Bible Study for Atheists Weekly: Jeremiah Chapters 21 - 25 plus Q&A

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[00:01:30] Well, we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 20 on Friday. Correct. And in that episode Jeremiah was, well, I'm sure got on to him because he was saying some shit. Because Jeremiah is always like, you're all going to die and you all suck. God's going to kill you.

[00:01:52] Yeah, so, so, Pat Scher was like, you're going to get slapped in the face. And I'm going to whip you like 40 times or something. And then we're going to put you in this fucking torture device that makes you have cramps. But we're going to call it the stock.

[00:02:06] We're going to call it the stocks. Yeah. And we covered that a little bit in the Q&A if you guys didn't catch it. So, um, we did go over a little bit more about what actually happened to Jeremiah, which was kind of,

[00:02:16] wow, it was a torture device. Yeah. But then Jeremiah gets released and just keeps talking shit. But I mean, he kind of, for sure had it come in. I guess, I guess. But I mean, everybody had it come.

[00:02:28] I feel like Jeremiah probably had some warning regarding shutting the fuck up. Yeah, just yeah. That's just my opinion. Let's do it. I don't know. So anyway, that was Jeremiah chapter 20. Okay. Which means that we're getting into. Jeremiah chapter 21. All right. Let's do this. Okay, don't be.

[00:02:59] Before we hop into Jeremiah chapter 21. Okay. I have to clarify a few things. Sure. Okay. So first of all, the book of Jeremiah apparently is not a range super chronologically. Okay. So there is a substantial jump from the end of the last chapter that we read.

[00:03:19] Jeremiah chapter 20. Yeah. And the start of chapter 21. Okay. So Jeremiah chapter 20 ended in the reign of Joaquim. The son of Josiah who reign for 11 years. Got it. Jeremiah 21 fastboards about 20 years. Oh damn. To the time when Babylonian armies are in Judah and Jerusalem is besieged. Okay.

[00:03:43] So I felt like that was worth noting upfront. This is where Jeremiah gets to say, told you so. Kind of. Yeah. It should be noted that several events leading up to this have already been skipped over. Got it.

[00:03:57] That we read about in first and second Kings and chronicles. Okay. Yeah. So in 605 BCE roundabout. Yeah. Nebuchadnezzar first came to Jerusalem in the reign of King Wachim. And he subjugated the city and he took captives from the best and the brightest of Judah. Okay.

[00:04:19] So that was like his first little. So they were already kind of infiltrating Judah. Yes. So we were reading before. They were starting to got it. Okay. I'm trying to lead up to where we're about to start. Yeah. No.

[00:04:33] I was trying to make a relevant to what we've been reading. Yeah. So yeah. That was things that were happening or about to happen. Got it. So that was like I said about 605. Got it. Okay. BC. So then a few years later in 598 BCE.

[00:04:48] And then another few years later in the reign of King Wachim. Not mhm but mhm. Okay. Okay. And carry it away. The treasures of Jerusalem taking more captives like Zikil, which we read not him already. Okay.

[00:05:05] And he deposed King Wachim and he put Zeta Kaya on the throne as a puppet king. Ah. We kind of remember that. Yeah. Right. So then another few years later in 586 BCE or thereabouts. Okay. So these are like 5 to 10 year increments. Right. Okay.

[00:05:27] By the time of, I'm sorry, I lost my place. By the time of Jeremiah chapter 21 that we're about to start. King Zeta Kaya's reign is almost over. Okay. Okay. Nebuchadnezzar has returned a third time to destroy the city of Jerusalem and carry away the remaining people of Judah.

[00:05:47] I see. Okay. So that's the first note is that all this has happened between Friday and today. Okay. Twenty, some odd years or whatever. Yeah. That's for sure. Yeah. Okay. That's my first note. Okay. My second note. I want to say this upfront before we get there.

[00:06:08] So there's no confusion when I say do's name. Okay. Okay. We're going to hear about a guy named Peshwar. Okay. And that's important because, you know, bad Peshwar was like, you know, beating up Jeremiah and putting him in the stocks and stuff. Yeah. This is a different.

[00:06:33] He's not like that. He has to do that. Wow. Not confusing at all. Yeah. So I might be referring to them as like good Peshwar and bad Peshwar. But are we done with bad? I mean, I don't know. I haven't got there yet.

[00:06:46] But I don't want there to be confusion. So as I continue to take notes ahead, I'll try to let us know. Definitely a different. This is definitely yeah. That's true. Definitely different for sure. Okay.

[00:07:02] And I'm glad that I took notes ahead because we would not have known that. Right. Yeah. Okay. So and it's important. I think. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord when King Zedakaya sent him sent to him,

[00:07:24] Peshwar the son of Melcaya and Zeppaniah the son of Messiah. Oh my God. Yeah. The priest. Sure. Saying, Please inquire of the Lord for us for nebicadnezzar king of Babylon makes war against us.

[00:07:41] Perhaps the Lord will deal with us according to all his wonderful works that the king may go away from us. So they're like, oh shit those things that Jeremiah said we're going to happen. They've been happening. Right. This sucks.

[00:07:56] Hey Jeremiah do you think maybe you could talk to God for us? This maybe. And it's like they never heard anything that Jeremiah said except that he said it. Right. And so they're like, hey remember when you were we're telling that this would happen, make it not. Right.

[00:08:14] Yeah. It's kind of funny to me. Sure. Then Jeremiah said to them, Thus shall you say, Tizetakaya, thus says the Lord of Israel, behold, I will turn back the weapons of war that are in your hands with which you fight against the king of Babylon

[00:08:34] and the Chaldeans who bestese you outside the walls. So he's going to actually fight against Israel. Exactly. Those exact words were in the notes that I just said. Yes, he's like, God says fuck off with all of your bullshit. Too little too late. Mm-hmm.

[00:08:51] And I will assemble them in the midst of this city. So he's just like, right in the doors. Yeah. I myself, God. Right. And I guess you, with an outstretched arm and with a strong arm. I'm sorry, an outstretched hand and a strong arm.

[00:09:08] Even in anger and fury and great wrath. He's like, you said too little too late on the getcha. Dude's pissed. Yeah. Yeah. I will strike the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast. They shall die of a great pestilence. And afterward says the Lord,

[00:09:27] He will deliver Zedakaya, King of Judah, his servants and the people. And such as our left in this city from the pestilence and the sword and the famine into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, into the hand of their enemies, and into the

[00:09:43] hand of those who seek their life. And he shall strike them with the edge of the sword. He shall not spare them or have pity or mercy. Wow. You recall in either kings or chronicles.

[00:09:58] Zedakaya did get capture and he had to watch his son's killed in front of him. Yeah. And then they put his eyes out. Right. He was basically tortured until his dying day.

[00:10:10] Well, it's funny to me that so again we've talked about this before where God seems to hold to account the kings that are running back when we were reading and kings and chronicles and stuff like that. But Zedakaya was actually put in power by Nebuchadnezzar. Yeah.

[00:10:27] And so how is that anybody's fault, but Nebuchadnezzars? Well, because Zedakaya tried to protect his people. All right. So, okay. Here's like thank you for making me a puppet king. I love you. Right, but it's not like God installed him. It's not like the Israelites installed him.

[00:10:46] It was somebody. It was a foreign person who installed this person in the first place. Right? What does never forget that this was retrowritten? No, yeah. I look, none of this with regard to the actions that God is taking is anything that is even remotely believable to me.

[00:11:03] Right. But I'm just trying to view it in that light. Make it make sense. And say, God's punishing them for this guy, essentially and how he's running things because He's not making them godly enough. But they weren't even installed by God. They weren't installed by their people.

[00:11:19] They were installed. He was installed by a foreign leader. But the people were supposed to come to God and they didn't. Yeah, they keep saying that in a general sense, but they also keep referring to the kings. And they keep referring to the people that are in charge.

[00:11:37] Sure. So it seems to me that it's more of an overarching. This is how the everything is going because of these leaders. And I'm going to punish you all because of that. Oh, yeah. So, exactly. Again, it just feels a little not fair. That's all. Yeah.

[00:11:56] I got that. I got that. That's not fair. Especially if there's a god. If there is a god, this feels very not fair. Right. No, I totally agree with you. It doesn't account for individuals. It doesn't account for anything outside of the leadership sucks. Yep.

[00:12:13] That's the fact, Jack. Now, you shall say to this people, thus says the Lord, behold, I set before you the way of life and the way of death. He who remains in this city shall die by the sword, by famine and by pestilence.

[00:12:30] But he who goes out and affects to the child they end who besiege you. He shall live in his life shall be as a prize to him. So he's saying there's no sense fighting. You're only hope is in surrender. Right.

[00:12:45] And that will be your, you know, if you can surrender to the child ayans, I'll make sure you live through this. And so I'm assuming that because he's God is hypothetically telling them to do this. He's putting them through trials that he wants them to go through. Yeah.

[00:12:59] Yeah. That's exactly. All right. If you're able to surrender to the child ayans, that's the first hint that you might be able to surrender to me. Got it. So he's saying don't fight. Just give up. Sure. Sure. Yeah.

[00:13:12] For I have set my face against this city for adversity and not for good says the Lord, it shall be given into the hand of the King of Babylon and he shall burn it with fire Mm-hmm. As opposed to burn it with a nuclear bomb or yeah.

[00:13:30] And concerning the house of the King of Judah say, here the word of the Lord, oh, house of David, bless says the Lord, execute judgment in the morning and deliver him who is plundered out of the hand of the oppressor.

[00:13:46] Lest my fury go forth like fire and burn so that no one can quench it because of the evil of your doings. This is him having retribution against the King himself. That's it about what was going on in the leadership. Okay. Good.

[00:14:03] Even though that has been the amount of. It's, it's like a very strong woman. That has been the kind that has been bright and bright. Just a very strong woman said. That's the kind of course I want to be.

[00:14:18] He says, it's just a way this is going to work again and again. The kind of work you are in and all of us are probably the only one I can do.

[00:14:29] things devour all things around it the end. But I just want to I want to put a note there when he says I will Kinder a fire in its forest. Yeah. I could save this note for later,

[00:14:43] but I just it's too cool. Is a Kinder or Kindle? Kindle. Okay. Did I say Kinder twice? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just can't do bothering me. I will Kindle a fire. Okay. I was doing that that dyslexia

[00:14:56] thing that I like to do. I will Kindle a fire in its forest. Okay. This reference is likely to the royal palace which in first Kings is referred to as the house of the forest of Lebanon because of the

[00:15:13] considerable quantity of seed are used in its construction. Remember we do remember I was reading about that. Yeah. I just thought that is so cool. So that forest is about to buck him burn. That's sad. Yeah. It is

[00:15:27] poor Lebanon trees. I don't know how I feel this chapter was um it's just kind of perfunctory. Right? Like it's yep yep here it is. God's gonna destroy them all and they're gonna get captured

[00:15:39] and the Kings and the die and and the things that Jeremiah said are coming true. Look how they're coming true. I don't think it was perfunctory. I think it was like I didn't expect that God was

[00:15:50] gonna be like um if you will surrender to the child A and I'll consider letting you live and give you another chance eventually. It won't be easy. Yeah. You're gonna be captured and you're gonna be

[00:16:03] live and elsewhere. You'll be a slave and stuff but I'll make sure you survive this. I didn't see that coming. So what would you have to he had to I mean we knew that they were going to get

[00:16:14] captured. We knew that they were gonna come back at some point after they get captured. So like obviously they have to put that in a frame that God is allowing this to happen. You know they have to frame

[00:16:24] it that way. So I find it interesting the way they allow that. Sure and I wasn't sure how they were gonna you know they're always like the asheropoles are all gone and then we find out later they

[00:16:36] aren't but they never explained like God saying why some still exist right? Right. Skip over that explanation. I wonder if there's a point in the Bible where we're gonna reach where they're just gonna stop talking about all these um bottles and shearopoles and more. Well because obviously

[00:16:52] they didn't all completely disappear, right? Like ever. The pagan worship thing. Yeah that that's still like we've talked about before there's still remnants of that in Christianity today. So it's it never totally disappeared. I would assume that it becomes less and less, right? They start

[00:17:12] railing against it less and less often. Is that what you mean? Yeah well I mean clearly because like we still have a Christmas tree to this day right? Yeah right. So I mean it just has to like I guess it

[00:17:23] just fades over time I don't know but I would imagine the New Testament is less railing against idols and things like that probably. And probably more concentrating on the persecution of Jesus and His miracles or whatever. Right and I'm not saying that they don't mention idols and

[00:17:37] New Testament they probably do. I don't know I haven't ever run it. Right but I would imagine it's much less than they do because they talk about it all the time in the Old Testament. Yeah.

[00:17:46] Yeah. At least thus far. Yeah. So I was just thinking about Christmas trees again and how those are basically as share-upoles. Or they think about it because they were decorating the wood in, you know the trees and they were like you know doing their sex acts

[00:18:07] and their sacrifices and stuff under the trees. I imagine it completely different because the asheropoles they had in their houses which I just imagined is like a wooden idol of some type and the trees were something that they did rituals without side as well as inside

[00:18:26] when the festivals came they would bring like you know. So I don't know yeah and stuff like that they would bring the trees inside but that was different. I need to know much more about Christmas

[00:18:36] yeah I know I definitely want to dive down into the you know asheropoles. Sure full Christmas tree you know like all that stuff like I would really be interested in intrigued by some of those

[00:18:47] practices that were still going on in biblical times because they are very relevant in some sense to what we're actually reading right now because those practices were still happening so and are in art yes somewhat still relevant even today. Yeah. The got carried through in some

[00:19:04] in some meaningful fashion I wonder if regard to some of our practices today. I wonder if the may pull falls into that. Are you familiar with the may pull? No. Okay so when may okay this is totally

[00:19:15] off-topping but in May I don't know what they're celebrating but they put up a pull and they tie like ribbons to it and then they dance around the things okay. The pull and you know wrap the ribbons

[00:19:29] around sure and I don't know if that's pagan or if that's something else like I don't know. I have no idea maybe one of our listeners can tell us if you know what the may pull is all about.

[00:19:37] Well I mean I got to do this really so I'm thinking I'm thinking maybe sometime in May we'll do a may pull if it's worthwhile. Yeah. I'll make it worthwhile. I'll make that shit worthwhile. I'm

[00:19:50] interested. Okay yeah sorry. Well that was Jeremiah chapter 21. Sure, it's fuck was. Which means will we back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 22? All right we'll see you then. Bye. Wife. Do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today? Well yesterday

[00:20:12] we read Jeremiah chapter 21. We did and in that I believe Jeremiah was kind of chastising the king and I was at Zeta Kaya and he was telling him how you know Jeremiah or not Jeremiah how

[00:20:28] Jerusalem is falling and how he's gonna get punished and then you guys suck and you did all the bad things and it was 20 years later and it was 20 oh yeah that's right yeah we moved we jumped

[00:20:39] forward 20 years from the previous chapter which was the Jeremiah 20 so yeah we jumped forward a lot and yeah the shit that Jeremiah was saying what's gonna happen it that stuff's happening but it's apparently kind of been happening right since even 20 years ago sort of in on an off-type

[00:20:56] fashion so yeah I don't know whatever. So that was Jeremiah chapter 21 which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 22. All right let's do this. Okay dokey. All right we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 22 okay. The says the Lord.

[00:21:24] The says. Go down to the house of the king of Judah and there speak this word and say here's the word of the Lord. Oh King of Judah you who sit on the throne of David,

[00:21:37] you and your servants and your people who enter these gates. Okay. That says the Lord. He said it. No he's about to say some more stuff. I think or because he didn't really say much there.

[00:21:48] Right he's saying he is. Hey you come on. He's like I was just like an introduction. Really long winded one. Right but and now he's he's gonna say some stuff. Okay. I'm ready. Execute judgment and righteousness and deliver the plundered out of the hand of the oppressor

[00:22:05] do no wrong and do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless or the widow, nor shed in his blood in this place. I think that's a sale. Yeah like I thought we were just doing those things

[00:22:18] that you just said not to do in the last chapter where we were what the fuck's going on here. You say and stop it. I thought he was going to like specifically the King of Judah. He was going to

[00:22:31] not be treating well and now he's like hey King of Judah treat these people well and I'm like but you're already conquering them and exiling them. So what what is this? I don't know it's like

[00:22:43] he's repeating that don't forget to be nice. Or did we jump backward in time again or did we like I mean what's going on here? I don't know. Okay. For you need to do this thing then shall enter

[00:22:55] the gates of this house writing on horses and on chariots accompanied by servants and people, kings who sit on the throne of David but if you will not hear these words I swear by myself

[00:23:08] says the Lord. He swears well. He a capital M myself. He swears he swears by himself. That's when he says me, damn it. Me fucking me. Okay. I swear by myself that this house shall become a

[00:23:27] desolation. Okay. For thus says the Lord to the house of the King of Judah you are Gilead to me. The head of Lebanon yet I surely will make you a wilderness cities which are not inhabited.

[00:23:43] I will prepare destroyers against you. Everyone with his weapons they shall cut down your feet or your choice feeters and cast them into the fire. You just said again this is like a repeat

[00:23:55] of things that he was that he was already doing in the last chapter. The Bible's doing a repeat well and also this sounds like it's just kind of cut into into this book. Like it doesn't really

[00:24:06] feel like a Jeremiah chapter. This feels like some sort of thing that they inserted into Jeremiah because like hey this stuff is similar let's put it here. So have you ever heard of a happy planner?

[00:24:19] Yes I have because you love them. Yes it's a disk-bound planner which means that you can move the pages around. Yeah and that is what the Bible is. Yes, it is. Pre disks they were just like let's put

[00:24:35] this scroll here. No no no no put it there but they didn't have any tabs and dividers. But I am curious like if we get to the Q&A this week. I am kind of curious if this is actually considered

[00:24:48] normal Jeremiah canon or if this is something that was inserted from elsewhere. Okay well I've already done a lot of the notes for this chapter and I will say that there's nothing indicating that

[00:24:59] this is out of place. Okay but there is a lot that happens in this chapter that I have a lot of notes for like there's a lot of people, a lot of names and events. Okay so sure. I have notes

[00:25:15] about that but like I said nothing that indicates that this is like weirdly placed or anything but I agree with you it is weird. Right just the word even the placement of this is just seems weird.

