's fair and, you know, doesn't hide from

[01:41:06] people.

[01:41:06] Yeah.

[01:41:06] You know, there's a lot of benefits, I feel like, if we would have had like a mild mannered

[01:41:11] God.

[01:41:11] Yeah.

[01:41:11] As opposed to a very angry and jealous God.

[01:41:16] Yeah.

[01:41:16] You know?

[01:41:16] Yeah.

[01:41:17] If God was boring, I feel like humans would be in a lot better place.

[01:41:22] Yeah.

[01:41:22] I agree with you.

[01:41:23] You know?

[01:41:24] He builds his lofty palace in the heavens.

[01:41:27] I'm Amos talking about God and sets its foundation on the earth.

[01:41:32] He calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land.

[01:41:37] That's called rain, I think.

[01:41:38] The Lord is his name.

[01:41:40] Don't you?

[01:41:41] Yeah.

[01:41:42] I mean, yeah.

[01:41:44] Okay.

[01:41:44] All right.

[01:41:45] So, I mean, I just, rain is rain, you know, like, why do we have to attribute gods to things

[01:41:50] that naturally happen?

[01:41:51] Rain be rain.

[01:41:52] Right.

[01:41:52] You know how bitches be.

[01:41:54] And they've even described how it happens.

[01:41:56] Yeah.

[01:41:57] In the Bible even.

[01:41:58] Yeah.

[01:41:58] So, they understand that it evaporates, it goes up, and then comes back down.

[01:42:01] Right?

[01:42:02] Yeah.

[01:42:02] So, like, if you understand even that, just like that basic concept, right?

[01:42:05] It's like, you got the water cycle, you guys.

[01:42:08] Oh, my God.

[01:42:09] Right.

[01:42:09] My fifth grade life sciences science book, you know?

[01:42:14] Yeah.

[01:42:14] You got it.

[01:42:14] That's awesome.

[01:42:15] Good on you.

[01:42:16] Right.

[01:42:16] But why would you attribute that to a god?

[01:42:18] It makes, to me, if I'm thinking about, if somebody were to tell me, hey, the water evaporates

[01:42:24] when it's hot out, and it goes, like, because, you know, that's what happens to water.

[01:42:28] And then it forms those clouds up there.

[01:42:31] Those things, they hold the water.

[01:42:33] Right?

[01:42:33] Yeah.

[01:42:34] And then they get too much water, and it comes back down.

[01:42:36] Yeah.

[01:42:37] I'm like, damn, science.

[01:42:39] That's awesome.

[01:42:39] I love science.

[01:42:40] You know?

[01:42:41] Science is repeatable by other people.

[01:42:43] Yeah.

[01:42:44] And that's awesome.

[01:42:45] Peer review.

[01:42:46] Right.

[01:42:46] And asking questions, and being okay being wrong.

[01:42:49] Yeah.

[01:42:49] Fuck these guys.

[01:42:50] Right.

[01:42:50] All right.

[01:42:51] Anyway, now I'm God.

[01:42:52] Sure.

[01:42:52] Okay?

[01:42:53] Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Kushites, declares the Lord?

[01:42:58] He's like, all y'all fuckers right here.

[01:43:01] Okay.

[01:43:01] You all suck.

[01:43:02] I guess.

[01:43:03] Even my chosen people hated him.

[01:43:05] Yeah.

[01:43:05] All right.

[01:43:06] Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt?

[01:43:09] No.

[01:43:09] Here we go again.

[01:43:10] Here we go.

[01:43:11] Jesus.

[01:43:11] Let it go, man.

[01:43:12] I'm so tired of him.

[01:43:14] Like, God, you make me really tired.

[01:43:16] And, you know, like, they're also just, like, continually talking about this lie.

[01:43:21] I know.

[01:43:22] Right?

[01:43:22] He's like, remember that one time?

[01:43:23] And everybody's like, no, because it didn't happen.

[01:43:27] Right.

[01:43:27] Yeah.

[01:43:27] There's no record of this ever happening.

[01:43:30] And, moreover, like, the archaeology that's been done with regard to the Israelites kind

[01:43:36] of shows they were always in Israel.

[01:43:37] Right.

[01:43:38] So, or at least that region right there without.

[01:43:41] You know what it reminds me of?

[01:43:42] Like, he brings it up all the time saying it totally happened.

[01:43:45] Yeah.

[01:43:45] It reminds me of how, like, you and I were just having a talk about Trump and how he

[01:43:50] has tells where he tells on himself.

[01:43:52] Yeah.

[01:43:52] By accusing other people of the thing that he totally actually did.

[01:43:56] Don't protest too much.

[01:43:56] Yeah.

[01:43:57] So, Trump is like, you know, oh, I could totally, you know, grab women by the pussy.

[01:44:02] And it's because I do.

[01:44:03] Right.

[01:44:04] And, oh, that guy over there, he's such a pedo gross guy.

[01:44:07] And it's like, oh, you're a pedo gross guy.

[01:44:08] Right.

[01:44:09] Yeah.

[01:44:09] Yeah.

[01:44:10] Or, oh, they're probably cheating.

[01:44:11] And, oh, so you're cheating then, sir.

[01:44:13] Yeah.

[01:44:14] Honestly, try listening to Trump one time and pick up on some of the things that he's really

[01:44:18] angry, like really angry about.

[01:44:19] The angriest things that he accuses people of.

[01:44:22] And then you'll just keep your eye out on the things that he says.

[01:44:25] Mm-hmm.

[01:44:25] And you'll see those things as, we'll find out later that he was associated with something

[01:44:30] similar.

[01:44:31] Yeah.

[01:44:31] Because that's just how he operates.

[01:44:33] He tattles on himself all the fucking time.

[01:44:35] Yeah.

[01:44:35] So God keeps saying, no, I totally did.

[01:44:38] No, I totally brought them up.

[01:44:39] They totally came from there.

[01:44:41] Yeah.

[01:44:41] I brought them out of Egypt.

[01:44:43] Well, I mean, it's a good line to use, right?

[01:44:45] I got you out of that horrible place, right?

[01:44:48] That you weren't or were, but whatever.

[01:44:52] Yeah.

[01:44:52] Anyway, did I not bring you up from Egypt, the Philistines from Kamphtor and the Arameans

[01:45:00] from Kir?

[01:45:02] I'm really bad with these places.

[01:45:04] Right.

[01:45:04] But apparently he brought a lot of people up out of a lot of places.

[01:45:07] Yeah.

[01:45:08] Surely, don't call me surely, the eyes of the sovereign Lord are on the sinful kingdom.

[01:45:14] I will destroy it from the face of the earth.

[01:45:17] Yeah.

[01:45:18] I'm so excited.

[01:45:20] I brought you out of Egypt and now I'm going to destroy you.

[01:45:23] You know that thing that I did was awesome?

[01:45:24] I was so awesome, but now I don't like you, so I'm going to destroy you.

[01:45:28] Remember that one time when I flooded the whole planet because I messed up and made you

[01:45:32] suck?

[01:45:32] And then I brought you back?

[01:45:34] Like, I did it again.

[01:45:36] God damn it.

[01:45:38] He's such a mess, this God.

[01:45:40] Yet I will not totally destroy the descendants of Jacob, declares the Lord.

[01:45:44] Oh, what's he going to have?

[01:45:46] A remnant.

[01:45:47] A remnant.

[01:45:48] Yeah.

[01:45:48] A grape.

[01:45:49] Yeah.

[01:45:49] Yeah.

[01:45:50] A vine.

[01:45:51] Sure.

[01:45:52] For I will give the command and I will shake the people of Israel among all the nations

[01:45:57] as grain is shaken in a sieve or sieve.

[01:46:01] I don't know how you pronounce.

[01:46:02] Colander.

[01:46:03] No, no.

[01:46:04] Not sieve.

[01:46:04] Colander.

[01:46:04] Sieve.

[01:46:05] Sieve.

[01:46:06] Sieve or sieve.

[01:46:06] I've heard it both.

[01:46:07] Yeah, I've heard it.

[01:46:08] That's why I say.

[01:46:09] I think I would say sieve.

[01:46:10] Yeah.

[01:46:11] If I had to pick.

[01:46:13] I think it's sieve, but that's why I say colander.

[01:46:15] I don't use that word enough to like really know for sure, but I think it's sieve.

[01:46:19] Sometimes I just say strainer.

[01:46:21] Sure.

[01:46:21] What do you prefer in the kitchen?

[01:46:24] If I'm using a strainer.

[01:46:25] Yeah.

[01:46:26] You always say.

[01:46:27] I say strainer.

[01:46:27] Where's the strainer?

[01:46:28] Where do we keep the strainer?

[01:46:29] Right.

[01:46:29] Have you seen the strainer?

[01:46:30] Where'd you put the strainer?

[01:46:32] Yeah.

[01:46:32] Okay.

[01:46:32] So he's going to shake this shit.

[01:46:34] Shake these people.

[01:46:35] Yeah.

[01:46:36] Through a colander.

[01:46:36] Is he going to shake it like a Polaroid camera?

[01:46:38] Yeah.

[01:46:39] Or a Polaroid picture, I mean?

[01:46:40] Yeah.

[01:46:40] He's going to shake the camera.

[01:46:42] You don't shake the camera.

[01:46:42] No, he's shaking the camera and the people and the nations.

[01:46:45] All the things.

[01:46:45] He's going to put them in a colander and he's going to sort them out and not a pebble will

[01:46:50] reach the ground.

[01:46:51] I see.

[01:46:52] Okay.

[01:46:52] You're going to be caught in the strainer.

[01:46:54] Except for the remnant that he leaves.

[01:46:56] Yeah.

[01:46:56] Except for the remnant.

[01:46:57] Got it.

[01:46:57] All the sinners among my people will die by the sword.

[01:47:01] Boom.

[01:47:01] Except the ones from the topple.

[01:47:05] Because you were going to have Amos topple over some pillars.

[01:47:10] Remember?

[01:47:10] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:47:10] They were going to die from that.

[01:47:12] And then you were going to get the other ones.

[01:47:13] It's still God directing somebody to do it.

[01:47:14] But.

[01:47:15] It still counts.

[01:47:16] But Amos did it himself.

[01:47:18] With God's direction, though.

[01:47:19] But he didn't need help from God.

[01:47:22] Like, I look, I would say if God had a finger in it physically and came down and like possessed

[01:47:30] him or if God like did did himself through.

[01:47:36] But no, this is like just because you tell somebody something doesn't mean they have to

[01:47:40] do it.

[01:47:40] Right.

[01:47:41] Like if I said, go knock some tunnels down or whatever.

[01:47:44] Right.

[01:47:45] But if he wouldn't have done it without God's direction, then at some level he gave him

[01:47:50] the mental clearance to be able to do this thing.

[01:47:52] But he did it is the point.

[01:47:54] He is the one who gets the blame.

[01:47:55] It's not that big of a deal.

[01:47:56] Whatever.

[01:47:57] Okay.

[01:47:58] Amos did it.

[01:47:59] God was telling him to do it.

[01:48:00] It is what it is.

[01:48:01] And God's going to get everybody regardless.

[01:48:03] Yeah.

[01:48:03] All the sinners among my people will die by the sword.

[01:48:06] All those who say disaster will not overtake or meet us.

[01:48:10] Okay.

[01:48:11] I will.

[01:48:11] It's going to get you.

[01:48:12] Right.

[01:48:12] All right.

[01:48:13] We're almost done here.

[01:48:14] Ready?

[01:48:14] Just a few more verses.

[01:48:16] In that day, I will restore David's fallen shelter.

[01:48:21] I will repair its broken walls and restore its ruins and will rebuild it as it used to

[01:48:29] be so that they may possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations that bear my name.

[01:48:35] I'm assuming we're talking about the temple or like the destruction of the temple here?

[01:48:40] Well, I don't know because I wasn't going to cover this right now because it's a thing

[01:48:44] that could be brought up in the Q&A.

[01:48:46] Yeah.

[01:48:46] But since you asked and I kind of remember, it depends on what interpretation you read.

[01:48:54] Like ours says fallen shelter, but there are others that say tabernacle or tent or small

[01:49:02] home.

[01:49:03] Which is interesting because we wondered multiple times actually what happened to the tabernacle.

[01:49:09] Exactly.

[01:49:09] Because it was a very prominent aspect of what it was to be Jewish for a while.

[01:49:14] And then it just kind of disappeared out of the Bible.

[01:49:16] And it might be with Meshiba.

[01:49:20] Yeah.

[01:49:20] Queen Meshiba.

[01:49:21] Yeah.

[01:49:22] Yeah.

[01:49:22] Over in Africa, Ethiopia.

[01:49:24] Yep.

[01:49:25] Yeah.

[01:49:26] So he's saying that he's going to restore David's whatever.

[01:49:30] He's going to repair its broken walls and restore its ruins.

[01:49:34] Right.

[01:49:34] Okay.

[01:49:34] Yeah.

[01:49:35] And we'll rebuild it as it used to be so that they may possess the remnant of Edom and

[01:49:40] all the nations that bear my name.

[01:49:41] So not just like rebuilding the thing itself, but the nation itself.

[01:49:47] Yeah.

[01:49:48] Yeah.

[01:49:48] That's what he's saying.

[01:49:49] Well, I think we covered this recently actually because the, I don't know if it was the second

[01:49:55] or third building of the temple.

[01:49:56] I think there's, it's been destroyed two times and it's not been rebuilt.

[01:50:00] Correct.

[01:50:01] I think, I believe that's correct.

[01:50:02] There was actually like one of the prophets that we read had plans specifically that God

[01:50:06] gave him.

[01:50:06] Yeah.

[01:50:07] For this new temple.

[01:50:08] And it's still never been built.

[01:50:10] Ever.

[01:50:11] Yeah.

[01:50:11] They got toys.

[01:50:12] You can order like a, you know, miniaturized version.

[01:50:15] Yeah.

[01:50:15] But they're not correct.

[01:50:16] They're not, they're not to the correct.

[01:50:18] You can order idle versions of it.

[01:50:20] Yeah.

[01:50:21] Yeah.

[01:50:22] Anyway, I'm going to get them all declares the Lord who will do these things.

[01:50:27] Okay.

[01:50:28] I love that specification there.

[01:50:29] Yeah.

[01:50:30] The quality, he qualified it.

[01:50:32] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, said the Lord who will do these things.

[01:50:35] Right.

[01:50:36] Like, it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, said husband who absolutely will buy his wife

[01:50:42] McDonald's.

[01:50:43] Like, yeah, you will.

[01:50:46] The days are coming, declares the Lord, when the reaper will over, will be overtaken by the

[01:50:53] plow man.

[01:50:54] Don't fear the reaper, man.

[01:50:55] Don't fear the reaper.

[01:50:56] Yeah.

[01:50:57] Yeah.

[01:50:57] And the planter by the one treading grapes.

[01:51:01] Okay.

[01:51:02] So, the ones on the bottom will come on top.

[01:51:05] They're going to rise up.

[01:51:06] Yeah.

[01:51:06] Okay.

[01:51:06] All right.

[01:51:07] Rise up.

[01:51:08] Rise up.

[01:51:09] Okay.

[01:51:10] Okay.

[01:51:10] Okay.

[01:51:11] Okay.

[01:51:11] Okay.

[01:51:11] The one that I will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills.

[01:51:41] From the land I have given them, says the Lord, your God.

[01:51:44] And let us not forget up here where it said, all the nations that bear my name.

[01:51:49] So, that would include all the tribes.

[01:51:52] Sure.

[01:51:53] All of them.

[01:51:53] Yeah.

[01:51:54] The Maniasa and what was the other one?

[01:51:57] Ephraim.

[01:51:57] Or, yeah, maybe.

[01:51:58] Ephraim.

[01:51:59] Yeah.

[01:52:00] Those were Joseph's kids.

[01:52:02] Got it.

[01:52:03] Yeah.

[01:52:03] So, yeah.

[01:52:04] We're done.

[01:52:05] The end.

[01:52:05] That's Amos.

[01:52:06] That's Amos.

[01:52:07] Yeah.

[01:52:08] We did Amos.

[01:52:09] That was a lot of God being angry.

[01:52:12] Yeah.

[01:52:12] God was really angry in this book.

[01:52:14] Yeah.

[01:52:16] And there's not really anything to me that stands out about Amos.

[01:52:20] Like, there's a lot of people that we've talked about in the Old Testament that are somewhat unique.

[01:52:26] Right.

[01:52:26] Right.

[01:52:27] And I have a feeling that probably as we go through these minor prophets, we're not going to find a whole lot of uniqueness.

[01:52:31] I think Jonah will be unique.

[01:52:33] Okay.

[01:52:33] All right.

[01:52:33] Because there's a whale.

[01:52:35] There's something about a whale.

[01:52:36] Well, the whale at least will be unique, right?

[01:52:39] Well, my problem is that I always get that confused with the Pinocchio story because Geppetto gets swallowed by a whale.

[01:52:46] And then Pinocchio and him, like one of them goes in to save the other.

[01:52:51] I don't remember.

[01:52:51] And then they're stuck in the fucking whale.

[01:52:53] Right.

[01:52:54] And they're alive inside the whale.

[01:52:56] Right.

[01:52:57] And so when I hear somebody's inside a whale, I don't think of the Bible.

[01:53:02] I think of Pinocchio.

[01:53:04] Yeah.

[01:53:05] No, I think that's probably where I was always with it, too.

[01:53:08] So FYI, I know that most of you, if you are familiar with Pinocchio, only know of it from either Disney's animated version, which was cute enough, or from the Steven Spielberg awesome movie, AI artificial intelligence, which is a forward kind of like a futuristic version of Pinocchio.

[01:53:36] Of Pinocchio, yeah.

[01:53:38] But what I would highly recommend if you are into reading and you love satire is to read the original.

[01:53:45] I believe the author is Carlo Rossi.

[01:53:49] I could be wrong.

[01:53:50] Don't trust me on that.

[01:53:51] I'm so bad at names.

[01:53:53] But get yourself that book.

[01:53:56] It is so good.

[01:53:57] It is satire through and through, and it's really funny, and you'll love it.

[01:54:01] And if you want to order it, you know, I talked about this earlier, but you can go order it from the link on our website that takes you to Amazon that gets us a little bit of money to help us out.

[01:54:12] Yeah.

[01:54:12] We'll take that two cents, please.

[01:54:14] Yeah, no, definitely.

[01:54:15] When you do your order, you know, just go to our website first and follow the links.

[01:54:19] It's like a quarter of the way down the page, and it'll take you to where you can go to Amazon from our page, and it gets us a little kickback.

[01:54:24] Yeah.

[01:54:25] Yeah.

[01:54:25] I mean, while you're there, since you love satire anyway, go ahead and get Candide by Voltaire.

[01:54:30] Sure, sure.

[01:54:31] And a new washer and dryer.

[01:54:32] No, I'm just talking about satire books.

[01:54:35] No, you're right.

[01:54:36] The new car.

[01:54:36] You need to get that new car first.

[01:54:38] Yeah, get the new car.

[01:54:41] Or make sure you get your fucking gas stoves, because, you know, us crazy libs are going to take them away.

[01:54:47] You get whatever you want.

[01:54:48] I don't care.

[01:54:48] Or don't get anything, you know?

[01:54:49] Yeah, don't get anything.

[01:54:50] It is what it is.

[01:54:50] But I'm just saying, like, if you need to go to the library, you really, really ought to read Pinocchio.

[01:54:55] It's so good.

[01:54:56] Yeah.

[01:54:56] And it sounds weird, like, I'm, like, advocating you go read a kid's book.

[01:55:00] It's not a kid's book, actually.

[01:55:02] Right.

[01:55:02] And actually, if you don't want to spend any money, there's a great app that wife has turned me on to.

[01:55:06] Is it Hoopla now?

[01:55:08] Or what's the one?

[01:55:09] Libby.

[01:55:09] Libby.

[01:55:09] It's Libby.

[01:55:10] Libby.

[01:55:10] It was Overdrive, but they're slowly phasing that out.

[01:55:20] To Libby.

[01:55:21] Yeah, so if you love audiobooks or whatever, you can actually get movies on there and stuff, too.

[01:55:26] Yeah.

[01:55:26] But, like, if you love the library and you don't use it enough, there's ways to do it from an app and from your home.

[01:55:33] And it's really, really amazing.

[01:55:35] It really is.

[01:55:35] And you mentioned Hoopla.

[01:55:38] That is a separate app that is also through libraries.

[01:55:40] And that's where.

[01:55:41] Mostly movies.

[01:55:42] Mostly movies and comic books.

[01:55:44] I don't know if there's any comic nerds out there.

[01:55:46] But I buzzed through the entire series of Saga.

[01:55:52] If you are familiar with that, it's so good.

[01:55:55] Yeah.

[01:55:55] I'm a comic nerd.

[01:55:56] No, I wouldn't call myself a nerd.

[01:55:58] You love comic books.

[01:55:59] I do love comic books, but I don't, like, read them all the time or whatever.

[01:56:02] Right.

[01:56:02] I wouldn't call you.

[01:56:03] I wouldn't call me a nerd because I don't know everybody.

[01:56:05] No, but you do have.

[01:56:07] I'm a fan.

[01:56:08] Yeah, you're definitely a fan.

[01:56:09] I'm a light fan.

[01:56:11] Sure.

[01:56:11] I'm not, like, in the fandom.

[01:56:14] Right.

[01:56:14] I appreciate a good comic.

[01:56:15] Yeah.

[01:56:15] That's what I'll say.

[01:56:16] I hear you.

[01:56:17] Yeah.

[01:56:18] All right.

[01:56:18] Hoopla is where you get your movies and your comics for free.

[01:56:24] And then Libby is where you get your e-books or audio books.

[01:56:28] Yeah.

[01:56:28] And, you know, if you just need to get lost in non, you know, news over the next four years.

[01:56:34] Right.

[01:56:34] You can do that right there on that Libby app.

[01:56:36] Yeah.

[01:56:36] And this is not, like, a sponsored ad or anything.

[01:56:38] No.

[01:56:38] I just fucking love them.

[01:56:39] We just love the library.

[01:56:39] Yeah.

[01:56:40] And we support librarians.

[01:56:41] And we think that it's an amazing service.

[01:56:43] And it is actually one of the very big, prominent reasons that we, one of the big guardians of our freedom of speech.

[01:56:50] Yes.

[01:56:51] And just access to information.

[01:56:52] They are the front lines of the First Amendment.

[01:56:55] Yeah.

[01:56:55] I fucking love me a library.

