Daniel Wrap-Up: Contradictions and Cocktails
Hey there, fellow skeptics and Bible enthusiasts! In this episode of Sacrilegious Discourse, Husband and Wife are diving into the final episode on the Book of Daniel. It's time to dissect the contradictions, laugh at the absurdities, and maybe even learn a thing or two along the way. Get ready for a wild ride as we wrap up Daniel with our signature blend of humor and skepticism!
First up, we tackle the age-old question: Is it okay to drink alcohol? From the Nazarites in Numbers to the priests in Isaiah, we explore the mixed messages in the Bible about booze. Are believers supposed to abstain, or is it all about moderation? Spoiler alert: the Bible can't seem to make up its mind, and as always, you're "always wrong."
Next, we delve into dietary laws with the question: What kind of animals may we eat? Deuteronomy and Leviticus have their say, but Genesis and Proverbs throw a wrench into the mix. Is it none, some, or all? We break down the biblical buffet and the ever-changing rules about what's on the menu.
Finally, we confront the big one: Is death final? From Joshua's "dead is dead" stance to Isaiah's zombie apocalypse, we explore the Bible's contradictory takes on the afterlife. Are the dead gone for good, or are they just waiting to rise again? Grab your popcorn; it's a horror show!
As always, we bring our irreverent humor and critical eye to the table, questioning the legitimacy and purpose of these ancient stories. Whether you’re here for the theological critique or just some laughs, this episode has got you covered.
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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse.
[00:00:02] [SPEAKER_02]: For this is what the sovereign Lord says!
[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want?
[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done,
[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: then you can justify any of your behavior.
[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of this mentality is trickling into
[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: what is now mainstream right wing Christianity.
[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible.
[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a Bible that they tell kids.
[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the good Lord.
[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the good book.
[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: This is He is fantasizing about murder, mass murder.
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[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Hushman!
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Wife!
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what we're doing today?
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We are officially wrapping up the book of Daniel.
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we already wrapped it up today.
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing it!
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You're always wrong!
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I was wrong.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You were wrong?
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I used the wrong words.
[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I said wrap it up.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Which you mentioned what you said we did.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: What you meant was we're doing our final Daniel episode
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and then we're moving the fuck on.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Technically, I do still have the weekly recap.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So of course.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of the last one.
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But yes.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The last recorded episode is today.
[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is it for Daniel?
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fuck Daniel.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to be right today, right?
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You're always wrong.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready to get into the contradictions?
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Make sure it's fucking.
[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's do this.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, don't be.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, honey, are you ready to get into this?
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You're always wrong?
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Honey?
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You've literally, you don't call me that normally.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And then not often, not often.
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you've ever called me that on the air.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I've never called you that on the air.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm calling you out on it because I'm like, what?
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you don't get me like the fuck.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I do call you that in real life sometimes.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Not sometimes.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Normally I call you babe.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Or boyfriend.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so no.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was not completely unheard of in real life.
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was definitely out of character if it was real life.
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It was completely unheard of on the podcast.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a first.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I know, I'm sorry.
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I was like, what?
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you were just looking at me like the fuck.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm like, what are you, what are you doing?
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Honey, honey.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Honey, honey.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready to do your all-as-rong?
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: See, I started you off.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Now you're discombobbing me.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Why was arguing with my wife so I was definitely wrong right there.
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That was bad start.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, I guess if I'm always wrong, that's a good start.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just that mom.
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm wrong.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You're discombobulating that and flustered.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You're just setting me off with the right tone.
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Number one.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a short one.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: We only have three questions.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you know, Daniel's kind of like story form.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So these are all kind of like, and we're just going to have fun with it.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Number one, is it okay to drink alcohol?
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes or no.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are your choices.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with, um, uh, who know based on the people that came into town when, uh,
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: who was there was Jeremiah.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was, he was praising the people.
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I came up with the name of the tribe was, but they didn't drink and they, they were saying.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was specific.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, look, I think that, I know people drink that work out.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They so obviously people did it, but I feel like maybe it's not right?
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, in numbers, uh, the nasorates like in numbers chapter six, the nasorates were not supposed to drink.