[00:25:26] So, but anyway I apologize. I will prepare destroyers against you husband just kidding against you. Everyone with his weapons they shall cut down your choice cedars and cast them into the fire and many

[00:25:40] nations will pass by this city and everyone will say to his neighbor why is the law in dunes? So to this great city. You know, petty asshole then they will answer because they have forsaken

[00:25:52] the covenant of the Lord their God and worshiped other gods and serve them. Says the people passing by who worship other gods. Yeah, no those gods. Not how that works. No I know like um they should

[00:26:07] have kept worshiping their God like what no I don't think that anybody's not that. They don't give a fuck about there God. Yeah. No if anything what they'll be like is they should have worshiped our God.

[00:26:22] That's what they would say. Yeah. Okay, but we're not for the dead nor be moan him. We're bitterly for him who goes away for he shall return no more nor see his native country.

[00:26:36] Those are the people that he sent that he said go ahead and go into exile. Yeah. Yeah. Go into exile and you can more for them. You can live and eventually I'll bring your ancestors back. Right. Right. So

[00:26:48] that's who you should spend your emotions on. Right. Don't worry about the dead people. They're dead or whatever. Right. For thus says the Lord concerning Shalom, the son of Josiah King of

[00:27:01] Judah who reigned instead of Josiah his father who went from this place. Now hold on I gotta note about that guy because Shalom who the fuck? Right. Yeah. You're like wait Shalom who the fuck is

[00:27:14] okay. Let me I got scroll back up to my the top of my notes. All right. Okay Shalom is the son of Josiah he was the fourth son of Josiah as stated in first chronicles when he was

[00:27:29] anointed as King by the people of Judah to succeed Josiah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And that was in like 609 BC. Okay. And he was de-throwned after three months by Farronico. That's why we don't remember

[00:27:46] me as one of those shorty long at all. Yeah. After three months, oh de-throwned after three months by Farronico in prison taken captive to Egypt and died without returning from there. Got it.

[00:28:00] So I know that's what the whole new spend on some of those those kings that were short lived in different things like that because we weren't really aware as to the other going on. Right.

[00:28:09] At that time when we were reading that but like there was a lot of people in baking them at that point and putting false kings and kind of just trying to like I don't know so it was very political

[00:28:20] obviously based on the the captors or the the people that were occupying their lands. I feel like somebody needs to write a really interesting cool book or even a series on Netflix or something.

[00:28:33] Right. That combines all of the information from um first and second kings, first and second chronicles and like all of these other prophetly things. And they sit all in a chronological order. Yeah put them all together. Right. Because reading about them five separate times,

[00:28:54] I'm not getting the full right. It deserves to be aggravating. It's confusing. Yeah. For somebody like me, you know I need chronological order. I need bullet points. I need things to make sense.

[00:29:06] Right and we might I mean that that might be something that would be worth doing a project on later on after we finish doing all the other shit that we've got to do. Like I'm sure somebody has done

[00:29:16] something but it is nothing that has risen to the top that would have been something that we noticed as a normal lay person. Right. And that's what I'm looking for. Well it does it does interest

[00:29:27] me in the sense that I would like to understand the his trustee of the whole, you know, the way the Bible lays out a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. That would be interesting. I think we

[00:29:39] kind of and we're talking about going back into this but we kind of touched on some of that when we were doing um the Asmoth Bible study. Yes. So because he did. He did come by stuff in the

[00:29:51] books. Yeah. Which we had talked about going back to that. Right. I'm kind of excited about that. Yeah. Because it's a great resource. I mean all things being said with regard to Asmoth

[00:30:02] and I'm sure you went in and stuff like that but the book itself is actually excellent material. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. Continuing on for this says the Lord concerning Shalom

[00:30:13] the son of Josiah, King of Judah who rained instead of Josiah his father who went from this place. He shall not return here anymore but he shall die in the place where they have led him captive

[00:30:26] and shall see this land no more. Okay. So and that happened to him. Sure. Because the captors killed him. Okay. And well and also because this was probably written after that happen. Obviously before. Yeah. Because I don't believe in prophecy. Right. Yeah. And to even say that

[00:30:48] that would have been a prophecy is bullshit because look we moved 20 years ahead. Yeah. You know like you're you're kind of mixing the whole prophecy thing by jumping around like you are because

[00:30:59] you're already showing us that oh we're writing this after the fact. Yeah. This is some time later. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I thought. Meanwhile back at the ranch. Right. Whoa to him who built his house by unrighteousness and his chambers by injustice who uses his neighbor's services without wages.

[00:31:19] And he doesn't include badminton on top of their. Yeah. Yeah. And who gives him nothing for his work who says oh build myself a wide house with spacious chambers and cut out windows for it.

[00:31:30] Paneling it with cedar and painting it with vermillion. Yeah. Okay. Those people sounds nice to me. I hate what people build a fucking house and cut out windows. Those bastards. Show you rain because you enclosures yourself in cedar. Oh, I see what he's saying. Okay. He's like

[00:31:48] you think you fancy now. Okay. You nothing though. Right. Did not your father eat and drink and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. He judged the cause of the poor and needy.

[00:32:01] Then it was well. Was not this knowing me, capital M since the Lord. So he's like your dad did great. But you suck got it or your ancestors did great. But you serve suck right right yet your eyes

[00:32:17] and your heart are for nothing but your covetousness for shedding innocent blood and practicing oppression and violence. Yeah. Get them. God. Well, and again, I hate that shit when you go back and

[00:32:29] look at these things in somebody and a king doesn't last more than three months. You've got to say obviously they were against God, right? Like they had to have been doing something wrong to

[00:32:37] sure to justify that type of a response exactly. So therefore, thus says the Lord concerning Joachim, the son of Josiah King of Judah, they shall not lament for him saying, unless my brother or a last, my sister, they shall not lament for him saying,

[00:32:55] a last master or a last his glory. He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragon cast out beyond the gates of Jerusalem. Last that sucks. A last it don't go up to 11 in and

[00:33:10] cry out and lift up your voice and be shone, cry from my barrum for all your lovers are destroyed. Those are all various cities and that's what he means by your lovers, your cities that you

[00:33:23] were looking to for help. They're already gone. I think it's funny that there's a city name Bashan because there was named after hog, which is almost like a deity sort of. That was apparently

[00:33:35] a real person maybe that fought against them but silly was seen as like a living demigod or something like that. Hog of Bashan, right, of course that was a city named Bashan. Oh yeah yeah yeah.

[00:33:49] My god, Hog of Bashan was a deity. I got it now. Oh that's funny. That was my bad. That was your bad. That was pretty cool though. Right. Okay. But it did remind me of Hog. It did. I thought the same thing.

[00:34:02] I can't think of Bashan without thinking of Hog. Yeah, yeah. Look. I spoke to you. This is God. In your prosperity, but you said I'll not hear. This has been your manner from your youth that

[00:34:14] you did not obey my voice. The wind shall eat up all your rulers and your lover shall go into captivity. Surely then you will be ashamed and humiliated for all your wickedness. Oh and habitant

[00:34:28] of Lebanon making your nest in the seaters how gracious will you be when pangs come upon you like the pain of a woman in labor. The only thing that we know of as pain. Even though men writing

[00:34:43] have no concept of that other than what they see and hear. Yeah, they're like that seems like it's bad. I mean, I'm not going to respect it or anything except to use it in my writing. Yeah.

[00:34:55] Like that's what pisses me off. Like you guys act like childbirth is fucking disgusting. You guys act like the entire woman's body is gross. But you're like, but I am going to use that example.

[00:35:07] You guys being ancient men of Israel who are writing this there. Yeah. Sorry, it's just you guys. You know, I'm like sitting there like whoa man. No, not you. Like yeah, ancient dudes. Right. Ancient dude, woman. Whoa, man. As I live says the Lord, he says he says

[00:35:31] though Knaia, the son of Wackeem King of Judah were the segment, sign it on my right hand. Yet I would pluck you off. Yeah, you will pluck you off. I'm going to pluck you off. And I will

[00:35:46] give you into the hand of those who seek your life and into the hand of those whose face you fear. The hand of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon and the hand of the Chaudians.

[00:36:00] I'm not going to say something about this signet ring. Yeah, okay. It's interesting that if you listen to our Q&A on Saturday, we were just talking about a ring that the Archangel Michael

[00:36:13] gave to Solomon to control demons. And so here we are God saying, if I had, if you were a ring on my hand, I would take you off or something to that effect. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, I don't know,

[00:36:29] that they happen to us a lot that we talk about something and then some similar thing comes on the other hand. What I was actually saying is that something about the wind would eat them

[00:36:36] up or something like that. Yeah. Oh, I wonder if that's the demon that we were talking about. Right, interesting. Interesting timing. But again, that's on our Patreon. If you want to listen

[00:36:45] to it though, that was the Q&A on Saturday, not the Patreon. No, that was our Patreon. No, you're right. I'm so sorry. Oopsie. Yeah, that was our Patreon. So if you want to listen to it though,

[00:36:54] you can always sign up for a trial membership. Yeah. And that will allow you to listen for at least a week for free. Yeah. And that was our most recent recent Patreon. So patreon.com forward

[00:37:04] slash, sacriolo to this discourse. A little accidental plug. Yeah, accidental plug because you brought it up. So I was thinking Q&A but now you're right. It was the Patreon Patreon. Yeah. Okay. So I will

[00:37:15] cast you out says God and your mother who bore you into another country where you were not born and there you'll shout fucking die. Yeah. But to the land to which they desire to return,

[00:37:29] there they shall not return boom. I see is this man Konaia a despised broken idol of vessel in which is no pleasure. Okay. I cannot wait until Saturday. I have to tell you this now. Okay.

[00:37:45] Like as I was taking this note, I was like, oh, this is so great. This is going to be part of our Q&A. Sure. I can't wait. Okay. A vessel in which is no pleasure. A broken idol.

[00:37:56] That refers let me just scroll all the way back down here so I can just read it because it's like chefs kiss, you know? Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I know you'll have to lay

[00:38:10] wife scrolling. So there were those here a second. Rolling. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, where's it? Where is it? I don't know where it is. That's uh we are at 28. I know you'll have to

[00:38:22] fucking well, we'll get through this. We'll get through this. 28. 28. Okay. Okay. Is this man Konaia a despised broken idol of vessel in which is no pleasure? The technical term for a pot, a description

[00:38:39] of a vessel of inferior grade. This being an indirect and sarcastic reference to a piss pot, aka a toilet. Okay. He's calling Konaia a piss pot. Got it. That's funny. I'm sorry, but that that's too perfect. Right? So he's like, okay, so you're a toilet and let's see,

[00:39:03] oh, this man is wise, you're a toilet. Why are they cast out? He and his descendants and cast into a land which they did not know. Oh, earth, earth, earth. Here the word of the Lord.

[00:39:15] Earth, earth, earth, earth. Wow. Yeah. To hell with a cry. It makes me think of when lorping and you have to like throw stuff on like, oh, okay, never mind. I can't remember what is called,

[00:39:31] but like, you have to say something and it means that you killed them or something. Oh, okay. When you're late. Yeah, I don't know anything about that. It's not that stuff. I don't think they

[00:39:40] have to be dead. Got it. Got it. Because you got them. So vocalization of an action. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. That's what I made me think of. Right. Because you can't, you know, I mean,

[00:39:49] you could, but probably wouldn't be advised. You don't want to know when I actually stab people. Yeah, stabbing would not be a fun game. Right. Yeah. Something like that. Anyway, so yeah,

[00:39:58] earth, earth, earth, here the word of the Lord. Thus says the Lord, right? This man down as childless man who shall not prosper in his days for none of his descendants shall prosper sitting on the

[00:40:11] throne of David and ruling anymore in Judah. He end. They okay. Is he childless or does he have descendants? He has descendants, but he's going to be recorded in the census as childless. So he's

[00:40:23] basically had his descendants names removed from him. Yeah. Does that mean that his descendants don't have to suffer punishment for him then? Probably doesn't work that great. I'm sure that they

[00:40:38] have all the bad and none of the good. Right. That's probably the way it would go. Now, I will save this more for later in our Q&A on Saturday. But there is a wait a minute hold on.

[00:40:52] Isn't there supposed to be some Messiah who's a descendant of these people that come back? David, line. Yeah. Yeah. Line of David did it just end here. What's going on? I don't know. That's

[00:41:04] good. Point. It's a good point. So you'll have to tune in on Saturday for more about that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And I'll give you a spoiler. I won't have a full answer. I mean, do we ever? No,

[00:41:17] but it's an interesting conversation and I will be looking for the answer as we finish the old testament and go into the new testament to be like, who are you again now, sir? Right. Right.

[00:41:31] Are you, is that, oh, you got for today? That was it for Jeremiah chapter 22. Okay. Before we sign off here, I do want to mention real quick. I did just recently change our podcast logo.

[00:41:44] Yeah. You did. And I changed it from Bible study for atheist to Bible study by atheist for anyone. Yes. So I want to be a little bit more inclusive because honestly, we have a lot of people that are

[00:41:58] deconstructing that are even Christian questions. Christian question. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot of people that listen to our podcast that aren't just atheists. Right. And the longer we've been doing this,

[00:42:10] the more it just didn't sit right in my mind to call it Bible study for atheists. Yeah. Because it's not just for atheists. There's a lot of people that really get some value out of this. Sure. And

[00:42:21] I really enjoy talking to those people as well. Sure. So I want to be a little bit more inclusive with our title. And so if you see a change in the podcast logo, that is what that is about.

[00:42:31] And I'm excited about it. I think it's really cool. No, I am too. I want to be, I've always wanted to be inclusive. But I felt like, I guess when we started, I felt like we weren't going to be

[00:42:45] able to be inclusive because of the other way we were going to be doing this. Well, we've come into before that we did not expect that the most positive mail that we would receive from people would

[00:42:59] be from those deconstructing. It never even entered our head that that was a service that we were assisting in. And even occasionally question and Christians. Right. I mean, like, it's very interesting.

[00:43:11] Yeah. Who we get emails from and who we get, you know, little notes from and things like that. You don't know until you know. Right. And we didn't know until we got into it. And by the time we got

[00:43:22] into it, we'd already started out as for atheists. Right. And honestly, we do this as a daily podcast. It's really hard to change stuff up sometimes. And I just have to kind of bear down and do stuff

[00:43:35] occasionally. And that's what happened. So we changed the tagline. So I appreciate it. And I think I know a couple of our listeners who will also appreciate it. And if you are curious about

[00:43:47] how that conversation might go, I recommend joining us in our live discord on Tuesday night at 10 PM Eastern. And yeah, we have a blast in those things. So yeah, definitely join us over there.

[00:44:00] Links are always in the show notes for our newer episodes. So check us out. And we will be back to Marrow with Jeremiah chapter 23. All right, we'll see you guys then. Bye. Wife. Do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today? Well,

[00:44:22] yesterday we read Jeremiah chapter 22. We sure spoke dead. And it started off nice enough. Like, God was like actually saying, hey, maybe you guys should you could maybe be saved. Like,

[00:44:32] maybe do some good things for you. Yeah, but then God was like, no, you guys are kind of shit. JKJKJK, fuck you. Yeah, I mean, um, walking or does that his name? One of those. He was he was like,

[00:44:43] he called him a piss pot. That call him a piss pot. Yeah, definitely. All right. I think that about sums it up. Pretty much. That was Jeremiah chapter 22. Yes. Which means that today we're

[00:44:56] copying into. Jeremiah chapter 23. All right, let's do this. Okay, dokey. Okay, was husband said we are jumping into Jeremiah chapter 23. I'm so happy and thank you very much. Did I'm sorry. Yeah. That's not jumping. That's hopping. It is different. It is Easter season. It's season.

[00:45:23] It's the end of this month. Is Easter? Where? I, you know, I don't say I don't pay a much attention as I used to. Okay, well, it's on Sunday, March 31st and we are in the first week

[00:45:36] of March. We should probably start talking about like special episodes and stuff, right? There's a rabbit in our backyard. There is a rabbit in our backyard. There goes some Easter. There's our Easter. Yeah.

[00:45:45] And it's raining. So I like eggs also. Eggs are my God. I love Reese's peanut butter eggs. How about that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So you ready for me to read this yet?

[00:45:55] Ready. Okay. Here we go. Okay. Okay. Whoa to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of my pastor says the Lord. Hmm. Whoa to fishes in the deep where they where they he's telling them

[00:46:10] stop like don't do that early. No, he's like whoa unto you like not like whoa but more like whoa got it whoa tears and sadness upon you to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of my

[00:46:26] pastor got it. So he's calling his people his sheep his pastor is the lands and the shepherds who are destroying his scattering are the pastors and the he's and whatever they are. The bed on profit,

[00:46:39] the false profits, the bad leaders. Okay. Therefore, thus is the Lord God of Israel against the shepherds who feed my people you have scattered my flock mother fuckers driven them away and not

[00:46:52] attended to them as holes behold I will attend to you for the evil of your doings says the Lord. Hmm. See he's given him what for he's talking to those false profits right now. And this is

[00:47:03] probably like because their profits is this like God speaking directly to them or is this Jeremiah probably Jeremy. I'm off as usual. My guess is Jeremiah. Okay. Okay. But I will gather the remnant of my

[00:47:14] flock out of all countries where I have driven them and bring them back to their folds and they shall be fruitful and increase. I will set up shepherds over them who will feed them and they shall

[00:47:27] fear no more nor be dismayed nor shall they be lacking says the Lord. behold the days are coming says the Lord. He says they will fear no more but literally one of the things that God wants you to do

[00:47:41] as a worshiper of God is to fear God. Oh that's different. Fearing him? That's okay. That's putting all of your fear in one egg basket. One can jelly bean basket. You give it to God.

[00:47:56] You give it to God. Jesus say to you. Yeah. So fear there is okay as long as you just he doesn't want you to fear other things. You don't have any need to fear other things if your fear is all in God.