[01:56:58] So, if you're a librarian, thank you for your service.

[01:57:00] Oh, my God.

[01:57:01] Yeah.

[01:57:01] Thank you.

[01:57:02] And, you know, we really appreciate what you do out there because these last, like, six to eight years have been pretty rough.

[01:57:11] I know they've been rough for y'all and they're only going to get tougher.

[01:57:14] So, sorry, libraries.

[01:57:16] I feel for you in advance.

[01:57:17] Yeah.

[01:57:17] Because it is going to get bad.

[01:57:18] Yeah.

[01:57:19] Again.

[01:57:19] More.

[01:57:20] Worse.

[01:57:20] Probably.

[01:57:25] They might have to sign, like, a pledge to Trump if they want to keep their job.

[01:57:29] Oh, my God.

[01:57:30] Yeah.

[01:57:30] Like, I could totally see that happening.

[01:57:32] Like, that's so ridiculous, but not beyond the realm of possibility.

[01:57:36] Right.

[01:57:36] Yeah.

[01:57:36] So, yeah.

[01:57:37] Anyway, we've gone off on a whole, whole list of tangents here.

[01:57:42] So, if you're still with us, awesome.

[01:57:44] And congratulations for having finished yet another book of the Old Testament.

[01:57:49] Yeah.

[01:57:49] We will be back with a Q&A for these last four chapters.

[01:57:54] And then we will do a wrap-up.

[01:57:57] Yes.

[01:57:57] Of the entire book of Amos, all nine chapters.

[01:57:59] And then I'll get the weekly wrap-up out.

[01:58:02] Or weekly.

[01:58:02] No.

[01:58:03] No.

[01:58:03] No, I'm sorry.

[01:58:04] We will do the, you're always wrong.

[01:58:06] See, I was just wrong just then.

[01:58:08] Yeah.

[01:58:09] Yep.

[01:58:09] And then.

[01:58:10] And that will include a pop quiz where we will both be wrong.

[01:58:14] Right.

[01:58:15] And then.

[01:58:16] I'll get the weekly replay done.

[01:58:18] Yes.

[01:58:19] Yeah.

[01:58:19] And then.

[01:58:20] A lot of that might happen over Monday, or over the weekend.

[01:58:23] I'm not really sure how we're going to, because we're going to have to do that next book that's only one chapter.

[01:58:28] I was thinking that since the book after that has only four chapters, we might kind of lump them all together.

[01:58:35] Well.

[01:58:35] What do you think?

[01:58:36] I try to keep the certain things in their own little category with regard to like the weekly replays and stuff.

[01:58:44] Okay.

[01:58:45] So I don't know how we're going to play that exactly.

[01:58:47] Maybe we'll do some, you know, we still have the Jewish fairy tales to finish up.

[01:58:52] We do.

[01:58:52] And we could actually drag this, the remaining episodes we have right now.

[01:58:56] Into next week.

[01:58:57] Into next week.

[01:58:58] Okay.

[01:58:58] So that would help us out a little bit too.

[01:58:59] So maybe we won't do a lot of it over the weekend and we'll just let things slide through next week.

[01:59:05] Yeah.

[01:59:06] Stay tuned.

[01:59:06] You just never know what the fuck we're doing.

[01:59:08] Yeah.

[01:59:08] We'll release things when we release things.

[01:59:10] So.

[01:59:11] You'll get it.

[01:59:11] We've been doing better though.

[01:59:12] We have been doing better.

[01:59:13] I should knock on.

[01:59:15] No.

[01:59:15] No.

[01:59:15] I'm not superstitious.

[01:59:16] No, you're not.

[01:59:17] So whatever.

[01:59:19] Nope.

[01:59:20] All right.

[01:59:20] Anyway, guys, we're going to get out of here and we will see you.

[01:59:23] When we do.

[01:59:25] Probably tomorrow.

[01:59:25] But yeah, when we do.

[01:59:27] Yep.

[01:59:27] Thanks guys.

[01:59:28] Love you guys.

[01:59:28] Bye.

[01:59:35] Wife.

[01:59:36] Guess what happened to us?

[01:59:37] We didn't do an episode?

[01:59:39] No, we finished Amos.

[01:59:41] Oh, that.

[01:59:42] That bit.

[01:59:42] Yeah.

[01:59:43] No, we were.

[01:59:43] Yeah.

[01:59:44] We finished Amos.

[01:59:45] But that's not what we're here to talk about today.

[01:59:46] And then we skipped a couple of days.

[01:59:47] But you know, yeah, here we are.

[01:59:48] We finished Amos.

[01:59:49] And we're doing a Q&A.

[01:59:50] We're doing a Q&A.

[01:59:51] But this is not like the wrap up one.

[01:59:53] No.

[01:59:53] This is the one over the actual chapters we read.

[01:59:55] Right?

[01:59:56] Chapter six through nine.

[01:59:57] Okay.

[01:59:58] Yeah.

[01:59:58] You ready to get into this?

[02:00:00] I mean, am I?

[02:00:02] Yes, you are.

[02:00:02] Yes.

[02:00:03] Yes, I am.

[02:00:03] All right, let's do this.

[02:00:04] Okie dokie.

[02:00:11] All right.

[02:00:11] We are here to do a wrap up.

[02:00:14] Yeah.

[02:00:15] Just kidding.

[02:00:15] It's not a wrap up.

[02:00:17] It's a Q&A.

[02:00:17] Oh, yeah.

[02:00:18] What the fuck?

[02:00:19] You're just throwing me all off here.

[02:00:21] And you look green.

[02:00:22] Well, I just assumed you wouldn't, you know, say the wrong thing.

[02:00:25] And I assumed that you would correct me when I did.

[02:00:28] Well, you know.

[02:00:28] Shame on both of us.

[02:00:29] I didn't expect to have my correcting hat on the first like 10 seconds of the podcast.

[02:00:34] Three, sir.

[02:00:35] Yeah.

[02:00:36] My bad.

[02:00:36] My bad.

[02:00:36] Yeah.

[02:00:37] We're doing the Q&A over chapters six through nine of Amos.

[02:00:43] Amos.

[02:00:43] Yeah.

[02:00:43] The book which we have finished.

[02:00:45] And I just keep being so excited to get to the wrap up.

[02:00:49] But no, we're doing a Q&A.

[02:00:51] Yes.

[02:00:51] We're doing a Q&A.

[02:00:52] Chapter six starts out with like, whoa, to the pride of Jacob.

[02:00:58] Yeah.

[02:00:58] And the destruction of Israel.

[02:01:00] Okay.

[02:01:00] Okay.

[02:01:01] So here's the thing.

[02:01:03] Whereas chapter five was condemning the conduct of worship in Israel without justice.

[02:01:09] In chapter six, we're taken from the public worship of the people to the private banquets

[02:01:15] of the rich.

[02:01:16] Okay.

[02:01:17] Okay.

[02:01:18] But only in order to have their security and extravagance contrasted with the pestilence,

[02:01:24] the war, and the captivity that are rapidly approaching.

[02:01:27] I see.

[02:01:28] It's like you guys are living in real fancy stuff now, but it's about to get not good.

[02:01:33] Yeah.

[02:01:34] Like you better enjoy those grapes and those bonbons or whatever.

[02:01:38] Because shit be coming.

[02:01:39] Yeah.

[02:01:39] I mean, it's always coming because it's God.

[02:01:41] Right.

[02:01:41] It's right.

[02:01:41] Right.

[02:01:42] Obviously.

[02:01:43] So Israel's leaders deceive themselves that the nation is secure.

[02:01:46] They live prosperously and see no possibility of any immediate crisis because they're like,

[02:01:52] what?

[02:01:53] I call bullshit on that.

[02:01:54] Like, okay.

[02:01:56] To say that they don't see any crisis on the horizon with these warring factions out there.

[02:02:00] Yeah.

[02:02:01] Seems a little over the top when you're saying that they don't have any idea, but to live,

[02:02:05] you know, the way you live in the meantime is also not unusual.

[02:02:09] Like, hey, well, they're coming, but I still got my parties.

[02:02:12] I'm going to push back on that.

[02:02:13] Okay.

[02:02:14] Because we literally just lived through people in today with social media, even not having

[02:02:21] a fucking clue the difference between Harris and Trump.

[02:02:25] Right.

[02:02:26] They had no idea what's going on.

[02:02:28] They're not paying attention to the news.

[02:02:30] They don't know.

[02:02:31] Okay.

[02:02:31] And they're just living their lives.

[02:02:32] They're going to work.

[02:02:33] They're going out to the movies, whatever the fuck they're doing that lets them not be watching

[02:02:37] the news to where oblivious.

[02:02:40] Yeah.

[02:02:41] Oblivious.

[02:02:41] Right.

[02:02:43] Choicefully choosing oblivious.

[02:02:45] And that's what these people are doing.

[02:02:47] They might have the opportunity and means to know better because they are rich.

[02:02:52] Yeah.

[02:02:53] Obviously they have grapes and shit, right?

[02:02:55] Yeah.

[02:02:56] Grapes.

[02:02:56] They're laying on their fucking couches and, you know, whatever else we read in chapter

[02:03:01] five that I can't remember.

[02:03:02] Yeah.

[02:03:02] Right.

[02:03:03] So they have the ability to know better, but they choose not to.

[02:03:08] Right.

[02:03:08] So that's, that's my take on it.

[02:03:10] Okay.

[02:03:11] So when you say, oh, they might not know.

[02:03:13] I'm like, yeah, willful, willful ignorance.

[02:03:15] Okay.

[02:03:16] It cannot be excused in my opinion.

[02:03:17] I mean, there's no way to actually know, but yeah.

[02:03:18] I mean, either, it does sound plausible also that way.

[02:03:22] So, well, I mean, you were the one saying that, oh, I think they knew and I'm saying

[02:03:25] maybe they chose not to know.

[02:03:27] That's what I'm saying.

[02:03:28] Either, either way sounds good.

[02:03:29] Okay.

[02:03:30] I think that that's a valid, valid reason.

[02:03:32] Oh my God.

[02:03:33] I think I might've just won an argument with you.

[02:03:36] Wow.

[02:03:37] That's so great.

[02:03:38] Somebody out there notate it.

[02:03:39] Yeah.

[02:03:39] It feels really good.

[02:03:40] Mark it down on the notes.

[02:03:41] I feel like that was a strong argument I had though.

[02:03:44] Okay.

[02:03:45] And I got to fuck with Trump.

[02:03:47] Nice.

[02:03:47] Right.

[02:03:48] It's like a double win.

[02:03:49] I know, right?

[02:03:49] Yeah.

[02:03:50] All right.

[02:03:50] So Amos compares Israel to her pagan neighbors.

[02:03:54] Remember when he's like, fuck those, fuck these, fuck them.

[02:03:58] Yeah.

[02:03:58] All the nations suck.

[02:03:59] Right.

[02:04:00] Right.

[02:04:00] Reproving his people for indulging themselves in luxurious ease and for making alliances

[02:04:06] with their powerful, idolatrous neighbors.

[02:04:09] Okay.

[02:04:09] And that takes us, we're going to start with verse two.

[02:04:12] Go to Calna and look at it.

[02:04:15] Go from there to great Hamath and then go down to Gath in Philistia.

[02:04:20] Are they better off than your two kingdoms?

[02:04:22] Is their land larger than yours?

[02:04:25] And we were like, what the fuck is a Calna?

[02:04:28] What's a Hamath?

[02:04:29] What's a Gath?

[02:04:30] And what?

[02:04:31] Why?

[02:04:31] What?

[02:04:31] Do you remember?

[02:04:32] Right.

[02:04:32] Yeah.

[02:04:32] Okay.

[02:04:33] So Calna is an ancient city founded by Nimrod.

[02:04:37] Ooh.

[02:04:38] Right?

[02:04:38] Nimrod.

[02:04:38] He's bad.

[02:04:39] I know.

[02:04:39] He always pops up when you least expect it.

[02:04:42] Yeah.

[02:04:43] That's what Nimrods do.

[02:04:44] That is true.

[02:04:46] It's true.

[02:04:47] So Calna is an ancient city founded by Nimrod in the land of Shinar after the flood, likely

[02:04:53] located somewhere in the southern part of Mesopotamia between the modern day cities of Baghdad

[02:05:01] and Samara in Iraq.

[02:05:03] Likely, meaning we don't actually know because the city no longer exists and we haven't actually

[02:05:07] found it archaeologically.

[02:05:08] Right.

[02:05:08] Okay.

[02:05:09] Yeah.

[02:05:09] I just wanted to clarify that.

[02:05:11] But based on what we know about it, all the different clues point to somewhere in this,

[02:05:15] like definitely not the Americas.

[02:05:18] Right.

[02:05:18] Yeah.

[02:05:18] Yeah.

[02:05:19] Yeah.

[02:05:19] And definitely not in, say, India or like Japan.

[02:05:23] Sure.

[02:05:24] You know what I mean?

[02:05:24] Yeah.

[02:05:24] I think that was a, yeah.

[02:05:26] Yes.

[02:05:26] That was a given already.

[02:05:28] Right.

[02:05:28] But I'm just saying like they can narrow it down even within the country to probably somewhere

[02:05:32] between these two cities somewhere.

[02:05:33] Okay.

[02:05:34] Okay.

[02:05:34] So Hamath was a city, not to be confused with Hamas.

[02:05:39] Okay.

[02:05:40] Right.

[02:05:40] Right.

[02:05:40] I'm saying Hamath.

[02:05:42] Right.

[02:05:42] Was a city on the Orontes in Syria.

[02:05:47] I'm assuming that's a river.

[02:05:48] It's a river.

[02:05:49] Okay.

[02:05:50] All right.

[02:05:51] The Hittite Empire during the Iron Age saw the Neo-Hittite Aramaean city of Hamas named

[02:05:58] as the capital of one of the prosperous states known as Hamath, which traded extensively,

[02:06:05] particularly with Israel and Judah.

[02:06:07] Hamas today is a city on the banks of the Orontes River in west central Syria.

[02:06:17] It is located 132 miles north of Damascus, and it is the provincial capital city of Hamas governorate.

[02:06:31] Governorate?

[02:06:31] Sure.

[02:06:33] Yeah.

[02:06:33] I don't.

[02:06:34] Governorate?

[02:06:36] Governorate.

[02:06:37] Yeah.

[02:06:38] Sure.

[02:06:38] Governorate.

[02:06:39] Yeah.

[02:06:39] With a population of 996,000 people, according to the 2023 census, Hamas is the fourth largest

[02:06:49] city in Syria after Damascus.

[02:06:51] Okay.

[02:06:52] Aleppo and Horns.

[02:06:54] Got it.

[02:06:54] Okay.

[02:06:55] Yep.

[02:06:55] So it's one of those.

[02:06:56] It's very populous.

[02:06:57] Yeah.

[02:06:57] Yeah.

[02:06:58] Which is amazing.

[02:06:59] Like, oh, okay.

[02:07:00] Hello, Bible-ish city.

[02:07:02] I see you.

[02:07:03] Sure.

[02:07:03] Okay.

[02:07:04] Now, Gath, that was the other one that was mentioned in that verse.

[02:07:08] Yeah.

[02:07:08] Gath was one of the five main cities of Philistia during the Iron Age.

[02:07:12] It was located in northeastern Philistia, close to the border of Judah.

[02:07:17] It was one of the last refuges of the Anakim in front of the conquering Israelites under Joshua.

[02:07:24] Which was the giants.

[02:07:25] The giants.

[02:07:26] Yeah.

[02:07:26] Yeah.

[02:07:27] The Anakim were the halfy-halves, right?

[02:07:31] Yeah.

[02:07:32] The half-angel guys or something like that?

[02:07:34] There was some tie-in with that, but it wasn't necessarily.

[02:07:37] Right.

[02:07:37] They were just giant people.

[02:07:39] Maybe.

[02:07:40] Sort of.

[02:07:40] Yeah.

[02:07:41] Yeah.

[02:07:41] So Gath was either subdued during the days of Prophet Samuel or by King David, although

[02:07:47] the first book of Kings states that in the time of King Solomon, it was still ruled by a

[02:07:53] Philistine king named Ashish.

[02:07:55] Hmm.

[02:07:56] Of course, King Ashish is mentioned as the ruler of Gath for the times of Saul, David, and

[02:08:01] Solomon, making it uncertain whether this refers to two or more kings of the same name.

[02:08:08] I see.

[02:08:08] Like, we don't know.

[02:08:09] Yeah.

[02:08:09] That would be a long-serving king otherwise.

[02:08:11] Right?

[02:08:11] Yeah.

[02:08:12] Gath was also the home city of the Philistine giant Goliath and his brothers.

[02:08:18] Right.

[02:08:18] As well as of Itai Hagiti, one of King David's generals.

[02:08:24] Hmm.

[02:08:24] Okay.

[02:08:25] And his 600 soldiers who aided the king in his exile from his son Absalom.

[02:08:31] I remember that.

[02:08:32] Yeah.

[02:08:32] Like, he was hiding amongst them.

[02:08:33] He was.

[02:08:34] Yeah.

[02:08:35] David, while running from Saul, escaped to Gath and served under its king Ashish.

[02:08:40] Yeah.

[02:08:40] Like, oh, I forgot about that.

[02:08:43] Right.

[02:08:43] Cool, cool, cool.

[02:08:44] So, basically with this verse, Amos is saying, you have no more reason to expect exemption

[02:08:50] from the consequences of your sins than they had.

[02:08:53] They've been punished and so will you.

[02:08:55] Why then do you, why would you trust in their gods who could not even save their own cities?

[02:09:02] Right.

[02:09:02] You know?

[02:09:03] Yeah.

[02:09:03] Amos then asks if their neighbors' lands and lives are better than their own, that they

[02:09:08] would choose to worship the gods of the heathen and forsake Jehovah.

[02:09:13] And then Amos supplies an explanation of all the sins of which he reproves.

[02:09:17] He's like, you suck at this, you suck at those, you suck at these.

[02:09:21] Right.

[02:09:21] And then he attaches some awful threats, which, I mean, isn't anything new.

[02:09:25] He's always like, you suck so fucking much.

[02:09:27] And then it's like, and here's what's going to happen.

[02:09:30] Right.

[02:09:30] God's going to get you.

[02:09:31] Yeah.

[02:09:31] The upper class people live in luxury without any concern of consequences, what I was trying

[02:09:38] to say.

[02:09:39] For the injustice that is ruining the nation.

[02:09:42] When Israel is conquered, they will be the first in the group taken into captivity is what

[02:09:47] he's saying.

[02:09:47] Well, and that's usually true, right?

[02:09:49] Like, I mean, we've talked about this even with the Babylonian exile.

[02:09:51] Whoever conquers usually takes the brain trust first or the rich and the powerful and the

[02:09:56] people who have skills and all that because they usually take them in order to either

[02:10:02] enslave them or something, use them as collateral or whatever.

[02:10:05] Right.

[02:10:06] Or if they can't do any of those to do away with them altogether.

[02:10:09] Because at the very worst case scenario, it leaves the city defenseless and stupid.

[02:10:18] Leadership-less.

[02:10:18] Yeah.

[02:10:18] Yeah.

[02:10:19] Like basically a chicken running around with its head cut off.

[02:10:21] Yeah.

[02:10:22] Yeah.

[02:10:23] So Amos states that the high standing people in Israel will soon be brought low and reminds

[02:10:28] them that other nations were stronger than Israel and other cities were more prosperous

[02:10:32] than Samaria.

[02:10:33] But even they still fell to enemy armies.

[02:10:37] They must not have a very good God if there's all these other places that are more powerful

[02:10:41] than them.

[02:10:41] You know, that's the way I see it.

[02:10:42] That's the way I would see it, too.

[02:10:43] Yeah.

[02:10:44] I'll be like, oh, they are.

[02:10:45] Right.

[02:10:45] You have the God as your God, right?

[02:10:50] Why aren't you guys the most powerful people out there?

[02:10:53] Because God's not real.

[02:10:55] Right.

[02:10:55] Right.

[02:10:56] All right.

[02:10:57] So let's move on to verse five.

[02:10:59] You strum away on your harps like David and improvise on musical instruments.

[02:11:04] I was confused about this at the time because I'm like, we're saying this as though it's a

[02:11:08] bad thing.

[02:11:09] Right.

[02:11:10] Right.

[02:11:10] But you're also comparing it to David, who was good.

[02:11:13] Right.

[02:11:14] Right.

[02:11:14] Yeah.

[02:11:14] And so is it good or bad to play a harp?

[02:11:18] Well, here's the thing.

[02:11:19] Both.

[02:11:19] Oh, OK.

[02:11:20] Yeah.

[02:11:21] OK.

[02:11:22] OK.

[02:11:22] Let me read this.

[02:11:23] Well, no.

[02:11:24] I'll address your concern first.

[02:11:25] I was trying to think which would be better.

[02:11:26] Sure.

[02:11:27] OK.

[02:11:27] So playing the instrument in and of itself is not a bad thing.

[02:11:31] OK.

[02:11:32] But laying around eating grapes and fuck farting with, you know, with art stuff.

[02:11:38] Oh, OK.

[02:11:39] He's not saying I have a problem with art.

[02:11:42] He's saying I have a problem with you fucking around and pretending nothing is wrong while

[02:11:48] you're doing art.

[02:11:49] I see.

[02:11:49] OK.

[02:11:50] OK.

[02:11:50] Now, having said that, some churches today use this specific verse, Amos chapter six,

[02:11:57] verse five, to justify banning musical instruments and worship services.

[02:12:01] Hmm.

[02:12:02] However, when read in context, Amos's warning was directed at the complacent and prideful

[02:12:08] people of Israel and Judah who were enjoying leisure while forgetting God and disobeying

[02:12:14] his laws, which is basically what I said.

[02:12:16] Stop fucking around with your art.

[02:12:18] Yeah.

[02:12:18] God forbid you have time to do leisurely activities that are fun.

[02:12:21] And again, again, but not while you're fucking over the poor, not while there are.

[02:12:29] No, I get it.

[02:12:30] I get it.

[02:12:31] Not while you're owning slaves.

[02:12:32] But at the same time, there is like this whole thing.

[02:12:35] Like we say the Protestant work ethic.

[02:12:37] Right.

[02:12:38] Yes.

[02:12:38] Because because they don't like the idea of of art and leisure.

[02:12:44] And like you must work hard for everything that you get in this life.

[02:12:48] Right.

[02:12:49] Like idle hands are the devil's tools or something like that.