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in Isaiah chapter 28, the pre-sum profits were not supposed to drink.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in Daniel, um, you know, who has got one of God's favorite people right?
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: In chapter one, he's like, no, thank you.
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not supposed to drink.
[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just certain people that.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Proverbs warns us all about drinking alcohol in chapter 20 and chapter 23.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that was more don't drink it to excess.
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's the words that get tossed around mostly, but they definitely, there is a stigma associated with drinking.
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, when, me and you were getting married, uh, there was a minute when my parents were thinking about not coming to our reception,
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and because there would be alcohol there.
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And we were like, what?
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: What?
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, there are Christians who think that the Bible says don't drink.
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't, whatever.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you, you can think that if you want to, you and then might even say that, but like,
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But then we're also going to show that they are also always wrong.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: In addition to Proverbs mentioning, don't do it.
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Is they also warns us about drinking alcohol in chapters 5 and 28.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: God, why doesn't the Bible warn us about heroin?
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It hadn't been invented yet.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's God.
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: God should know about that.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: God didn't talk to people about things that they wouldn't know nothing about.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't impact his people.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He knew he just kept it to himself for reasons.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, uh, so magic mushroom is just grow wild.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it where they're looking?
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Did God have, did God approve those? Is that what?
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Do they grow as a dog?
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: When he went, I doubt it.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I know they're out west.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly have no idea.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But they existed on the planet and God made the planet.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So they existed in that time.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But much like heroin, if it didn't grow where his chosen people were, it didn't impact
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: them.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is the reason God doesn't mention things.
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the people.
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the, that's the apologists perspective.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The reason that God doesn't talk to his people about things that he should know about
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: is not that he didn't know about them.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that he didn't, um, he didn't drown his people in information that they didn't
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: need to know.
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So he also didn't talk to them about Netflix and chill or, uh, Facebook, right?
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_02]: How boomer should stay off of it and stuff like that.
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But guess what, dear.
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, dear.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What?
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You're always wrong.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because guess what?
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course you can drink alcohol.
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Proverbs.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I was hate quoting Proverbs because that's just like a collection of poems or whatever.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You just like kind of like the fake Bible.
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It is in my opinion.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like here's a bunch of collections of shit.
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't know we're else to put on.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's neither history nor story.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why in Jewish books they call it, it falls in the writings.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what it is.
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Stuff.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the poetry section of the Bible.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, people describe a lot of meaning to those, especially in Christianity.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how we do.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much meaning is described to them in Judaism because I don't really, like,
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't ever hear about those from a Jewish person.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We're only here about the Tenak and then history.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And really hear about the writings.
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't hear a lot about the prophets, honestly.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be an interesting discussion.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like like it's just talking about the things that are in the Jewish text and how their take on them differ from Christian version.
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we know that there are different things that you guys have a lot of the same stuff.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a few things that you have that they don't advice for.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But that is even a different matter than, but how do you feel about those things?
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like when you start a new job, right?
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And you get the company handbook.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So you know going in with all the rules are.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't know the actual practice and feeling of that.
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why you asked the next person next to you.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what really matters here?
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I know that this says that we wear pink on Wednesdays, but like how strict is that?
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Or like sometimes you'll go to a place and they're like you absolutely have to wear black pants.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And they stress that at the fucking interview.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So you go in thinking, oh my god, I need to go get black pants.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And so then you go shopping and you buy like three or four pair of black pants.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You're walking.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You the only fucking person wearing black pants.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, oh, we don't take that seriously.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, then what the fuck?
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's knowing the rules and there's knowing what's in the Bible.
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But then there's the, but how do you feel about that?
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: How are these rules actually practice?
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like don't murder and don't run a red light.
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are both rules.
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But we take don't murder a lot more seriously.
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you get punished a lot more hardcore than the don't run a red light.
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you get in trouble.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you don't.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to be fair, I've run a red light in downtown Dayton.
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You did accidentally.
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't drive cities very well.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: There's too many fucking lights.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you look ahead of you.
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm looking at like two lights ahead of you.
