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Patreon Special: Cults vs. Religions
Join Husband and Wife for a thought-provoking Patreon special as they dive into the murky waters of cults versus religions. In this live Discord episode, they explore what distinguishes a cult from a religion, the fuzzy lines between the two, and how societal perceptions shape these definitions.
Here's what we're unpacking:
1. Defining the Divide: Examine the characteristics that differentiate cults from religions and why these terms often blur.
2. Charismatic Leadership: Discuss the role of charismatic leaders in cults and how they wield influence and control.
3. Historical Context: Explore how some major religions may have started as cults and evolved over time.
4. Fear-Based Messaging: Analyze how fear is used to manipulate and control followers in both cults and religious settings.
5. Modern Parallels: Draw connections between cult dynamics and contemporary societal issues, including political and media influences.
Whether you're here for the deep dive into cult dynamics or the candid banter, this episode offers an engaging exploration of a complex topic. For more content, visit our website: SACRILEGIOUSDISCOURSE.COM and join our Discord community for live episodes every Wednesday: https://discord.gg/VBnyTYV6nC
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[00:00:00] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. For this is what the Sovereign Lord says! Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want? If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done, then you can justify any of your behavior. A lot of this mentality is trickling into what is now mainstream right-wing Christianity. I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible. This is a Bible that they tell kids.
[00:00:29] This is the good Lord. This is the good book. He is fantasizing about murder. Mass murder.
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[00:00:48] Wife!
[00:00:49] Do you know what we're doing today?
[00:00:51] Well, we are on Discord right now.
[00:00:54] We're doing it live!
[00:00:55] Yeah, yeah, this is a live episode and it's also not going to be a full episode for everybody.
[00:01:01] That's because it's a Patreon!
[00:01:05] That's right. And what are we doing in our Patreon episode over today?
[00:01:09] We are going to talk about cults versus religions. And the reason that I wanted to do this was twofold. One, well actually it's threefold. One, I couldn't think of anything.
[00:01:22] And then two, so I was like, okay, online things, help me out, suggest a thing.
[00:01:28] And then this is one of the things that grabbed my attention because I literally just last night started watching, I hope anybody knows what I'm talking about, Crash Course by John Green and his brother Hank.
[00:01:44] Hank, Hank, on YouTube.
[00:01:47] Yeah, they're really great.
[00:01:48] And actually schools use them now, which is really amazing.
[00:01:51] Schools use them now, yeah.
[00:01:52] Well, literally there is a like comparative religion course that they just started.
[00:02:00] I want to say there's like six episodes up, but I watched the intro and the first two.
[00:02:05] I was about to watch the next one, which was, guess what?
[00:02:09] Cults.
[00:02:09] The difference between cults and religions.
[00:02:11] And I was like, get the fuck out of here, interwebs!
[00:02:15] Great topic.
[00:02:16] Yeah!
[00:02:16] So I was like, alright, you got me.
[00:02:19] Okay, yeah.
[00:02:19] So I didn't know...
[00:02:20] We could just as easily call, we could just change around and say religion is cult.
[00:02:24] We could.
[00:02:26] Oh, I have to tell you, do you know how many times I was writing cult, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, religion?
[00:02:30] Cult, cult, cult.
[00:02:31] Every single time, 100%, it came out C-O-L-T like the horse.
[00:02:35] Really?
[00:02:36] Every time.
[00:02:36] Interesting.
[00:02:37] Every time.
[00:02:38] Maybe they're trying to, you know, put a stop to cults.
[00:02:40] There's no such thing as cults!
[00:02:43] They're all religions!
[00:02:45] Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:46] So are you...
[00:02:48] So before we get into it, if you are not on Patreon right now, you should go do it.
[00:02:54] So you can go over to patreon.com forward slash sacrilegist discourse.
[00:02:58] That's correct.
[00:02:59] Yeah.
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[00:03:05] I will allow it.
[00:03:06] Yeah.
[00:03:06] So you should go do that now.