[00:48:07] Got it. Okay. Hey. He got you because either you had a common or you didn't. Right. Yeah. See how that works? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So behold the days are coming says the Lord that I will

[00:48:21] raise to David a branch of righteousness, a king shall reign and prosper and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will dwell safely. Now this is his name by which he will be called the Lord our righteousness all caps.

[00:48:46] Hmm. All caps. Okay. Not just capitalize words. So all caps. I'm going to assume that this is kind of like a lot of Christians would take this as a Jesus reference. Yes. But but maybe

[00:48:58] and again, I don't I'm not well well versed in the New Testament. So I don't want to speak out of hand here but wasn't it the case that the Romans like you know punished Jesus for things

[00:49:13] and that's how you end up on the cross and everything which would make me think that the Israelites weren't really in control of their land when he was alive which would go against what's being said here. Is that is it? Yes. There's standing that correctly. There's some other

[00:49:26] stuff happening but yes. Okay. Yes. If we're going to if as I know based on what I'm hearing here people are going to say this is Jesus, don't we have to take it at its full value as all I'm saying.

[00:49:39] Um yes or no. Okay. Okay. There's some other stuff happening. Okay. I mean also like in the last chapter he like killed out or said that last guy you're not going to you and your kids are not going

[00:49:55] to count. You're going to go down and I'll walk you in or walking or whatever. Yeah. So you know that begs to ask the question how the David line stay relevant at. Yeah. How did it come

[00:50:07] to be? Well, um obviously we're not there yet so this is just something that I picked up that I'm just going to put down right here just for like hang on to this thought I guess apparently in Matthew

[00:50:22] and Luke question mark anyway two of the you know Matthew Mark Luke and John guys in the new testimony. Yeah. I think it's Matthew and Luke. Um they do some kind of genealogy and like you know

[00:50:35] begat, begat, begat, begat. Right. I don't know like I said I haven't read this but apparently one traces um the line through Joseph and the other traces the line through Mary and so

[00:50:50] oh it might be like swap they they cross the streams. Pretty much I mean okay here's the thing like the thing about those four I forget what they're called disciples right those four disciples you

[00:51:04] guys sure whatever whatever yeah yeah um the thing about those guys is that their stories are like very very matchy matchy except where they aren't and so the fact that they're so matchy matchy

[00:51:19] matchy is what makes Christians be like they're so matchy matchy that um that proves that their story is good but it also is because they're not exactly matchy matchy that's what makes them perfect. But it's well like I've heard the parts that don't match talked about before and

[00:51:37] I actually read a book based on this and it is very uh it's kind of detrimental to the story the parts that don't exactly match that yeah yeah so there's some interesting that are not quite

[00:51:49] again we haven't quite got there yet so I don't want to speak out of hand too much. Right no I know um it's just we're getting to that place where all of the notes that I read

[00:52:01] are starting to be like because these processes are actually referenced in the new tests. Yes so I mean we can't help but start asking those questions ourselves and uh oh what was it they you said

[00:52:14] where they don't match their detrimental bloodlobe. Yeah um I lost my train of thought so forget it but anyway yeah we'll get there and and I don't expect will be impressed but

[00:52:27] well yeah yeah yeah we know people is keeping people still even to this day like you just got to read the vibe like those come to me and say you just got to read the Bible. With an open heart

[00:52:37] oh that's how many I guess and you've got to be open to receiving his work so an open mind doesn't matter but an open heart yes that's that's where I'm making the mistake is that it is well

[00:52:48] I have to feel my way to God not think my way to that is correct absolutely because when you say you should have an open mind um the right perfect response that they will always give you

[00:52:58] well don't have your head so open that your brain falls out like I've heard that quote as so many times and then I heard my mom say it and I was like oh mom like it sucks when your parents

[00:53:10] give cliches that they don't realize are right wing talking point cliches and they're you're just like oh you're the stereotype right like one time I was on my mom how you shouldn't say to people

[00:53:27] like you should smile more like that's not acceptable we don't tell women you always a fucking smile right like that's don't don't do that and my mom was like I'm going to because you know it's

[00:53:41] nice and I was like oh you're you don't understand you think you're in charge of you know if you want to hug somebody you don't give any fucks if that person doesn't want to be hugged right

[00:53:55] you want to hug them so you get your way you don't care about them right you want to tell them to smile and you think that you being receiving that smile is better for you than it is for the person who's

[00:54:10] being ordered to smile or not smile right sorry I just it's very frustrating yeah okay therefore says God behold the days are come in says the Lord that they shall no longer say as the Lord lives

[00:54:25] who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt but as the Lord lives who brought up and let the descendants of the house of Israel from the North country from all the countries where I

[00:54:35] had a driven them they shall dwell in their own land he stressed to lead them a lot of places because he scatters them a lot of places and kills them a lot of places scatters mother cover I mean you know

[00:54:45] like he wouldn't have to move them around so God damn much if it just stopped doing that shit I mean that is true and and we talked about this too like he's a perfect being right like why can't he just

[00:54:57] create them correct the first time why can't he set things in motions correct the first time it seems like if you have that much power that that is claimed by God that you should be able to get

[00:55:09] it right and and I understand people will say yeah with the God one of the give us free will and this that you know that but then if you're given us free will then hands off bitch right yeah you

[00:55:19] see their hands off or you create the perfect being which is what what do you want do you want to see how your experiment turns out or do you want us to worship and fear you all the time it sounds to me

[00:55:31] based on what I've read that you want us to worship and fear you all the time so if that's the case just make us do that right it's true like it's not it I don't think you you should just be able

[00:55:42] to do that right yeah you should yeah I mean if you were God yeah my understanding of the term God anyways right here's what I find interesting he says that you're not going to be known anymore

[00:55:54] as your God led you out of Egypt and it's so funny because like thousands of years later he's still known as the God that led the Israelites out of Egypt well yeah it's one of the

[00:56:05] most popular stories from the Bible right but he's like no no you're going to be known as I put you back together in Israel and it's like well it's been a couple thousand years and you haven't

[00:56:13] got around to it yet although the Christians are like it's coming but you got to keep in mind and you know this was written by human beings right sure and at the time with these or these were

[00:56:23] being written this news was bigger than them coming out of act you've been coming out of Egypt right because it's more relevant it's right there in their face right they they can humans can't possibly foresee other humans reading the same fucking material 2003 thousand years later it's like trying

[00:56:41] to understand that you're in a historical moment as it's unfolding right I mean we understand that Trump was definitely a fucking historical moment as we're living through that we understood that Obama being president was a historical moment as we were living that we understood that

[00:56:59] 9-11 was a historical moment as we were living that but it was also matter who holds power for any length of time right so like let's say Republicans end up holding power for the next 20 years

[00:57:11] right yeah we might not read as much about Obama as we would about Trump right particularly in Texas who they do their textbooks separately from the rest of the United States and their textbooks

[00:57:25] their history textbooks in particular are so different already and I know this because I live there history it can can be found out by anybody but the your understanding of history is based on

[00:57:39] your upbringing is usually molded from a specific set of books that were allowed to be taught to you right you know that everybody is basing their idea of the world on this a lot of the times versus

[00:57:53] the actual breakdown of events in history looking back at 9-11 even that in the what 20 plus years since it happened our understanding and thinking of that event has changed it's crazy that that

[00:58:10] happened over 20 years ago but also the other day I read that John Candy died over they was 30 years ago like a day or two ago you said it was yesterday yeah it was 30 years ago 30 years since John Candy

[00:58:21] look I know we're dating ourselves by saying even saying John Candy but 30 years ago that that does not come to you to be possible that does not compute to me because I can remember

[00:58:33] I think it was like the 20 year mark or even the 15 year mark and Adam Sandler did a song tribute to him that just had me in tears was that John Candy or Chris Farley oh dude it was Chris Farley my

[00:58:48] oh wow okay nothing nothing forget I said that that was my bad yeah yeah that was another great that died too soon but no you're right okay anyway let's carry on with the Bible

[00:59:01] carry on much less interesting but it's why we're here yeah okay so my heart is broken within me wait my heart within me is broken oh sorry I just like to say difference yeah because of the

[00:59:13] prophets all my bones shake my bone shake when I don't drink enough water I'm taking from this God has bones oh I didn't they yeah you know I think this is Jeremiah talking oh yeah

[00:59:29] from my notes this is Jeremiah talking my heart within me is broken because of the prophets all my bone shake I'm like a drunken man and like a man whom wine has overcome

[00:59:40] because of the Lord okay and because of his holy words yeah this is Jeremiah talking yeah okay for the land is full of adulterers you cheaty cheaters yeah for me because of a curse the land

[00:59:54] mourns because of a curse apparently okay the I mean every time I curse the land mourns oh that reminds me like so I keep saying that I babysit this toddler all the time and like

[01:00:10] every time he started like picking up some of the naughty language that we do and so today when one of the author author authoritarian figures left yes the house parental figure

[01:00:26] no it's grandma but she said something like you know blah blah blah piss me off and as she shut the door he goes it's pissing me off what is like what and he goes it's pissing me off and I was

[01:00:40] like oh yeah and like as a writer words are just words and I don't like to apply the Voldemort you know symptom too like I don't like to lend power to words that they don't deserve

[01:00:55] but at the same time like I also don't want mom and dad to come home from work and their three-year-old is going that pisses me off well I feel just as young down this for just for a second

[01:01:08] there's there's a point when they're too young to understand where you have to kind of correct it so that they don't say it in public right but when our kids specifically got older

[01:01:17] we allowed them to cuss if they wanted to as long as they understood when it was correct and when it wasn't right and it worked out differently with both the kids it did it one

[01:01:26] test is all the time yeah one refuses to cuss at all kid does not cuss I mean kid might cuss in private as a matter of fact I overheard them once say damn it when they do have something

[01:01:38] but they were mortified when I started laughing because I heard it I was like oh my god you cussed yeah but yeah they they do not like it was just within last year yeah and yeah that was the

[01:01:49] first time I ever heard them cuss and they I'm sure that they do and private obviously but they do not want us to and we are cool man we're like whatever you know we did not

[01:01:59] break them over nursing in fact we encouraged them to let it out sometimes I mean because you don't have you don't always have to hold your anger in this is not that house this house is you know

[01:02:10] if you need a cry cry if you need to you know vent your spleen and say your feels do it you know yeah okay anyway curse the land because the land mourns or the land is mourning because of a curse

[01:02:23] yes hey yep the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up their course of life is evil and their might is not right wow I feel like that's the same I've heard before it is it is for both

[01:02:39] prophet and priest are profane who damn that's harsh words yes in my house I have found their wickedness says the Lord therefore their way shall be to them like slippery ways who is slippery slippery slope okay all right yeah in a darkness they shall be driven on

[01:03:01] and fall in them for I will bring disaster on them the year of their punishment says the Lord like year of punishment huh the year of their punishment okay I don't know if you say in that

[01:03:13] you're gonna be punished the whole year but this is definitely the year has happened sometimes you decide like somehow he said he's got a kill people and sometimes he just feels like he's got a torture

[01:03:21] people for a while right who knows whatever it is wish you watch he's got his magnifying glass that he just can't decide which one is going to be today yeah i mean it's god he's kind of a

[01:03:29] flight right and i says god have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria they prophesied by ball and caused my people Israel to air i haven't noted about that later but

[01:03:43] i'll be in our Q&A yeah two names said okay also i've seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem they committed adultery and walk in lies they also strengthen the hands of

[01:03:56] evil doers so that no one turns back from his wickedness all of them are like sawed them to me and her inhabitants like gamora wow you know i i i i hate to say something good here but at least

[01:04:14] god is distinguishing the leaders as bad and saying that there is some redemption for the people if they if they choose to go away to these other lands right right like that's part of what we've

[01:04:26] kind of talked about last chapter and he he is focusing on the leaders yeah other people and that that's a new tone that's far yet yeah i appreciate that you're right we should call that out

[01:04:40] and and say something good since we're here always to say everything bad right yeah no you're right always say really bad no they're just always is something bad that's what i meant right

[01:04:52] i mean it's not like we're looking for the bad at this point you don't even have to it's just right fucking there right okay therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets behold i will feed them with wormwood and make them drink the water of gall

[01:05:10] that's he's used that before yeah yes i'm over it for from the prophets of Jerusalem profaneness has gone out into all the lands not profaneness oh no he's kind of repeating himself here

[01:05:24] he literally just said that he's using some of the same forms upon his friends to you in the past oh my god boorie get it the sorris like what does god need at the sorris why can't god be more creative

[01:05:37] i feel like there was a little bit more creative ways to punish people earlier on in the by well true what with like fear the way to swallow people was fire he shot fire out at the you know

[01:05:47] people and then yeah he made random people talk what about the snakes yeah right that was cool there was some really cool fucking punishments back early on now he's like i'm a shake you up a bit

[01:05:59] i'm drinking some bad water and i'm like whatever die each other whatever thus says the Lord of hosts do not listen to the words of the prophet to prophecy to you

[01:06:11] they make you worthless they speak a vision of their own heart not from the mouth of the Lord they continually say to those who despise me the Lord has said you shall have peace and to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart they say

[01:06:28] new evil shall come upon you okay again we talked about this in multiple chapters before but it seemingly it seems like no one really particularly likes Jeremiah all that much yeah he's got a lot of enemies right yeah and all these other um prophets and priests are saying

[01:06:47] y'all gonna be good we're we're all gonna be okay just relax which one do you go by the guy that's like kind of like on the out with the rest of the people and being weird over

[01:06:58] there shouting a lot or do you go with people to like it's all gonna be okay god i'll take care of us i don't know if we put those in today's terms today we've got republican saying

[01:07:07] the world's not on fire relax relax it depends on how you see on how you view that though like they do talk about how the world is on fire because all of these outside evils are trying

[01:07:19] to infiltrate them well no it just depends on the day of the week either the world's not on fact there's no such thing as climate change calm your tits it's fine or they're like of

[01:07:30] course the world is on fire because those crazy liberals and their data agenda right like it just depends on what mood they're in and whether they're trying to get you to be excited for them

[01:07:42] or mad at us right yeah us being the crazy liberals with the gang agenda yeah right yeah okay but there's a disney and whatnot yeah it's so funny that they think that disney is like so

[01:07:57] liberal and that we like love disney and it's like no they kind of a lot of they get a lot of things wrong they too and like they think that like we love the NFL and stuff and we're like not so much

[01:08:12] I mean some of us do okay but it's but it's not like a necessity yeah yeah like you don't have to like some people do some people don't I would say it probably as a overall thing between all liberal

[01:08:27] men and women is probably on the not 50% side as far as people that love NFL football or whatever you know I would say it's not a majority would would you not say though that the ones that are

[01:08:42] condemning football for being a violent sport and causing massive head injuries is probably more often than not liberal than just public in yeah because that's yeah because that's compassion because that's empathy because it's health and science yeah yeah so definitely I would put that on

[01:08:59] that side yeah okay for who has stood in the council of the Lord and has perceived and heard his word who has marked his word and heard it the world a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth and fury

[01:09:14] oh not a whirlwind we had a whirlwind today and our power went out where I was babysitting that that's funny because I was I worked down in Cincinnati we live in Dayton yeah and it

[01:09:25] would it barely sprinkled down where I was I know like I told you oh no the power just went out and you were like why I was like all the rain and you're like what rain and I was like the thunder

[01:09:35] in the lightning that house was shaking it boom then you're like Jesus Christ did you move to another country or something like literally we're like what 45 minutes apart not even but yeah yeah

[01:09:46] okay anyway yeah a whirlwind has gone forth and fury that's crazy a violent whirlwind oh I wish I had a sense of not just wouldn't I wouldn't assume the any whirlwind would be kind of violent

[01:09:58] I mean okay there's there's some mild whirlwinds they're not torn in it you get those ones just kind of blow the leaves around the tumble weeds and stuff yeah oh my god have you ever seen a tumble

[01:10:08] weed no but you have told me all about it and I've seen them on the movies and stuff so they are so funny and ridiculous like I had never really seen one yeah and my sister and I went on this long distance

[01:10:20] trip and we drove through Texas and we saw them and they're just these like bumbling bumblers they're

[01:10:26] just like do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do

[01:10:28] and they're so silly looking yeah they're just I don't understand it anyway yeah world a whirlwind doesn't have to be violent sure but these ones are because they're of the lord right okay it will

[01:10:41] fall violently on the head of the wicked the anger of the lord will not turn back until he has executed and performed the thoughts of his heart oh that's heavy in the latter days you will understand

[01:10:55] it perfectly oh okay the latter days it's sweet no no no the later days the you know yeah latter L. T. T. E. R. Yeah like the days of latter you know yeah I have not sent these

[01:11:11] prophets yet they ran I have not spoken to them yeah they prophecy the fluke but if they had stood in my council and had caused my people to hear my words then they would have turned

[01:11:21] them from their evil way and from the evil of their doings is and then why don't we even refer to them as prophets if they didn't actually get any prophecies from the lord it's true right

[01:11:33] you're god this is your book why don't we just say why don't we every single time call them life prophets or liars or what do you know we have to refer to them as prophets I guess

[01:11:43] maybe it was a title they had but what about like false priests or fake leaders or bad guys you would think you would refer to them as not a politician that gets because lawyers first on

[01:11:57] heard them say that they aren't able to receive his message right I didn't know that until just now oh just saying am I a god near at hand says the lord and not a god afar off can anyone

[01:12:12] hide himself in secret places so I shall not see him says the lord I mean he couldn't find not go before early on the Bible is true is true do I not feel heaven and earth says the Lord I mean

[01:12:26] I don't know do you I haven't I thought it was literally sitting on that seat on that that a creyth they made for him and we're his footsteps also I mean just your feet on the day right

[01:12:39] your feet fillier sometimes he just sits in a regular old seat sometimes he fills the entire earth and nevons or something I don't know I haven't seen them I don't know some time you just

[01:12:47] pillar of black smoke okay look look you know what else I'm not here to body shade I don't know how big you are question is God are you happy in your own skin right you know and do you feel like

[01:13:00] you are too big I don't know like one I was a discussion we had early on because we we wondered we discussed because they say that he was created and there he created man and gods and there's

