Bible Study by Atheists Weekly: Hosea Wrap up and Contradictions

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[00:00:47] Husband! Wife! Do you know what we're doing today?

[00:00:51] Well, we have finished Hosea, which means that right now we are getting into what we like to call the book wrap up.

[00:01:00] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:01:01] So we are wrapping up Hosea.

[00:01:03] The book of Hosea.

[00:01:04] Yeah. That's right.

[00:01:05] That's fantastic.

[00:01:06] Another notch on your belt, guys.

[00:01:08] Right, yeah.

[00:01:08] You have read another book of the Bible.

[00:01:10] So that was the 28th book of the Bible, just so everybody, for anybody keeping track.

[00:01:14] I wasn't. Good on you.

[00:01:15] And so we're going to be going, after we're done with the wrap ups and the contradictions and all the things,

[00:01:20] we're going to be going into the 29th book of the Bible.

[00:01:23] Wow.

[00:01:23] So it's fantastic.

[00:01:25] That's crazy.

[00:01:26] There's only like 60 something books.

[00:01:27] So like number wise, we're getting real close to that midway number of, you know, like books.

[00:01:33] That's amazing.

[00:01:34] Like I never would have thought that we would have made it this far.

[00:01:38] You know, I honestly, when we started this thing, I didn't think it would take us this long to fucking read the goddamn Bible.

[00:01:44] No, I know when I was talking to somebody else about our project, what we're doing.

[00:01:50] Yeah.

[00:01:50] They were like four years just to get that far.

[00:01:54] And like, I don't know.

[00:01:56] I have no comparison, you know?

[00:01:59] Right.

[00:01:59] Yeah.

[00:01:59] Like to me, it's like, yeah, but we're reading like a chapter a night.

[00:02:04] Take the weekends off.

[00:02:06] And to be fair, we spend an inordinate amount of time on each chapter.

[00:02:10] So, I mean, part of it is our process that we do.

[00:02:13] Right.

[00:02:14] And the part of it is, it's a really fucking thick book.

[00:02:17] Right.

[00:02:17] It's got a lot of shit in it.

[00:02:19] So when people are like, it took you four years and you haven't even got through it yet.

[00:02:23] You're only not even halfway through it.

[00:02:25] I'm like, okay, but when you say you read it, like, what does that mean to you?

[00:02:29] Right.

[00:02:30] Do you understand what you're reading?

[00:02:31] Because I don't.

[00:02:32] They have one of those like Bible in a year things.

[00:02:35] Yeah.

[00:02:35] And they read this bit and that bit.

[00:02:37] And they just buzz through it right quick.

[00:02:39] And I'm like, well, yeah, we could do that.

[00:02:41] But I like discussing it with you.

[00:02:44] And I like being like, oh, those cities are these cities.

[00:02:48] Oh, and putting it all together.

[00:02:50] Right.

[00:02:51] Yeah.

[00:02:51] I mean, and I think that either one of us could have finished reading the Bible within a year.

[00:02:55] Sure.

[00:02:55] You know, like that.

[00:02:56] That's definitely a doable task.

[00:02:58] But you know what?

[00:02:59] You wouldn't have got.

[00:03:00] We wouldn't have got as much out of it.

[00:03:01] And we would have stopped because that should be boring.

[00:03:04] Yeah.

[00:03:04] I would not have gotten this far if it wasn't fun.

[00:03:07] Right.

[00:03:07] And we're stopping to research.

[00:03:09] We're stopping to talk about it.

[00:03:10] We're stopping to question.

[00:03:11] We're stopping to make laugh at it or, you know, like yell at it.

[00:03:14] Right.

[00:03:15] Yeah.

[00:03:15] There's lots of things that need to be done as you're reading through the Bible if you want it to be entertaining and also informative.

[00:03:23] Exactly.

[00:03:24] Right.

[00:03:24] And I feel like if you're going to read something for as long as we're reading something, it should be fucking entertaining.

[00:03:30] Right.

[00:03:30] And hopefully you guys think the same.

[00:03:32] Well, I mean, obviously somebody does.

[00:03:34] We've got a few followers that come back every day or every week.

[00:03:37] We're actually getting pretty big these days.

[00:03:39] I had a, I had, well, anyway, we, there's people coming to me all the time.

[00:03:43] Like I saw you on a top list.

[00:03:46] And I'm like, oh, well, that's cool.

[00:03:47] That is cool.

[00:03:48] Yeah.

[00:03:49] Well, you know, we're, we're, we're something we're climbing up there.

[00:03:52] Not, not something, something, but we're something.

[00:03:55] We're something to us or something.

[00:03:56] Yeah.

[00:03:56] In our little circle.

[00:03:57] We're something else.

[00:03:58] We're something else.

[00:03:59] That's a fact.

[00:04:01] Anyway.

[00:04:01] Okay.

[00:04:01] So we're, we're getting into it.

[00:04:03] What was it again today?

[00:04:04] We're doing the Hosea wrap up.

[00:04:06] All right.

[00:04:06] You ready to do this?

[00:04:07] Yes.

[00:04:08] Let's do it.

[00:04:09] Okie dokie.

[00:04:16] All right.

[00:04:16] We are getting into Hosea wrap up, wrap up.

[00:04:21] You didn't even say the other thing.

[00:04:23] Hose head.

[00:04:23] Oh, there we go.

[00:04:24] I was waiting for it.

[00:04:25] I'm like, what the fuck's wife doing?

[00:04:27] She didn't even say Hose head in the intro or now I had a guy to prompt you.

[00:04:31] Here's the thing.

[00:04:31] You know what?

[00:04:32] What?

[00:04:32] Um, I'm drinking wine.

[00:04:35] You are.

[00:04:37] And let me tell you what a trash human being I am.

[00:04:40] And it makes me happy every time I say it.

[00:04:42] This is how I drink wine.

[00:04:44] I drink it in a mason glass.

[00:04:47] You do.

[00:04:48] Over ice.

[00:04:49] You do.

[00:04:49] And I drink it like it's a punch.

[00:04:51] You do.

[00:04:52] And sometimes I even drink it with a straw.

[00:04:55] You do.

[00:04:55] And you know, I've had people be like, oh my God, what is wrong with you?

[00:04:59] And here's what's wrong with me.

[00:05:01] Yeah.

[00:05:02] I enjoy having fun.

[00:05:03] And that is fun to me.

[00:05:05] Right.

[00:05:05] And it doesn't change the taste at all because I'm not a connoisseur of fine things.

[00:05:09] To be fair, it's not fine wine.

[00:05:11] No.

[00:05:12] We just got cheap shit.

[00:05:13] It's like, what, $4 wine or some shit from the gas station?

[00:05:16] Right, so fuck cares, you know?

[00:05:16] Yeah.

[00:05:18] Yeah.

[00:05:18] So, I mean, that is how I drink wine and I enjoy every goddamn minute of it.

[00:05:25] Right.

[00:05:25] And I think that's the purpose of most things in life that you, you know, that you want to

[00:05:30] do, right?

[00:05:31] Yeah.

[00:05:31] If you want to drink wine, you might as well fucking enjoy how you're drinking it.

[00:05:34] I don't need a wine glass is the thing.

[00:05:36] You don't need a wine glass.

[00:05:36] No.

[00:05:36] Why do you need a wine glass?

[00:05:37] That's one of those traditions, those things set in, you know, unless you're like, you

[00:05:42] know, a Romize or what is it?

[00:05:44] You know, from, no, fromage is cheese.

[00:05:48] What are those guys called?

[00:05:50] I don't know.

[00:05:50] Where they, where they taste, you know, they, they breathe it in and they, you know, they,

[00:05:54] they take a little with their tongue and everything.

[00:05:58] And then they spit it out.

[00:05:59] Right.

[00:05:59] Yeah.

[00:06:00] I don't, I don't get that.

[00:06:01] We're not doing that with Boone's farm, you know, that's just not how it goes.

[00:06:04] So this isn't a farm, but honestly, it might as well be.

[00:06:09] Right.

[00:06:09] Yeah.

[00:06:09] All right.

[00:06:10] So let me get my shit together and talk about who's head.

[00:06:12] Okay.

[00:06:13] All right.

[00:06:14] So who's head Hosea is listed as the first of the 12 minor prophets in the Tanakh in

[00:06:22] the Christian old Testament.

[00:06:23] Okay.

[00:06:24] Did you know that?

[00:06:25] We've talked about it before.

[00:06:26] You said the Tanakh, which is Jewish.

[00:06:28] It's not, that's not Christian.

[00:06:29] Right.

[00:06:30] So I just want to make sure.

[00:06:31] Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:06:32] I meant to say, and in the Christian old Testament.

[00:06:35] Okay.

[00:06:35] Sorry.

[00:06:36] I knew what I meant.

[00:06:38] So I was like, what are you talking about?

[00:06:41] Sorry.

[00:06:41] Yeah.

[00:06:42] No, it's fine.

[00:06:42] And both.

[00:06:43] I wanted to make sure.

[00:06:44] Both.

[00:06:44] Yep.

[00:06:45] So, yeah.

[00:06:46] So we're into the last bit of the Old Testament here because all that's left is the minor prophets.

[00:06:52] Right.

[00:06:52] So, yeah.

[00:06:53] That's where we're at.

[00:06:54] But the book is set around the fall of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, as we know.

[00:06:59] In the last year of the reign of Jeroboam, as we know.

[00:07:03] Sure.

[00:07:04] Who was king of Israel.

[00:07:05] And as such, it denounces the worship of gods other than Yahweh.

[00:07:10] Right.

[00:07:10] You know, because.

[00:07:11] But that's not exclusive to this.

[00:07:13] No.

[00:07:14] No.

[00:07:14] Anyway, whatsoever.

[00:07:15] It really isn't.

[00:07:16] I'm like, what's special about him?

[00:07:18] Absolutely nothing.

[00:07:19] Right.

[00:07:19] It's pretty much an ongoing theme throughout most of the Old Testament.

[00:07:22] Oh, what's really fun is when we get down to the chapter breakdowns.

[00:07:27] Yeah.

[00:07:27] Like, I just did like a little summary just as a reminder of what happened.

[00:07:32] Yeah.

[00:07:32] For sure.

[00:07:32] And I made a legend that has a key that I'll tell you about that says all the things that

[00:07:42] were repeated throughout this chapter, which kind of echoes the Old Testament as a whole

[00:07:47] thus far.

[00:07:47] Yeah.

[00:07:48] And we kind of commented on that throughout the book, too.

[00:07:51] Yeah.

[00:07:51] So.

[00:07:51] Yeah.

[00:07:51] We'll get there.

[00:07:52] Yeah.

[00:07:53] All right.

[00:07:53] This book starts out using the story of Hosea's unfaithful wife.

[00:07:58] Right.

[00:07:58] That was.

[00:07:59] Do you remember her name?

[00:07:59] It was Gomer.

[00:08:01] Wow.

[00:08:02] I pulled that one out of my ass.

[00:08:03] You sure as fuck did.

[00:08:05] I don't know how you remembered that, but I am impressed.

[00:08:08] I don't have notes in front of me, just for the record.

[00:08:11] No, you don't.

[00:08:11] Because I don't allow it.

[00:08:12] No.

[00:08:13] I really don't.

[00:08:14] I am strictly off the top of my head.

[00:08:16] As a matter of fact, before we started this podcast, you were talking about.

[00:08:22] Tonight's podcast, not the whole.

[00:08:23] Oh, yeah.

[00:08:23] Yeah.

[00:08:24] Before this episode.

[00:08:25] Yeah.

[00:08:25] You were suggesting that we change up the way we do things a little bit so that you would

[00:08:31] have a better idea of where the conversation might be going.

[00:08:35] And I was like, absolutely fucking not.

[00:08:38] I mostly the part that I want to like, I hate it when I miss a theme, you know, because sometimes

[00:08:45] we'll be reading that.

[00:08:46] That's the part that bothers me is when we go back and we do some studying afterwards.

[00:08:50] And then I'm like, oh, right.

[00:08:53] That's what that was.

[00:08:54] And then like, I missed the whole fucking point.

[00:08:56] Right.

[00:08:56] And sometimes like when we so when we started things back in like Exodus and Genesis and

[00:09:01] everything, there's themes that I missed up until well into the prophets and stuff.

[00:09:07] But I'm thinking I'm thinking that leans towards once we're done reading the Bible, I really

[00:09:13] I've been feeling this more and more and more.

[00:09:16] Yeah, I kind of feel like we need to go back and start over and listen to our old episodes with

[00:09:23] like, oh, now I understand.

[00:09:26] And also it would give us an opportunity to answer the questions that I missed.

[00:09:31] Got it.

[00:09:32] You know that we had talked about.

[00:09:33] Yeah.

[00:09:34] So I will the way we should do that.

[00:09:35] We should do it as a video podcast.

[00:09:37] Oh, my God.

[00:09:37] Yeah.

[00:09:37] And then it should be you and I silhouetted with our cat in the middle.

[00:09:42] So you're like mystery theater 3000 science theater sacrilegious discourse.

[00:09:48] Yeah.

[00:09:48] Yeah.

[00:09:48] Exactly.

[00:09:50] Mm hmm.

[00:09:50] So anyway, I was like, you do not get supplied with any information about what's coming so

[00:09:58] that your reaction can be genuine and off the cuff.

[00:10:02] And if you know what's coming, then you're not fresh.

[00:10:05] No, I know.

[00:10:06] And I agree with you.

[00:10:07] I do.

[00:10:08] I just I don't.

[00:10:10] Well, sometimes you forget to take off your editor hat and your podcaster hat.

[00:10:16] And, you know, you are here with me on the microphone.

[00:10:21] And this is what we're doing.

[00:10:23] Right.

[00:10:23] And you like forget which hat you're wearing for a minute.

[00:10:27] No, it's true.

[00:10:28] It's true.

[00:10:28] Yeah.

[00:10:28] We're not a refined finished product.

[00:10:31] We're bumbling through.

[00:10:33] Yeah.

[00:10:34] You know, travesty of a show.

[00:10:37] And you keep wanting to refine it.

[00:10:40] And I'm like, but that goes against everything that we stand for.

[00:10:45] Right.

[00:10:45] Our fans would hate us if we were if we were better.

[00:10:47] Right.

[00:10:49] We like weren't renowned at this point for being a goddamn mess.

[00:10:54] Unprofessional as fuck and not knowing what the hell we're doing.

[00:10:57] Right.

[00:10:57] So why change a thing that works?

[00:10:59] You know, right.

[00:11:00] Yeah.

[00:11:01] Besides, I would have to plan ahead just a little bit better.

[00:11:03] And I don't want to.

[00:11:06] All right.

[00:11:07] Carrying on.

[00:11:08] The book starts out using the story of whose heads unfaithful wife Gomer.

[00:11:13] Yeah.

[00:11:13] As a metaphor for the people of Israel's abandonment of Yahweh.

[00:11:17] Mm hmm.

[00:11:18] Mm hmm.

[00:11:18] Pull your way.

[00:11:19] Yeah.

[00:11:20] He's hitting in the corner.

[00:11:21] Always getting abandoned.

[00:11:22] The book dates back to around 760 ish to 720 ish BCE.

[00:11:28] Okay.

[00:11:28] And it's one of the oldest books of the Tanakh.

[00:11:32] Got it.

[00:11:32] Which we have talked about that before as well.

[00:11:34] Yeah.

[00:11:34] And there's there's definitely some like the themes.

[00:11:37] Yeah.

[00:11:38] Were odd in some places, especially like that.

[00:11:40] But the male references to Israel.

[00:11:45] Yeah.

[00:11:45] Were odd because throughout most of the rest of the Bible, it was referenced.

[00:11:49] Always a she.

[00:11:50] Yeah.

[00:11:51] Yeah.

[00:11:51] So that was one of the one of those things that caught me by surprise in this book.

[00:11:55] Same.

[00:11:55] And then also referring to Israel as Ephraim quite often.

[00:12:03] As Ephraim.

[00:12:04] Mm hmm.

[00:12:05] No.

[00:12:06] Mm hmm.

[00:12:06] They referred to Israel as Jacob.

[00:12:09] But Ephraim was the one tribe that was the leader of.

[00:12:13] They referred to them because they were the leader of Israel.

[00:12:18] They were the top tribe.

[00:12:20] It seemed like they were talking like they would say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:12:23] Ephraim is so bad.

[00:12:25] Right.

[00:12:26] They used Ephraim as a as a representation for Israel.

[00:12:30] But they didn't refer to Israel as Ephraim.

[00:12:32] Ephraim was a tribe.

[00:12:33] It just I don't know.

[00:12:35] It it seemed more I couldn't always get what was happening because they phrased it differently and they use different words.

[00:12:43] If I had to guess, Ephraim was probably the closest tribe to where Hosea or whoever was writing this was physically at the time.

[00:12:50] Yeah.

[00:12:50] So that's who they dealt with the most.

[00:12:51] So Ephraim was the one that they were talking to or not talking or arguing with or whatever.

[00:12:57] Yeah, that makes sense.

[00:12:59] So this book even predates the final recensions of the full Torah, the Pentateuch.

[00:13:05] So they were still stapling the Pentateuch together when these stories of Hosehead were floating around.