[02:12:52] But but my my my consternation with that thought is that the the idea that, you know, art and

[02:13:01] and philosophical endeavors are not the humanities in general are not hard is this bullshit.

[02:13:08] No.

[02:13:09] Right.

[02:13:09] Like, I mean, I don't like this idea that the only way to work is to work and grind your way to, you know, whatever you're doing.

[02:13:18] It's either to work physically or to use the one side of your brain.

[02:13:22] And like, hi, there's a whole other side of your brain.

[02:13:24] Right.

[02:13:25] There's like three ways to work.

[02:13:26] And you're saying that one of them doesn't count.

[02:13:28] Well, and the problem is that this idea of hard work, quote unquote, right.

[02:13:33] The reason that it gets such a grasp in society is because most people, this is how they do get ahead.

[02:13:40] Right.

[02:13:41] Yeah.

[02:13:41] They work hard to make the money they make and then they retire and then that's their life.

[02:13:44] And then they sell a planner saying how I plan my day and got where I got.

[02:13:50] Sure.

[02:13:50] But I don't ever personally want to take away from people who do it in a creative manner.

[02:13:55] Sure.

[02:13:55] I think creativity is important for sparking so much in this world and in humanity in general.

[02:14:02] And I think that if we didn't support that as well, we are doing a disservice to our planet.

[02:14:10] Well, there's a reason that music and creativity are taught to young children in order to stimulate their brain and to make them smarter.

[02:14:21] Yeah.

[02:14:22] Like, hi, can we keep that up maybe?

[02:14:25] Sure.

[02:14:25] We admit that it's a thing, but it's like once you're five and start school, we're like, okay, you're about smart enough now.

[02:14:32] Well, and those are the first things they cut out of school is the arts, right?

[02:14:35] Like the art classes, the music classes, things like that.

[02:14:40] And it's just, I have never, ever agreed with that line of thinking.

[02:14:45] No, they should all be equally emphasized.

[02:14:48] Right.

[02:14:49] Honestly, well-rounded education includes the humanities, the hard sciences.

[02:14:54] And the arts.

[02:14:55] Yeah.

[02:14:56] Well, yeah.

[02:14:57] Humanities, yeah.

[02:14:57] Right.

[02:14:58] Yeah.

[02:14:58] Yeah.

[02:14:59] All right.

[02:15:00] So moving on to the next section of this chapter, we're going to talk about the coming destruction of Israel.

[02:15:05] Okay.

[02:15:06] Yeah.

[02:15:06] So Amos pictures the scene when the enemy lays siege to Samaria.

[02:15:10] The city is delivered to destruction and the people die in thousands because of famine and plague.

[02:15:17] Yeah.

[02:15:18] When a person comes to a house to take away the corpse of a relative to burn it up, the lone survivor in the house warns him, do not speak.

[02:15:26] And certainly don't mention the name of Yahweh.

[02:15:28] Because they're trying to hide from God.

[02:15:30] Yeah.

[02:15:30] Yeah.

[02:15:31] Yeah.

[02:15:31] They do not want to attract God's attention in case he punishes them even more.

[02:15:35] Yeah.

[02:15:35] So basically, they realize that God himself is the one who sent this catastrophe.

[02:15:40] And this is confirmed by the oath of Jehovah.

[02:15:44] Yeah.

[02:15:45] Lots of people dying.

[02:15:46] Superstitions abound.

[02:15:48] And yeah.

[02:15:48] So they're hiding from some imaginary being who they think is causing this.

[02:15:52] Instead of like hiding from the plague.

[02:15:55] Right.

[02:15:55] Or what the fuck ever.

[02:15:56] Yeah.

[02:15:57] Yeah.

[02:15:57] Sure.

[02:15:57] So Amos next particularly specifies the punishment of their sins by pestilence.

[02:16:03] The injustice and pride of Israel make it a target of justice.

[02:16:07] I'm sorry, of judgment.

[02:16:09] Because, you know, murdering them is not enough.

[02:16:11] We got to go further than that.

[02:16:12] I mean, murder is fun, but it's not good enough.

[02:16:16] Sure.

[02:16:17] Amos further specifies the punishment of their sins by famine or drought that should harden the earth so that it could not be tilled.

[02:16:25] Right.

[02:16:25] Okay.

[02:16:25] So let's move on to verse 12.

[02:16:27] Do horses run on the rocky crags?

[02:16:30] Does one plow the sea with oxen?

[02:16:33] But you have turned justice into poison and the fruit of righteousness into bitterness.

[02:16:39] And we kind of like almost understood that, but not quite.

[02:16:42] We're like, what?

[02:16:44] Yeah.

[02:16:44] So this is what it's saying.

[02:16:46] A rock, a rock, a horse cannot run up a rocky cliff and a farmer cannot plow the sea.

[02:16:51] Obvious.

[02:16:52] Obviously.

[02:16:52] Yet the people of Israel have done what seems equally impossible.

[02:16:56] So he was giving examples of impossible things and saying, you're trying to do something impossible such as plow the sea.

[02:17:06] I got it.

[02:17:06] Okay.

[02:17:06] They have turned justice into injustice and right into wrong.

[02:17:10] They're living in the upside down.

[02:17:12] They made Trump president.

[02:17:13] I'm sorry.

[02:17:14] I keep going there, don't I?

[02:17:15] They have also foolishly boasted of their military strength because they have overrun two small towns.

[02:17:22] Whomp, whomp.

[02:17:23] God tells them that he will send an army to overrun their whole country from north to south.

[02:17:28] God told Amos.

[02:17:30] I'm just saying.

[02:17:31] Well, God is telling Amos to tell them.

[02:17:34] Right.

[02:17:34] No, that's what I'm saying.

[02:17:35] Amos is telling them.

[02:17:35] Yeah.

[02:17:36] He didn't tell them.

[02:17:37] He told Amos to tell them.

[02:17:38] Amos is saying, God told me to tell you this.

[02:17:40] Right.

[02:17:41] Yeah.

[02:17:41] Right.

[02:17:41] I always like to clarify that because people always, when you're talking to somebody who is Christian or whatever, they're like, well, God told them to.

[02:17:50] No, but not exactly.

[02:17:51] Right.

[02:17:51] Amos said that God told them.

[02:17:54] Yeah.

[02:17:54] Right.

[02:17:54] Yeah.

[02:17:54] And whether or not Amos was told by God, that's the part we're arguing about.

[02:17:59] Yeah.

[02:18:00] Yeah.

[02:18:01] All right.

[02:18:01] So verse 13 says, you who rejoice in the conquest of Lodabar and say, did we not take carnation?

[02:18:10] We are not.

[02:18:11] We are not.

[02:18:11] We are not.

[02:18:12] We are not.

[02:18:14] We are not.

[02:18:15] Okay.

[02:18:16] So the name Lodabar can be translated to mean nothing or no thing in Hebrew.

[02:18:23] It was likely a small, insignificant town in the region of Gilead.

[02:18:27] So the Israelites are sarcastically boasting about their conquest, quote unquote, of this teeny tiny place, which Amos highlights as meaningless or unimpressive.

[02:18:37] He's like, why are you bragging that you stepped on a fucking anthill?

[02:18:41] Right.

[02:18:41] Like, that's not even anything.

[02:18:43] Well, just to throw this out there, it's also meaningless to anybody reading this now.

[02:18:48] Sure.

[02:18:48] Right.

[02:18:49] Sure.

[02:18:49] And this is the quote unquote word of God.

[02:18:51] This is the Bible.

[02:18:52] And one of my biggest questions about the Bible in general is, why do we learn about things like Lodabar that have no significance to anybody today?

[02:19:03] And moreover, just the mere act of trying to interpret what that is for most people is going to be an exercise in futility because it's such a nuanced thing that happened or occurred.

[02:19:16] Right.

[02:19:16] And as we get further along in history, you know, another hundred, two hundred thousand years down the road, these things are going to be even more obscure and less relevant.

[02:19:24] Right.

[02:19:24] But yet we're supposed to take this as the word of God.

[02:19:28] Okay.

[02:19:29] I totally, 100% agree with you, but I think that that argument is not best made by this example because the name of the city is unimportant here.

[02:19:39] I understand, but it makes that section somewhat unreadable because you don't know exactly what they're talking about.

[02:19:47] And they don't really, if God is God, why hasn't it been updated in the last, you know, 500 years?

[02:19:59] No, I totally agree with you.

[02:20:00] To be more relevant to the people today.

[02:20:02] There should be some prophet out there that wrote down this new version of the Bible to be relevant to whatever is happening now.

[02:20:09] I mean, we talked about being the new prophet.

[02:20:11] No, I can't.

[02:20:14] But yet we're left with this idea of this book from 2,000, 3,000 years ago and the stories that are, you know, built into that book.

[02:20:22] These are canon.

[02:20:24] These are the things that we're supposed to accept as forever the word of God.

[02:20:28] And it just doesn't make any sense as to like some of the writing, some of this stuff just doesn't make any sense.

[02:20:34] Yeah.

[02:20:34] So that's all.

[02:20:35] No, I totally agree.

[02:20:36] And you're right.

[02:20:37] It's a good question.

[02:20:38] Yeah.

[02:20:39] So that was Lobar.

[02:20:41] But what is Karnim?

[02:20:43] Like, did we not take Karnim by our own strength was the rest of that question?

[02:20:47] Karnim means horns.

[02:20:49] And in some translations, it actually says horns instead of Karnim.

[02:20:53] Oh, okay.

[02:20:53] Yeah.

[02:20:54] In Hebrew, symbolizing strength or power.

[02:20:57] It was another town located in Bashan, which was a region known for its wealth and strength.

[02:21:05] Taking Karnim by force would be a more significant accomplishment, but the boast by our own strength shows their arrogance and failure to attribute their success to God.

[02:21:18] Oh, I see.

[02:21:19] So they were able to do something greater.

[02:21:20] Yeah.

[02:21:23] Yeah.

[02:21:23] Okay.

[02:21:23] Yeah.

[02:21:24] Got it.

[02:21:24] Like, here's the thing.

[02:21:25] If you crush somebody weak, you're a piece of shit and it doesn't count.

[02:21:29] If you crush somebody strong, you're still a piece of shit because it wasn't you.

[02:21:34] It was God.

[02:21:34] But if they weren't giving it to God, right, and they went to go conquer this town that was going to be stronger, in the past, God has made them fail because they didn't, you know, bring God into it.

[02:21:45] Yeah.

[02:21:46] Why didn't he stop them from conquering that city?

[02:21:49] That if it's not a boast, if it's not something that, then why didn't God help them win over the Israelites that weren't accepting them?

[02:21:57] Ours is not to question God.

[02:21:59] No, actually, that's exactly what we're doing here.

[02:22:02] I was being a Christian robot.

[02:22:03] I know, but I'm just saying that our entire, yeah, our podcast, this podcast.

[02:22:08] Yeah.

[02:22:08] Right.

[02:22:08] Yeah.

[02:22:08] That's us.

[02:22:09] We're questioning these things because why not?

[02:22:12] I got a question for you.

[02:22:14] Do you?

[02:22:15] Preguntas.

[02:22:15] Okay.

[02:22:16] Yeah.

[02:22:17] So anyway, that verse ties into the larger theme of Amos, which is a warning against arrogance, complacency, and ignoring God's justice.

[02:22:25] And thus concludes chapter six.

[02:22:27] Okay.

[02:22:27] Okay.

[02:22:28] So chapter seven now.

[02:22:29] Okay.

[02:22:30] Yep.

[02:22:30] Is about visions of judgment and the power of the prophet's prayer.

[02:22:34] Okay.

[02:22:35] So the seventh, eighth, and ninth chapters of Amos contain visions and their explanations.

[02:22:41] Okay.

[02:22:41] So now we're going back to, you know, visions and stuff.

[02:22:44] Right.

[02:22:44] In this chapter, God represents to Amos by three separate visions, the judgments he is about to bring on Israel, the locust, the fire or drought, and the plumb line.

[02:22:58] Remember those?

[02:22:59] Yes, I do.

[02:23:00] The visions are then, quote unquote, interrupted by a narrative about Amos and his listeners in Bethel.

[02:23:06] Remember, Amaziah's like, you need to leave, bro.

[02:23:09] So fucking out of place.

[02:23:10] Right?

[02:23:10] Yeah.

[02:23:11] Before they continue on with the visions in chapter eight.

[02:23:13] Right.

[02:23:13] Okay.

[02:23:13] Yeah.

[02:23:14] So, but we're still in chapter seven.

[02:23:16] So let's read about that.

[02:23:17] Okay.

[02:23:18] So God's patience before judgment and judgment seen in three visions of destruction.

[02:23:24] And that happens in verses one through nine.

[02:23:27] Okay.

[02:23:27] So the first vision is a plague of locusts threatening to cut off the hopes of the harvest by attacking it in the time of the second growth.

[02:23:36] And the second growth means like they cut the first part off to give to the king and then keep the second one.

[02:23:43] And then whatever.

[02:23:44] The king gets his bit.

[02:23:45] Yeah.

[02:23:45] Regardless.

[02:23:46] Yeah.

[02:23:46] The first luxuries of the crop being mowed for the king's horses.

[02:23:50] Right.

[02:23:50] So it wasn't just the king.

[02:23:52] It was the king's horses.

[02:23:53] And all the king's men?

[02:23:54] Not the king's men.

[02:23:55] They get the second bit.

[02:23:57] Farmers paid their taxes by giving the king the first reaping of their harvest.

[02:24:02] After this, a second crop grew, which provided the main harvest for the people.

[02:24:06] And it was this second crop that Amos in his vision saw threatened with destruction from a plague of locusts,

[02:24:13] which we talked about earlier that that is a very common event that happens in that area, even still today.

[02:24:21] Right.

[02:24:21] So not exactly a godly event.

[02:24:26] Sure.

[02:24:26] And very believable, actually, that this happened.

[02:24:29] Maybe not at this particular moment, but sure, any time during those biblical times.

[02:24:34] Right.

[02:24:35] So if God judged Israel in this way, it might never recover if those locusts came and ate up all the...

[02:24:42] I see.

[02:24:43] Yeah.

[02:24:43] Except for that they have had locust attacks in the past.

[02:24:46] Yeah.

[02:24:46] And they've managed to recover.

[02:24:48] But, I mean, back then they had no idea, like, what's going to happen tomorrow if all of our fucking grains are gone.

[02:24:55] Yeah.

[02:24:55] You know?

[02:24:55] No, I get it.

[02:24:56] So when Amos pleaded on behalf of Israel for God's mercy, God answered his prayer, if you recall.

[02:25:03] Yeah.

[02:25:03] Okay.

[02:25:03] The next vision threatens a judgment by fire or drought.

[02:25:06] And it just depends on which interpretation you read.

[02:25:09] Sure.

[02:25:09] Which would consume a great part of the land.

[02:25:11] And we're going to read verse 4.

[02:25:14] This is what the sovereign Lord showed me.

[02:25:16] Remember, we were like, whoa, showed me?

[02:25:19] One more.

[02:25:19] Well, you upgraded.

[02:25:21] The sovereign Lord was calling for judgment by fire.

[02:25:24] Fire!

[02:25:25] Fire!

[02:25:25] It dried up the great deep and devoured the land.

[02:25:28] All right.

[02:25:29] So let's talk about that a little bit.

[02:25:31] Most translations associate the fire with a drought, like I said, although some take it to mean that God would permit war, both civil and foreign, to harass the land after the death of Jeroboam II.

[02:25:43] I see.

[02:25:44] Okay?

[02:25:44] Okay.

[02:25:44] So the third vision is a total overthrow of Israel, leaving it as it were by a line.

[02:25:53] So now we're moving on to the plumb line.

[02:25:55] Okay.

[02:25:56] Yep.

[02:25:56] When Amos told the people as a whole persist in their sin, he knew that judgment could no longer be avoided.

[02:26:03] And as a builder tests a wall with a plumb line to see if it is straight, so God tests Israel according to his perfect standard to see if it is morally upright.

[02:26:13] And that's what the plumb line was for.

[02:26:15] Does God actually have a perfect standard, though?

[02:26:17] No, he does not.

[02:26:18] I don't think so, yeah.

[02:26:19] Not that I've been able to locate.

[02:26:20] No.

[02:26:21] No, this fucking book is so wishy-washy, topsy-turvy.

[02:26:24] Timey-wimey.

[02:26:25] Yeah.

[02:26:26] Yeah.

[02:26:26] He finds that, he, God, finds that it is crooked beyond repair and must be demolished.

[02:26:32] Of course he does.

[02:26:33] Corrupt religion and corrupt administration have been the cause of the country's failure.

[02:26:38] Always.

[02:26:39] And these are things upon which the judgment falls most heavily.

[02:26:43] Yeah.

[02:26:43] Okay?

[02:26:43] Because you're not worshiping your God enough.

[02:26:46] Yeah.

[02:26:46] He's jealous.

[02:26:47] Basically.

[02:26:47] He's pissed.

[02:26:48] He mad.

[02:26:49] He big mad.

[02:26:49] Yeah.

[02:26:49] Bigly.

[02:26:50] Right.

[02:26:51] So verse 8 reads,

[02:26:52] And the Lord asked me,

[02:26:53] What do you see, Amos?

[02:26:54] A plumb line, I replied.

[02:26:56] Then the Lord said,

[02:26:57] Look, I'm setting a plumb line among my people Israel.

[02:27:00] I will spare them no longer.

[02:27:02] So plumb line here appears to be intended as an emblem of strict justice, which we talked about earlier.

[02:27:09] Got it.

[02:27:09] And intimated that God would now visit them according to their iniquities by justice and without any mixture of mercy.

[02:27:17] Okay.

[02:27:17] Because, you know, God is justified.

[02:27:19] Yeah.

[02:27:20] Right.

[02:27:20] So, yeah.

[02:27:21] Whatever he does is justified.

[02:27:23] Right.

[02:27:24] Right.

[02:27:24] To him anyway.

[02:27:25] Yeah.

[02:27:26] Yeah.

[02:27:26] Of course.

[02:27:27] Right.

[02:27:27] He's the only one that matters.

[02:27:28] Sure.

[02:27:29] Yeah.

[02:27:29] Yeah.

[02:27:29] So verse 9 then reads,

[02:27:41] So the high place of Isaac was Beersheba, where Isaac had built an altar to the Lord back in Genesis chapter 26.

[02:27:49] Okay.

[02:27:50] And this high place, which had been abused to idolatrous uses, was demolished by Josiah, king of Judah, in 2 Kings chapter 23.

[02:27:59] Okay.

[02:28:00] Okay.

[02:28:00] So back in 2 Kings, the Lord had promised to Jehu, the ancestor of Jeroboam, that his family should sit on the throne of Israel to the fourth generation.

[02:28:11] Zechariah, the son of Jeroboam, was the fourth in order after Jehu.

[02:28:16] And onto him is where the threat of this verse fell.

[02:28:21] Because he was murdered by Shalom after he had reigned only six months.

[02:28:26] Oh.

[02:28:26] And in him, the family did indeed become extinct.

[02:28:29] Oh.

[02:28:30] So.

[02:28:30] Dang.

[02:28:30] There's a prophecy that kind of came true, I guess, whatever.

[02:28:34] Sure.

[02:28:35] But again, you could always question when.

[02:28:36] When it was written is what matters.

[02:28:38] Yeah.

[02:28:38] Or whether it was interjected after it was written.

[02:28:41] You know what I mean?

[02:28:41] Like, there's so many things that are going on in the Bible that it's hard to keep track of what was written when, who wrote it, whether or not it was inserted after the fact.

[02:28:50] You know, there's all these different things that happen.

[02:28:52] Yeah.

[02:28:52] Totally.

[02:28:53] I don't take a lot of it as gospel.

[02:28:55] Right.

[02:28:55] Because I'm like, nah, I don't know.

[02:28:57] Well, it's also kind of like, too, how a newspaper will print copies of newspapers for a win going either way.

[02:29:07] Right.

[02:29:08] Or used to before digital took over.

[02:29:11] Yeah.

[02:29:11] So that they were prepared to release newspapers for whichever team won the Super Bowl or whichever president won the election or whatever.

[02:29:20] Sure.

[02:29:20] Right.

[02:29:20] And they'd be ready to go because they had a newspaper for either possibility.

[02:29:25] Right.

[02:29:25] And so it strikes me that that's not exactly a new idea.

[02:29:29] These folks definitely could have had shit that was like, let's prepare this, this and this to see what happens.

[02:29:36] And, you know, whichever one proves out, that's the one we'll go with.

[02:29:40] So I don't know.

[02:29:41] Yeah.

[02:29:41] Just putting that out there.

[02:29:42] So then we move on to the rest of the chapter, which is a denunciation of heavy judgments against Amaziah, priest of Bethel, who had brought an accusation against Amos to the king.

[02:29:55] Amos is expelled from Bethel, where he had been warning about the impending threat to the northern kingdom.

[02:30:02] Right.

[02:30:03] I think that's some of what we didn't necessarily pick up like or I didn't pick it up anyway.

[02:30:08] OK.

[02:30:08] OK.

[02:30:08] So Amos has been walking around and talking about y'all suck, y'all going to burn up or whatever.

[02:30:15] Yeah.

[02:30:16] And Amaziah is like, why don't you go to that other kingdom?

[02:30:19] So this is a Judah versus Israel.

[02:30:21] Right.

[02:30:22] Right.

[02:30:22] Which I did not pick up at the time.

[02:30:24] OK.

[02:30:25] But there's been other prophets who got in trouble for saying that they're going to get attacked.

[02:30:29] Yeah.

[02:30:29] Totally.

[02:30:30] So this isn't something new.

[02:30:32] No.

[02:30:32] And it goes back to the same idea where we talk about this is politics, basically.

[02:30:36] Yep.

[02:30:37] Definitely.

[02:30:37] Some theists consider it probable that Amos left Bethel in compliance with Amaziah's directives

[02:30:44] and withdrew to Judah, noting that the verb used here in Hebrew refers to fleeing one's

[02:30:50] home country to a foreign state, suggesting that Amos's hometown of Tekoa was in the Galilee

[02:30:57] of Samaria and not the Tekoa south of Jerusalem.

[02:31:01] OK.

[02:31:01] So he might have went.

[02:31:03] Got it.

[02:31:03] Who knows?

[02:31:04] Yeah.

[02:31:04] Amaziah, the idolatrous.

[02:31:07] I have such a hard time with that word.

[02:31:08] The idolatrous priest who had been established by the king to maintain the worship of the

[02:31:16] golden calves.

