Bible Study BY Atheists Weekly: Jeremiah Chapters 31 - 35 plus Q&A and Patreon Teaser

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[00:03:22] so last time we were here we did what do we do? We talked about Jeremiah chapter 30 do you remember

[00:03:29] even what happened? Well I cheated I went back and looked so what happened?

[00:03:34] So in Jeremiah chapter 30 God told Jeremiah to write down all the prophecies like conveniently so

[00:03:44] apparently the fact that we have the book of Jeremiah is all thanks to God. Thank God

[00:03:52] I don't know about all that but okay and then of course there was some you know he's gonna

[00:03:57] punish the sins of Judah and then he's gonna deliver them from their sins. He can't get you up

[00:04:02] but then he's gonna get you back. Yeah so and you know it's the general message that we've

[00:04:06] been told all along and then at some point he's gonna bring back a ruler in the Davidic line so

[00:04:12] so there's gonna be a. Oh wait no that's right it was uh it's gonna be the remember we were talking

[00:04:17] about the zombie David yes because we weren't sure whether it was gonna be a zombie David or not

[00:04:21] right yeah it might be because David's line is done. Yeah hypothetically right so it was it was really

[00:04:29] weird bit about that yeah anyway that was Jeremiah chapter 30. Sure as fuck was which means

[00:04:37] that today we're gonna be getting into Jeremiah chapter 30 would all right let's do this. Okidoki

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[00:05:33] easy to know is numbered chapter 38 in the Septoagent the Greek thing. Okay yeah just letting you

[00:05:42] know in case you were curious cared in any way whatsoever it's still out of order it's still a mess

[00:05:48] okay yeah at the same time says the Lord so apparently we're starting mid paragraph always as we do

[00:05:55] yeah I will be the God of all the families of Israel and they shall be my people. Okay I don't

[00:06:02] know that I want God to come to Christmas center or thank you for any of the dinners really yeah he's

[00:06:09] kind of a dick and I feel like he just smite you if he did something wrong yeah he would not be fun no

[00:06:15] he'd be that guy you know yeah he'd be that drunk uncle yeah worse with you know the ability to kill

[00:06:22] you right exactly just by snapping his goddamn fingers. You gave me what piece of the turkey fuck off

[00:06:29] thus says the Lord the people who survived the sword found grace in the wilderness

[00:06:37] Israel when I went to give him rest okay okay the Lord has appeared of old to me Jeremiah saying

[00:06:45] we're going back and forth sometimes it's a quote that God is saying and then like just now was out

[00:06:50] of quote so you know Jeremiah's like he appeared to me of old saying now I'm God again yeah yes I have

[00:06:57] loved you with an everlasting love therefore with loving kindness I have drawn you again I will build

[00:07:04] you and you shall be rebuilt oh virgin of Israel oh she's a virgin again right well because he's

[00:07:10] destroyed all the non virgin aspects apparently she was a whore but then he killed people it's like

[00:07:16] he's cutting out the cysts you know like he's he's he's he's a excising the bad things right

[00:07:22] he's leaving only the good things apparently that just the whole thing that you just said maybe

[00:07:27] think of the movie poor things which I made you watch in what was your opinion about it was a very

[00:07:33] good movie yeah I very much enjoyed it you said it was brilliant it was yeah yeah it was it was really

[00:07:39] good highly recommend I do if if you can not be approved about the nudity and the sex right because

[00:07:47] there was a lot of it it was all part of the story it wasn't gratuitous really right and I keep

[00:07:55] saying it's a movie that is like Frankenstein and the Barbie movie had a baby would you not agree

[00:08:02] with that assessment yeah yeah that's pretty good right right okay anyway God is still talking how

[00:08:10] israel's a virgin yeah you shall again be adorned with your tambourines I always dress up with

[00:08:17] tambourines I didn't know that we were we were adorned in the past with tambourines was that a thing

[00:08:22] when I wasn't a whore yes they had tambourines that was I don't recall tambourines being mentioned

[00:08:27] before we don't recall when I had tambourines all over me how could you forget okay no no no

[00:08:35] and shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice you shall yet plant vines on the mountains

[00:08:42] of samaria the planters shall plant and eat them as ordinary food the way you do it with

[00:08:48] food yeah that's what you do with food for there shall be a day when the watchman will cry on mount

[00:08:55] e from arise and let us go up to Zion to the Lord our God for thus says the Lord sing with

[00:09:02] gladness for Jacob and shout among the chief of the nations proclaim give praise and say oh Lord

[00:09:09] save your people the remnant of israel behold I will bring them from the north country and gather

[00:09:16] them from the ends of the earth among them the blind and the lame the woman with child and the one

[00:09:23] who labors with child together a great throng shall return there they shall come with weeping and

[00:09:30] with supplications I will lead them I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight

[00:09:37] way in which they shall not stumble for I am a father to israel and e from is my first born

[00:09:45] which is interesting because e from was not actually born first you know his twin was

[00:09:50] is that was that that story yeah okay yeah all right I know because I read him I know okay okay

[00:09:56] that's the one where they they fought and like yeah yeah okay so basically what that says is that

[00:10:02] the rights that go to first born are not necessarily about the first out of the womb it's about

[00:10:09] the one that you name and declare your firstborn I see so okay so that way it's not up to okay all right

[00:10:17] so birthright doesn't necessarily guarantee you birthright exactly exactly hear the word of the

[00:10:25] Lord donations and declare it in the aisles afar and say he who scattered israel will gather him

[00:10:32] and keep him as a shepherd does his flock for the Lord has redeemed Jacob and ransomed him from

[00:10:39] the hand of one stronger than he to be clear he's saying that he was the one that scattered him

[00:10:45] in that in that statement there scattered shattered smothered company like he's he's admitting

[00:10:51] I scattered you yeah and now I'm going to reclaim you yeah so okay no I just I mean there's a lot

[00:10:58] of people that will say that God is you know wonderful and good and all this but this these acts

[00:11:04] of where he is just absolutely horrible and ruins people's lives no they brought it on themselves

[00:11:09] it's a fuck that they brought it on them so no no no I mean large swaths of people don't bring

[00:11:16] anything on themselves right that's not how that works right there there there can be some bad

[00:11:20] actors there can be a lot of bad bad actors but I guarantee that not every single one of them was bad

[00:11:25] right so you fuck people over yeah you fuck people over and you scattered them turn them into slaves

[00:11:31] had them you know taken away into other lands that was on you yeah yeah yeah you brought them back

[00:11:37] I guess so I think we've said before that's like stabbing somebody but then being the one that

[00:11:43] cleans them up and cleans up the bloody mess and so's them back up and says aren't you glad I I saved

[00:11:50] you you could have died just that right like yes yes I could have asshole therefore they shall come

[00:11:57] and sing in the height of Zion streaming to the goodness of the Lord for wheat and new wine and oil

[00:12:05] for the young of the flock and the herd their souls shall be like a well-watered garden and they shall

[00:12:12] sorrow no more at all sounds I mean really great for these people that lived through this right yeah

[00:12:18] I guess then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance and the young men and the old together

[00:12:27] for I will turn their mourning to joy we'll comfort them and make them rejoice rather than sorrow

[00:12:34] don't cry over all the people that I killed some of which were probably your family members

[00:12:39] and your loved ones don't cry don't mourn them but he's also claiming that he can change their

[00:12:44] hearts right like he's he's saying I'm going to change how you feel about this situation I'm going

[00:12:49] to cause you to be happy me God I'm going to cause you to be this way but he wasn't willing to do it

[00:12:55] before when people were not that way not the way he wanted before he wouldn't change them so he didn't

[00:13:00] he went ahead and killed them right he got rid of them but he's willing to change these people

[00:13:07] because what they're better but he made them all okay hold on I think maybe you're reading into it

[00:13:14] when he says I will turn their mourning to joy I don't think he's saying that I am going to

[00:13:20] magic their hearts I think he's saying I'm going to be so loving to them that they will of course

[00:13:26] stop mourning of course they'll be happy then okay I think that's what he's saying that's my

[00:13:31] thing I just there's been so much you know throughout the Bible where he's been able to do these

[00:13:36] certain things where he changed his people's hearts yeah so to say that is a little bit misleading

[00:13:41] if he's actually doing that it is I totally agree but I think here he's saying that you're

[00:13:46] going to be so happy just wait you'll see you'll see how happy you're going to be right right

[00:13:51] I will satiate the soul of the priests with abundance and my people shall be satisfied with my

[00:13:57] goodness says the Lord okay thus says the Lord a voice was heard in Rama lamentation

[00:14:06] and bitter weeping Rachel weeping for her children refusing to be comforted for her children

[00:14:12] because they are no more Rachel is in like Abraham's yes and I really know that was Sarah wasn't it

[00:14:18] or um who was Rachel hold on hold on I have a thing about that okay Rachel was Jacob's wife

[00:14:26] that's right and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin and her crying is her because she's lamenting

[00:14:33] her descendants both the northern and southern tribes okay yeah and they're being carried away

[00:14:41] to exile for their sins and so she's weeping that they will be no more okay but she's also figuratively

[00:14:47] grieving later when the children were brutally murdered in the area of Bethlehem where she died

[00:14:55] and that was back in Genesis okay yeah so it's just this whole like symbolism thing got it okay yep

[00:15:03] all right um blah blah blah sad weeping blah blah blah thus says the Lord refrain your voice from

[00:15:10] weeping and your eyes from tears for your work shall be rewarded says the Lord and they shall come

[00:15:16] back from the land of the enemy there is hope in your future says the Lord that your children shall

[00:15:22] come back to their own border I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself you have chastised me and

[00:15:30] I was chastised like an untrained bull restore me and I will return for you are the Lord my god

[00:15:39] surely after my turning I repented and after I was instructed I struck myself on the thigh

[00:15:46] I was ashamed yes even humiliated because I bore the reproach of my youth see this is a lot of like

[00:15:55] forgiveness and yay and back to the like we're gonna restore and and happiness with you know

[00:16:02] like this is this is a different tone than we've had throughout Jeremiah well I mean

[00:16:08] it's like we're past the punishment stage and like we're going into the like he's reading the future

[00:16:13] yeah okay this is a prophecy a dream that um Jeremiah is having okay all right dream prophecy

[00:16:20] this is the restored Israel this is the the better Israel yes yes all right is Ephraim my dear son

[00:16:27] is he a pleasant child for though I spoke against him I earnestly remember him still

[00:16:34] therefore my heart yearns for him I will surely have mercy on him says the Lord but I have to read a

[00:16:40] note about that because it made me laugh okay the Hebrew text literally reads my bowels rumble for him

[00:16:47] instead of my heart yearns for him okay because it means um that you know my stomach is all

[00:16:55] knotted up over this okay all right but I really like my bowels rumble for him yeah that's a lot

[00:17:01] better sounds like you need some pepto mm-hmm I just I had to read that note I just thought that was too

[00:17:06] funny okay um let's see set up signposts make landmarks set your heart toward the highway

[00:17:15] the way in which you went right that highway except it's the highway to Israel and Jerusalem

[00:17:26] the highway to heaven no I mean it's not heaven it's that yeah no no all right I mean all right you

[00:17:34] could consider it hell maybe because you never know what God's gonna do later because he's kind of

[00:17:38] a dick and we'll probably kill some other generation so I feel like I would try to just leave the

[00:17:43] land altogether right like maybe if I just get as far away as possible I won't have to deal with

[00:17:47] this asshole anymore I don't really require the company of all of the other Israelites y'all go

[00:17:54] ahead do your thing right go be with God or not yeah he seems kind of fickle to me so I'm gonna out

[00:18:00] yeah I got about you really got some spices out the out what was that east yeah yeah so I'm

[00:18:07] gonna go east yeah I'm heading toward China yeah yeah turn back over to the version of Israel turn

[00:18:14] back to these your cities how long will you get about oh you backsliding daughter for the Lord

[00:18:22] has created a new thing in the earth a woman shall encompass a man okay I gotta know about that

[00:18:29] yeah this is an interestingly weird weirdly phrased chapter yes yes keep in mind these are all

[00:18:36] out of order yeah I got it yeah so a woman shall encompass a man sure right yeah I'm curious so

[00:18:45] according to the notes that I read what this means according to these translations

[00:18:51] okay questionable at best sure is that Israel will be so blessed and secure in God's restoration

[00:18:58] that even the women among them could protect the men and the people as a whole the men folk will be

[00:19:04] able to go about their work for the risk of attack will be so minimal that security can be safely

[00:19:11] left to the weaker sex so they not only so they found a way to to praise women but still make it a

[00:19:19] cut on women yes is that basically what you're telling me yes like they're like they they will be

[00:19:24] able to protect you because that's how easy it will be even these weak pieces of shit women could do

[00:19:31] it yes thank you for that I appreciate the the Bible could have almost redeemed themselves right yeah but no

[00:19:40] no they decided not yeah yeah thus says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel they shall again use this

[00:19:49] speech in the land of Judah and in it cities when I bring back their captivity the Lord bless you

[00:19:57] oh home of justice and mountain of holiness and there shall dwell in Judah itself and then all

[00:20:04] it cities together farmers and those going out with flocks for I have satiated the weary soul

[00:20:12] and I have replenished every sorrowful soul okay now I'm back to being Jeremiah okay after this I

[00:20:19] awoke and looked around and my sleep was sweet to me okay because he just woke up from this wonderful

[00:20:27] dream where israel's like saved man it's gonna be awesome yeah what a great dream what is

[00:20:33] like a Israel Jewish theme park man oh god's like awesome and he takes care of everybody and even the

[00:20:39] women even the women can protect me man I know right so cool even those pieces shit we gas little

[00:20:45] things with tits can protect me can you believe it okay now we're gonna read about some new

[00:20:52] covenants oh new covenants yes this is very exciting stuff is this this covenants that okay I did

[00:20:59] they just made with Jeremiah like did Jeremiah like agree to these for us or something or what

[00:21:03] I have no idea because he's the only one talking to god right now right I haven't read this so I

[00:21:08] don't know all right let's find out yeah I've only read the notes about it okay yeah I haven't

[00:21:14] actually read the words all right yeah behold the days are coming says the lord that I will

[00:21:21] sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and the seed of beast that sounds

[00:21:27] like sperm yes it does sperm is seeds right right okay so he's gonna come all over us

[00:21:38] can't be what he's trying to say oh god oh god you put your dick back oh my gosh

[00:21:47] initial come to pass that as I have watched over them to pluck up to break down to throw down to

[00:21:53] destroy and to afflict so I will watch over them to build and to plant says the lord okay

[00:22:03] I can fuck you up and I can raise you back up sure it's like it's like a mother fucker he's

[00:22:09] he's playing with fucking Legos it's like playing with Lincoln logs he's playing with his army men

[00:22:15] he's let me like what the fuck it's like he's looking down at us singing you get knocked down and you

[00:22:21] get up again but only because a magical you get knocked down right yeah yeah in those days they shall

[00:22:30] say no more the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge you know

[00:22:37] the way they've been saying that sure they're not gonna say that anymore because he's gonna build

[00:22:41] him back up and then knock him down but everyone shall die for his own iniquity just so you know

[00:22:49] everyone dies regardless just to be clear okay every man who eats the sour grapes his teeth shall

[00:22:55] be set on edge what is your teeth being set on edge mean exactly um gritting your teeth or

[00:23:02] business like irritation okay like if I hear a strange noise that I don't like it sets my teeth

[00:23:10] okay yeah behold the days are coming says the Lord when I will make a new covenant with the house

[00:23:17] of Israel and with the house of Judah not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers

[00:23:23] and the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt my covenant which

[00:23:27] they broke though I was husband to them says the Lord so that one scrapped right no no this is

[00:23:32] an addition oh this is an addition too yeah okay I'm you we made a promise to each other and y'all

[00:23:37] broke it but it's still there and now we're gonna make even more doesn't that sound fun I see so

[00:23:42] even though they broke it it's still he's still like but no it's still I'm still binding yeah

[00:23:46] to it yeah so that's a thing yeah okay but this is the covenant that I will make with the house of

[00:23:52] Israel after those days says the Lord I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts

[00:23:59] hmm and I will be their God and they shall be my mother fucking people you know what I

[00:24:06] if that is true if that were to actually be true yeah I could be okay with that like if you

[00:24:12] were to literally out of the womb right if God were real like in a hypothetical scenario if God

[00:24:18] were real and you came into this world knowing and I mean knowing right no God the God's law is God's

[00:24:27] law yeah right and the God was real yeah and it was put there automatically magically magically

[00:24:33] right you were right but if it was there I that would be like and and people chose to go against it

[00:24:41] regardless of having this knowledge that would be something that would be punishable I feel like

[00:24:46] yeah but that's not what's happening no that we don't we don't we don't have any any inkling

[00:24:51] that God actually exists there is no law until somebody not till somebody moves to your neighborhood

[00:24:57] and starts knocking on your door right yeah that's my the law is written on my no soliciting sign

[00:25:03] right no more shall every man teach his neighbor and every man his brother saying no the Lord

[00:25:10] for they shall just know me from the least of them to the greatest of them says the Lord so

[00:25:16] again I feel like I'm not a fault here because my heart was not written on no my neither you know

[00:25:21] and I feel like I'm clear of any wrong doing here because apparently God is failing this is covenant

[00:25:27] here he missed a few yeah I think God I think God dipped out yeah for I will forgive their

[00:25:35] iniquity and their sin I will remember no more okay but I got a few notes here okay all right

[00:25:41] all right so when he said behold the days are coming yeah okay the Jewish view of the wording

[00:25:48] new covenant is no more than a renewed national commitment to abide by God's laws in this view the

[00:25:56] word new does not refer to a new commitment that replaces a previous one okay like I said but rather

[00:26:04] to an additional and greater level of commitment right right so after the fall of humanity and

[00:26:11] Genesis that's when the story of a series of covenants begins yeah so let me tell you about those

[00:26:18] real briefly here just to remind us of all the covenants that we've had okay okay there was

[00:26:24] the Abrahamic covenant in Genesis and that was a promise to Abraham and his descendants that

[00:26:30] a land a nation and a blessing will be extended to all nations okay yeah then there was the mosaic

[00:26:36] or the son I covenant that was an Exodus and that's when Israel was given the law the sacrifices

[00:26:44] and the choice of blessing or curse okay okay and then there was in second Samuel the Davidic covenant

[00:26:52] promised and everlasting dynasty a perfect ruler and the promised Messiah okay yeah so this is a

[00:27:00] new one okay where he's gonna write on our hearts yeah yeah in addition to all those sure

[00:27:05] still hold true okay all right and also when he says on your hearts what he means is your

[00:27:14] inmost being your mind sure your soul if you were right I get that but I call bullshit no I agree

[00:27:22] because that was like there was never a point in my life yeah where I was like oh God yeah

[00:27:27] don't look I mean that's not the only the only time that there was God was an outside influence

[00:27:32] trying to come into my life and with that entity the outside influence was people yeah yeah and it

[00:27:38] was weird people I mean it was my neighbors and it was my friends but I mean still it was it was

[00:27:44] weird though the message was weird so the message never tracked it never made sense it was never

[00:27:50] logical it was always are you saved I don't know what that means is there a fire coming

[00:27:58] save from murder hornets right I don't know what you mean by that I've never heard those words

[00:28:05] pleased to explain yeah yeah thus says the Lord who gives the sun for a light by day the ordinances

[00:28:13] of the moon and the stars for a light by night who disturbs the sea and its waves roar