[00:13:12] Got it.

[00:13:13] OK, that's how old this shit is.

[00:13:14] And it shows.

[00:13:15] Yeah, I was like, what the fuck?

[00:13:17] Yeah.

[00:13:17] The book has a long history of formation and being passed from person to person.

[00:13:22] Transmission is what they call that.

[00:13:24] Right.

[00:13:24] Much like an STD.

[00:13:28] I'm sorry, STI.

[00:13:29] Oh, sure.

[00:13:30] Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:30] Right, right, right.

[00:13:31] Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:32] That's much less.

[00:13:34] That's pretty much what the Bible is, right?

[00:13:36] That's why I said it.

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:39] So I just find it very interesting that this book is like, yeah, this is the shit.

[00:13:46] And I'm like, but it's so old and dumb and it's as old as the other shit.

[00:13:53] But it's no less dumb than anything else.

[00:13:56] It is more dumb.

[00:13:57] It's look, it's more dumb than the Pentateuch because the Pentateuch like that is old school

[00:14:05] Judaism.

[00:14:07] OK, and I can like I can nod my head and say, OK, OK, but then you start getting this other

[00:14:14] stuff and I'm like, no, you don't really go.

[00:14:18] You're not part of that.

[00:14:21] Go away.

[00:14:22] I mean, they are, but it's not.

[00:14:25] I don't know.

[00:14:26] There.

[00:14:27] So there's there's there's levels of of togetherness.

[00:14:30] Right.

[00:14:31] And this was not really well put together.

[00:14:33] No.

[00:14:33] And it was just it was it was too much of one thing and not enough of other things that

[00:14:39] it just didn't really.

[00:14:40] I have a feeling cohesive.

[00:14:43] I have a feeling that the other minor profit stories are going to be very similar.

[00:14:48] And that's probably why they're minor profits.

[00:14:49] They're just going to be like little snippets from various places throughout.

[00:14:54] And it's like, but why couldn't we have stapled them together in the places where they belong?

[00:15:00] Right.

[00:15:00] Right.

[00:15:01] This is so dumb.

[00:15:02] Yeah.

[00:15:02] You know, I I just it's not logical and it's really offending my sensitivities.

[00:15:08] Sure.

[00:15:09] Because it's not how I would have done it.

[00:15:11] Right.

[00:15:12] Right.

[00:15:12] But there's a lot of things in the Bible that I wouldn't have done.

[00:15:14] Well, that is true.

[00:15:16] That is true.

[00:15:17] You're not wrong.

[00:15:17] Um, much of the opening material in oral form.

[00:15:22] So not oral sex, but, you know, oral discussion.

[00:15:26] Yes.

[00:15:27] As opposed to email.

[00:15:29] Right.

[00:15:29] Yeah, definitely not email.

[00:15:31] It does go back to Hosea himself.

[00:15:33] So, OK, there was a dude named Hosea.

[00:15:36] Yeah.

[00:15:37] Well, we did talk about this before that a lot of people think that there is a person named

[00:15:43] Hosea that wrote some of this up.

[00:15:44] But there is also as we went through some of the Q and A's, there has been stuff added

[00:15:49] to this story.

[00:15:49] Yes.

[00:15:50] Yes.

[00:15:50] So it's not strictly Hosea.

[00:15:52] No, that's what it says.

[00:15:53] Much of the opening material in oral form.

[00:15:57] So not specifically what was written down.

[00:15:59] OK, but like the general opening, the kind of the gist.

[00:16:05] Got it.

[00:16:05] Yeah.

[00:16:05] It goes back to him.

[00:16:06] OK.

[00:16:07] The latter collection of sayings and individual accounts, however, was probably done in Judah

[00:16:13] at a much later date.

[00:16:15] Got it.

[00:16:16] So they had today.

[00:16:17] They don't have a specific idea as to what those timeframes were.

[00:16:20] Nope.

[00:16:21] Nope.

[00:16:21] Just later.

[00:16:22] Got it.

[00:16:23] And that shows, too, because like in the in the first few chapters, we're talking about

[00:16:30] the fact that the Israelites were cheating on Yahweh and, you know, their kids were named

[00:16:40] after bad things.

[00:16:43] And that's sad.

[00:16:44] And so Hosehead needed to marry the whore Gomer.

[00:16:50] And then he needed to like forgive her just like God's going to do and all that.

[00:16:53] And like the whole thing was like this metaphorical story.

[00:16:56] Yeah.

[00:16:57] And then like the next chapter, like we got we read a few chapters of that.

[00:17:01] And then the next chapter was like, oh, we're not talking about that anymore.

[00:17:04] No warning.

[00:17:05] Yeah.

[00:17:06] And it was just, oh, we're going back to like old school fire and brimstone, but worse.

[00:17:11] Right.

[00:17:12] Like, what the fuck?

[00:17:13] Yeah.

[00:17:14] So, yeah, it's it's old stuff.

[00:17:16] All right.

[00:17:17] So let's talk a little bit about the prophet Hosehead, which we've talked about him before.

[00:17:22] Yeah.

[00:17:22] Obviously, this is his book.

[00:17:24] Right.

[00:17:24] He prophesied during the worst of Israel's history.

[00:17:27] The northern kingdoms decline and fall in the eighth century BCE.

[00:17:32] I take some issue with that because the Babylonian exile happened.

[00:17:36] And we're saying this is the worst of Israel's history.

[00:17:38] Well, it's when the northern kingdom, it was their decline and fall.

[00:17:43] Yeah.

[00:17:43] But they fell.

[00:17:44] The rest of what was Israel got scattered, smothered, covered, as you would say.

[00:17:49] Yes.

[00:17:49] But that's not the northern kingdom.

[00:17:51] This is the northern.

[00:17:53] All right.

[00:17:53] All right.

[00:17:54] All right.

[00:17:54] And I guess you're right.

[00:17:55] To be fair, none of them ever came back to their former tribe states.

[00:18:00] Right.

[00:18:00] So, yeah, that was pretty much the end of the northern kingdoms.

[00:18:03] Right.

[00:18:04] So, I mean.

[00:18:04] For all intents and purposes.

[00:18:06] The southern part, you know, they did have some shit, but they came back from it.

[00:18:10] Right.

[00:18:10] So, yeah, not as dark as being like swallowed altogether.

[00:18:13] Yeah.

[00:18:14] That's fair.

[00:18:14] That's fair.

[00:18:15] That's fair.

[00:18:15] The people's abandonment of faith was rampant, having turned away from God in order to serve

[00:18:20] both the calves of Jeroboam and the Canaanite gods Baal and Asherah.

[00:18:26] Now, I just want to point out one more time that the calves of Jeroboam or whatever were

[00:18:31] actually a, it was a type of Yahweh.

[00:18:35] An alternate practice and worship of Yahweh.

[00:18:37] Right.

[00:18:37] Right.

[00:18:37] Right.

[00:18:37] Yeah.

[00:18:38] Right.

[00:18:38] I did cover that at one point, which I still find fascinating as all hell.

[00:18:42] Yeah.

[00:18:43] Same here.

[00:18:44] But, but that was like, even back there was calves in the Bible.

[00:18:49] Yeah.

[00:18:49] With Aaron.

[00:18:50] Yeah.

[00:18:50] Back when Moses was around.

[00:18:52] Yeah.

[00:18:52] Right.

[00:18:52] And Aaron was a big character, right?

[00:18:54] Yeah.

[00:18:55] He comes down from the mountain and what is, what does Aaron have there?

[00:18:58] He's got a fucking golden calf.

[00:18:59] Yeah.

[00:18:59] Right.

[00:19:00] Yeah.

[00:19:00] So, obviously there was some sentiment that this God was, was in cahoots with this calf's

[00:19:08] calf idol.

[00:19:09] Yeah.

[00:19:09] Right.

[00:19:09] Yeah.

[00:19:09] But it was a separate idea that didn't truck with this sect of Judaism.

[00:19:16] It was.

[00:19:16] It was two different groups, two different tribes of Israelites arguing about how to

[00:19:23] properly worship whatever you want to call this God.

[00:19:26] Yeah.

[00:19:27] And some obviously thought that a calf should be included.

[00:19:31] Right.

[00:19:32] And obviously the other ones didn't and they kind of went out, but.

[00:19:36] Kind of is a very light word for what happened.

[00:19:40] Right.

[00:19:40] But yeah.

[00:19:40] Okay.

[00:19:41] Yeah.

[00:19:42] Yeah.

[00:19:43] What I find interesting is that in India, cows are holy creatures that you cannot eat.

[00:19:48] They are.

[00:19:49] So.

[00:19:49] To some.

[00:19:51] Right.

[00:19:51] There are many religions in India.

[00:19:52] No, you're right.

[00:19:53] You're right.

[00:19:53] I was, I was generalizing, but it's my understanding as a very, very ignorant American that cows

[00:20:01] are holy creatures in India.

[00:20:03] And that.

[00:20:03] Right.

[00:20:04] Generally speaking, like you, you don't rush them in the road.

[00:20:07] Like when you come to the, you're driving and a bunch of them walk in front of the road,

[00:20:12] you, you don't rush them because they're holy creatures.

[00:20:15] Right.

[00:20:15] You gotta let them pass and you can't strike them with your car.

[00:20:19] And yeah.

[00:20:20] Yeah.

[00:20:20] It's a, so I just looked it up just to make sure it's Hinduism.

[00:20:23] That is the ones that, that worship or, or find them sacred at least for cows.

[00:20:29] Yeah.

[00:20:29] So I, and I don't want to get into it more than that because I don't really know much

[00:20:32] more about that.

[00:20:33] I am actually very intrigued with Hinduism because there's so much going on over there.

[00:20:38] Right.

[00:20:38] And I would love to get into it at some point, but we're, we've got, we've got way too

[00:20:42] much just in Christianity and Judaism.

[00:20:44] Yeah.

[00:20:44] Yeah.

[00:20:44] I just have to believe that given the proximity that it's, it came from a similar source.

[00:20:50] Sure.

[00:20:51] It had to have.

[00:20:52] I mean, I think a lot of ideas in ancient times came from similar sources.

[00:20:56] They were, they were cows were, were something that fed and nourished a lot of people.

[00:21:03] Right.

[00:21:03] That, I mean, even in Genesis, they, they mentioned livestock as one of the first opening things.

[00:21:08] Right.

[00:21:08] So these, these animals that provided for these societies were really, really fucking important.

[00:21:16] Yeah.

[00:21:16] You know, and they don't have, it's, it's not separate from them.

[00:21:20] You know, at that time, like now when we eat a hamburger or whatever, or drink milk,

[00:21:25] it's completely.

[00:21:26] We don't see that cow ever.

[00:21:28] And there, unless you pass it in the country.

[00:21:30] There are people who don't tell their children that they're eating cow meat.

[00:21:34] Right.

[00:21:35] Like that's a cow you're putting in your mouth.

[00:21:37] Right.

[00:21:37] And then like the kid finds out in like middle school, oh my God, before they put it together.

[00:21:43] Yeah.

[00:21:43] And you know, then it's too late.

[00:21:44] They can't be vegetarian then.

[00:21:46] Back, back then they would have slaughtered it right there or even at the, the, the ceremony

[00:21:50] for their church or whatever, you know, like those are things that happened in front of

[00:21:53] everybody.

[00:21:54] Right.

[00:21:54] And, and as a matter of the normal course of a day.

[00:21:57] Mm hmm.

[00:21:57] So that stuff was very prevalent and important to them.

[00:22:02] Mm hmm.

[00:22:02] Anyway, that I'm done with that.

[00:22:04] Okay.

[00:22:05] Yeah.

[00:22:05] We can move along.

[00:22:07] Move along.

[00:22:09] Other sins followed besides, you know, all them worshiping of them cows and shit.

[00:22:14] Yeah.

[00:22:15] Um, the book claims that those other sins included homicide, perjury, theft, and sexual deviation.

[00:22:22] And I'm sure those things never happened in the other places.

[00:22:25] No, no, no.

[00:22:26] Just there.

[00:22:27] Mm hmm.

[00:22:27] Yep.

[00:22:28] Hosea declares that unless they repent of these sins, God will allow their nation to be

[00:22:33] destroyed.

[00:22:34] Right.

[00:22:34] He's going to, he's going to have them murdered for murdering people.

[00:22:37] Yeah.

[00:22:38] And kind of like when you spank a kid for them hitting somebody.

[00:22:41] And you say that there's, there's a, they say that these things were happening.

[00:22:46] Right.

[00:22:46] But in the book of Hosea where we, that we read, mostly the thing that he was complaining

[00:22:51] about was idol worship.

[00:22:52] Yeah.

[00:22:53] It wasn't these other things.

[00:22:54] The biggest hangup was idol worship.

[00:22:56] Yeah.

[00:22:56] And he was going to murder people because of idol worship.

[00:22:59] Because they were not worshiping him.

[00:23:01] Right.

[00:23:01] Now you can imply that because they're worshiping something like Baal or whatever, there might

[00:23:06] be child sacrifice going on.

[00:23:08] There might be murder things going on.

[00:23:10] There might be other things happening.

[00:23:11] But as far as the perjury and theft, that was not anything that, that was really brought

[00:23:16] up.

[00:23:16] I feel like that's just like, yeah, there were bad people.

[00:23:18] They probably did all these things.

[00:23:20] Sure.

[00:23:20] Right.

[00:23:20] Sure.

[00:23:20] Sure.

[00:23:21] Sure.

[00:23:21] Right.

[00:23:22] And I just wanted to point out one more time.

[00:23:24] Idols.

[00:23:25] Yes.

[00:23:25] That is what he's pissed off about.

[00:23:27] Idols, idols, idols.

[00:23:28] Yeah.

[00:23:28] Not me.

[00:23:29] Somebody else.

[00:23:30] That sucks.

[00:23:30] You're dead.

[00:23:31] Right.

[00:23:31] What?

[00:23:32] Yeah.

[00:23:32] Wow.

[00:23:32] That escalated quickly.

[00:23:34] And that is the biggest theme of why he punishes his people throughout the Bible.

[00:23:40] Yes.

[00:23:40] So far.

[00:23:41] So far.

[00:23:41] Yeah.

[00:23:42] Yeah.

[00:23:43] Hosea declares that, and oh, I already read that.

[00:23:45] Blah, blah, blah.

[00:23:46] Oh, he declares that unless they repent of these sins, that God will allow their nation

[00:23:51] to be destroyed, which is what happens.

[00:23:53] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:53] And the people will be taken into captivity by Assyria, which happens.

[00:23:58] Right.

[00:23:58] Yeah.

[00:23:58] And Assyria was the greatest nation of that time.

[00:24:01] Sure.

[00:24:02] The prophecy of Hosea centers on God's unending love towards a sinful Israel and God's agony

[00:24:11] over his people's betrayal.

[00:24:13] So he's like, oh, I'm so sad that I'm murdering you and letting your entire northern

[00:24:19] kingdom get swallowed up by these other cultures.

[00:24:21] I'm going to cry all night.

[00:24:23] Yeah.

[00:24:24] That I let that happen.

[00:24:25] It's no wonder that we have such a problem with Christians being so, they feel like they're

[00:24:33] shit on by everybody, right?

[00:24:34] Yeah.

[00:24:35] It's built into, like their God shits on them.

[00:24:38] Yeah.

[00:24:38] Right?

[00:24:39] They just think that their whole mentality is being shit on.

[00:24:42] Yeah.

[00:24:43] That's their whole existence.

[00:24:44] Well, okay.

[00:24:44] There's like the trope of the Jewish people have a guilty conscience, like much like Catholics

[00:24:55] have a guilty conscience.

[00:24:56] Like there's this whole trope that applies to both of them, right?

[00:24:59] Okay.

[00:25:00] They're like always feeling like that, A, their God is putting upon them and B, that

[00:25:08] everybody else is trying to get them and C, that, you know, they need to apologize preemptively.

[00:25:16] Right?

[00:25:16] Sure.

[00:25:16] Like that's a trope.

[00:25:17] Okay.

[00:25:19] The difference being that they're like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[00:25:23] Whereas the Christians are like, I'm put upon and that pisses me off and I'm going to punch

[00:25:27] you in the fucking eye.

[00:25:29] Right.

[00:25:30] Like, whoa, calm your tits there, Christians.

[00:25:32] Yeah.

[00:25:33] You know?

[00:25:33] Yeah.

[00:25:34] And that's the difference I see between the two is the reaction to the perceived built

[00:25:39] in.

[00:25:40] I want to take a step back because I think, you know, the part of you is right about the,

[00:25:44] um, the Catholic faith, but the, the, the strongest people that are kind of crappy to me online

[00:25:52] right now are actually Catholic.

[00:25:55] Oh yeah.

[00:25:56] There's a strong, there's a strong Christian nationalist thread.

[00:26:00] That's kind of weaving its way into the, the, the Catholic faith.

[00:26:04] It's interesting to me because growing up, I never knew people's religions or anything.

[00:26:10] And I never heard any, um, anti-Semitism or anything.

[00:26:15] Yeah.

[00:26:15] The first time I saw it in person, like I did not realize it was a thing that happened.

[00:26:20] Because I never saw it with my own eyes.