[02:31:17] Which Jeroboam, the elder, had set up at this place.

[02:31:22] Heard Amos's preaching at Bethel and was furious that he so boldly denounced Israel's

[02:31:27] religious practices.

[02:31:28] Right.

[02:31:29] So he's like, excuse you?

[02:31:31] I'm the one telling religious stories here, not you.

[02:31:34] Yeah.

[02:31:34] So Amaziah planned to get rid of the unwelcome prophet by accusing him of treason because

[02:31:41] of his announcements of judgment on the royal house.

[02:31:44] So Amaziah went to the king and was like, excuse me, can we do something about this fucking

[02:31:50] prophet guy?

[02:31:51] He's like really getting in the way of my business.

[02:31:53] Politics.

[02:31:54] Right.

[02:31:54] Yeah.

[02:31:55] But the king apparently took no interest in the priest's accusations.

[02:31:59] So Amaziah, therefore, tried to persuade Amos to return to Judah where people would welcome

[02:32:05] his prophecies against Israel and so pay him generously.

[02:32:09] See, I didn't get any of this.

[02:32:10] And that makes verse 14 make so much more sense.

[02:32:14] Verse 14 reads, Amos answered Amaziah, I was neither a prophet nor the son of a prophet,

[02:32:20] but I was a shepherd and I also took care of sycamore fig trees.

[02:32:24] And we took that to mean that he was like, whoa, I'm not even a prophet.

[02:32:29] Like, I don't even work with these guys.

[02:32:31] I wasn't even there.

[02:32:32] You know, like, I'm just telling you what God said.

[02:32:34] Yeah.

[02:32:34] But there's more to it.

[02:32:36] Amos replies that he's not a professional prophet and never has been.

[02:32:39] He's a common farmer whom God called to announce his message to Israel.

[02:32:43] And Amos is basically saying, I am an extraordinary messenger of God.

[02:32:48] I am not called to the prophetic office, but for this particular occasion.

[02:32:54] I have no message to Judah and therefore need not go there.

[02:32:58] I only have a message to Israel alone and I must faithfully deliver it.

[02:33:04] I see.

[02:33:04] That's interesting, right?

[02:33:05] Like, oh, okay, I get it.

[02:33:07] He's like saying, you know, I'm not actually a prophet.

[02:33:11] I'm just here to deliver this one message.

[02:33:14] And you're telling me to go sell my story somewhere else.

[02:33:18] But my story isn't for them.

[02:33:19] Right.

[02:33:20] It's for y'all.

[02:33:20] Yeah.

[02:33:21] So that's interesting to me.

[02:33:23] No, definitely.

[02:33:24] So in addition, he has a message for Amosiah.

[02:33:27] Do you remember what it is?

[02:33:28] I do not.

[02:33:29] Your wife's a fucking whore and your kids will die.

[02:33:32] And oh, yeah, so will you.

[02:33:33] Yeah, it was such a beautiful thing.

[02:33:36] What?

[02:33:36] Yeah.

[02:33:37] It was so, like, out of the blue.

[02:33:39] It was like, like, I could get down with his message of, you know, I'm here to tell this

[02:33:45] story only for y'all.

[02:33:47] It doesn't apply to anybody else.

[02:33:48] So I'm not leaving.

[02:33:49] Like, that made sense.

[02:33:50] That was part of the Bible.

[02:33:51] Like, that's a great Bible story, right?

[02:33:52] Yeah.

[02:33:53] Okay.

[02:33:53] I'm down.

[02:33:54] And then he's like, and by the way, fuck you and your wife and your children and the

[02:33:58] horse you rode in on.

[02:33:59] Wait, what?

[02:34:00] Calm your tits, bro.

[02:34:01] I was on board till you went there.

[02:34:04] So when Israel is eventually conquered, Amaziah's wife will become a prostitute for the enemy

[02:34:09] soldiers.

[02:34:10] His children will be killed.

[02:34:12] Jesus.

[02:34:12] And his land will be divided by the conquerors.

[02:34:15] As says God.

[02:34:16] Per God.

[02:34:17] Yeah, exactly.

[02:34:18] What the fuck?

[02:34:19] Right?

[02:34:19] And there's some question, some quote unquote scholars wonder if Amaziah's wife wasn't already

[02:34:26] an under the table prostitute because she was, you know, the wife of part of the uppity

[02:34:35] muck schmuck, you know, the, the, what is he?

[02:34:40] He's like a religious leader.

[02:34:42] He's a priest dude, right?

[02:34:43] Amaziah?

[02:34:44] Oh, yeah.

[02:34:45] I think so.

[02:34:45] Oh, oh.

[02:34:46] And so like the temple priestess or whatever.

[02:34:48] Yeah.

[02:34:48] Something like that.

[02:34:48] Yeah.

[02:34:49] Okay.

[02:34:49] So some scholars are like, she probably already was a prostitute, but the fact that, and

[02:34:55] that's kind of embarrassing enough, although maybe not because.

[02:34:58] Because of religious practices.

[02:35:00] And their rights and all that.

[02:35:01] Right, yeah, yeah.

[02:35:01] But her being a prostitute to the enemy soldiers, that, that changes everything.

[02:35:07] Yeah.

[02:35:08] Because then.

[02:35:09] Because then it has nothing to do with their God or anything.

[02:35:10] It's not a choice.

[02:35:12] She's not making a choice in it and he's not making a choice.

[02:35:15] Right.

[02:35:15] So, yeah, that's gross all the way around.

[02:35:18] Sure.

[02:35:18] And, you know, your kids will die too is pretty.

[02:35:20] Yeah.

[02:35:21] Not cool.

[02:35:21] That's pretty awful.

[02:35:22] So that concludes chapter seven and we move on to chapter eight.

[02:35:26] Okay.

[02:35:26] Okay.

[02:35:26] So this chapter opens with a vision of a basket of summer fruit.

[02:35:30] Remember?

[02:35:31] Yes, I do.

[02:35:32] For like the ripe fruit, Israel nears its end.

[02:35:35] Yeah.

[02:35:36] Okay.

[02:35:36] Yeah.

[02:35:36] So we're going to talk about the rotting and corruption.

[02:35:38] The time was ripe.

[02:35:39] The time was ripe.

[02:35:41] For Israel's destruction.

[02:35:41] Yeah.

[02:35:41] And you were like, I see what you did there.

[02:35:44] I understood that reference.

[02:35:46] So Amos is given a fourth vision denoting the certainty and nearness of the destruction

[02:35:52] of Israel.

[02:35:53] Just as the harvest comes to an end and the fruit is gathered into baskets, so Israel has

[02:35:59] come to its end and will be punished.

[02:36:01] Celebration will be turned into mourning and hope will be replaced by despair.

[02:36:08] Right.

[02:36:08] When the enemy attacks, the slaughter will be so extensive that bodies will lie.

[02:36:13] I'm buried in the streets and fields for days.

[02:36:17] Let the bodies hit the floor.

[02:36:18] Let the bodies hit the floor.

[02:36:20] I mean, this is a very angry, destructive, murderous God that they have.

[02:36:26] Let the bodies hit the floor.

[02:36:29] I don't, it doesn't make, like, this is so contrary to what, you know, the New Testament

[02:36:35] God gets pushed as, right?

[02:36:37] Yeah.

[02:36:38] And I know, I know.

[02:36:39] Things change.

[02:36:40] But this is still the God.

[02:36:42] Yeah.

[02:36:42] It's the same God.

[02:36:43] It's still the same God.

[02:36:44] It's still Yahweh.

[02:36:45] It's still Jehovah.

[02:36:46] You can't tell me it's not because it's still, it's the same fucking book.

[02:36:49] You're saying this is your God.

[02:36:50] Yeah.

[02:36:51] Yeah.

[02:36:51] Very cool.

[02:36:52] Love it.

[02:36:53] Love it.

[02:36:54] So Amos returns to conditions in Israel to indicate that one reason for the nation's

[02:36:58] downfall is, of course, as we've been saying this whole bit, the upper classes' dishonesty,

[02:37:05] their exploitation of lower classes, their cheating the poor, and their oppression and

[02:37:09] injustice, all of that stuff.

[02:37:11] They've been bad.

[02:37:12] Yeah.

[02:37:12] You know, eating grapes and, you know, laying on the couch with bonbons.

[02:37:16] Right, right.

[02:37:17] Okay?

[02:37:17] So verses four, five, and six, I'm going to read here in succession here.

[02:37:23] Okay?

[02:37:23] Okay.

[02:37:24] Hear this, you who trample the needy and do away with the poor of the land, saying,

[02:37:29] When will the new moon be over that we may sell grain and the Sabbath be ended, that

[02:37:33] we may market wheat, skimping on the measure, boosting the price and cheating with dishonest

[02:37:39] scales, buying the poor with silver and the needy for a pair of sandals, selling even the

[02:37:45] sweepings with the wheat.

[02:37:46] Remember all that?

[02:37:47] Yeah.

[02:37:47] Yeah.

[02:37:48] So greedy merchants, annoyed that they must stop work whenever there is a religious holy

[02:37:53] day, can hardly wait for the holy day to pass so that they can get back to the job of making

[02:37:59] money.

[02:38:00] Right.

[02:38:00] Now, I don't know if you caught this, but they mentioned the new moon.

[02:38:05] They're waiting for the new moon to be over.

[02:38:07] Okay.

[02:38:07] That's not actually one of the, like, gaudy holidays.

[02:38:10] That's one of the people holidays.

[02:38:12] Oh, okay.

[02:38:13] So the celebration of the new moon was kept as a kind of holy day, not by divine command,

[02:38:19] but by custom.

[02:38:20] Oh.

[02:38:21] Okay.

[02:38:21] So it's like a pagan leftover.

[02:38:22] Yeah.

[02:38:23] Yeah.

[02:38:23] Okay.

[02:38:24] The Sabbath was strictly holy and yet so covetous were they that they grudged to give to God

[02:38:31] and their own souls this seventh portion of their time.

[02:38:35] Yeah.

[02:38:36] So.

[02:38:36] I mean, they don't do it anymore.

[02:38:38] No.

[02:38:39] No.

[02:38:39] I mean, corporate America has got their foot in the door with regard to that.

[02:38:42] I actually read a whole diatribe about that while I was studying this verse.

[02:38:47] Yeah.

[02:38:47] That, yeah, not a problem anymore.

[02:38:50] And a lot of the Christians in this, in while I was studying this, were going off about how

[02:38:59] people that keep their businesses open on Sunday, they're going to feel the pain later.

[02:39:05] Yeah.

[02:39:05] Everybody should be like Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A.

[02:39:08] Look, I'm kind of torn about this, right?

[02:39:10] I don't believe in God.

[02:39:12] Right.

[02:39:12] In any way whatsoever.

[02:39:13] I believe in a day off for humans.

[02:39:14] Right.

[02:39:15] Right.

[02:39:15] Yeah.

[02:39:15] And if it falls on a Sunday to appease, you know, humans and people who have religious

[02:39:20] practices, who gives a fuck?

[02:39:21] I don't give a fuck what the day is.

[02:39:23] Can we just have it?

[02:39:24] It would be nice to have some of these like scheduled human days off.

[02:39:28] Right.

[02:39:29] And for whatever reason, it doesn't really matter.

[02:39:31] Yeah.

[02:39:32] Like it's nice to have days that you can count on having off.

[02:39:36] Right.

[02:39:37] Period.

[02:39:37] Yeah.

[02:39:38] I mean, we celebrate the family part of Christmas, if not the religious part of it.

[02:39:44] And we're glad for the day off.

[02:39:47] Right.

[02:39:48] But a lot of companies stay open even on Christmas Day now.

[02:39:52] They do.

[02:39:52] Which is just tragic to me because it's always the people at the bottom of the totem pole

[02:39:58] that get forced to work in.

[02:40:00] Yeah, I know they get time and a half and they don't have to and blah, blah, blah.

[02:40:03] And I'm like, fuck off.

[02:40:05] You know, if you're like a flat tire away from being homeless.

[02:40:10] Yeah.

[02:40:11] You're going to work the time and a half on the holiday or double time and a half or

[02:40:14] what the fuck ever.

[02:40:15] I think the richest and the highest up should be the ones that have to work at those places

[02:40:18] on the holidays.

[02:40:19] Right.

[02:40:19] Yeah.

[02:40:20] Like you're the one that like can't quite get enough millions.

[02:40:23] Right.

[02:40:23] So make them work in a store.

[02:40:25] Yeah.

[02:40:25] Make the CEOs go into a freaking, you know, corner, corner lot place.

[02:40:29] And run down and run the register that day.

[02:40:32] I think that would be like the greatest for their company.

[02:40:35] Like when you like your company to be known as the nice one, not the one that exploits.

[02:40:42] You know what?

[02:40:42] If I would if I ran my own company and I wanted to stay open all the time, I think I would

[02:40:47] do something like that.

[02:40:48] Like if you know, if you're management with us, you're going to end up working that day

[02:40:51] by yourself.

[02:40:52] The people down from you like I'll be working there with you.

[02:40:56] Right.

[02:40:56] Like, you know, the people that are higher up in the chain, you're going to be working

[02:41:00] those days.

[02:41:01] Not your people.

[02:41:02] Yeah.

[02:41:02] You know, let people have a day of relaxation to be with their families and to celebrate

[02:41:09] with their children or or the other children in their lives.

[02:41:12] I know it's a novel idea.

[02:41:13] Right.

[02:41:14] But, you know, Jesus, it shouldn't be.

[02:41:16] It shouldn't be.

[02:41:17] Like, you mentioned the word grinding earlier, and that's all I can think.

[02:41:21] Just like hustle, hustle, hustle culture.

[02:41:24] Always working.

[02:41:25] Never not working.

[02:41:26] No, I think I think relaxation is something that this world is trying to make extinct.

[02:41:30] You know?

[02:41:31] So, yeah.

[02:41:32] So I just read about the new moon and how we still celebrate that even at Easter time.

[02:41:38] Yay.

[02:41:38] Yep.

[02:41:39] Moving on.

[02:41:39] The coming judgment will smash the sinful people like an earthquake and overthrow them

[02:41:45] like a flood.

[02:41:45] I know I'm shocked.

[02:41:47] Right?

[02:41:47] Yeah.

[02:41:48] So this is how God's going to judge Israel.

[02:41:50] Okay.

[02:41:50] Their doom is at hand.

[02:41:52] So verse eight reads, will not the land tremble for this and all who live in it mourn?

[02:41:59] The whole land will rise like the Nile.

[02:42:01] It will be stirred up and then sink like the river of Egypt.

[02:42:05] Now, some translations actually read, and it shall ride up wholly as a flood and it shall be

[02:42:12] rise up.

[02:42:13] Sorry.

[02:42:13] I said ride up.

[02:42:14] Didn't I?

[02:42:14] It shall rise up wholly as a flood and it shall be cast out and drowned as by the flood of

[02:42:21] Egypt.

[02:42:21] It's just a slightly different wording, but kind of cool.

[02:42:25] So cast out and drowned or swept away and overwhelmed.

[02:42:28] Those are just different translations also that come into play.

[02:42:33] Okay.

[02:42:33] Okay.

[02:42:34] As the land adjoining the Nile is by it, when there is flooding, the Nile generally rises

[02:42:40] about 20 feet, which I think I had mentioned before.

[02:42:43] Yeah.

[02:42:43] And then the waters cast out mire and dirt.

[02:42:47] Okay.

[02:42:47] So that's what they're saying.

[02:42:49] Oh, well, yeah.

[02:42:50] Yeah.

[02:42:50] I mean, when you have a flooding river, it's going to bring some of that silt and everything

[02:42:55] from the riverbed over to the places that normally don't have that, which is good for

[02:42:59] farming.

[02:43:00] Yeah.

[02:43:00] So now I'm going to read verses 11 through 14 in succession here.

[02:43:05] Okay.

[02:43:05] The days are coming, declares the sovereign Lord, when I will send a famine through the

[02:43:09] land, not a famine of food or a thirst for water, but a famine of hearing the words of

[02:43:14] the Lord.

[02:43:14] People will stagger from sea to sea and wander from north to east searching for the word

[02:43:20] of the Lord, but they will not find it.

[02:43:22] In that day, the lovely young women and strong young men will faint because of thirst.

[02:43:28] Those who swear by the sin of Samaria, who say, as surely as your God lives, Dan, or as

[02:43:35] surely as the God of Beersheba lives, they will fall never to rise again.

[02:43:40] Okay.

[02:43:41] And we were like, the fuck?

[02:43:42] What?

[02:43:43] Huh?

[02:43:43] Right.

[02:43:44] Like, we kind of understood the wording that, and we understood that there's going to be

[02:43:49] like a lack of prophets and a lack of ability to find any direction via God's words.

[02:43:56] But we were like, what is all this mention of all these places?

[02:43:59] I don't get it.

[02:44:00] So this is not merely a physical darkness, but a spiritual darkness that's going to continue

[02:44:05] to cover the nation without even the small amount of light at present supplied by the

[02:44:10] prophets.

[02:44:11] In their mourning and distress, people will suddenly become hungry for God's word, but they'll

[02:44:16] not find it no matter how hard they search.

[02:44:18] Anyway, whatever.

[02:44:19] Samaria was one of the things mentioned.

[02:44:22] Samaria, the sin of Samaria.

[02:44:25] They worshipped Baal there.

[02:44:27] So that's why they mentioned that.

[02:44:28] Okay.

[02:44:29] And then, as surely as your God lives, Dan, we were like, excuse you, Dan.

[02:44:35] Right.

[02:44:35] The golden calf was worshipped there.

[02:44:37] Okay.

[02:44:38] The representative of the Egyptian god, Apis or Osiris.

[02:44:43] Got it.

[02:44:43] Okay.

[02:44:43] Yeah.

[02:44:44] And then, as surely as the God of Beersheba lives.

[02:44:48] And we were like, what?

[02:44:50] That was another of the golden calves which Jeroboam had set up there.

[02:44:54] Got it.

[02:44:54] So no wonder the tribe of Dan kind of became silent.

[02:44:57] They were probably the most, like, they were one of the furthest away.

[02:45:01] So they probably were one of the first to change away from the traditional idea of Yahweh.

[02:45:06] So with that, we close out chapter 8 and move into chapter 9.

[02:45:10] Okay.

[02:45:10] And we're coming up on the end here.

[02:45:12] Okay.

[02:45:13] Raising up the ruins.

[02:45:14] This is where we get into that whole remnant shit.

[02:45:17] Got it.

[02:45:18] Okay.

[02:45:18] Yep.

[02:45:18] And the final chapter here contains further visions and their explanations.

[02:45:22] Okay.

[02:45:23] So the first part of this chapter contains another vision in which God is represented as declaring

[02:45:29] the final ruin of the kingdom of Israel and the general dispersion of the people.

[02:45:34] And there are just so many questions about this stupid chapter because, like, what?

[02:45:40] Yeah.

[02:45:41] In the final vision, God causes a shrine to collapse on the heads of the worshipers.

[02:45:46] Do you remember that?

[02:45:47] Yes.

[02:45:47] He's like, hey, knock over that fucking pole and I'll take out the rest of the people that

[02:45:52] don't die with my sword.

[02:45:53] Right.

[02:45:54] Right.

[02:46:04] Got it.

[02:46:05] The church building.

[02:46:06] Okay.

[02:46:06] Like, it's both symbolic and very specific.

[02:46:10] Got it.

[02:46:11] Okay.

[02:46:11] In verse 1, there's different interpretations of it, of course.

[02:46:16] One says,

[02:46:28] And we were like, oh, gross.

[02:46:32] Yeah.

[02:46:32] Okay.

[02:46:33] Now, another way it can be read is strike the doorposts that the thresholds may shake and break

[02:46:39] them on the heads of them all and cut them in the head is another way of even reading it.

[02:46:43] Okay.

[02:46:44] I will slay the last of them with the sword.

[02:46:46] Okay.

[02:46:46] So, we've got all these different translations.

[02:46:48] Now, this is a continuation of the preceding prophecy, the altar here being likely one of

[02:46:54] those either at Dan or Beersheba.

[02:46:57] Okay.

[02:46:57] Okay.

[02:46:58] Which that kind of, okay, we get it.

[02:47:00] Got it.

[02:47:01] Okay.

[02:47:01] It's one of the bad places, the high places.

[02:47:03] What he's saying is let all the lintels of all the doors of all those temples be thus cut

[02:47:10] as a sign that the whole shall be thrown down and totally demolished.

[02:47:15] Okay.

[02:47:15] That's one way of reading this.

[02:47:17] Okay.

[02:47:17] Like, we're going to knock down all of these fucking religious places that are being abused

[02:47:21] and used wrong.

[02:47:22] Sure.

[02:47:23] Okay.

[02:47:23] Another way to read this is that this may refer to their heads, the head guys, the chiefs.

[02:47:32] Okay.

[02:47:32] Okay.

[02:47:33] Who were principals in these transgressions because they were the ones leading everybody.

[02:47:37] So he's saying mark their temples, their priests, their prophets, and their princes for destruction.

[02:47:42] Got it.

[02:47:43] So it may have been like a, you know, cross on their forehead kind of thing.

[02:47:47] Like they've got the X, knock them out.

[02:47:50] Right.

[02:47:50] So it's hard to know which way it was going.

[02:47:53] Yeah.

[02:47:53] Yeah.

[02:47:54] Anyway, moving on to verse five.

[02:47:56] Uh-huh.

[02:47:57] The Lord, the Lord Almighty, he touches the earth and it melts and all who live in it mourn.

[02:48:02] The whole land rises like the Nile, then sinks like the river of Egypt.

[02:48:07] And there we go with the river of the Nile raised in 20 feet.

[02:48:11] Miles.

[02:48:12] Miles.

[02:48:13] Oh, sorry.

[02:48:13] My bad.

[02:48:14] But the important part there that we were like, was that he touches it and it melts.

[02:48:20] Yeah.

[02:48:20] The fuck?

[02:48:21] That's weird.

[02:48:21] So, okay.

[02:48:22] So powerful is he that a touch of his hand will melt or dissolve the land and cause all

[02:48:28] its inhabitants to mourn.

[02:48:30] Yeah.

[02:48:30] This is, of course, still a reference to the earthquake previously discussed.

[02:48:35] Oh.

[02:48:35] Okay.

[02:48:36] So.

[02:48:37] Okay.

[02:48:37] Some Israelites might object that this could not happen to them because, you know, they're

[02:48:41] Israelites.

[02:48:42] Yeah.