[00:28:20] the lord of hosts is his name okay so that was all an introduction to what he's about to

[00:28:26] say thus says the Lord right yeah if those ordinances depart from before me says the Lord

[00:28:33] yeah then the seed of Israel shall also cease from being a nation before me forever okay um

[00:28:42] just don't you pray yeah just don't then thus says the Lord if heaven above can be measured

[00:28:50] and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath I will also cast off all the seed of Israel

[00:28:57] for all that they have done says the Lord okay okay like I'm not really yeah if it can be okay

[00:29:04] I'm I'm not really following what he's getting like I'm gonna write this on your heart and if you don't

[00:29:10] believe it then you suck okay if it's not in your heart then you suck like wait what but you're

[00:29:16] gonna write it there so it should be fine right right he's like no I'm giving you the pen you have

[00:29:22] to write it yourself but there's no ink in the pen will you have to go get ink too mine doesn't

[00:29:28] have a clicky the clicky is broken will you got to go get the spring for it too so you're giving me

[00:29:33] nothing that is correct I mean as usual we're getting nothing so you know it's not it's to be expected

[00:29:39] yeah yeah so it's a false promise as usual right kind of like a rainbow false promise yeah well I

[00:29:46] mean yeah yeah behold the days are comments as the Lord that the city shall be built for the Lord

[00:29:52] from the Tower of Henanel to the corner gate I have some notes okay so Tower of Henanel or

[00:30:00] Henanel was located at the northeast corner in the walls of Jerusalem and that's per Niamaya okay

[00:30:08] adjoining the Tower of Mia which was also the Tower of the Hundred to the East and midway between

[00:30:16] the sheep gate and the fish gate oh okay it was located at a point of the city always requiring

[00:30:23] special fortification and Henanel means God's grace okay yeah now the gate of the corner or

[00:30:33] corner gate if you will yeah was located to the northwest of Jerusalem per second kings

[00:30:40] and was a part of expansion to the northwest side of the city under Yuzaya and Hezekiah so

[00:30:48] so God's getting involved in city planning is that what we're correct correct I feel I feel like

[00:30:54] I feel like God should be more than just like a city planning management well part of what he's

[00:30:59] saying is that you guys will have expanded your group so you'll you'll have had so many babies

[00:31:09] your population will have grown so much that your city walls will expand beyond what the city

[00:31:16] currently is sure I get that but like okay well let's just let's just take this in large chunks right

[00:31:21] early on in the Bible God was like you will be more than the sands of the beach right you will be

[00:31:26] more than the stars in the sky right right that's a pretty grandiose idea as to what yeah you know

[00:31:32] how many people are gonna be right it's amazing it goes to show that they didn't know how to count high

[00:31:37] right right yes we have now narrowed our focus so far down that the really the only thing we have

[00:31:43] cared about recently is Jerusalem at all yeah like now all we care about is this this fucking city

[00:31:49] mm-hmm right and God has has been relegated to a god damn city planner yeah as opposed to a god

[00:31:56] that rules the universe yeah you know like it they have it is such a specific thing now yeah

[00:32:03] that is so focused on what and where they are at this moment in time that we're reading about

[00:32:09] mm-hmm that it almost loses all meaning to me at all because right who gives a fuck about

[00:32:14] Jerusalem honestly if you're in the grand scheme of things in that area the grand scheme of things

[00:32:19] nothing right yeah I don't mean to say that we don't give a fuck about Jerusalem I mean to say that

[00:32:24] in the grand scheme of things when we're talking about a fucking God yeah we should be talking

[00:32:28] in larger scales than just a god damn city yeah yeah no I totally agree with you it also kind of

[00:32:35] goes to show that they have a little bit better understanding of what's outside their tribe

[00:32:42] and that oh god isn't just like like like we're not the whole world oh shit I didn't know

[00:32:53] it's also it's also like they've come to realize that no there really can be more than one god

[00:33:00] because we don't even know all of the the pieces of this planet yet well it does feel a little bit

[00:33:05] like they're pulling back within themselves you know like like we've been strewn apart into all

[00:33:09] these foreign lands mm-hmm we need to regroup in our small town here and build again yeah yeah you know

[00:33:14] but that's that's not that's not a bad thing that's a people thing right right I'm saying like

[00:33:20] as as a person reading the bible for the first time right mm-hmm it doesn't sound powerful it

[00:33:26] doesn't sound godly it just sounds like people trying to fix their shit like before it was cute

[00:33:33] little people who just didn't know better and now it's um scared little people who'd know better

[00:33:40] and are in sconce in politics right and that makes it a lot like it was it was like at the beginning

[00:33:50] we could compare it to any other group of people who didn't know better and it was all history right

[00:33:56] now is just like oh y'all suck just like any other group of politics right right right that's

[00:34:04] that's what I mean yeah all right but we're coming up on the end here okay yeah the surveyor's line

[00:34:10] shall again extend straightforward over the hill garab then it shall turn towards go ask

[00:34:16] okay sure let me let me talk about those little bits okay okay so the hill of garab or garab is

[00:34:24] usually translated as hill of lepers or lepers hill and is the name of a height from the Jerusalem

[00:34:32] area it was likely outside Jerusalem city walls and the time of Jeremiah until the destruction of

[00:34:38] Jerusalem in 586 or seven BCE but at least in part within the city walls after the reconstruction

[00:34:47] under neomaya okay goath or the hill of death or of roaring of groaning so this is where the sickies

[00:34:58] came in and left okay yeah is a hill near Jerusalem from the context we learned that garab and goath

[00:35:04] were unclean places sounds that way yeah right but being measured in with the holy city became sanctified

[00:35:13] that the goath hill of Jeremiah is identical with the Golgatha of the Christian evangelists

[00:35:21] Calvary a site immediately outside Jerusalem's walls where according to the New Testament

[00:35:27] Gospels Jesus was crucified is more than probable okay which I found very interesting yeah yeah so

[00:35:36] they like made this the the the sickie place is also where Jesus was crucified got it cool cool

[00:35:45] right okay and the whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes and all the fields as far as

[00:35:54] the brook kidrin to the corner of the horse gate toward the east shall be holy to the Lord it

[00:36:02] shall not be plucked up or thrown down any more forever at the end okay so gods a city planner like

[00:36:08] you said city planner yeah whatever yes this is ridiculous it really is like all magic is gone

[00:36:16] there is nothing for it oh get out your ruler it's like when he was giving specific instructions

[00:36:24] on how to build the fucking ark right oh my god that was so bad but do you really think God gives

[00:36:28] a fuck about math and geography no no I don't look to begin with I don't believe that there is a

[00:36:35] God right but like the things that we keep reading about yes look all your God is I know you can

[00:36:41] take this any way you want to right like there there are probably we probably missed on pulling out

[00:36:45] the beautiful aspects of what we just read right I'm sure that we could make it sound so much better

[00:36:51] yeah but just in reading that the things that I am prone to respond to yeah are the the not

[00:36:57] you know like this is not something that is like even on par with what a

[00:37:03] universe building God right yeah it's not how I imagine a God should be no this is maybe

[00:37:09] that's on me maybe I'm lacking I like my God to be big and not to give a shit about things like

[00:37:15] that but this is so small yes so small and so I mean you know like there I've talked about it

[00:37:22] before but like there's that meme out there for that they're like everything that ever happened in

[00:37:26] the Bible happened within this circle and it's just like this small circle on the globe yeah

[00:37:30] and it's so true like everything is just focused on this one area because that's all that was

[00:37:35] important to them that's all they knew because it was written by humans who only knew a small portion

[00:37:40] of the earth yep and that's what we now have as a overriding religion that affects the western

[00:37:50] world right and it just it blows me away that people take this book that we're reading right now as

[00:37:57] the gospel you know like a how do they not see how tiny this is how stupid how do they not see

[00:38:05] it as stupid well I keep getting told that when we get to the New Testament that was going to you

[00:38:09] know that's all that really matters this is just the history and this is you know blah blah blah but

[00:38:13] I'm like no this is this is the same God we're talking about yeah you can't say that it's you're you

[00:38:19] put the Old Testament in the Bible okay so the Bible God I'm reading the Bible and this is some

[00:38:26] fucked up stupid shit and all that happened in the New Testament is that um he he got a little bit

[00:38:34] nicer maybe a little bit more like oh they're really not listening so okay I'll go down and see

[00:38:40] right and I'm like but you're God how did you not already know right you're God yeah why are you

[00:38:46] why is there God so small that's what I always come back to yeah why is your God so lacking

[00:38:53] and fundamental understanding why is your God so incapable of knowing history and geography why

[00:39:02] is your God so lacking in kindness and love and ability to foster that in people why is your

[00:39:11] God so small right why do you have such a puny God honestly on that note that was Jeremiah chapter 31

[00:39:22] it sure as fuck was which means we'll be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 32 and if you would

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[00:40:07] husband wave do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today

[00:40:12] well we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 31 we sure as fuck did and in that chapter Jeremiah had

[00:40:18] a dream I had a dream and then uh let's see I think God got demoted to a city planner he did

[00:40:28] yeah it's an urban um urban development expert yes that's what I was trying to think of yes specifically

[00:40:34] for Jerusalem yes yeah yes so that was I mean pretty much the gist of yesterday yeah basically

[00:40:41] he dreamed all good things for for Jerusalem israel jake up whatever yeah and then

[00:40:48] I mean god started planning the city of Jerusalem yeah and that was that was pretty much it yeah

[00:40:54] so that was Jeremiah chapter 31 yes it was which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 32

[00:41:01] all right let's do this oh gido ki okay we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 32

[00:41:18] which in the septuogen is numbered as Jeremiah chapter 39 okay listeners if you could just see

[00:41:26] husbands fade and how much I don't give a fuck well it's just a constant reminder that these

[00:41:34] were stapled out of order well again we haven't researched this we don't know that there's not

[00:41:40] extra stuff like that's why that's why I take issue with it because we don't really know why it's

[00:41:45] that way so well the Greek translation came before this so right no I understand but they might

[00:41:52] they're that's what I'm saying there might be more in the Greek translation and less than this one

[00:41:57] and that's why it's over here versus there so I I only take issue with it because we don't actually

[00:42:03] know why it's out of order when it's just usually further on is all right so it just sounds like

[00:42:09] there's more in the Greek translation than there is in this version not that I have seen but I will

[00:42:16] get back to you on that well that's what I'm saying we should do a little bit of research into it

[00:42:19] and find out that's all right but you know just on the since we keep mentioning yeah

[00:42:24] that it's out of order we should say why it's out of order well because the Greeks did it better

[00:42:33] all right that was my first note okay my second note is do you remember if you build it they will come

[00:42:42] the field of dreams the movie yes yes I do I do remember that I'm just going to put that out there

[00:42:47] okay you put that out there like it was something that we all have to know just intuitively yes okay if

[00:42:52] you build it they will come right right feel the space ball game baseball movie a field a field yeah yeah

[00:42:58] okay uh-huh that's all I'm going to say and then we'll circle back around to that okay okay all right

[00:43:04] so chapter 32 in this translation here we go the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord in the

[00:43:13] 10th year of Zedekaya king of Judah which was the 18th year of Nebuchadnezzar and FYI just to

[00:43:22] put that in a little bit of context the 10th year of Zedekaya king of Judah was 588 BCE and at that

[00:43:31] time the siege was ongoing against Jerusalem okay right so Jeremiah supposedly wrote this even as

[00:43:39] Babylon's army besieged Jerusalem okay okay for then the king of Babylon's army besieged Jerusalem

[00:43:50] and Jeremiah the prophet was shut up in the court of the prison oh he was put in jail I see

[00:43:55] which was in the king of Judah's house so he's in jail now okay the king Lee prison it's decent

[00:44:03] yeah it's not what you might imagine it's not like a dungeon it's like a white collar prison

[00:44:07] but he's still in jail though yeah he's prisoner okay for Zedekaya king of Judah had shut him up saying

[00:44:14] why do you prophecy and say this is the Lord behold I will give the city into the hand of the

[00:44:20] king of Babylon and he shall take it and Zedekaya king of Judah should not escape from the hand

[00:44:27] of the Chaldeans but she'll surely be delivered into the end of the king of Babylon and so speak with

[00:44:33] him face to face and see him eye to eye oh this okay I did not realize when I first started that

[00:44:40] in that like yeah you're gonna be going on for a while I forget that when they're whiny the

[00:44:46] their sentences are long uh-huh but anyway so this is still um Zedekaya like going why you keep

[00:44:54] seeing this right right then he shall lead Zedekaya to Babylon and there he shall be until I visit him

[00:45:01] says the Lord so you fight with the Chaldeans and you shall not succeed okay okay that's the end of

[00:45:08] that I look I have to interject here because um I earlier we said you know with him talking all this

[00:45:15] with Jeremiah talking all this shit about how Babylon is going to take over Jerusalem right uh-huh he

[00:45:22] sounds a little bit like he's plotting with the bad guys yeah the enemy the the people that are coming

[00:45:29] in right yeah so I don't really blame a king for being like hey fucker yeah shut the fuck up and

[00:45:36] you know I don't know what side you're fucking on here so you are going in jail I am going to

[00:45:40] stick you in this prison now right cuz you sound a lot like a trader yeah yeah he does he sounds

[00:45:46] a lot like a fuck a trader even if he's the most innocent innocent person that ever was innocent

[00:45:51] he still sounds like a trader right yeah so yeah anyway so that king's like why you keep seeing

[00:45:57] that and so Jeremiah said well the word of the Lord came to me saying behold henna mel the son

[00:46:06] of Shalom your uncle will come to you saying by my field which is an anothoth for the right of

[00:46:14] redemption as yours to buy it then henna mel my uncle son came to me in the court of the prison

[00:46:20] according to the word of the Lord and said to me please by my field that is an anothoth

[00:46:26] hold on now God's predicting people selling fields yes okay I'll get back to that I'm okay yeah which

[00:46:32] is in the country of Benjamin for the right of inheritance is yours and the redemption yours

[00:46:37] buy it for yourself okay so first okay so he's in jail right Jeremiah's in jail right he had a dream

[00:46:45] that God told him that this was going to happen right and then guess what it happened it happened

[00:46:51] I I take you like why is God okay because he's gonna he's proving a point here right yes yes but that's

[00:47:01] still crap it is crap but what we're supposed to take from this what we're supposed to learn here

[00:47:10] is that this was a sign yes do buy this land for one day it will be yours again and to have faith

[00:47:18] okay that's what this is about but if they're gonna be exiled for 70 years it's not technically

[00:47:23] gonna be his again because he's gonna be long dead right but it will be his descendants okay and

[00:47:28] that happens all right so it's saying buy this even knowing that the Babylon's are sacked in this

[00:47:35] place but also Jeremiah didn't ever have a wife because number he didn't have a wife yeah so like

[00:47:42] what good does this do him to buy the land other than just to fulfill the prophecy well it doesn't

[00:47:46] go to his children obviously since he doesn't have any but he can still bequeathed the land to

[00:47:51] whomever so he pleases all right all right then continue Jeremiah I knew that this was the word of

[00:47:58] the Lord you know because first I dreamed it then it happened yeah so I bought the field see if you

[00:48:03] build it they will come yeah I bought the field from Hannah Mel the son of my uncle who was in Anathoth

[00:48:10] and weighed out to him the money 17 shekels of silver and I signed to the deed and sealed it took

[00:48:17] witnesses and weighed the money on the scales so I took the purchase deed both that which was sealed

[00:48:25] according to the law and custom and that which was open and I gave the purchase deed to Baruch the son

[00:48:32] of Nariah son of Mausiah in the presence of Hannah Mel my uncle son and in the presence of the

[00:48:39] witnesses who signed the purchase deed before all the Jews who sat in the court of the prison okay so

[00:48:47] he did this all fair and square and in front of it okay then I charged Baruch before them saying thus

[00:48:55] says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel take these deeds both this purchase deed which is sealed

[00:49:03] and this deed which is open and put them in an earthen vessel that they may last many days for thus

[00:49:11] says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel houses and fields and vineyards shall be possessed again

[00:49:19] in this land okay so I have some notes okay I mean it sounds like he's so he's preserving he's

[00:49:25] he's saying buy this because it's still going to be valuable later on even though it's completely

[00:49:30] invaluable right now right yeah so as we pointed out Jeremiah was in prison because Zedikaya

[00:49:38] considered Jeremiah a traitor since he forecast the defeat of the city and the captivity of the king

[00:49:44] so we knew that okay with regard to that whole by the land thing with Babylonian army surrounding

[00:49:52] Jerusalem the enemy already occupied Anathoth so they're already in in the city yeah run in a

[00:50:01] muck and I'm assuming this also like is a way for Jeremiah to prove that what he's saying holds

[00:50:09] weight because he's buying into his own belief exactly exactly that's where I'm going with this okay so

[00:50:15] Jeremiah was literally being offered land that was already under Babylonian control right and

[00:50:22] this passage reveals to that the ancient laws of land tenure were still being followed in Judah

[00:50:28] in spite of all their pagan practices like they had a lot of you know like the new age stuff like

[00:50:35] new age to them right sure but they were still with legalities following the old ways so they

[00:50:42] did know better to some degree of what was right and what was wrong since they were still following

[00:50:49] old rules all right I don't know how I feel about that because right honestly like land purchases is

[00:50:56] completely separate from God worship fucking under a tree right yeah that's not even like remotely

[00:51:02] the same no I know it's just some of the old ways had persisted all right that's all yeah so

[00:51:10] I know that you heard me mention Baruch right that's the person that he chose as his witness

[00:51:16] said he's like take this and bury it in an earthen pot yeah right so Baruch is the guy that either

[00:51:25] co-wrote this or wrote all of his students meant mentee right yeah yes so Baruch is mentioned here for

[00:51:34] the first time as a companion and witness for Jeremiah okay he was the scribe disciple secretary

[00:51:41] and devoted friend of the prophet Jeremiah he is traditionally credited with authoring the book

[00:51:47] of Baruch so we're going to be reading more about him later and at least some parts of the book of

[00:51:53] Jeremiah I think there was more to it since he wasn't allowed to have a wife oh I guarantee there was

[00:51:58] more to it and I guarantee also that it was probably just fine right and then we care more today than

[00:52:04] they did back then right yeah that's my guess yeah so Jeremiah put the title deeds in an earthen

[00:52:11] where pot for safekeeping because he had faith that some relative in a later generation would

[00:52:17] receive the right to inherit the land when the people returned from captivity okay yeah

[00:52:23] so that's what that was about right okay um now when I had delivered the purchase deed to Baruch

[00:52:29] the son of Nariah I prayed to the Lord saying oh Lord God behold you have made the heavens and the earth

[00:52:36] by your great power and outstretched arm there is nothing too hard for you that's what she said

[00:52:44] you show loving kindness to thousands and repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of

[00:52:49] their children after them they should never say bosom it's just not right well I mean yeah bosoms

[00:52:56] is your boobies right right the great the mighty god whose name is the Lord of hosts you are

[00:53:04] grading counsel and mighty in work for your eyes are open to all the ways of the sons of men

[00:53:11] to give everyone according to his ways and according to the fruit of his doings oh this is so

[00:53:17] crazy it really is gross you have set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt to this day

[00:53:25] and in Israel and among other men oh my god it's so so crazy you have made yourself a name as it is

[00:53:34] this day you have brought your people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs and wonders

[00:53:41] with a strong hand and an outstretched arm and with great terror I mean there was definitely some great

[00:53:48] terror that's for sure you have given them this land of which you swore to their fathers to give them