[00:26:22] I never heard people complaining about it.

[00:26:24] Right.

[00:26:25] It just, I didn't realize it was present.

[00:26:27] Yeah.

[00:26:28] And why, why would it be right?

[00:26:29] Right.

[00:26:29] It doesn't make sense to me.

[00:26:31] But okay.

[00:26:32] And then, um, the first time that I ever actually witnessed anti-Semitism in per in person,

[00:26:38] um, I belonged to a crafting group and the majority of the ladies there went to mass on

[00:26:45] Sundays and like, they were very, very involved in the Catholic church.

[00:26:49] Right.

[00:26:50] And I don't remember who in particular they were discussing.

[00:26:54] It was probably a political figure.

[00:26:57] Sure.

[00:26:57] And the two ladies that were running the group, they just threw it out.

[00:27:04] Like it was nothing like, well, they are Jewish.

[00:27:07] Right.

[00:27:08] And I like my jaw just like dropped.

[00:27:10] Like I had never, and I was like, oh, that's what that is.

[00:27:16] I didn't know.

[00:27:18] And like after that, um, cause yes, shamefully I did keep attending the craft session.

[00:27:23] I mean, it was a great craft.

[00:27:24] I'm just, I'm just saying, um, it, and it wasn't long for the world after that the group

[00:27:31] did fizzle out.

[00:27:32] Right.

[00:27:32] But, um, as I went after that and politics were getting more and more heated at the time,

[00:27:39] I started hearing it more and more and more.

[00:27:43] And that's when I realized that, oh my God, this is a thing.

[00:27:47] Like this actually is a thing.

[00:27:49] And I, I could not wrap my brain around it.

[00:27:52] Like, yeah.

[00:27:54] Um, Christians pretend that they love Judaism when it behooves them to do so because they

[00:28:03] hate the Muslims more than the Jews, but Catholics are just straight up.

[00:28:09] No, we just don't like Jews at all.

[00:28:11] And I'm like, holy shit.

[00:28:12] All y'all.

[00:28:13] Right.

[00:28:13] Like y'all are all nasty.

[00:28:15] Yeah.

[00:28:16] Wow.

[00:28:16] And like, when you see the, um, the boys in khaki with their like little light posts

[00:28:23] and they're screaming, Jews will not replace us.

[00:28:25] I'm always like, you're all, what, what are you?

[00:28:30] Who are you?

[00:28:31] Right.

[00:28:31] Where did you come from?

[00:28:32] How did that happen?

[00:28:34] What?

[00:28:35] Yeah.

[00:28:35] I don't understand.

[00:28:37] I don't like who's trying to replace what?

[00:28:40] Who?

[00:28:41] I don't, I don't understand.

[00:28:42] Like, okay.

[00:28:43] You're all men or young men boys and you're all wearing khakis.

[00:28:49] So, you know, y'all went shopping together.

[00:28:51] So you have friends and you're all screaming about being replaced.

[00:28:56] But I'm like, but you're white though.

[00:28:58] Nobody's replacing you.

[00:28:59] You're literally at the top of the chain.

[00:29:02] It's really easy to inspire through hate.

[00:29:05] It's, it's, it's just, it's, that's, that's why that, that is, that is the entire reason

[00:29:11] hate sells.

[00:29:13] And you know, it's, it's one of the, the biggest downfalls of our society right now, because

[00:29:20] that it's, it's becoming more and more prevalent that people are pitching hate because they know

[00:29:25] that it will sell click bait.

[00:29:28] Oh yeah.

[00:29:28] Yeah.

[00:29:29] Feelings.

[00:29:29] Yeah.

[00:29:30] Yeah.

[00:29:30] I mean, we have whole news, you know, stations dedicated to hate.

[00:29:34] So news in quotes.

[00:29:35] Right.

[00:29:36] Yeah.

[00:29:36] In quotes.

[00:29:37] Because in court, they are not, they admit that they are not news.

[00:29:41] So I have to put that in quotes.

[00:29:43] Definitely.

[00:29:44] So Hosea prophesied over the course of around 66 years, um, from 790 to about 724 BCE and

[00:29:53] thus served eight years in the reign of Jeroboam, 33 years in the reign of Uzziah, the whole

[00:30:00] reigns of both Jotham and Ahaz, and three years in the reign of Hezekiah.

[00:30:05] Okay.

[00:30:06] So he had a lot of kings come and go in his lifetime.

[00:30:08] Yeah.

[00:30:09] He would not, however, have survived the taking of Samaria and Hosea's message and did influence

[00:30:15] later prophets such as Jeremiah.

[00:30:17] Got it.

[00:30:18] Okay.

[00:30:18] Yep.

[00:30:19] All right.

[00:30:20] Now we get into, um, I created this legend, um, and there's four keys.

[00:30:27] Okay.

[00:30:28] Okay.

[00:30:28] There's a devil face, which when I put that at the end of a note means God is saying,

[00:30:34] I'm gonna getcha.

[00:30:36] Okay.

[00:30:36] Yeah.

[00:30:36] There's a Pinocchio nose, which means someday I'll love you, but this is not that day.

[00:30:43] There's a sad face with a tear.

[00:30:45] And that means y'all fucking suck.

[00:30:47] Hmm.

[00:30:48] That happened a lot.

[00:30:49] And then there's a heart that says blessings upon you right fucking now.

[00:30:53] Those were usually at the end of the chapter.

[00:30:54] Yeah.

[00:30:55] Yeah.

[00:30:55] All right.

[00:30:56] So chapter one gets a Pinocchio.

[00:30:58] That was the someday I'll love you, but this is not that day.

[00:31:02] Right.

[00:31:02] Okay.

[00:31:02] Chapter one was God instructs Hosea to marry a prostitute, Gomer, as a symbolic act of

[00:31:08] Israel's unfaithfulness to him.

[00:31:10] Hosea and Gomer have three children, each given symbolic names reflecting God's judgment on

[00:31:15] Israel.

[00:31:15] And then he finishes out the chapter by telling them, like, you, you kind of suck, but there's

[00:31:21] a remnant.

[00:31:22] I'll save some of you.

[00:31:24] Okay.

[00:31:24] So moving into chapter two, I have three faces here.

[00:31:28] Okay.

[00:31:29] Okay.

[00:31:29] I've got y'all fucking suck.

[00:31:32] I'm going to get you.

[00:31:33] I'm going to get you.

[00:31:33] And, oh, someday I'll love you, but this is not that day.

[00:31:37] Okay.

[00:31:38] Chapter two is God outlines Israel's infidelity through metaphors of Gomer's adultery.

[00:31:44] And he again punishes or threatens punishment.

[00:31:47] Yeah.

[00:31:47] Okay.

[00:31:47] Yeah.

[00:31:47] So just give me.

[00:31:49] It's a, it's a, it's a thing.

[00:31:50] It's a thing.

[00:31:51] I mean, those were the four things that appeared throughout these chapters.

[00:31:54] Right.

[00:31:55] Yeah.

[00:31:55] It's a theme.

[00:31:56] And I decided going forward, I'm going to carry these, these little things to help me

[00:32:02] more easily categorize.

[00:32:04] Yeah.

[00:32:05] Oh, this chapter was where he hated them again.

[00:32:07] We should, we should have like a tally in the, in the episode notes that shows like how

[00:32:12] many of these we had and how many of that.

[00:32:14] Yeah.

[00:32:14] I agree.

[00:32:15] I agree.

[00:32:15] Right.

[00:32:16] All right.

[00:32:17] Chapter three is a Pinocchio, which is someday I'll love you, but this is not that

[00:32:24] day.

[00:32:25] God tells Hosea to love Gomer again, despite her infidelity, which is supposed to mirror

[00:32:30] God's continued love for Israel.

[00:32:31] Hmm.

[00:32:32] Hosea redeems her signifying God's plan to redeem Israel after a period of separation.

[00:32:39] Yeah.

[00:32:39] And he's like, Oh, Israel, you done been fucking up, but you're so cute.

[00:32:45] One day you'll be good.

[00:32:46] Yeah.

[00:32:46] We just need to take a break.

[00:32:47] Yeah.

[00:32:47] I might love you someday.

[00:32:49] Okay.

[00:32:49] So number four, I have two of the, um, uh, icons.

[00:32:55] Um, we've got the sad face y'all fucking suck.

[00:32:58] And then we've got the devil face, which is I'm a fucking getcha.

[00:33:02] I'm a getcha.

[00:33:03] Yeah.

[00:33:04] Okay.

[00:33:04] So chapter four was God brings charges against Israel, accusing the people of lacking faithfulness,

[00:33:12] love and knowledge of him.

[00:33:14] I'm going to tell you, you need to keep track of that word.

[00:33:16] Knowledge.

[00:33:17] No knowledge of him.

[00:33:18] Well, yeah, we talked about that a lot because how could they write knowledge of him?

[00:33:24] I'm giving you a hint though about a question that may or may not come up on the pop quiz

[00:33:29] tomorrow.

[00:33:30] Which we're doing tomorrow.

[00:33:31] Yeah.

[00:33:31] Yeah.

[00:33:32] All right.

[00:33:32] Um, the land suffers land suffers as a result of their sin with widespread idolatry and immorality.

[00:33:41] Priests and leaders are also held accountable for leading the people astray, which is kind

[00:33:47] of cool.

[00:33:47] At least, you know, he's not just yelling at the bottom tier.

[00:33:50] He's also yelling at those at the top.

[00:33:52] So yeah, I guess I still doesn't sit well with me, but well, chapter five has the same

[00:33:59] theme as the previous chapter.

[00:34:02] Oh, I might love you one day, but this is not that day.

[00:34:05] Y'all fucking suck.

[00:34:06] I'm gonna getcha.

[00:34:07] Right.

[00:34:08] Okay.

[00:34:08] Yeah.

[00:34:09] God announces judgment on Israel and Judah for their pride, idolatry and reliance on foreign

[00:34:14] alliances instead of him.

[00:34:17] Like how dare you turn to Egypt and Assyria motherfuckers for necessity so that you try not

[00:34:24] to get, you know, demolished.

[00:34:25] Right.

[00:34:26] How dare you get squished in the cleavage of these two great mighty breasticle nations?

[00:34:32] I think it's I think it's kind of funny, not funny, but the they complain a lot throughout

[00:34:40] Hosea about how they cheated people and did different things and how they were really rich.

[00:34:46] But none of that matters when they got taken over anyway.

[00:34:48] Right.

[00:34:49] Right.

[00:34:49] I don't know.

[00:34:49] It just struck me that way.

[00:34:51] So they seek help from Assyria, which makes sense, but it will not save them.

[00:34:57] Womp womp.

[00:34:58] The chapter ends with God withdrawing from them until they earnestly seek his face.

[00:35:03] He's like, I'm not coming back till you love me again.

[00:35:06] And they're like, bitch, bye.

[00:35:07] I mean, yeah, it basically never happens the way he wants it to.

[00:35:10] So.

[00:35:11] Right.

[00:35:12] So chapter six is the sad phase, which is, again, y'all fucking suck.

[00:35:18] OK.

[00:35:18] Yeah.

[00:35:19] Israel expresses a desire to return to the Lord.

[00:35:22] But God responds that their repentance is superficial, like morning mist, which is interesting because we liked the word do.

[00:35:30] Right.

[00:35:31] Right.

[00:35:31] In our reading.

[00:35:32] Yeah.

[00:35:33] But this.

[00:35:33] And then later, God.

[00:35:35] Mm hmm.

[00:35:35] Do is good.

[00:35:36] Do is good.

[00:35:37] Do is good.

[00:35:37] Yeah.

[00:35:37] Do.

[00:35:38] God did.

[00:35:39] He did the do.

[00:35:40] Yeah.

[00:35:40] Yeah.

[00:35:41] He desires steadfast love, our God and perpetual fear of God rather than the sacrifices and offerings of a people's shallow faith.

[00:35:50] Mm hmm.

[00:35:51] Yeah.

[00:35:52] All right.

[00:35:52] Chapter seven.

[00:35:53] I have to stop you there.

[00:35:54] Yeah.

[00:35:54] Yeah.

[00:35:54] That's still a theme today.

[00:35:56] Mm hmm.

[00:35:56] People love to be like, well, those just aren't real Christians.

[00:36:00] Yeah.

[00:36:01] They they don't believe correctly.

[00:36:03] Mm hmm.

[00:36:03] You know?

[00:36:04] Yeah.

[00:36:04] So there's like two camps.

[00:36:06] You're either like not at all on board or you're not a real Christian or a real worshiper of whatever God.

[00:36:12] Mm hmm.

[00:36:13] Like you just don't believe strongly enough or you don't believe at all.

[00:36:17] Either way, you suck worse than I do.

[00:36:19] Sure.

[00:36:20] Yeah.

[00:36:20] And I'm always the best.

[00:36:22] I'm always the best whoever I happen to be.

[00:36:24] Right.

[00:36:24] And then it disallows you from arguing with them because they're like, yeah, I don't care what that person said.

[00:36:30] They suck.

[00:36:30] You've already been dismissed.

[00:36:32] Oh, well, OK.

[00:36:33] So you you there is no information that you will take in that's going to mean anything to you other than what you already know.

[00:36:40] Yeah.

[00:36:40] It's like they've stuck their fingers in their ears and went, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:36:44] I can't hear you.

[00:36:45] Essentially, that's it.

[00:36:46] Yeah.

[00:36:46] Yeah.

[00:36:46] And it's rather childish and silly, but it's also like, OK, I I can accept that then I will move on from you.

[00:36:54] Yeah.

[00:36:54] It is absolutely childish.

[00:36:55] Right.

[00:36:56] Yeah.

[00:36:56] All right.

[00:36:57] Hosea seven is the same thing.

[00:36:59] Y'all fucking suck.

[00:37:01] God condemns Israel for their ongoing wickedness, including lying, deceit and alliances with foreign nations.

[00:37:08] Oh, not that.

[00:37:09] Yeah.

[00:37:09] Despite their suffering, they were fused to turn to God.

[00:37:13] Their hearts are compared to an overheated oven inflamed by their sinful passions and political intrigue.

[00:37:19] And then I added what a pancake.

[00:37:24] Chapter eight is y'all fucking suck.

[00:37:26] I'm going to get you.

[00:37:27] OK.

[00:37:28] All right.

[00:37:28] Right.

[00:37:29] Israel's rebellion leads to judgment as they have set up kings without God's approval and worshiped idols, particularly the calf idol in Samaria.

[00:37:39] God warns that they will reap the whirlwind, a metaphor for the chaos their actions will bring.

[00:37:45] Right.

[00:37:45] Their trust in foreign alliances and false gods will lead to their destruction.

[00:37:49] And then it does.

[00:37:51] Sure.

[00:37:51] Sure.

[00:37:51] I again did these prophets know these things are happening.

[00:37:56] Yeah.

[00:37:56] Like it's not a political.

[00:37:58] Yeah.

[00:37:59] It's politics.

[00:38:00] It's written on the fucking walls, you know?

[00:38:02] Mm hmm.

[00:38:03] So this chapter, chapter nine, we have a little bit of a switch instead of the previous two chapters were y'all fucking suck.

[00:38:12] I'm going to get you.

[00:38:13] Now it's I'm going to get you.

[00:38:15] Y'all fucking suck.

[00:38:18] God declares that Israel will face exile because of their sin, particularly their unfaithfulness and worship and failure to recognize his blessings.

[00:38:27] The people's religious festivals will cease and they will experience barrenness and loss.

[00:38:33] Oh, no.

[00:38:34] Judgment is coming and they will return to slavery in Egypt and Assyria.

[00:38:38] I see.

[00:38:39] OK.

[00:38:40] Chapter 10.

[00:38:41] We're back to the standard formula.

[00:38:43] Y'all fucking suck.

[00:38:44] I'm going to get you.

[00:38:46] Israel is compared to a luxuriant vine that produces fruit for itself, symbolizing their selfishness and idolatry.

[00:38:54] Oh, yeah.

[00:38:55] Don't grow things for yourself.

[00:38:56] That would be horrible.

[00:38:57] Fucking wine.

[00:38:58] Right.

[00:38:58] Grape vines.

[00:39:00] As you're drinking wine.

[00:39:01] I know.

[00:39:01] That is kind of funny.

[00:39:03] God will break down their altars and sacred stones as part of his judgment.

[00:39:08] The chapter ends with a call to sow righteousness and seek the Lord.

[00:39:13] Yeah.

[00:39:14] But the people continue to trust in their own strength.

[00:39:17] Oh, no.

[00:39:18] They trust in whatever they need to trust in.

[00:39:21] Sure.

[00:39:21] Because survival is probably pretty paramount to them.

[00:39:25] You know, I would imagine.

[00:39:27] Living is kind of good.

[00:39:28] I enjoy living.

[00:39:30] Right.

[00:39:30] And I can't imagine that in those days, 3000 whatever years ago, that life was real easy.

[00:39:38] Yeah.

[00:39:39] It was probably pretty fucking hard.

[00:39:41] So.

[00:39:41] All right.

[00:39:42] Well, chapter 11, we have a Pinocchio nose.

[00:39:46] Yeah.

[00:39:46] Remember what that one is?