[01:13:12] an image or whatever right that would indicate to me that at some level we're going to be very similar looking to God right sure that's not to say that maybe God can't change shape he's he's a fucking

[01:13:26] god apparently right but maybe he's not you know all the time he's sitting on the seat on that I'm on the arc the crate you know and and he uses a footstool right so I don't know

[01:13:38] I don't have any idea it's to me it just feels like he is whatever he needs to be for any given chapter that we're reading kind of like the Republicans yeah um I think it's cool that

[01:13:49] vampires can turn into bats totally not related I just thought as long as we're talking about things that can change shapes yeah okay hashtag scientific facts oh yeah I have heard what the

[01:14:03] prophets have said who prophecy lies in my name saying I had dreamed I have dreamed how long will it be wait no that was not perfect no okay okay saying I had dreamed I had dreamed okay yeah

[01:14:16] he's quoting them okay that was the end of the quote okay how long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophecy lies again why are we calling liars prophets but okay indeed they are

[01:14:28] prophets of the deceit of their own heart who try to make my people forget my name by their dreams which everyone tells his neighbor as their fathers forgot the name my name for ball they didn't

[01:14:42] right that's why this why you still have problems yeah and that's why we still have it written down in the Bible multiple times whatever go on their fathers forgot my name for ball oh I see

[01:14:56] they're saying that their fathers forgot about Yahweh yeah in place of ball okay I I'm miss heard that I'm sorry yeah but here's my thing though um why they dream in and where

[01:15:09] those dreams coming from so they are prophets but their prophets of what demons or other gods well I think they're just saying that they're dreaming of they're taking their interpreting the dreams

[01:15:17] however they want to and they're spreading the message that they want to but maybe if there's like multiple dudes and they're all having similar dreams and they're all prophecy right maybe they are

[01:15:27] prophets just not of Yahweh if we're going back to the multiple god theory yeah right that's what I'm saying like maybe either demons or alternate gods yeah we're just crazy fucked up dreams because

[01:15:40] you know you ain't fucking face you food earlier it's true because they thought water was bad for you in whatever yeah it's true okay the prophet who has a dream let him tell a dream and he who has my

[01:15:52] word let him speak my word faithfully what is the chapter to the wheat says the Lord is not my word like a fucking fire says the Lord and like a hammer that breaks the fucking rock

[01:16:07] in pieces is it is his word I don't know I've never heard it is it a hammer I can't speak from first hand experience with that I would think that I would think that maybe it could be but who

[01:16:23] could know because you haven't spoken to anybody like that he's kind of a narcissist so maybe he just thinks his become across that way kind of like I like a dude who doesn't think his own fart stink

[01:16:36] they don't oh my god therefore behold I am against the prophet says the Lord who still my words everyone from his neighbor behold I'm against the prophet says the Lord who used their tongues and say he

[01:16:53] says behold I'm against those who prophecy false dreams says the Lord and tell them and cause my people to air by their lies and by their recklessness hold on hold on hold on I'm holding

[01:17:06] how do you prophecy false dreams either you had a dream or you did it a dream is not false it happened right right yeah if you have a dream and you think that it came from God

[01:17:21] especially yeah I mean if people are having dreams in prophecy and from their dreams yeah and that becomes the norm then you're just going to believe that your dreams are prophecies well yeah if I shouldn't

[01:17:32] you think that if they're very powerful dream right but I'm I'm protesting on these people's behalf yeah look I don't know if these dudes were being honest or not sounds like probably politically they

[01:17:47] the way God is describing it is they're having all these dreams in whatever and then they're like saying that their dreams are prophets from God and I'm telling you they're not right and I'm like

[01:17:58] the maybe you should clarify literally only telling Jeremiah right so look that's what I'm saying maybe you should clarify yeah maybe you should shout a little louder maybe you should tell more

[01:18:10] than fucking crazy people yeah like it's not hard to get it together right okay yeah I did not send them or command them therefore they shout not prophet this people at all says the Lord

[01:18:23] well whatever yeah so when these people or the prophet or the priest ask you saying what is the Oracle of the Lord you shout that say to them I know Oracle I will even for sake you says the Lord

[01:18:38] and ask for the prophet and the priest and the people who say the Oracle of the Lord I will even punish that man and his house it's like don't lie on me I will fuck you shit up yeah get my fucking

[01:18:52] name out your mouth or if you're Nikki Haley get my daughter's name out your voice oh Nikki right you almost had it yeah you're so cute it's like an old person saying if I throw this did I eat it no you couldn't ever eat anything old person

[01:19:17] thus every one of you shall say to his neighbor and everyone to his brother what is the Lord answered and what is the Lord spoken and the Oracle of the Lord you shall mention no more for every man's

[01:19:30] word will be his Oracle for you've perverted the words of the living God the Lord of hosts are God if you've never heard it before how can you pervert it yeah you don't you don't know what the Lord

[01:19:43] sounds like because he's not talking to you right so in and according to God himself in the last couple of chapters he's not talking to really anybody except for you know Jeremiah or Isaiah or whatever so it's impossible for them to distinguish what is correct and what's not

[01:20:02] unless they implicitly believe everything that these singular prophets in these given times are saying and that just seems an absurd leap of faith they have to make to put all of your faith for everything that you've learned throughout your entire life into one person and change everything

[01:20:22] because of that one person when not God not God right but that one person who's saying that God is saying this yeah it's just I have a problem with that I do too link and God's lack of

[01:20:34] logic on this point is startling given that it's supposed to be God right like it's almost like it's man instead of God is almost like that isn't it yeah but to an act this much

[01:20:48] retribution on these people yeah based on the fact that they didn't listen to this one fucking guy yeah or or this one other guy a generation ago or whatever right I don't care if you go back

[01:20:58] five generations and it's one guy every fucking generation you're still kind of a one guy progeneration to relay this message to make sure that you don't have to kill them later

[01:21:09] that's fucked up here's my deal if you are the god that you say that you are your deck regardless period the end otherwise you're not real and these fucking people are liars

[01:21:22] right and I'm gonna go with liars and also we don't have to go so far as to say liar they may fully believe what they're saying is true they may feel it like I mean

[01:21:34] you don't know what their spiritual experience was you're right they may fully believe that they are talking to God but even if they believe it you're still we still have to make the leap of faith

[01:21:49] to put our faith in that human being right and believe that he is the only one that God is talking to right and then this is the message that he's having you deliver right like what and that's a

[01:22:02] bullshit ask from a deity that could talk to everybody if they wanted to yeah no I totally agree totally agree and that's before you even get into what news is he delivering right like the story

[01:22:14] is so ridiculous yeah okay thus you shall say to the prophet what is the Lord answered you and what is the Lord's book in but since you say the Oracle of the Lord therefore thus says the Lord

[01:22:29] because you say this word the Oracle of the Lord and I have sent to you saying do not say the Oracle of the Lord therefore behold I even I will utterly forget you and fucking forsake you

[01:22:42] and the city that I gave you and your fathers and will cast you out of my fucking presence still and I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you and a perpetual shame which shall not be for God

[01:22:58] 10 boom the end okay so still punishing yeah like I mean that's what the entire book of Jeremiah has been about so far yeah punished punish punish punish I am gonna get you I mean we

[01:23:12] keep saying it we keep saying it we keep because every time we read one of these books it's always repetitive bullshit all the way through yeah but to put all of your faith in one other human being

[01:23:22] that is supposedly talking to God and I know we just got done talking about this but that is that's what bothers me the most about these last two books with Isaiah and Jeremiah

[01:23:31] is that I'm supposed to put everything into the idea that this one person for us thousands of years ago had all the correct ideas yeah it just it makes absolutely no sense to me right and it doesn't

[01:23:47] hold any sway or or any type of it doesn't it doesn't change any beliefs to me by hearing these words because it's it's ass-in-ine it is ass-in-ine and furthermore it honestly paints the picture

[01:24:03] of every preacher and pastor and father and you know all them preachy guys yeah today they are all false prophets well you I mean you could tell you can tell that just by based you go into one

[01:24:20] church and then another and they're gonna be saying completely different ideas and both of them are bullshit if you have read this fucking book right right so that's what I'm saying according to what I'm reading

[01:24:32] you know when you say the Lord says and he didn't fucking say that or you're twisting his words you are a liar and a false prophets are the difference and I'm not I don't want to I'm not trying

[01:24:46] to say you're exactly wrong there are some people today that are can that are saying that they are prophets of the Lord that definitely happens but generally speaking your local pastors your local

[01:24:57] priests are reading the Bible and passages from the Bible and trying to interpret it and relay those messages from the Bible to their people okay except at the end of the day they say

[01:25:11] they feel called right and so they are saying I feel called to do this which is a very magical who he who we way of saying God picked me I felt the picking and therefore what I am saying

[01:25:28] I'm saying because he wants me to say it which is like just like a really cowardly way of saying I could be a prophet but I'm not gonna quite use those words because that's a little bit going too far

[01:25:39] but isn't that kind of what they're doing it's in a little key way they are trying to limit some authority to their voice by saying that they are called to it or they are

[01:25:50] they are driven by God or things like that yeah but they aren't directly saying God said this to me okay look it's a misunderstanding it's a man that's they're definitely being shepherds and he is

[01:26:03] against the fucking shepherds right now that are lying in his name that is true that is not so I'm sorry 100% across the board every single person across the board who has graduated seminary

[01:26:16] and put themselves in charge of a flock of fucking people in a building with a cross on top of it y'all are false prophets and liars and this book says so fuck off that's how I see it wife has opinions on that note that was Jeremiah chapter 23 sure

[01:26:34] fuck was which means we'll be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 24 all right we'll see you guys then bye husband wife do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today

[01:26:52] well God made a little bit of a change of tactic and admits that you know maybe it's just the leaders of that suck and he was like y'all leaders he prophets yeah you're priests you're

[01:27:04] fucks you're you're you're gonna go down and these guys the regular people if they follow my my command and go get captured because I'm still shitty you know I'm gonna have an asshole

[01:27:17] it'll take you if they do that though then they got a chance they might their their descendants might make it through somehow someday yeah so I mean all in all I was happy as I can be in the Bible

[01:27:31] with regard to the fact that God was choosing to punish the priests and the prophets and the the leaders you know like that that's a good it's a good tactic mm-hmm wasn't perfect but it

[01:27:43] was better right so I'm gonna give it that that's all I'm given it okay and that was Jeremiah chapter 23 which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 24 how right let's do this okay okay

[01:28:06] all right we are getting into Jeremiah chapter 24 okay and I want to prep this this by saying I don't give a big you don't give a big huh okay just hang tight and you'll see okay you won't

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[01:30:54] the Lord showed me and there were two baskets of figs set before the temple of the Lord okay after nebicadness or king of Babylon had carried away captive jaconia check in I yeah yeah um the son of Joaquim king of Judah and the princes of Judah with the

[01:31:17] craftsmen and the smiths from Jerusalem and had brought them to Babylon okay so this is after they carried them off mm-hmm okay and then God's like look there's two baskets of figs and look at those figs sitting there yeah yeah one basket had very good figs okay

[01:31:36] like the figs that are first right mm-hmm did you know that figs are made of wasps I really um there's a particular type of fig yes that made of wasps like the body of a wasp like

[01:31:51] the the Pauline grows around it and that's how it becomes a wasp no shit yeah wait the Paul okay yeah I'm I'm intrigued do I this I don't I don't know that I 100% believe this but like

[01:32:04] I'm curious about it I promise you I promise it's true I did research it first I thought it was all figs but obviously there are figs that grow in some places where wasps are not in existence okay

[01:32:18] so it's not all figs it's just the majority of like regular figs and apparently some dates also it's just awesome so very important to them huh yeah well it's not that like it's a fruit that

[01:32:34] has a wasp in it is that a wasp dies on a particular type of flowering plant yeah and then the and then figs happen and then figs happen interesting so I often wondered what the purpose

[01:32:47] of a wasp was like they're just mean little stingy bastards you know like what the fuck is your purpose you know that's but that's what figs that's my fig no so crunchy just kidding just kidding

[01:33:02] fignoons they're soft they have little crunchy bits in them the cookies are obviously soft yes but the fig noot and inards have little crunchy bits I always thought of them as a soft treat so

[01:33:14] I never I never thought of them as a crunchy treat no they're not crunchy but they have crunchy bits in them okay all right and that's that's like the wasp bit I don't I don't know if that's the type of

[01:33:24] figs that are used but yeah it is true you can check me on it and you will find that I am not pulling this out of my ass okay okay yeah sometimes sometimes you eat a wasp and you didn't know it

[01:33:37] interesting yep okay and the other basket so one was you know delicious okay and the other basket had very bad figs bad fig which could not be eaten they were so bad okay I wouldn't eat any type

[01:33:52] of bad no matter yeah we've got like degrees of bad and I'm not eating one that's even slightly right turning you know but we got good we got bad figs yep edible non-adaball no gray area

[01:34:05] figs but good and bad yes okay yes evil and perfect yes then the Lord said to me because I guess I'm Jeremiah oh okay all right yeah what do you see Jeremiah and I said figs bitch the good figs

[01:34:21] very good and the bad very bad which cannot be eaten they are so bad okay like you just described like you just yeah again the word of the Lord came to me saying the says the Lord the God of Israel

[01:34:35] like these figs so will I acknowledge those who are carried away from Judah whom I have sent out of this place for their own good into the land of the chaldeans so I sent away the good ones

[01:34:48] he sent away the good ones you would have thought that I sent away the bad ones what Jeremiah still there well he's there to help but I I thought he said that he had sent away like walking and

[01:35:00] in the sun and stuff like that which seems to be so so count those don't count okay all right I'm just telling you okay for I will set my eyes on them for good and I will bring them back

[01:35:12] to this land okay those are the good figs yeah I will build them and not pull them down and I will plant them and not pluck them up then I will give them a heart to know me that I am

[01:35:25] the Lord well that's good he's gonna soften their hearts and art in their hearts could you could you instead of just giving them a heart to know you could you like also put it in their mind

[01:35:37] and maybe in their ear could you mean they're you know something walk the earth and say some words yeah and not just do magic tricks that may or may not be God we don't know right right sometimes

[01:35:49] birds fall out of the sky and it's weird it's the you know the fact that even throughout the Bible that God does these things so not evident right is why the same God works in mysterious ways

[01:36:04] is such a common phrase because they're literally is no accounting for how God actually works because it doesn't happen right and and we attribute God to things that shouldn't have him attributed to them right either something weird or something unexplainable or something that

[01:36:24] probably never happened in the first fucking place right like like okay so you know in super humid areas that um little teeny tiny pearls of of frog eggs they will get picked up by the humidity

[01:36:41] yeah and sucked up you know via the water cycle yeah into the clouds and um they'll grow a little bit up there in the clouds the ones are survive and then it rains frogs right and then we're

[01:36:52] all like oh shit it's raining frogs it's the curse upon the land it's you know God hates us because he's making frogs rain down and hells could it be and it's like yeah science weird weird

[01:37:06] yeah every weird science that is like not the norm right but science nonetheless you know sorry sometimes critters have weird organs you know sometimes that happens and also God working in mysterious ways doesn't usually involve medical scientists um fixing a problem right I noticed

[01:37:26] they contributed to those things yeah which I'm like the know that was also science there yes so yeah and they shall be my people those good figs and I will be there God for they shall return

[01:37:39] to me with their whole heart and as the bad figs which cannot be eaten they are so bad surely thus says the Lord so will I give up Zedikaya the king of Judah his princes the

[01:37:54] residue of Jerusalem who remain in this land and those who dwell in the land of Egypt I will deliver them to trouble right here in Rivers City into all the kingdoms of the earth

[01:38:07] for their harm to be a reproach and a byword a taunt and a curse in all places where I shall drive them I'm gonna make them go out into the world and fuck shit up. Shout it okay. And I will send the

[01:38:22] sword the famine and the pestilence probably rain in frogs too while I'm at it among them till they are consumed from the land that I gave to them and their fathers the end okay

[01:38:36] so he's gonna be nice to people he likes and not nice to the people he doesn't like and that's why I don't give a fig. Right yeah now you understand why is that? because literally the name of this chapter was the lesson from the good and bad figs

[01:38:52] that a lesson did you learn something from it? I know no I didn't really feel exactly like a lesson just like they make similes that are like so simple. Their lessons revolve heavily around worshipping God and and fearing God and praising God and knowing God and not worshipping

[01:39:13] other gods like these are the things that the lessons revolve around. And I'm like I can't even I can't even get to that point to where I feel like I should be taking this lesson because

[01:39:26] I can't get to the point where I can even remotely believe that you are real because this is this is the things that you are doing as a God in this book are so far removed from normal behavior for

[01:39:44] a human let alone a god knows everything. As far as common human decency, common decency, you know I'm sorry I'm throwing human into the next but I mean yeah human decency common human decency. I just can't accept him as something that we should be your worship or

[01:40:06] respect even if he was real. So I was thinking about how I just know called the lesson quote unquote so simple and simplistic and then I was thinking about how but there are people today that are

[01:40:24] like you can't do analogies with them because they just don't get it and they argue in circles and they can't get over my head. Yes okay, drags yes just like that how they are kind of simple

[01:40:38] and so I was thinking about that and then I was thinking how I sound so like arrogant like I think I'm so fucking smart but I just think it should be noted here and now I do not think that just because

[01:40:54] a majority of people are simple that I'm smart like I know I'm not smart. If I was in conversation with scientists like Neil the Grass Tyson for example, oh it'd be very tempting. I could not

[01:41:07] hold my own in that conversation so just because I call somebody simple like I don't want anybody walking around thinking that I am arrogant that I think I am intellectual. I know where I stand

[01:41:21] but having said that these lessons are so fucking simple, right? You know like can there be a place where these are simple and I'm not an arrogant prick who thinks highly of myself? We can the two

[01:41:36] mutually exist. Right. I don't know. Yeah I don't know either. All right I think we've rambled on enough about this short as chapter here. Sure. That was Jeremiah chapter 24. Sure, spoke was which means that we'll be back tomorrow for Jeremiah chapter 25. All right we'll see you guys then.