[00:53:54] a land flowing with milk and honey that he's now taking away and they came in and took possession of it

[00:54:00] but they have not obeyed your voice or walked in your law romp romp they have done nothing of all

[00:54:07] that you commanded them to do therefore you have caused all this calamity to come upon them look the

[00:54:14] siege mounds they have come to the city to take it and the city has been given into the hand of

[00:54:20] the chaldeans who fight against it because of the sword and famine and pestilence what you have

[00:54:26] spoken has happened there you see it probably because he's a traitor right yeah no again I

[00:54:33] said this the other day but like I take issue with the fact that nobody was following the right

[00:54:39] hat no nobody was a good person right right take issue with that because to state that just across

[00:54:45] the board right yeah we're we're to assume that Jeremiah is a good person right sure and probably his

[00:54:50] buddy Baruch is a good person right yeah and those other priestly people were good people right sure

[00:54:56] you're telling me that there is no other person in Jerusalem that was good and that these people

[00:55:01] all willing to have their fucking homeland sacked just approved to the rest of the people who sucked

[00:55:07] that God isn't charged no I don't buy it I don't buy it either I just don't just doesn't sound

[00:55:13] right and if you have people I don't care how few but if you have people in their town and your city

[00:55:20] that do worship correctly and that are correct people then why don't you just kill the rest of them

[00:55:24] and let those few people restart yeah like I don't understand why we gotta go through the 70 year

[00:55:28] process of like these people aren't even gonna get to realize right right coming back to their

[00:55:33] homeland yeah and you're talking you're counting on a whole other generation when you've tried to count

[00:55:37] on other generations in the past and this never worked out for you ever so I don't understand why

[00:55:42] this time this is supposed to be that one time that it's gonna work right why is this time special

[00:55:47] it's not it's not I'm with you and you have said to me oh Lord God buy the field for money and take

[00:55:55] witnesses if the city has been given into the hand of the Chaldeans then the word of the Lord came

[00:56:02] to Jeremiah the word came to Jeremiah saying behold I am the Lord the God of all flashes there

[00:56:09] anything too hard for me yeah there is therefore thus says the Lord behold I will give this city

[00:56:18] into the hands of the Chaldeans into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon and he shall take it

[00:56:24] boom and the Chaldeans who fight against this city shall come and set fire to the city oh damn it

[00:56:31] that's not good with the houses on whose roofs they have offered incense to ball all and poured out

[00:56:37] drink offerings to other gods to provoke capital M me to anger do you suppose that the houses that

[00:56:44] didn't do those things are gonna not get burned I bet not that's not how fire works you mean

[00:56:50] you bet they are gonna get burned yeah sorry I wasn't following your question yeah no they're all

[00:56:54] going to get burned right believers and non-believers alike yeah because God is a capricious little son

[00:57:00] of a bitch right yeah because the children of Israel and the children of Judah have done only

[00:57:06] evil before me from their youth from the for the children of Israel have provoked me only to anger

[00:57:14] with the work of their hands says the Lord from from children yeah because kids right but like you

[00:57:21] know he said that this is in the remember when he had the dream last time right uh-huh he's gonna

[00:57:25] write on our hearts that he's like we're gonna know God so like the idea is that these people are

[00:57:31] doing these things apparently with full knowledge that God is the one true God right sure I just can't

[00:57:39] like okay I can't put myself in those shoes if I had God's word written on my heart and I knew

[00:57:46] the God was the one true God and I was not only real but was the only one that counted there is

[00:57:53] nothing you could talk you couldn't talk me into not believing in him you couldn't talk me into

[00:57:59] not following his way because I already know I know there's a God right that doesn't that

[00:58:09] that doesn't happen that didn't happen that never happened with any of his people ever right and he's

[00:58:16] had problems with them from day one yeah like this is an ongoing issue right throughout the entire

[00:58:22] old testament that they not only don't really believe in him the way he wants um they also don't

[00:58:29] even fear him right like they're like maybe a real maybe you're not the whatever the prophets like

[00:58:36] to pretend like people fear them yeah but they don't act like they fear them no if they feared them

[00:58:40] they wouldn't be doing what they're doing right and they ask questions as to why this is happening

[00:58:44] right up until they're getting sacked in their fucking city yeah they don't know why this is

[00:58:48] happening they don't have any fucking inkling why it's happening right exactly I agree

[00:58:53] and they certainly don't think a God is responsible for it no or at least not that God no they're blaming

[00:58:58] Jeremiah right yeah which makes a lot of fucking sense politics and war and just fucking life in ancient

[00:59:05] times you know sometimes the sky falls sure yeah for this city has been to me a provocation of my anger

[00:59:14] and my fury from the day that they built it even to this day so I will remove it from before my

[00:59:21] mother fucking face mm-hmm he's gonna remove it from his face yeah face because of all the evil

[00:59:31] of the children of Israel and the children of Judah which they have done to provoke me to anger

[00:59:37] they their kings their princes their priests their prophets the man of Judah and the inhabitants

[00:59:43] of Jerusalem and they have turned to me the back and not the face though I taught them rising up

[00:59:50] early in teaching them yet they have not listened to receive instruction he turned his back on

[00:59:56] Moses right what's wrong with that yeah like he turns his back on humanity what they're just

[01:00:00] following your example right yeah and I'm sorry you're saying that you were talking to them but

[01:00:05] they didn't listen right I guarantee you if a God was talking I would have fucking listen yeah yeah

[01:00:11] there's no way that you were talking Jeremiah was talking yeah your prophets were talking right

[01:00:17] which humans they were talking yeah yeah exactly and other humans were saying other things

[01:00:22] because there is no distinction between you and these other fucking humans other than they say

[01:00:27] they're all correct yeah and guess what all of them all say they're correct and you know what

[01:00:33] depending on how circumstances played out in history all of them could have been correct right at

[01:00:38] any given instant because of how things played out in history exactly yeah but they set their

[01:00:44] abominations in the house which is called by my name to defile it and they built the high places

[01:00:52] of ball which are in the valley of the son of Inam to cause their sons and their daughters to pass

[01:00:58] through the fire to Molec you know that guy that we're not ever supposed to remember yeah the one

[01:01:02] we're never supposed to say again yeah yeah right which I did not command them nor did it come into

[01:01:08] my mind that they should do this abomination to cause Judah to sin like it didn't even occur to God

[01:01:15] that it could be a possibility for these people to praise Molec and except that's the whole reason

[01:01:22] this was at the northern tribes fell was at the northern tribes yeah it was northern tribes

[01:01:28] fell was according to the Bible according to the prophets was that they were following the wrong

[01:01:33] version of God the same same things that are happening to these people right happened to them earlier

[01:01:38] yeah right and there was that whole distinction between what the the northern tribes worship versus

[01:01:44] the southern tribes worship because they're in I don't remember what book it was but there was talk

[01:01:50] of the giant golden calf yeah that was a monument almost or whatever it was in their their realm

[01:01:58] and that was actually a representation of what they believed Yahweh to be yes so like Yahweh

[01:02:04] represented a lot of these pagan rights that yeah are being practiced to some of these people because

[01:02:09] there wasn't really a clear idea as to who Yahweh was because Yahweh hasn't actually

[01:02:15] presented himself to anybody other than his select prophets that we hear about in the

[01:02:21] fucking Bible a few times the people in those times didn't have any clue as to what this

[01:02:28] version of Yahweh was because other people were telling them it was something else right and so I

[01:02:33] can't fault them for for choosing the God that they were presented with because indoctrination will

[01:02:39] win out every fucking time if you're told this is your God that's who you're gonna worship right

[01:02:44] you are in a group of people who are all doing the same thing you're gonna follow suit because

[01:02:48] it's just easier to fall in line one it doesn't occur to you that you have even a choice oh much

[01:02:55] of the time yes that is correct and and you don't even have information that you can gather for

[01:03:01] yourself in those times right it's not like you could see alternate perspectives on the inner webs

[01:03:08] right you know right yeah so yeah the whole thing is stupid now therefore thus says the Lord the

[01:03:15] God of Israel concerning this city of which you say is shall be delivered into the hand of the

[01:03:20] king of Babylon by the sword by the famine and by the pestilence behold by the power of grace call

[01:03:28] yeah yeah behold I have the power just kidding I will gather them out of all countries where I

[01:03:36] have driven them in my anger in my fury and in great wrath I was real pissed so I flicked them left

[01:03:44] him right yeah and then when I calm the fuck down I decided I would bring them back right right

[01:03:49] I will bring them back to this place and I will cause them to dwell safely you just gotta give me a

[01:03:55] few centuries or whatever right he'll get over it yeah then shall my wait then shall be okay one

[01:04:01] more time sorry God is not always clear okay they shall be my people and I will be their God

[01:04:12] then I will give them one heart and one way that they may fear me forever thank God I mean what

[01:04:21] will we do without fearing Yahweh right right I mean where would we be in this world if we didn't

[01:04:27] fear him completely I don't know I don't think we would have ever got to space but wasn't for that

[01:04:32] massive sphere of Yahweh or like I don't think we would have ever done anything really we just

[01:04:38] we would be stagnant in life if we didn't fear Yahweh all the time I know every time I'm a feared

[01:04:44] is when I'm able to put gas in my car right yeah that that goes hand in hand I certainly wouldn't

[01:04:50] be able to do anything in my life without fearing I came I was just gonna say like when we post

[01:04:57] this are we a feared have got even a little way not but they may fear me forever for the good of

[01:05:03] them and their children after them that didn't last long and I will make an everlasting covenant

[01:05:10] with them he's gonna cut some balls here we go that I will not turn away from them doing good but

[01:05:18] I will put my fear in their hearts so that they will not depart from me I'm I'm going to make you

[01:05:24] scared so scared that you can't leave me again I don't think this is a good way to lead no like no

[01:05:32] it's not good parenting it's not good leadership skills it's really piss poor management of your

[01:05:38] people yeah dude needs to read some like business manuals yeah yeah like where's my who moved my

[01:05:45] cheese and what colors my parachute and yeah all that shit all them seven steps for highly effective

[01:05:50] gods yeah exactly yeah yes I will rejoice over them to do them good and I will assuredly plant

[01:05:59] them in this land with all my heart with all my soul God has a heart and a soul apparently I didn't

[01:06:05] know I didn't either for those says the like we do know he has bowels you right right and then

[01:06:11] knows remember he's to smells he like the real he really like smelling stuff and he has back sides

[01:06:15] yeah yeah he does dad asked though I mean he made us in his image right so I mean I would assume

[01:06:19] he's got all the bits he's got all the bits yeah could you imagine cupping godballs I'm I mean

[01:06:26] I can't even imagine pod so let it no for the says the Lord just as I have brought all this great

[01:06:33] calamity on this people so I will bring on them all the good that I have promised them first I'm going

[01:06:39] to stab them but then I'm gonna throw flowers at them and butterflies and glitter and maybe they

[01:06:46] won't notice all the blood but I hope you do notice the blood so that they're scared of me while

[01:06:51] they're frolicking in the sand at the beach I mean what the fuck message is this right not a good one

[01:06:56] no no and fields will be brought in this land of which you say it is desolate without man or beast

[01:07:03] it's been given into the hands of the chowdians the fucking chowdians those astronomers yeah god damn

[01:07:11] those starwatching assholes yeah all right men will buy fields for money sign deeds and seal them

[01:07:19] and take witnesses in the land of Benjamin in the places around Jerusalem in the cities of Judah

[01:07:26] in the cities of the mountains in the cities of the lowland and in the cities of the south

[01:07:33] for I will cause their captives to return says the Lord the end okay boom yeah I guess I whatever I know

[01:07:45] it's so ridiculous it's annoying yeah it's just it's so annoying well we've heard the same

[01:07:52] prophecy over and over and over again throughout this book right yeah and it's just not like I don't

[01:07:58] know how much of it is written in Jeremiah's time how much was added after the fact I don't really

[01:08:03] understand like even if even if this is all written by Jeremiah in his time as they're being captured

[01:08:10] by by Babylon right in the chowdians right yeah it's it would be it wouldn't be a far cry to say

[01:08:20] that their faith in their god would indicate that God's gonna bring them back together right

[01:08:26] right so to write that down even if you're doing this before it happens uh-huh doesn't seem like

[01:08:32] that great of a prophecy to me it's just this need to come back to what you had right like it's not

[01:08:40] it has nothing to do with this knowledge of actually how it's going to transpire right but more about

[01:08:47] we this is our land we need it back we're obviously God's gonna give this back to us because

[01:08:52] our God is great and our God is good right yeah that's how they feel about it sure I don't think it has

[01:08:57] anything to do with an actual prophecy no no it's just it's a hope and a prayer honestly yeah and

[01:09:05] like and we talked about this and we've talked about this before but like you know it's the if

[01:09:12] it's correct it's obviously that's what that's what makes it last right so like this person that

[01:09:17] wrote these things that maybe came true I guess if we're to believe that this was all written pre

[01:09:24] right then coming back yeah but even if that's the case the fact that they wrote it and it did come

[01:09:30] true is what made it stick right right other people might have wrote similar things but it wasn't

[01:09:35] exactly the same or exactly true so those things didn't stick right so this one just happened

[01:09:40] to be mostly correct oh my god it did happen on a Monday let's tape this one to the wall guys right

[01:09:47] right yeah so I don't know I I don't take a lot of stock in this because there's a lot of why

[01:09:54] to be perfectly honest I don't take any stock in the God aspects of it but I don't the prophecy

[01:09:59] aspect of it though I don't take a lot of stock in because it's just it's too easy to have manipulated

[01:10:05] after the fact and it's also too easy to maybe just foresee how things tend to go in those times you

[01:10:12] know like people come in and conquer they get tired and then you get to come back after a while

[01:10:18] because they can't hold down these large swaths of land right it it's probably similar things have

[01:10:23] happened in the past I know they have because we've read about them in the Bible right you know so

[01:10:27] I it doesn't really it's like me and you it's like me and you sitting here saying a prophecy that

[01:10:34] you guys I hate to tell you this really bad news but Trump's probably gonna win the presidency I

[01:10:39] hate to tell you it but I'm just but I mean yeah if you if you listen to this and then come back

[01:10:45] you know whatever in November and and he did win then you know we just we were correct what I did

[01:10:51] a prophecy I didn't totally look around Ohio and see that it's all red now I didn't look at the

[01:10:59] country and be like oh turnout is gonna be really bad and a lot of it so there's a general apathy

[01:11:04] towards Biden and what have you yeah apathy toward Biden and anger over what's happening to the

[01:11:10] Palestinians right right and the youth is not happy with that right that you said just I have to

[01:11:16] say that out front state it right here get your ass out there and vote please get out there and vote

[01:11:20] I would love to be wrong let me not be giving a prophecy right right like I ain't trying to be

[01:11:25] right y'all I do not want Trump again but be that as it may I do foresee that that is what is gonna

[01:11:33] happen definite possibility well obviously it's a possibility right I think I'm not I don't even

[01:11:40] want to come close to prophesizing that I'm pretty sure that's what's gonna happen let's let's skip

[01:11:44] the prophesizing I like to on the political front I like to prepare for the worst but hope for the

[01:11:50] best okay all right so I'm assuming he's gonna win I would love to be pleasantly surprised and

[01:11:58] and be completely mistaken yeah yeah but I would love you to be pleasantly surprised and

[01:12:03] completely mistaken as well we'll see in November if I gave a prophecy or not all right I didn't

[01:12:08] I totally didn't just read the fucking political wins right right yeah all right well that was

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[01:13:06] husband wife do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today

[01:13:11] well yesterday we read Jeremiah chapter 32 we did and in that chapter I recall that

[01:13:19] Jeremiah was God told him that he was gonna buy it I think it was a dream maybe they was

[01:13:26] going to buy in a piece of land from his somebody some family member no no no no no no no I

[01:13:33] think it was like his uncle or some shit sure but then it actually happened and then it actually

[01:13:37] happened so that obviously proves that all the prophecies are correct because he bought the land yeah

[01:13:42] you know and then he had a dream about it so that that makes everything correct and true

[01:13:48] is that how that is that how that works he prophesied a prophecy there you go did I do that right

[01:13:53] I hope so because we just got done talking about this honestly I can't remember because

[01:14:00] I just don't know see you should be in our discord group Tuesdays at 10

[01:14:04] and then you could correct me right because I will get it wrong right yeah yeah um and then I

[01:14:11] think God was promising that they'd all come back after they got destroyed and wonderful stuff

[01:14:16] was gonna in two right sure eventually eventually after after all the terrible things right and he's

[01:14:22] right and he's right and how it goes there's terrible things and then and then good things right but

[01:14:25] he's writing this from jail and um Baruch is writing it too and maybe yeah and also Baruch took the

[01:14:36] deed up from the sale of the land and put it in an earthen pot I mean they were supposed to at least

[01:14:41] they said they were going to yeah yeah so that they could prove later that they cared enough

[01:14:45] to write it down maybe yeah yeah so anyway that was Jeremiah chapter 32 sure it's fuck was

[01:14:51] which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 33 all right let's do this okay don't

[01:15:07] all right we are doing Jeremiah chapter 33 okay are you ready for this I'm ready for it

[01:15:13] more over more over the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah a second time not a second time

[01:15:21] a second time is this only the second time well the first time it was he's in jail and he's like

[01:15:26] buy some land what I thought God's been talking through him this whole time we've been reading this book

[01:15:30] but in jail this is the second oh so this is the second time in jail right okay it didn't clarify

[01:15:35] that but I'm gonna guess that's what they mean okay because otherwise we can't trust oh I didn't

[01:15:40] finish the sentence I'm sorry in jail while he was still shut up in the court of the prison

[01:15:45] yep yeah that's the rest of the sentence okay see but I guessed correctly you did you did I'm awesome

[01:15:51] okay saying thus says the Lord who made it made it the Lord who formed it to establish it it

[01:16:01] the Lord is his name that was parentheses voice okay um yeah I have notes about that there's a

[01:16:07] question about like the fuck is it I mean the only one I am aware of is a clown that lives in the gutter

[01:16:12] that would be Pennywise right yeah has a name um this it is not a clown and it's not an alien it could

[01:16:23] be Jerusalem more likely it is the entire planet but not universe not the universe just the planet oh

[01:16:32] they didn't know about the universe we've renamed earth to it it okay yeah I think we should just

[01:16:38] from now forward call earth it when I'm like fuck it yeah then you guys know that I'm saying

[01:16:44] fuck earth what a beautiful it it is oh what a beautiful yeah yeah yeah I love you all the way

[01:16:54] from the moon to it yeah yeah and back again and back right okay so anyway God's talking okay after

[01:17:01] he formed it yeah he says call to me and I will answer you and show you great and mighty things

[01:17:09] which you do not know okay I mean for me I'm kind of dumb I think so like everything I don't know

[01:17:18] is great and mighty I feel like the great and mighty things he's gonna show us or that we have

[01:17:22] to fear him and love him um those are the things that we are they're just gonna show us that we don't

[01:17:28] know those things are not great and mighty not in my opinion but I feel like that's what he's talking

[01:17:32] about because that's always what he's talking about you have to fear me you have to love me you have

[01:17:36] to you know bow to me and cater to me and make and kill things for me and do shit for me um when

[01:17:42] he said call to me and I will answer you it made me think of the song by little not little

[01:17:48] noz ex um call me by my name Montero okay that's the one where he slides down the pole

[01:17:57] yeah yeah and lap dances on the devil right I fucking love that song and I love that video yeah

