Ezekiel Chapter 16: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:01:47] Do you remember what happened last week and where the hell we are today? Well, the last time we did an episode we were in Ezekiel chapter 15

[00:01:59] Sure as fuck were and in that episode God was talking about

[00:02:04] Vines and they're worthless and their worthlessness. Yeah, it was it was kind of I don't know

[00:02:10] I wasn't real happy with I mean like I like vines vines are fun fucking vines

[00:02:14] Yeah, I was thinking about it afterwards, you know, there are some good applications for vines

[00:02:18] You could like use them to weave, you know baskets or there's things you could do with them

[00:02:22] But God was apparently according to Ezekiel

[00:02:26] comparing vines to you know, like the

[00:02:30] Ability for them to not have any purpose. Yeah, I don't know. I lost my thread of they don't fire good

[00:02:38] Yeah, they don't well

[00:02:40] They burn just fine, but you can't they don't you they can't make pigs out of them

[00:02:44] You can't you know use them to build buildings and stuff like that

[00:02:46] So there were there worthless, but then God's gonna like destroy

[00:02:50] the people just like the vines and

[00:02:53] And their worthlessness and they're gonna make them even more worthless

[00:02:56] Hmm, and I thought that was a really shitty way to

[00:02:59] Talk about your people that you like and stuff. So ashes are awesome. Sure. Yeah, so anyway, that was Ezekiel chapter 15

[00:03:07] It was which means that today we're getting into is Ezekiel chapter 16. All right, let's do this Okie-dokie

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[00:04:43] All right, here we are hop it into Ezekiel chapter 16. Okay, and

[00:04:48] This is the longest chapter of Ezekiel fun

[00:04:52] So I wanted to give some notes beforehand

[00:04:55] Okay, all right this chapter has been referred to as an Old Testament parable of the prodigal daughter

[00:05:03] Okay, as it illustrates an ungrateful Jerusalem in contrast to God's enduring love

[00:05:08] Oh

[00:05:10] It's all sorry. I'm sorry and during that's that's he's fucked as a fucked up way to describe this because I know

[00:05:17] I should so much no no no no forever not at all. Yeah, no

[00:05:22] This chapter is often linked to Ezekiel 23 which were not yet

[00:05:27] But that chapter also deals with two daughters

[00:05:31] Symbolizing the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Okay?

[00:05:34] Okay, yep, and as I said this is the longest chapter in Ezekiel and the story deals with Israel

[00:05:41] Sorted loathsome character so that God's infinite

[00:05:45] Abhorrence of her sin may be clearly seen. He's gonna trash them

[00:05:50] Okay, yeah, and more so than usual. Yes

[00:05:54] Listen to this it's so bad that according to one rabbi in the Mishnah

[00:06:00] The chapter is not to be read nor translated in public Wow, it's dirty Wow dirty AF

[00:06:08] That's that's exciting. That's why I like that. That's why I think you're probably gonna love this

[00:06:14] Okay, yeah, so we're gonna talk now about how much Jerusalem is a dirty whore sure

[00:06:20] Yeah, sounds great. All right now that I've set the stage

[00:06:23] Hey chapter 16 the word of the Lord came to me did it again as it does. Yeah, son of man

[00:06:31] Yeah, mere human your worm confront Jerusalem with her detestable practices and say

[00:06:37] This is what the sovereign Lord says to Jerusalem your ancestry and birth were in the land of the Canaanites

[00:06:45] Your father was an amorite and your mother a hitchhike

[00:06:50] This is this reminds me of what is your and your

[00:06:54] Your this reminds me of that taunting session in Monty Python

[00:06:59] Yes, your mother smelled of elderberries or whatever the hell it's all that

[00:07:03] Yo mama Joe that is hilarious

[00:07:05] Yes on the day you were born your cord was not cut

[00:07:10] Nor were you washed with water to make you clean

[00:07:14] Nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths

[00:07:18] No one looked on you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for you

[00:07:24] Rather you were thrown out into the open field for on the day you were born. You were despised

[00:07:30] So wait a second. God is responsible for all of humanity, right?

[00:07:35] Mm-hmm, and he's saying that the day they were born which he's I mean he's referring to Jerusalem, right as a whole kind of yeah

[00:07:42] But these are his people

[00:07:44] He's saying he's saying that from the day they were born. They were despised. Yeah, but he hasn't he has

[00:07:51] Complete contempt for this group of people. Yeah, even though they are his chosen people, right?