[01:41:55] Bye! wife do you know what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today? Well we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 24. We did. And in that chapter we discussed good and bad things. We did. Yeah there's apparently good ones and bad ones. The bad ones apparently are

[01:42:21] leaders. The good ones are the people who are not leaders who decided to let God enslave them for um, I'm linear or not I'm sorry 100 years or 200 years or however long he's going to keep them

[01:42:33] there not a millennia. I'm sorry. It turns out it's 70 but we're not. So yeah so 70 years. Yeah so I mean the rest of their life they're going to be enslaved their kids will be able to be free

[01:42:43] maybe. Maybe we'll see but not them so that good bad either way you're fucked. Pretty much. Yeah. How's your fig? Figtastic. Oh my god. All right that was Jeremiah chapter 24. It shows fuck was which means that today we're getting in too. Jeremiah chapter 25. All right let's do this.

[01:43:05] Okay so we are getting into Jeremiah chapter 25. Okay before we do that I need to read you a little note. All right. Yeah. Chapter 25 is the final chapter in the first section of

[01:43:29] the book of Jeremiah. Oh. I didn't know that it was broken into sections. Or did I we always find out about these breakups in the middle like the break how they break down the books? Yeah. Once we get

[01:43:39] into the book because at some point you'll come across a note that's like hey by the way. By the way yeah this is this is a section break now. Okay and I'm like cool. So well that this convenience

[01:43:51] though we're ending this section on the end of a week and you know it's a round five. It's a nice five but not really well. Well it's a full five. Yeah so it's all good. This section that we just

[01:44:03] read this first section the first 25 chapters deals with the earliest and main core of Jeremiah's message. Okay okay yeah which has been a repetition of he common. Yeah I mean get you talk about repetition

[01:44:19] it's it's repetitive and it repeats itself again and then it repeats itself again and then it repeats itself again. Yes and then there's figs. And then there's figs. Right. So let's get into this.

[01:44:32] Okay. Yeah. The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Wackeem, the son of Josiah King of Judah which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon

[01:44:48] okay. Which Jeremiah the prophet spoke to all the people of Judah into the inhabitants of Jerusalem saying Okay. That's all in intro of these are his words is ready. I'm ready yeah okay.

[01:45:03] From the 13th year of Josiah the son of Amman King of Judah, even to this day, this is the 23rd year in which the word of the Lord has come to me and I've spoken to you rising early

[01:45:17] and speaking but you have not listened. They don't like you Jeremiah. No they don't. Yeah they don't you're a nice heir. They kind of you know wish you'd just sort of been going right and keep your

[01:45:30] sandwich board to yourself. Right. And the Lord he's still talking now and the Lord has sent to you all his servants the prophets rising early and sending them but you have not listened. Hold on,

[01:45:43] all his servants, all his prophets, and then one that I'm aware of that is spreading the correct message is Jeremiah. And Isaiah before him and there's other ones that we haven't read yet. Okay but

[01:45:54] they're indifferent like but in any generation he's talking to these people in this generation where these people are hearing the words of quote unquote God from a prophet, there are multiple false

[01:46:03] prophets and then there's fucking Jeremiah. Right but what we don't know yet because we're not there yet is that there's Jeremiah and a bunch of other prophets that are all spreading the same message

[01:46:18] and a bunch of false prophets. Okay so you still wouldn't know which group of prophets to trust but there are multiple voices saying the same thing with Jeremiah's name. Yes. He just happens to be

[01:46:28] the ringleader. No he happens to be the one in this chapter or in this book. I got you. Okay yeah you know how there's like I think two more chapters left of the major quote unquote prophets

[01:46:44] and then we get into those 12 minor prophets. Sure. Those are all prophets too. In the same time. Yeah a lot of them yes. Okay. All right like I know I think Amis is one and I think

[01:46:59] there's another couple that I can't remember their names at the moment. Got it but yeah they're all overlapping. I feel like it would do a lot more a lot better service to the message they're trying

[01:47:09] to get across if they reference each other in their stories. Right. Yeah that would be really cool. Yeah but they don't. Like when you're reading books that are standalone books but they exist

[01:47:22] in the same universe so they like reference characters from other and it's just like this one time you see their name and that's it and it's like fan service we need some fan service in the

[01:47:35] It would lend some credibility to the messages that they're trying to you know push forward because if there's other people saying the same message and they're not listening to a multitude of prophets who are saying the message that's different than not listening to one crazy person

[01:47:51] who went off about the same thing and given them trouble because everyone thinks he's fucking crazy. Exactly yeah I'm just saying you know I totally agree with you. So. Holy, we agree with you but yeah there are

[01:48:00] some other prophets we just we're not there yet. Okay but they are existing we just they haven't been mentioned. Sure. Except in the notes that I've been taking got it that reference these other guys. Okay.

[01:48:13] And I'm like oh those are happening at the same time. Very confusing. Yeah it's almost as confusing is like how all the kings broke down when we were talking you know like one week. Second king is

[01:48:24] yeah like when we did the kings is and then we did the chronicles is and those were like all happening at the same time and then like when we were doing Samuel was it or yeah Samuel and

[01:48:40] there was all of the songs and Proverbs that are supposed to be at the same time as him or something like that was it. Even right. It was Solomon. Yeah. They both start with S so I get

[01:48:51] them from you but no you're right it was Solomon. Right. So it's just it's very confusing and I hate having to be told from outside sources oh those are happening at the same time.

[01:49:03] Right. Not consecutively. Well it's because this isn't like a really easy to read book it's not this is a conglomeration of a bunch of shit just thrown into a pile. Right. And it's just it's very

[01:49:16] confusing for me. Right. I have a difficult time as it is and this is making it even worse. Right. No I got you. So he's saying Jeremiah saying I've spoken to you rising early and speaking

[01:49:28] but you have not listened and the Lord has sent to you all his servants the prophets rising early and sending them but you have not listened nor inclined your ear to hear. They said repent now everyone

[01:49:43] of his evil way and his evil doings and dwell in the land that the Lord has given to you and your fathers forever and ever do not go after other gods to serve them and worship them

[01:49:54] and do not provoke me to anger with the works of your hands and I will not harm you. Yet you have not listened to me says the Lord per Jeremiah. Sure. And we're just repeating the same

[01:50:06] fucking message that's been all through Jeremiah so far. Yes. That you might provoke me to anger with the works of your hands to your own hurt. I'm assuming that's referring to like working on

[01:50:18] the Sabbath and were like worshiping other gods with things that you're doing. Is it? Yeah. Maybe what we're getting at one of the things. He's saying you're you're not listening to me,

[01:50:27] you're doing bad things. Sure. And the bad things are all the things that we've listed up until now. Got it. So yeah, especially with the Christmas trees. They're for us as the Lord of hosts because you have not heard my words. Behold, I will send and

[01:50:46] take all the families of the North says the Lord and never could nether the King of Babylon, my servant and we'll bring them against this land, against its inhabitants and against these nations all around and we'll utterly destroy them and make them an astonishment by hissing

[01:51:05] and perpetual desolations. Oh, we should have go back in history and interview NeverCannasor and ask him how he felt about being God's servant. Right. Yeah. Did you know? Yeah. Grow. By the by. Moreover, I will take from them the voice of Murth and the voice of

[01:51:25] Gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride. The sound of the millstones and the light of the lamp. He's going to fuck him up. He's going to fuck him up and it's going to be

[01:51:38] the desolation will be so solid that it'll be silent and dark in those lands. You won't hear a single damn thing. He said it'll just be death in the valley. Right. And this whole land shall be

[01:51:52] a desolation and an astonishment and these nations shall serve the King of Babylon 70 years. 70 years, okay. All right. Then it will come to pass when 70 years are completed that I will punish the King

[01:52:07] of Babylon and that nation. The land of Chaldeans for their iniquities says the Lord. You realize that he's talking about punishing the King of Babylon that has not even probably been born yet. Right. Fucking hilarious. Right. Okay. God's response before all the universe, all the world,

[01:52:28] all the people, all the things. Right. And he's using Nebuchadnezzar as a tool. Right. Because he's God. He can use this guy as a tool and he's taking him and he's killing his people and enslaving

[01:52:42] them for 70 years. Right. Well, man, they didn't listen. I'm going to enslave them. I'm bringing them over here to Babylon. And then you know what? I'm going to kill that fucking King 70 years now.

[01:52:50] Who hasn't even born yet? I could put the word of God in them and make him like a good person. But you know what I'm not going to do? I'm just, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to kill them.

[01:53:00] Yeah. You put the word of God in Jeremiah in the womb before the womb. You let this King of Babylon just fucking die because you're an asshole. Right. That's the only fucking answer that can possibly be correct because you have according to the words that we have read.

[01:53:21] You have the ability to manipulate people to make them do. And feel and say the things that you want them to say. But no, you'd rather let him not do the things you want to do and then kill him.

[01:53:33] And then be like, what? Free will. It's bullshit. Yeah. You're, it can't be free will. If you're demeaning that this thing is going to happen 70 years from now to somebody who doesn't even exist yet.

[01:53:43] Right. That's not free will. That's bullshittery. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. All right. So says the Lord and I will make it a perpetual desolation. So I will bring on that land all my words,

[01:53:58] which I have pronounced against it. All that is written in this book, which Jeremiah has prophesied concerning all the nations. Okay. What book is that? I don't, the one he's writing that this book. This book. Jeremiah's book. The Jeremiah chapter. Jeremiah Jeremiah Gospels. Right. Okay.

[01:54:17] I don't know. Okay. And then this is in parentheses. Ready parentheses boys. Okay. For many nations and great king shall be served by them also. And I will repay them according to their deeds

[01:54:27] and according to the works of their own hands. Okay. And parentheses. Sure. Yeah. I don't know why that was in parentheses. But yeah. All right. New section. Ready? Yep. For us says the Lord

[01:54:38] God of Israel to me, Jeremiah. Yeah. Take this wine cup of fury from my hand and cause all the nations to whom I send you to drink it. He's sending his poison their way. His his wrath. Okay. He's

[01:54:53] calling his wrath a cup of fury. Got it. Okay. Yeah. And they will drink and stagger and go mad because of the sword that I will send among them. So then I Jeremiah took the cup from the Lord's hand

[01:55:06] and made all the nations drink to whom the Lord had sent me. Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and its princes to make them a desolation and astonishment, a hissing and a curse as it is

[01:55:21] this day. Pharaoh were going down a bulleted list. Okay. Yeah. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to sort this out in my head a little bit. He's basically saying God has charged me to deliver the

[01:55:33] message to all of these nations that he's coming to fuck their shit up. Right. But I can't quite determine whether this is because if feels like we were talking about pre-babel onion exile, right?

[01:55:47] And now are we talking post-babel onion exile or is this still pre-babel onion where he's sending the cup of fury to... So many years later. Well, I was going to say to him, fury eight people to attack.

[01:55:58] Jerusalem. Okay. And I don't know for sure. I'm just trying to sort about here a little bit. Okay. Like it almost sounds like it could be interpreted. Maybe if I'm, again,

[01:56:09] I don't know that I'm hearing this correctly or you know but maybe it sounds like Jeremiah is like actually instigating people to attack Jerusalem. I'm not sure. Give me just a sack.

[01:56:26] I mean, we don't have to figure it out today necessarily. We could dig into that for our Q&A and figure that out then too. It doesn't have to be something that we... I think he's talking,

[01:56:35] if I read my notes correctly, yeah. I think he's talking about these are all the nations that I'm coming to get when the 70 years are up. Okay. And because the cup of wrath is something that

[01:56:50] he has used before, like I don't know if you recall, it was in Psalms. It was used, I think. Okay. And then also later in the New Testament, Jesus says, take this cup from my hands or something.

[01:57:03] And he's like, I don't want to be judged. I don't want to die on the cross. This sucks. God take this cup from my lips. God it. And so he uses this cup thing. It just means judgment and wrath.

[01:57:18] Got it. Okay. Okay. That's what I picked up from my notes. That's not me. Sure. Sure. Sure. I'm sure. So I... I was just having a hard time following exactly what we were talking about there.

[01:57:28] So I was just trying to ask some questions to make sure. I might want you to dig into that a little bit for the Q&A. I'm going to lean on my notes. Currently, I could be wrong and we will get into this

[01:57:41] more when we get to work Q&A on Saturday. Sure. But from what I understand, Jeremiah is proficing, you are going to drink this cup all of these nations that the fuck with us and bad shit's going

[01:57:56] to happen. And this is coming down the pike and y'all look out. And yeah, at the same time that he's saying this, that is going to incite those other nations to wrath and to come and be like excuse you,

[01:58:13] like God's going to fuck our shit up on them. So hey, why don't I just kill you? So I'm not saying that you're wrong. But I think the intent here is that he's giving a warning to these other nations

[01:58:29] of what's coming because when I was reading the notes, they were saying that the other nations must have been astonished to have been listed in these prophecies which means that he's saying them

[01:58:45] before the time. You know what I mean? Got it. Okay. So I don't know. Again, I don't find that as astonishing as they're trying to make that out to be because we've talked about how things move slower. We

[01:58:56] could see people coming and wanting to attack us and political things happening. It's not hard to see that stuff. Sure. But I am going to read down a list now of all the places that he's

[01:59:10] going to getcha. All right. And this is in the Bible. This is in the Bible. Okay. So all the inmate the nations drink to whom the Lord had sent me. Okay? So first one is Jerusalem and the

[01:59:24] cities of Judah. It's kings and its princes to make them a desolation and astonishment, a hissing and a curse as it is this day. Okay. So that's the first one on the list. Which is why

[01:59:33] it made me think this is pre-bevelone in Excel. Yes. Right. That's why I was confused a little bit. This is before the 70 years have started. So it's during the time when Nebuchadnezzar has come

[01:59:45] in more than once, but the 70 years of slavehood hasn't started yet. Okay. It's about to come. You know for 25 chapters it's been about to come. Sure. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Next one on the list.

[02:00:00] Pharaoh, King of Egypt, his servants, his princes and all his people. All the mixed multitude, all the kings of the land of us, all the kings of the land of the Philistines, namely Ash

[02:00:13] Klaun, Gaza, Eekron and the Remnant of Ash Dodd. Eidam, Moab and the people of Amman. All the kings of tier, all the kings of Sinan and the kings of the coastlands which are across the sea.

[02:00:29] Doddon, Temma, Buzz and all who are in the farthest corners. All the kings of Arabia and all the kings of the mixed multitude who dwell in the desert. All the kings of Zimri,

[02:00:42] all the kings of Elim and all the kings of the Mids. All the kings of the north, far in near, one with another. And all the kingdoms of the world which are on the face of the earth.

[02:00:54] Okay. Come on now. That's that symbol shit. Like you're listening off localized groups of people in New Orleans, and then you toss in all the kings of the world. And plus everybody else. But it just encased there's people I missed because I haven't traveled there yet. Right. Yeah.

[02:01:12] So we will get into all of those different nations on Saturday because there is more information about them. But one of the notes is that these groups have been identified as various north, Arabian tribes and comprised kingdoms that made up virtually the entire world of the Old Testament.

[02:01:34] No, no, no. Right. Right. The entire world of the Old Testament is the rest of that sense. Yeah. So I won't go into what all those nations are. We will read about those in our Q&A though.

[02:01:45] Okay. I keep saying on Saturday, which is tomorrow. Yeah. So just keep this in the back of your head. This is going to be probably the most interesting of the notes. Okay. I think. Yeah. Okay.

[02:01:58] Next comes also the king of sheshack shall drink after them. She's shacked. Look. She sells. She sees shells down by the sea. Yes. And I am going to go ahead and clarify that

[02:02:13] briefly. But again, I'll talk more about who that is tomorrow. Okay. She shacked as a code name for the Babylonians. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And just keep that in the back of your head for tomorrow. Sure.

[02:02:26] Okay. Okay. So we're talking again about the Babylonians or but in code now. Yeah. Okay. Because what we need is more vagueness than the Bible. It's a Hebrew code that they use. Okay. Like I said,

[02:02:40] I'm not going to get into all of that. But yes. Okay. Yeah. For reasons. Sure. Sure. So the king of sheshack shall drink after them. Therefore, you shall say to them, thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel,

[02:02:55] drink, be drunk and vomit. Fall and rise no more because of the sword which I will send among you. And actually originally it didn't save vomit. I forget what else. It was some other word for

[02:03:11] like hacking it up in puke. But it was like a more gross word. Retch. Not Retch. Say some more. Oh, I don't have any more that that's yeah. Okay. I wasn't prepared to come up with you know,

[02:03:26] I will use it. Retch. And so I thought you were going to name some more words. No. I just like, first one came to my head. That's all. It's not that one. But it's it's like a hack it up.

[02:03:35] Spew. Spew. Spew. That's the one. Okay. That's. Spew. Got it. And so there was like this note that said, ew. Why did I have to say spew instead of vomit? Like in the now I'm reading

[02:03:47] our version and it's vomit. Got it. So they cleaned it up. Okay. They cleaned it up. But originally it was spew. I think vomit sounds worse than spew. But but vomit is more of a medical turn.

[02:04:00] Kind of thing. Okay. Where a spew is like, you know, like it just went everywhere. He's spewed. Right. But I like the word spew because you can use it in other ways. Like, you know,

[02:04:11] he's spewing all kinds of bullshit. You know, like, you know, you, it's very, it's a more versatile word. Right. Yeah. But I mean, then there's always word vomit. So. Right. But I feel like spew

[02:04:21] is a little bit more versatile than that vomit. And the reason is because spew is a little bit more gross. Yeah. It's a little bit more. And only on our podcast we talked about the nuances

[02:04:30] and usability of words for the difference between different types of vomiting. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. So, and it shall be if they refuse to take the cup from your hand to drink,

[02:04:41] then you shall say to them, thus says the Lord of hosts, you shall certainly fucking drink. For behold, I begin to bring calamity on the city, which is called by my name. It should you be

[02:04:53] utterly unpunished. You shall not be unpunished, but I will call for a sword on all the inhabitants of the earth says the Lord of hosts. Hold on. So you're going to drink my goddamn cup.