[01:18:03] but my favorite one by little noz ex is um the one where he's a zombie um I can't remember what

[01:18:10] it's called it so good I'll try to remember to send it to you in the show notes it's it's so

[01:18:15] fucking good all right yeah anyway yeah call me by my name right okay uh call to me and I will

[01:18:21] answer you and show you great mighty things which you do not know for thus says the lord the god

[01:18:27] of Israel concerning the houses of this city and the houses of the kings of Judah which have been pulled

[01:18:34] down to fortify against the siege mounds and the sword okay so that was all lead up to here's

[01:18:41] what I'm about to fucking say sure okay they come to fight with the chaldeans but only to fill

[01:18:48] their places with the dead bodies of men whom I will slay in my anger at my fury all for those

[01:18:56] whose wickedness I have hidden my face from this city wait who's he slaying he's slaying the people

[01:19:02] fighting the Israelites or the people that are fighting against the child oh no he's um

[01:19:12] the people are coming to fight the chaldeans but only to um to get killed to get killed okay yeah all right

[01:19:20] yeah so he's still he's using the chaldeans as a as a tool who's going to kill all these

[01:19:26] wayward Israelites that are not following gods laws the drugs that were left behind that didn't get

[01:19:32] okay all right so it's still being an asshole to his people yes yes yes okay be whole that will

[01:19:38] bring it health and healing I will heal them and reveal to them the abundance of peace and truth

[01:19:44] so they're wait I thought they were they thought that we're gonna die they are maybe he's gonna

[01:19:49] heal death no the ones that are left over there oh the ones that didn't quite die

[01:19:55] she's gonna heal them the ones that are over in Babylon oh okay yeah he's like y'all can come back now

[01:20:01] got it I know it's all bloody here now but you'd be okay but then that's like 70 years from now

[01:20:06] yeah don't worry about it yeah and I will cause the captives of Judah and the captives of Israel to

[01:20:12] return see yeah and we'll rebuild those places as at first I will cleanse them from all their

[01:20:20] iniquity by which they have sinned against me and I will pardon all their iniquities by which

[01:20:26] they have sinned and by which they have transgressed against me then it shall be to me a name of joy

[01:20:36] a praise and an honor before all nations of the earth who shall hear all the good that I do to them

[01:20:44] they shall fear and tremble for all the goodness and all the prosperity that I provide for it

[01:20:50] again I so I harp on this a lot but like I feel like he doesn't really

[01:20:58] care to change people's hearts as they stand right and you have to follow this certain model or

[01:21:04] else he's going to turn his back on you smite you put you into slavery turn his back on you for

[01:21:10] generations not just like you specifically but you and your kids yeah and and then maybe if you

[01:21:17] guys are able to change your ways like you know hundreds of years from now he might love you until

[01:21:22] you decide to go against him again right it just doesn't it just doesn't feel like a very healthy

[01:21:27] relationship that's all it's always the fear me or die but you totally have free will to choose

[01:21:34] which is where you want yeah except for that except for that one way you know what this God

[01:21:41] hypothetically is going to murder you or send you away or cause you all kinds of problems and famine

[01:21:48] and and whatever else so there's not really a choice here no and moreover

[01:21:55] it's just it's not a way like there's no relationship growth here it's his way or the highway

[01:22:01] yeah you know you don't have a good choice here there is no good choice and I don't think the people

[01:22:06] you know and the other thing is that I don't think these people actually know what their choice

[01:22:10] up is right so I still have questions no matter how much he says he wrote on their heart I don't believe

[01:22:15] that based on what I'm hearing from what these people do he has a written it down on their heart

[01:22:19] yet but he's supposed to before they come back yeah that's later yeah we're not there yet all right

[01:22:23] that's in the next book okay lost says the Lord again there shall be heard in this place

[01:22:31] of which you say it is desolate without man and without beast in the cities of Judah in the streets

[01:22:38] of Jerusalem that are desolate without man and without inhabitant and without beast the voice of joy

[01:22:45] and the voice of gladness the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride the voice of those who

[01:22:51] will say I love these quotes within quotes within quotes praise the Lord of hosts for the Lord is good

[01:22:58] for his mercy and yours forever except his mercy doesn't endure forever no his mercy and

[01:23:04] yours only before he gets in a pissy mood right and only if you're following things exactly to the

[01:23:10] letter of the law that he wants you to follow mercy is not only for when you behave mercy is

[01:23:15] supposed to extend to you even when you have fucked up right otherwise it's not mercy it's just being

[01:23:23] you know an easy shallow fair with her fan I think they call that right right yeah like you only

[01:23:30] like your team when it's winning yeah yeah that's like that we even recognize now in today's

[01:23:35] society that rehabilitation is a better method than punishment right yeah rehabilitation is

[01:23:42] much more successful I mean only the progressives do well okay the conservatives don't but

[01:23:48] yeah I'm just saying that there were there was none of these ideas which have been in my opinion proven

[01:23:54] to be accurate yes we're not even attempted by this quote unquote God right like these weren't

[01:23:59] things that even occurred to happen back then right and that that is part of what I can't wrap

[01:24:05] my head around with the idea of God and this almighty being that's supposed to know everything can't

[01:24:11] even figure out how to people right you know like he just came and figured out did you not know

[01:24:16] about the social sciences right you would think he would know way more than we would like

[01:24:22] hypothetically he should know way more than we do yeah and like his laws of living and life should

[01:24:28] reflect this knowledge that is way more than we currently knew back then right because he knew all

[01:24:35] the things that were best right and then there will be people who say well that's what Jesus did

[01:24:40] and I'm like okay but we're not there yet and why did God have to be all Jesus see before he could

[01:24:47] be a good God right it then even if you do you know take this and still believe in God right yeah

[01:24:55] I think you have to at some level admit that this God is not the most powerful most almighty thing

[01:25:03] on the planet because he has flaws yeah like if we are to like if we want to pretend like God

[01:25:11] exists right sure if I wanted to even wrap my head around that idea even a little bit I would have

[01:25:18] to first accept the fact that that God that I am choosing to believe in has flaws yes it is a

[01:25:27] flawed entity which automatically to me disqualifies it from being right that it opens up a whole other

[01:25:35] set of problems right because the question then is what does it mean to be a God if a God has flaws

[01:25:41] right that's not a God that's merely an alien that's more powerful than I am you know what I mean

[01:25:48] like yeah you know two people I would be considered a God and we all know I'm fucking flawed

[01:25:57] right yeah so I ain't trying to walk around saying I'm God right that's all I'm saying no yeah it just

[01:26:04] the things that occur to me that's all yeah shower thoughts right that porch philosophy yes

[01:26:10] and of those who will bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord

[01:26:15] for I will cause the captives of the land to return as at first says the Lord

[01:26:22] less says the Lord of hosts in this place which is desolate without man and without beast

[01:26:28] and in all its cities there shall again be a dwelling place of shepherds causing their flocks to lie down

[01:26:36] all is cute yeah in the cities of the mountains in the cities of the lowland in the cities of

[01:26:43] the south in the land of Benjamin in the places around Jerusalem and in the cities of Judah the flock

[01:26:50] shall again pass under the hands of him who counts them says the Lord wait God's doing a count

[01:26:58] and think we were allowed to count thing remember how we don't allow to count things sometimes

[01:27:01] that other time there's not just people we can count flocks and sheep and stuff it just depends

[01:27:05] sometimes they do it's just make sure we gotta be clear I might get smoked if I don't if I count

[01:27:10] the wrong fucking thing you know dude if we were gonna get smoked we'd already be smoked it's true

[01:27:16] behold the days are coming says the Lord that I will perform that good thing which I have promised

[01:27:23] to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah I really find it interesting that he still

[01:27:28] refers to them separately yeah there's there's some Judah over here and there's some Israel over there

[01:27:35] it's just in case they want to expand their borders you know like in case they ever get beyond

[01:27:39] the Jerusalem thing I just find it we reserve the right to bring back in those other tribes and

[01:27:44] that of the land over there because you know I just find it interesting that there's still

[01:27:49] mentioned separately instead of like all one it is it is interesting yeah and I don't quite understand

[01:27:56] that distinction exactly but it still speaks to the geography of the tribes right as opposed to

[01:28:03] the people as a whole right and obviously the prominence of the of Judah is much greater than

[01:28:10] any of the other tribes that are out there which is so weird to me like when I was first reading

[01:28:16] these with you like when we were early days right I kept getting so confused because I thought

[01:28:21] Israel was where it's at well and they treat it early on there was some distinction as to

[01:28:28] some more more powerful than other tribes right but as far as being God's people they were all treated

[01:28:34] equally early on yeah and then it just kind of like we just kind of lost like you know they call

[01:28:39] them the last tribes right yeah we just started losing them the ten like oh shit yeah we don't hear

[01:28:44] about them anymore yeah they just wandered off yeah into the sunset it was really weird it's just like

[01:28:50] when we talk about the Jewish people today I mean I fully admit to my ignorance that I am not at all

[01:29:00] versed in anything relating to Judaism or the lands and the people okay other than what I've

[01:29:11] learned thus far right but before we started reading this I never knew about a Judah sure I only

[01:29:19] knew about Israel Israel is the thing yeah that's what I knew right and it just really surprises me

[01:29:27] reading this that oh no actually Israel's gone y'all like it's Judah Judah's Judah's the

[01:29:34] lasting tribe maybe but I think the reason that they refer to it as Israel now is because they want

[01:29:39] to be restored Israel right right that's the idea that they want to push forward in the world is

[01:29:46] that it is a restored Israel yes and I get that but that is not made clear to dumb dums like me

[01:29:55] who like should I don't I just I was very confused sure I didn't understand right I thought Judah

[01:30:05] or no I didn't know anything about Judah right I thought that Israel was the one I didn't know

[01:30:11] that Israel you know it was a conglomeration of tribes that disappeared right you know I didn't

[01:30:18] understand that sure how could I possibly have thought that I mean it requires learning about

[01:30:23] the culture required learning about their their their religion it requires learning more about them

[01:30:27] so yeah which is which is partly what we're doing yes I just I like I wonder how many other people

[01:30:33] like me had no idea that oh Israel is not actually I mean I don't know how true this is but I

[01:30:41] apparently I heard one time that there's like one in ten people in the United States that can't

[01:30:44] even point out the United States on a fucking map so I mean I don't have a lot of faith and how much

[01:30:48] people are gonna know about anything like that's true that's true do you remember that one Jimmy

[01:30:53] Kimmelbit where they were asking people to identify the country and it was just the United States upside

[01:31:00] down and they like had no idea what it was that that was killing me yeah because I was like that's

[01:31:08] just the United States upside down right I was just like turning my head sideways it actually made

[01:31:14] me feel kind of smartish for a minute sure I mean because nobody else was well I mean to be fair

[01:31:19] they pick on people oh sure that can I show the ones that get it like that's yeah like they probably

[01:31:23] ask like 500 people and they show like the five that are yeah no I get that in those days and at

[01:31:30] that time I will cause to grow up to David a branch of righteousness okay okay I grow up to David

[01:31:41] like yeah not transcends down as descendants through David right well he's I think the symbolism

[01:31:49] though is that he's planting the righteousness yes it's going to you know grow up from the land

[01:31:54] that he's replanting them in right no I get that but also that so what he's saying is remember that

[01:32:01] one time when I said that um the branch would go through David I was just kidding because um actually

[01:32:09] I just like took away that possibility accidentally so now what I'm going to say is that um I'm

[01:32:16] gonna plant some people and they're just gonna kind of like um somehow magically be David

[01:32:24] be of David without like genealogy wise well I'm sure they could find a second cousin right

[01:32:32] whatever something that they can be like there we're gonna stay there that's the one yeah but

[01:32:37] you see what I'm saying though he's like JK right like see God does change his mind and mess up

[01:32:43] and rewrite as long as we can pretend it's all okay yeah you know we just have to be able to

[01:32:48] it's just like any other conspiracy theory or anything else you just have to have some basis in fact

[01:32:54] and then over the rest of it you can do right yeah exactly either overlook or bend your mind

[01:32:58] in pretzels whichever is easy for you I don't have a pretzel head I have a potato head

[01:33:04] haha he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the earth this the the other branch the righteous

[01:33:12] David growth thing yeah the zombie David okay yeah um who I have heard um Jesus referred to as um one

[01:33:22] of his nicknames is mr. righteousness oh really I've never heard that not with the mister I I added

[01:33:28] that for fun like I'm kind of like yeah one of his alternate names is righteousness really yeah and so

[01:33:34] then they're like see see see see see and then they pointed this in their like prophecy again again

[01:33:40] the book was written after all this shit they could make it prophecy as much as they want to why did

[01:33:45] they call him righteousness this was already written down right yeah you know like yeah yes I'm sure

[01:33:54] they did call him that didn't they right okay anyway in those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem

[01:34:01] will dwell safely and this is the name by which she will be called are you ready uh is it another

[01:34:07] new name no it's the same name ready ready yeah the Lord our righteousness all caps that's what

[01:34:13] Israel is gonna be called yeah that's what no the Jerusalem Jerusalem was gonna be called the Lord

[01:34:19] our righteousness yeah that is a new name why would they call Jerusalem the Lord is his God now the

[01:34:26] city he planned it so much well yeah that he just kind of grew into the city yeah his he planted

[01:34:32] himself yes now you're getting it yeah and then his righteousness grew out of the ground through David

[01:34:38] which is then Jesus right yeah is that how that works I think so okay I mean we're not there yet

[01:34:43] so I could tell you sure how crop rotation works with uh with gods but I mean I'm assuming

[01:34:48] you have to just water it just right and then you get a god that goes into a Messiah that then

[01:34:53] saves the world and everything's cool is that about it is that about the time that the Greeks had

[01:34:59] aqueducts I don't know because I I remember in sixth grade learning about um Greekarchy no architecture

[01:35:09] and like you know buildings and whatnot sure and um I remember that's where I learned the word

[01:35:15] aqueduct mm-hmm and um that that was like an amazing feat right and I don't know why that stuck

[01:35:23] with me also the word um not zeitgeist what's the other one zeit something okay I'll get back to you

[01:35:32] but it's like a pyramid okay but it starts with a zigrat zigrat yeah yeah we talked about that

[01:35:38] before yeah not zeitgeist I think one of the most amazing things to me actually about words that

[01:35:43] start with z no not at all okay um but the idea that so like we're very heavily enveloped in the

[01:35:50] whole biblical world right now right sure with what we're learning and everything right now right

[01:35:55] it's interesting to like I think that I think that's easy for someone who is religious or or

[01:36:00] believes in god to get very wrapped up in this one little place but to step out like what really

[01:36:06] intrigues me about reading the Bible is to sometimes step outside of that biblical circle and say

[01:36:13] oh these other things were going on yeah like over here what was happening at Greece and Rome and

[01:36:18] Asia or Italy you know all those other places right yeah like what were the other things happening

[01:36:23] in the world yeah that we're happening at the same time it's it's really neat to me to kind of

[01:36:28] understand that in context yeah so I love I love to it just it makes the world seem bigger and

[01:36:36] and smaller at the same time like this seem smaller right because you don't have because this idea is

[01:36:42] one idea of many in the world that existed at that one time yeah that's what I meant by bigger

[01:36:47] and smaller at the same time because it's like there's so much happening the world is huge but also

[01:36:52] like it's all on one little thing right right the world's so small it's cute but it's yeah anyway

[01:37:00] anyway I had to say that for thus says the Lord thus ready yep David shall never lack a man to sit on

[01:37:07] the throne of the house of Israel nor shall the priests the Levites lack a man to offer burnt

[01:37:14] offerings before me to Kindle grain offerings and to sacrifice continually I see he's still about

[01:37:21] all that so we're still yeah we're still sacrificing yeah we're still paganish yeah right

[01:37:27] and the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah saying bus says the Lord I like how he's like

[01:37:34] the Lord says this and then he's like I'm the Lord and I see this right wait okay call me your

[01:37:40] tits if you can break my covenant with the day am I covenant with the night so that there will not be

[01:37:48] day and night in their season then my covenant may also be broken with David my servant

[01:37:56] so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne and with the Levites the priests my ministers

[01:38:03] so so he's saying there's no way that this can be broken because you can't stop the day and the night

[01:38:11] so I promise you well I don't know have you heard all the conspiracy theories about the the solar

[01:38:18] eclipse that's happening on the eat the month of April yeah I have heard so like that's like

[01:38:22] that's like the day stopping right in the middle of the day that's what I hear I mean it's not I've

[01:38:27] heard I've heard from very unreputable sources like this is like the end is not a type thing you know

[01:38:36] like this is the first eclipse since way back there's all kinds of like let me tell you something

[01:38:42] spoil or alert it's not no we just had on the clips like a few years ago but this is a big one

[01:38:48] what okay whatever yeah and it makes some sort of like ex across America from

[01:38:54] the time I'm except it doesn't whatever I don't I don't really care like it's just it's they they've

[01:38:59] created this whole like conspiracy nutcase scenario where this means the end of the world and I'm like

[01:39:04] what in the hell like where do these people how do they who sits around and just like looks at

[01:39:11] these things and comes up with all these crazy scenarios that just can't be true right like you

[01:39:20] who's doing it they have to know that they're doing this as a clickbait thing like they have to know

[01:39:25] that this is just sensationalism based on on you know incorrect information see what I like to do

[01:39:34] is scroll through the comments on those things not to read the hate comments and not to read the

[01:39:40] framers but to read the people that are like this isn't true because and then they explain why

[01:39:47] it isn't true yeah and then that's where I start with my research because then I go look up the

[01:39:53] arguments and I'm like that argument was correct right and that's fun yeah like I don't go do I don't

[01:40:00] start at my own research I start with what are the smart people in the comments saying and

[01:40:08] that saves me from just like random searching sure you know yeah and then I go look that

[01:40:13] shut up and I'm like those commenters were correct this is bullshit which I knew but here's why

[01:40:19] yeah that's fun that's a lot of fun as the host of heaven cannot be numbered nor the sand of the sea

[01:40:28] measured hmm that's fun that's a throwback yeah that's a b side right so will I multiply the

[01:40:35] descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister to me well there you go but I bring

[01:40:41] him back the sands of the beach and all that but I heard that Jesus was not only an only child

[01:40:47] but also never fought that's what I heard yeah so what you mean what you I don't I don't know because

[01:40:55] then I also heard like in those Dan Brown novels that he totally had siblings and dude totally

[01:41:02] fucked yeah and then in the movie dogma of course he had children because you know she was a descendant

[01:41:08] we certainly don't seem to maybe and maybe I'm wrong because I'm not in the Jewish community

[01:41:13] but it doesn't feel like the line of David is really a thing that we talk about or even Levites

[01:41:18] anymore yeah and and again I'm not in that community so I don't know that to be 100% certain

[01:41:23] we don't hear about it outside I don't I certainly yeah I don't from from the outside perspective

[01:41:28] I certainly don't have any idea that that is something that is still discussed as a ongoing thing

[01:41:34] right so I would be curious about that if it is still something that is

[01:41:40] talked about or cared about in any way yeah people that are familiar with contemporary

[01:41:48] Jewish law and lore and happenings is I feel like this would make for a good like side you know

[01:41:55] episode like yeah we could talk about like whatever happened to them Levites well and like yeah

[01:42:01] that they still discuss that stuff and today's you know in the current Jewish community right

[01:42:06] like that's still something that is happening so I would be curious about that I would as well

[01:42:10] yeah let's learn about Levites and David and David people

[01:42:15] Davidians yeah right yeah branched Davidians but no that's something entirely different