[00:39:48] God says he's going to love him someday or something like that.

[00:39:51] But this is not that day.

[00:39:52] That's not that day.

[00:39:52] Yeah.

[00:39:53] But also, it's because y'all fucking suck.

[00:39:56] Right.

[00:39:57] God recalls his tender love for Israel.

[00:40:00] My endless love.

[00:40:03] I just, he keeps referring to this love that he had for them.

[00:40:07] Right?

[00:40:07] It's like the, it's like the MAGA crowd, make America great again.

[00:40:11] When was that?

[00:40:13] Right.

[00:40:13] Exactly.

[00:40:14] Which exact timeframe?

[00:40:16] When did that happen?

[00:40:17] Right.

[00:40:17] Because I want to know which, which decade, you know.

[00:40:23] What was the pretty one?

[00:40:24] The mystery, whatever he would, when are you talking about?

[00:40:26] When did you love them?

[00:40:27] Right.

[00:40:28] Or is it just always love mixed with hate?

[00:40:30] Because that's how it feels.

[00:40:31] It feels like you constantly have them teetering on this, you know, precipice of, you know,

[00:40:38] hate and love.

[00:40:39] Precipice.

[00:40:40] Precipice.

[00:40:41] Sorry.

[00:40:41] Yeah.

[00:40:41] I said that completely wrong.

[00:40:42] Yeah.

[00:40:43] That thing.

[00:40:44] Cliff edge.

[00:40:45] Yeah.

[00:40:47] But they're always, they're always right there.

[00:40:49] It's always love, hate, love, hate, love, hate.

[00:40:51] They're like one, six feet from the edge.

[00:40:55] And how's that song going?

[00:40:57] I know.

[00:40:58] I knew what you were getting at, but I don't remember exactly how it goes.

[00:41:02] So.

[00:41:03] I think it's Nickelback too.

[00:41:04] Probably is.

[00:41:04] Which is funny.

[00:41:05] So.

[00:41:05] All right.

[00:41:06] So that was 11.

[00:41:07] Now we move on to chapter 12.

[00:41:10] And that one is, I will love you one day, but this is not that day.

[00:41:15] Cause you fucking suck.

[00:41:17] Okay.

[00:41:17] God rebukes Israel for their deceit and reliance on foreign nations.

[00:41:21] Again, some more always.

[00:41:23] Yeah.

[00:41:23] Using Jacob's story as a contrast.

[00:41:25] Remember Jacob?

[00:41:26] I do.

[00:41:27] He calls Israel to return to the Lord and practice love and justice.

[00:41:32] Ephra is denounced for dishonesty and business and idol worship leading to inevitable punishment.

[00:41:39] Yeah.

[00:41:40] I mean, it seems that's always the case.

[00:41:42] Yeah.

[00:41:43] Well, here we go again.

[00:41:45] Okay.

[00:41:45] Chapter 13.

[00:41:47] I will love you someday, but this is not that day.

[00:41:50] Cause you fucking suck.

[00:41:51] Right.

[00:41:52] God recalls Israel's past faithfulness and how they prospered.

[00:41:57] But now in their arrogance, they've forgotten him.

[00:41:59] Whomp, whomp.

[00:42:00] Yeah.

[00:42:01] Poor God, he got God.

[00:42:02] They turned to idols, which leads to their downfall.

[00:42:05] The chapter ends with a vivid description of the coming judgment.

[00:42:10] Yeah.

[00:42:10] Is that the one that had the, I can't remember if that was the one that had that, where they

[00:42:15] ripped open people and kids against, you know, I'm not, I'm not too visual into it, but

[00:42:20] okay.

[00:42:20] Yeah.

[00:42:21] Yes.

[00:42:21] That was, that was pretty terrible.

[00:42:22] And well, I mean, God tells them that he will destroy them like a lion or leopard and how,

[00:42:28] you know?

[00:42:29] Yeah.

[00:42:29] And then last chapter of the book, we end strong with a, I will love you someday, but today is

[00:42:36] not that day.

[00:42:37] Right.

[00:42:38] And that, it was actually right.

[00:42:40] It was, it ended on a, a note of, of hope ish.

[00:42:45] As long as you worship God the way that God wants you to worship him.

[00:42:48] Yeah.

[00:42:49] Right.

[00:42:50] Which never happens.

[00:42:51] Right.

[00:42:52] Ever.

[00:42:52] Cause who the fuck can worship somebody the way you want them to worship him if he doesn't

[00:42:56] talk to anybody and he only talks to like some random dude.

[00:42:59] Right.

[00:43:00] That makes no fucking sense.

[00:43:01] It makes no fucking sense.

[00:43:03] The final chapter offers a message of hope and repentance.

[00:43:07] God calls Israel to return to him with sincere hearts.

[00:43:10] And in return, he promises healing, love and restoration.

[00:43:14] Yeah.

[00:43:15] The chapter concludes with an invitation for those who are wise to understand God's ways,

[00:43:20] which lead to life and blessing.

[00:43:22] But we know that doesn't happen.

[00:43:24] They die.

[00:43:24] Right.

[00:43:25] And moreover, you don't get judged individually.

[00:43:28] You get judged based on your king and the people that are in charge and whatever your

[00:43:31] society at the time is doing because he'll destroy a whole swath of people because that

[00:43:37] group of people doesn't worship him the way he wants them to.

[00:43:40] And yes, he will redeem some of them.

[00:43:42] But even then, he says sometimes, depending on which prophet we're talking about, that

[00:43:47] they didn't necessarily deserve to be redeemed.

[00:43:50] He's just changing their hearts and going to send them back to whatever.

[00:43:52] Yeah.

[00:43:53] He's all kinds of fucked up and wrong.

[00:43:54] And if you're women, children or slaves, you have very little choice in who you worship,

[00:44:01] when and how.

[00:44:03] Right.

[00:44:03] Right.

[00:44:03] Like you're fucked.

[00:44:05] Yeah.

[00:44:06] So one thing that always struck me with religion is that and this is this is something that

[00:44:11] made me think about the reasons for religion and and made me not want to pursue it.

[00:44:18] Right.

[00:44:18] And that's that religion seems to always hit people at their lowest point.

[00:44:23] Right.

[00:44:24] Like that's that's one of those things where, you know, even even just individually, people

[00:44:29] will come up with someone who is downtrodden and be like, have you have you thought have

[00:44:32] you read the Bible today?

[00:44:33] Have you thought about Jesus today?

[00:44:35] You know, I'm really praying for you.

[00:44:37] You know, these are things they the Christians in our society, they pray on the downtrodden.

[00:44:43] Yeah.

[00:44:44] Because they know that's that's the time to hit them.

[00:44:46] Yeah.

[00:44:47] Right.

[00:44:47] And more than that, it's it's built into systems like a example.

[00:44:53] Right.

[00:44:53] It's a 12 step program that involves God.

[00:44:55] Now, it's not necessarily the Christian God, but there is a lot of, you know, the majority

[00:45:02] of them actually are.

[00:45:03] Right.

[00:45:03] The majority of them are the Christian guys.

[00:45:06] It doesn't have to be the Christian God.

[00:45:08] Right.

[00:45:09] Anyway, that but they they take people when they are at their lowest and they institute these

[00:45:13] things to indoctrinate them either back in or in for the first time into these systems

[00:45:18] that then create a new follower.

[00:45:21] Mm hmm.

[00:45:22] And why?

[00:45:23] Why wouldn't you take the person who is succeeding and say, oh, God must be treating you right

[00:45:28] because they don't give a fuck.

[00:45:30] Right.

[00:45:30] Right.

[00:45:31] They don't they're not going to see it because it doesn't have any like I'm doing just fine.

[00:45:36] What do you mean?

[00:45:36] God did this for me.

[00:45:38] Yeah.

[00:45:38] Yeah.

[00:45:39] Right.

[00:45:39] I work hard to get where I'm at kind of thing.

[00:45:42] Right.

[00:45:42] But you don't go up to the person who's downtrodden and say, well, God punished you because you

[00:45:46] must have fucking deserved it.

[00:45:47] I mean, that's not what they say.

[00:45:48] Unless it's, you know, the hurricane victims or.

[00:45:52] Right.

[00:45:52] No.

[00:45:52] Yeah.

[00:45:53] We had that chat in our special episode.

[00:45:55] But but generally on an individual basis, you don't go up to the downtrodden person and

[00:45:59] say you must suck.

[00:46:00] God must have punished you on purpose.

[00:46:02] Right.

[00:46:02] Generally.

[00:46:03] Right.

[00:46:03] You try to take that person and say there's hope in God.

[00:46:06] Right.

[00:46:07] And that's how they draw them in.

[00:46:08] Mm hmm.

[00:46:09] It's not.

[00:46:10] It just it's it's very nefarious, in my opinion, on how that whole thing works insidious.

[00:46:18] Yeah.

[00:46:18] Yeah.

[00:46:19] I agree.

[00:46:20] Anyway, that was that was all I had there.

[00:46:22] That's all I had there.

[00:46:23] You got anything else to add?

[00:46:24] No, fuck hose head.

[00:46:25] All right.

[00:46:25] So that was our wrap up for the book of Hosea.

[00:46:30] Mm hmm.

[00:46:30] We have one more episode of Hosea left, though.

[00:46:33] Well, unless you count the weekly wrap up.

[00:46:36] Oh, well, yeah.

[00:46:36] So but I never do.

[00:46:37] Right.

[00:46:38] So we're not we're not part of that.

[00:46:40] That right.

[00:46:41] That's just a it's just a gathering of all of our episodes for the week.

[00:46:44] We are together speaking into the microphone one more time.

[00:46:49] Yes.

[00:46:50] On the book of Hosea.

[00:46:51] Are.

[00:46:51] And that will be our you're always wrong or contradictions episode.

[00:46:57] And we will have a little pop quiz on the end.

[00:46:59] We sure will.

[00:47:00] Mm hmm.

[00:47:00] And then we'll be done with Hosea.

[00:47:02] I will have, you know, I got a sixty one percent.

[00:47:04] Oh, I got something to shoot for now.

[00:47:06] Sure do.

[00:47:07] The average is sixty four.

[00:47:08] So damn, you went below the average.

[00:47:10] I sure as fuck did.

[00:47:11] Holy shit.

[00:47:12] Yeah.

[00:47:13] Yeah.

[00:47:14] Here's the thing.

[00:47:15] There's eleven questions and the ones I knew I really fucking knew.

[00:47:19] Yeah.

[00:47:19] And the other ones I either really fucking knew it or I had no goddamn idea.

[00:47:24] Got it.

[00:47:25] Like there was no in between.

[00:47:26] OK.

[00:47:26] So good luck, sir.

[00:47:28] Well, thanks for joining us again, everybody.

[00:47:30] And we will see you tomorrow.

[00:47:32] Yep.

[00:47:33] Bye.

[00:47:39] Wife.

[00:47:40] Guess what we're doing now.

[00:47:41] We are finishing finishing up Hosea.

[00:47:44] Mm hmm.

[00:47:45] And and so tonight I'm going to be right.

[00:47:48] Nope.

[00:47:48] Because you're always wrong.

[00:47:51] Fuck.

[00:47:51] Yep.

[00:47:51] All right.

[00:47:52] Well, so we're doing our contradictions episode and a pop quiz.

[00:47:56] Yeah.

[00:47:56] So you got some good contradictions for us tonight.

[00:48:00] Yeah, I have seven.

[00:48:02] Seven contradictions.

[00:48:03] Mm hmm.

[00:48:04] That's life.

[00:48:04] But it was a short book, too.

[00:48:06] There were more, but a couple of them didn't apply because.

[00:48:10] Right.

[00:48:10] They're just boring.

[00:48:12] Well, they only had New Testament stuff that we hadn't.

[00:48:15] Right.

[00:48:15] It was Hosea on one side and then.

[00:48:18] Jesus on the other.

[00:48:19] Yeah.

[00:48:19] Yeah.

[00:48:19] OK.

[00:48:20] And I was like, we're not there yet.

[00:48:21] Right.

[00:48:21] So those don't count.

[00:48:22] And then there were a couple that we had talked about before that we were like, that's not

[00:48:28] really.

[00:48:28] Yeah.

[00:48:29] That doesn't apply.

[00:48:30] No, I mean, we're trying to be fair ish.

[00:48:33] Yes.

[00:48:33] You know, in our contradiction episodes.

[00:48:35] Mm hmm.

[00:48:35] So we were leaving out some of the more dumb ones, basically.

[00:48:39] And we've talked about them before.

[00:48:40] So, I mean, sometimes I include them just as a reminder of.

[00:48:44] They can get a bit repetitive.

[00:48:45] Mm hmm.

[00:48:45] Mm hmm.

[00:48:45] It's much like the Bible.

[00:48:47] Right.

[00:48:48] You know, kind of like how God hate loves that everybody, but mostly hates.

[00:48:52] All right.

[00:48:53] Well, you ready to do this?

[00:48:54] Sure as fuck am.

[00:48:55] Let's do it.

[00:48:56] Okie dokie.

[00:49:03] All right.

[00:49:03] We're getting into our your always wrong contradictions episode.

[00:49:09] All right.

[00:49:09] Followed by a pop quiz.

[00:49:10] Yeah.

[00:49:11] Yeah.

[00:49:11] Yeah.

[00:49:12] Right.

[00:49:12] Right.

[00:49:13] I love hose head.

[00:49:16] You lie.

[00:49:17] I do.

[00:49:18] I'm a liar.

[00:49:19] All right.

[00:49:20] Are you ready for the question?

[00:49:21] I am ready.

[00:49:22] Number one husband.

[00:49:23] Yes, wife.

[00:49:24] Is it OK to drink alcohol?

[00:49:26] You have three choices.

[00:49:28] Oh, fuck.

[00:49:28] I'm sick of answering this question.

[00:49:30] I know.

[00:49:30] Yeah.

[00:49:31] Your first choice is depends who you are.

[00:49:34] And your second one is absolutely not.

[00:49:37] And your third one is sure.

[00:49:38] Whatever.

[00:49:39] Wine is fucking awesome.

[00:49:40] I'm going to go with what I want.

[00:49:42] And that's sure.

[00:49:43] Whatever.

[00:49:43] Wine is fucking awesome.

[00:49:44] OK.

[00:49:45] Yeah.

[00:49:45] Yeah.

[00:49:46] There's quite a few that support that from Genesis, Deuteronomy, Judges, Proverbs,

[00:49:52] First Chronicles, Ecclesiastes and Lamentations.

[00:49:55] Sure.

[00:49:55] So let me read a couple of these that say, yeah.

[00:49:57] Yeah.

[00:49:58] Wine is great.

[00:49:59] OK.

[00:50:00] All right.

[00:50:00] May God give thee of the dew of heaven and the fatness of the earth and plenty of corn

[00:50:06] and wine.

[00:50:06] There he goes comparing them to do again.

[00:50:08] Do do.

[00:50:09] I'm just saying.

[00:50:09] And that's from Genesis.

[00:50:11] Yeah.

[00:50:11] Thou shall eat before the Lord thy God, the tithe of thy corn and thy wine.

[00:50:16] That's from Deuteronomy.

[00:50:18] OK.

[00:50:19] Wine which cheereth God in men.

[00:50:21] I feel like that should be like a slogan for a.

[00:50:24] A shirt?

[00:50:24] No.

[00:50:25] Wine company.

[00:50:26] Which cheereth God in men.

[00:50:28] Yeah.

[00:50:28] It's pretty good.

[00:50:29] It is pretty good.

[00:50:30] Yeah.

[00:50:30] It's from Judges.

[00:50:32] Drink of the wine which I have mingled.

[00:50:34] That's from Proverbs.

[00:50:36] Hmm.

[00:50:36] I always mingle my wine.

[00:50:38] Yeah.

[00:50:39] I don't know if I want the God mingled wine.

[00:50:40] Right.

[00:50:40] But you know, hey.

[00:50:41] And this is one I really, really like.

[00:50:44] Uh huh.

[00:50:44] I'm skipping a couple because you know, I got enough here.

[00:50:47] Right.

[00:50:47] Um, this one's from Lamentations.

[00:50:49] Ready?

[00:50:49] Mm-hmm.

[00:50:50] Rejoice and be glad, oh daughter of Edom.

[00:50:53] Thou shalt be drunken and shalt make thyself naked.

[00:50:57] Wow.

[00:50:58] Mm.

[00:50:59] Man, they're having a good old time there, huh?

[00:51:01] Yeah.

[00:51:01] Yeah.

[00:51:02] But guess what, husband?

[00:51:03] I'm, I'm, I'm right.

[00:51:05] You're always wrong.

[00:51:07] Ah.

[00:51:08] Okay, so now your choices are, depends who you are.

[00:51:12] Or, absolutely not.

[00:51:13] I'm going to go with depends who you are.

[00:51:14] Okay.

[00:51:14] Well, um, not when you're going to church, according to Leviticus, do not drink wine nor strong drink

[00:51:21] thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the fucking tabernacle of the congregation,

[00:51:27] lest ye die.

[00:51:28] Whoa.

[00:51:29] That's pretty strong.

[00:51:30] Words after they just got naked and drank wine.

[00:51:32] It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations.