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I missed the one that's like right there.
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And also you have turned down the one wake when the wrong way.
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: More than once.
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: More than once.
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what mean the car.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So I only, I shuttered to think how bad you are if not in the car.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But am I, or am I not generally?
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Other than cities downtowns.
[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Other than downtowns, you are the, by far, safest driver.
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I know besides kid.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Either one of you, I feel perfectly safe and comfortable being the passenger.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm a nervous passenger.
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't navigate downtowns very well.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's too much input.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's too much.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It's over it's overload.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're heard your ADHD.
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably, yeah.
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about how yeah drinking is fine and
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Proverbs says that wine is a gift from God.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And chapter nine of Proverbs.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And then God actually likes to have a little dranky poo too.
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Does he?
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: According to Exodus chapter 29 numbers chapter 15 and judges chapter nine.
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He likes to get his drink on.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the Bible tells us to drink abundantly with our four skins uncovered in
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_02]: some of soul men chapter five, which I forgot.
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Four skins uncovered.
[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Cox out, rock out with your cock out.
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Haven't you ever heard that?
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I have.
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a Bible.
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Look out with your cock out.
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know the original was yeah.
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's in song of soul men.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, everybody knows that.
[00:11:37] God.
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is this Bible is so fucking weird.
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it just really is hang on to that thought because since we only have three
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: questions for today, I saw something that took me down a rabbit hole like you know,
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you follow the link and then you read a thing and it made me laugh.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Hold onto that thought.
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Rock out with your cock out and four skins uncovered as you drink.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Number two.
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What kind of animals may we eat?
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's your choices.
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Your choices.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: None.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It depends or any.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go, wow.
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: There's three choices.
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a weird.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So there must be three.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with depends.
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, there was definitely the clothing hoof stuff and all that.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you want them about to say, yeah, according to do do do
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Rotomy and Leviticus don't eat animals that chew the cudd or divide the hoof.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, obviously you're right.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But guess what?
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay.
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You're always wrong.
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So now what's your answer?
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: What kind of animals may we eat none or any?
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with any, I guess because it's like why would we not be able to eat animals?
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, under me.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, God agrees because like after the flood in Genesis vegan days were done and over.
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Eat what you like.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in due to Rotomy chapter 12, God gives permission to eat all the animals.
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They literally keep like, you know, animals to eat and flock.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like they have them all over the place.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They slide them for their God.
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But guess what?
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You are still always wrong.
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I call bullshit on that because guess what kind of animals we may eat.
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I have what kind?
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: None.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand.
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember this.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I've already been to Genesis Proverbs and the book of Daniel.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The fuck you should only eat no animals.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to go over this with me because I missed this.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand what this is.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, in Genesis before the flood, it was like, you know, everything grows in the planet for you.
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to sure.
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to kill to eat.
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Was this it was this because they were taking on animals that they can't eat onto the ark?
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably, I don't know.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like that was like circumstantial.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I all in the way is that prior to the flood, he was like, don't eat animals.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But after the flood, he was like, you could eat some animals.
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But that could have been circumstantial because there's only two of you every animal.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't want to eat the fucking meat.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to eat any of them.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But that would be problematic.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But after the flood, when they all got off the ark, he was like, fine, eat the fucking animals.
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Which you would think would still be problematic.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It would be more problematic because when they were like, just, you know, living in town or like hurting their animals or even prior to that garden of eating or whatever.
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: They were vegetarian.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: They remember how quickly cane populated the world.
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, it should apparently happen so quick, you know?
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I have to wonder like if it wasn't nine months of pregnancy.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it went from him and his mom to like cities and no place.
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It was cities.
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So gross.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And so then, Proverbs again, I hate to quote as it says there.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But it does.
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: This is be vegan.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not it doesn't use the word vegan, but it says don't eat meat bitch.
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What does it say exactly?
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't eat meat bitch.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It does not say don't eat meat.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Meep bitch.
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You're wrong this time.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I did not copy down the exact phrase because you have told me in the past that I put too many quotes in these episodes.
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I see, but I was curious.
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know about the which, which passage did I do?