[01:42:24] oh wife moreover the word of the lord came to Jeremiah saying have you considered

[01:42:32] what these people have spoken saying the two families which the lord has chosen he has also cast

[01:42:38] them off thus they have despised my people as if they should no more be a nation before them

[01:42:46] thus says the lord if my covenant is not with day and night and if I am not appointed the ordinances

[01:42:53] of heaven and earth then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David my servant so that

[01:42:59] I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham Isaac and

[01:43:06] Jake's Jacob I'm gonna say Jason but no he's making a claw he's making a caveat here he's like if

[01:43:13] you guys fuck up I reserve the right to cancel this whole thing but I thought he's saying before

[01:43:20] there's no way it can be canceled because unless you can stop day or night or something like that

[01:43:26] yeah which which I guess probably he's saying that that can't be done so okay yeah all right fair enough

[01:43:33] yeah for I will cause their captives to return and we'll have mercy on them the end okay well yeah

[01:43:41] um I mean I don't really they're coming back he's gonna restore them and David there's

[01:43:50] going to be branches growing through David's line and I'll kind of tell you like I'm over Jeremiah

[01:43:56] I know we said this about every other kind of way it happens in every book that we're in

[01:44:00] we're like oh why does this kind of end soon like this guy he's too much and he's getting like the

[01:44:06] books are getting closer and closer to Jesus and so they're so Jesusy they are a bit yeah and I

[01:44:12] don't it makes me very antsy and uncomfortable but I have to say the reading that you you have to try

[01:44:19] to go to like another level to get the Jesus bit out of it right like I I from this perspective

[01:44:25] of of the world know that that's what you know the people that wrote the New Testament we're trying

[01:44:31] to get at yeah but I also know that they wrote that with the idea that this was already in the old

[01:44:35] testament so like right it doesn't like you have to interpret in such a way that it actually

[01:44:41] I'm trying to read it just with the eyes of the people as they wrote it right and it's really hard

[01:44:48] because you know where it's going sure because we've been told unless you're Jewish then it's not

[01:44:54] going to fucking anywhere right but I'm neither Jewish nor uninformed of the Jesus story right you know

[01:45:01] and so it's hard to take those things out of my head and say okay just pretend like this is the

[01:45:07] only thing that you know but also from that perspective every time you have tried every time we

[01:45:13] have pointed out an instance where this is this is referring to Jesus possibly based on New

[01:45:18] Testament what they say yeah I can also read it and say that makes no fucking like every single time

[01:45:24] yeah I can read that section and say I don't that that's a stretch that's that's a you're really

[01:45:30] trying you that's a try hard you're not you're not look the people that wrote the fucking New Testament

[01:45:36] clearly saw all these writings and they like they wrote post-data checks you know right they

[01:45:45] they much like a lot of the stuff in the old testament yeah yeah a lot of the stuff was written

[01:45:50] to fit a current stuff that already was out there right yeah so like basically the story kept

[01:45:56] building on itself but backwards yeah yeah yeah to backfill essentially that's correct yeah it's so

[01:46:02] dumb it's so childish it's so not the way a good story goes couldn't agree more and on that note

[01:46:12] that was Jeremiah chapter 33 sure Spuck was which means that we will be back tomorrow with

[01:46:19] Jeremiah chapter 34 all right we'll see you then bye

[01:46:28] husband why do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today well yesterday

[01:46:35] we read Jeremiah chapter 33 we did and in that I recall that God was creating a new covenant

[01:46:42] that wasn't really a new covenant it was just like the old covenant but then again

[01:46:47] and like he started talking like an old styles like he's gonna bring back the sands on the beach

[01:46:53] and that's gonna be the Israelites they're gonna be all happy and shit and we're like

[01:46:57] block as this they say this sometimes and then I just don't believe it well I think it's because

[01:47:04] he keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over again right like thus far everything

[01:47:12] for 34 chapters could have been summed up in like a chapter yeah pretty much in my opinion I totally

[01:47:19] agree so I mean that was the gist of Jeremiah chapter 33 okay which means that today we're reading

[01:47:26] Jeremiah chapter 34 all right let's do this okay doke

[01:47:39] all right so we are jumping into Jeremiah chapter 34 okay the word is bird yeah no it's not

[01:47:50] the word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord when Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and all his army

[01:47:57] all the kingdoms of the earth under his dominion and all the people fought against Jerusalem

[01:48:03] and all it cities saying yes a lot of people that wasn't actually truly all the people of the earth

[01:48:07] and all the king kingdoms it's all the ones they knew maybe it's all the people that the king

[01:48:13] of Babylon had conquered and made into his army it was a lot of fucking people right to them well yeah

[01:48:20] I mean to be fair it was he had conquered a lot of nations yeah oh I got it and so you know the

[01:48:28] same thing that the Romans did where they kind of forced people from various nations into their

[01:48:33] army that's what Babylon was doing yeah when they say all the kingdoms of the earth under his dominion

[01:48:41] it's the under his dominion part that matters right I got it so anyway this is what the Lord

[01:48:47] fucking said okay yeah thus says the Lord the God of Israel the Lord said thus says the Lord

[01:48:55] go and speak to Zedekiah king of Judah and tell him thus says the Lord

[01:49:02] behold I will give this city into the hand of the king of Babylon and he shall burn it with

[01:49:07] mother fucking fire okay didn't he already tell him this I mean isn't this already been said to

[01:49:12] yeah multiple time right multiple times yeah and you shall not escape from his hand but

[01:49:18] shall surely be taken and delivered into his hand your eyes shall see the eyes of the king of Babylon

[01:49:25] and he shall speak with you face to face and you shall go to fucking Babylon okay okay all right yet

[01:49:33] hear the word of the Lord oh Zedekiah king of Judah thus says the Lord concerning you

[01:49:40] you shall not die by the sword you shall die in peace as in the ceremonies of your fathers

[01:49:48] the former kings who were before you so they shall burn incense for you and lament for you

[01:49:54] saying alas Lord for I have pronounced the word says the Lord okay but I thought we didn't like

[01:50:02] Zedekiah in a previous chapter or two oh we don't but I have some notes about all this okay yeah

[01:50:07] so first of all don't forget that in second kings Zedekiah tried to flee to the plains of Jericho

[01:50:14] yeah and instead he was captured by the forces of Nebuchadnezzar sure and brought to Reblah to have

[01:50:21] a quote unquote face-to-face meeting with the Babylonian king okay so all this happened in

[01:50:27] second kings okay got it second kings also records that Zedekiah sons were killed before his eyes

[01:50:33] right and then his eyes were put out and he was deported to Babylon yeah that is not peaceful that

[01:50:39] is not well he didn't die yet okay okay he this was part of his punishment got it and again I have

[01:50:46] more notes about this so hang tight okay yeah so soon after this prophecy the Babylonians captured

[01:50:53] Zedekiah and per second kings they killed the sons blah blah blah put out his eyes right yeah

[01:50:59] welcome to Babylon and there is a Jewish tradition that Nebuchadnezzar upon a festival day

[01:51:07] caused Zedekiah to be brought out of prison and abused him mercilessly before the princes just

[01:51:14] for funzees oh wow yeah and out of shame and grief he died soon after wow but then Nebuchadnezzar

[01:51:22] caused him to be honorably buried maybe like oh shit I didn't see that comment oops I guess we

[01:51:29] went too far forcing his former subjects to burn sweet incense and to bewail his death maybe because

[01:51:36] they didn't like him that was punishment too I don't know I really don't know but according to

[01:51:44] yeah all these different stories he was actually celebrated upon death so he did have a peaceful

[01:51:52] death he just didn't have a peaceful ride getting there okay all right so here we go it's a little

[01:51:58] misleading just you know it is if you're not if you don't take into account the other

[01:52:03] aspects that we have read in the past yes which I wouldn't have picked up on that without the notes

[01:52:08] exactly me neither yeah and another thing to keep in mind that I keep on forgetting is Ezra

[01:52:16] and Neha Maya they came after this stuff that we're reading now okay yeah like I keep getting confused

[01:52:24] and I keep forgetting where we are in the whole Babylon came saw and kicked its ass yeah right

[01:52:31] right yeah it's very confusing to it is then Jeremiah the prophet spoke all these words to Zedekiah

[01:52:38] King of Judah in Jerusalem when the king of Babylon's army fought against Jerusalem and all the cities

[01:52:44] of Judah that were left against lashechen azeka azakah for only these fortified cities remained

[01:52:53] of the cities of Judah okay I have some notes about that as well okay so the city of lashech was 20 to

[01:53:00] 30 miles southwest of Jerusalem okay the city of azakah was 11 miles ish north northwest of lashech

[01:53:10] and 18 miles ish southwest of Jerusalem okay now the book of Joshua noted that lashech was one

[01:53:18] of the strongest towns of the ammarites in the time of Joshua oh so that's why it was like one

[01:53:25] of the last ones to fall right there's just a well fortified city and probably yes sits well somewhere

[01:53:30] that's a very and roboum in my notes it says and I don't even remember what part of the bible this

[01:53:38] was but I remember his name right being mentioned and one of those kings is or chronicle sure yeah

[01:53:44] probably kings because that's the guys we're talking about right I guess um roboum had really fortified

[01:53:52] lashech like he had built it up so there's two separate mentions of it besides just now in Jeremiah

[01:54:00] being a really strong well fortified city that lasted and there's a reason for that lashech and

[01:54:09] azakah were both close to the Egyptian border no yeah so because of the Egyptian threat

[01:54:16] nevacad nezir had to secure the strategic points to the south before he was able to complete the

[01:54:22] conquest of Jerusalem got it so those were the last two cities to fall because they were the most

[01:54:28] fortified they were the most fortified because of their location and because people prior to

[01:54:34] zedakaya had you know seen the strategic use of the cities in building them up to protect them

[01:54:42] against Egypt right okay so I thought that was of note sure okay so now we're getting into a different

[01:54:49] part a different section okay so that was that was that section where we're like oh that's

[01:54:54] sucked and he's coming to get John and zedakaya you're gonna die but not kind of in whatever

[01:55:00] right okay okay now we're in a totally different section okay this is the word that came to Jeremiah

[01:55:06] from the Lord after king zedakaya had made a covenant with all the people who were at Jerusalem

[01:55:12] to proclaim liberty to them that every man should set free his male and female slave a Hebrew man

[01:55:21] or woman that no one should keep a Jewish brother in bondage now when all the princes and all the

[01:55:27] people who had entered into the covenant heard that everyone should set free his male and female slaves

[01:55:33] that no one should keep them in bondage anymore they obeyed him and they let him go right but afterward

[01:55:39] they changed their minds and made the male and female slaves return when they whom they had set free

[01:55:44] and brought them into subjection as male and female slaves okay therefore the word of the Lord

[01:55:50] came to Jeremiah from the Lord saying that's fucked up well you know I'll tell you what he said in

[01:55:55] a minute but I have some notes about the back and forth here of hey let him go okay wait no never

[01:56:01] mind I don't want to listen to you zedakaya right right right right get over your slaves yeah I'm assuming

[01:56:07] they had it good and they're like fuck this I'm gonna get them back pretty much yes yes that is

[01:56:12] pretty much what happened it is likely the owners did this because while under siege they didn't want

[01:56:18] to be responsible for feeding their slaves there was no work in the fields for them to do anyways got

[01:56:23] and they probably would be better soldiers against the Babylonians if they were free you know right yeah

[01:56:30] like hey let's let these guys fight for us kind of thing right but around this time like right after

[01:56:36] the owners set them free yeah um word came that an Egyptian army was marching to relieve Jerusalem

[01:56:44] because remember Jerusalem and Babylon were fighting each other over um these people right the Jews

[01:56:51] so the the Jewish people were like well fuck it is or Egypt's got our back I want to take my

[01:56:56] slave back goddamn well this news caused the Babylonians to lift their siege uh and temporarily go

[01:57:03] attack the Egyptians um you know they needed to regroup and and take care of that larger threat

[01:57:10] yeah right so Babylonian withdrawal withdrawals right yeah so with the Babylonian threat supposedly gone

[01:57:17] there was no more need to radically repent or go without their servants okay whatever reason

[01:57:24] that they let them go yeah yeah right so they forced the newly freed slaves back into servitude

[01:57:30] got it yeah like what the fuck that is some fucked up shit right you know I they they hold

[01:57:35] they talk a lot about like law and and the way things are justly this way because of the laws

[01:57:43] they've created in their world mm-hmm this feels like if you let me go if you set me free

[01:57:50] fuck you I'm not coming back the law says that I was free so I'm free right like I mean obviously

[01:57:55] they don't have the power to actually hold that but it feels very not cool here's the argument

[01:58:02] against that and I'm not saying that this is true or how much credence I have I'm putting in

[01:58:08] that okay um one of the arguments is that the translations don't always indicate the word slavery

[01:58:17] as in slave sometimes the word according to some scholars most likely apologises my guess right

[01:58:27] say that the word is actually a person who sells them self in slavery so we're an indentured servant

[01:58:35] an indentured servant is what we're talking about here yeah in many cases not in all cases I would

[01:58:43] assume anybody who had migrated into their group was not just like a friendly hey I will help you

[01:58:51] if you will help me right right um also early on it was supposed to be this whole seven year

[01:58:57] yeah and then let them go right and they weren't doing that right so that's what God's pissed about

[01:59:03] he's like I fucking told you to fucking let them go and you did but only because of this coming war

[01:59:11] right and then as soon as the war stopped for like two seconds you fuckers went and got these people

[01:59:17] back into your care what the hell yeah so God's a little uppity pissed okay I mean I mean he's allowed

[01:59:25] for slavery in the past so I don't really but again was it slavery or was it indentured servitude

[01:59:31] is I think I recall bits of slavery I do as well so I mean I don't want to like say that without

[01:59:40] question because I can't recall an exact example at this moment but I do recall

[01:59:47] them talking about taking foreign captors and basically putting them in the slavery yeah yeah

[01:59:52] and now even if we don't say like them being slaves is what actually happened there's definitely times

[02:00:01] where they took women from other tribes and forced them to be married to Israelites or what have you

[02:00:08] and I would consider that slavery as well I would too so I don't know I I feel like this is

[02:00:16] an unfair I if God is pissed off about slavery I feel like that's unfair to what he has allowed

[02:00:23] in the past and even commanded to be done I have a few more bits and pieces I can add to this

[02:00:29] conversation first of all is the use of the word Hebrew which we're about to get into God's

[02:00:37] going to use that word and it's one of the few times that it's actually used in the Bible

[02:00:44] and what it is taken to mean is not just Jewish people but Jewish people being held as captives

[02:00:56] against their will in slavery or servitude so that could kind of lend to oh I'm not talking about

[02:01:06] people from other tribes I'm talking about just you tribesmen holding each other right and that

[02:01:16] seems to be largely the focus of this portion yes and what God is saying he's pissed about got it

[02:01:24] he doesn't mind slavery he minds slavery of his people enslaving themselves to each other got it if

[02:01:33] you're outside of his people your subhuman and don't count therefore we don't even call

[02:01:40] its slavery we just call it having pets or whatever right because people only count if they are part

[02:01:47] of the tribe right yeah so and again I'm not saying that I agree with this at all I'm just trying

[02:01:55] to bring a little bit of this is the way they saw it got to the conversation okay so therefore the

[02:02:02] word of the Lord came to Jeremiah from the Lord saying the word of the Lord came from the Lord

[02:02:08] just so that we're clear okay and then the Lord says thus says the Lord the God of Israel he says

[02:02:15] he says he says yeah I made a covenant with your fathers in the day that I brought them out of

[02:02:21] the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage I know right like grudge much or petty or like

[02:02:29] remember that one time I stayed how often he brings up is like this favor I did you way back when

[02:02:35] you can hardly even remember that that was even a thing that I did like fucking strings attached to

[02:02:40] like Jesus I thought you would just do it because you were nice it turns out like everything you do

[02:02:46] is strings attached more over like I mean there's a lot of historians that have tried to have looked

[02:02:54] into the whole exodus thing right and it's very much thought that it wasn't really a thing that

[02:03:00] happened definitely not in the way that it was pitched in the Bible right and and and more over

[02:03:06] like even like hereditary traits we covered this a while back don't lend to the idea that they

[02:03:13] came from Egypt right like there's just so many indicators to say no this never fucking happened

[02:03:19] right and yet it's harped on yeah by God all the time is a thing that he's like don't forget I did

[02:03:25] this thing because this this makes you like oh me right that's why it's important to the story right

[02:03:32] not this great thing that I did it's this great favor that I granted you that you now have to repay

[02:03:39] me for you know eternity right and I just feel like Egypt was just this powerful

[02:03:47] neighbor they had that they always had to worry about and probably fought with a lot

[02:03:52] and so it made for a good story to say we escaped from them and we've held our own and you know

[02:03:58] like it just made for a good story and it's so cute because it's like but did you though because

[02:04:04] Egypt and Babylon are like these huge forces battling each other all the time for these little

[02:04:10] small lands and tribes and and so like depending on which part of the Bible we're in you guys

[02:04:18] are really small compared to these like huge kingdoms that are fighting over the big parts

[02:04:24] right but it feels but also Israel was obviously focused on Israel or on Egypt because

[02:04:30] it sounds to me like a lot of their most fortified areas were closed right up on order yeah

[02:04:37] so it sounds to me like they were very consumed with dealing with Egypt right like that was a very

[02:04:44] big part of their life even though Babylon came in and took them over right I feel like Egypt was

[02:04:50] their frenemies right you know what I mean yeah like when it was convenient they got along

[02:04:56] when there was a drought they were like oh Egypt could we have a little bit of water over here man

[02:05:02] right and Egypt was like fine but yeah for the most part I feel like Egypt was like whatever you

[02:05:12] little fuck turds right and probably Egypt did not care two shits for them until somebody else came

[02:05:18] and was like oh we're just gonna take this since you don't want it and then Egypt was like hang

[02:05:22] on a sack I didn't say I didn't want it it's my trash can okay like just because I threw it in my

[02:05:30] trash can doesn't mean that you could just come into my yard and dig through my goddamn dumpster

[02:05:35] right like that's that's the impression I have sure okay at the end this is God talking

[02:05:41] at the end of seven years let every man set free his Hebrew brother okay it's interesting how

[02:05:48] everyone's know while they they bring something back yeah you know from the early from Deuteronomy

[02:05:54] and Exodus yeah yeah who has been sold to him and when he has served you six years you shall let him

[02:06:00] go free from you but your fathers did not obey me nor incline their ear then you recently turned

[02:06:07] and did what was right in my sight yay every man proclaiming liberty to his neighbor right and

[02:06:12] you made a covenant before me in the house which is called by my name did they I'm like I thought

[02:06:18] their king just told him to do it right and they're like okay fine yeah I thought that

[02:06:23] Zedekiah was like hey guys um Babylonia is about to attack so set your slaves free so that we have

[02:06:31] more people to fight but maybe they maybe he announced it in the temple or something God says

[02:06:36] right yeah God says remember that time I was supposed to remind you what makes sense in a alarm

[02:06:42] in a political sense it would make sense to invoke God yeah or or or a religion or a god

[02:06:48] in order to get what you want them to do done right yeah so I mean that that kind of makes sense

[02:06:53] that maybe that would have been the way they did it sure then you turned around and profane my name

[02:07:00] and everyone you brought back his male and female slaves whom he had set at liberty at their pleasure

[02:07:07] and brought them back into subjection to be your male and female slaves um therefore thus says the Lord