[00:51:35] Huh.

[00:51:35] Yeah.

[00:51:36] Just so you know.

[00:51:37] Okay.

[00:51:38] So not when you're going to church.

[00:51:39] Except for like the other times when it wasn't.

[00:51:40] Well, and except if you're Catholic and you drink wine as the blood of Christ.

[00:51:44] Right.

[00:51:44] Yeah.

[00:51:45] I mean.

[00:51:46] Not that wine.

[00:51:47] Yeah.

[00:51:47] That's symbolic.

[00:51:48] We didn't mean it there, just the other forever.

[00:51:50] The other forever.

[00:51:51] Yeah.

[00:51:53] Okay.

[00:51:53] So not if you go to church, not if you're a Nazarite, according to numbers.

[00:51:58] Oh.

[00:51:58] Okay.

[00:52:06] Okay.

[00:52:15] Okay.

[00:52:16] Never eat moist grapes or dried.

[00:52:19] That's really dumb.

[00:52:20] You stay away.

[00:52:20] So you can't even have raisins or grapes or anything.

[00:52:22] Mm-mm.

[00:52:22] You stay away from that shit.

[00:52:23] But I'm good with the vinegar.

[00:52:24] I'm not going to drink vinegar.

[00:52:26] I misspoke.

[00:52:27] It's not vinegar.

[00:52:27] It's vinegar of wine.

[00:52:29] Oh.

[00:52:29] Or vinegar of strong drink.

[00:52:31] Okay.

[00:52:31] Okay.

[00:52:32] Okay.

[00:52:32] All right.

[00:52:32] It wasn't vinegar and wine.

[00:52:34] I got it.

[00:52:34] Yeah.

[00:52:35] So.

[00:52:36] Whatever.

[00:52:36] Don't drink.

[00:52:37] Don't drink the wine stuff.

[00:52:39] I guess.

[00:52:40] According to that.

[00:52:40] Not if you're going to church or if you're a Nazarite.

[00:52:42] Right.

[00:52:42] Or if you're a priest or prophet, you better stop.

[00:52:45] Mm.

[00:52:46] Okay.

[00:52:46] That's according to Isaiah.

[00:52:48] Who are the Nazarites again?

[00:52:49] Do you remember who the Nazarites are?

[00:52:52] They're Nazary.

[00:52:53] They're Nazary.

[00:52:54] They're Nazary.

[00:52:55] They're so Naz-ish.

[00:52:57] Okay.

[00:52:57] All right.

[00:52:58] I don't know.

[00:52:58] I'm going to look it up real quick.

[00:53:00] They're pretty nazy.

[00:53:01] Yeah.

[00:53:02] Um.

[00:53:03] If you are a priest or a prophet, according to the book of Isaiah, you cannot drink wine

[00:53:08] because it says, but they have also erred through wine and through strong drink are out

[00:53:15] of the way.

[00:53:15] The priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink.

[00:53:19] They are swallowed up of wine.

[00:53:21] Mm.

[00:53:21] They are out of the way through strong drink.

[00:53:23] They err in vision.

[00:53:25] They stumble in judgment.

[00:53:26] Fuckers.

[00:53:27] Well, just for the record, Nazarites are people who took a special vow to dedicate themselves

[00:54:00] to God.

[00:54:01] They're in the beginning of the Bible.

[00:54:02] Right.

[00:54:02] They kind of just disappeared into the beginning of the Bible.

[00:54:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:54:06] Never heard from them again.

[00:54:07] What the fuck's a Nazarite?

[00:54:08] I forgot.

[00:54:09] Because wine.

[00:54:10] Right.

[00:54:10] That's the entire position.

[00:54:12] Yeah.

[00:54:12] See?

[00:54:12] All right.

[00:54:13] But guess what?

[00:54:14] What?

[00:54:15] You're always wrong.

[00:54:16] All right.

[00:54:17] Can they drink wine?

[00:54:19] Sometimes, apparently.

[00:54:20] Absolutely not.

[00:54:21] Okay?

[00:54:22] Oh, wait.

[00:54:22] I thought we just did the absolutely not.

[00:54:23] No.

[00:54:24] We just did the sometimes.

[00:54:25] Oh.

[00:54:25] Oh.

[00:54:27] Okay.

[00:54:27] Okay.

[00:54:27] Okay.

[00:54:27] This is absolutely not, ever.

[00:54:29] Got it.

[00:54:29] Absolutely fucking not.

[00:54:31] Got it.

[00:54:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:54:32] According to Proverbs, wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging, and whosoever is deceived

[00:54:37] thereby is not wise.

[00:54:39] You goddamn mocker wine.

[00:54:41] Be not among wine bibbers.

[00:54:43] Don't be a wine bibber, fuckers.

[00:54:45] Don't be among the wine bibber.

[00:54:47] Don't be among the wine bibbers.

[00:54:49] Yeah.

[00:54:49] I'm a wine bibber.

[00:54:50] Yeah, I guess I'm not supposed to be among ya.

[00:54:52] Well, you know.

[00:54:54] We do like to commingle.

[00:54:57] For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty.

[00:55:01] Both of those were according to Proverbs.

[00:55:03] Okay.

[00:55:03] This one's according to Isaiah.

[00:55:06] Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink,

[00:55:10] that continue until night, till wine inflame them.

[00:55:13] You know, I gotta give them props.

[00:55:14] They woke up early in the morning to get that start on the day of drinking.

[00:55:18] Right.

[00:55:18] You know, they made a point to get out of bed and start something.

[00:55:24] Well, this one, the Isaiah one to me seems more like it's addressed to people that drink heavily.

[00:55:30] Not like don't drink at all.

[00:55:32] No, I know.

[00:55:32] Yeah.

[00:55:32] I was kind of joking a little bit.

[00:55:35] And actually, the next one from Isaiah kind of mimics that.

[00:55:39] Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink.

[00:55:44] Yeah, I think that was it.

[00:55:46] Were those both from Isaiah?

[00:55:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:55:48] Okay.

[00:55:48] I distinctly remember a section where they were talking about strong drinkers.

[00:55:53] Yeah.

[00:55:53] More than just, you know, alcohol in general.

[00:55:56] So I, you know, obviously that's a bad thing.

[00:56:00] You don't want to drink too much alcohol ever.

[00:56:02] Right.

[00:56:02] Because that's not good.

[00:56:04] And that's why we have programs to get people from, to stop drinking too much alcohol.

[00:56:08] Right.

[00:56:08] It's bad for your liver at the very least.

[00:56:10] Right.

[00:56:10] Right.

[00:56:10] Right.

[00:56:11] And no judgment if you, I mean, we've all known or have been an alcoholic.

[00:56:17] Personally, not me, but I think you could have gone down that route.

[00:56:20] I have alcoholism in, it runs in my family and I have to be very careful with the choices

[00:56:27] that I make because I am more inclined to that.

[00:56:31] You can't, you don't know your limits.

[00:56:33] Correct.

[00:56:33] Well, I, you don't care about your limits.

[00:56:35] Your limits don't matter.

[00:56:36] Once I have a drink.

[00:56:37] Non-existent.

[00:56:38] Yeah.

[00:56:38] Once I have a drink, I will just not stop.

[00:56:41] Right.

[00:56:41] So if I'm going to drink, I have to be very, very active in a plan of how that is going

[00:56:50] to work beforehand.

[00:56:52] Right.

[00:56:52] Otherwise you might end up hanging out of a car halfway or something.

[00:56:55] Shut up.

[00:56:59] Well, the last one is from Hosea.

[00:57:02] Hosea.

[00:57:03] Uh huh.

[00:57:03] And that one says wine and new wine take away the heart.

[00:57:08] Okay.

[00:57:09] You know?

[00:57:09] Yeah.

[00:57:10] Cause no, no, no.

[00:57:12] I mean, they take away the heart.

[00:57:13] Not like your physical heart.

[00:57:15] Right.

[00:57:15] No, I figured.

[00:57:16] Like your, your soul, your being, your, your essence.

[00:57:20] Okay.

[00:57:20] Like it makes you stupid and you're not who you are.

[00:57:24] But sometimes, okay.

[00:57:26] I can see that.

[00:57:27] Look, some people, different people react differently to alcohol.

[00:57:30] Right?

[00:57:30] Oh, you're saying nuance.

[00:57:32] The Bible doesn't do that.

[00:57:33] Oh.

[00:57:34] Okay.

[00:57:34] The Bible generalizes.

[00:57:36] Everybody sucks across the board.

[00:57:38] Well, I'm just saying that some people can give extra spirit to.

[00:57:43] Mm.

[00:57:43] Extra.

[00:57:44] Extra heart.

[00:57:46] Cause you know, those are the ones that it's, you know, the crier.

[00:57:49] Right?

[00:57:50] They're, they're awesome.

[00:57:51] I love the crier.

[00:57:52] They're like, Oh, I love you so much.

[00:57:55] They love everybody.

[00:57:56] Everybody.

[00:57:57] Right?

[00:57:57] It's amazing.

[00:57:58] And then there's the blustering asshole.

[00:58:01] And right.

[00:58:02] And, um, he's the guy who you already knew he was a blustering asshole before he

[00:58:08] drank.

[00:58:09] Just now he's louder and.

[00:58:10] And he punches walls.

[00:58:11] Right?

[00:58:12] Right.

[00:58:13] Possibly runs through a window.

[00:58:14] Right.

[00:58:15] I've seen that.

[00:58:16] Yeah.

[00:58:16] Insists.

[00:58:16] He's fine.

[00:58:17] You're just being a bitch.

[00:58:19] Right.

[00:58:19] And then he, you know, drives recklessly and blames the other drivers on the road.

[00:58:24] But somehow that motherfucker never crashes.

[00:58:27] Right.

[00:58:28] I hate that guy.

[00:58:29] Yeah.

[00:58:30] He never gets caught either.

[00:58:32] I mean, you know, they do sometimes, but not enough.

[00:58:36] Not enough.

[00:58:37] That guy.

[00:58:37] Yeah.

[00:58:38] Just saying.

[00:58:38] I agree.

[00:58:39] Yeah.

[00:58:40] All right.

[00:58:40] Number two.

[00:58:42] Before we move on.

[00:58:43] Yeah.

[00:58:44] Drink responsibly, everybody.

[00:58:45] Please.

[00:58:46] You know, there's Ubers.

[00:58:47] There's a lot of things, you know, if you like to drink and I like to drink sometimes

[00:58:51] wife likes to drink, you know, it just don't do it dumb.

[00:58:56] Have a buddy, have a, you know, designated driver in this day and age.

[00:59:01] And there's no reason to drive drunk ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.

[00:59:05] Drop your keys at the door, bro.

[00:59:07] Right.

[00:59:07] You know, this is my public service announcement for the day.

[00:59:10] Yeah.

[00:59:11] Have a plan going in.

[00:59:12] Right.

[00:59:12] And even if you go in with the plan not to drink and then, you know, you get peer pressured

[00:59:16] into it, make your plan right then and there.

[00:59:19] Like, okay, I wasn't going to drink, but now I'm going to drink.

[00:59:22] But before I take this first sip, I am making the plan.

[00:59:25] How am I getting home?

[00:59:26] Because it clearly isn't the other way I came.

[00:59:30] Right.

[00:59:30] Right.

[00:59:30] Yeah.

[00:59:31] Just be smart about it.

[00:59:33] Okay.

[00:59:33] Number two.

[00:59:34] Did God commend or condemn Jehu for the killings at Jezreel?

[00:59:40] Here are your choices.

[00:59:43] Okay.

[00:59:43] Always celebrate murder or murder is very naughty.

[00:59:48] Hmm.

[00:59:49] I, I'm just, I'm basing this off of God.

[00:59:53] Mm hmm.

[00:59:53] I'm going to go with always celebrate.

[00:59:55] Always celebrate murder.

[00:59:56] Sure.

[00:59:56] Because Jez is a murderous fuck.

[00:59:57] Yeah.

[00:59:58] Yeah.

[00:59:59] According to second Kings, two different verses support that.

[01:00:03] Huh.

[01:00:04] Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, thou shalt smite the house of Ahab, thy master, that

[01:00:09] I may avenge the blood of my servants and prophets and the blood of all the servants of the

[01:00:14] Lord at the hand of Jezebel for the whole house of Ahab shall perish.

[01:00:20] And I will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall.

[01:00:25] Jeez.

[01:00:25] I will kill you if you pee on my tent.

[01:00:28] Right.

[01:00:28] Yeah.

[01:00:28] Yeah.

[01:00:29] Always, always murder.

[01:00:30] Do you remember?

[01:00:30] I think part of my choice here was based on the fact that you remember, I think it was

[01:00:35] like Psalms or Proverbs.

[01:00:37] I can't remember which one, but there was a, there was a section where they were like,

[01:00:40] dancing in their enemies blood.

[01:00:42] Yes.

[01:00:43] Or the dogs were in it.

[01:00:44] I don't know something.

[01:00:45] It was really disgusting.

[01:00:46] It was bad and wrong.

[01:00:48] Yeah.

[01:00:48] Yeah.

[01:00:48] But, but there's obviously some like glee and enjoyment of murder.

[01:00:54] The fact that we both dug glee out.

[01:00:56] Yeah.

[01:00:57] They're so excited.

[01:00:58] They're so fucking happy about kill, kill, kill.

[01:01:01] Right.

[01:01:02] Yeah.

[01:01:03] Okay.

[01:01:03] So the other one says, and the Lord said unto Jehu, because thou has done well in executing

[01:01:09] that which is right in mine eyes and has done unto the house of Ahab, according to all that

[01:01:16] was in mine heart, the children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel.

[01:01:22] Hmm.

[01:01:23] I'm so fucking glad that you killed the, um, the people like good job, Jehu.

[01:01:29] Right.

[01:01:30] You did a great murdery thing at Jezreel.

[01:01:33] Yeah.

[01:01:33] I'm so very happy for you, but guess what?

[01:01:36] What?

[01:01:36] You're always wrong.

[01:01:38] This is, this is from Hosea, right?

[01:01:40] Cause I don't remember this in Hosea, but okay.

[01:01:42] Murder is very naughty.

[01:01:43] Got it.

[01:01:44] Yeah.

[01:01:44] Yeah.

[01:01:44] So this is from Hosea chapter one, which is probably why you don't remember it.

[01:01:49] Right.

[01:01:49] And the Lord said unto him, call his name Jezreel for yet a little while, and I will avenge

[01:01:55] the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu and will cause to cease the kingdom of the

[01:02:01] house of Israel.

[01:02:02] That is completely opposite.

[01:02:03] That's completely opposite.

[01:02:05] Exactly.

[01:02:05] That's a very strong contradiction.

[01:02:07] Yeah.

[01:02:07] That's a big one.

[01:02:08] Yeah.

[01:02:08] Like that's night and day.

[01:02:10] Right.

[01:02:10] Okay.

[01:02:11] Weird.

[01:02:12] It is very weird.

[01:02:14] Yeah.

[01:02:14] I don't quite understand.

[01:02:16] It's almost like God doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and people wrote this.

[01:02:22] Right.

[01:02:23] Right.

[01:02:23] Yeah.

[01:02:24] There was, there was obviously different opinions about what happened.

[01:02:37] You know, whatever for the purposes of argument.

[01:02:40] Right.

[01:02:40] Right.

[01:02:41] Clearly different people, wherever they got their message from, they got different messages.

[01:02:47] Right.

[01:02:47] Which means that God is not an effective fucking speaker.

[01:02:51] Right.

[01:02:51] Pretending that God exists.

[01:02:53] Right.

[01:02:53] You know?

[01:02:54] Okay.

[01:02:54] Moving on.

[01:02:56] Number three.

[01:02:56] Yeah.

[01:02:57] Is it wrong to have sex outside of marriage?

[01:03:01] Do you want your two choices?

[01:03:03] I'm going to go with no, but you can give me them if you want to still.

[01:03:07] Okay.

[01:03:07] Well, here's your two choices.

[01:03:09] Yeah.

[01:03:09] Is it wrong to have sex outside of marriage?

[01:03:11] Yeah.

[01:03:12] Okay.

[01:03:13] Yeah.

[01:03:13] Or not if God tells you to do it.

[01:03:18] Wait.

[01:03:18] Oh, so wait, wait, wait, wait.

[01:03:20] No, this is, this is, I, so there's all these instances, especially in the older portions

[01:03:25] of the Bible where God's like, go have sex with that concubine or go have sex with that

[01:03:30] slave or go have whatever anybody, but your wife, apparently because she can't give you a

[01:03:35] child.

[01:03:35] Yeah.

[01:03:35] So then it's just fine to go have sex outside of marriage.

[01:03:39] But that's not what Christians would have you believe.

[01:03:42] If you are thinking of when Jacob, uh, fucked his concubines, he was technically married

[01:03:49] to them because he was married to, uh, Leah, which was the wife that he didn't want.

[01:03:56] And then, you know, worked seven more years on Laban's farm and then married.

[01:04:01] Um, Rachel was the one that he actually had wanted in the first place.

[01:04:04] Right, but they tossed in a few extra ones in there too.

[01:04:06] They did, but technically those chicks belong to him.

[01:04:10] Okay.