[02:48:42] And they're like, fuck, I'm one of God's chosen people.

[02:48:44] Right.

[02:48:45] Right.

[02:48:45] Because they are God's chosen people.

[02:48:47] He brought them out of Egypt and he would not send them into a foreign country again.

[02:48:51] Amos points out that past blessings are not a guarantee of present safety.

[02:48:56] God directed the movements of other nations, not just Israel, but when people are sinful,

[02:49:03] he will punish them regardless of their nationality.

[02:49:06] I am curious though, because God says often that he won't do this again to them.

[02:49:10] Right.

[02:49:10] Like it's a thing.

[02:49:11] I know.

[02:49:11] Right.

[02:49:12] And then bad shit keeps happening.

[02:49:13] I know.

[02:49:14] So he's like, I'll never do it again unless then I did it again.

[02:49:17] Right.

[02:49:18] Yeah.

[02:49:18] Right.

[02:49:18] So in this matter, Israelites have no advantage over people of other nationalities such as

[02:49:25] Ethiopians, Philistines, or Syrians.

[02:49:27] God will destroy Israel, but he will preserve the minority within Israel who are faithful to

[02:49:32] him and remain so.

[02:49:35] That's nice of him, I guess.

[02:49:37] Right.

[02:49:37] Through these, he will fulfill his purposes.

[02:49:40] I don't really know what his fucking purposes are.

[02:49:42] They're not yours to know.

[02:49:43] They seem really shitty.

[02:49:44] They're not yours to know.

[02:49:45] I don't know that I want to know.

[02:49:48] I get so tired being the Christian robot.

[02:49:51] It's not yours to know.

[02:49:53] Yeah.

[02:49:53] You are not to ask.

[02:49:55] You cannot understand.

[02:49:56] You are a mere human worm.

[02:49:59] Yes.

[02:49:59] Okay.

[02:50:00] So verse seven reads, are not you Israelites the same to me as the Kushites declares the

[02:50:06] Lord?

[02:50:07] Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt, the Philistines from Kaphtor and the Aramaeans from Kerr?

[02:50:14] And we were like, what the fuck are all these place names again?

[02:50:18] And who and why should we care?

[02:50:21] Like, I have to like look all these things up.

[02:50:24] Okay.

[02:50:24] Yeah.

[02:50:25] Yeah.

[02:50:25] So, okay.

[02:50:26] The Ethiopians.

[02:50:28] Well, okay.

[02:50:28] Our translation reads, are you Israelites the same to me, are not you Israelites the

[02:50:34] same to me as the Kushites?

[02:50:35] But in other translations, it actually reads, are you not the same to me as the Ethiopians?

[02:50:41] Okay.

[02:50:41] So the Ethiopians are the Kushites.

[02:50:44] Got it.

[02:50:44] Okay.

[02:50:45] Okay.

[02:50:45] So that's what that is.

[02:50:47] Sure.

[02:50:47] Kush was the son of Ham mentioned back in Genesis chapter 10.

[02:50:51] Sure.

[02:50:51] And his descendants inhabited parts of Arabia and all this stock was universally despised.

[02:50:58] And I love how we're referring to a man and his descendants as stock.

[02:51:04] His stock was all despised.

[02:51:07] Right.

[02:51:07] Like, his people, his family, his descendants, his, you know, they were despised.

[02:51:14] Yeah.

[02:51:14] But no, his stock.

[02:51:15] Right.

[02:51:15] Okay.

[02:51:16] The Philistines, Philistines, I always get that wrong, from Kaphtor, this was the island

[02:51:22] of Crete off of Greece.

[02:51:24] Okay.

[02:51:25] Yeah.

[02:51:25] And then the Syrians from Kerr is perhaps a city of the Medes, which would be kind of nearish

[02:51:32] Greece-ish.

[02:51:32] Right.

[02:51:33] So, Aram, from whom Syria had its name, was the son of Shem.

[02:51:38] Again, hearkening back to Genesis chapter 10.

[02:51:41] Sure.

[02:51:41] Some of his descendants settled in this city and some in Aram-Nerahem, Syria of the two rivers.

[02:51:49] Okay.

[02:51:50] That's what that meant.

[02:51:51] Yeah.

[02:51:51] Which is to say Mesopotamia.

[02:51:53] And that included the land between the Tigris and the Euphrates.

[02:51:57] Got it.

[02:51:57] Which is the Fertile Crescent.

[02:51:59] Yep.

[02:51:59] Yep.

[02:51:59] I learned that in fifth grade and it never left.

[02:52:02] So, the meaning of this verse is, do not presume on my having brought you out of the

[02:52:07] land of Egypt and the house of bondage into a land flowing with milk and honey.

[02:52:12] Don't presume on that, even though that's what I did or whatever.

[02:52:15] Right.

[02:52:16] I have brought other nations and some of your neighbors who are your enemies from comparatively

[02:52:24] barren countries into fruitful territories, such, for instance, as the Philistines from

[02:52:30] Kathor and the Syrians from Kerr.

[02:52:33] Okay.

[02:52:34] So, that's an interesting way of looking at it.

[02:52:36] He's claiming that he brought other people.

[02:52:38] Yeah.

[02:52:38] You know, which we never really, he never really talks about that.

[02:52:42] Right.

[02:52:42] So.

[02:52:43] That's why this was like a really interesting way of reading that.

[02:52:47] And I'm like, oh, is that what you think?

[02:52:49] Well, that would indicate to me that the Exodus would have been something that would have happened

[02:52:53] in some indeterminate time in the past.

[02:52:56] Right.

[02:52:57] Because you're talking, because basically all history says that the Israelites are from

[02:53:02] the Israel, the place where Israel is.

[02:53:04] Right.

[02:53:05] But maybe, maybe some ancient, ancient time ago, people migrated from this area to that

[02:53:11] area.

[02:53:11] And it was just one of those like stories that got passed down and passed down and became

[02:53:16] lore.

[02:53:16] Right.

[02:53:17] And that sounds more like what this is based on.

[02:53:19] Like a big flood becomes the earth is flooded.

[02:53:23] Right.

[02:53:24] And based on how much they talk about the Nile and things like that, maybe this stuff was

[02:53:28] from like those time frames.

[02:53:30] Right.

[02:53:30] Right.

[02:53:31] When they were like thousands of years before they even started writing Bible stuff, maybe

[02:53:35] there was certain people that lived in that area that ended up migrating to where Israel

[02:53:39] is now.

[02:53:40] Yeah.

[02:53:40] And, you know, these flood stories and migration stories all kind of came with this package deal

[02:53:45] of moving from there to here.

[02:53:46] Right.

[02:53:47] You know?

[02:53:47] Well, it kind of strikes me similarly, like these were originally oral tales.

[02:53:54] Right.

[02:53:54] Well, and that's right.

[02:53:55] They weren't written down until like way later.

[02:53:58] Yeah.

[02:53:58] Even.

[02:53:59] And when they were written down as like thousands of years ago.

[02:54:02] Right.

[02:54:02] Sure.

[02:54:02] So kind of crazy.

[02:54:04] And it kind of reminds me of like Beowulf and how that was also like, that's one of the

[02:54:11] earliest forms of written literature.

[02:54:14] Yeah.

[02:54:14] Right.

[02:54:14] And it was originally, of course, an oral tale.

[02:54:20] And we are only reading one version of that story.

[02:54:23] Right.

[02:54:24] Right.

[02:54:24] And so obviously this will have had many different oral versions of the story.

[02:54:31] Oh, for sure.

[02:54:31] And we know that there are actually.

[02:54:32] Right.

[02:54:32] Which is what makes it so funny that Christians are like hardcore.

[02:54:37] This is it.

[02:54:38] Yeah.

[02:54:39] Right.

[02:54:39] And not only this one, but the King James version, which was printed in the 1500s.

[02:54:45] And it's probably the most incorrect version of all the versions.

[02:54:48] Like, I'm sorry that it sounds really fancy with its Shakespearean stuff.

[02:54:53] Yeah.

[02:54:53] But you don't even like King James or Shakespeare.

[02:54:57] Yeah.

[02:54:58] Like if you did even the least bit of like history digging.

[02:55:01] Right.

[02:55:01] You'd be like, wait, what?

[02:55:02] Why am I?

[02:55:03] What are we doing here?

[02:55:04] Why am I sucking the dick of this guy?

[02:55:06] Hold on.

[02:55:06] Hold on a sec.

[02:55:07] Like that one confounds me, honestly.

[02:55:10] Yeah.

[02:55:11] All right.

[02:55:11] So Amos gives a final picture of the certain judgment that is to fall on the sinful Israelites

[02:55:17] as no pebble or other worthless matter falls through a sieve.

[02:55:22] So no sinner will escape God's judgment.

[02:55:25] Yeah.

[02:55:25] If people think that because they are Israelites that they will not experience God's judgment,

[02:55:30] they are only deceiving themselves.

[02:55:32] All right.

[02:55:33] We are cruising into the last bit here.

[02:55:35] All right.

[02:55:36] Okay.

[02:55:36] So we're getting into the restoration of Israel to blessing and abundance.

[02:55:41] And there's some stuff in here that's going to blow your fucking mind.

[02:55:45] Okay.

[02:55:45] Right?

[02:55:45] Yeah.

[02:55:46] So the prophet then passes to the great blessedness of the people of God under the gospel dispensation.

[02:55:52] Excuse you.

[02:55:54] Gospel.

[02:55:54] That's New Testament.

[02:55:55] I'm sorry.

[02:55:56] What the fuck?

[02:55:57] Yeah.

[02:55:57] So we'll talk about that.

[02:55:59] Okay.

[02:55:59] All right.

[02:56:00] So we're going to talk about the restoring of the house of David to Israel.

[02:56:05] Okay.

[02:56:05] Now, beyond judgment, Amos sees God's forgiveness.

[02:56:09] Captivity in a foreign land will bring to an end the old division between the northern state of Israel and the southern state of Judah.

[02:56:18] God will bring the reunited people back into their land.

[02:56:23] Never happened.

[02:56:24] But okay.

[02:56:25] All right.

[02:56:25] Oh, hold on.

[02:56:26] I'm not there yet.

[02:56:27] Yeah.

[02:56:27] Where they will live in security and prosperity under the rule of the restored Davidic dynasty.

[02:56:35] Israel's rule will extend over other nations here represented by Edom.

[02:56:41] Sure.

[02:56:41] So.

[02:56:41] And this is one of those prophecies that is yet to be.

[02:56:45] Yet to be fulfilled.

[02:56:47] Yeah.

[02:56:47] So it's one of those that's very prominent.

[02:56:49] Oh, it's so magic.

[02:56:51] Christianity and Judaism and all of this.

[02:56:53] Oh, it's beautiful magic.

[02:56:55] Right.

[02:56:55] Very magic.

[02:56:56] Yeah.

[02:56:56] Okay.

[02:56:56] Because it's it's it's going to happen.

[02:56:59] You guys.

[02:56:59] It's proof.

[02:57:00] It's like a lot of what the whole fucking New Testament.

[02:57:02] Yeah.

[02:57:03] Christianity is based on.

[02:57:04] It's a very like.

[02:57:06] Have you ever seen those rock piles where like there's a giant rock resting on a smaller rock resting on an even smaller rock?

[02:57:15] And then like, you know, these are like serene balances or something.

[02:57:20] And then at the very bottom, it's all sitting on this teeny tiny pebble.

[02:57:23] Right.

[02:57:24] Right.

[02:57:24] And it's balanced just so.

[02:57:25] And if you cough crooked, it falls.

[02:57:27] Yeah.

[02:57:27] That's what this is.

[02:57:28] Yeah.

[02:57:29] Yeah.

[02:57:29] This is that fucking pebble.

[02:57:31] Okay.

[02:57:32] So verses 11 and 12 read.

[02:57:34] In that day, I will restore David's fallen shelter.

[02:57:37] I will repair its broken walls and restore its ruins and will rebuild it as it used to be so that they may possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations that bear my name, declares the Lord who will do these things.

[02:57:51] He will.

[02:57:51] Okay.

[02:57:52] So like I said, Israel's rule will extend over other nations here represented by the word Edom.

[02:57:58] We just decided that.

[02:57:59] Got it.

[02:58:00] Yeah.

[02:58:00] So Edom is rendered mankind in the Septuagint.

[02:58:04] Oh, okay.

[02:58:05] Okay.

[02:58:05] So I don't know why and who decided that sometimes when we say Edom, we don't actually mean the Edomites.

[02:58:13] We actually mean mankind.

[02:58:15] Got it.

[02:58:15] Yeah.

[02:58:16] The Greeks did, I guess.

[02:58:18] Okay.

[02:58:18] And sometimes we go with that.

[02:58:20] Sure.

[02:58:20] Okay.

[02:58:20] So we know that the kingdom of Israel fell first and that the kingdom of Judah continued long after enjoying prosperity and comfort under Hezekiah and Josiah.

[02:58:31] The remnant of the Israelites that were left by the Assyrians became united to the kingdom of Judah.

[02:58:38] But this comparatively short prosperity and respite previously to the Babylonish captivity could not be that, quote, restored Davidic dynasty that was referred to.

[02:58:49] Could not.

[02:58:50] That's why I said could not.

[02:58:51] No, I know.

[02:58:51] I was just like, why though?

[02:58:53] Because the Davidic dynasty was not restored.

[02:58:57] Okay.

[02:58:58] Okay.

[02:58:58] All right.

[02:58:58] Yeah.

[02:58:59] Like it cannot because it was not.

[02:59:01] Got it.

[02:59:02] Okay.

[02:59:02] And it could also not be the closing up of the breaches because the land was still split.

[02:59:09] Okay.

[02:59:09] Judah and Israel were still not together.

[02:59:11] Got it.

[02:59:11] And since it is acknowledged that nothing of the sort has taken place since.

[02:59:17] Yeah.

[02:59:17] Consequently, getting into what you were just saying.

[02:59:20] Yeah.

[02:59:20] Yeah.

[02:59:20] Most Christians agree that the prophecy remains to be filled in the time to come, which is to say Christians take this exact text as solid proof that the Jews will eventually be converted and restored.

[02:59:37] Hmm.

[02:59:39] Converted to Christianity.

[02:59:41] Christianity.

[02:59:43] And this is why we have this love-hate relationship with Israel right now.

[02:59:46] And I had to write under this, the very arrogance is fucking astounding.

[02:59:53] Yeah.

[02:59:53] Yeah.

[02:59:54] I, because I'm, you know, using a Christian source alongside of a Jewish source as I'm researching.

[03:00:01] Right.

[03:00:01] And the Christian source is like, and this is a fact that this will happen.

[03:00:04] And I was just like, I'm sorry.

[03:00:07] What?

[03:00:08] Is it now?

[03:00:08] I have never heard Jewish people say, oh yeah, totally.

[03:00:12] We're totally going to be converted at some point.

[03:00:15] Right.

[03:00:15] Yeah.

[03:00:15] I'm looking forward to the day when I take Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

[03:00:19] What?

[03:00:20] Like, I'm just like, do the Jewish people know this?

[03:00:23] Did we talk to them about this?

[03:00:24] What do they think about this?

[03:00:26] Like, I literally, if you know any Jewish people, please ask them to like, call in.

[03:00:31] If you're a Jewish person listening, please comment.

[03:00:34] Let me know.

[03:00:35] Like, are you aware of this?

[03:00:36] How do you feel about this?

[03:00:38] Right.

[03:00:38] I was not aware that Jewish people were like eagerly waiting with bated breath for the coming of Jesus Christ.

[03:00:44] Right.

[03:00:44] All right.

[03:00:45] So moving on to verse 13.

[03:00:47] The days are coming, declares the Lord, when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman and the planter by the one treading grapes.

[03:00:54] New wine will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills and will bring my people Israel back from exile.

[03:00:59] And we were like, what the fuck are you even talking about?

[03:01:02] Right.

[03:01:03] Makes no goddamn sense.

[03:01:04] Like you said, don't fear the reaper.

[03:01:05] Yeah.

[03:01:06] Yeah.

[03:01:06] So here's what it is.

[03:01:07] The land will become so motherfucking productive that grain will grow faster than the farmers can even harvest it.

[03:01:13] Okay.

[03:01:14] The reaper will not be able to finish his work before the next planting is due.

[03:01:18] Oh.

[03:01:19] So Amos is predicting great fertility in the land, abundance in the crops, and regularity of the seasons, indicating that the plowman, sower, grape gatherer, and wine press operator will not only succeed each other, but will have parts of these operations going on at the same time.

[03:01:38] I see.

[03:01:39] Cities will be rebuilt and the people will live in happiness and safety.

[03:01:43] Sounds so wonderful.

[03:01:44] It's milk and honey, baby.

[03:01:46] Yeah, right?

[03:01:46] All right.

[03:01:47] Finishing up.

[03:01:48] Verse 14.

[03:01:49] They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.

[03:01:51] They will plant vineyards and drink their wine.

[03:01:53] They will make gardens and eat their fruit.

[03:01:55] Which, if you read Voltaire's Candide, there's a bit about gardens in there, and if you know, you know.

[03:02:05] Okay.

[03:02:06] Anyway, when threatened with great evils, Amos chapter 5, verse 11, it said, they shall plant pleasant vineyards, but shall not drink the wine of them.

[03:02:16] So they would be planting and planting and planting, but not be able to, like, appreciate the fruit of their labor.

[03:02:23] Right.

[03:02:23] But that was back then.

[03:02:25] Now, in this restoration that's going to happen, they will be laboring for themselves rather than for others, and they will be able to enjoy it.

[03:02:34] And that's just like a mirror of where they were before to where they will be in this day when we convert the Jews to Christianity.

[03:02:43] I see.

[03:02:44] The end.

[03:02:44] Awesome.

[03:02:45] Yeah.

[03:02:45] God's going to kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, and then everything will be wonderful.

[03:02:49] But Jesus, though.

[03:02:50] Yeah, exactly.

[03:02:51] Yeah.

[03:02:52] So it's all going to be solved.

[03:02:53] Yeah.

[03:02:54] I'm very excited.

[03:02:55] I really want to know if the Jews are aware of this plan.

[03:02:58] Right?

[03:02:58] Yeah.

[03:02:59] Like, literally, I've never heard.

[03:03:00] Have you ever heard of this?

[03:03:01] Yeah.

[03:03:02] That Jews are going to be converted to Christianity?

[03:03:04] Well, yeah.

[03:03:05] All Christians think that.

[03:03:06] I didn't know that.

[03:03:07] I mean, like, at some base level, yeah.

[03:03:10] Like, they're either going to be converted or they're part of the heathens that are going to go, you know, to hell.

[03:03:14] No, I always heard that they are the exception.

[03:03:16] They're God's chosen people and God will work that out somehow.

[03:03:19] That's what my mom says.

[03:03:20] Oh, yeah.

[03:03:21] They're God's chosen people.

[03:03:22] But they better fucking convert or they're fucking roasting like the rest of us.

[03:03:26] I never heard that part of the sentence.

[03:03:27] Oh.

[03:03:28] I only ever got.

[03:03:29] Yeah.

[03:03:30] That part's usually conveniently left out.

[03:03:32] Okay.

[03:03:33] So God's chosen people are not actually chosen unless they convert.

[03:03:37] No, they're chosen.

[03:03:38] All right.

[03:03:38] They're chosen.

[03:03:39] They're chosen to make a choice.

[03:03:40] And if they don't make the right choice, they're fucked.

[03:03:42] I don't know if I agree with you on that.

[03:03:45] I don't know.

[03:03:46] I don't know.

[03:03:46] I want to hear from some Jewish people.

[03:03:49] I'm like lit up over this.

[03:03:50] Well, the Jewish people wouldn't be talking about this.

[03:03:51] This is Christians talking about this.

[03:03:53] I know, but this is their book.

[03:03:54] So I want to hear from them.

[03:03:55] I don't give a fuck about the Christians.

[03:03:56] They don't know or care what a Christian wants them to do.

[03:03:59] But I want to know, like, are you aware of this plan and how do you feel about it?

[03:04:03] Okay.

[03:04:03] Okay.

[03:04:03] That's all.

[03:04:04] That's fair.

[03:04:04] That's fair.

[03:04:04] All right.

[03:04:05] Well, anyway, that was our Q&A for chapters six through nine of Amos.

[03:04:10] And we will be back probably tomorrow with the wrap up.

[03:04:18] Yeah.

[03:04:18] The one you were so excited about earlier.

[03:04:20] Yeah.

[03:04:20] Sorry.

[03:04:21] That one.

[03:04:21] That was like five hours ago.

[03:04:22] Right.

[03:04:23] Right.

[03:04:23] And then after that, we will have our...

[03:04:27] You're always wrong.

[03:04:29] Okay.

[03:04:29] Along with a pop quiz.

[03:04:30] Yeah.

[03:04:30] Yeah.

[03:04:31] And then I will get the weekly replay up and then we'll be back starting another book

[03:04:37] after that.

[03:04:38] Which I forget already.

[03:04:39] It was Obadiah, one chapter.

[03:04:42] Yeah.

[03:04:42] And so we might have like our final Jewish folklore thrown in there for good measure.

[03:04:48] We say that sometimes, but it doesn't...

[03:04:50] I know.

[03:04:50] We're going to...

[03:04:51] We'll do things.

[03:04:52] We'll do some things.

[03:04:53] We're going to record stuff.

[03:04:54] And we are going to record stuff.

[03:04:56] Yeah.

[03:04:56] Yes.

[03:04:56] That much we know.

[03:04:57] All right.

[03:04:58] Very professional.

[03:04:59] Thanks, guys.

[03:05:00] Bye.

[03:05:06] Bye.

[03:05:06] Wife.

[03:05:07] Guess what we're doing today.

[03:05:09] Well, we've finished Amos.

[03:05:11] We did.

[03:05:12] And we did our regular run of things.

[03:05:15] So that must mean that today we're getting ready to do our...

[03:05:19] Q&A.

[03:05:21] Not on Saturday.

[03:05:22] Nope.

[03:05:23] It's really the wrap up of the whole book of Amos.

[03:05:28] You were looking at me like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[03:05:32] And the truth is nobody knows.

[03:05:33] I mean, yesterday you called the Q&A the wrap-up.

[03:05:37] I know.

[03:05:37] And now today you called the wrap-up the Q&A.

[03:05:39] It seems right and fitting.

[03:05:41] Yeah, sure.

[03:05:42] I see nothing wrong here.

[03:05:43] Yeah.

[03:05:43] Carry on.

[03:05:44] So we're doing our wrap-up for Amos.