[02:07:14] you have not obeyed me in proclaiming liberty everyone to his brother and everyone to his neighbor

[02:07:21] behold I proclaim liberty to you says the Lord to the sword to pestilence and to famine

[02:07:30] that's a liberty I'm bringing you and I will deliver you to trouble

[02:07:36] among all the kingdoms of the earth right here in River City I knew I was coming true knew I was coming

[02:07:41] you cannot tell me the word I know yeah without the music man right yeah and I will give the men who have

[02:07:49] transgressed my covenant who have not performed the words of the covenant which they made before me

[02:07:56] when they cut the calf into and pass between the parts of it the princes of Judah the princes of

[02:08:02] Jerusalem the unix the priests and all the people of the land who passed between the parts of the calf

[02:08:09] why are they passing was this a thing it was not I will get there in a second okay okay I will give

[02:08:14] them into the hand of their enemies and into the hand of those who seek their life their dead body

[02:08:20] shall be for meat for the birds of the heaven and the beasts of the earth okay so here's the thing

[02:08:27] okay um first of all um the uh sorry I lost my place here the the whole cut the calf in half

[02:08:37] and walked between it thing yeah um that was apparently a thing that some of the tribes did when a

[02:08:44] covenant was broken that you had to walk through the blood of animals that were torn a sunder okay

[02:08:52] specifically for this purpose and it was like this imagery riddled way of showing that you were a

[02:09:00] piece of shit that broke a promise okay but it's never been mentioned until now right and in all of my

[02:09:06] notes that I could find it was all apologists saying yeah they did this thing what and I was like no

[02:09:14] I'm not going to pretend that we have read that before we have not serves right and here's another

[02:09:22] thing like all of some were bringing up the fucking golden calf and I'm wondering remember how there were

[02:09:27] tribes that did use the golden calf as um they're symbol for y'all way they're symbol for y'all way yeah

[02:09:35] I'm wondering if this is like some of that mess over you know what I mean sure like they were so

[02:09:42] tangled up in all of their different practices with each other right right that I kind of wonder

[02:09:47] if it's that but who could fucking know because it just comes out of nowhere and apologists are just

[02:09:53] like yeah they did that right it was common standard practice yeah and I'm like maybe it was

[02:09:59] and maybe it wasn't where'd you get that info right because this the first time reading about it

[02:10:04] maybe maybe we'll read it like in another book of the bible but we haven't got there yet sure

[02:10:10] and they are they weren't quoting it right as you know per this book and that book and these books

[02:10:16] and those books yeah they're just like this is a thing so yeah I'm a little annoyed over it

[02:10:22] personally got it um okay so yeah I'm gonna do this that in the other and force them to walk through

[02:10:29] and do the thing and I will give Zedekaya king of Judah and his princes into the hand of their enemies

[02:10:37] into the hand of those who seek their life and into the hand of the king of Babylon's army which

[02:10:43] has gone back from you behold I will command says the Lord and cause them to return to this city

[02:10:51] hmm you know he's gonna make him do it yeah so what happened was um Babylon beat Egypt and then came

[02:10:59] back and was like we're done we're done beating them now we're coming back for you like we were

[02:11:05] in the first place right they they were basically like I'm coming to kick your at oh hang on a sack

[02:11:12] and then they turn around and you know shot the Egyptians and then we're like okay anyway as I was

[02:11:16] saying I'm coming to kick your ass right yeah and they did yep they will fight against it

[02:11:23] and burn it and take it with oh wait I said that wrong they will fight against it and take it

[02:11:28] and burn it with fire and I will make the cities of Judah a desolation without inhabitant

[02:11:35] because I'm a petty prick he really is he really is how do you just like decide that you're in charge

[02:11:40] and you're just gonna like burn down a whole city I mean that seems to be the M.O. of God it's

[02:11:47] gross I'm just going to destroy whatever I feel like destroyin this week God is gross because

[02:11:53] I disagree I think that you should worship me more I think that you suck God is gross God is bad

[02:12:02] he's a piece of shit and he's not my dad that did rhyme that did rhyme you know because

[02:12:09] everybody's like dear father yeah I know I got it he's not my father right no okay well now we got

[02:12:16] a rhyme in for the day yeah he did um and I apologize I feel like I was a little bit low energy

[02:12:23] today cuz you were you were you you were and I do apologize for that because it's been a long day

[02:12:29] well we're recording this as it currently says it's almost 2 a.m. it is and I got to get up at six

[02:12:37] and you got to get up at eight yeah so that's dedication you're welcome you yes you are fans you

[02:12:43] are welcome because I'm not even done yet I got more to do I know so all right well that was Jeremiah

[02:12:51] chapter 34 sure it's fuck was which means that we'll be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 35

[02:12:58] all right we'll see you then bye

[02:13:06] husband wife do you know where the hell we are and how the heck we got here well we just got done

[02:13:12] reading Jeremiah chapter 34 we did and in that chapter uh God told Zedekaya that he was fucked

[02:13:21] basically what he's been telling on the whole fucking book so far right right and then um

[02:13:27] Zedekaya released slaves sort of like he pronounced he said hey everybody released slaves

[02:13:34] and then um that you really weren't supposed to have in the first place yeah you weren't

[02:13:38] supposed to have and God was like yay but then like the the Babylonians you know stopped

[02:13:44] fighting the Egyptian or no I'm sorry they started fighting the Egyptians yeah and then they were

[02:13:48] like uh let's not release them so they took them back and then God was like fuck you yeah

[02:13:53] and but but good the part I don't really understand is that God was already like fuck you at the

[02:13:57] beginning of the chapter because Zedekaya so like he was kind of screwed either way yeah so whatever

[02:14:02] he screwed is that a kaya screwed yeah so that's what happened if that is indeed what happened

[02:14:09] that was Jeremiah chapter 34 which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 35

[02:14:15] all right let's do this oki doki

[02:14:27] all right so we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 35 okay before we do that okay have a few notes

[02:14:35] just a few a few okay okay so first of all it'll come to no surprise to anyone that this

[02:14:42] chapter is numbered differently in the septuogen did you still not look up any information

[02:14:48] that's for the Saturday that's for Saturday Q&A okay so if you want to know why a wife that

[02:14:52] is saying all this we're gonna learn about that yeah this chapter is Jeremiah chapter 42

[02:14:58] in the septuogen okay not 35 I wish it was 42 I like 42 better I know 42 is a better number

[02:15:04] it is a much better number right yeah 42 42 is awesome okay and do you know where your towel is at

[02:15:10] I I do actually know where my towel is at you are one whoopi food sass that whoopi food all right

[02:15:17] listen I got another note for you okay this chapter also in addition to being numbered differently

[02:15:23] in the septuogen yes is out of chronological order of the other chapters that we've been reading well

[02:15:30] that's dumb yes I don't like this like bouncing around the years and the places and the times we're

[02:15:37] going back in time we're going back in time yeah this records some events that occurred during

[02:15:42] the reign of king hwakim wow we're going back back back okay backwards yeah um so we're going

[02:15:50] back to about 609 to 598 BCE okay yeah so that's the second note okay third note then and then we

[02:15:59] can final yeah yeah um so you remember the Egyptians decided to fight the Babylonians in Palestine

[02:16:08] and Nebuchadnezzar temporarily lifted the siege on Jerusalem sending raiding troops to attack other

[02:16:14] areas in Judah instead right okay so that drove the wreck wreck a bite rush rest of bites okay I'm

[02:16:23] going to say they're rest of bites okay yeah um that drove them among the people living in the

[02:16:29] countryside so there's all these people living in the countryside one tribe of which was the

[02:16:35] wreck a bite rest of it's okay um it drove all of them to Jerusalem or other fortified cities for

[02:16:42] safety during that period got it okay yeah we're going to be reading about the rest of bites okay

[02:16:47] right and we'll get into exactly who they are etc in a moment but let's get into the chapter first

[02:16:53] sure okay yeah so just wanted to kind of paint the picture that we're talking about

[02:16:59] different people than normal and out of order of where we've been got it okay the word which came

[02:17:06] to Jeremiah from the Lord in the days of Jozaya King of Judah saying go to the house of the

[02:17:16] rest of bites speak to them and bring them into the house of the Lord into one of the chambers and

[02:17:22] give them wine to drink okay then I took Jaya Zanaya the son of Jeremiah the son of Habza Zanaya his

[02:17:32] brothers and all of his sons and the whole house of the rest of bites and I brought them I

[02:17:37] Jeremiah brought them into the house of the Lord into the chamber of the sons of Hanan the son of

[02:17:44] Igdalaya a man of God which was by the chamber of the princes above the chamber of the Meaziah

[02:17:52] the son of Shalom the keeper of the door that is a lot of words that is a lot of words so let's

[02:17:58] stack up a second okay yeah so the rest of bites who are they and why is Jeremiah talking about

[02:18:06] I know this one they were living in the countryside and they came into Jerusalem because

[02:18:10] they were under attack and it was more secure I have that is correct but it's not the best right answer

[02:18:16] oh man okay it's a right answer okay okay yeah so you're not wrong you're just not right

[02:18:21] I mean that's what you told me before we got another chapter okay okay you're not wrong you're

[02:18:26] just not the best right okay yeah the rest of bites were a radically committed sect among the

[02:18:33] Israelites so they weren't just people that lived out in the countryside okay they were a group

[02:18:39] of close knit descendants of the Kenites who were discussed in judges and in first chronicles

[02:18:47] and the rest of bites are known from the story of Jauna dab son of Ray Shab

[02:18:55] helped J. Who impurging the ball all profits from Samaria that happened in second kings so

[02:19:01] these people were like seriously anti-ball all seriously anti all of these other um

[02:19:09] um pagan activities and that kind of stuff yeah they were like no we have to live right and follow all

[02:19:18] the rules got it okay yeah um they lived as nomads rejecting all forms of urban and agrarian life

[02:19:27] okay the reason that they lived as nomads because if they settled down they would have been more likely

[02:19:34] to be introduced to all of the pagan rights and activities okay all right and also because they

[02:19:40] would have been encouraged to grow grapes which would have turned into wine uh so they were

[02:19:45] they were almost like a cult uh yeah they were like a commune these are like people that live in like

[02:19:52] Oklahoma or Kansas yes in the United States and they just like live in the country Sonona

[02:19:57] influenced their kids and they sent them to homeschool and like no one shall yes you know

[02:20:03] interfere with us in modern day times they would be like if some back-to-nature hippies had babies with

[02:20:11] the zealously traditional omish okay that's what they're like okay yeah so they rejected all forms

[02:20:18] of urban and agrarian life and they refused to drink wine or strong drink and they would not

[02:20:24] cultivate vineyards nor plant any other crops okay okay their roots went back to jethro the

[02:20:29] canite the father-in-law of Moses wow yeah wow that's going back a little bit yeah right yeah so I

[02:20:38] mean they were hardcore they stuck to God's word and they lived by the fucking law okay yeah

[02:20:46] and you know I feel bad for them because they're about to get judged by God because they're

[02:20:50] we'll see okay we'll see how that goes okay all right judges tells us that the canites you know

[02:20:57] father-in-law of Moses yeah yeah those people came from the area of Jericho and lived in the wilderness

[02:21:03] of Judah to the south okay and that was told to us via judges and for Samuel okay yeah

[02:21:11] and the rest of bites were not only connected by family bonds but they also likely received

[02:21:17] others into their group like the way a cult might sure yeah who shared their ascetic simple

[02:21:24] nomadic commitment to God got it okay yeah so it's like they're they're in a commune and then

[02:21:29] like people are like I'm sick of this shit I'm gonna go join that commune out there yeah exactly

[02:21:35] whatever you know exactly so I oh I scrolled and then I went too far yeah okay so oh and also

[02:21:43] the term a man of God where I said you know that they want to go in this chamber blah blah blah yeah yeah

[02:21:51] man of God was typically reserved for somebody who was in a position of like authority like a

[02:22:01] prophet or like somebody yeah yeah very very godly right not just a man of God like a man of God

[02:22:13] right okay that's the way you have to say it sure okay yeah so anyway God told Jeremiah bring

[02:22:18] those folks up in here and give them some wine and Jeremiah is like oh okay so then I set before oh

[02:22:26] and not only do that but do it in this chamber where um it's gonna be in front of other people

[02:22:34] but didn't didn't we just get on saying that they don't drink wine right correct okay you're

[02:22:38] following correct right I just wanna make sure and and again do this in front of witnesses okay have

[02:22:45] them come in and then in front of all these witnesses in this chamber offer them wine okay so

[02:22:52] then I Jeremiah set before the sons of the house of the Resha bites bowls full of wine and cups

[02:23:00] and I said to them drink wine but they said we will drink no wine for Jonah dab the son of

[02:23:08] Resha our father commanded us saying you shall drink no wine you know your sons forever you shall

[02:23:15] not build a house so seed plant a vineyard nor have any of these but all your days you shall dwell

[02:23:21] intense that you may live many days in the land where you are sojourners okay thus continue the

[02:23:30] head Resha bite guy yeah we have obeyed the voice of Jonah dab the son of Resha our father

[02:23:36] in all that he charged us to drink no wine all our days we are wives our sons or our daughters

[02:23:43] nor to build ourselves houses to dwell in nor do we have vineyard field or seed but we have

[02:23:49] dwelt intense and have obeyed and done according to all that Jonah dab our father commanded us

[02:23:55] okay yeah but it came to pass when never could nether he's still talking sure yeah

[02:24:00] came to pass when never could nether king of Babylon came up into the land that we said

[02:24:06] calm let us go to Jerusalem for fear of the army of the chaldeans and for fear of the army of

[02:24:11] the Syrians so we dwell at Jerusalem okay so he's basically saying we're still living by what we

[02:24:20] believe in even though we have no choice but we're that we're here because we have no choice

[02:24:25] yes continue our tent dwelling yeah and it probably took a lot for them to come into the city

[02:24:32] oh i'm sure knowing that they were going to be tempted and offered things that they were like

[02:24:38] no we don't want to do this yeah yeah we just merely don't want to die sure so there's that yeah

[02:24:46] so just to reiterate the drinking thing the point was not in showing that

[02:24:55] the drinking or the non-drinking was a thing okay that wasn't the point of the question the test

[02:25:01] okay it was to prove their obedience to the teaching of their spiritual father Jonah dab

[02:25:08] and to show it to the other people in the room yes that look they're listening to a dude

[02:25:15] right like they're not even being charged with listening to a god and these people are holding true

[02:25:22] yeah you know the fucks up with y'all that's what the point of this was okay Jeremiah didn't use this

[02:25:28] to make a point about drinking wine in particular but about obedience in general right okay yeah so

[02:25:36] all right then Jeremiah or i'm sorry then came the word of the Lord to Jeremiah saying

[02:25:42] thus says the Lord of hosts the god of Israel go and tell the men of Judah and the inhabitants of

[02:25:48] Jerusalem will you not receive instruction to obey my words says the Lord the words of Jonah dab

[02:25:55] the son of Rayshop which he commanded his sons not to drink wine are performed for to this day

[02:26:03] all the way down from Moses yeah right they drink none and obey their father's commandment

[02:26:10] hmm that's interesting because that would mean if they were all the way from Moses um

[02:26:18] i'm just trying to think of like all the people and events that have occurred a lot between then

[02:26:22] and now yeah right right it's a lot and they never drink wine right or disobeyed like they

[02:26:28] held true to their conviction that whole time yeah so interesting right but although I have spoken

[02:26:35] to you rising early and speaking you did not obey me y'all fox is what god is saying yeah right I have also

[02:26:43] sent to you all my servants the prophets along with a bunch of other false prophets that are seen like

[02:26:50] we've covered the before but yeah it's not real cut and dry honestly yeah god is playing hard

[02:26:56] at least at least with this is it ratio bro sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh whatever the hell yeah

[02:27:03] the the the call the lives out in the country yeah at least with them the hippie on that right they have

[02:27:11] um they have secluded themselves and they all agree that this is what they want to live by right yeah

[02:27:16] but you're in a city Jerusalem is a city they're not filled with different ideas filled with different

[02:27:21] cultures filled with different thoughts about what god is and what god isn't and to say that Jeremiah

[02:27:29] has the the corner on on what god is is to be it is false like there there are a lot of people that

[02:27:35] are saying what god is right and some of them even utilize the temple from what we understand

[02:27:39] from our reading mm-hmm they utilize the temple to do things that are not exactly um

[02:27:44] within the teachings of what Jeremiah would have them do right exactly so it's not a fair comparison

[02:27:50] it's not a fair comparison yeah sure sure um so anyway he continues rising up early and sending all

[02:27:56] of them prophets to you saying turn now everyone from his evil way amend your doings and do not go

[02:28:03] after other gods to serve them then you will dwell in the land which I have given you and your fathers

[02:28:09] but you have not inclined your ear nor obeyed me blue surely the sons of Jonah dab the son of

[02:28:16] Rayshop have performed the commandment of their father which he commanded them but his people has

[02:28:23] not obeyed me boom okay so he's holding them up as an example of goodness right and saying y'all

[02:28:32] sock yeah yeah by comparison y'all sock right whereas me and you are saying that's not a fair

[02:28:37] comparison god yeah and you should know that yeah therefore thus is the Lord god of hosts the god

[02:28:45] of Israel behold I will bring on Judah and in all the habitants of Jerusalem all the doom that I have

[02:28:53] pronounced against them there it is right because I have spoken to them but they have not heard and

[02:28:58] I've called to them but they have not answered what is it what is the point of having these little

[02:29:03] demonstrations if not to give them a chance to you know learn right it's like immediate he's like

[02:29:10] nah you know they're all still far you're all a fact yeah so yeah it doesn't I'm having you learn

[02:29:16] this I'm having you know trying to teach you this but I'm not actually going to give you a chance

[02:29:20] to learn it right so right yeah it's trash right um just to go back in my notes a little bit

[02:29:28] some Bible versions render when they say the chaldeans were trying to get us yeah some Bible

[02:29:35] versions use the word um chaldeans or Babylonia instead of chaldean and vice versa sure um

[02:29:42] the chaldeans were a group of people from southern Babylon as we know they were the astronomers

[02:29:49] they had been conquered by Babylon yeah like they were their own separate people but were conquered by

[02:29:53] Babylon yes exactly where Nebuchadnezzar came from the book of Jeremiah regularly uses the term chaldean

[02:30:00] whereas Jeremiah's contemporary Ezekiel uses both terms interchangeably sure which we're not at him

[02:30:06] yet but just you know yeah no I mean I get it chaldean and um Babylonians are essentially the same

[02:30:14] to other with regard to how it matters to the Israelites yes so yes exactly okay um here we go let me

[02:30:22] just finish this up and then I've got a few more things to say okay yeah and Jeremiah said to

[02:30:27] the house of Reshabites thus says the Lord of hosts the god of Israel because you have obeyed

[02:30:34] the commandment of Jonah, dad your father and kept all his precepts and done according to all

[02:30:39] that he commanded you therefore thus says the Lord of hosts the god of Israel, Jonah,

[02:30:46] dad the son of Reshab shall not lack a man to stand before me forever okay wow that's the end

[02:30:54] of that forever yeah so let me say a few things about that yeah to stand before uh-huh is in you know

[02:31:01] to stand before me forever right right right that's a technical expression which includes a sense

[02:31:07] of privilege in the very act of serving like I will allow you to serve me forever how gracious thank

[02:31:14] you for that right yeah but it's meant as a compliment though I know I'm using it here even though