[01:04:10] There's, there's a, I take issue.

[01:04:14] I, I agree with you, but I'm, I'm pointing out how it would be viewed because it was quote

[01:04:22] unquote in the family.

[01:04:24] It, it does not, it was not culturally inappropriate.

[01:04:28] It would not have been considered sex outside of marriage because the handmaids of his two

[01:04:35] wives did not fully count as people.

[01:04:40] So again, we're, we're discussing the, so we went from discuss, so we're going to get back

[01:04:45] to it here in a second, but we went from discussing sex in or outside of marriage as being okay or

[01:04:51] not to then incorporating slaves and, um, and, uh, concubines and polygamy and ownership of people, which is slavery.

[01:05:02] So yeah.

[01:05:02] Okay.

[01:05:03] Slaves and polygamy.

[01:05:04] Yeah.

[01:05:04] Yeah.

[01:05:05] We, that, that's all deemed okay at some part of the Bible because of God.

[01:05:11] Yes.

[01:05:12] Not because, not because these people just really wanted to have sex with other people, but God actually condones these actions in portions of the Bible.

[01:05:20] And that is disturbing.

[01:05:22] It sure as fuck is.

[01:05:23] It is.

[01:05:24] Look, I'm not saying whatever.

[01:05:26] If you have a consensual marriage where you have multiple partners or even multiple wives, I don't have necessarily a problem with that.

[01:05:35] Consent.

[01:05:36] As long as it's consensual.

[01:05:38] Consent in all parties, but more than that, informed consent.

[01:05:42] Right.

[01:05:43] Yes.

[01:05:43] Yes.

[01:05:44] Consent is important because.

[01:05:46] It's not a forced consent.

[01:05:47] Well, informed meaning that you have seen outside of the culture in which you were brought up.

[01:05:54] Sure.

[01:05:54] And you do understand that you don't actually have to marry somebody who has more than one wife.

[01:06:01] Right.

[01:06:02] Like, that's what I mean by informed consent.

[01:06:04] That it wasn't just a social thing that, what, I thought that's what I was supposed to do.

[01:06:08] I didn't know.

[01:06:08] Right.

[01:06:09] Right.

[01:06:09] Yeah.

[01:06:10] Okay.

[01:06:10] Sorry.

[01:06:11] So back to, I'm going to go with yes, it's okay to have sex outside of marriage.

[01:06:15] Of course it is.

[01:06:16] Right.

[01:06:17] No, it's wrong to have sex outside of marriage unless God tells you to do it.

[01:06:23] Okay.

[01:06:23] Okay.

[01:06:24] Okay.

[01:06:24] So what are your answers?

[01:06:26] You have, yes, it's wrong or it's not wrong if God tells you to do it.

[01:06:31] It's not wrong if God tells you to do it.

[01:06:33] Okay.

[01:06:33] Sorry.

[01:06:34] I wanted to make sure I picked the right one.

[01:06:36] Got it.

[01:06:36] Okay.

[01:06:36] So yeah, both of these come from Hosea and the Lord said to Hosea, go take unto thee a wife

[01:06:43] of whoredoms.

[01:06:44] Oh.

[01:06:45] Cause you know, she was fucking around.

[01:06:46] Yeah.

[01:06:47] Yeah.

[01:06:47] Yeah.

[01:06:47] That was from chapter one.

[01:06:48] And then in chapter three, then the Lord said unto me, love a woman, beloved of her friend,

[01:06:54] yet an adulteress.

[01:06:56] Okay.

[01:06:57] She was fucking left and right.

[01:06:59] Right.

[01:07:00] I'm gonna, I'm gonna take slight issue with this.

[01:07:04] Mm-hmm.

[01:07:04] And that's because the entire portion of Hosea where we were discussing Gomer was more of

[01:07:11] a metaphor for Israel the entire time, more so than it was about his wife.

[01:07:17] Like, in my estimation.

[01:07:18] Like, did this story actually happen?

[01:07:20] Right.

[01:07:20] Yeah.

[01:07:21] Yeah.

[01:07:21] Right.

[01:07:21] Now, again, that's, that's debatable, I guess.

[01:07:24] Okay.

[01:07:24] But whether it happened or not, it's a story saying that he needed to fuck his wife who

[01:07:33] was fucking around.

[01:07:35] Adulteress.

[01:07:35] Yeah.

[01:07:35] No, I get it.

[01:07:36] So, and she was supposed to represent Israel, but you know, again, God can change hearts.

[01:07:42] So you're saying that God is allowing for Gomer to be redeemed through Hosea because

[01:07:48] whatever.

[01:07:49] Mm-hmm.

[01:07:49] Okay.

[01:07:50] Yeah.

[01:07:50] All right.

[01:07:50] I just want to make sure I was clear on the, how God condoned sex outside of the marriage.

[01:07:54] Yeah.

[01:07:55] Okay.

[01:07:55] Because God told Gomer, go fuck.

[01:07:58] And then he told, um, Hosea, go marry that whore.

[01:08:03] And then go buy her back from her dude.

[01:08:06] Did God tell Gomer to fuck?

[01:08:07] I don't remember that happening.

[01:08:09] I don't know.

[01:08:10] I thought she just did.

[01:08:11] And then God told Hosea to go marry her.

[01:08:13] I have to imagine though, because at one point she did go back, like after they had all

[01:08:17] those kids.

[01:08:18] Yeah.

[01:08:18] She did go back to the whoredom because he had to go, um, buy her back.

[01:08:24] Right.

[01:08:25] No, I, I recall that, but I don't recall God telling her to go.

[01:08:29] I just, I don't know.

[01:08:30] I just have to imagine that in order for that story to hold any kind of water, why would

[01:08:38] we assume that it does?

[01:08:39] You're right.

[01:08:40] That was a dumb, dumb thing to say.

[01:08:43] Be that as it may, you're always wrong.

[01:08:46] Okay.

[01:08:46] Okay.

[01:08:46] Of course it's wrong to have sex outside of marriage.

[01:08:49] Right.

[01:08:49] Right.

[01:08:49] Because according to both Exodus and Deuteronomy, thou shalt not commit adultery, you asshole.

[01:08:56] Oh man.

[01:08:57] Okay.

[01:08:57] Yeah.

[01:08:57] Yeah.

[01:08:57] So get it right.

[01:08:58] I believe that one is actually in the 10 commandments.

[01:09:00] Mm hmm.

[01:09:00] Yeah.

[01:09:01] So yeah.

[01:09:02] Don't do it.

[01:09:02] It's one of those big ones, you know?

[01:09:03] Yeah.

[01:09:04] Okay.

[01:09:04] It just depends on how you define marriage.

[01:09:06] And isn't it funny that Christians get to move the goalpost.

[01:09:09] Well, and honestly, the Bible struggles with defining a marriage because it doesn't really

[01:09:14] do it.

[01:09:14] Exactly.

[01:09:15] Exactly.

[01:09:16] Yeah.

[01:09:16] At one point it was perfectly fine to have a thousand wives, but don't you dare be gay.

[01:09:23] Like, I'm sorry, what?

[01:09:24] Well, even the gay thing in the Bible is a little bit questionable as to its relevance.

[01:09:30] As to what they mean by that.

[01:09:31] Right.

[01:09:32] Yeah.

[01:09:33] The whole thing is just like, you guys are so ancient.

[01:09:37] Well, you know, part of what I take issue with is the inability to draw, you know, conclusions

[01:09:46] from what is in the Bible to relate to society today.

[01:09:50] Yeah.

[01:09:50] It is not relatable.

[01:09:52] No.

[01:09:52] It is not relevant.

[01:09:53] No.

[01:09:54] And it makes no fucking sense.

[01:09:56] None.

[01:09:56] For what the reality of humanity is in the 21st century.

[01:10:01] Right.

[01:10:01] Because these people, they herded goats and they did not have cell phones or Netflix.

[01:10:07] Yeah.

[01:10:08] And cars.

[01:10:09] And they didn't know that a dude named Elon Musk someday was going to make ugly ass trucks

[01:10:15] and robots and robots that can drink.

[01:10:18] She just fucking announced that shit.

[01:10:20] There's there's there's there's house robots that are going to be coming out for apparently

[01:10:24] like twenty to thirty thousand bucks.

[01:10:25] Yeah.

[01:10:26] They look kind of like the ones that were in the what was the movie?

[01:10:32] I robot.

[01:10:33] Yeah.

[01:10:34] And they look like a cross between those and RoboCop.

[01:10:38] Yeah.

[01:10:39] Yeah.

[01:10:39] Right.

[01:10:40] Yeah.

[01:10:40] And if you ever played.

[01:10:42] Well, no, they don't.

[01:10:43] They're yeah.

[01:10:44] Never mind.

[01:10:44] Yeah.

[01:10:44] Those those would be a good comparison.

[01:10:46] So.

[01:10:46] Yeah.

[01:10:46] But it's on guys.

[01:10:48] The end is near.

[01:10:50] The end is nigh.

[01:10:52] And it's not Bill Nigh.

[01:10:54] It's no.

[01:10:55] It's it's like they didn't even watch Terminator or the Matrix.

[01:10:59] Like what the fuck?

[01:11:01] I just I really hope they got the three laws in there.

[01:11:04] I bet they didn't.

[01:11:05] And for those of you who don't know, those are the three laws of robotics, which are set

[01:11:09] in motion by Isaac Asimov.

[01:11:11] Yeah.

[01:11:13] Yeah.

[01:11:14] So.

[01:11:15] And I don't.

[01:11:17] I'm not going to even try because I'll butcher it.

[01:11:20] So but just look it up.

[01:11:21] It's famous.

[01:11:22] And it has to do with the robots not being able to kill their right or humans and by

[01:11:29] either action or inaction.

[01:11:31] And as a matter of fact, they need to go so far as to do their best to save them or something

[01:11:36] to that effect.

[01:11:37] Right.

[01:11:37] Right.

[01:11:38] Like, yeah, I totally butchered it.

[01:11:39] It's an important piece of of a programming that needs to be in there somewhere.

[01:11:44] Super, super important.

[01:11:45] Yeah.

[01:11:45] I'm going to guess that they skip right over that.

[01:11:48] Probably.

[01:11:48] He seems like a skip to the end of the book kind of guy to me.

[01:11:51] Right.

[01:11:51] Yeah.

[01:11:51] Yeah.

[01:11:52] But but hopefully his his engineers were like, you know, those need to be in there.

[01:11:55] Mm hmm.

[01:11:56] So we'll see.

[01:11:57] I guess I have not heard of anybody who stands up to him and keeps his job.

[01:12:02] These fucking robots look like humans.

[01:12:04] I mean, like they're human ish.

[01:12:06] They're shaped human.

[01:12:08] They're apparently going to be able to cook and clean and take care of your kids and do

[01:12:11] all the things like they serve you serve you dinner, serve you food, serve you drinks.

[01:12:14] They showed one like opening the door and leaning down to pick up the Amazon package

[01:12:19] and bring in the mail.

[01:12:21] And they put another one sitting at the family table playing go fish with the fam.

[01:12:25] Yeah.

[01:12:25] Like what?

[01:12:26] I mean, look, at the same time, I'm kind of like terrified of what's going to happen.

[01:12:31] I still want one.

[01:12:33] Kind of.

[01:12:33] OK, look, I mean, I got a Roomba, right?

[01:12:35] Yeah.

[01:12:36] Who wouldn't want a fucking robot that cooks for you?

[01:12:38] Well, and here's the thing.

[01:12:40] I'm here.

[01:12:40] So the cooking ain't that bad.

[01:12:42] OK, right.

[01:12:42] But our laundry is down in the basement and not just down in the basement.

[01:12:48] It's down the basement and all the way around to the other side of the basement.

[01:12:53] Right.

[01:12:53] Right.

[01:12:54] Like you have to basically walk a circle along the edge of the outside wall to get to the

[01:13:01] end, which is basically where you started.

[01:13:03] But it's on the other side of the wall.

[01:13:05] Right. Yeah.

[01:13:06] So if I had a robot and he did nothing but the laundry, you'd be happy.

[01:13:10] I would be happy with that.

[01:13:12] Yeah.

[01:13:12] You know, especially because you've been struggling with stairs lately.

[01:13:15] I've been struggling with stairs.

[01:13:16] I'm kind of not supposed to be going up and down stairs.

[01:13:19] And that's a long staircase.

[01:13:21] It is.

[01:13:21] So every time I go down, like I hold on to the railing and I take one step at a time.

[01:13:28] Right.

[01:13:28] You know, I always like give a peace sign before I go down.

[01:13:33] Like, OK, this could be it.

[01:13:36] I've taken my life into my own hands here.

[01:13:38] Right.

[01:13:38] This might be the end.

[01:13:40] Text everybody hitting the stairs.

[01:13:42] Love everybody.

[01:13:43] Yeah.

[01:13:44] So, yeah, I'd have one of his stupid robots, even having watched the Terminator and the

[01:13:50] Matrix.

[01:13:51] Right.

[01:13:51] Yeah.

[01:13:52] Like I said, I'm torn.

[01:13:53] I know.

[01:13:53] But, you know, the science person in me, like my science heart is against it's railing against

[01:14:00] my common sense.

[01:14:02] Like, don't be stupid.

[01:14:04] Right.

[01:14:06] But it would be neat to have a robot.

[01:14:08] Right.

[01:14:08] Right.

[01:14:08] Yeah.

[01:14:09] So I guess I get why they built them.

[01:14:11] But see, I resent them because if they hadn't built them, then I wouldn't be in this like

[01:14:15] moral quandary.

[01:14:17] Right.

[01:14:18] Like I blame them.

[01:14:19] Of course.

[01:14:20] All right.

[01:14:20] So number four.

[01:14:22] Will Ephraim return to Egypt?

[01:14:25] Yes or no?

[01:14:25] Those are your choices.

[01:14:27] They didn't.

[01:14:27] No, no.

[01:14:28] No.

[01:14:29] According to Hosea chapter 11, Ephraim shall not return into the land of Egypt.

[01:14:36] That's the correct one.

[01:14:37] Okay.

[01:14:37] But guess what?

[01:14:38] I'm not wrong.

[01:14:40] You're always wrong.

[01:14:42] Yeah.

[01:14:43] Because according to Hosea chapter eight, Ephraim shall return to Egypt.

[01:14:48] And we kind of talked about the lost tribes of Israel.

[01:14:50] So, I mean, there is still people.

[01:14:53] There are still people out there that are holding out hope that these tribes of Israel

[01:14:57] will end up back in Israel.

[01:15:00] Right.

[01:15:00] So I don't know how that happens at this point.

[01:15:03] But they're talking about them returning to Egypt in this question.

[01:15:06] Oh.

[01:15:07] Yeah.

[01:15:07] Will Ephraim return to Egypt?

[01:15:09] Okay.

[01:15:10] So.

[01:15:10] I gotcha.

[01:15:11] Yeah.

[01:15:12] Okay.

[01:15:12] So either yes or no, according to Hosea.

[01:15:15] Whatever.

[01:15:15] Both.

[01:15:16] Right.

[01:15:16] According to Hosea.

[01:15:17] Yeah.

[01:15:18] Okay.

[01:15:18] All right.

[01:15:19] Number five.

[01:15:20] Is God merciful?

[01:15:21] No.

[01:15:21] We've answered this one a thousand times.

[01:15:23] No, no, no.

[01:15:24] Okay.

[01:15:24] Yeah.

[01:15:24] Your answers are yes or nope.

[01:15:28] Him's a sumbitch.

[01:15:29] He's a sumbitch.

[01:15:30] Him's a sumbitch.

[01:15:31] Yep.

[01:15:31] Yeah.

[01:15:32] All right.

[01:15:32] So here we go down the list.

[01:15:34] I'm going to buzz through these because there's a lot that prove that he's a sumbitch.

[01:15:37] Yeah.

[01:15:37] Okay.

[01:15:38] Yep.

[01:15:38] Exodus chapter 34.

[01:15:40] The Lord God visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and upon the children's

[01:15:44] children unto the third and to the fourth generation.

[01:15:47] That's so fucked up.

[01:15:49] Yeah.

[01:15:49] According to numbers.

[01:15:51] And the Lord said to Moses, take all the heads of the people and hang them up before

[01:15:54] the Lord against the sun that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel.

[01:15:59] That's fun.

[01:16:00] I love hanging up the dead, the heads of the people I've conquered.

[01:16:04] Yeah.

[01:16:05] That's very exciting.

[01:16:06] Right.

[01:16:06] Right.

[01:16:07] Again, according to Deuteronomy, and thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord

[01:16:11] thy God shall deliver thee.

[01:16:13] Thine eye shall have no pity upon them.

[01:16:15] Yeah.

[01:16:16] Kill them all.

[01:16:17] Right.

[01:16:17] Murder's always good.

[01:16:18] Love it.

[01:16:19] According to first Samuel.

[01:16:20] Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not, but slay

[01:16:27] both man and woman, infant and suckling.

[01:16:31] So definitely go out and kill all the babies.

[01:16:34] That is so fun and nice of him.

[01:16:37] He's just not a sumbitch at all.

[01:16:39] Yeah.

[01:16:39] Don't, don't do that.

[01:16:40] No.