[02:05:06] And if you don't, I'm going to kill you. And the cup, what's the cup going to do? It's going to kill you. Right. What the fuck? No, no, if you drink from the cup, it doesn't kill you. It makes

[02:05:16] you cook coupines. Okay. It makes you spew and be crazy with fury or whatever. Right, which will probably get your ass killed. Right. So either way, you're probably going to one way you're going to die at the hands of your other people that you're fighting. The other

[02:05:33] way God's going to maybe smite you, but he doesn't really do smiting as much as he used to. So who does? And here's another thing. Like, where are we talking about whether they're going to physically

[02:05:43] drink from the cup or not? When there's not a physical cup, this is all allegory. This is all parable. Right. It's all the symbolism. As you were saying that I was like literally imagining

[02:05:53] Jeremiah going to all these kingdoms with a fucking cup of wine to have them drink it. You've got drink it. The fury wine, you know. Drink the fury wine. And like that's that's not how that

[02:06:04] went. No idea, but that's like what they're saying. Right. You know, like literally same. And then he's like, you're going to drink it. And that's like put our things in. They take these these

[02:06:14] metaphors. They take them way too far. Yeah. Like they make a cell like it's an actual thing that's happening instead of saying this is a metaphor by the by right. This is a vision. This is a,

[02:06:26] uh, uh, you know, example. Right. You will. Yeah. Therefore prophecy against them, all these words and say to them, the Lord will roar from on high and utter his voice from his holy habitation. He will

[02:06:41] roar, mightily against his fold. He will give a shout. Shout, let it all out. These are the things we can do without. Come on. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. As those who tread the grapes against all the

[02:06:58] inhabitants of the earth want to tread grapes. Like have you ever seen, um, what is it? Okay. Kiana Reeves was in it and it was a walk in the clouds. That's what it was. And he goes to like

[02:07:15] the, I think he's an Italy or something like he's just got out of the army maybe or something. I'm not quite sure. But anyway, yeah. He's with this family. And I forget how he ends up there.

[02:07:26] I think he's just like a vagabond or something. But he ends up falling in love with the girl or she brings him home to pretend that that he's or has, I forget how it works. But anyway,

[02:07:39] there's this whole scene where they're pushing the grapes. They're treading in the grapes. Yeah. So romantic. Yeah. It's a really great movie. Right. I highly recommend it if you love you some

[02:07:52] stupid romance. A noise will come to the ends of the earth for the Lord has a controversy with the nations. He will plead his case with all flesh. He will give those who are wicked to the sword.

[02:08:07] Says the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts. Behold, disaster shall go forth from nation to nation and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the farthest parts of the earth. Is that whirlwind again?

[02:08:23] There's those tumbleweeds again. And at that day, the slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. Okay. There are no little circle of the earth anyway in the Arabia's

[02:08:39] because they don't even have them like he keeps talking about swords. You talk about like the native Americans. They didn't have fucking swords. Right. It spears. I mean there's blades on those things I guess, but like they didn't have swords. Right. So you're wrong. It doesn't apply worldwide.

[02:08:55] Right. You're wrong. Yeah. There's even culture still today that don't have, you know, the technology to make swords. Right. So you're wrong. This is all bullshit. Yeah. They shall not be lamented or gathered or buried. Although, of course, they're pees. He's being on that not bearing people.

[02:09:12] They will scatter in them and you know because it's the ultimate. Yeah. No, no, I got it. So I understand why. I just it's been brought up so many times lately that I'm like, okay, I get it. That tells you how important

[02:09:25] it was to go. Right. Yeah. They shall become refuse on the ground. So they trash. Right. Whale, shepherds and cry. So the shepherds are the leaders. He's told them the leaders of the people.

[02:09:37] Right. Yeah. The priests and all that. Yeah. The the leadership people that aren't the kings. Right. Roll about in the ashes. You leaders of the flock, the leader of the flock. For the days of your slaughter and your dispersions are fulfilled. You shall fall like a precious

[02:09:57] vessel. I mean, if it falls, is it precious? I don't know why he would be calling them precious vessels because they were doing false prophecies. They were doing false messages, right? They wouldn't be precious. They'd be worthless. Right. That would be my interpretation of how God should

[02:10:20] in canon with the way God's talking about them. That's the way he should be thinking about them. If he is speaking about them this way but to call them precious is little and again, you know,

[02:10:31] we've talked about how things get lost in translations. So who knows? What that's true. Who knows? Whatever. That is true. And the shepherds will have no way to flee. Nor the leaders of the flock to escape a voice of the cry of the shepherds and a wailing

[02:10:49] of the leaders to the flock will be heard for the Lord has plundered their pasture and the peaceful dwellings are cut down because of the fierce anger of the Lord. He has left his lair like the lion. What is the lionly but lair like?

[02:11:08] Roaring. Oh, oh. And angry. He won't getcha. Got it. Yeah. Okay. He has left his hair. His hair. His lair like the lion for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the capital O oppressor. Okay. And because of his fierce anger,

[02:11:31] the end. So they're referring to God as an oppressor. God is referring to himself. So yeah. Okay. Okay. You're referring to himself. Yes. And I'm a press that. That is wow. Right. I don't know what to take. I don't know how to take that. Right. Like is he

[02:11:48] is he doing himself examination here? Is he, uh, you are just saying it like it is now, Hauser. Right. You're like I'm a fothor on the bush here. I am this awful thing. Yeah.

[02:11:58] And I'm just going to say it out loud here in my own words. Yeah. Through Jeremiah. But you know, still my own words. Yeah. Not just an oppressor. A capital O oppressor. Right. Yeah. Like he is

[02:12:10] uh, Yahweh. He is uh, the Lord of Host and he is capital O oppressor. Yeah. So he's the great I am that oppressor. Yeah. Yeah. I love the things, the things they, the things that they capitalize

[02:12:26] in the, in the Bible are interesting. It would be interesting just to go through and list all the thing all the ways and all the names that they have called God through capitalization just to see

[02:12:37] what all names have actually applied to God at some level. Right. Right. Because there's been so many and I would, I would just like a list of all the capital God names that that have been referred to

[02:12:50] him in some sensor fashion. I'm sure that list exists. I might look it up because I'm curious. I'm curious. But I hope oppressor is on that list. I do too. Yeah. If not we'll have to like put

[02:13:01] an correction or something you know. Yeah. I don't know. He could easily call himself an oppressor. I would like to speak to the manager please. Let me see your oppressor. Right. Yeah.

[02:13:13] So is that all we got for today? That's all we got for today. Awesome. Well, that ends another week of our Bible study in bullshit and that was Jeremiah chapter 25. Sure. His book was. And that

[02:13:27] means that tomorrow is Saturday and we'll be back with our Q&A Saturday. And then this Sunday, I believe we're doing the sacrilege, blue, a club. And after that, I will get the weekly wrap up

[02:13:41] together and we will be back on Monday with Jeremiah chapter 26. All right. We'll see you then. Bye. wife. Do you know what today is? Well it is Saturday about mid days. So we haven't

[02:13:59] been getting this out early, but that means we're doing Q&A Saturday. And it's on a Saturday because it's Saturday. That's right. And what are we Q&A today? We are Q&A Jeremiah chapter 21 through

[02:14:16] 25 and then we are A and them. I'm going to A them right in the A hole. All right. Well let's go do this. Okay, dokey. Okay, here we are getting into our Q&A. Okay. For Jeremiah chapter 21 through 25 and before

[02:14:46] we jump in here, I do want to reiterate that the book of Jeremiah is not arranged chronologically. And we kind of ran into that when they jumped forward 20 years. Well yeah, we start out jumping

[02:15:01] forward 20 years, but then later on in one of the other chapters you were like wait. It has before or after and there's not a lot of clarity on what goes where. I'll go ahead and this bit is a

[02:15:13] fucking mess. Got it. It kind of feels that way. Yeah. They stapled it together in the wrong order. They did. Yeah. So that's fun. That made it really cool. Is that what we call it fun?

[02:15:28] No, that's just the happy adjective that I'm using today. Got it because I was thinking more like shit show, you know, the long-gosed lines. So, you know, I can only come up with one of the things. So, right. Right. Shit show. Yeah. Goatscrew. Goatscrew. There you go.

[02:15:44] Really great screw. And that's more time period appropriate actually. There you go. Yeah. Lots of go-herters and stuff. Yeah. It's a goat screw. The whole Bible, but we're in a real good section of goat screwery. Yeah. Okay. Hank. Okay. So as you stated, Jeremiah chapter 21,

[02:16:02] fastful words about 20 years to the time when Babylonian armies are in Judah and Jerusalem is besieged. Got it. Okay. Yep. And then we noted at the time that several events had led up to this

[02:16:16] point. It wasn't just like overnight that that happened. This was like the third time that the King of Babylonia, what's his name? Nebuchadnezzar. The right. Came in and did some stuff. Yeah.

[02:16:29] And he had taken the best and brightest. Like the Smiths him whatnot and just left the drags of society and put Zedakaya in charge as a puppet king. Yep. So that's all shit that's happening.

[02:16:45] They're trying to make alliances with Egypt. They're putting their faith in Egypt coming to help them. It's still a God which God doesn't like that. God always hates that. Yeah. Yeah. Don't make alliances for God's takes. So that's the thing that's happening. Okay. Yeah. So in chapter 21,

[02:17:06] it starts out with a messenger from King Zedakaya to Jeremiah. Okay. And this message was given late in the reign of Judas last king Zedakaya. Right. And Jerusalem was under its last great siege,

[02:17:20] which resulted in its final fall in destruction in 587 BCE. Got it. Okay. Yeah. So that's where we are. Okay. And then verse one of this chapter says, The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord

[02:17:33] when King Zedakaya sent him sent to him, pusher the son of Melchaya. And then we remember that this was not the same but sure that smack him upside the head and probably rashed him a good.

[02:17:47] This was the word of good pusher and not the bad. Right. Right. And he did not put him in the stocks. Right. He was just like, you know, what up? Could we maybe get some God up in here to help us?

[02:18:03] How do you think that might go? That is thing that could happen. Yeah. And then verse two, the second part of verse two says, perhaps the Lord will deal with us according to all

[02:18:13] as wonderful works that the king may go away from us. That would be awesome. Yeah. Right. Zedakaya had postponed compliance with the warnings and invitations of quote unquote God's love until the last possible second. But he was now more eager for immunity from the consequence of

[02:18:33] sin than to repent and turn to God. Okay. So he's like, I need an out here. I need a note and it can't involve me repenting. Got it. I just need a miracle. Right quick. I just need you to find

[02:18:50] so many thousands of votes. See again, the things that we come across lend me to believe that they didn't really strongly believe in these gods. Right. This was more of a touching go-type situation

[02:19:00] where they're like, it was a Hail Mary. Yeah. It was a Hail Mary. Babylon is falling or no, Babylon is not falling. We are falling. Babylon is Christmas. We are the United States. So

[02:19:11] Jerusalem. Jerusalem is falling. Yeah. And so he is telling the governor of Georgia, I just need you to find so many thousands of votes. I can't be expected to actually win on the votes. I need you

[02:19:26] to find me some votes. Yeah. I'm not talking about Trump. No, I mean, I am. I am talking about Trump. Yeah. But that was, yeah. Yeah. So he's telling him, just make a god miracle for me. Okay.

[02:19:38] This sucks. Yeah. Trash. Right. Okay. And then, um, inverses three through six, the message to Zedikaya about Jerusalem's coming conquest. Okay. So this is basically what he said back. Okay. Yeah. By verse five says, I myself will fight against you. I being god O'leo. Right. The god man.

[02:20:00] Yeah. That's not the answer. You wanted to know. No. He's like, not only won't. I give you your fucking miracle and find you some votes. Yeah. I'm coming to smack you down. Right. I'm going

[02:20:11] to knock you flat. Yeah. Which would have been kind of cool if it that had happened to Trump. Like if God had just been like, I not only won't find you your thousands of votes,

[02:20:22] I am going to smack you personally. I'm going to let a lot of Trump preferences. I can't help it. Okay. These a piece of shit as is this political god figure. Okay. Yeah. So, you know,

[02:20:33] it's not my fault. Right. It's just like they're comparing Zedikaya to Trump. Not God to Trump. So whatever. Yeah. That's true. That's true. And then, and then God was like, I won't find your votes.

[02:20:45] Right. Which makes God seem like he's a good guy because he's the one to stand up saying, no, I'm not going to not kind of break the rules for you. True, but I'm just saying much the way I'm

[02:20:54] phrasing it. You know, much like God, the Republican Party is what helped Trump get there in the first fucking place. True. So it ain't all good. Right. You know, you can't pave the path and then be

[02:21:08] sad at the stones you have laid leading right where you were leading them to. Right. You know? Yeah. Okay. So Judah would not only have to fight against the Babylonians who had not only

[02:21:18] besieged Jerusalem, but would breach the very walls of the inner city, they would also have to fight against God himself. Man, even though God himself really isn't coming down to do anything,

[02:21:30] he's using Babylon. I was going to say if God wanted to fight, he hypothetically has just killed like 185,000 people with a snap of a finger. Right. And you know, there's just he could just end it,

[02:21:41] you know? He could be good. So fighting God is kind of an irrelevant statement because it's cutesy. It's playing QC with. Yeah. Yeah. So verse seven was about the message to Zedakaya about his own

[02:21:56] terrible fate. So that was about the people and what's going to happen to the city. This is about Zedakaya himself. Okay. Verse seven says, I will deliver Zedakaya King of Judah, his servants,

[02:22:08] and the people dot dot dot because I skipped a whole lot into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon. So he's like, fuck you. You're going down. Yeah. Okay. And those fortunate enough to survive the

[02:22:21] pestilence and the sword and the famine would be taken as exiles out of Jerusalem and Judah and to the land of Babylon. So if you're fortunate, you just become a slave. Right. Okay. Exactly. That's fortune. That's fortune. That's what you want to hope for in this particular situation.

[02:22:37] Sounds like a bad bad thing. And the people could expect no mercy from Nebuchadnezzar in this right. Because he was not going to like not come look, it doesn't surprise me in the historical

[02:22:50] sense of an ancient war that these things, these atrocities happened. Right. What surprises me is the willingness for God to let them happen to his own people. Right. That's what's so good. And then

[02:23:00] and then pretend that what I had this planned all along. Right. Oh, did you? You did? That's cute. Yeah. So verses eight through ten talk about the message to Jerusalem in light of the coming conquest.

[02:23:13] So Jeremiah was very busy. He was delivering messages left and right. He was talking to the king. Like he was talking blasphemy, you know, just outright like King, God's coming to getcha, which the king probably considered blasphemous. You know what I'm saying? He was talking to

[02:23:33] not the king, the leader of his people. You know what I mean? Yeah. Which one of my blasphemy would be against God though, right? Right. But he wasn't speaking against God, but I'm sure

[02:23:43] that the king felt like it was against God. Like how dare you speak these blasphemous words saying God's coming to get me. Well, if he was that concerned about it though, wouldn't she think that he'd be

[02:23:54] punishing Jeremiah in the state of the state? You would think because Jeremiah got pretty fucking up aty. Yeah. But no, nobody came and got him except that they would whip them and put them

[02:24:05] in the stocks. Yeah. It sounds like I almost like, I mean, I don't view it as like he was going because I think they were sending messages, right? I think that probably Jeremiah was somewhere else

[02:24:16] and just... He was busy digging up his dirty undies from that river. Yeah. So okay, but now he's talking to the people of Jerusalem and he says, people, your only hope is in

[02:24:31] surrender. The leaders of Judah hoped to inspire the people to defend the city with courage and to nacity. Like, the leaders were like, we got to fight for a right to not get killed by Babylon.

[02:24:44] Right. And Jeremiah's like, no, no, no, no. Since God is against them, your only hope is to accept God's punishment. Go be a slave. That's your best hope. You go and die. I mean, if you're viewing

[02:24:58] what's coming at you and you're like, we're going to lose. Yeah. These probably right. Yeah. Like that. And I'm just saying from like a, reviewing the, what's ahead of you, politically, right. Right. Yeah. Great. You see, you're going to lose probably better than negotiate a less

[02:25:16] than bloody outcome for with the people that are going to be taking you over. Exactly. Exactly. So then inverses 11 to 12. There's a call to repent and then versus 13 to 14 comes the devouring fire.

[02:25:33] Yeah. So verse 13 says, behold, I'm against you. Oh, and habitant of the valley and rock of the plane. And that's something that the Lord said. Okay. Sure. And this announcement is likely addressed

[02:25:45] to the inhabitants of the royal palace built on O'Fell, which looks down on the valley or plane of Kidrin. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And then verse 14 says, I will Kindle a fire in its forest and

[02:25:59] it shall devour all things around it. We talk about what the forest meant. This reference is likely to the royal palace, which in first Kings is referred to as the house of the forest of Lebanon. Sure. Because of the considerable quantity of cedar used in its construction. Right.

[02:26:15] And I still think it's cool. Right. Yeah. Okay. So that was chapter 21. Now we're moving into chapter 22. Okay. And that's going to be about the prophecies against the Kings of Judah. Okay. And this is

[02:26:28] where we started to get confused about, wait, what order is this in? What's happening? Where is all this about? We don't know. So verses 1 through 5 are an urgent call to repent again and still some more.

[02:26:40] Okay. And these verses are close enough to the message sent back to Zedakaya to suggest that verse site that we are still dealing with the same man, the same King, the same guy.

[02:26:50] Right. But it seems more likely that this paragraph was a much earlier message sent to another King earlier on since there was still time for the house of David to recover strongly. Okay.

[02:27:01] Like, you know, if you will just bow down and behave, you know, this can be fixed. This can be fixed. God will get you. Right. You know? And so that's a good argument, I think, for where this falls.

[02:27:16] So this chapter seems to fall before the prior chapter. Right. Okay. Yeah. So verses 6 and 7 are about the coming judgment. And then verses 8 and 9 are the nations asking, why is that happening over there? That seems weird. Jeremiah pictures the people of the nations seeing the destruction

[02:27:35] of Jerusalem and wondering why? Why is their God getting them get pummeled? Right. Weird. Yeah. And they were probably Jeremiah imagines the masking questions like, where these not the people of God was the God of Israel weaker than the God of the Babylonians. Meanwhile, we were

[02:27:53] imagining that they don't give a fuck. Right. And then Jeremiah assumes that these other nations will answer their own question with the understanding that, oh yeah, their idolatry led to such destruction. They should have prayed harder to their own God because they care about like

[02:28:09] the conversation that Jeremiah is having in this head there makes absolutely no sense. Yeah, because what they would be doing if they thought of them at all is, yeah, I guess that God is weak.