[00:07:56] But that's just crazy. Yeah, basically what he's saying is that this ancient nation began life as a

[00:08:04] hated mix a hated people of mixed blood and mixed culture and it was like an

[00:08:11] Unwanted baby girl thrown out at birth and left to die

[00:08:15] Jesus that's but we've talked about this before too like the whole story of Moses and everything

[00:08:20] That probably never happened right like they were actually

[00:08:25] Probably just descendants of Canaanites and then Amorites and the whole nine yards, right?

[00:08:30] And this is kind of touching on that actually like yes, that is what they are

[00:08:34] They are descendants of Canaanites and Amorites and the whole nine yards. Yeah, so

[00:08:39] Like he's like you're nasty fucks, but who cares right right?

[00:08:44] Like I mean if you want them to be better teach them to be better if you you're a fucking God do do fucking God shit

[00:08:50] You know like be a God so he carries on he says then I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood

[00:08:58] And as you lay there in your blood. I said to you live

[00:09:02] I made you grow like a plant of the field you grew and developed an entered puberty

[00:09:09] Your breasts had formed and your hair had grown yet. You were stark naked

[00:09:15] Okay, later. I passed by and when I looked at so he admits that he left her

[00:09:20] Yeah, right after two left a naked chick. Why he wasn't there when they were born apparently

[00:09:25] He's not there later like he's not paying much fucking attention

[00:09:27] Walk in the earth doing his god thing of ignoring everything. Yeah. Yeah later

[00:09:32] I passed by and when I looked at you and I saw that you were old enough for love

[00:09:36] I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your naked body

[00:09:41] I gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you declares the sovereign Lord and you became mine I

[00:09:50] Bathe you with water and wash the blood from you and put ointments on you

[00:09:55] I clothed you with an embroidered dress and put sandals of fine leather on you

[00:10:01] I dressed you in fine linen and covered you with costly garments. Okay, Lee to me. It's like thank you

[00:10:08] I'm not sure I asked for all that shit, but okay, right?

[00:10:12] I mean, I guess

[00:10:13] He's he's saying that at some point he tried to take the reins and teach them

[00:10:18] Like I'm giving you the tools to be better or something like that

[00:10:21] You were an adult to step in I guess yeah

[00:10:25] But it to me smacks a lot of what the whole Jesus thing is like I died for your sins like dude cool

[00:10:32] I guess but I didn't ask for all that right

[00:10:35] I'm just over here trying to live. Yeah, like no no need to step in please unless it's you know for good

[00:10:42] Yeah, do some good. Let's see you do good, right? I

[00:10:46] Adorned you with jewelry

[00:10:47] I put bracelets on your arms and a necklace around your neck and I put a ring on your nose

[00:10:53] Earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. So you were adorned with gold and silver, you know material things

[00:11:00] Yeah, right. I decorated you and made you pretty in

[00:11:05] Material things because you weren't perfect the way I made you right according to God. Yeah, right here

[00:11:10] Yeah, right? Yeah, like you weren't ugly piece of shit

[00:11:12] Yeah, and I had to make you pretty what you would just weren't good enough

[00:11:15] So yeah, I had to do had to make you better. Mm-hmm. I guess I had to decorate you with fine pieces of

[00:11:22] Material insane much for God right God is you know supposed to be able to be this perfect being that can create perfect things

[00:11:30] And so the things that he created were by his own definition not perfect, right?

[00:11:35] Exactly and he's having to you know make them better apparently and we're supposed to feel grateful for that at some level

[00:11:41] I guess thank you for putting jewelry on me. So I'm not ugly anymore. I guess right. Yeah, like I didn't feel ugly till you

[00:11:48] Told me I was yeah

[00:11:51] Your clothes were a fine linen and costly fabric and embroidered cloth

[00:11:56] Your food was honey olive oil and the finest flower

[00:12:00] You became very beautiful and rose to be a queen. I became very beautiful after you decorated me

[00:12:07] Yeah, thank you for that. Yeah, and your fame spread among the nations on account of your beauty

[00:12:13] Because the splendor I had given you made your beauty perfect declares the sovereign Lord

[00:12:20] Yeah, you were ugly, but then I came along and put a crown on your head. I made you pretty

[00:12:26] Fuck you you arrogant fuck

[00:12:29] But you trusted in your beauty and used your fame to become a prostitute. Oh

[00:12:36] You lavished your favors on anyone who passed by and your beauty became his I mean

[00:12:42] This is him talking about them worshiping other idols and other gods and yada yada yada

[00:12:47] Yeah, and but again, I'm gonna go back to the things that we've constantly talked about and that's that there is

[00:12:54] No point at which he sends a reliable witness to himself, right?