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even write in the passage.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Not on this one because.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Shit.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Because there were three different answers.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And so for I wasn't going to write them out.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I just think this is really a three question you can listen.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You give me instructions and I follow them.
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You make complaints and I change the format to make you happy.
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sorry.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I am always wrong.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in Daniel, it's not that it tells us don't eat meat.
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just that Daniel is like, oh no.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We can't eat meat.
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I don't necessarily think that's the best example.
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that Daniel was turning down.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Nebuchadnezzar's meat.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That was again, circumstances.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It had been sacrificed or blessed to another God.
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Now we don't know that.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That was something that was suggested in one of our Q&A episodes as to why he would have turned down.
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Nebuchadnezzar's food from his table.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:16:37] All right.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And the answer was because it had probably already been blessed to his to Nebuchadnezzar's God.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But it doesn't say that though.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So Daniel was like, no, no, no, we don't eat meat.
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And like told the guard, can we just let do veg?
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Just let us do it for a week.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I remember that.
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But again, but again, that was.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a very critical approach.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a very critical approach.
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a very critical approach.
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just did it.
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a song to the proverb.
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You said the other one was in songs.
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm sorry, proverb.
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I just did a search for both, just to see if I could come up with the passage.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I am curious.
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I found it.
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It is provar's chapter 23 verse 20.
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And it says, be not among wide, wide, wide bibbers.
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I guess people that drink a lot of wine is sure.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Among right is eaters of flesh.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But wouldn't, okay.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So right is eaters of flesh though.
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't be eaten that flesh.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Ramp of right is seems to indicate that you shouldn't over indulge.
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily not eat at all.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess it depends on does the adjective right is belong to the eaters of flesh?
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Or does it belong to the eaters who are happening to eat flesh?
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it right as eaters, you know, a flesh?
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is it right as eaters of flesh?
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know.
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't feel like this is a questionable.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm always wrong.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're right.
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Fair enough.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I've changed name of this episode.
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was a little happy to write you know?
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't go that far.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, there were several different answers to what kind of meat you can eat.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And mostly you should either not or be very discretionary about what kind of meat you eat.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And don't do it in large quantity.
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, according to the Bible, not according to the Bible.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, no.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't be riotous.
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll get that turkey leg at the ren fair.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I did, too.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that was the whole reason I wanted to go to the ren fair.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I needed to walk around with a giant turkey leg.
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you know what's soft?
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't even taste that good.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it tasted like ham.
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I was I was I was I was I thought it was good, but I you know,
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I was not expecting to bite into a leg of ham.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it tasted like ham and it didn't taste like it was fully cooked to me.
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I wanted some kind of things giving turkey leg.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, sure.
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was expecting to bite into turkey.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It was not that.
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it was turkey.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It almost felt like a mixture of meat.
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It was really weird.
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it was a big leg of something.
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely was.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But it did not taste like turkey.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was very distraught because that's like all I wanted.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: We went the year that they had a tardis.
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They did.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And we got pictures of kid in their cousin.
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_02]: My sister's youngest with with one of the doctors.
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was just a random person.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was the doctor and I don't want to hear your bullshit.
[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and it was the real tardis.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That happened.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what happened there.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to hear your bullshit.
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: The actual doctor with the actual tardis.
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We're literally here criticizing the Bible.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but I'm aware that I'm pretending.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, when pressed, I'm admitting it.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But this is my world and in my world, that sound that the tardis makes is wondrous.
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever hear that story of the girl who was like a sleep in her car in a parking garage?
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: She was like between meetings or something.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And she was just like resting her eyes and napping.
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And her windows were down and all of a sudden.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She heard the sound of the tardis and she woke up and like leaped out of her car and screamed,
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: wait, I'm here.
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But it was just somebody's ringtone.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's hilarious.
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see that.
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: The internet.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It was something that was going around on Facebook for a while.
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Think was.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But I understand that.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that was put on.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that was like a set of hair.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because I could totally.
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I could totally see me doing that.
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm coming out of a sleep and okay, like okay.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The other night right?
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I had this nightmare that this giant spider was on me.