[02:28:21] They should have prayed to our God. Right. Yeah. If they thought of them at all. We're thinking then the God sends it all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They would not be like, oh, they should have prayed to

[02:28:30] their God harder. They would be judging them by the fact that their God sucked. Right. Right. That's just the way that works. Yeah. You know? So moving on versus 10 through 12 are about the message from

[02:28:42] Shalom who is also called Jehoha's. Okay. Verse 10 says, we're not for the dead nor be moan him. We bitterly for him who goes away for he shall return no more nor see his native country. And these

[02:28:58] words regard the death of King Josiah who was killed in battle at Magito. And the exile of his son Shalom who was Jehoha's who succeeded Josiah but was almost immediately deposed by

[02:29:12] the Pharaoh Nico of Egypt. Got it. Okay. Yeah. So again, this is like all out of order like what the fuck is even happening? Yeah. Yeah. And it sounds like there's like a million different political things. Fashionation. Yeah. You know, Israel at this point. Yes. Exactly. And then

[02:29:29] verse 11 says, for thus the Lord concerning Shalom the son of Josiah, King of Judah who reigns instead of Josiah his father who went from this place. Okay. So let's talk about Shalom

[02:29:41] the son of Josiah. Okay. That was the fourth son of King Josiah as stated in first chronicles when he was anointed as King by the people of Judah to succeed Josiah. Okay. And that was

[02:29:55] stuff that we've read about in second Kings and second chronicles. Okay. Got it. And that happened in 609 BCE. Okay. But he was dethroned after three months by Pharaoh Nico in prison taking captive to Egypt and died without returning from there. Again, this is second Kings and second chronicles

[02:30:15] and Azikio. Mm-hmm. And that fulfilled Jeremiah's prophecy in this chapter. So these these time frames all kind of butt up against each other a little bit, but like apparently Egypt and the Babylonians had political influence over their leaders and were deposing and imposing leaders on them. Yes.

[02:30:32] Sounds like a crazy bunch of shit. And I didn't really catch that either the first time through in chronicles and kings or the second time through in Jeremiah. Right. Or really the second time

[02:30:45] through would have been Azikio and then me and Maya and then the third time through would have been now in Jeremiah. It almost sounds to me like it's a power play between two larger cultures like the Babylonians and the Egyptians. Yes. That's playing out in their land. Yeah,

[02:31:01] it's almost like they're using Judah Jerusalem Israel all of that as a proxy war. Yeah. It's almost like Russia and the US using the Ukraine as a proxy war. Right. Right. Not to put like modern

[02:31:17] day things happening again in context of the past, but why don't we let's do that? Right. Let us use examples of what's happening today. Right. Ridiculousness. So versus 13 through 17 are about the message to Joaquin. So again Jeremiah sending all these messages to everybody. Yeah. Okay.

[02:31:41] The people are deceiving themselves if they think that God will not allow anyone to attack Jerusalem. They're going to be disappointed if they think that the city's fortified position guarantees it safety, which we know he's not saying that for 20 odd chapters now. And if you've got two superpowers

[02:31:58] that are surrounding you and fighting over you, you're so fucked. Yeah. And you know it. You know it. If you're telling yourself otherwise you're you're deluding yourself. Yeah. What you have to do is pick

[02:32:06] the lesser of two and hope that they will help you, you know, not die. Not die at the hands of the other. Right. So it's no wonder that they were like turning to like making deals with Egypt and then

[02:32:21] making some kind of concession to Babylon. They were just trying to survive. Yeah. So versus 18 through 19 are about the judgment to come upon Joaquin. Okay. Again, these are all out of order. Sure. Because we've already talked about this dude. Right. Okay. Verse 18 says,

[02:32:40] therefore, that says the Lord concerning Joaquin, the Son of Josiah King of Judah. They shall not lament for him saying, Elas, my brother or Elas, my sister. They shall not lament for him saying, Elas, master or Elas has glory. Verse 19 says,

[02:32:56] he shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Jerusalem. Mm-hmm. So first of all, what came the Son of Josiah is the second son of King Josiah

[02:33:08] as stated in first Chronicles. Okay. And he's also called Elia King before he was made King of Judah by Farroniko to replace Jehoa has. And that we read about in second kings and second Chronicles.

[02:33:21] And this happened in circa 609 or 608 BCE. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And he rained about 11 years until 598 BCE. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Rebinical literature describes Joaquin as a godless tyrant who committed a trotisense and crimes. He is portrayed as living in incestuous relations

[02:33:47] with his mother, his daughter-in-law, his stepmother, all the women of his court. He would nasty. And he was in the habit of murdering men whose wives he then violated and whose property he seized.

[02:34:00] He also had tattooed his body which we all know is just an agrija sin worthy of mentioning with incest and rape. Sure. Yeah. So not a good character. Not a good character. Tatoo's aside. Right. Like I think tattoos are cool, but what about? Okay.

[02:34:18] Jeremiah criticized the King's policies in sissy non-repentance and strict adherence to the law. Right. Like not just legal law, but like, liberal law. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His despicable character earned him no respect from the people.

[02:34:36] And in 598 BC to end the siege of Jerusalem, the priests of Sanhedrin delivered him to Nembeckanessor, King of Babylon and he died as prophecy without proper burial. Got it. Yeah. So he was peace shit. Right. Okay. So side note, I have a side note here.

[02:34:57] That was already a really cool side note, but here's another side note. Okay. While second Kings gives no hint of this, while Kings death occurred wild Jerusalem was besieged by the Babylonians because of his rebellion. And there is a highly plausible

[02:35:13] possibility that there was a palace revolt during this time during which the King was assassinated and his body was cast over the wall indicating to the Babylonians that Jerusalem disassociated itself from his rebellious policy. Jerusalem certainly escaped relatively lightly when it did

[02:35:34] eventually surrender. Okay. So that's why they think this probably happened. Yeah. The people were probably like, no fuck that guy. We have nothing to do with him. Which I thought was worthy of including because the Bible always talks about the King being

[02:35:51] responsible for the people's daily lives and who they choose to worship or not worship. Right. And in this, we've got an excellent judgment based on how the exact two, which is what I meant. The Bible says that. Right. So in this case, in a historical context, it's like,

[02:36:09] but sometimes the people took shit into their own hands and they look like fuck this shit. Yeah, we're not about this King. So I just thought that was worth mentioning. Okay. So verses 20 through 23 are about a prophecy against Jerusalem and her rulers. Okay. And verse 20 says,

[02:36:25] go up to Lebanon and cry out and lift up your voice to Bashan. Cry from a beroom for all your lovers are destroyed. Okay. Lebanon with its glorious forest was the very picture of beauty

[02:36:38] and prosperity as was Bashan with its rich pastures. Got it. Abram was, I'm sorry, a beroom was the mountain range in the southeast from which Moses had viewed the promise land. Okay. So

[02:36:52] that just kind of puts all of these various locations in a little bit of context geographically. Okay. Next we're coming up on the message to Caniah. Okay. And I believe that's Jecaniah depending on whether you're using Babylonian Egyptian Hebrew, whatever his name was. Okay.

[02:37:14] So verses 24 through 27 read about the coming exile for Caniah also known as Jecaniah and Joaquin. Okay. Those are all the same dude. Got it. Got it. Again, it just depends on who's

[02:37:29] referring to him in their texts. Right. So toward that end, a lot of this stuff has been verified by other historical sources. Like, I forget the name Josephus and forget who the other historical

[02:37:45] guy that wrote about all of these histories way back when. Sure. And so when they reference these guys depending on their what nation they were affiliated with was how they would call this guy.

[02:37:58] Got it. And then when we put it all together, that's how we're like, oh okay. So this guy is called three different things depending on who's talking to him. Okay. So verse 24 says, as I live says the Lord, though Caniah, the son of Joaquin, King of Judah,

[02:38:13] were the signet on my right hand. Yeah. I would pluck you off and, you know, the signet was a ring. Yeah. Okay. Verse 25 says, and I will give you into the hand of those who seek your life

[02:38:26] and into the hand of those who space you fear, the hand of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon and the hand of the Chaudians. Which is interesting because the Chaudians and the Babylonians were often referred to interchangeably. Oh, okay. So I didn't know that. Yeah. That's interesting.

[02:38:46] Caniah is an alternate spelling of the name, Jecaniah, the son of Joaquin, who succeeded as father, Joaquin for three months and 10 days as a king of Judah. And that was mentioned in

[02:38:57] second Kings and second Chronicles. Right. And this was in 597 BCE. Okay. Okay. Until he and his family members, including his mother, as well as the number of his officers, were exiled to Babylon by

[02:39:11] Nebuchadnezzar while the king of Babylon placed Zedakaya on the throne of Judah as reported in Jeremiah chapter 24, which will get to your shortly. I'll say a sound like it is put in a place. Yes. Because like, you know, they tossed the guy over, you know, they're like,

[02:39:29] they gave up the one king and this is the guy's son, right? Mm. Yes. But now we're talking about Zedakaya again. Right. But I'm saying before Zedakaya, this was the guy, right for three months

[02:39:39] was the guy that they had tossed over the wall's son. Right. So they just had a placeholder to like, okay, yeah, technically you're next in line. Just hang tight, man. We're going to like, we're going to kill you in the middle. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So for 36 years,

[02:39:54] Zedakaya remained in prison at Babylon. Mm. Yeah. And the archeological evidence of his presence in Babylon was found in form of Rations tablets bearing his name and title. Really? Yeah. That's that's actually really interesting. That is so cool. Right. So again, we have like,

[02:40:13] some historical proof of the existence of these people and what was happening to them. Mm. Okay. Yeah. So the Bible isn't all filled with lies except for the God parts. Right. No,

[02:40:25] right. No, I, I, I, I've said this before. I can, I can appreciate the Bible with regard to some of the historical context that it provides. But you know, you have to look at it outside of the

[02:40:36] God stuff because the God stuff is ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. Yeah. When Nebuchadnezzar died, his son Amal Merodock released, Jack and Ia and gave him an honorable seat at his own table.

[02:40:49] And we read about that in second Kings. And then somewhere else in Jeremiah, we're going to read about that. Yeah. I do recall that they actually talked somewhat fondly of them as to like,

[02:40:58] yeah. So they appreciated it. Right. So that's that's something that I kind of forgot about until I read this note. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So it's so confusing because I don't remember all of the

[02:41:11] Kings. I think we talked about this earlier in the week, all the Kings of Judah and Israel that they went through all of this stuff that happened. And now we're reading about them as though we're

[02:41:21] supposed to have recalled them like off the top of your head. Yeah. And I just don't, right? You know, so it's very confusing. Yep. All right. First is 28 through 30 are about the curse on the line

[02:41:33] of Canaya. Okay. Okay. First 28 says, is this man Canaya a despised broken idol of vessel in which is no pleasure? Okay. We talked about this vessel in which there is no pleasure as a

[02:41:48] piss pot. Yeah. So that's a toilet. It's a technical term for a pot, a description of a vessel of inferior grade. This being an indirect and sarcastic reference to a piss pot, aka a toilet. Got it.

[02:42:01] Okay. So I just want to say it again. Piss pot. Yeah. Piss pot. Piss pot. He was a piss pot. Verse 30 says, thus says the Lord right this man down as childless a man who shall not prosper in

[02:42:14] his days for none of his descendants shall prosper sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah. And this is where we're worried about the end of the David line exactly exactly.

[02:42:26] Jack and Ia has seven sons according to first chronicles. Okay. But the Davidic lineage of Kingship did not extend to his ears. This prophecy obviously prevents a problem because God promised David that his descendant would reign as Messiah over Israel and the world in second

[02:42:45] Samuel. Right. Yeah. Okay. By the time of Joaquim and Canaya that descendant had not yet come and hear God seems to promise that it would be impossible for the descendant to come. Right. Let's go. Yeah. That's a problem. If someone was a blood descendant of David through Joaquim,

[02:43:02] he could not sit on the throne of Israel and be the king. And the Messiah, he could not be the king and the Messiah because of this curse recorded in Jeremiah. Right. But if the conqueror was not

[02:43:14] descendant through David, he could not be the legal heir of the throne because of the promise made to David and the nature of the royal line. What are we going to do? I don't know. I don't

[02:43:23] either. I know. I'm worried. I'm curious. Yeah. So who is this Jesus guy that we're going to read about eventually, right? So okay that was chapter 22. Now we're moving into chapter 23. Okay.

[02:43:35] So this is about the branch of righteousness, the return of the remnant. Okay. Turn off the Mac. You know that song? No clue which talking about. Oh, it's a hip hop song. Return of the Mac.

[02:43:49] Still have no clue which talking about. Okay. I've had some of our listeners do. I'm sure you're 18. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So verses one and two read about the woe to the shepherd's who destroy

[02:44:02] and verses three and four are about the promise to restore the wounded and scattered flock. Okay. And then verses five and six are about the king to come. Got it. Verse five reads,

[02:44:13] behold, the days are coming says the Lord that I will raise to David a branch of righteousness and we're like, but how though? Right. Because you just said you weren't. Right. So I don't know

[02:44:25] how you plan to fix that and you messed up. Yeah. God promised that the Messiah would come from the line of David and second Samuel, which we just talked about. Right. However at the end of the previous

[02:44:36] chapter, God had promised that none from the royal line of Jecanaya would sit at the throne of David. It seemed at that point as if the royal line of David was cut down like a tree

[02:44:47] right. It branched tree branched. I got it. Did you get it? I got it. Because they they point it out a couple times. Do you get it? Do you get it? And I'm like, yes, branches come from trees. You're

[02:44:59] so clever you. Right. Okay. So verse six, part of it reads, now this is his name by which he will be called the Lord our righteousness. So cute. But here's the thing, this is likely a play on the

[02:45:13] name of Zedakaya which means my righteousness is Yahweh. Okay. So it's like they're saying the Messiah is going to be called the Lord our righteousness and that's like ha ha ha and your name

[02:45:27] is my righteousness is Yahweh but your peace shit. Got it? So okay. No, you're not. Your your righteousness is not Yahweh. You are a liar and a fool and the real righteousness guy is

[02:45:39] coming. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Side note we're not there yet but Jesus is called our righteousness. So that's the thing. He might be that Messiah. Oh magic. Okay. Verse seven, three, eight are about the greatness of God's work of gathering and restoring and God promises that

[02:46:00] the restoration of Israel will be greater than the actual creation of Israel. So that was that part where he was like, you know how they call me, the dude that freed you from Egypt and I

[02:46:13] created you through the desert and all those trials and whatever and I brought you to the promised land. That story is going to be nothing. Like my creation of you is your story right now and that's

[02:46:24] going to be nothing. The restoration of Israel is going to be better than the very creation of it. But they always he always has the they always have these moments where things are

[02:46:33] going to go all going to shit right and it's always that is going to be better on the other side. Yeah. You know like it's a repetitive story that they

[02:46:41] would grasp the pain in the bite. Yeah. So yeah. It's like yes it might actually stay green if you quit trying to conquer other lands and you know embark on all of these crusades of religiosity.

[02:46:55] Why do I think that you know any time that shit happens people have if they're going to believe in a God they have to believe that whatever is happening is happening for something better later on. Yeah. Right. Because if it's not then what the fuck is the point?

[02:47:07] Yeah. You might as well lay down and die and say put life just sucks sometimes. What? Sometimes meteors just hit your planet and kill everything. I don't think you should just lay down and die.

[02:47:18] Oh, but that's their thinking though. I can't find anything to live for other than God. And if there's no God that means everything's random. So I guess I'll just lay down and die.

[02:47:29] Just bullshit. There's plenty of it live for it. It's just a matter of finding that truth and in yourself. But see there's all of these things in the Bible that say stop trusting your own heart. Yeah. Well, they can fuck off. Right. No, I totally agree with you.

[02:47:43] That's how I feel about that. Holy, agree with you. So this next section is about the pain brought with false prophets and the denunciation of those lying prophets. Okay. Okay. Versus nine and ten, talk about Jeremiah's broken heart over false prophets. He's so

[02:47:58] shook. You know, he's all sad. And he's like why are these guys using your words? This is so oh my god. And you know, his bones are quaken and so yeah. And then verses 11 through 12 are about profane prophets and priests. Those bastards. Okay. And then verses 13 and 15

[02:48:17] about the judgment promised against the corrupt prophets. Okay. And verse 13 reads, and I have seen falling in the prophets of Samaria. They promised by Baal and caused my people Israel to air. It's those guys' fault. Right. That my people fell. Yeah. God is comparing

[02:48:38] the prophets of Jerusalem and Judah to be like the prophets of Samaria that led the northern kingdom to spiritual and social ruin some 150 years before. He's specifically talking about Sodom and Gomorrah. Okay. So he's like, can you even believe all this shit? Are you sure I thought

[02:48:56] that was more than 150 years prior? That was in old Old Testament. Oh, maybe I'm getting this confused with another section because I know that they mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah. God, yeah, I mean, 100 years prior would have been the fall of the northern kingdom of the area. Oh,

[02:49:09] you're right. I don't think that had any of your right. I was I was tying a future note that I'm not at yet with this. Okay. So my bad whatever doesn't matter. I mean, it does matter.

[02:49:22] For context, it matters. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that was my mistake. So if you especially Sodom and Gomorrah is such a prominent thing in the Baalids. If you have a bingo board, you can go ahead and cross that off. Okay. Because the people had poisoned the nation's

[02:49:37] spiritual springs, the Lord plan to inflict similar physical judgment on them portrayed by bitter food and poisoned water. So that's the pestlellance and drought that he promises to bring the people. God, okay. Versus 16 through 17 are about don't listen to the corrupt profits,

[02:49:56] stupid, they're corrupt. Right. And then versus 16 or through 17 or what I just said, or I'm sorry, along with 16 and 17, don't listen to the corrupt profits are also don't listen to your heart. But Rockset begs to differ. Listen to your heart when he's calling for you. You know? Yes.