[00:12:59] He refuses to speak up on his own behalf

[00:13:01] Right, he refuses to teach anyone how to operate himself

[00:13:06] he instead sends unreliable people to teach these things for him and

[00:13:11] Hope that other people take these messages in and accept them

[00:13:17] Moreover on a very

[00:13:21] Esoteric level. He's slut shaming. Yeah, and I'm like, sorry I can worship who I want that that's free will

[00:13:28] I can fuck who my pleas that's free. Well, yeah

[00:13:31] and yeah, if you if you aren't as

[00:13:35] Powerful and as as great as you say you are then there's no reason for us to worship you in the first place

[00:13:40] Mm-hmm

[00:13:41] If you are that great then we would know to worship you I would think and if I want to fuck other people

[00:13:46] I can fuck other people. Definitely. You're not matter how fucking great you are. Yeah

[00:13:51] You took some of your garments to make gaudy high places where you carried on your prostitution

[00:13:58] You went to him and he possessed your beauty

[00:14:02] Let me rephrase that for you God

[00:14:04] I fucked and nobody possessed me right because I'm a free agent and I can do what I want and

[00:14:12] Nobody owns me. Right. I'm no one's possession. Yeah

[00:14:16] You also took the fine jewelry I gave you which apparently came with strings attached because you're gonna

[00:14:23] Complain I see after this comma about what I did with them. Yeah, I'm sorry

[00:14:28] Did you give them or did you loan them? Right, right? The jewelry made of my golden silver

[00:14:35] Why does God have golden silver? I don't know me golden. I really don't I don't know

[00:14:41] Like he's complained about having golden silver as you know things in the past

[00:14:45] So maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure we could find a place where he

[00:14:49] Wanted people to get rid of his their golden silver because you know, it's supposed to be just about him

[00:14:53] so it's funny that there are things that he is pushing out there as

[00:14:59] Adornments that are good for his people right which is kind of funny, right?

[00:15:05] You made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them

[00:15:12] Okay, it almost sounds like he's talking about using the golden silver to make sex toys

[00:15:19] Look sometimes women just need batteries that's all I'm saying there you yeah, right

[00:15:23] And you took your embroidered clothes to put on them and you offered my oil and incense before them

[00:15:30] Why is everything yours yours yours? Yeah, I don't know

[00:15:34] Also the food I provided for you the flour olive oil and honey. I gave you to eat

[00:15:40] You offered as fragrant incense before them

[00:15:45] Yeah

[00:15:46] But again, you know, you didn't really make it clear

[00:15:50] What you were and who you weren't these people and they were just worshiping whoever felt like was going to help them out

[00:15:57] So well not only that but it I think it's really silly to say that you gave them the shit that

[00:16:03] Grew in the land right like it grew in the land is why they went there

[00:16:09] Yeah, and moreover they were probably responsible for making those things themselves right grow more abundantly too

[00:16:15] So I mean I feel like that would be kind of a cut on their ability to

[00:16:20] Help themselves, you know

[00:16:23] This is what happened declares the sovereign Lord

[00:16:26] And I took your sons and daughters whom he bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols

[00:16:32] Was your prostitution not enough you slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols

[00:16:39] Hmm, and I mean yeah, don't do right right. No. Yeah

[00:16:43] That's the one thing that we have agreed on that was horrible

[00:16:46] Mm-hmm, but it wasn't horrible because it was another religion. It was horrible

[00:16:52] Regardless who was doing it right right and I

[00:16:56] Don't care what religion you are don't sacrifice your children. Yes. Yeah

[00:17:01] I think that we can all agree on that hopefully hopefully

[00:17:05] I know that there are certain

[00:17:08] sects of Christian who like to think that atheists eat babies right here to tell you y'all were eating the babies way more than I ever was

[00:17:16] We don't eat babies. No, no, we don't we don't okay? I mean your your own god is telling you that y'all ate babies

[00:17:25] Stop it, right, you know. Yeah, I never did any of that. So okay. I win

[00:17:32] In all your detestable practices and your prostitution

[00:17:36] You did not remember the days of your youth when you were naked and bare kicking about in your blood

[00:17:42] Whoa, whoa to you declares the sovereign Lord in addition to all your other wickedness

[00:17:49] You built a mound a mound for yourself and made a lofty shrine in every public square

[00:17:56] I thought that said pubic square

[00:18:02] At every street corner you built your lofty shrines and degraded your beauty

[00:18:08] Spreading your legs with increasing promiscuity to anyone who passed by. Oh, wow

[00:18:14] Yeah, stop spreading your legs. Yeah promiscuity, right? Don't don't do the sex yeah other people only with me, right?