[02:31:19] me and you are late because you're supposed to feel gracious that god is letting you be in his presence

[02:31:24] and and doing his will right thank you for letting me be your footstool right yeah right yeah it's a

[02:31:30] generally it's a term generally used of prophets priests and kings so the fact that he's telling

[02:31:36] this one little tribe of dudes right it's a very high honor for them to be in that to be included yeah

[02:31:43] yeah exactly some scholars think the promise was literally fulfilled in the Reshabites being in

[02:31:51] some way incorporated into the tribe of Levi oh okay which I mean that could explain some of the

[02:31:59] um like continuation of the Levi's and how they've reframed the yeah um the image of what they are

[02:32:06] yeah at some level I wonder I wonder about that too that's interesting and I want to look into more

[02:32:12] about that how do the Reshabites compare and interact with and like what is their relationship

[02:32:20] to the Levi's sure I want to know more about that I feel like there'd be some like I don't know

[02:32:26] I you know there's a lot of politics behind how Jeremiah's treated in this in this book right

[02:32:31] because he gets thrown in jail there's all kinds of things happen to him right yeah and the Reshabites

[02:32:37] this outside cultish type thing that follows the exact laws they have grown up with all the time

[02:32:43] since Moses right yeah so I feel like there would be some politics with regard to bringing them into

[02:32:50] the fold as well yes like that feels like there might have been this whole bit of contention going

[02:32:55] on yeah because all these people are kind of squeezing into this city because of the situation yeah

[02:33:00] and and then so shits kind of go on haywire all over the place yeah yeah

[02:33:04] I just that's how it feels to me again I don't I don't know this from studying

[02:33:08] no it just feels like a really interesting way to give them a reason to be there right I guess I'm

[02:33:14] I'm just imagining like if you took like a cult or or very let's say we took the Mormons right yeah

[02:33:21] and we moved them into a small town like let's say we moved like half Mormons half into this like

[02:33:28] it basically doubled the size of a town in one day right we took Mormons as that like that would

[02:33:33] be an interesting scenario to see how it all works out politically yeah how it works out socially

[02:33:40] what happens with regard to that you know like how's this gonna go yeah it would be interesting

[02:33:44] that's all no I totally agree and I feel like that's kind of what's happening it was a very interesting

[02:33:48] social experiment that nobody meant to happen right right yeah um according to the Mishnah which is

[02:33:57] you know Jewish writings um the children of Jonah Dabbs son of Rayshab had a fixed day in the year

[02:34:05] for bringing wood for the altar of the temple okay so that got it is how they were blessed to serve

[02:34:13] you know I see yeah part of that whole Levi tribe thing right right who knows yeah okay anyway

[02:34:20] that is it for this chapter okay so that is Jeremiah chapter 35 sure spark was

[02:34:27] and it's a little late today we got to settle a little late on our Friday here but it is still out

[02:34:32] on Friday it's very Friday which means that we'll be back tomorrow on Saturday with Q and a

[02:34:38] Saturday who knows what'll cover then right and then on Sunday we've skipped it a couple of weeks

[02:34:46] now so I think we're probably doing a Patreon and then I will get the weekly wrap up out

[02:34:53] and we'll be back on Monday with Jeremiah chapter 36 just for the record I'm really impressed that

[02:34:59] I said get the weekly wrap up out correctly now twice yes I am also impressed I gave you the thumbs

[02:35:05] up yeah and you said it I actually expected to fuck it up the second time but yeah so did I so

[02:35:10] like wow okay does that make me a back wife if I was I you didn't fuck up oh baby you didn't

[02:35:16] fuck up again good job all right that that concludes today yes it does and we will see you guys tomorrow bye

[02:35:30] husband wife do you know what today is and what we are doing well today is Saturday which means

[02:35:37] that we're probably doing Q and a Saturday that's right and what are we queuing in A in today

[02:35:45] we are queuing two things okay the first Q is I wanted to learn a little bit more about the

[02:35:52] rest ofites and if they are Levites okay what the fuck is that about sure so that's like on a small

[02:35:59] scale so that one's gonna be like short quick yeah whatever yeah okay here's a few facts about

[02:36:05] reservoir yeah okay sounds good on the the bigger end of the spectrum what's gonna take us a little

[02:36:11] time because this one's kind of interesting yeah is the why the fuck are the books in different orders

[02:36:18] off see I was I've been pushing this all along I've been like hey let's figure this out okay here's

[02:36:23] the thing I know this is just the intro so I'm gonna get into it right I will tell you that the

[02:36:28] answer is both more boring than you think it is but that all of the history that I'm gonna throw

[02:36:35] at you is like really interesting so boring but not boring yeah okay perfect you understand me now

[02:36:42] after you listen to this episode you'll find out what it's like to be bored and excited at the same

[02:36:47] time and that is what it's like living inside my brain awesome all right well are you ready to

[02:36:54] answer some cues I sure it's fucking let's do this okay don't be all right so first we're

[02:37:08] gonna talk about those reshabytes okay yeah and I'm absolutely 100% positive that I am saying it

[02:37:16] wrong and that's okay because I am neither a scholar nor an academic so when you do research you

[02:37:21] don't research on the pronunciation um no usually not it just doesn't occur to me it's not like I'm

[02:37:28] actively avoiding it it's because research is done silently yeah as I'm reading I was just asking

[02:37:34] you know I didn't only the only time that I actively do pronunciations is in my studying of the

[02:37:41] Latin language yeah and I will listen to words over and over and over again got it yeah but just for

[02:37:47] like actual research I'm just silently reading got it so no I probably should look it up but I honestly

[02:37:55] almost don't care and that's probably bad so I probably shouldn't have said that but what is true

[02:38:00] do you care how I pronounce it I mean ultimately know as long as you know we learn about it it's

[02:38:06] still basically the same thing so right it's just I mean are we ever coming back to these

[02:38:11] restaurants I don't think so I don't know based on my research I don't think so okay so let's talk

[02:38:16] about them guys a little bit sure so remember God promised them um that they shall not want a man to

[02:38:23] stand before me forever right right yeah um you know they're gonna be always good in his eyes no

[02:38:30] matter what forever and ever and ever right yeah that's interpreted by Jewish scholars to mean that

[02:38:36] they shall become scribes and members of the Sanhedrin and I know we talked about the Sanhedrin

[02:38:43] before I don't really remember what it is yeah group of like people that make decisiony things okay

[02:38:49] I think we're not there yet is why I'm like we'll talk about them yeah sounds familiar I just don't

[02:38:54] know exactly right yeah they're just they're they're smarties I also think it has to do with like

[02:39:00] Kabbalah stuff okay like they're just um a conference of old guys that sit around the table and

[02:39:09] a conference table and make decisions about things that's my impression of what the Sanhedrin is

[02:39:14] got it okay so the the rest of it you should be aware did actually become scribes okay

[02:39:23] that was apparently mentioned in first chronicles which I don't remember I I don't either

[02:39:29] but I also didn't give a shit about the rush ofites nights mites and I might have just forgotten okay yeah

[02:39:36] so or not forgotten so much as didn't care to pay attention got it because sometimes that happens

[02:39:42] to me I forget to pay attention so anyway um they did indeed become scribes and they did indeed go

[02:39:50] on to sit with the Sanhedrin so just to be clear I did look it up here real quick just to make sure

[02:39:56] the Sanhedrin was actually a Jewish court system with both the legislative and judicial powers okay

[02:40:02] there was two there was a great Sanhedrin and a lesser Sanhedrin etc etc etc okay so it wasn't far

[02:40:08] off I just wasn't totally correct right right maybe they played a crucial role role in interpreting

[02:40:12] religious law overseeing religious practice and handling some of the political influence and stuff

[02:40:17] like that good on you yeah yeah we're here I might as well look it up you know sure sure I appreciate

[02:40:22] that yeah again not really practical to what we're doing today but I'm worth mentioning it so I

[02:40:28] thought I'd throw it out there good on you this is a Q&A after all that's right right and I had a

[02:40:32] Q so I felt I'd aid wait a go a all right so it had been observed that God's covenant with the

[02:40:41] rest ofites or I'm sorry it has been observed by scholars and stuff that God's covenant with the

[02:40:48] rest ofites was superior to the covenant that God made with David and let me explain why let me explain

[02:40:55] why okay yeah because David's covenant was conditional according to Psalms okay yeah it

[02:41:04] was dependent upon things while God's covenant with the rest ofites was without reservation

[02:41:12] he's like period the end y'all are good forever that's the end of the sentence the fuck yeah what

[02:41:18] the fuck is that all about that's about when men write down sentences they don't necessarily plan

[02:41:25] ahead for the repercussions and compare this sentence to a sentence in a different place yeah that's

[02:41:31] what that's about okay scholars do agree that the rest ofites represented a reaction against

[02:41:40] canaanites civilization okay so basically the the idolatry and stuff that was going on in

[02:41:47] Israel at that time yes yes um in the wilderness the religion of Yahweh was the religion of a simple

[02:41:54] nomadic people devoid of all of that ritual and um you know all the all the weird things that they

[02:42:03] were doing yeah okay and there was greater wealth in the cities of canaan and all of that came

[02:42:10] together to make um the the canaanites very um just active and impressive and all of that and so

[02:42:19] they just wanted to shun that and they were like bitch bye right got it okay so that answers

[02:42:24] that question kind of some sure sure they went on to do stuff and then disappeared into history right

[02:42:30] right yeah okay so now let's move on to the better question okay why the fuck is the samhedrin

[02:42:40] it not the samhedrin the septuagent the both are with us why the fuck is the septuagent in a different

[02:42:48] order particularly we notice this in Jeremiah yeah from the bible that we are reading right that's

[02:42:55] the question that you had that you kept bothering me about well only because you kept mentioning it so

[02:43:00] like it wasn't it wouldn't have been relevant to me or I wouldn't have really even cared if you hadn't

[02:43:05] mentioned it so often so I was like well I need to know why so okay there's several different answers

[02:43:11] and I'm gonna go through some history okay and some of the history may have you kind of looking at me

[02:43:18] how the fuck is that relevant right because I do that yeah you also look at me like that's interesting

[02:43:25] but it's not related to this could you stick on subject yes and I'm gonna tell you all of this is

[02:43:31] on subject okay it's all related so just stick around for the ride okay yep so the order of

[02:43:37] the books in our Old Testament has been changed from the order in the three volume Hebrew Bible

[02:43:45] okay and the three volume Hebrew Bible consists of the Torah which is the law the nevum which is

[02:43:52] the prophets okay and then the coutuvum which is the writings got it okay okay so those are the

[02:43:59] three sections and we have all of those just in a different order in our book okay that's already

[02:44:06] different from how it's a Hebrew Bible versus what we're reading right okay yeah and that's

[02:44:13] before we even get into the septuogen okay sure so you following me I'm following you okay now

[02:44:20] the septuogen is some here's where we go off a little bit okay the septuogen is sometimes referred

[02:44:26] to as the Greek Old Testament which that's how I often reference it that's the Greek translation

[02:44:31] yeah as opposed to the volgate which is the Latin translation sure okay it's the septuogen is also

[02:44:39] referred to as the translation of the 70 and the 70 has to do with the number of translators

[02:44:48] that it had and that's where the word septuogen actually comes from oh yeah and so when they abbreviated

[02:44:55] they abbreviated as Lxx which stands that's 70 right so that's how they do okay so which is

[02:45:04] interesting because those are Roman numbers if I'm not mistaken yeah so we've got a Roman numerology

[02:45:12] abbreviation for a Greek translation of a book that was originally written in Hebrew well cultures

[02:45:19] of Greek and Roman were pretty similar right so their numbering system might have been the same

[02:45:24] numbering says whatever I don't know I'm speaking out of my ass right now but I mean I don't believe

[02:45:29] so but I could be mistaken okay if not I do know that the Romans took over and changed it right

[02:45:35] right right for that matter you could say um wasn't that all very similar to Latin because

[02:45:42] you know they're all very intermingled sure but but be that as it may

[02:45:48] 70 translators yes Lxx okay those are all the same okay yeah it is the earliest Greek translation

[02:45:56] of the Hebrew Bible from the original Hebrew okay the full Greek title derives from the story

[02:46:03] recorded in the letter of eris deus to the Locrates so these are some Greek dudes okay that quote

[02:46:14] the laws of the Jews were translated into the Greek language at the request of tolami the second

[02:46:22] Philadelphia's who was the Greek Pharaoh of Egypt in 285 to 247 BCE the Greek Pharaoh I didn't know

[02:46:32] they have that's why I was like whoa what the hell right there was a Greek Pharaoh of Egypt interesting

[02:46:40] yeah like I would love to study some yeah no that's that's a whole other history yeah that's

[02:46:46] Greek history I mean in that what I said no you said Egyptian oh well I mean he was the Greek

[02:46:53] Pharaoh of hold on what it is no hold on he was he's the Greek Pharaoh of Egypt that's what I said

[02:47:04] that's why I said Greek Pharaoh of Egypt and that's why I said Egyptian history

[02:47:09] and so he was Greek but he was the Pharaoh of Egypt during those years that I mentioned during

[02:47:17] those years that you mentioned yes okay and he requested according to these two Greek dudes can I

[02:47:23] please have a translation what is it Greek to doing being Pharaoh of that's why I said I would be

[02:47:29] interested in studying some Egyptian history and you corrected me and we're like no Greece and

[02:47:35] I'm like no the guy was from Greece but he was basically the king of Egypt okay all right right yeah

[02:47:42] that's cool it's interesting yeah okay so you could see where I'm like the answer might be boring

[02:47:47] but we are studying some interesting things along the way yeah okay so I and here the whole time I

[02:47:54] like I always just assume that the Greek Septuagint was like done in Greece but no it was probably

[02:47:59] done in Egypt apparently maybe maybe could be right so anyway this Greek king of Egypt was like can I

[02:48:08] please have a translation according to these two guys and so 72 Hebrew translators were brought in

[02:48:17] six from each of the 12 tribes of Israel okay we're gonna get into that in a minute because I'm

[02:48:22] sorry who what and they just brought them in sure okay the translators were sent from Jerusalem to

[02:48:30] Alexandria to translate the Tanakh from the biblical Hebrew into Coen Greek which is that ancient

[02:48:39] Greek stuff okay yeah for inclusion in the Tullamy's library so he just wanted it for his library

[02:48:45] got it okay biblical scholars agree that the first five books of the Hebrew Bible which is the Torah

[02:48:52] the law yep um the Pentateuch if you will were translated from biblical Hebrew into Coen Greeks

[02:49:00] by Jews living in this Tullamaic kingdom okay so in Egypt Jews living in Egypt got it okay probably

[02:49:11] in the earlier middle part of the third century BCE got it okay following me I'm following so far

[02:49:18] okay cuz you keep looking confused no I'm just trying to fall I'm trying to keep tracking my head here so

[02:49:23] okay every time I say this Greek king of Egypt your face twist like so much yeah I know I know I'm

[02:49:30] pretty much done with him though but I gotta say it one more time Greek king of Egypt for this

[02:49:35] Tullamy this Pharaoh right crazy okay the remaining books were likely translated in the second

[02:49:43] century BCE but that's a different story okay yeah some Targum's which I will tell you what that

[02:49:50] is in a minute translating or paraphrasing the Bible into Aramaic were also made during the second

[02:49:57] temple period okay so what the fuck is a Targum you ask me right yeah sure okay a Targum was an

[02:50:06] originally spoken translation of the Hebrew Bible also called the Tanakh that a professional

[02:50:13] translator would give in the common language of the listeners so it was basically like a guide

[02:50:20] would read the Bible and then translated out loud telling the people that were listening like if

[02:50:28] you know if the book is in Greek or whatever and these people are um you know not Greek right

[02:50:36] whatever the language yeah yeah and so that they could hear it yeah this had become necessary

[02:50:41] near the end of the first century BCE BCE sorry I got stuck there as the common language was

[02:50:48] Aramaic and by then Hebrew was used for little more than schooling and worship got it okay okay so um

[02:50:57] a lot of times these Targum's were not just translations like as this person was standing before

[02:51:03] crowd it was also um they would become sermons got it so you know there were a lot of people

[02:51:11] listening and then probably writing shit down in their own languages too right because they

[02:51:18] would you know be hearing this stuff and we have found like so many little bits and pieces that

[02:51:23] don't all fit together okay stuff okay sure obviously not everybody in the crowd was listening I'm just

[02:51:28] saying right okay yeah few people could speak and even fewer could read in the Hebrew language

[02:51:35] during the second temple period Greek and Aramaic were the most widely spoken languages at that time

[02:51:41] among the Jewish community the Septuagint therefore fulfilled this need okay now the accuracy of

[02:51:50] the statement by Philo of Alexandria regarding the 12 tribes of Israel that I mentioned we were

[02:51:57] going to get back to yeah is extremely dubious okay okay it implies that the 12 tribes were still

[02:52:04] in existence during King Talaamese reign which hello is not true yeah and it also assumes that

[02:52:12] the 10 lost tribes of the 12 tribes had not just been forcibly resettled by a Syria almost 500

[02:52:18] years previously got it right yeah so a little bit question there like the 12 tribes okay right

[02:52:26] sure later rabbinic tradition considered the cre the Greek translation as a distortion of sacred

[02:52:35] text an unsuitable for use in the synagogue okay they were like this is Greek and it's not right

[02:52:43] get it out of here got it okay yeah according to these names are hard okay according to

[02:52:51] Aristobulus of Alexandria yeah portions of the law which will be the first five books

[02:52:59] they were translated from Hebrew into Greek long before the well-known Septuagint version okay

[02:53:08] okay he stated that Plato and Pythagoras knew the Jewish law and borrowed from it okay okay so

[02:53:16] who knows when and what got it as usual history is a mystery right it is unclear to what extent

[02:53:23] Alexandria and Jews accepted the authority of the Septuagint manuscripts of the Septuagint have

[02:53:30] been found among the Dead Sea scrolls and were thought to have been in use among various Jewish

[02:53:38] sets at the time got it okay interesting it is several factors led most Jews to abandon

[02:53:46] the Septuagint around the second century BC or I'm sorry the second century CE okay sorry

[02:53:52] common area yeah the earliest Gentile Christians used the Septuagint out of necessity since it was

[02:54:01] the only Greek version of the Bible and most if not all of these early non-Jewish Christians could

[02:54:07] not read Hebrew got it so they only used it very begrudgingly because they couldn't

[02:54:12] fucking read anything else sure so that's interesting that early Christianity was based on

[02:54:18] something that the Jewish folks in 200 CE pretty much just abandoned yeah right that's cute right

[02:54:26] like oh Christians you're so adorable when they started giving ways or you know splitting ways

[02:54:32] way back then yeah yeah and they were like we're just gonna steal some of this and we're gonna

[02:54:37] steal some of that and yeah right they were always up to no good the association of the Septuagint

[02:54:45] with a rival religion may have made it suspect in the eyes of the newer generation of Jews and Jewish

[02:54:51] scholars so that might have been why they were abandoning the Septuagint yeah as the new

[02:54:58] Christians picked it up right they did distance themselves so they're like no this isn't the true

[02:55:04] form so yeah we're going to stick with the Hebrew things yeah Jews instead used Hebrew or

[02:55:11] Aramaic Targoom manuscripts okay see what I said they were writing some of those speeches and sermons

[02:55:17] down right later compiled by the Missor writes and authoritative Aramaic translations okay okay

[02:55:27] so there's all that okay sure the early Christian church used the Greek text as we said since