[02:50:16] I do know that one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Versus 18 through 20 are about the serious nature of God's judgments. This is very serious. Is it very serious? This nature is very serious. Got it. The nature

[02:50:29] of which is serious. Okay. Okay. First 19 reads, behold, a whirlwind of the Lord has gone fourth and fury, a violent whirlwind. Okay. And this is like really not to do with anything other than

[02:50:43] I just found it so fucking interesting. There's this wind called a Simone. Okay. And it's a hot pestlellential wind blowing from the south. Frequently mentioned or referred to in the sacred writings as and it's temperature may exceed 54 degrees Celsius or 129 degrees Fahrenheit. Wow. It is

[02:51:06] some hot fucking wind. Yeah. And I was like, what do you mean? It's like frequently mentioned. Well Dickens refers to it in many of his literature. What's words worth refer to it in some

[02:51:20] of his poetry. I forget I should have written these down but there's a bunch of people who refer to it in their literature throughout American history alone. But yeah, this is apparently

[02:51:31] just a word that people know that I never heard of. Simone. Got it. It's a Simone. It's like a deraucho. It's like a deraucho that we never like we never heard about a deraucho until all of a

[02:51:42] sudden what like 10 years ago it was like raining cats and dogs and they were like, it's a deraucho and everybody was looking at each other going with the fuck as a deraucho. But like on the news,

[02:51:54] all the reporters are like, what we've been using this term for ages and I'm like you're lying. You have you have not ever heard it before. You've never said that before and the fact that you're

[02:52:03] saying it a hundred times in a row shows me that you're a liar face because you're just so excited about this new word you just learned. You have mentioned I just yeah deraucho. Get the

[02:52:13] fuck out of here. I'm not saying it's not a word. I'm saying that it wasn't in common American vernacular until all of a sudden it just was. Right. Fuck off. Okay, anyway versus 21 through 22 are about the

[02:52:27] corrupt prophets who were not sent by God which haven't we covered that already? Yeah, the truth. Okay versus 23 through 24 are about the foolishness of resisting or rejecting God. Don't do it. Right. And then 25 through 27 are about prophetic lies those lying liars who tell lies like

[02:52:47] Republicans. Then versus 28 through 29 are about the low place of spiritual phenomena compared to the word of God. Got it. Don't don't do things that are not the word of God. Okay. Yeah. You'll be low.

[02:53:03] I guess. Sure. versus 33 through 33 are about God against the corrupt prophets which I mean can we just get over this now? Can we have a different chapter? Almost there. versus 33 through 40 are about no longer mentioned the oracle or the burden of the Lord.

[02:53:24] Okay. And I thought this was interesting. The section is somewhat difficult because of a pun and word play in Hebrew. The key word is Mesa, M-A-S-S-A which meant both burden and oracle in the sense

[02:53:39] of revelation from God like an oracle is in and of itself a burden placed upon a prophet. Okay. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay. And sometimes one sense of the word is intended sometimes the other and sometimes both. So sometimes they're saying oracle, sometimes they're saying

[02:53:56] burden and sometimes they're saying a burdeny oracle oracle that's a burden. Okay. And the word came to mean that which was placed as a burden on the heart of a prophet. Got it. Which is an oracle.

[02:54:11] Right. Yeah. Right. So the Mesa of Yahweh is that the people are a Mesa is basically what they're saying. Okay. Which means the oracle of Yahweh is that the people are a burden

[02:54:25] or the burden of Yahweh is that the people are a burden. Okay. Okay. All right. So the people are a burden to Yahweh? Yeah. Got it. They're trying him all the fucking time. I was just always

[02:54:36] retired that God of that God of ours. Yeah. He's so tired. People are so fucking burdensome. Yeah. I'm like, oh that's on you. Bro. Right. Boom. Whatever. Oh no. Look what I just did. I just

[02:54:51] scroll and oops. Okay. I found my spot. Okay. Chapter 24. Okay. Okay. We're getting in. We're closing on to the finish. Okay. Yeah. This is about the lesson from the good and bad fix. Okay. For the

[02:55:06] fix. Yes. I do. Okay. The two baskets of fix. Okay. Verse one is about the time and place of the lesson. And the time of the vision is after 597 BCE. Okay. Verse one reads, the Lord showed me and

[02:55:20] there were two baskets of figs. Except before the temple of the Lord. After never could never could never King of Babylon. It carried away captive. Jack and I as a son of Joaquim, King of

[02:55:30] Judah and the princes of Judah with the craftsmen and Smiths from Jerusalem and had brought them to Babylon. King, Jack and I of Judah, rained only a few months. He was deposed and

[02:55:41] exiled as in second Kings when never could never came a second time to Jerusalem in 597 BCE. After his short reign, Kings at a Kaya reigned. He his 11-year reign was the last of the Kings of Judah before a complete Babylonian conquest. Okay. This prophecy was likely delivered

[02:56:04] in the first year of the reign of Zedakaya. Okay. So again out of order. Right. Like what the fuck is happening? Right. So verses two and three are about what Jeremiah saw the two fucking baskets

[02:56:18] which were likely they were left before a temple so they were likely an offering of some sort. Okay. They weren't just like random figs sitting around as you and I suggested like there

[02:56:29] go some figs just sitting there. Right. So then we're going to learn about the baskets of figs. Okay. Okay. Verse is fourth through seven are about the good basket of figs, the good ones,

[02:56:42] the wants be ones. Right. Right. Okay. Verse five reads, thus as the Lord, the God of Israel, like these good figs, civil-like knowledge, those who are carried away captive from Judah, whom I have sent out of this place with their own good into the land of the Chaudians.

[02:56:58] Well, the people at that time assumed those and to the exile are the objects of God's wrath. God says that he actually favors them. And what we'll return them back to Israel to become a

[02:57:09] faithful and fruitful nation who figs are fruit. Get it, get it, get it? Okay. Verse six reads, for I will set my eyes on them for good and I will bring them back to this land. I will build them

[02:57:23] and not pull them down and I will plant them and not pluck them up because he will because he does. Yeah. Right. So God promised to bless those represented by the good figs, even in captivity

[02:57:36] and to bring them back to this land and they would be among those who came back to Judah with Ezra and Niyamaya starting around 538 BCE. Okay. So this whole book takes place before

[02:57:49] books that we already read and that is so fucking confusing. It really is. I hate it. Yeah. I want it to die. All right. So then verses eight through ten are about the basket of bad figs, bad figs,

[02:58:04] so bad. Verse eight reads, and as the bad figs which cannot be eaten they are so bad. Thus surely says the Lord. So will I give up Zedakaya that King of Judah is princes,

[02:58:16] the residue of Jerusalem who remain in this land and those who dwell in the land of Egypt. So basically those who remained in Jerusalem thought they were favored by God, but God declared that he going destroy them. Everyone of them including kings Zedakaya. He won't getcha.

[02:58:32] Got it. Okay. Yeah. All right. So that was chapter 24. Okay. Now we're on our final chapter, chapter 25. Okay. Okay. Chapter 25 is also as we mentioned in some weird all of a sudden way.

[02:58:45] The final chapter and the first section of the book of Jeremiah that we didn't even know was broken in dissections and even though I've looked ahead, I've never really found any other mention of it

[02:58:53] being broken in dissections. Unlike what are you talking about weirdos? Okay. And this deals with the earliest and main core of Jeremiah's message. Okay. And this chapter, Jeremiah identified the length of the time of exile as 70 years. Right. Okay. So verses one and two are about the word

[02:59:15] to Judah and Jerusalem. Okay. So this prophecy was delivered in the fourth year of Joaquim and the chapter that contains it is utterly out of its place. It should be between chapters 35 and 36. That's exciting. Yeah. Babylon conquered Egypt in 605 BCE, the fourth year of Joaquim's reign.

[02:59:36] So let me just reiterate in case you weren't paying attention, Babylon conquered Egypt. Okay. Okay. Yeah. In 605 BCE, okay. This was the fourth year of Joaquim's reign according to Judean reckoning or the third year of his reign according to Babylonian reckoning.

[02:59:55] So we don't know. Okay. Third or fourth year. Sure. Okay. At this point, Judah came under the direct control of Babylon for the first time and Jeremiah now clearly sees his prophecies being fulfilled before his very eyes. He's like, oh shit. It's coming. Right. He

[03:00:16] reminds the people that for over 20 years he's been trying to bring God's message to him but they have not been listening. Right. He's like, I've been telling you for 20 years he won't get you.

[03:00:25] He's the conspiracy theorist that it might have been paid off for him. Yep. Exactly. The doomsday proper. Yeah. That is like I've been living for this day. Right. So first one reads

[03:00:37] the word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Joaquim, the son of Josiah, King of Judah which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon. That last bit was parenthesis voice and it matters because parenthesis voice represents

[03:00:57] words and parenthesis. And these bracketed words, let me read them again which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon. They were likely added later as they were not included in the

[03:01:07] Septuagint. Okay. So they were just added as this is who this guy is. They forgot. Yeah. It was like a posted, a sticky note. Okay. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. Yeah. Okay versus three through

[03:01:21] seven are about the rejected word of the prophets. Okay. So part of verse three reads this is the 23rd year in which the word of the Lord has come to me and I've spoken to you rising early

[03:01:34] and speaking but you've not listened you fucks. Okay. Jeremiah had prophesied for almost 20 years under Josiah followed by just three months under Jehovah has and three years under Joaquim. He was therefore in the middle of his career at this point. Okay. Okay. So mathematically he still got a

[03:01:54] little ways to go. Right. Okay. So verses eight through 11 are about the 70 years of desolation that are about to come. Okay. Verse nine reads, behold I will send and take all the families of the

[03:02:07] North says the Lord. So the families of the North have been interpreted as being the allies of the King of Babylon, the many nations comprising the Babylonian empire, subunits or divisions

[03:02:20] of a tribe, a political unit or the Babylonians in general. Okay. So we don't know but he won't get you. Sure. Okay. The rest of verse nine reads, Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylon, my servant will

[03:02:34] bring them against this land, against its fucking inhabitants and against all those goddamn nations all around. Okay. Obviously I'm paraphrasing. Right. When Jeremiah made this prophecy, Babylon had just established itself as the dominant world power by defeating the rival Egyptians

[03:02:57] at Karshermesh. Okay. So they're like King of the world. Right. Right. Oh yeah, bitches. Okay. So Babylonian is just like full of itself at this moment. Sure. Now the step to agenda does not

[03:03:11] include the words my servant when referring to Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon and that is likely because the translator, the Greek translator, objected to giving such a title on such a place of honor

[03:03:24] to a pagan king. Got it. Which I was like, yeah I'm good for you little translator guy. Like you write in that shit and you're like, nope, not putting that in there. Right. Hardly anybody can read

[03:03:35] right now so nobody will notice. We notice. And when they were talking about, um oh, I'm sorry. Let me get back to where it was. Verse 11, and this whole land shall be a desolation and an astonishment

[03:03:51] and these nation cells serve the king of Babylon 70 years. Okay. So quote unquote, these nations include Judah and the surrounding nations such as Moab and Penisha. Okay. So it is a big ton of

[03:04:04] people. Right. And 70 years may represent the length of a lifetime so it might have just been like I'll make this little prophecy and say, um we are going to be captive for the length of a lifetime

[03:04:19] of a man. And then I'll be dead so who cares? No, you'll notice. Yeah. Right. And the 70 years of serving the king of Babylon began circa 605 BCE according to second kings and ended circa

[03:04:34] 536 BCE according to Ezra. Not that is 69 years. Got it. So okay. Not bad math. Right. Right. So which is interesting. It almost like if somebody was really paying attention, they'll be like

[03:04:50] the fact that he rounded up to 70 shows that it's a prophecy because like, you know, he didn't just backdate it and fill it in. He gave a roundabout because he wasn't sure because you know,

[03:05:04] it was magical prophecy. But also there were still stuff going on in 597. Right. Like the official was like 526. You don't actually know that the beginning date and the end date of a war are happening until decades later. Well, it's just that I've heard you throw it multiple times.

[03:05:22] And like the 6605 just now, right? At one point earlier in the chat in the Q&A, we were saying it was 586 is when they actually went into exile. So like that was the final like in this walking

[03:05:34] or walking whichever one was. Yeah. I don't remember how in 597. That's when he got taken captured. So there's a lot of stuff that happened after this 605 timeframe that makes it that perfect 70 year mark. Right. That doesn't seem to, that doesn't pan out. That doesn't work. Yeah.

[03:05:49] No, I just thought it wasn't just saying I was like, oh, as long as I've got this right here, let me pull out my calculator and that little statement was to show if you want to make it sound

[03:05:58] like like what they're doing is they're making it it's some Apollo just saying we're going to put the start of it here because they did take some captures here and then we're going to put the end here

[03:06:08] because they did kind of release here. And that makes it close to 70. So that's perfect. Yeah. And then it's an actual prophecy but look at that. No, I agree. There's no perfect number here

[03:06:18] because it this was all going on for a long time and ended over a long time. So it's like asking what the official start and end date of like World War One or World War Two are we can give

[03:06:29] official dates that we as a country or even as a world agree to, but that doesn't mean that shit wasn't happening before and after. Right. Like hello. So versus 12 through 14 are about

[03:06:44] what happens after the 70 years. Okay. First 13 reads, so I will bring on that land all my words which I have pronounced against it all that is written in this book which Jeremiah has prophesied

[03:06:57] concerning all the nations. Okay. At this point we see one of the most obvious discrepancies between the Septuagint, the Greek version versus the Hebrew version of Jeremiah. Okay. The Greek version ends the sentence within this book. So I will bring on that land all my words

[03:07:15] which I have pronounced against it all that is written in this book. Boom. Period. The end. Sure. Okay. And then begins a new section with a title what Jeremiah prophesied against the nations

[03:07:29] but the way we read it is instead of a period that's a comma and instead of saying what Jeremiah we're saying which Jeremiah prophesies concerning all the nations. Got it. So it's just

[03:07:42] interesting the way we set things up and interpret them. Right. So who's to say which is more correct? Yeah. And we're moving on. So now we're getting into that whole cup of wrath thing.

[03:07:53] Okay. Remember the cup? Remember how I wrath inside it? Yes. Okay. Remember how it's going to make them drunk with fury or some shit? Yes. Okay. So versus 15 and 16 we're about the cup of God's

[03:08:05] fury and then versus 17 through 26 we're about Jerusalem as the cup of staggering. Okay. So in verse 23 we read about these various places called Dadan, Tima, Buzz and all who are in the farthest corners. Remember I told you I would read a little bit more about those places. Right.

[03:08:28] So these groups have been identified as various North Arabian tribes and they comprise kingdoms that made up virtually the entire world of the Old Testament. Sure. So all the known world at that time flatter. Right. Yeah. Okay. So Dadan was a son of Abraham by Kicura from Genesis 25

[03:08:50] just to put a little bit of background on who these people are and what their background is. Got it. So Tima was one of the sons of Ishmael in the north of Arabia in Genesis 36. Okay.

[03:09:06] Okay. Buzz was the brother of us and they are descendants of Nehor, brother of Abraham, settled in her Arabia in Genesis 22. Okay. And then the Zimri were descendants of Abraham by Kicura

[03:09:23] in Genesis 25. Okay. So I just thought that was cool. Like I said, to give some background on these people. Yeah. Okay. Verse 26 part of it reads also the King of Shash, Shal drink after them or

[03:09:38] Shishak however we pronounce it. Right. Right. And Shash is a codename for the Babylon's taken from a common cipher known as At Bash, a common system of secret writing that substituted the last

[03:09:53] letter of the Hebrew alphabet for the first. Okay. So like A big one kind of but it's like A would be Z, B would be Y, you know that kind of thing. And the next to the last with the second and then

[03:10:07] they go on through the Hebrew consonants. Okay. And the name derives from the first last second to last Hebrew letters. So a left-taw is as and then bet shin is B. So A S B Y,

[03:10:24] or I'm sorry, a left-taw that shin and then that comes to what did they call it at Bash? So a left-taw at and then bet shin Bash. Okay. So I just thought that was cool. And English that would

[03:10:43] be A Z, B Y like I said so as B, which I was like oh I might make a name in a book I write with a character named as B because that's cool. Right? Yep. Okay. Babylon and Chaldea are typically

[03:10:58] named openly and often but this gives a glimpse into the precautions which people evidently had to take it certain times in conversations or correspondence even though it was a very simple cipher. Okay. So I just thought that was interesting. Right. Right.

[03:11:13] Versus 27 through 29 are about the nations being forced to drink from the cup. Yeah. And Versus 33 through 33 are about the Lord's controversy with those nations and the bodies of the dead will lie rotting and stinking in the sun like poopy. Right. Dookie. Yeah. Okay. And then

[03:11:33] Versus 30 voices, Worsh's 34 through 38 are about the anger of the Lord against the shepherds. Verse 38 reads, he, the Lord has left his layer like the lion for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor. Right. The capital O oppressor. Yeah. Yeah. So as we were reading

[03:11:54] it we commented God presents himself here as the oppressor. But it has also been suggested that the oppressor refers to the agents of God's judgment such as the Babylonians and not directly to God himself. Okay. Or this is also interesting, a slight alteration supported by the

[03:12:14] Septuagint and as such adopted by many commentators instead of saying the fierceness of the oppressor, they say because of the sword. Okay. The sword of the oppressor. Okay. And the word for oppressor or oppression also means dove and this bird was blazing on the standards of the

[03:12:36] Babylonians. And so had become a symbol of their power of oppression. So the text reading is very difficult to defend like seeing it God as the oppressor and the punctuation itself is really more

[03:12:50] in favor of the variant than in the text as we were reading it. Got it. So it's more likely that God was not calling himself an oppressor. He was referring to the Babylonians as oppressor.

[03:13:03] Okay. Even though there is a capital O. But there is tool. So that is true. Yeah. Good call. Good call. So that is our Q&A for chapters 21 through 25 of Jeremiah. Okay. Well, that's in our episode

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