[00:18:23] Like gross you engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians your neighbors with large genitals

[00:18:30] Rouse my anger with your increasing promiscuity

[00:18:34] why

[00:18:37] The enlarged genitals that's yeah, okay

[00:18:41] Is that I'm not sure what to say about so then their neighbors had had large genitals apparently yeah, yeah

[00:18:47] and

[00:18:48] God's like don't go fuck people with big dick right and I'm like

[00:18:52] But it was just this this book as he'll where God was flashing his dick to as he feel like multiple times

[00:18:58] Mm-hmm, so I mean I feel like he's kind of you know in on the whole you know

[00:19:03] dick thing

[00:19:07] Nothing gives

[00:19:09] Like little dick energy like talking about how other people have right yeah, maybe God's insecure right that that must be what it is

[00:19:16] I mean he's specifically calling out Egyptians as having large genitals, right?

[00:19:23] That's weird. Yeah, sorry that's in the Bible and that's weird it feels

[00:19:28] it feels

[00:19:30] similar to people

[00:19:34] Today like other cultures they'll say that they have big dicks

[00:19:39] You know I mean it's like it's a call

[00:19:41] It's somehow a cut on those other cultures

[00:19:44] somehow mean it as an insult at the same time that it's

[00:19:49] recognizing an

[00:19:50] sexually positive treat great great, right?

[00:19:54] I'm like but it's somehow meant as an insult in some degree

[00:19:59] It's supposed to mean like if you guys are known for having big dicks

[00:20:04] Then you're probably closer to animals than humans

[00:20:07] I think is what it's supposed to be right or the sexual promiscuousness of that

[00:20:11] You know something along those lines, but it's boiling down to I think and I'm like

[00:20:16] No, right there the same as us they people

[00:20:21] Regardless of the size of their dick get driver's licenses. Yes, you know can vote and you know

[00:20:29] Tiders shoelaces right, right?

[00:20:31] I

[00:20:32] Don't know what you're trying to say there, but it's weird. It is weird

[00:20:35] Let's just not talk about people's dicks maybe that would be ideal

[00:20:38] I think Lee I know I know that I talk about people's decks

[00:20:43] I do but to be fair the Bible kind of brings it up a lot, right?

[00:20:48] Like I mean there's a lot of dick in the Bible. Yeah, I'm just saying like it is everywhere

[00:20:53] It is everywhere and now specifically

[00:20:56] Specifically, yeah, they're talking about large dicks, you know the Egyptians. They got those big digs

[00:21:04] Yeah, I did right. Yeah if I was Israel that would be my response. Yeah, I did right goddamn, right

[00:21:10] I did. Yeah, so I stretched out my hand against you, you know me God and reduced your territory

[00:21:16] I gave you over to the greed of your enemies and the daughters of the Philistines who were shocked by your lewd conduct

[00:21:24] Were they I guess I mean that's what he's saying. So I guess they were shocked. I don't know

[00:21:30] I don't think they were shocked. No, no, okay. No, you engaged it in prostitution. Sorry. I have the hiccups

[00:21:37] You engaged in prostitution with the Assyrians too because you were insatiable. Oh

[00:21:46] She's a lusty prostitute

[00:21:48] Yum-yum and even after that you still were not satisfied

[00:21:53] Literally you just called her insatiable. Why would she be satisfied if she was insatiable? Right, right?

[00:22:01] And again, I'm gonna say I'm just gonna point this back out but God created these people

[00:22:05] These are God's people. Yeah, and he is angry at them for being who they are apparently, right?

[00:22:11] So he's like I hate it when my kids are lusty whores

[00:22:16] Well, that's part of what makes me so angry is that he is railing against quote-unquote his own people, right?

[00:22:23] these are these are his chosen people and

[00:22:27] He goes and yells at them all the time for being the people that they are right and he doesn't do anything except for sin

[00:22:34] Really really shitty messengers to tell them otherwise according to the Bible, you know and and they're supposed to change

[00:22:43] Based on what these idiots are telling them even though there's a lot of other idiots telling them different things, right?