[03:05:46] Yes.

[03:05:46] Yes.

[03:05:47] Because we finished that fucker.

[03:05:48] We did.

[03:05:49] We did.

[03:05:49] We fucked him hard.

[03:05:50] You got some good stuff for us today?

[03:05:53] Sure.

[03:05:54] That, again, overwhelming.

[03:05:56] Overwhelming with the amount of enthusiasm there.

[03:05:58] I have some very interesting information, actually.

[03:06:01] Great.

[03:06:02] I can't wait.

[03:06:03] Not all of it is about Amos.

[03:06:05] Oh, okay.

[03:06:06] Okay.

[03:06:06] All right.

[03:06:06] You ready to do this?

[03:06:07] Sure.

[03:06:08] Let's do it.

[03:06:08] Okie dokie.

[03:06:14] All right.

[03:06:15] So we are wrapping up this whole book of Amos.

[03:06:19] We are.

[03:06:20] This entire nine chapters that we did.

[03:06:22] Yeah.

[03:06:22] Yeah.

[03:06:23] I have to tell you, there was not a lot about this, dude.

[03:06:25] Or about the book itself.

[03:06:27] I mean, it was pretty unremarkable, right?

[03:06:31] That's exactly.

[03:06:32] Yes.

[03:06:33] Yes.

[03:06:33] There was more anger from God.

[03:06:39] But that's about the most unique thing I can say about it, right?

[03:06:42] It's not really anything.

[03:06:44] Nothing really stands out or apart from other things in the Bible.

[03:06:48] So.

[03:06:48] I'm so glad to hear you say that.

[03:06:50] Yeah.

[03:06:50] He was extremely unremarkable, as was the book as a whole.

[03:06:54] Yeah.

[03:06:55] Okay.

[03:06:55] I would agree with that.

[03:06:56] Good.

[03:06:56] I would agree with that.

[03:06:56] So according to the Bible, Amos was an older contemporary of Hosea and Isaiah.

[03:07:03] Sure.

[03:07:03] He was running around the same time those dudes were.

[03:07:06] Right.

[03:07:06] And so he was active around 760 to 750 BCE.

[03:07:12] And that was during the reign of Jeroboam of Samaria, which was northern Israel.

[03:07:18] Okay.

[03:07:18] While Uzziah was king of Judah.

[03:07:21] Got it.

[03:07:21] Okay.

[03:07:22] Yeah.

[03:07:22] And we're going to come back to that time period in a minute.

[03:07:25] Okay.

[03:07:26] Now, during this time, Israel was prospering.

[03:07:29] Was doing so well.

[03:07:31] Well, like, like Ziegler said in Moulin Rouge, everything's going so well.

[03:07:38] Yeah.

[03:07:38] Yeah.

[03:07:38] Yeah.

[03:07:39] After years of turmoil, the Israelites were enjoying good political standing and their

[03:07:44] relationship with the Phoenicians was finally proving successful.

[03:07:49] Yeah.

[03:07:49] Yeah.

[03:07:49] Yay.

[03:07:50] They were learning their ABCs and whatnot.

[03:07:52] Along with wealth and luxury, the Israelites were turning their ways to the gods of the Canaanites.

[03:07:59] Womp.

[03:07:59] Womp.

[03:08:00] Right.

[03:08:00] Yeah.

[03:08:01] I hate when they do that.

[03:08:03] That's always a bad day for them.

[03:08:05] God especially hates that.

[03:08:07] Yeah.

[03:08:07] So.

[03:08:08] Moral standards were forgotten and the commandments were being ignored and they were fucking all

[03:08:12] over the place.

[03:08:13] Left and right.

[03:08:14] High altars, high places, low places.

[03:08:17] They got friends everywhere.

[03:08:19] Yeah.

[03:08:19] Okay.

[03:08:20] Yeah.

[03:08:20] On your neighbor's bathroom rug, you know.

[03:08:24] Right.

[03:08:25] You know, it strikes me that, you know, they're talking about how they were prosperous and they

[03:08:30] were doing well.

[03:08:31] Right.

[03:08:32] And then they transition here into like the apologist.

[03:08:37] Right.

[03:08:37] They transition, but they weren't worshiping God correctly.

[03:08:40] Right.

[03:08:40] Yeah.

[03:08:40] That's kind of the sentiment.

[03:08:42] Right.

[03:08:42] It couldn't possibly be that they're doing well.

[03:08:45] They're finally becoming something of a noticeable state because they're transacting well.

[03:08:52] They've got money.

[03:08:53] They've got wealth.

[03:08:54] They've got things.

[03:08:54] They were being rewarded for finally, you know, having stuck with God all these years.

[03:08:59] Sometimes it's not always best to be noticed.

[03:09:02] Yeah.

[03:09:02] You know, like these other places that are like, hey, we could get some quick cash over

[03:09:06] there.

[03:09:07] You know, like all we got to do is conquer them.

[03:09:09] Yeah.

[03:09:09] You know, like that.

[03:09:10] That's to me.

[03:09:11] That's the reasoning behind what is happening.

[03:09:14] Yeah.

[03:09:14] It's geopolitical.

[03:09:15] Right.

[03:09:15] It's not about a God.

[03:09:17] It just happens to be that people in times of wealth and in times of prosperity always

[03:09:25] find bad things.

[03:09:29] Let me rephrase that.

[03:09:30] People always find bad things.

[03:09:31] It doesn't matter what time frame it is.

[03:09:34] Things are going bad.

[03:09:35] Obviously, something's causing it.

[03:09:37] If things are going good, the thing that's going to happen that's going to go bad later

[03:09:41] is caused by the people that were doing the things wrong the good way.

[03:09:44] Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

[03:09:46] Right.

[03:09:46] There's never you can't.

[03:09:47] No one can ever be fucking happy.

[03:09:49] Exactly.

[03:09:50] Yeah.

[03:09:51] And so it's just it's it's really simple explaining away as to why they got conquered.

[03:10:00] Right.

[03:10:01] Yeah.

[03:10:01] Like they don't they're not taking into account the actual reasons.

[03:10:04] They just like God, God, God did it.

[03:10:07] Everything's God.

[03:10:08] It makes it easier.

[03:10:09] It definitely does.

[03:10:10] Don't have to think things through.

[03:10:11] Right.

[03:10:11] So Amos is said to have lived in the kingdom of Judah, but preached in the northern kingdom

[03:10:17] of Israel with themes of social justice, God's omnipotence and divine judgment.

[03:10:23] Those became staples of his prophecy.

[03:10:26] Got it.

[03:10:27] OK.

[03:10:27] According to the book, subs.

[03:10:29] Sorry.

[03:10:29] Supercription.

[03:10:31] That first verse.

[03:10:32] Yeah.

[03:10:32] Where it was like in the days of blah, blah, blah.

[03:10:35] This be Amos.

[03:10:36] Right.

[03:10:37] He was from Tekoa, a town in Judah, south of Jerusalem.

[03:10:41] But remember, there was a question about that given kind of where he went.

[03:10:46] And the tense of one of the verbs in the final bout between him and Amaziah, where Amaziah

[03:10:57] was, don't be selling your shit here.

[03:10:59] Go back to Judah.

[03:11:00] Yeah.

[03:11:00] And he's like, but my message is for you.

[03:11:02] And then there was a question about whether he left or whether he ran away or whether he

[03:11:08] returned home or not.

[03:11:10] And so there was a question about which Tekoa he was from.

[03:11:15] Right.

[03:11:15] So anyway, but his prophetic mission was in the Northern Kingdom.

[03:11:21] OK.

[03:11:21] Got it.

[03:11:22] So that's where he was selling his wares.

[03:11:25] Sure.

[03:11:25] Grifting and shouting.

[03:11:27] Yeah.

[03:11:27] He is called a quote unquote shepherd and a quote unquote dresser of sycamore trees.

[03:11:34] Yes.

[03:11:35] But the book's literary qualities suggest a man who was more than merely a poor farmer.

[03:11:41] Farmer boy, fetch me that Bible.

[03:11:44] Amos did come from a family of prophets, but was not a prophet himself.

[03:11:49] So, yeah, I didn't catch that.

[03:11:51] But he was, though.

[03:11:52] Well, he claimed not to be a prophet because he was not picked to profit to everybody across

[03:12:02] the board.

[03:12:02] He had a specific message for a specific time for specific for for specific people.

[03:12:08] This sounds OK.

[03:12:11] He's like, wouldn't me?

[03:12:12] No, I just it just like I'm not a real prophet.

[03:12:16] I'm I'm a true prophet.

[03:12:18] You know, like it's like one of those make prophets great again thing.

[03:12:22] Yeah.

[03:12:23] Yeah.

[03:12:23] Whatever.

[03:12:23] Yeah.

[03:12:24] No, I totally.

[03:12:24] Yeah.

[03:12:24] Yeah.

[03:12:25] I don't.

[03:12:26] He's like this is one of the minor prophets in the Bible.

[03:12:29] So clearly we think of him as a prophet.

[03:12:31] But somehow, like when he was busted by Amaziah, he's like totally not a prophet.

[03:12:36] Yo, I'm just I'm just over.

[03:12:38] I'm a farmer.

[03:12:39] Probably because there was some sort of legalistic stipulation that you had to have

[03:12:42] or legalistic denotation that you had to have in order to be a certificate or a license

[03:12:49] and he forgot to get that checked out.

[03:12:52] Yeah.

[03:12:52] Kind of like how you got to get a passport if you're going to travel.

[03:12:56] Yeah.

[03:12:56] Or you got to get like a driver's license if you're going to buy a car.

[03:12:59] Right.

[03:13:00] Kind of thing.

[03:13:01] So from his writings, though, it's assumed he was an educated man who was also in tune

[03:13:05] with the oppression of his people.

[03:13:08] Sure.

[03:13:08] And in recent years, scholars have grown more skeptical of the Book of Amos's presentation

[03:13:13] of Amos's biography and background.

[03:13:17] OK.

[03:13:17] Yeah.

[03:13:18] All right.

[03:13:18] So the Book of Amos is known for its distinct sinister tone, as you suggested at the beginning.

[03:13:24] Right.

[03:13:24] And his violent portrayal of God.

[03:13:28] Right.

[03:13:28] You know, I'm going to kill him.

[03:13:30] Yeah.

[03:13:31] The more violent portrayal.

[03:13:33] Yeah.

[03:13:33] I mean, it's not like God.

[03:13:34] The specific.

[03:13:35] Sure.

[03:13:36] Yeah.

[03:13:36] Yeah.

[03:13:37] I mean, God was specifically violent a lot before this.

[03:13:40] But that.

[03:13:41] OK.

[03:13:41] So before it seemed like the prophecies were like, this will happen to these people.

[03:13:47] This was he looked straight in Amaziah's face and said, your wife is going to be a prostitute

[03:13:54] and your children are going to get stabbed.

[03:13:56] And so are you.

[03:13:58] Yeah.

[03:13:58] Boom.

[03:13:59] Dead.

[03:14:00] Yeah.

[03:14:00] And don't forget, this book came before a lot of what we've already read.

[03:14:04] But God was specifically targeting, you know, like who was the guy that had the prostitute

[03:14:10] for those that Hosea that had the prostitute for the wife and all that, you know, I couldn't

[03:14:14] possibly.

[03:14:14] I'm pretty sure it was Hosea.

[03:14:15] But anyway, he had the prostitute wife and the kids that were named shitty things or whatever.

[03:14:23] Loser and butt face.

[03:14:25] Basically.

[03:14:25] Yeah.

[03:14:26] So, I mean, it's not that God hasn't specifically targeted people before.

[03:14:29] He definitely has.

[03:14:32] I think it was just the the amount of and the level of anger that he had in this book.

[03:14:39] All right.

[03:14:40] Like that.

[03:14:40] That seemed like what it was to me more than anything.

[03:14:43] OK.

[03:14:44] I mean, we talked about some really horrendous things multiple times.

[03:14:48] Yeah.

[03:14:49] And and that's that that amount of anger, that amount of destruction was a next level

[03:14:56] type of, you know, having it that many times throughout the book was was a lot.

[03:15:02] Right.

[03:15:02] For nine chapters.

[03:15:03] So.

[03:15:04] No, I hear you.

[03:15:06] Amos announced most, if not all of his message in Bethel where, you know, he was told to fuck

[03:15:12] off.

[03:15:12] Right.

[03:15:13] And Bethel, of course, was an important religious and commercial center near Israel's southern

[03:15:20] border.

[03:15:21] OK.

[03:15:22] And, you know, that's because he was actually from the south, Judah.

[03:15:26] Got it.

[03:15:27] So.

[03:15:27] Yeah.

[03:15:28] He gained the attention of his audience by first announcing God's judgment on Israel's neighbors.

[03:15:34] He's like, I mean, don't those guys over there totally suck?

[03:15:38] And like everybody loves a gossip.

[03:15:40] And so they started gathering around and they were like, totally.

[03:15:42] I know.

[03:15:43] Right.

[03:15:43] I mean, fuck those guys.

[03:15:45] Well, it's it.

[03:15:45] That's a that's a great.

[03:15:47] It's a salesman tactic.

[03:15:48] Yeah.

[03:15:48] You get people to buy in by agreeing with this, that and the other.

[03:15:51] And then once you got them on the hook, you know, you're like, and we suck, too.

[03:15:54] Right.

[03:15:55] That's when you throw it out.

[03:15:57] Yeah.

[03:15:58] Unless you're Fox News and then you just keep going on with that.

[03:16:02] And they suck and they suck and they suck and they suck and they suck.

[03:16:05] Right.

[03:16:05] Yeah.

[03:16:06] Right.

[03:16:06] This news, no doubt, pleased his listeners.

[03:16:09] But this was just part of his build up to the climax, which announced God's judgment on Israel, like you just said.

[03:16:15] Sure.

[03:16:16] So I had a question.

[03:16:18] What happened to Amaziah?

[03:16:20] And I was like, I wonder if he is spoken of elsewhere in the Bible.

[03:16:24] We're going to read about like what happened to him.

[03:16:26] Did he really die or whatever?

[03:16:28] Sounds familiar.

[03:16:29] Like we've talked about it before.

[03:16:30] It sounds like it.

[03:16:31] But no, we didn't.

[03:16:33] So the Bible does not record a specific fulfillment of the prophecy.

[03:16:37] You know, you're going to fucking die.

[03:16:39] Right.

[03:16:40] Or any further details about Amaziah's fate.

[03:16:43] However, the broader historical context suggests that Amos's predictions did come to pass during the Assyrian conquest of Israel in 722 BCE.

[03:16:54] Okay.

[03:16:55] And that's when the northern kingdom of Israel was destroyed and its leaders, including priests like Amaziah, were likely killed, exiled, or enslaved.

[03:17:05] So again, this sounds like it was injected probably after that happened.

[03:17:10] Yeah.

[03:17:10] Someone was like, hey, that fucking priest was kind of a dick.

[03:17:14] Let's just.

[03:17:14] Let's use his name.

[03:17:15] Yeah.

[03:17:15] Let's use his name.

[03:17:16] Yeah.

[03:17:17] Yeah.

[03:17:17] And let's just put it like right here where it doesn't belong in the middle of this chapter.

[03:17:21] Right.

[03:17:21] Boom.

[03:17:21] Yeah.

[03:17:21] Done.

[03:17:22] Yeah.

[03:17:23] The population at that time was deported to Assyrian territories, fulfilling the prophet, the prophecy of exile.

[03:17:29] So, you know, it all came to pass or whatever.

[03:17:32] Yeah.

[03:17:33] Sure.

[03:17:33] Whatever.

[03:17:34] Like I'm so jaded over this.

[03:17:35] Yeah.

[03:17:36] I don't.

[03:17:36] There's not.

[03:17:37] The prophecies in the Bible.

[03:17:39] And I know people are like, well, they definitely happen.

[03:17:43] Like, okay.

[03:17:44] Okay.

[03:17:45] So, yes, maybe some of them did happen.

[03:17:48] But we can't for certain, and especially based on the research that's been done on the Bible and based on what we've read about the time frames and when people wrote things and how many people wrote things and when things got injected back into certain books.

[03:18:01] Mm-hmm.

[03:18:02] There's no fucking way to know when any of this was written, first of all.

[03:18:07] In comparison to when the events might or might not have happened.

[03:18:10] Right.

[03:18:10] And the most logical reasoning that you can come up with is that they were put in after they happened.

[03:18:15] Yeah.

[03:18:15] Either that or that there was more than one story and the one that, you know, foretold the future is the one that, like, got stapled.

[03:18:26] But generally, the simplest explanation is usually true.

[03:18:28] Yeah.

[03:18:29] Right?

[03:18:29] Like, and I'm not saying that that's 100% always the case.

[03:18:31] But, like, it makes a lot of sense if you're writing the book about a God that you want to be correct that people would be like, hey, let's make our God correct here.

[03:18:40] You know?

[03:18:40] I think that also mixed with the prognostication that comes with paying attention and knowing the politics of the time.

[03:18:47] Sure.

[03:18:47] Which we talked about before during that other.

[03:18:50] Yeah.

[03:18:50] Some of the prophecies were very generalized.

[03:18:52] Like, this warring faction is going to come in and kill us, right?

[03:18:56] Yeah.

[03:18:56] Those things were on the horizon.

[03:18:58] They were known things that were probably going to happen because there was tensions.

[03:19:03] Right.

[03:19:03] Right.

[03:19:04] So, I mean, they weren't hard prophecies.

[03:19:06] Right.

[03:19:07] So, there is no direct archaeological or historical evidence of Amos as an individual prophet, of course.

[03:19:14] Because I was like, did this dude really exist?

[03:19:16] Do we have any proof whatsoever?

[03:19:18] Well, that's interesting because early on when we first started this book, you said that the consensus was that people think that he's a real person.

[03:19:25] He's a real person or somebody like him.

[03:19:28] Okay.

[03:19:29] Like, that's the consensus.

[03:19:29] But I guess that's my problem, right?

[03:19:31] I take a little bit of issue with the fact that we don't have any historical record of this person.

[03:19:38] And yet, the consensus is that there was a real person named Amos, possibly.

[03:19:45] Right.

[03:19:45] But that's what we go with, right?

[03:19:48] Sure.

[03:19:48] Why?

[03:19:49] Why?

[03:19:49] Why do we go with that?

[03:19:50] Because it's a journal entry that says so.

[03:19:54] I don't know.

[03:19:55] No, I get it, right?

[03:19:56] But, I mean, especially with the things that are questionable about when things were written, how they were written, who actually wrote them, I don't understand why we feel obligated to say, yeah, there probably was NamUs.

[03:20:10] Because, you know what?

[03:20:11] There probably was a lot of things that we don't know about.

[03:20:14] But it doesn't mean I'm going to say they're true because I don't know if they're fucking true.

[03:20:18] No, it's, yeah, you're right.

[03:20:19] You're totally right.

[03:20:21] As you said, like many figures in the Hebrew Bible, Amos' existence relies on the textual traditions preserved in the Bible itself.

[03:20:31] Sure.

[03:20:31] So, it's true because the Bible says it's true.

[03:20:34] Right.

[03:20:34] And that's just not a valid source for me.

[03:20:37] However, there are contextual clues and evidence that support the historical setting and themes of the Book of Amos.

[03:20:45] Sure.

[03:20:45] Lending credibility to the time period and environment in which he is said to have lived and preached.

[03:20:52] That's not the same thing.

[03:20:53] Right.

[03:20:53] But I appreciate you trying to pretend that it is.

[03:20:56] Yeah.

[03:20:57] You know?

[03:20:58] These things happened is not the same thing as that man lived and wrote these words.

[03:21:02] Well, and it could have very well have been, you know, written during that time frame that it says it's written during.

[03:21:08] Mm-hmm.

[03:21:09] But it could have just been a story that somebody wrote about some fictional, you know, prophet that they wanted to, you know, tell a story about.

[03:21:16] Like, hey, I think this would be a pretty cool thing to have happened and we need to tell those people what's what.

[03:21:20] Yeah.

[03:21:21] And there's no way to know.

[03:21:23] Right?

[03:21:24] And if we don't know, why are we saying that it's true?

[03:21:28] Right.

[03:21:28] Yeah.

[03:21:28] I don't know.

[03:21:30] That's all.

[03:21:30] Because religion.

[03:21:32] No, I know.

[03:21:32] I know why.

[03:21:34] I know the answer.

[03:21:35] I just don't agree with the answer.

[03:21:37] Well, here is some indirect evidence supporting Amos's context, not his existence, his context.

[03:21:46] Okay?

[03:21:47] Yeah.

[03:21:47] Number one is historical accuracy of the time period.

[03:21:51] The book of Amos is set during the reigns of Uzziah, king of Judah, which was circa 783 to 742 BCE, and Jeroboam, king of Israel, which was circa 786 to 746 BCE.

[03:22:11] Okay.

[03:22:12] This was a period of relative peace and prosperity for the northern kingdom of Israel, which does align with the societal injustices that Amos critiques, such as the exploitation of the poor by the wealthy elite.

[03:22:25] But archaeological discoveries, such as the wealth disparity evident in 8th century BCE ruins in Israel, by which we mean Samaria and other surrounding cities, do match Amos's descriptions of luxurious living juxtaposed with oppression.

[03:22:43] Got it.

[03:22:43] So that lines up.

[03:22:45] Okay.

[03:22:46] Number two is Bethel as a religious center.

[03:22:49] Bethel, where Amos confronted Amaziah, or where I think Amaziah confronted Amos is what it should read, was a known religious hub in the northern kingdom.

[03:23:01] Now, that doesn't mean anything.

[03:23:03] It was a known religious hub.

[03:23:04] Therefore, it makes sense to place a story there.

[03:23:07] Yes.

[03:23:08] Duh.

[03:23:08] Right.

[03:23:09] Excavations at Bethel have revealed evidence of cultic activity consistent with the idolatrous worship that Amos denounced.

[03:23:18] Cultic activity could also be, you know, God worship.

[03:23:23] When they say specifically idolatrous worship, though, that means that they did find, like, the idols and stuff.

[03:23:31] Okay, okay.

[03:23:31] Okay.

[03:23:32] Yeah.

[03:23:32] So all of that was found there.

[03:23:34] I don't, I take issue with them calling other religions cults.

[03:23:37] Right.

[03:23:38] So I'm like, you know, you guys were a cult too, essentially.

[03:23:41] Yeah.

[03:23:42] Especially back then, because you were smaller and, you know, very much a, you know, one of many.

[03:23:47] Yeah, one of many.