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the size of like a kitten.
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And to the point that like I can still imagine how it's claw felt through my through the blanket and through
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: my shirt.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And so in my sleep, I was calling for a kid to come help me to get this thing off of me and
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like very proud of myself because I was like not panicking.
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I was being very still because I did not want this son of a bitch spider to like kill me.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And the only problem is that I have a sleep paralysis where sometimes as I'm coming
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: out of a wake, my mind wakes before my body even though my mind is still in a dream state.
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So my mind was trying to force my mouth to move and of course my mouth wouldn't move because
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: my body was frozen in sleep state.
[00:22:26] Yeah.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I've done this often enough that I was aware.
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm dreaming.
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So instead of continuing to try to force my mouth to move, I rolled quickly off of the bed and through
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: the blanket across the room so that when I did wake up, I was like on the floor kind of
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: days like wait, was there a spider?
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And like logically I knew there's no fucking spider that big and leisure in Australia.
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was shaking out the blankets but my point to that very long, irrelevant stupid story is
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that when I'm coming out of a sleep and I have just dreamt something that feels real or that
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: feels like something that I want to be true, right?
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It can feel real so I could see that happening.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, to your story, I actually had something laying on me tonight and a land of
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: my fucking forehead and I was a stink bug when I didn't know that before I squished it
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm fucking forehead.
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That was terrible.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry that happened to you.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It was terrible.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's sad.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's stuck.
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because of the stink bug, yeah.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But why do the why do the stink bug have to land on my forehead?
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not fair.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not fair.
[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not fair.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean yesterday I tripped walking up concrete stuff.
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not fair either.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And not only did I trip going up concrete steps, the thing that I was going like kid was taking
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: me out for boba tea.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_02]: When I finally got my legs under me, it turns out that the place we were going was closed
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: for I can't remember this word.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It was close.
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Renovation.
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I keep wanting to see reconstruction.
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was close for renovation.
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I broke my legs for nothing.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But you did end up getting boba tea.
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, because me and kid went somewhere else.
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying, yeah, I feel he was not fair.
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get anything for a squish and a stink bug on my forehead.
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you cleaned your face and got the stink bug off of him.
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There is that.
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was, yeah.
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I still don't feel like that's a fair trade-off.
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But you weren't going somewhere in the first place.
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I wasn't.
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You were just standing there.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, that's not the same.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not the same at all.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I got boba because that's what I was going for.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So number three.
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Is death final?
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a hard one.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Your choices are yes or no.
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I know.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with my perspective and that's that.
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is absolutely final.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, of course you're right because in Joshua chapter 23,
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: they mentioned that the dead are going the way of all the earth.
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in Isaiah chapter 26, it says they are dead.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: They shall not live.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: They are deceased.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They shall not rise.
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I mean, we got this in Psalms and Job and Ecclesiastes.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Those writings is, I lumped them all into one little group where they mentioned
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_02]: that is dead bitches.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But then I also know you're always wrong.
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We end up talking about fucking zombies.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We get zombies.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you got the empty items and it's by.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We have zombies up in here.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Zombies for days.
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember how I said just now that in Isaiah chapter 26,
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it says they are dead.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: They shall not live.
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: They have deceased.
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: They shall not rise.
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Guess what?
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Just kidding.
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: In that same fucking verse.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Or I'm sorry that same fucking chapter, not verse.
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: The same chapter.
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It says the dead men shall live together with my dead body.
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Shall they rise?
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking zombies.
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in Ezekiel chapter 37,
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it says, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves.
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And bring you into the land of Israel.
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking zombies.
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in Daniel, which is the whole point of this,
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: chapter 12, it says,
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting content.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the time we talked about how that was kind of a weird.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a newer way of talking about that too.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, relating to afterlife and, essentially.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a, it's a more modern, with regard to the Bible.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a more modern take on the Christian.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Which makes sense because it's closer to Christian times.
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But we still talking about zombies though.
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like whatever.
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking dead people walking around.
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I can do it.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: How about that?
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a great.
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's all the questions that I have.
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But I promised a joke.