[00:22:48] Like it makes no fucking sense. No, no and

[00:22:53] Anyway, you don't tell somebody that you love them by telling them how much you hate them, right, right gross

[00:22:59] Yeah

[00:23:00] Then you increased your promiscuity to include Babylonia a land of merchants, but even with this you were not satisfied

[00:23:10] Israel was quite the lusty whore

[00:23:12] I guess well, you know part of the reason that they ended up in Babylon and

[00:23:16] Assyria is an ant-Egypt for that matter in large part was because God drove them away

[00:23:21] Right according to God according to the Bible according to the you know cannon

[00:23:26] You know like that's that that's why they ended up there and a lot of the practices that are now

[00:23:31] Part of Christianity came from those other cultures because according to the Bible God drove them there, right?

[00:23:37] It's great. I mean the whole thing's nuts

[00:23:40] Like we believe things but not we not you and I right but Christians and and and

[00:23:46] Judaism believes things that are

[00:23:48] part of other cultures because and again according to the Bible God drove them there

[00:23:54] Right and made them part of those cultures. Yeah, it's

[00:23:58] Just it's all backwards. Yeah, so backwards, right?

[00:24:02] I am filled with fury against you declares the sovereign Lord when you do all these things acting like a brazen

[00:24:10] Prostitute, I mean I say better a brazen prostitute than a sneaky one, right?

[00:24:15] Yeah, for sure when you built your mounds at every street corner

[00:24:19] I made your lofty shrines and every public square you were unlike a prostitute because you scorned payment

[00:24:26] So even as a prostitute you weren't a prostitute cuz you didn't yeah, yeah, like that that's even now

[00:24:32] You can't really call them a prostitute, but that's even worse. He's saying you didn't

[00:24:38] Were you a prostitute? But you weren't a prostitute because you wouldn't even take payment

[00:24:42] You were fucking everybody for free in nasty. Oh, that's what he's saying. This is just you know

[00:24:47] This is like yeah, yeah, this is horrible you adulterous wife

[00:24:53] You prefer strangers to your own husband

[00:24:56] You know it would so again. We're talking about God here, right? So

[00:25:01] We're talking about someone who has not proven that they exist to any of these people

[00:25:06] Yeah, and and so it's it's hard to cheat on a quote-unquote husband, right that is not present

[00:25:12] I'm sorry. Basically. It's like

[00:25:16] Israel married a truck driver who didn't just go on the road for like a year but left for literal centuries

[00:25:23] Yeah, and so then came home and was like what's going on?

[00:25:27] You didn't wait and they're like I thought you were dead asshole, right?

[00:25:32] You didn't send a postcard. You didn't call nothing. Yeah, you were gone. Yeah, the fuck right? Yeah, I fucked

[00:25:40] I was looking for some other, you know dude

[00:25:44] I mean technically with the amount of time that God is gone

[00:25:46] You could I think legally have him pronounced dead right in any society that actually has some form of you know

[00:25:54] reasonable law based on how long you wait on somebody it sounds like that's what Israel did right

[00:25:59] Yeah, he declared him dead because he was missing as well. They should have right

[00:26:03] Yeah, so they were no longer married to you and we're free to fuck exactly whomever they so pleased

[00:26:08] That's how I see it and you come in home and rant and rave it and calling them names doesn't really make your case look good

[00:26:15] No, it does not all prostitutes receive gifts

[00:26:19] But you give gifts to all your lovers bribing them to come to you from everywhere for your illicit favors

[00:26:25] I just see them as generous

[00:26:28] I mean

[00:26:30] You're making it to where it's like how dare you fuck how dare you not charge for fucking

[00:26:35] How dare you fuck and give gifts, right?

[00:26:39] What I can I can make butter for somebody and I can fuck them. Yeah, you know, right get away

[00:26:45] Yeah, so in your prostitution you are the opposite of others

[00:26:50] No one runs after you for your favors. You are the very opposite for you give payment and none is given to you

[00:26:58] Okay, so I'm like please fuck me. Please so you mean wait, so I'm the man hiring

[00:27:04] Right prostitute is what I'm hearing. Okay for men to hire prostitutes, but not for women to hire prostitutes

[00:27:11] That tracks with a lot of the things in the Bible cuz that's what I'm hearing right

[00:27:15] Yeah, she was like I need sex somebody come fuck me, right? Yeah and paying for sex

[00:27:22] Yeah, yeah

[00:27:24] So that would meet the other countries the prostitutes and that would make Israel the customer, right?