[01:16:40] That's horrible.

[01:16:42] Don't be gross.

[01:16:43] All right.

[01:16:43] In Ezekiel, it says, go ye after him through the city and smite.

[01:16:49] Let not your eyes spare.

[01:16:50] Neither have ye pity.

[01:16:52] Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children and women.

[01:16:57] Oh my God.

[01:16:57] That's awesome.

[01:16:58] Ooh.

[01:16:59] Love me some murder.

[01:17:01] Okay.

[01:17:01] First Samuel says, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of

[01:17:05] the people 50,000 and three score and 10 men.

[01:17:10] Jesus.

[01:17:11] Yeah.

[01:17:11] Love that.

[01:17:12] That was fun.

[01:17:13] You ever seen those things where they show the body counts for God versus the devil?

[01:17:18] No.

[01:17:18] Oh, it's like millions versus like one.

[01:17:22] That's hilarious.

[01:17:24] That is hilarious.

[01:17:25] Or maybe 10.

[01:17:25] And true.

[01:17:26] Who did the devil kill?

[01:17:28] I think maybe.

[01:17:29] I don't know for sure, but they might attribute Job's kids.

[01:17:33] Job's 10 kids?

[01:17:34] Yeah.

[01:17:35] Interesting.

[01:17:36] Yeah.

[01:17:36] Okay.

[01:17:37] Yeah.

[01:17:37] That does make sense.

[01:17:38] Even though God allowed it.

[01:17:39] Yeah.

[01:17:40] Okay.

[01:17:40] But even that one's questionable.

[01:17:42] Right.

[01:17:42] Because God was like, I'll take that challenge.

[01:17:46] Right.

[01:17:47] Go ahead and kill those kids.

[01:17:48] Yeah.

[01:17:48] That's fine.

[01:17:49] Yeah.

[01:17:49] There's like a whole website that like breaks it down as to like, you know, the body count basically.

[01:17:54] Yeah.

[01:17:54] Yeah.

[01:17:54] That's interesting.

[01:17:56] All right.

[01:17:56] According to Lamentations, the Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob and hath not pitied.

[01:18:03] Okay.

[01:18:04] And then again in Lamentations, the Lord hath done that which he had devised.

[01:18:08] He hath thrown down and hath not pitied.

[01:18:11] He'd thrown down, huh?

[01:18:12] And he did not pity.

[01:18:14] And again, thou hast slain, thou hast not pitied.

[01:18:18] Then in Jeremiah, I will not pity nor spare nor have mercy, but destroy.

[01:18:24] Then in Ezekiel, and mine I shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity.

[01:18:30] So.

[01:18:31] Because he's such a loving God, right?

[01:18:33] Yeah.

[01:18:33] That's what I keep hearing from people.

[01:18:35] I just don't see it.

[01:18:37] Right.

[01:18:37] Anywhere.

[01:18:38] Him's definitely a sumbitch, but guess what?

[01:18:41] What?

[01:18:42] You're always wrong.

[01:18:44] I don't think so.

[01:18:45] He is merciful.

[01:18:47] Let me tell you how merciful he is.

[01:18:49] Exodus tells us, the Lord God, merciful and gracious, long-suffering and abundant in goodness

[01:18:55] and truth.

[01:18:56] What did he do to deserve that title?

[01:18:58] Don't know, but they said it, so it must be true.

[01:19:01] Right.

[01:19:02] Deuteronomy, for the Lord thy God is a merciful God.

[01:19:05] Again, they said so.

[01:19:07] Didn't give an example, but they said it.

[01:19:09] So I believe you.

[01:19:10] No.

[01:19:10] Second Samuel, let us fall now into the hand of the Lord for his mercies are great.

[01:19:16] Again, no example.

[01:19:18] Usually these examples that they're giving are, they're either preceded or followed up by him

[01:19:26] killing people.

[01:19:28] Right.

[01:19:28] Yeah.

[01:19:28] So.

[01:19:28] Exactly.

[01:19:29] And this one is said in first Chronicles and several chapters and Psalms.

[01:19:35] Oh, give thanks unto the Lord for he is good and his mercy and jareth forever.

[01:19:40] Love that guy.

[01:19:41] I don't know why.

[01:19:42] I just heard a rumor that he's nice.

[01:19:44] Sure.

[01:19:45] Right.

[01:19:45] Right.

[01:19:45] Right.

[01:19:46] Jeremiah says, I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you for I am merciful, saith the

[01:19:52] Lord, and I will not keep anger forever, ever, ever.

[01:19:57] And finally in Hosea chapter six, it says for I desired mercy and not sacrifice and the knowledge

[01:20:04] of God more than burnt offerings.

[01:20:07] Mm hmm.

[01:20:08] Okay.

[01:20:09] Yeah.

[01:20:09] God, God, God wanted not the burnt offerings.

[01:20:12] Right.

[01:20:12] He wanted the not burnt offerings.

[01:20:15] Except for when he did want the burnt offerings.

[01:20:16] But not in Hosea.

[01:20:18] Right.

[01:20:18] Not that time.

[01:20:18] He wanted their knowledge of God.

[01:20:20] He wanted them to not be fake.

[01:20:23] Right.

[01:20:23] Is what I was getting at.

[01:20:25] Yeah.

[01:20:25] But still.

[01:20:26] Still.

[01:20:27] Yeah.

[01:20:27] It's all crap.

[01:20:29] It's crap.

[01:20:30] He's not a nice entity.

[01:20:32] Here's the thing.

[01:20:32] You can go through the motions that he told you to go through and it's still not enough

[01:20:36] for him.

[01:20:36] He's still going to kill you because.

[01:20:38] Because your leaders suck.

[01:20:40] Well, because they make up new rules.

[01:20:42] Right.

[01:20:42] They move the goalposts.

[01:20:43] It is what it is.

[01:20:45] Yep.

[01:20:46] Number six.

[01:20:47] Does God help in times of need?

[01:20:49] Here are your choices.

[01:20:51] Nope.

[01:20:51] Especially if he's big mad.

[01:20:53] Or yeah, if you say so.

[01:20:56] I'm going to go with nope.

[01:20:57] Nope.

[01:20:58] Especially if he's big mad.

[01:20:59] Yeah.

[01:20:59] All right.

[01:21:00] From first Samuel.

[01:21:01] And you shall cry out in that day because of your king, which you shall have chosen for

[01:21:06] you and the Lord will not hear you in that day.

[01:21:09] You know why?

[01:21:09] Because he ain't fucking helpful in times of need.

[01:21:13] Or real.

[01:21:13] Right.

[01:21:14] Yeah.

[01:21:14] Well, yeah, that too.

[01:21:15] Right.

[01:21:15] Okay.

[01:21:15] And then in Psalms it says, why standest thou afar off?

[01:21:19] Oh, Lord.

[01:21:19] Why hide us thou thyself in times of trouble?

[01:21:22] Why can't I find your fucking face?

[01:21:24] Why are you going away from me, God?

[01:21:26] I have some ideas.

[01:21:27] Right.

[01:21:28] And then again in Psalms it says, my God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?

[01:21:33] Which isn't that something I think that Christ is supposed to have uttered in the New Testament?

[01:21:37] So that's interesting.

[01:21:38] I think you might be right actually.

[01:21:38] Yeah.

[01:21:39] Why art thou so far from helping me and from the words of my roaring?

[01:21:43] Oh my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not.

[01:21:48] That's sad for them.

[01:21:49] That's sad.

[01:21:49] Yeah.

[01:21:50] And then in Isaiah, and when you spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you.

[01:21:56] Yea, when you make many prayers, I, God, will not hear.

[01:22:00] Mm-hmm.

[01:22:01] And again in Isaiah it says, verily thou art a God that hidest thyself.

[01:22:06] And then in Hosea it says, they shall go with their flocks and with their herds to seek the Lord, but they shall not find him.

[01:22:14] He hath withdrawn himself from them.

[01:22:16] I see.

[01:22:17] But guess what?

[01:22:18] What?

[01:22:19] You're always wrong.

[01:22:21] Yeah.

[01:22:22] Yeah.

[01:22:22] He's helpful if you say so.

[01:22:24] I guess.

[01:22:25] In Psalms.

[01:22:26] These are all from Psalms.

[01:22:27] Oh, of course they are.

[01:22:28] So do they really count?

[01:22:28] No.

[01:22:29] No.

[01:22:31] For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted.

[01:22:35] Bullshit.

[01:22:36] Neither hath he hid his face from him, but when he cried unto him, he heard.

[01:22:41] Mm-hmm.

[01:22:41] Okay.

[01:22:41] And God is our refuge and our strength, a very present help in trouble.

[01:22:45] Is he though?

[01:22:46] No.

[01:22:47] The Lord is near to all who call upon him.

[01:22:50] That's what they say.

[01:22:51] I guess.

[01:22:51] I don't believe them.

[01:22:53] Nope.

[01:22:53] Anyways.

[01:22:53] Anyways.

[01:22:54] Number seven.

[01:22:56] Who did Jacob wrestle with?

[01:23:00] The angel of the Lord or God.

[01:23:02] Which one?

[01:23:03] Those are your choices.

[01:23:04] I'm going to go with the angel of the Lord.

[01:23:06] All right.

[01:23:07] Well, that's what I said in Hosea.

[01:23:10] Jacob had power over the angel and prevailed.

[01:23:13] Right.

[01:23:14] Yeah.

[01:23:14] And apologists are like, they meant God.

[01:23:17] That's what that means.

[01:23:18] They interpret it for you.

[01:23:19] Well, I mean, you know, some of them don't think that it's good.

[01:23:22] Even religious people who study the Bible, some of them think that it was not God.

[01:23:27] Well, that's why I said apologists.

[01:23:28] Sure.

[01:23:29] They are like, no, it was totally God.

[01:23:31] It had to have been God because the reason that Hosea was wrestling with him was to earn

[01:23:41] what he had been given.

[01:23:43] Okay.

[01:23:43] That he had not, unto that point, been grateful enough for.

[01:23:47] That's what the apologists argue.

[01:23:49] So it had to be God.

[01:23:50] Got it.

[01:23:51] Okay.

[01:23:51] Wait, Hosea or Jacob?

[01:23:53] I'm sorry, Jacob.

[01:23:54] Okay.

[01:23:54] Yeah.

[01:23:55] Well, this is from Hosea talking about Jacob and that's why I have my words wrong.

[01:24:00] Sure.

[01:24:00] I knew what I meant.

[01:24:01] Follow my brain.

[01:24:03] Okay.

[01:24:03] But guess what?

[01:24:04] What?

[01:24:05] You're always wrong.

[01:24:07] Yeah.

[01:24:07] Of course.

[01:24:08] He wrestled with God.

[01:24:08] Of course.

[01:24:09] Yeah.

[01:24:10] So all throughout the Bible.

[01:24:12] Does it?

[01:24:12] Yeah.

[01:24:13] Okay.

[01:24:13] Yeah.

[01:24:14] Actually, I'm just going to read this one.

[01:24:17] It's from Genesis.

[01:24:18] Okay.

[01:24:18] This is where this happened.

[01:24:20] Right.

[01:24:20] But I had to fill in the blanks.

[01:24:22] Like I had to read and reread and reread this because this was the passage that said,

[01:24:27] and then he said to him and him and him said he and he, him, he, and he did this to

[01:24:32] him and him did that to he.

[01:24:34] Right.

[01:24:34] And so I went through and I filled in the blank of each pronoun to tell you if it was God

[01:24:42] or Jacob.

[01:24:43] Oh, okay.

[01:24:44] All right.

[01:24:45] Yeah.

[01:24:45] Okay.

[01:24:45] So that's, this is what it says.

[01:24:47] And Jacob was left alone and there wrestled a man, God with him until the breaking of

[01:24:54] the day.

[01:24:55] And when he, God saw that he, God prevailed not against him, Jacob, he, God touched the

[01:25:03] hollow of his Jacob thigh.

[01:25:05] And the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint as he, God wrestled with him, Jacob.

[01:25:13] And he, God said, let me go for the day breaketh.

[01:25:17] And he, Jacob said, I will not let thee go except thou bless me.

[01:25:21] See, he was fighting him for the blessing.

[01:25:23] Okay.

[01:25:23] So he's like, bless me, God damn it.

[01:25:25] Right.

[01:25:26] And he, God said unto him, Jacob, what is thy name?

[01:25:30] And he, Jacob said, Jacob, and he, God said, thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but

[01:25:38] Israel for as a prince, thou has power with God and with men and has prevailed.

[01:25:43] And Jacob asked him, God, and said, tell me, I pray thee, thy name.

[01:25:49] And he, God said, wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name?

[01:25:53] Why you be asking my name, bro?

[01:25:55] And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, for I have seen God face to face and my life

[01:26:02] is preserved.

[01:26:03] Oh.

[01:26:04] That was from Genesis chapter 32.

[01:26:06] Okay.

[01:26:07] And you're welcome.

[01:26:07] Cause that took me a few read throughs to get the pronouns.

[01:26:11] Yeah.

[01:26:11] Correct.

[01:26:12] Yeah.

[01:26:13] You see how it was problematic, right?

[01:26:15] Oh yeah.

[01:26:15] Okay.

[01:26:16] I think we, I, I, it was a long time ago, but I think we did comment on that at the time.

[01:26:20] Like, holy shit, what is happening?

[01:26:22] You know, I hate me some pronoun abuse in writing.

[01:26:25] Yeah.

[01:26:25] This was just bad, bad.

[01:26:28] What do you mean?

[01:26:28] He said this to him who said back to him that he was tired of him and himming.

[01:26:33] Ha ha.

[01:26:34] What?

[01:26:36] This is bullshit.

[01:26:37] Come on.

[01:26:38] Come on.

[01:26:39] Label your things.

[01:26:40] Right.

[01:26:40] All right.

[01:26:41] Anyways, that was that portion.

[01:26:44] Okay.

[01:26:44] Are you, do you need to like take a deep breath and be ready for this pop quiz?

[01:26:50] No, I think I'm going to, I'm going to slam dunk this shit.

[01:26:53] Well, I'm going to, I'm going to get like a 50.

[01:26:57] I'm going to get, I'm going to get half of them.

[01:26:59] Well, I thought a 61.

[01:27:01] I'm shooting low.

[01:27:02] When you say you got a 61, I'm shooting, I'm shooting low here.

[01:27:05] I'm not going to set myself up for failure.

[01:27:07] All right.

[01:27:07] So I'm going to hope I get 50.

[01:27:09] When I told you this yesterday, when we were recording, you were like, what?

[01:27:13] Oh, I'll totally beat you.

[01:27:15] And now today you're like, no, I'm saying, you know, I'm prepping myself for a loss.

[01:27:19] You know, I'm prepping myself for the L.

[01:27:21] Then I'm not going to help you.

[01:27:23] Okay.

[01:27:23] All right.

[01:27:24] Number one, what did the Lord desire rather than burnt offerings according to the book

[01:27:30] of Hosea?

[01:27:31] Do I get choices or okay.

[01:27:32] And I'm going to give everybody a chance to like, try to answer for themselves before

[01:27:36] I answer.

[01:27:36] So I'll pause a little bit before I answer.

[01:27:39] All right.

[01:27:39] I'm going to give the choices.

[01:27:41] Yeah.

[01:27:42] What did the Lord desire rather than burnt offerings according to the book of Hosea tithe

[01:27:49] knowledge of God temple or Thanksgiving?

[01:27:54] Go ahead.

[01:27:55] Talk.

[01:27:56] Talk.

[01:27:58] What is the answer?

[01:28:00] It is.

[01:28:01] It is.

[01:28:02] Drum roll, please.

[01:28:03] It is.

[01:28:03] Drum roll, please.

[01:28:04] Knowledge of God.

[01:28:05] Correct.

[01:28:06] Yeah.

[01:28:06] I mean, I think it's correct.

[01:28:08] Right.

[01:28:09] Correct.

[01:28:10] That's one of the ones I knew.

[01:28:12] Right.

[01:28:12] All right.

[01:28:12] Number two.

[01:28:13] And yes, there's choices.

[01:28:15] What did the Lord liken Israel stubbornness to a stubborn heifer, a leopard, a stubborn goat

[01:28:23] or a pig?

[01:28:25] And I'll read it again so that the audience playing along at home can have a chance to

[01:28:30] answer.

[01:28:31] Yeah.

[01:28:31] What did the Lord liken Israel's stubbornness to a stubborn heifer, a leopard, a stubborn

[01:28:40] goat or a pig?

[01:28:43] I am going to go with a stubborn heifer.

[01:28:46] I believe that's the correct answer.

[01:28:47] Okay.

[01:28:48] That's the one I picked.

[01:28:49] All right.

[01:28:50] All right.

[01:28:50] Number three.

[01:28:51] Where did the Israelites dwell in the days of the appointed feasts?

[01:28:57] Sealed houses, tents, in caves or on the mountains.

[01:29:03] And I will read that again for the players at home.

[01:29:06] Yeah.

[01:29:07] Where did the Israelites dwell in the days of the appointed feasts?

[01:29:13] Sealed houses, tents, in caves or on the mountains.

[01:29:18] What is your answer?

[01:29:20] My answer is tents.