[00:03:08] Or if you don't want to spend the money, there is another way.
[00:03:11] You can join us here on Discord like we're doing right now.
[00:03:14] Every Wednesday at 10 p.m. Eastern, we are live on our Discord channel, which the link is always in the show notes.
[00:03:22] And don't worry if you're running like a half hour late.
[00:03:25] The show doesn't usually start until about 45 minutes after 10.
[00:03:27] Yeah, that is correct because I have to find my footing.
[00:03:32] Right.
[00:03:32] By which I mean...
[00:03:33] I got to chat with everybody.
[00:03:34] Yeah, I got to ramble and I got to tell stories and I got to sing a little bit.
[00:03:38] Sure, sure.
[00:03:38] And I got to cuss out a few people.
[00:03:41] Just kidding.
[00:03:42] I don't do that.
[00:03:44] Except for the one and they know who they are.
[00:03:47] So anyway, are you ready to get into this episode?
[00:03:52] Let's talk about cults, baby.
[00:03:54] Let's talk about religion.
[00:03:56] What?
[00:03:57] Yeah, let's do it.
[00:03:58] Okay.
[00:04:03] All right.
[00:04:04] So we are back and we are going to talk about cults.
[00:04:09] Yes, we are.
[00:04:10] Not the horses.
[00:04:11] Not the horses.
[00:04:12] And not the...
[00:04:13] Not the guns either.
[00:04:14] Is it a baseball team?
[00:04:15] That's a football team.
[00:04:16] The cults?
[00:04:17] Damn it.
[00:04:18] I really thought it...
[00:04:19] Dang it.
[00:04:20] I tried so hard.
[00:04:21] And not the guns though either.
[00:04:22] And not the guns.
[00:04:23] Right.
[00:04:23] Right.
[00:04:24] What else are cults?
[00:04:25] I got nothing else that I can think of off the top of my head.
[00:04:28] Horses, guns, and sport team.
[00:04:30] Yeah.
[00:04:31] Okay.
[00:04:31] That sounds about right.
[00:04:32] We're not talking about any of those.
[00:04:34] None of those.
[00:04:34] No.
[00:04:36] Do you have feelings about cults and religions before I get started telling you some things?
[00:04:43] Do I have feelings?
[00:04:44] I grew up in the fucking 90s.
[00:04:46] Like my childhood was in the 80s and 90s.
[00:04:49] Right?
[00:04:49] And we had...
[00:04:51] Satanic panic.
[00:04:52] We did.
[00:04:52] You know what?
[00:04:53] It's funny.
[00:04:53] I was actually...
[00:04:55] I had to go testify at a court hearing for something.
[00:05:00] And I'm just gonna, you know, not...
[00:05:01] I'm not gonna get into that.
[00:05:03] But at the time, me and my friends were into Magic the Gathering.
[00:05:06] And we were playing it out in the waiting room.
[00:05:09] That ended up in the fucking court transcripts.
[00:05:12] Are you kidding me?
[00:05:13] No, I'm absolutely not.
[00:05:14] I don't know this story.
[00:05:16] Yeah.
[00:05:17] What the hell?
[00:05:17] It was in the court transcripts that we were paying some like...
[00:05:21] Devil game.
[00:05:21] Yeah.
[00:05:22] It was...
[00:05:22] Yeah, it was mentioned as a derogatory comment about...
[00:05:25] To degrade your character.
[00:05:27] Yeah.
[00:05:28] Wow.
[00:05:28] That we were doing that out in the lobby.
[00:05:31] Holy shit.
[00:05:32] I'm like, oh my god.
[00:05:34] That's...
[00:05:34] We're just playing a fucking game, guys.
[00:05:36] Like it would have been...
[00:05:37] You wouldn't have mentioned if it was Parcheesi.
[00:05:39] Right?
[00:05:39] Fuck Parcheesi.
[00:05:40] That's boring.
[00:05:42] Magic the Gathering is so much cooler.
[00:05:44] Wow.