[00:27:31] Yeah, right sounds about right. Yeah, so I mean I guess sure I mean

[00:27:38] This whole this whole exercise is of

[00:27:41] Discussing that way the game. No, I know but it's it's absolutely

[00:27:45] Because you notice he's calling prostitute or he's calling Israel a woman, right?

[00:27:50] Right if he was calling Israel a man

[00:27:53] Then the man would be praised for all the sex that he got that is true, right? That is actually true

[00:27:58] Yeah, yeah, and he would be like damn and you got it for free fuck. Yeah, you're winning right right

[00:28:06] No, he's on purpose calling her a woman and is like you are having other people

[00:28:12] Because misogyny and the Bible and it's you know just ever ever present as part of the narrative

[00:28:17] See that's why I'm playing the game because it's a bad fucking analogy, right? You know, no, it really is it really is

[00:28:25] Therefore you prostitute hear the word of the Lord. He's like you fucking whore listen to me bitch, right?

[00:28:31] Hey, yeah, that always makes me want to sit up and listen

[00:28:34] Yeah, no like that instantly makes my eyebrows shoot all the way up to the top of my head and be like excuse you

[00:28:41] Right. Yeah, you called me what? Yeah, I'm not listening to a goddamn thing. You have to say. Yeah

[00:28:47] This is what the sovereign Lord says

[00:28:50] Because you poured out your lust and exposed your naked body in your promiscuity with your lovers and

[00:28:59] because of all your detestable idols and because you gave them your children's blood

[00:29:05] Therefore I am gonna gather all your lovers with whom you found pleasure those you loved as well as those you hated

[00:29:13] Okay, what give me the people I hated yeah, what's dumb where's he going with this?

[00:29:18] I will gather them against you from all around and will strip you in front of them and they will see you stark naked

[00:29:26] Okay

[00:29:26] So this this is a reference back to like him destroying Jerusalem, right?

[00:29:30] So like essentially we're going back to that where he's going to lay them bear in front of all the neighbors because

[00:29:37] He's trying to punish them and show them as an example of what not to do etc etc etc and

[00:29:44] It's just more it this is a different way of saying the exact same thing

[00:29:48] We've been saying right throughout this whole book thus far is that Jerusalem's fucked God's gonna send people to kill them

[00:29:55] It's gonna make them look horrible in front of their neighbors

[00:29:57] And he's gonna exile them forever and ever and ever amen whatever

[00:30:01] now we're

[00:30:03] slut-shaming and

[00:30:05] Making fun of women's bodies and stuff yeah, cuz why not let's just throw in an extra layer of shittiness on top of the shittiness that we

[00:30:12] Already have exactly like let's just make sure that we disparage women to the nth degree

[00:30:18] Because why not we can it's the Bible. That's what we do here, right exactly

[00:30:22] Yeah, because honestly you're gonna strip me down and shame me in front of people

[00:30:27] Yeah, like the only one that should be ashamed is the person that's stripping me right regardless of what I've done

[00:30:33] I don't deserve to be stripped down. Fuck you and that's I think the biggest argument that I have about

[00:30:39] This whole religious idea that is God and the Old Testament thus far is that God needs some fucking therapy

[00:30:47] like God is not correct God is

[00:30:51] Obviously a human male in the you know the year whatever thousands of years ago

[00:30:59] Writing this bullshit because they have no concept of what it means to actually be an equitable human who treats people with

[00:31:06] compassion and empathy and

[00:31:08] Like it's none of that is there because they don't have the capacity for it at that point in time

[00:31:14] so of course the God that they create is going to reflect that right and

[00:31:18] That wouldn't be problematic because sure they all did that back then right the problem is that

[00:31:24] No, but we still are having some people believe that way to this day and enact laws around it

[00:31:31] And that's where the that's why we are here railing against this because these ideas are still in that same fucking book

[00:31:37] Right, and they're still being used to destroy people today

[00:31:42] They're still being used to enact judgment on other human beings today

[00:31:47] And these are ideas that are so far

[00:31:50] Removed from what should be in a progressive society that they don't even hardly deserve comment except that they still exist in the year

[00:31:59] 2024

[00:32:01] We should 100% across the board be reading this and laughing at it at its quaintness at its

[00:32:09] Oldness at its ridiculousity, right and instead you and I are reading it and

[00:32:16] Making fun of it and laughing at it and other people are just looking at us like we're the dumb-dumbs and telling us you just don't get it