[02:55:34] Greek was the commonly used languages language of the eastern parts of the Roman Empire at that time

[02:55:41] okay and the language of the Greco Roman Church more importantly sure even though like

[02:55:48] the Romans were there they were still speaking Greek right so while Aramaic was the language

[02:55:54] of the Syriac Christianity okay Syria Syriac okay yeah the relationship between I'm having

[02:56:04] a really hard time so I apologize when I stumble over my words it's not all just because I can't

[02:56:09] pronounce stuff it's also because my stutter is getting worse sometimes right now today just then

[02:56:15] okay the relationship between the apostles use of the apostles being Matthew Mark Luke John and

[02:56:22] all those other disciplinary guys of Jesus that we haven't got to yet sure so the relationship between

[02:56:28] those guys use of the septuogen and the Hebrew text is very complicated okay although the septuogen

[02:56:37] seems to have been a major source for the apostles it's not the only one oh yeah okay they used

[02:56:44] several different versions of bibles as they found convenient that's the word I was looking for yeah

[02:56:56] so Saint Jerome you familiar with that guy I am not okay so my first introduction to Saint Jerome was in

[02:57:04] the original movie Ghostbusters when in the very beginning and they come into the library and

[02:57:09] they're questioning the librarian and they're like is anybody in your family crazy and she says my

[02:57:16] uncle thought he was Saint Jerome definitely seconds before um Bill Murray as her are you Alice

[02:57:25] menstruating yeah which is terribly sexist no longer appropriate all right but I am from a

[02:57:33] previous time when that was still funny sure and I'm slow to grow right okay so Saint Jerome offered

[02:57:40] several examples of verses found in Hebrew texts but not in the septuogen so he was pointing out

[02:57:46] differences even back then okay okay the New Testament writers freely use the Greek translations as

[02:57:54] we just said when citing the Jewish scriptures or quoting Jesus doing so implying that Jesus his

[02:58:02] apostles and their followers considered it somewhat reliable okay since they quoted from it yeah

[02:58:09] in the early Christian church the presumption that the septuogen was translated by Jews before

[02:58:15] the time of Christ and that it lends itself more to a Christological interpretation then second

[02:58:22] century Hebrew texts in certain places was taken as evidence that Jews had changed the Hebrew text

[02:58:30] in a way that made it less Christological interesting because the early Christians were like this is

[02:58:37] the one but the the Jewish folks were like this isn't the one cuz fuck them Christians picking this up

[02:58:44] and then later they're like wait no the Jewish people were right that one's more correct with what we

[02:58:49] want so we're gonna make that one the one yeah exactly really weird it just goes to show that you

[02:58:56] get right yeah just kidding just kidding that's not what that proves it just goes to show that

[02:59:03] people are fickle and they will always choose the most convenient path yeah yeah

[02:59:10] Saint Jerome broke with church tradition translating most of the Old Testament of his volgate

[02:59:16] from Hebrew rather than from Greek huh okay so he is the Hebrew to create the volgate

[02:59:24] that's who Saint Jerome was he wrote the volgate the Latin version okay yeah his choice was sharply

[02:59:30] criticized by Augustine Saint Augustine his contemporary right okay and Saint Augustine was

[02:59:36] like not impressed he was like you don't fucked up you piece of shit and Saint Jerome's like what

[02:59:45] right although Jerome argued for the superiority of the Hebrew text in correcting the septuogen

[02:59:53] on philological and theological grounds because he was accused of heresy he also acknowledged

[03:00:01] the septuogen texts okay he's like well I don't want to die over it or anything fine the septuogen

[03:00:08] just fine whatever sure but that didn't stop him from going ahead and translating it into Latin anyway

[03:00:15] right acceptance of Jerome's version increased and it displaced the septuogen old Latin

[03:00:22] translations okay modern scholarship holds that the septuogen was written from the third through the

[03:00:30] first centuries BCE because rumor it wasn't like they sat down and just wrote it all at once right

[03:00:35] okay so it was over the course of a couple centuries that it was all pieced together yeah but

[03:00:41] nearly all attempts at dating specific books except for the Pentateuch which was definitely written

[03:00:49] early to mid third century BCE so except for those all the rest dating all of them are extremely

[03:00:55] tentative you know what really strikes me here is that even Jesus and his disciples and all that

[03:01:00] stuff right they were relying on translations and and maybe not the best translations at that

[03:01:07] right exactly and treating them as though they were you know quote unquote the gospel right yeah so

[03:01:14] they mean like there's there's even questions if you are to believe in God there's even

[03:01:20] questions of legitimacy of translation even back during Jesus's time right like what was Jesus

[03:01:26] reading again now right oh you know various translations of the same Bible depending on whichever one

[03:01:32] made it into his library that day and fit his needs yeah that's very interesting yeah I had no idea

[03:01:40] like I'm just like what there's a Bible at the end right like I just didn't know there was like no

[03:01:44] there's really not there's really just not like the Bible I knew there was a lot of Bibles but they

[03:01:50] didn't know like what all the histories were exactly yeah and like this is a very juvenile elementary

[03:01:57] description of what happened sure okay yeah this is so cursory there's so much more than this right and

[03:02:03] I'm definitely watering this down for myself not our listeners okay so the differences between

[03:02:11] the septuogen and the other versions fall into four main categories okay first of all there's a

[03:02:18] different there were different Hebrew sources okay which you know um which source are you translating

[03:02:26] sure so there's that yeah okay the second one is there were differences in interpretation

[03:02:33] which that makes sense right still are yeah yeah okay the third one is there was differences in I'm

[03:02:39] sorry there were differences as a result of idiomatic translation issues so idioms did not translate well

[03:02:48] idioms are turns of phrase okay like if we were to say okay here's a really good example

[03:02:55] in modern day times when I was in high school learning Spanish um we were learning a phrase

[03:03:03] and when we got to the word blue jeans it was just blue jeans like there was no translation for it

[03:03:11] yeah so and that's not an idiom per se that's just a phrase but it's an example even today

[03:03:18] shit does not always translate right you know it just doesn't so like if we were going to translate

[03:03:25] the word hot dog um that does not translate into other languages it would be frankfurter or

[03:03:33] weiner or you know what I mean some other word yeah yeah and they would not necessarily grasp

[03:03:39] if we said hot dog what the fuck we're talking about yeah I really eat hot dogs back then exactly

[03:03:44] and it would not translate right so and that's that's the example I always give yeah because it's just

[03:03:50] so obvious to me right especially when you've got people that call them conies in other parts of the

[03:03:54] country I mean we call them that here sometimes yeah yeah pony dial line and gold stars yeah and they

[03:03:59] call them conies yeah yeah what's in there's another word for hot dogs too uh can't remember yeah

[03:04:04] it brought um I mean they're not really hot dogs but those are sausage right yeah but still yeah no

[03:04:10] there's another word that I'm trying to think of that doesn't matter at all whatsoever and I'll

[03:04:14] think of it like at three o'clock in the morning sure so anyway so idioms didn't translate okay uh

[03:04:20] and then there was the fourth one transmission changes in Hebrew or Greek meaning revisions um

[03:04:28] recentions which means we times that things were rescinded right right right and copying errors

[03:04:35] right so and I've read about some of the copying errors when I read a book by Bart Erman when he

[03:04:40] talks a lot about copying errors yes it's very interesting actually yeah yeah so there's a lot of

[03:04:45] that stuff yeah happening that you know that's before we even get into the actual order of the books

[03:04:52] sure okay yeah that's talking about how the Septuagin differs from other texts right okay so one of

[03:05:00] the main challenges faced by translators during their work emanated from the need to implement

[03:05:06] appropriate Greek forms for various out-of-use terms used in the Hebrew Bible okay so um for

[03:05:15] example I'm trying to learn Latin and there are ways that the words are structured that do not

[03:05:23] exist in English for example um if we say two girls yeah or two boys the number two doesn't change

[03:05:34] it's two no matter what it's always just two sure okay um in uh Latin the number will actually change

[03:05:43] based on the gender of the items that you're discussing okay right and so you kind of have to

[03:05:51] know that ahead of time yeah so that that's just one example of shit don't always translate well

[03:05:58] right okay yeah and so they had to create oh another Latin example this one's even better um we're

[03:06:04] learning cities one of them is nobum ever rock them that's New York which did not fucking exist

[03:06:12] in the time that Latin came around right so we had to create that why did we create it why do we

[03:06:19] that we can speak Latin but like why the why wouldn't you just say New York because um different

[03:06:26] countries say New York differently different languages refer to New York in different ways

[03:06:33] like in Spanish it's New Weva York something I forget so to to create a word in Latin we all

[03:06:41] agree that in Latin this is how you say it period the end got it so that's another thing okay yeah

[03:06:48] so I mean it makes sense I suppose well if you are trying to speak Latin and you've got a Spanish

[03:06:54] speaking person trying to speak Latin and you don't know that how he says New York is different from

[03:07:00] how you say New York right right y'all are saying different things right so it makes sense I promise

[03:07:07] okay yeah all right just trust me on this sure all right so modern Hebrew Bibles have 36 total books

[03:07:16] okay okay the books of and we have covered this before the books of Samuel kings and chronicles are

[03:07:22] considered one book each not two right we later on they were put in half because they were too long

[03:07:29] yeah and here's the thing the Protestant Bible of course divide Samuel Kings and Chronicles into

[03:07:35] two books following the Septuagint's method right why did the Septuagint um separate them right

[03:07:42] that's a good question sure I mean we follow that model but why why did they do that right the

[03:07:47] reason that the Septuagint divided these three books into halves for a total of six instead of three

[03:07:55] yeah was for very practical reasons they could not fit all of them onto one scroll oh yeah okay

[03:08:02] the Hebrew text does not contain vowels like you know even you could see that in the word Yahweh

[03:08:08] there's no vowels in that word right right right um thus it was much shorter than the Greek text so

[03:08:14] the entire book could easily be put onto one scroll in Hebrew but then when they translated it over to

[03:08:22] the Greek right they had to cut it in half okay all the long books became two instead of one

[03:08:29] got it that makes perfect sense I didn't know that I just knew like it is probably too long so they

[03:08:33] cut it in half I didn't know it was literally physically too long right right all right so the

[03:08:40] grouping of the books now here we go we're getting into the meat of it okay is according to their

[03:08:46] literary character okay so the Hebrew Bible divides the scripture into three divisions the law

[03:08:54] the prophets and the writings the Torah the Nebum and the Kathubum or the Tannok if we're referring

[03:09:02] to it as a whole the entire collection is the Tannok got it okay some of the books of history which

[03:09:09] are the Joshua through King's Bits yeah are called books of prophecy first the historical event

[03:09:15] is recorded and then the divine explanation is given so those bits are separated because they

[03:09:24] they put those bits together okay whereas you know other Bibles don't because they're they're not

[03:09:33] you know what I mean not exactly but so the we the Bible that we read puts these prophecy

[03:09:43] pieces as part of the history pieces oh okay so the Bible has moved the current Bible that we read

[03:09:51] has moved them from the prophets where they might normally be and stuck them in the history section

[03:09:59] okay does that make sense so they would have been like you're saying that the the part that we're

[03:10:03] reading now with regard to Jeremiah would have been in with like the King Chronicles and all that kind

[03:10:10] of stuff oh yeah okay yeah maybe that's what I was not following I didn't really place what you're

[03:10:16] getting at exactly but that makes sense because that's something that we have commented on yeah like this

[03:10:22] makes why are we doing this why are we going back three times now because um we did that with

[03:10:28] going from Kings to Chronicles it's like wait we already read this this bullshit yeah and now we're

[03:10:33] reading all of these other guys and they're covering the same fucking ground again right yeah

[03:10:38] that's that's why right um it's only a modern times that the books have been placed in a consistent order

[03:10:46] modern times being like the last several centuries okay the reason has to do with the invention of

[03:10:51] printing the printing press pretty much made it solid once they yeah they were like well this is

[03:10:57] the way it is now forever yep once the Old Testament began to be printed the order of the books became

[03:11:02] pretty standardized got it so it's it's an ink now can never be changed right the order of the

[03:11:09] books for the Old Testament in the English Bible is derived from the Latin Volgate okay so it's

[03:11:16] different it was the standard translation for Western Christianity for a thousand years wow yeah

[03:11:23] in the Old Testament the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament the Septuagint

[03:11:29] mm-hmm is usually seen as the basis of the order of the books which are found in the Volgate yet

[03:11:36] the manuscripts of the Septuagint have much variation in them okay okay so they took a mess and mixed it

[03:11:44] up and then mixed it up some more when they translated it got it so everything's a mess got it yeah sure

[03:11:51] everything's a mess that's the end of like no that's not the end of this I'm just saying at

[03:11:56] the end of it that's basically what we're gonna get to is that everything's a mess yeah all right okay

[03:12:01] the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts of the Old Testament usually have the same order for the first

[03:12:06] five books of Moses and for the four books of the prophets you know um the the prophets sure right

[03:12:15] okay um they go by history Joshua Judges Samuel and Kings okay which comes after the books of Moses

[03:12:23] okay yeah yet this was not always the case and this is still not always the case

[03:12:30] for example the Syriac Peshita Peshita Peshita and ancient translation of the Old Testament

[03:12:39] has the book of Job between the books of Moses and the book of Joshua hmm so I mean

[03:12:45] shit has always been in a different order yeah I mean that one could go in anywhere it's just a

[03:12:49] story you know but it's considered a history right okay yeah this occurred because it was believed

[03:12:55] to get this it was believed that Moses wrote the book of Job oh right okay the fuck right how could

[03:13:03] that even be yeah I don't know yeah I'm gonna put a hard no on that okay regarding the remaining

[03:13:10] books of the Hebrew scriptures the Hebrew order is different from the Greek order which we know no

[03:13:16] shit right the Hebrew order consists of the law the prophets and writings okay the law the prophets

[03:13:23] the writings okay while the Greek order has the law the history the poetry and the prophets okay

[03:13:31] and that's the way we read it English versions have followed the Greek order of the books through

[03:13:37] the Latin rather than the Hebrew order okay and that's why the books that were reading are in a

[03:13:44] different order from the Septuagint right but it still doesn't explain why the chapter is messed up

[03:13:51] inside the chapter or inside the book like you explained why the books were out of order that

[03:13:57] basically is the same thing just on a more pointed scale okay it it answers all of it it's because

[03:14:05] it was all a mess got it so basically they didn't know what the fuck they were doing everything screwed

[03:14:10] up and now it's in ink now yeah now it's set in stone no what's really funny is that like when

[03:14:17] things were written as in stone you could still change it right it's not written in stone but

[03:14:23] could you imagine changing anything like that today it would cause so much or an uproar wouldn't

[03:14:28] you write yeah I just find that like really is that the correct use of the word ironic you'd have

[03:14:35] churches splitting apart from each other you'd have a kind of shit happening yeah how dare you put

[03:14:41] Joe by Moses right what the fuck yeah yeah I mean I don't really give a shit it doesn't impact me

[03:14:47] and no no and probably it doesn't really impact them either probably you just you know something to fight

[03:14:52] about is like yeah somebody's gonna get upset about stuff so yeah yeah yeah so that was uh

[03:14:57] that was basically the explanation then that was basically the explaining see okay what did I say

[03:15:02] the answer was a lot more boring than you think it would be but the history was really interesting

[03:15:08] getting there yeah see excited and bored at the same time yeah yeah I could tell from your face

[03:15:14] you were bored through some of it I was I was a little bit but I can't hide those things for

[03:15:19] also you cannot you start budgeting and you're like are we done yet uh anyway I'm sorry I was

[03:15:28] bored that's okay somebody found this interesting and it was it was me and I'm willing to bet

[03:15:34] one other was definitely interested in a lot of it mm-hmm I just said at the end it was like yeah

[03:15:39] they moved stuff around and that was like whatever I know they moved stuff around but some of it

[03:15:43] was interesting yeah all right well that was our Q&A for today it was and uh that means that

[03:15:51] we're gonna be back tomorrow I think on Sunday which is Easter happy Easter mother fuckers

[03:15:57] and I think we're planning on doing a special patreon episode on I think we're gonna maybe talk

[03:16:03] about lent yeah because we don't know that our Sundays fall why we obviously Easter always fall

[03:16:08] on a Sunday but like yeah we kind of we should make it relevant right I think we've talked about

[03:16:13] Easter before right but I don't think that we've covered lent right I'm still not really familiar

[03:16:20] with what you read up earlier fat Tuesday I never even heard of it like what the fuck is a fat Tuesday

[03:16:24] they're like it's Maddie groan I'm like you're like no you're not a Maddie groan you go

[03:16:28] Mardi Gros not anything to do with that and I was like I'm pretty sure it is I didn't know

[03:16:33] and it turns out I was right you should admit that yeah yeah yeah but I am a little bit interested

[03:16:38] in finding that a little bit more about all that only vaguely though I tell way too much history

[03:16:45] I mean you gotta get boring and I'll shut down so you do you do all right guys that was our Q&A

[03:16:52] we will react tomorrow with a patreon and then I'll get the weekly wrap up out and then we'll

[03:16:58] be back on Monday with Jeremiah chapter 36 all right we'll see you then bye thanks patreon yeah

[03:17:11] all right so what is lent what the fuck is a lent okay other than stuff that's in your dryer

[03:17:18] that's lent whatever no okay Midwestern oh my god uh FYI for those who are just now starting and

[03:17:27] haven't heard me complain about this before but people in the Midwest can't tell the difference

[03:17:32] between e and i so they think that pin and pen are the same word I mean you if you're in the Midwest

[03:17:41] you probably just thought I said the same word twice but I in fact didn't so okay anyway

[03:17:47] lent not lent got it is the solemn Christian religious observance solemn a Christian so I'm kind

[03:17:56] of bummed because I was like for some reason in my head I thought it was something Jewish

[03:18:01] but it's not it's it's very Christian because it commemorates the 40 days Jesus spent fasting

[03:18:08] in the desert and enduring temptation by Satan oh yeah which we're not there yet so we're like

[03:18:15] who's a Jesus and what is this there was this like just prior to him being executed yeah wasn't yeah

[03:18:21] okay or somewhere somewhere in that realm of time okay um and this was according to the

[03:18:27] gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke but not John not John yeah John did not believe in lent I don't

[03:18:34] know they were talking about lent they were talking about the days that Jesus spent in the

[03:18:39] fucking desert I just like give you a hard time so that was the 40 days he spent before beginning

[03:18:45] his public ministry apparently oh yeah so I don't I don't know about I didn't even know he really

[03:18:52] I mean I knew he had the sermon on the mound or whatever right but I don't really get some miracles

[03:18:57] something about fishes and turning water into wine sure and his mom was supposedly a virgin but I

[03:19:03] don't know much about his quote unquote public ministry yeah I don't know anything about it I did

[03:19:08] kind of know he was in the desert but I didn't know that's where Lent came from yeah um lent is usually

[03:19:14] observed in the Catholic Lutheran meravian Anglican United Protestant and Orthodox Christian to

[03:19:23] tradition among others I was gonna say in my experience I most relate lent to Catholic yeah at least

[03:19:29] where I grew up anyway so um some anabaptist Baptist Methodist reformed and non-denominational

[03:19:36] Christian churches also observed lent and I can say that I I have seen it I have seen some

[03:19:42] Methodist and some Baptist practice it but yeah I most often would I guess at this point

[03:19:51] put it with Catholic right right yeah not not Jewish at least from where we live in our perspective

[03:19:56] and support portion of the world sure yeah sure um which days are counted as being part of

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