[03:23:48] There was no like, and this is the big one here.

[03:23:51] Right.

[03:23:52] Which, I mean, we've been talking about in our special Patreon episode.

[03:23:56] We started a series about cult versus religion.

[03:24:00] We did.

[03:24:00] Which is actually very relevant to what we're reading now, of course.

[03:24:06] Christianity is just a cult that stuck, you know?

[03:24:08] Yeah.

[03:24:08] I mean.

[03:24:09] That's really how I feel about it.

[03:24:10] Kind of how I feel about it, too.

[03:24:12] So that was the second point.

[03:24:14] The third point is the earthquake mentioned in Amos.

[03:24:18] So Amos references a significant earthquake in chapter one, verse one.

[03:24:25] Which is dated two years before the earthquake.

[03:24:29] You know, the earthquake.

[03:24:31] Geologists and archaeologists have found evidence of an earthquake in Israel around the mid-8th century BCE, supporting the historical setting of the book.

[03:24:42] Which just tells me that they wrote it a couple of years after the earthquake and then said that it took place before.

[03:24:49] Absolutely.

[03:24:50] Not only that, but we also know from literature around that same time period from other places in the world, not just that little teeny tiny dot, that all of a sudden earthquakes showed up as a metric of comparison of how for realsies big or bad something was.

[03:25:14] Sure.

[03:25:15] So there definitely was an earthquake.

[03:25:18] Well, and, you know, we're talking about legitimacy and truth and context, right?

[03:25:23] Well, the fact that they're claiming that this was said two years prior to the earthquake and then it happened and, you know, blah, blah, blah.

[03:25:32] It's a prophecy.

[03:25:33] Right.

[03:25:34] It just doesn't sit well with me.

[03:25:37] Well, it's magic.

[03:25:37] And we don't believe in magic.

[03:25:39] I don't believe in magic.

[03:25:40] Right.

[03:25:40] And I believe that it was written after the fact.

[03:25:42] So if it was illegitimate at the time of writing, it makes it less believable 2,000, 3,000 years later.

[03:25:50] Right.

[03:25:50] You know, like you were lying right off the rip and now we're still reading this shit and believing it for some groups of people in this world.

[03:26:00] Thanks, guys.

[03:26:00] Appreciate that.

[03:26:01] But to me, the fact that we've passed down a lie for thousands of years doesn't make it more believable.

[03:26:09] No.

[03:26:10] It makes it less reliable than it should be.

[03:26:13] It also says to me, yep, mankind was just as stupid back then as they are today if they believe that.

[03:26:20] I mean, we just voted in America for Trump, the biggest dum-dum, and it was a slamslide.

[03:26:30] You know, it was the popular vote voted this guy.

[03:26:34] Right, right.

[03:26:35] So what I'm saying here is if people were stupid enough to believe this back then, all I have to do is look around today and be like, yeah, that tracks.

[03:26:44] Well, and for all we know, it was written by somebody once they went into Syrian exile and they were like, we need something to, you know, pull us back together.

[03:26:52] Yeah, get it.

[03:26:53] They would still remember what was happening.

[03:26:55] They would have been somebody that would have still been, you know, understanding the relevance of this king, that time frame, this happening, that happening.

[03:27:02] But it would have been written with the knowledge of all these things happening.

[03:27:06] And people didn't read back then unless you were a scholar.

[03:27:09] So you could write something and say, hey, you know.

[03:27:13] Look what I just found.

[03:27:13] Look what I found.

[03:27:14] Yeah.

[03:27:15] Right.

[03:27:15] Exactly.

[03:27:15] And they just make up some fucking prophet.

[03:27:17] And the prophet said this and like, it's all wonderful and great.

[03:27:20] And look, everything matches up correctly.

[03:27:22] Wow.

[03:27:22] Crazy, huh?

[03:27:23] It's amazing that this thing that happened, we just now found something that said it was going to happen two years before it happened.

[03:27:31] But somehow the paper doesn't look that old.

[03:27:34] But don't look at that.

[03:27:36] Right.

[03:27:36] Don't look at that.

[03:27:37] In the age of the Internet, we struggle with facts.

[03:27:42] Yeah.

[03:27:42] Right.

[03:27:42] Like we have to seek really hard to make sure that we are not miscommunicating what is happening in the world.

[03:27:51] Even news sources themselves.

[03:27:52] Are being fooled by deep fakes and AI shit.

[03:27:57] Yeah, for sure.

[03:27:57] But in a world though where hardly anyone reads, you know, and news travels slower than, you know, molasses.

[03:28:06] I guess I'll just use a whatever.

[03:28:09] But it would have been so much easier to fool people back then because you just make something up and then say, yep, that's true.

[03:28:16] Sure.

[03:28:16] And then people believe it.

[03:28:18] And then continue to fucking believe it.

[03:28:19] Right.

[03:28:20] That's the part that gets me.

[03:28:22] Right.

[03:28:22] We could know better.

[03:28:24] We can question the legitimacy.

[03:28:26] Yeah.

[03:28:26] Right.

[03:28:27] Like there's what what's wrong with questioning the legitimacy.

[03:28:30] I don't have beef with it, but you'd have to take it up with magic believers.

[03:28:34] Right.

[03:28:35] If there is because look, I can't prove that there's not to 100 percent truth.

[03:28:42] Right.

[03:28:42] That there's not a God.

[03:28:43] Sure.

[03:28:44] Right.

[03:28:44] Like no one, no one can prove there's not a God.

[03:28:46] You can't prove there's not unicorns either.

[03:28:49] There's not, but I can't prove it.

[03:28:51] Right.

[03:28:51] So let's just say, let's just say for the, the, the exercise of this moment right here that there is a God.

[03:28:58] Sure.

[03:28:58] Right.

[03:28:59] Sure.

[03:28:59] Totally.

[03:28:59] Okay.

[03:29:00] Sure.

[03:29:00] All right.

[03:29:00] Just, just play along with me here for just a moment.

[03:29:03] Okay.

[03:29:03] There's totally a God.

[03:29:04] I believe you.

[03:29:06] Why?

[03:29:07] Why would this God, you know, why would he give a fuck?

[03:29:12] What's in a book?

[03:29:13] First of all, let alone, let alone, why would he care what some, you know, asshole wrote 3000 years ago?

[03:29:19] If I was a God, either I'm telling you directly in your heart or in your, you know, whatever the fuck it is that, you know, transmits directly.

[03:29:27] I'm beaming my Godness to you.

[03:29:29] In your ear hole.

[03:29:30] Or, or I'm, I'm making my presence known through things that just are unmistakable as, as signs of God.

[03:29:38] Right.

[03:29:38] Right.

[03:29:40] Or, shit, I'm having fucking breakfast with you.

[03:29:42] I don't know.

[03:29:43] I mean, your God, you could probably have breakfast with everybody at the same time.

[03:29:45] Right.

[03:29:45] You know, I, I don't fucking know, man.

[03:29:47] But why is the, the, the texts from 3000 years ago?

[03:29:54] That's the important part.

[03:29:55] All we have to go on.

[03:29:56] Like, why is that?

[03:29:57] I, I will never get over how we just accept that.

[03:30:03] Right.

[03:30:04] Because it doesn't make any fucking sense.

[03:30:06] Like, there's, there's no reason to believe any of this stuff.

[03:30:10] We're not given any reason to believe any of it.

[03:30:12] No.

[03:30:12] Right?

[03:30:13] No.

[03:30:13] And more than that, it's contradictory.

[03:30:15] It's very shitty behavior with regard to how the God treats his people.

[03:30:21] Mm-hmm.

[03:30:22] And we're supposed to accept that this God is real.

[03:30:25] Sure.

[03:30:26] I just don't get it.

[03:30:29] Yeah.

[03:30:30] I don't, it doesn't make fucking sense.

[03:30:32] You gotta give me something other than because I said so.

[03:30:34] Right.

[03:30:34] And like, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the people who are, cause I said so, and, and the majority

[03:30:40] of them are not trustworthy people.

[03:30:42] I wouldn't trust them to babysit my child, much less to believe that there's a God out

[03:30:46] there.

[03:30:47] Right.

[03:30:47] You know?

[03:30:48] This is a discussion I think I've had recently with somebody, but there's just so much wrong

[03:30:52] with the Bible that I just don't understand how you can sit there and take it as truth.

[03:30:57] Sure.

[03:30:58] That's all.

[03:30:58] And I know I went on a long time about the same fucking thing.

[03:31:01] You did.

[03:31:01] And I've probably gone on about it before, but you know.

[03:31:03] You have.

[03:31:04] It pisses.

[03:31:05] And you'll do it again.

[03:31:07] You will.

[03:31:08] Always going to make me mad.

[03:31:09] Yep.

[03:31:10] Me too.

[03:31:10] Okay.

[03:31:11] All right.

[03:31:11] So moving on, the fourth point is prophetic traditions.

[03:31:15] Amos is part of a broader tradition of Hebrew prophets who critiqued their societies.

[03:31:21] So the fact that there were others means that sure, why not?

[03:31:24] He could have existed.

[03:31:26] You know?

[03:31:26] Sure.

[03:31:26] His unique emphasis on social justice and condemnation of empty religious rituals

[03:31:33] does fit with the cultural and religious evolution of Israel at that time.

[03:31:38] So he very well could have existed if not him, somebody, or a group of somebodies who decided

[03:31:45] to call themselves Amos.

[03:31:46] Yeah, but let's just say that.

[03:31:47] Right.

[03:31:48] That's all.

[03:31:48] Exactly.

[03:31:48] That's all I'm saying.

[03:31:49] No, I totally agree.

[03:31:50] So let's look at some scholarly perspectives.

[03:31:54] Okay.

[03:31:54] Because, you know, that's more fun.

[03:31:56] Yeah.

[03:31:57] While Amos' exact historicity cannot be confirmed, most scholars do agree that the book reflects

[03:32:03] authentic conditions and concerns of 8th century BCE Israel, suggesting that a figure like Amos,

[03:32:10] whether as a single individual or a composite representation of prophetic voices, likely existed.

[03:32:16] Blah, blah, blah, womp, womp.

[03:32:18] Right.

[03:32:18] While this era is not associated with groundbreaking, oh, now we're going to move on to the time

[03:32:23] period in and of itself.

[03:32:24] Okay.

[03:32:25] Because that's pretty much all I could find about Amos and the book thereof.

[03:32:29] Yeah.

[03:32:29] Okay.

[03:32:29] I was like, fuck this guy, fuck this book.

[03:32:32] No one cares about Amos.

[03:32:33] Yeah.

[03:32:33] Basically, like that was pretty much it.

[03:32:35] So I was like, but what else was happening around that time?

[03:32:38] Sure.

[03:32:38] Okay.

[03:32:39] So while this era is not associated with groundbreaking inventions like the wheel or writing, say,

[03:32:46] significant developments in tools, techniques, and ideas were shaping societies.

[03:32:52] Okay.

[03:32:52] So we're going to talk about that a little bit.

[03:32:53] Sure.

[03:32:54] As Amos focused on the social and religious issues of the Northern Kingdom of Israel,

[03:33:00] other significant events and developments were unfolding globally.

[03:33:04] Here's a snapshot of what was happening.

[03:33:07] The Iron Age was in full swing across the Near East, including Israel.

[03:33:13] Iron tools and weapons were becoming more widespread, replacing bronze due to iron's abundance and

[03:33:20] superior strength.

[03:33:21] Okay.

[03:33:22] So we're like right in the middle of the Iron Age during this time.

[03:33:25] Okay.

[03:33:25] Advances in iron smelting and forging allowed more efficient agricultural tools and more durable

[03:33:32] weaponry, influencing warfare and farming.

[03:33:36] Hmm.

[03:33:36] Influencing warfare.

[03:33:37] And farming.

[03:33:38] No, I, yeah, sure.

[03:33:40] You know, warfare so that we can go get more of that land for farming.

[03:33:44] Look, those two things just in and of themselves, right?

[03:33:46] Farming brings more wealth to an area.

[03:33:48] Mm-hmm.

[03:33:49] Weapons bring the ability to take that wealth from the people easier.

[03:33:53] Yeah.

[03:33:53] So both of those things contributed to war.

[03:33:55] Yep.

[03:33:56] The end.

[03:33:57] Which is, right.

[03:33:58] No, I mean, basically, yeah.

[03:34:00] So here's what else was happening, though.

[03:34:01] The Phoenicians, based in city-states like Tyre and Sidon, were at their height as maritime

[03:34:12] traders.

[03:34:13] They developed sturdy ships capable of long-distance trade equipped with advanced sails and steering

[03:34:20] mechanisms.

[03:34:21] They also refined celestial navigation techniques using the stars to guide their voyages across

[03:34:28] the Mediterranean.

[03:34:29] Very cool.

[03:34:30] Yeah.

[03:34:30] They spread their influence and the alphabet, of course, through the Mediterranean because

[03:34:35] they had already done invented the alphabet.

[03:34:37] They got everybody hooked on phonics.

[03:34:40] Nice.

[03:34:42] Including to Greece and North Africa.

[03:34:46] So they spread all that shit.

[03:34:48] Yeah.

[03:34:48] Greek city-states, speaking of Greece, like Athens and Sparta, this is.

[03:34:54] Yeah.

[03:34:54] Were beginning to emerge and the development of the Greek alphabet, adapted from Phoenician

[03:35:00] script, was facilitating cultural and intellectual growth.

[03:35:05] So all of this was coming about like one leading to the other right quick.

[03:35:09] Sure.

[03:35:09] During this little century.

[03:35:11] Well, in the advent of iron and all that kind of, there's a lot of things happening.

[03:35:15] Yes.

[03:35:16] The world is like just ripe, you know, with summer fruit.

[03:35:21] Sure.

[03:35:21] You know, it's just all change everywhere.

[03:35:24] This century was crazy.

[03:35:27] Yeah.

[03:35:27] The Homeric epics like the Iliad and the Odyssey were likely being composed orally, laying

[03:35:34] the foundation for Greek literature.

[03:35:37] Okay.

[03:35:37] So they were actually telling these tales over there in Greece while all of this shit was

[03:35:43] happening, that earthquake or, you know, whatever.

[03:35:46] Yeah.

[03:35:47] While Amos or his facts, fact, whatever.

[03:35:52] What's the word?

[03:35:53] I was starting to say facsimile, but that's not right.

[03:35:55] His avatar, his people like him, whatever.

[03:36:01] I can't think of the word, but anyway, he or people like him were over there, you know,

[03:36:06] yapping about God going to get you.

[03:36:09] God hates you.

[03:36:10] You're doing everything wrong.

[03:36:11] All this high sex in the high places.

[03:36:15] You know, the Greeks were like, cool, cool, cool.

[03:36:17] But anyways, have you heard about those ABCs?

[03:36:20] Right.

[03:36:20] Nice.

[03:36:21] Yeah.

[03:36:21] Yeah.

[03:36:22] Improved irrigation systems, particularly in Mesopotamia, which is the area that we're

[03:36:28] discussing, were increasing agricultural yields.

[03:36:32] So again, with the farming, these technologies supported growing populations and urbanization.

[03:36:37] So the cities were growing.

[03:36:39] Prosperity.

[03:36:40] Yeah.

[03:36:40] The farms were growing.

[03:36:41] The cities were growing.

[03:36:42] Lots of warfare to get the ground and the cities like, yeah, it's just crazy.

[03:36:47] Mm-hmm.

[03:36:47] Techniques for crop rotation and fertilization were being refined, enhancing food security,

[03:36:53] which only led to more cities.

[03:36:55] Yeah.

[03:36:55] So, I mean, this is crazy stuff happening.

[03:36:58] You know, it just, like, it just must have been such an interesting time to be alive.

[03:37:04] Like, the last century, people right now who are 100 years old have seen so much change

[03:37:09] in their lifetime.

[03:37:10] This must have been one of those centuries where they just saw so much change.

[03:37:14] Sure, but the main text that we know from this era, the Bible, right, that we're reading

[03:37:20] here, it just bitches about things.

[03:37:23] Right.

[03:37:23] Exactly.

[03:37:24] Like, it's just, it's par for the course.

[03:37:27] It is.

[03:37:27] People only care about what's going wrong.

[03:37:30] Yeah.

[03:37:30] Like, in general, right?

[03:37:32] That's what pushed through as the main idea.

[03:37:36] I just, it bothers me.

[03:37:38] Like, they're not talking about any of this stuff in the Bible as far as, like, look at

[03:37:42] all these amazing things that are happening to us.

[03:37:44] Right.

[03:37:45] But no, no, God hates you and wants to kill you.

[03:37:47] Right.

[03:37:47] That's what we're talking about.

[03:37:48] I think there needs to be a healthy dose of both because there can be too much celebration

[03:37:56] of what's going well.

[03:37:58] For example, let me prove my point here for a second.

[03:38:02] Whenever I'm at my parents' house and I'm talking about healthcare, you know, and how it's

[03:38:07] a joke in America and other countries have all these other systems.

[03:38:10] My dad's like, yeah, but they have their problems too and blah, blah, blah.

[03:38:14] And we still have the best blah, blah, blah.

[03:38:16] And like, our country can do no wrong.

[03:38:18] You know, you can't talk about how America sucks in this area because if you talk about

[03:38:23] how America sucks in this area, then you're saying that America has a weakness and that

[03:38:28] might mean America's penis is small.

[03:38:30] Yeah.

[03:38:31] We can't have that.

[03:38:32] Whoa.

[03:38:32] That was like a leap.

[03:38:34] Where did that come from?

[03:38:35] Yeah.

[03:38:35] Like, so I just, I think there has to be a hand in hand.

[03:38:39] Nothing is perfect and nothing should be bombed and killed.

[03:38:44] And, you know, like, can there be a happy medium where we're like, hey, this is the places where

[03:38:49] we're doing really, really fucking well.

[03:38:51] But while I was traveling, I saw these cool things that I think we should implement because

[03:38:56] they're doing it better.

[03:38:56] Or I also noticed that while we are doing these things well, here's where we're falling

[03:39:02] short that I would love to see some improvement.

[03:39:04] Yeah.

[03:39:05] Like just that happy medium, you know?

[03:39:08] Right.

[03:39:09] I think on a personal level, like just, you know, when you're talking about a person going,

[03:39:16] trying to find that fine line between self growth versus acceptance and self love.

[03:39:23] You know what I mean?

[03:39:24] Where are the places that I need to grow and to better myself?

[03:39:28] And where are the places that I need to accept my flaws and, you know, just kind of love myself

[03:39:36] whether I suck or not kind of thing.

[03:39:40] You know?

[03:39:41] Yeah.

[03:39:41] So it's that, but on a larger grand scale.

[03:39:44] Right.

[03:39:44] So early settlements were forming in the region that would later become Rome.

[03:39:49] So Rome was starting to build.

[03:39:52] They were building Rome.

[03:39:53] Yeah.

[03:39:53] And now look today, Rome is burning.

[03:39:58] I've seen that going around on Facebook, you know, because Trump.

[03:40:02] Yeah.

[03:40:03] No, I got it.

[03:40:03] And we're Rome.

[03:40:05] Right.

[03:40:05] No, I got it.

[03:40:06] And we're burning because like Rome, you know.

[03:40:08] Okay.

[03:40:09] I got it.

[03:40:10] You see what I did?

[03:40:11] Okay.

[03:40:11] Yes.

[03:40:12] I got it.

[03:40:12] The Etruscans civilization in central Italy were flourishing and influencing later Roman culture.

[03:40:22] Okay.

[03:40:22] Okay.

[03:40:23] That was happening.

[03:40:23] All right.

[03:40:24] Okay.

[03:40:24] I'm going to say this wrong ahead of time.

[03:40:27] I'm telling you that the Chow dynasty, Zhao dynasty, I think it's pronounced Chow.

[03:40:34] It's Z-H-O-U.

[03:40:36] Okay.

[03:40:36] I believe it's the Chow dynasty.

[03:40:38] Okay.

[03:40:39] So apologies if I am completely butchering that.

[03:40:42] But that dynasty, which lasted from 1046 to 256 BCE.

[03:40:49] Yeah.

[03:40:50] That's a crazy length of time.

[03:40:52] It was in its Eastern Chow phase, marked by the spring and autumn period, which is, I don't even know what that means, but it was from 771 to 476 BCE.

[03:41:05] Okay.

[03:41:05] So we're like right in the middle of that dynasty.

[03:41:09] Got it.

[03:41:09] This era saw the rise of regional states and philosophical developments that would later shape Chinese thought, including early Confucian ideas.

[03:41:19] So we're seeing the beginnings of Confucius.

[03:41:22] Got it.

[03:41:22] Yeah.

[03:41:22] The use of iron for agricultural tools began to spread, improving farming efficiency and productivity.

[03:41:30] And the reason I wanted to include other places that we don't typically talk about during, like whenever I do these book wrap ups and I'm like, what else was happening in the world around this time?

[03:41:44] Yeah.

[03:41:45] I just think it's important to recognize other nations.

[03:41:48] You know, they existed on the planet too.

[03:41:51] Right.

[03:41:51] And put it in context historically, right?

[03:41:55] Innovations in plowing techniques, such as more efficient plows, allowed for the cultivation of harder soils.

[03:42:02] And although iron was becoming more common, the Chinese were still producing highly sophisticated bronze objects, particularly for ceremonial purposes using advanced casting techniques.

[03:42:16] So even though we are in the iron age, they were still using bronze era, but to its perfection.

[03:42:24] Sure.

[03:42:24] So I wouldn't call that a not caught up so much as a, but we're still doing it better back then.

[03:42:30] Right.

[03:42:31] You know what I mean?

[03:42:31] And we already have the resources for this shit.

[03:42:33] So whatever.

[03:42:33] And also we're not mixing with y'all.

[03:42:36] So y'all can do what the fuck you want over there.

[03:42:38] Right.

[03:42:38] You know, we're, we're doing our own thing over here and we're doing it just fine.

[03:42:41] Thank you.

[03:42:42] Yeah.

[03:42:42] In India, the Vedic period, which was around 1500 to 500 BCE.

[03:42:50] So that period was underway, characterized by the composition of the Vedas, which were foundational texts of Hinduism.

[03:42:59] So that's when Hinduism was starting.

[03:43:01] Early city states and kingdoms were forming, but larger empires like the Mauryan dynasty were still centuries away.

[03:43:09] India was already known for its textile production, including the spinning and weaving of cotton.

[03:43:16] That's amazing.

[03:43:17] I did not realize that it dated that far back.