[00:32:25] And your heart's not open

[00:32:27] Yeah, and God has a plan and it's justified because dot dot dot and that's the fucking problem

[00:32:33] Right because we that is exactly the problem

[00:32:36] We should all be looking at this with the ridiculousness that it deserves right read it for what it is it is

[00:32:43] Exactly what it is. It's fucking stupid and childish and backwards and sexist and racist

[00:32:48] Right, and we wonder where this stuff stems from in our society and it's right there in front of us. Yep I

[00:32:53] Will sentence you to the punishment of women who commit adultery and who shed blood

[00:33:00] Okay, no not period

[00:33:02] Yeah, it's rough. I will bring on you the blood vengeance of my wrath and jealous anger

[00:33:09] The blood vengeance what's the blood? I don't know but it sounds bad. It doesn't sound good

[00:33:14] Not that anything he says is good, but you know, okay

[00:33:17] Blood vengeance draw blood or are we talking about like?

[00:33:21] Sounds like some sort of magical raid or something. You know cuz when he said shed blood

[00:33:25] I instantly was thinking menstruation

[00:33:27] But then he was like blood vengeance and I'm like hold on are we talking about

[00:33:33] Period cycles or are we talking about like war with swords?

[00:33:37] In this chapter, so I'm sure there's a little bit more to it than that but you know

[00:33:42] All right

[00:33:43] I will bring on you the blood vengeance of my wrath and jealous anger

[00:33:48] Then I will deliver you into the hands of your lovers and they will tear down your mounds and

[00:33:54] Destroy your lofty shrines

[00:33:57] They will strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry and leave you start naked. Oh my god

[00:34:03] I thought you already sent me naked

[00:34:06] They will bring a mob against you who will stone you and hack you to pieces with their swords Jesus Christ

[00:34:13] That sounds fun. Thank you Lord. I love I know

[00:34:16] I know they're gonna get taken over in and conquered but like hack you to pieces right those words like

[00:34:22] Literally the words hack you to pieces is in the fucking Bible, right?

[00:34:26] Talking to his own people right allowing it to happen. Yeah. Thank you God. That's not what the fuck

[00:34:33] I praise you like I should

[00:34:36] They will burn down your houses and inflict punishment on you in the sight of many women

[00:34:43] I will put a stop to your prostitution and you will no longer pay your lovers

[00:34:48] Again, it wasn't my prostitution. I was the customer. Yeah, where the prostitute

[00:34:53] Then my wrath against you will subside and my jealous anger will turn away from you

[00:34:57] I will be calm and no longer angry. Oh, wow just has to hack you to pieces first and

[00:35:03] Yeah, embarrass the fuck out of you and kill you a lot

[00:35:06] And just have to strip you and make you do the naked booby dance in front of everybody

[00:35:10] Yeah, so I don't love you again, right?

[00:35:13] Because you did not remember the days of your youth but enraged me with all these things

[00:35:18] I will surely bring down on your head what you have done

[00:35:21] Declare as the sovereign Lord. Did you not add lewdness to all your other detestable practices?

[00:35:28] I mean, honestly the only thing that I have problems with here is the child sacrifice, right?

[00:35:35] Yeah, the rest of it is your choice man, you know like whatever

[00:35:39] When you like most what we rail against that the Bible inspires people of today to do is things that inflict

[00:35:47] Their ideas on other human beings, right?

[00:35:50] Harming others and thus like much of what we care about that the Israelites did

[00:35:56] That was bad that God uses bad are things that they inflicted on other people which was generally child sacrifice, right?

[00:36:02] That was that and when they ward against other other factions

[00:36:07] Those were the only times we really had issue with the Israelites themselves, right? So

[00:36:13] Yes

[00:36:14] When that it just like I can't stand it. So it's just it is what it is

[00:36:20] I was one I lost my complete train of thought

[00:36:23] Oh, I'm like looking at you when you're so I rate that you're like covering your eyes and you lost all your words

[00:36:29] Yeah, yeah, like everything sucks

[00:36:32] Basically

[00:36:33] Everyone who quotes proverbs will quote this proverb about you like mother like daughter

[00:36:40] Oh

[00:36:42] Whatever

[00:36:43] You are a true daughter of your mother who despised her husband and her children

[00:36:48] And you are a true sister of your sisters who despised their husbands and their children

[00:36:54] Your mother was a Hittite and your father an amorite

[00:36:57] Thanks, mom of Aldeberries your older sister was Samaria who lived to the north of you with her daughters