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. So one of the links that I read,
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: let me to another link to another link to another link.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And I came across something that said,
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: what does Jesus have written on his testicles?
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I'm sorry. What?
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. Here's the thing.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I know we're not here yet, but just something to hold onto.
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: In the book of Revelation, which is the final book of the New Testament.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So the last book of the entire Bible.
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, we're not there yet.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Not in close.
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a verse in there that says, and he has on his vester and on his thigh,
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: a name written king of kings and lord of lords.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, what a thigh is in the Bible.
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Right.
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So, okay. So this is a whole conversation.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And this guy says, okay. I'm not so sure about this.
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus might not have anything written on his testicles,
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but he does have something written on his thigh.
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: At least if you believe the book of Revelation.
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he says, but since thigh is a biblical euphemism for
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: testicle, it may literally be that Jesus has king of kings and lord of lords.
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Tattered on his testicles or, you know, his scrotum or whatever.
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't that be so cool?
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: All bet he has king of kings on one side and lord of lords on the other.
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I see.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the type.
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And then, okay.
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So then somebody, or I'm sorry, he went on to say and it would go well
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: with the rest of his outfit.
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he describes more Jesusy stuff which I'm not going to be sure.
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, we're not there yet.
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Right.
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But then somebody commented on that.
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that's scary.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So on judgment day, you'll know it's Jesus if some scary fella
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: tea bags you and he's writing on a sack.
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And then somebody said, one if the Magdalene has a tramp stamp
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to, uh, okay.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No, we should we can make it a thing.
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, like if enough people will leave that Jesus had these things
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: tattooed on his balls maybe Christians are going to start getting their balls tattooed.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You should have seen all of the Christians commenting how horrible this was
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're like, dude, I'm just reading the fucking Bible.
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. Yeah.
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Literally, it says this and we all know that thime and then Christians were like,
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Where does it say that thime?
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: What I was about to say, the Christians don't know a goddamn thing about what their Bible says.
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So, or what I mean, is there anything?
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is it doesn't say that thime actually means test degree.
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You would have to actually study outside of the Bible and they frown on that.
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, study outside the Bible and understand the translations as they come down through time
[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and everything like that.
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Exactly.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And what they would say instead of you're fucking nuts that.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. Yeah.
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody else said, could this tattoo be what Catholic priests
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: is elously look for when hiring a new altar boy?
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh Jesus.
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That's horrible.
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. That is horrible.
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You can edit that out if you want them.
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That might be a step too far.
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It is we're going to leave it in but damn.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah.
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So those were those were the jokes that I found that I had to share just because
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I had I had Dick on the brain.
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, will because earlier because it said you know, the whole rock out with your
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Cockout thing.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Sure. Yeah.
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And four skins.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_02]: As your drink and your alcohol, you got to drink it surrounded by four skins.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't want to be around the bush.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You just kind of stopped Dicking around and you don't pull it up the joke.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You cracked it open.
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, enough enough that.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So do you got anything else for us today?
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not that was the way too far.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Way too many.
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was our contradictions episode.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And that means we are done with Daniel.
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck Daniel all the way to Mars and back.
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully Josiah is better.
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Josiah.
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's saying?
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: One of them dudes.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know whatever.
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You were like mixing like Jeremiah with whatever.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're doing either.
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Isaiah and Jeremiah Josiah.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like a, there's like a,
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Mighty Morphin power Rangers.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to come together to whatever.
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we all know that my brain can't hold too many things at once.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still I'm still stuck on four skins.
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't be expected to get the name who's like Jose is straight when
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking about Dix.
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that.
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's all we got today guys.
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck us.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back at Walgap the weekly wrap up out here.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, no, be on.
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We saw them.
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They were going to do a book club.
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Right. Sorry.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So book club on Sunday and then we get wrap up out.
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And then on Monday, we'll be back with.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: For skins, chapter one.
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Jose, chapter one.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I would look wife literally gave a blank stare for a minute.
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Even after we just said the name of the book of the Bible.
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I just had to point that out.
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Well.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Guys have a good day.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Good boy.
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.