[01:29:22] That's the one I picked.

[01:29:24] Okay.

[01:29:24] Yeah.

[01:29:25] Number four.

[01:29:27] According to Hosea, what will the Lord do after two days?

[01:29:33] He will raise us up, fight our enemies, revive us or humble us.

[01:29:47] What is your answer?

[01:29:55] I'm going to go with raise us up.

[01:29:57] Okay.

[01:29:58] I think that's the one I picked, but I can't remember.

[01:30:00] All right.

[01:30:01] Well, I guess we're going to read through a little.

[01:30:03] Okay.

[01:30:03] Yeah.

[01:30:03] Yeah.

[01:30:04] Okay.

[01:30:04] Number five.

[01:30:05] For how much did Hosea buy the adulteress?

[01:30:09] Yeah.

[01:30:10] Three shekels of gold.

[01:30:12] Seven shekels of gold.

[01:30:13] Fifteen shekels of gold.

[01:30:16] Thirty shekels of gold.

[01:30:17] And I'll read it again.

[01:30:19] Okay.

[01:30:20] For how much did Hosea buy the adulteress?

[01:30:24] Yeah.

[01:30:25] Three shekels of gold.

[01:30:26] Gomer.

[01:30:27] Yeah.

[01:30:27] Right.

[01:30:28] Three shekels of gold, seven shekels of gold, fifteen shekels of gold or thirty shekels

[01:30:34] of gold.

[01:30:35] If I remember correctly, I think it was fifteen.

[01:30:38] I honestly don't remember.

[01:30:40] Sure.

[01:30:40] I didn't remember the first time through.

[01:30:42] I don't remember what I picked.

[01:30:43] Got it.

[01:30:44] So I don't know if I got that one right or wrong.

[01:30:45] Okay.

[01:30:46] I'm going to guess wrong.

[01:30:47] All right.

[01:30:47] Number six.

[01:30:49] According to Hosea, how many days did the Lord say Israel shall dwell without a king

[01:30:55] or prince?

[01:30:56] A few days, many days, forty days, three hundred ninety days.

[01:31:02] Now read it again.

[01:31:03] I don't I didn't remember even reading about this.

[01:31:05] So, right.

[01:31:06] I don't I didn't know the answer.

[01:31:08] Okay.

[01:31:08] According to Hosea, how many days did the Lord say Israel shall dwell without a king

[01:31:15] or a prince?

[01:31:16] Okay.

[01:31:17] A few days, many days, forty days or three hundred and ninety days.

[01:31:22] I'm going to go with many days because I don't recall a number being thrown out or being

[01:31:27] said at all.

[01:31:28] So I'm going to go with a generalization.

[01:31:30] I went with forty days because I was like, they like the number forty.

[01:31:34] Okay.

[01:31:35] Sure.

[01:31:35] You know, but it was wrong.

[01:31:36] Right.

[01:31:37] So you have a better chance.

[01:31:38] I don't remember what the right answer was.

[01:31:40] Got it.

[01:31:40] Yeah.

[01:31:41] All right.

[01:31:41] Number seven.

[01:31:42] Who is regarded as a cake not turned in the book of Hosea?

[01:31:48] Is it Judah, Ephraim, Assyria or Mishpah?

[01:31:54] Okay.

[01:31:55] And again, who is regarded as, you know, a pancake?

[01:31:59] Yeah.

[01:31:59] Yeah.

[01:31:59] A cake not turned in the book of Hosea.

[01:32:03] Is it Judah, Ephraim, Assyria or Mishpah?

[01:32:08] I am going to go with Ephraim.

[01:32:11] I think that's the one I picked.

[01:32:12] Okay.

[01:32:12] I don't remember if it's right or wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the one I picked.

[01:32:15] Okay.

[01:32:16] Number eight.

[01:32:17] According to Hosea, when the Israelites return, how shall their fame be like?

[01:32:23] The Nile of Egypt, wine of Lebanon, smell of Lebanon, or the mountain of Myrrh?

[01:32:31] Okay.

[01:32:32] I'll read it again.

[01:32:32] Yeah.

[01:32:33] According to Hosea, when the Israelites return, how shall their fame be like?

[01:32:39] Are they going to be like the Nile of Egypt, the wine of Lebanon, the smell of Lebanon, or

[01:32:47] the mountain of Myrrh?

[01:32:49] I am going to go with the wine of Lebanon.

[01:32:53] Okay.

[01:32:53] I don't remember the answer.

[01:32:55] Right.

[01:32:55] Right.

[01:32:56] Number nine.

[01:32:57] How does Hosea describe the ways of the Lord?

[01:33:01] Are his ways wide, deep, right, or beautiful?

[01:33:08] Hmm.

[01:33:09] How does Hosea describe the ways of the Lord?

[01:33:13] Hmm.

[01:33:13] Are his ways wide, deep, right, or beautiful?

[01:33:20] I don't know the answer to this, so I'm going to go with deep.

[01:33:25] Okay.

[01:33:26] Which I have no idea.

[01:33:27] Yeah.

[01:33:27] I did not pick that one.

[01:33:29] I picked right, which I think is the right answer.

[01:33:32] Oh, okay.

[01:33:32] But I could be wrong.

[01:33:33] Right.

[01:33:34] Because I did this a couple days ago, so I don't really remember.

[01:33:36] Sure.

[01:33:36] No, I gotcha.

[01:33:37] I gotcha.

[01:33:37] Number 10.

[01:33:39] According to Hosea, why did Israel stumble?

[01:33:42] Was it because of the enemies were stronger?

[01:33:45] Was it because they had no weapons, because of iniquity, or because they were not careful?

[01:33:52] Let me read it again.

[01:33:53] Sure.

[01:33:54] According to Hosea, why did Israel stumble?

[01:33:58] Because of the enemies were stronger, because they had no weapons, because of iniquity, or

[01:34:05] because they were not careful?

[01:34:07] I think the answer has to be because of iniquity.

[01:34:10] That's what I picked.

[01:34:11] I think it was the right one.

[01:34:13] Right.

[01:34:13] All right.

[01:34:13] Last question.

[01:34:14] Ready?

[01:34:15] Yeah.

[01:34:15] You already said this one.

[01:34:16] Okay.

[01:34:17] You know it.

[01:34:18] Cool.

[01:34:18] What was the name of Hosea's wife?

[01:34:20] Was it Gomer?

[01:34:22] Was it Tamar?

[01:34:23] Was it Rahab?

[01:34:25] Or was it Dinah?

[01:34:27] Let me read it again for the people at home.

[01:34:31] I forgot I was letting people play along.

[01:34:33] Yeah.

[01:34:33] I know this one easy.

[01:34:34] What was the name of Hosea's wife, guys?

[01:34:36] Was it Gomer, Tamar, Rahab, or Dinah?

[01:34:39] It was Gomer.

[01:34:40] It was.

[01:34:40] Yeah.

[01:34:41] All right.

[01:34:41] I think that was easy for everybody.

[01:34:42] Yeah.

[01:34:43] If it wasn't.

[01:34:43] We talked about her earlier in this episode.

[01:34:46] Yeah.

[01:34:46] Well, we talked about her literally.

[01:34:48] I was like, oh, that's a question.

[01:34:51] Yeah.

[01:34:51] Right.

[01:34:52] All right.

[01:34:53] So what did the Lord desire rather than burnt offerings according to the book of Hosea?

[01:34:57] Knowledge of God.

[01:34:58] That is correct.

[01:34:59] And we both got that one right.

[01:35:01] Okay.

[01:35:02] Number two.

[01:35:03] What did the Lord liken Israel's stubbornness to?

[01:35:06] We both had picked stubborn heifer and that is correct.

[01:35:09] Yay.

[01:35:09] Okay.

[01:35:10] Number three.

[01:35:11] Where did the Israelites dwell in the days of the appointed feast?

[01:35:15] We both picked tents and we both got that one right.

[01:35:18] Yay.

[01:35:19] According to Hosea, what will the Lord do after two days?

[01:35:23] We both picked raise us up and that was the wrong answer.

[01:35:27] Really?

[01:35:27] It was revive us.

[01:35:29] Yeah.

[01:35:29] I don't recall that being the wording.

[01:35:31] I thought it was raise us up because I thought it was.

[01:35:35] I do remember.

[01:35:36] Sorry.

[01:35:36] I was teetering between those two because I remember thinking zombies, right?

[01:35:40] So revive would make sense.

[01:35:42] Yeah.

[01:35:42] But the raising you up, I thought it was because they were going to that next level in the heaven

[01:35:47] Let me read the verse.

[01:35:48] Yeah.

[01:35:48] Okay.

[01:35:49] Keeping in mind that the question is after two days.

[01:35:53] Okay.

[01:35:53] Yeah.

[01:35:54] After two days, he will revive us.

[01:35:57] On the third day, he will raise us.

[01:36:00] Oh, that's bullshit.

[01:36:02] Yeah.

[01:36:02] Bullshit.

[01:36:03] That we may live before him.

[01:36:04] I thought.

[01:36:05] I remember them saying raise.

[01:36:06] Yeah.

[01:36:06] Okay.

[01:36:07] It was both, but one was on one day and then one came up the next day.

[01:36:11] All right.

[01:36:11] I will accept that.

[01:36:12] Whatever.

[01:36:13] I think it was a trick question regardless.

[01:36:15] That is a trick question.

[01:36:16] Kind of a bullshit question.

[01:36:17] Right?

[01:36:18] Number.

[01:36:18] I'm going to give that one as like the class gimme, you know?

[01:36:22] All right.

[01:36:23] I see how you are.

[01:36:25] Number five.

[01:36:26] For how much did Hosea buy the adulterous Gomer?

[01:36:30] Right.

[01:36:30] Yeah.

[01:36:31] Was it three shekels, seven shekels, 15 shekels or 30 shekels?

[01:36:35] And the answer was 15.

[01:36:37] Yeah.

[01:36:38] Yeah.

[01:36:39] Got it.

[01:36:39] I don't remember if I got that one wrong or right.

[01:36:42] Got it.

[01:36:42] I think I picked 30.

[01:36:43] I think I got that one wrong.

[01:36:45] Mm-hmm.

[01:36:45] According to Hosea, how many days did the Lord say Israel shall dwell without a king

[01:36:50] or prince?

[01:36:51] I had picked 40 and got it wrong.

[01:36:54] Yeah.

[01:36:54] You picked many days and got it right.

[01:36:56] Yay!

[01:36:56] Yay!

[01:36:57] I'm doing good.

[01:36:58] You are.

[01:36:58] You're kicking this quiz's ass.

[01:37:00] Hell yeah.

[01:37:01] Who is regarded as a cake not turned in the book of Hosea?

[01:37:05] The answer is Ephraim, which we both got right.

[01:37:08] All right.

[01:37:09] Woohoo!

[01:37:09] Yeah.

[01:37:10] According to Hosea, when the Israelites returned, how shall their fame be like?

[01:37:15] I had picked the smell of Lebanon and I got it wrong.

[01:37:20] Ah.

[01:37:20] You picked the wine of Lebanon and got it right.

[01:37:23] All right.

[01:37:24] Yeah.

[01:37:24] Well, at least I had Lebanon in there.

[01:37:26] Right.

[01:37:27] All right.

[01:37:28] This is the one that I said that I got right that you got wrong.

[01:37:31] How does Hosea describe the ways of the Lord?

[01:37:34] Yeah.

[01:37:35] You picked deep, but the correct answer was right.

[01:37:37] Yeah.

[01:37:37] I just didn't know the answer to that.

[01:37:39] Like, I don't recall that in the chapter.

[01:37:41] So, or the book.

[01:37:42] I mean...

[01:37:42] It was in chapter 14, verse 9.

[01:37:45] Whoever is wise, let him understand these things.

[01:37:48] Whoever is discerning, let him know them.

[01:37:50] For the ways of the Lord are right, and the upright walk in them, but the transgressors stumble in them.

[01:37:57] I think I was a little unimpressed with chapter 14, because it was really, like, roofie, like, feel-good bullshit.

[01:38:04] It had the sound of proverbs to it.

[01:38:07] Yeah.

[01:38:07] Like, fuck off.

[01:38:08] And I was kind of like, eh, whatever.

[01:38:10] Right?

[01:38:10] Okay.

[01:38:11] All right.

[01:38:11] Number 10.

[01:38:12] According to Hosea, why did Israel stumble?

[01:38:15] And we both guessed because of iniquity.

[01:38:17] Right.

[01:38:17] It was the only answer that made sense.

[01:38:19] Yeah.

[01:38:20] I think I would have got it even if the choices had been better.

[01:38:23] Sure.

[01:38:23] But the other choices are, they had no weapons.

[01:38:26] They were not careful.

[01:38:27] The enemies were stronger.

[01:38:29] Yeah.

[01:38:29] That was like a gimme question.

[01:38:30] Yeah.

[01:38:30] That was stupid.

[01:38:31] I feel like.

[01:38:32] And then the last one was definitely a gimme.

[01:38:34] Gomer.

[01:38:35] Right.

[01:38:35] Yeah, yeah.

[01:38:35] What was the name of Hosea's wife?

[01:38:37] Gomer.

[01:38:38] I feel like I did pretty damn good.

[01:38:40] You got an 81.

[01:38:42] Holy shit.

[01:38:43] That might be one of my best scores.

[01:38:44] Yeah.

[01:38:45] I usually don't do that good.

[01:38:46] I'm a little jealous, quite honestly.

[01:38:48] Yeah.

[01:38:48] Because, oh, the average has risen.

[01:38:51] When I took it, it said the average was 64.

[01:38:54] Oh.

[01:38:54] Now the average is 65.

[01:38:56] You hit the bell curve.

[01:38:58] Right.

[01:38:59] Yeah.

[01:38:59] Wow.

[01:39:00] Yeah.

[01:39:00] I brought the class down.

[01:39:01] You brought them up.

[01:39:02] I did.

[01:39:03] I did.

[01:39:03] I raised the whole average, a percentage.

[01:39:06] Yeah.

[01:39:06] I feel kind of bad for doing that actually because I'm showing that there's more biblical knowledge

[01:39:12] in the world than there actually is because we're actually studying this shit.

[01:39:15] Right.

[01:39:15] And I only got a 61.

[01:39:18] Yeah.

[01:39:18] And I'm reading it.

[01:39:20] Right.

[01:39:20] Yeah.

[01:39:20] I feel like that's the first time that I failed it and that you did better than me.

[01:39:27] Right.

[01:39:28] And didn't fail it.

[01:39:29] Yeah.

[01:39:29] I was right.

[01:39:31] You were not always wrong.

[01:39:35] You were right.

[01:39:36] I was.

[01:39:37] I was.

[01:39:38] You're sometimes right just at once.

[01:39:41] You know what's funny though?

[01:39:43] What is funny though?

[01:39:44] Sometimes.

[01:39:44] Well, I think that if you were to ask our discord crew who is often right.

[01:39:50] You're often righter than I am.

[01:39:52] I'm often righter than you are.

[01:39:53] Yes.

[01:39:54] Definitely.

[01:39:56] Truth be told, I'm almost always wrong.

[01:39:59] Right.

[01:39:59] Yeah.

[01:40:00] My brain doesn't work.

[01:40:02] I remember things incorrectly and out of order.

[01:40:06] I pick the wrong names every time.

[01:40:09] Guys, to be fair, I mean, wife could go look at a price for a jug of milk.

[01:40:14] And literally come back two seconds later to the cart.

[01:40:18] And I'd ask her how much it was.

[01:40:19] And she would not know.

[01:40:21] I'd have no idea.

[01:40:22] She has no clue.

[01:40:23] I can do algebra.

[01:40:24] Like, I'm not bad at math.

[01:40:26] Right.

[01:40:26] Like, give me a pencil and paper and let me write it down.

[01:40:29] I can tell you everything.

[01:40:31] Well, and you can also, you know, tear apart a story and break it down.

[01:40:34] You're very good at that.

[01:40:35] Oh, and you know what else I could do?

[01:40:37] I could tell you exactly what the shelf looked like, where the milk came from, and who was

[01:40:42] standing there.

[01:40:43] Right.

[01:40:43] And what conversation.

[01:40:44] Like, I could tell you every single thing, all the details that you would have missed,

[01:40:49] except the price of the milk.

[01:40:50] Right.

[01:40:51] Right.

[01:40:51] And that also applies to facts that are extraneous.

[01:40:55] Yeah.

[01:40:55] Right?

[01:40:56] Yeah.

[01:40:56] Extraneous facts you do not hold in your head at all.

[01:40:59] No, I just don't.

[01:41:00] And it's not an act of forgetting.

[01:41:03] It's not.

[01:41:04] I just, they don't stay there.

[01:41:06] Right.

[01:41:06] They just don't stay.

[01:41:07] Yeah.

[01:41:08] But I remember other stuff.

[01:41:10] You do.

[01:41:10] So, you know, we balance each other well.

[01:41:12] Definitely.

[01:41:13] We, together, would make one decent witness.

[01:41:16] All right.

[01:41:20] We got anything else today?

[01:41:21] Or was that, does that wrap up Hosea?

[01:41:23] Bye, Hosea.

[01:41:25] Bye, Hosea.