[03:43:20] Techniques for dyeing fabrics with natural pigments were becoming more refined.

[03:43:26] So they had very colorful clothing.

[03:43:29] Right.

[03:43:29] In Mesoamerica, so, you know, our stomping grounds a little bit, kind of.

[03:43:36] Yeah.

[03:43:36] The Olmec civilization, which was around 1500 to 400 BCE, was thriving, considered a quote unquote mother culture of later civilizations like the Mayans and the Aztec.

[03:43:52] Okay.

[03:43:52] So we're talking about Southern.

[03:43:54] Like South America, Middle America and South America.

[03:43:58] Right.

[03:43:58] Yeah.

[03:43:58] Yeah.

[03:43:59] The Olmecs were creating monumental sculptures, including their iconic colossal stone heads.

[03:44:06] You know, those big old giant heads?

[03:44:08] Yeah.

[03:44:09] Using tools made from basalt and other hard stones.

[03:44:13] And early forms of rubber processing were likely developed as the Olmecs were among the first to use natural rubber, possibly for ritual or practical purposes.

[03:44:26] Gotcha.

[03:44:26] I did not know rubber dated back that far.

[03:44:28] Yeah.

[03:44:29] Yeah.

[03:44:29] So that is what else was happening in the world where the Bible wasn't.

[03:44:34] Got it.

[03:44:34] And I just thought it was important and that I'd stick it in there because fuck Amos and fuck the Bible.

[03:44:40] There you go.

[03:44:41] Yeah.

[03:44:42] Okay.

[03:44:43] Okay.

[03:44:43] So that was Amos wrap up.

[03:44:46] Wrap up.

[03:44:47] We have one more episode to go.

[03:44:50] Yeah.

[03:44:50] And then we'll be done with this bitch.

[03:44:52] Yeah.

[03:44:52] Yeah.

[03:44:53] It's the one where I'm always right.

[03:44:55] You're always wrong.

[03:44:57] Fuck.

[03:44:58] Wrong.

[03:44:58] Yeah.

[03:44:59] No.

[03:44:59] Yeah.

[03:44:59] I got it.

[03:45:00] All right.

[03:45:00] All right.

[03:45:01] So that's our next one that we'll be doing probably tomorrow.

[03:45:05] And then I will be back with the weekly wrap up after that or the weekly replay.

[03:45:10] I'm sorry.

[03:45:10] After that, where we get the week long episodes in one.

[03:45:14] And then we will be back for that one chapter of that one book.

[03:45:20] That one book.

[03:45:20] I think it's Obadiah, but I didn't look and I never do because we're so prepped.

[03:45:26] We're so ready for this.

[03:45:27] You know, I mean, it's unbelievable how prepped we get.

[03:45:30] Why start now being professional?

[03:45:32] I know.

[03:45:32] Right.

[03:45:32] Yeah.

[03:45:33] Somebody asked us last night, like, you guys don't plan ahead.

[03:45:36] And we were like, fuck no.

[03:45:38] Yeah.

[03:45:38] Yeah.

[03:45:39] Just so we have some good.

[03:45:40] I want to mention it on the end of the podcast here.

[03:45:44] Okay.

[03:45:44] We have some friends that are friends on Discord with us.

[03:45:49] Mm-hmm.

[03:45:50] That we did a interview on their YouTube channel, which it was just a fun get together.

[03:45:54] It was a chit chat.

[03:45:55] It was a hangout.

[03:45:56] So if you have the time, you should go check out.

[03:46:02] The channel's called Talk to Your Plants.

[03:46:05] Revived.

[03:46:06] Revived.

[03:46:06] Or resuscitated.

[03:46:07] We had a good time.

[03:46:09] Yes.

[03:46:09] So, and it was, there were some good questions.

[03:46:13] And we just chatted for a long time.

[03:46:15] Mm-hmm.

[03:46:16] It was a lot of fun.

[03:46:17] It was a lot of fun.

[03:46:18] So.

[03:46:18] But we always have fun with them because they come hang out with us in our Discord on Wednesdays

[03:46:23] at 10 p.m. Eastern.

[03:46:25] Yeah.

[03:46:25] And you can too.

[03:46:26] That's right.

[03:46:27] All right.

[03:46:28] So that's all we got for tonight.

[03:46:30] And we will see you guys next time.

[03:46:32] Bye.

[03:46:39] Bye.

[03:46:39] Do you know what we're doing today?

[03:46:41] Bye.

[03:46:42] Well, we are finishing up our last episode for the Books of Amos.

[03:46:49] The one book of Amos.

[03:46:52] Yeah.

[03:46:52] The one book.

[03:46:53] The many chapters.

[03:46:54] Yeah.

[03:46:54] The sort of many.

[03:46:55] The nine chapters.

[03:46:56] Some chapters.

[03:46:57] Yeah.

[03:46:57] A few chapters.

[03:46:58] It's not Books of Amos.

[03:46:59] Yeah.

[03:47:00] It's just one book.

[03:47:00] Yeah.

[03:47:01] Yeah.

[03:47:01] That's the one.

[03:47:02] And so this is the one where I try to show how stupid I am.

[03:47:10] Right.

[03:47:11] Because you're always wrong.

[03:47:14] Right.

[03:47:14] Yes.

[03:47:15] Yeah.

[03:47:15] That's the one.

[03:47:16] And then we get to do a pop quiz where you're even stupider.

[03:47:19] But that's okay because I'm pretty stupid too.

[03:47:22] Well, you know, as long as you enjoy the process.

[03:47:27] I do.

[03:47:27] That's all that really matters.

[03:47:28] You know?

[03:47:29] Actually, I got an 80 on the pop quiz.

[03:47:30] Did you really?

[03:47:31] Yeah.

[03:47:31] Now I'm under some pressure.

[03:47:32] Mm-hmm.

[03:47:33] Okay.

[03:47:34] All right.

[03:47:34] So are you ready to do some contradictions?

[03:47:37] Sure as fuck am.

[03:47:38] All right.

[03:47:38] Let's do this.

[03:47:39] Okie dokie.

[03:47:45] All righty.

[03:47:46] So we are hopping into our You're Always Wrong episode.

[03:47:51] Yeah.

[03:47:52] Yeah.

[03:47:52] Yeah.

[03:47:52] Good stuff.

[03:47:53] Mm-hmm.

[03:47:55] We've done a lot of these questions before at this point.

[03:47:58] Yeah.

[03:47:58] No, we kind of cover this every time we get into a contradictions episode.

[03:48:01] And I think we've kind of deemed that if we've covered it way too many times, we're just not going to cover it.

[03:48:06] Right.

[03:48:07] So.

[03:48:08] And also, if the questions are stupid and don't really count in our estimation as a contradiction.

[03:48:16] Yeah, like math.

[03:48:17] Bad math.

[03:48:18] Like, whatever.

[03:48:19] As long as it's not, like, ridiculously bad math or something.

[03:48:21] Yeah.

[03:48:21] You know, there's whatever.

[03:48:23] It's.

[03:48:23] Or mixed up names.

[03:48:25] Like, dude, this is from thousands of years ago.

[03:48:27] They didn't even know.

[03:48:28] Sure.

[03:48:29] Like, how to tie their fucking shoes or whatever.

[03:48:32] I mean, it depends on how you want to look at it, right?

[03:48:34] Like, so the, the, a lot of people say that the Bible is the word of God.

[03:48:38] Mm-hmm.

[03:48:39] Right?

[03:48:39] So if it's the word of God, it should be absolutely fucking 100% correct.

[03:48:43] Right.

[03:48:43] Right.

[03:48:43] Right?

[03:48:44] And that's why people get hung up on contradictions a lot of the time is because, well, if it's

[03:48:49] God, if God's dictating this through people.

[03:48:52] Then it should be perfect.

[03:48:53] Then it should be perfect.

[03:48:53] And I agree with that premise in the grand scheme of things.

[03:48:59] Right.

[03:48:59] But in the individual scheme of things, like one-on-one and taking each little thing, there's

[03:49:10] so much valid arguments to be made that I feel like it's shooting yourself in the foot

[03:49:16] when you're just picky for the sake of picky.

[03:49:18] Right.

[03:49:18] No.

[03:49:18] And we, so we focus on God's messages that are contradicting each other or themes that

[03:49:24] are contradicting each other.

[03:49:25] And that's where we kind of stick to.

[03:49:26] Exactly.

[03:49:27] Like number one, for example, I feel like is a really good one.

[03:49:30] Does God allow pregnant women to be ripped apart?

[03:49:34] And your answers are either yes or no.

[03:49:36] Yes.

[03:49:37] Yes.

[03:49:37] According to Amos.

[03:49:38] Yes.

[03:49:39] Yeah.

[03:49:39] And Hosea, sometimes pregnant women are ripped up to punish those who rebel against

[03:49:45] him.

[03:49:46] Yeah.

[03:49:46] Samaria shall become desolate for she hath rebelled against her God.

[03:49:50] They shall fall by the sword.

[03:49:52] Their infants shall be dashed in pieces and their women with child shall be ripped up.

[03:49:58] That's fucking disgusting.

[03:50:00] It was horrible.

[03:50:00] That was Hosea chapter 13 verse 16.

[03:50:03] Right.

[03:50:03] And sometimes the Bible just reports these incidents without comment.

[03:50:07] Like in 2 Kings, we've got chapter 15 verse 16.

[03:50:13] Manahem smote Tipshah and all that were therein and the coast thereof from Terza because they

[03:50:20] opened not to him.

[03:50:21] Therefore, he smote it.

[03:50:22] And all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.

[03:50:26] Wow.

[03:50:26] Yeah.

[03:50:26] So, you know.

[03:50:28] But guess what?

[03:50:30] I'm right on this one.

[03:50:32] But okay, I'm wrong.

[03:50:32] You're always wrong because that's the point of this episode and all those like it is that

[03:50:38] you can cherry pick and find whatever you want to prove your answer.

[03:50:43] Right.

[03:50:43] Right.

[03:50:44] Okay.

[03:50:44] So according to Amos.

[03:50:45] Yeah.

[03:50:46] Oh, Amos.

[03:50:47] Amos.

[03:50:47] Yeah.

[03:50:48] God punished the Ammonites for doing just that, ripping up the pregnant women of Gilead.

[03:50:52] Yeah.

[03:50:53] Um, in chapter one, verse three, uh, thus sayeth the Lord for three transgressions of the children

[03:50:59] of Ammon and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof because they have ripped

[03:51:04] up the women with child of Gilead that they might enlarge their border.

[03:51:08] Yeah.

[03:51:08] We talked about the hypocrisy of that at the time because it was like, it's only okay if

[03:51:13] God says it.

[03:51:14] Right.

[03:51:14] Yeah.

[03:51:15] In my opinion, right.

[03:51:16] If you're God and you are punishing certain people for doing the thing that you later do,

[03:51:22] that's wrong, but you're God.

[03:51:25] So you have the ability to just like, you know, um, Thanos snapped the fucking, you know,

[03:51:29] people that you don't like into fucking non-existence.

[03:51:32] I thought all life is precious.

[03:51:34] Is it not?

[03:51:35] Well, you know, I think that depends on which part of the Bible you're into.

[03:51:38] Yeah.

[03:51:39] Um, that's probably a more new Testament and it's also probably more, um, Christians of

[03:51:45] America try to spout that bullshit as they're claiming to be pro-life, even though they vote

[03:51:51] to like do away with free school lunches.

[03:51:54] Sure.

[03:51:54] So yeah, fuck them.

[03:51:56] Right.

[03:51:56] Anyway.

[03:51:57] Yeah.

[03:51:57] So number two is God, the creator of evil.

[03:52:01] We've covered this one too, but the answer is yes or no.

[03:52:04] Yes or no.

[03:52:05] Yes or no.

[03:52:05] In the, um, spirit of the fact of the fact that people believe God created everything.

[03:52:10] I'm going to go with.

[03:52:11] Yes.

[03:52:12] That's because it's true.

[03:52:13] Um, first Kings chapter 14, verse 10, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam

[03:52:19] and I will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall.

[03:52:23] I'll never get over that.

[03:52:25] Him that pisseth against the wall.

[03:52:27] What a bastard.

[03:52:28] I don't think that was in our version because they don't use words like pisseth.

[03:52:32] No, that, that was the King James version.

[03:52:34] Right.

[03:52:35] Um, also in second Kings chapter six, verse 33, we've got behold this evil's of the Lord.

[03:52:42] Then in Jeremiah chapter four, verse six, we've got, I will bring evil from the North.

[03:52:48] And then Jeremiah chapter 18, verse 11, behold, I frame evil against you.

[03:52:54] And then in Isaiah chapter 45, verse seven, I create evil.

[03:53:00] Hmm.

[03:53:00] Yeah.

[03:53:01] Wow.

[03:53:01] He straight up says it.

[03:53:02] Yeah.

[03:53:02] I was going to say the other ones, it was just him bringing it, which is, could be construed

[03:53:06] that he didn't create it.

[03:53:08] But kind of like if I say I'm bringing deviled eggs to the family get together.

[03:53:13] Right.

[03:53:14] Doesn't mean I made it.

[03:53:15] Yeah.

[03:53:15] It could have been the grocery store.

[03:53:16] Yeah.

[03:53:17] Yeah.

[03:53:17] Uh, in Job chapter two, verse 10, we've got what shall we receive good at the hand of God

[03:53:23] and shall we not receive evil?

[03:53:25] So, yeah.

[03:53:26] And then in Lamentations chapter three, verse 38, we've got out of the mouth of the most high

[03:53:32] proceedeth not evil and good.

[03:53:35] So, yeah, both.

[03:53:36] All right.

[03:53:37] And then one more.

[03:53:39] Amos chapter three, verse six says, shall there be evil in a city and the Lord hath not

[03:53:45] done it?

[03:53:46] I don't know.

[03:53:47] Shall there?

[03:53:48] No, because the Lord makes everything just like he said.

[03:53:52] Yeah.

[03:53:52] All right.

[03:53:53] He's in charge of everything and he makes all the things.

[03:53:55] Right.

[03:53:55] Okay.

[03:53:56] And, but guess what?

[03:53:58] I'm right.

[03:53:59] You're always wrong.

[03:54:02] Damn it.

[03:54:02] Yeah.

[03:54:03] The answer is no.

[03:54:04] God doesn't make evil.

[03:54:05] Ugh.

[03:54:06] How could you say such a thing?

[03:54:08] Um, the best example is in Psalm chapter five, verse four, for thou art not a God that

[03:54:15] hath pleasure in wickedness, neither shall evil dwell within thee.

[03:54:20] Like, ew.

[03:54:21] God doesn't do evil or make evil.

[03:54:23] Oh, everything he does is pretty and perfect.

[03:54:25] Right.

[03:54:26] He's lollipops and rainbows.

[03:54:28] But I, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to say this because a lot of the Psalms and

[03:54:31] Proverbs were just poesy and people pleading with God for the way that they think that God

[03:54:36] should be.

[03:54:36] Yeah.

[03:54:37] Right.

[03:54:37] So, and I'm not trying to defend that.

[03:54:40] Yeah.

[03:54:41] I think that this was another one of those that I almost didn't put because anytime the

[03:54:46] argument, whichever way it is.

[03:54:49] Yeah.

[03:54:49] The only one is in Psalms or Proverbs.

[03:54:51] It's not a great argument.

[03:54:53] Yeah.

[03:54:53] Yeah.

[03:54:54] Right.

[03:54:54] But I just wanted to be allowed to name all those places.

[03:54:58] And there were so many more where God definitely created evil.

[03:55:02] Sure.

[03:55:02] And, but you know, the thing is that there are a lot of Christians that will claim that

[03:55:06] God did not create evil.

[03:55:08] So I think it's an important question when, especially it's so prevalent.

[03:55:12] Yeah.

[03:55:12] It's all the way throughout the Bible.

[03:55:14] There's so many different places where it's like, yeah, he brought it.

[03:55:16] He made it.

[03:55:17] He gave it.

[03:55:18] He did it.

[03:55:19] And the only places where it's like, no, no way, Jose.

[03:55:23] He would never is in those pretty poetical parts, which is what the Christians know.

[03:55:27] Right.

[03:55:28] Is the, the Proverbs and the Psalms and the Lamentations.

[03:55:31] Yeah.

[03:55:31] You know, they're like, God is pretty.

[03:55:35] He does roller skates.

[03:55:37] He can do flips on ice skates and he rides ponies.

[03:55:42] You know?

[03:55:43] Yeah.

[03:55:44] Yeah.

[03:55:45] Because.

[03:55:46] Right.

[03:55:46] Because ponies.

[03:55:47] I mean.

[03:55:47] You know, why not?

[03:55:48] He's everything pretty and good.

[03:55:49] Yeah.

[03:55:50] You know?

[03:55:50] Mm-hmm.

[03:55:51] All right.

[03:55:51] Number three.

[03:55:52] Is it okay to drink alcohol?

[03:55:54] We've done this one so many times.

[03:55:56] Yeah.

[03:55:56] I can't even remember what all I've answered in the past, but I'm going to go with yes.

[03:55:58] It's okay.

[03:55:59] Okay.

[03:55:59] Sure.

[03:55:59] Sure.

[03:56:00] Of course it is.

[03:56:00] Of course it is.

[03:56:01] Because wine is a gift from God, as it says in both Genesis and Proverbs.

[03:56:08] God give thee of the dew of heaven and the fatness of the earth and plenty of corn and

[03:56:12] wine and drink of the wine, which I have mingled.

[03:56:16] Yeah.

[03:56:16] Yeah.

[03:56:16] Yeah.

[03:56:16] Good stuff.

[03:56:17] Also, you're supposed to eat and drink whatever you like, including wine and strong drink.

[03:56:22] Okay.

[03:56:22] Like in Deuteronomy, it says, thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, the tithe of thy

[03:56:27] corn of thy wine.

[03:56:29] Oh.

[03:56:29] Wow.

[03:56:29] And then when David brought the ark to Jerusalem, he, who was, you know, God's favorite, gave

[03:56:35] man and woman, every man and woman in Israel, a flagon of wine.

[03:56:40] Wow.

[03:56:40] Yeah.

[03:56:41] He dealt to every one of Israel, both man and woman, a flagon of wine.

[03:56:45] That's in first Chronicles.

[03:56:46] Damn.

[03:56:47] Yeah.

[03:56:47] And I mean, that's the word of God.

[03:56:49] Right.

[03:56:49] And then also God does command us to drink wine with a merry heart to give strong drink

[03:56:55] to the dying and wine to those who are sad.

[03:56:58] Okay.

[03:56:59] And like in Ecclesiastes, it says, go thy way, eat thy bread with joy and drink thy wine with

[03:57:05] a merry heart.

[03:57:06] And then in Proverbs, it says, give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish and

[03:57:12] wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

[03:57:15] Let him drink and forget his poverty and remember his misery no more.

[03:57:18] And then it's on the Solomon.

[03:57:20] It says, I have drunk my wine.

[03:57:22] Oh, friends drink.

[03:57:23] Yay.

[03:57:23] Drink abundantly.

[03:57:24] But guess what?

[03:57:26] A quick question, though.

[03:57:27] Have we read Ecclesiastes?

[03:57:29] I didn't.

[03:57:30] Did I say Ecclesiastes?

[03:57:31] You did.

[03:57:32] And I was just curious because I don't feel like we've covered that one yet.

[03:57:35] I don't remember.

[03:57:36] Okay.

[03:57:37] All right.

[03:57:38] I honestly don't remember.

[03:57:40] You don't remember that we read it or not?

[03:57:42] I don't remember if we've read it or not, but it's one of the ones that I copied

[03:57:47] in here and probably shouldn't have.

[03:57:48] Got it.

[03:57:49] Because I'm going to bet we didn't.

[03:57:50] Got it.

[03:57:51] Oops.

[03:57:51] Why you got to be calling me out on the microphone?

[03:57:54] But anyway, guess what?

[03:57:57] What?

[03:57:57] The answer is no, because you're always wrong.

[03:58:01] Okay.

[03:58:02] Okay.

[03:58:02] You cannot drink wine if you're a Nazarite priest or prophet, which doesn't apply to

[03:58:06] most of us, but still in Numbers, it says, and the Lord spake unto Moses saying, speak

[03:58:12] unto the children of Israel and say unto them when either man or woman shall separate themselves

[03:58:18] to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the Lord.

[03:58:24] He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink and shall drink no vinegar or wine or

[03:58:31] vinegar of strong drink.

[03:58:33] Neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes or dried.

[03:58:39] But this was for the Nazarites though, right?

[03:58:41] I'm going to carry on, but right now I'm just referring to only Nazarites, priests, and

[03:58:45] prophets.

[03:58:46] Sure.

[03:58:46] Just an FYI that we did read Ecclesiastes.

[03:58:48] Okay.

[03:58:49] Yeah.

[03:58:49] Okay.

[03:58:49] It's after Proverbs and it's before Song of Solomon.

[03:58:52] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[03:58:52] It's another one of those poesy ones stuck in there.

[03:58:55] Yeah.

[03:58:56] All right.

[03:58:56] So in Judges, it says, and the angel of the Lord appeared unto the woman, Samson's mother,

[03:59:01] and said unto her, behold, now thou art barren and bearish not, but thou shalt conceive

[03:59:06] and bear a son, Samson.

[03:59:08] Now, therefore, beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink.

[03:59:13] I don't know if that really counts as a no, don't drink to everybody.

[03:59:16] That's just good practice for a mother.

[03:59:17] You're going to be preggies.

[03:59:19] Don't drink.

[03:59:19] Yeah.

[03:59:20] Preggies don't drink.

[03:59:21] It strikes me that that's excellent advice for that long ago, right?

[03:59:26] Like, I mean, how would they?

[03:59:26] Oh, they knew?

[03:59:27] Yeah.

[03:59:27] Right.

[03:59:27] Interesting.

[03:59:28] Yeah.

[03:59:28] I didn't know they knew that alcohol was bad for a mother.

[03:59:32] Yeah.

[03:59:32] Wow.

[03:59:32] That's interesting considering that people today would argue that sometimes.

[03:59:36] And then in Isaiah, it said, but they also have erred through wine and through strong drink

[03:59:43] are out of the way.

[03:59:44] The priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink.

[03:59:46] They are swallowed up of wine.

[03:59:48] They are out of the way through strong drink.

[03:59:51] They err in vision.

[03:59:52] They stumble in judgment.

[03:59:53] Now, that was just the Nazarites and the priests and whatever.

[03:59:58] Yeah.

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