[00:37:03] And your younger sister who lived to the south of you with her daughters was Sodom

[00:37:07] You not only follow their ways and copy their detestable practices, but in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they

[00:37:16] Okay, you were worse than all them people that you're related to that I guess yeah

[00:37:23] These things just keep like I mean it's so funny to me not funny

[00:37:27] But it's it's crazy how we talk about how bad they are and then he's just like and all I gotta do is

[00:37:33] Just kill you and embarrass you and then you're gonna be back to normal again

[00:37:35] Yep, like it's such an easy fix in his mind. He's just got to kill and embarrass you

[00:37:39] Yeah, you know kill you real bad, but you know

[00:37:42] But not before I embarrass you

[00:37:45] Right embarrass you strip you first and bear shoe. Yeah, and then kill you right right for a couple of you

[00:37:50] I gotta keep a couple of you around to keep making fun of right. Yeah

[00:37:54] As surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord

[00:37:58] Your sister saw them and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done now

[00:38:04] This was the sin of your sister saw them she and her daughters were arrogant

[00:38:09] Overfed and unconcerned they did not help the poor and needy

[00:38:13] They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore. I did away with them if you have seen

[00:38:20] Samaria did not commit half the sins you did you have done more detestable things than they and have made your

[00:38:27] Sister seem righteous by all these things you have done. Hmm. Damn Wow. He's like I hate you

[00:38:34] Yeah, you guys are like you guys are worse than the worst apparently you're just you're awful. You're the worst. I hate you

[00:38:40] Right bear your disgrace for you have furnished some justification for your sisters

[00:38:47] Because your sins were more vile than theirs they appear more righteous than you

[00:38:53] What is a suck contest? Yeah, right? Yeah, you suck more than they did and they sucked

[00:39:01] Right like are there degrees of like how much you hate us? I guess I guess yeah, I

[00:39:09] Hmm, I don't I don't really know like I

[00:39:13] Get it right like God is constantly going off about how much he hates the Israelites

[00:39:18] Like that's like the one constant in the Old Testament and it seems like every time we get into

[00:39:25] Some new book there's like a one-upping of how much he hates them this time versus the other time, right?

[00:39:31] Right and it just feels like this is one of those things where he's like well

[00:39:35] Let's we gotta make him look this much worse because we've already covered some pretty bad shit already

[00:39:39] So yeah, let's make them that much worse. What that's how they did their

[00:39:45] their

[00:39:47] Communicating their comparisons back then they they literally did in order to make something seem big

[00:39:54] They had to it couldn't just be big. They had to be giants, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah that kind of thing

[00:39:59] Yeah, sure

[00:40:00] So then be ashamed and bear your disgrace for you have made your sisters appear righteous

[00:40:06] However, I will restore the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters and your fortunes along with them

[00:40:13] So that you may bear your disgrace and be ashamed of all you've done in giving them comfort

[00:40:18] And your sisters saw them with her daughters and Samaria with her daughters

[00:40:25] Will return to what they were before and you and your daughters will return to what you were before

[00:40:30] You would not even mention your sister Sodom in the day of your pride before your wickedness was uncovered

[00:40:36] Even so you are now scorned by the daughters of Edom and all her neighbors and the daughters of the Philistines

[00:40:43] All those around you who despise you I'm so back and forth on this Jesus Christ. Yeah

[00:40:50] I hate you, but I'll save you

[00:40:52] But you still suck and you suck worse than them

[00:40:54] But also you were prostituting to them or something

[00:40:57] I don't I don't right, you know, but they also hate you but you were giving them free sex and what yeah

[00:41:03] Like what this is just all over the fucking place. Stop going off for a minute. Can you just talk?

[00:41:07] Yeah, just talk right you will bear the consequences of your lewdness and your detestable

[00:41:14] Practices declares the Lord. This is what the sovereign Lord says

[00:41:17] I will deal with you as you deserve because you have despised my oath by breaking the covenant

[00:41:25] The covenant the covenant that was made with their grandfather. Yeah, right and great-grandfather

[00:41:30] Yeah, that he hasn't really

[00:41:32] Also that he hasn't really specifically laid out to them right which even in one of the previous chapters in Ezekiel

[00:41:38] He was like I'm going to tell them all these things after like to make them better after they get destroyed

[00:41:45] Yeah, I'm gonna tell them these things so that they're they're good people again, right?

[00:41:48] And like why didn't you do that before? Why didn't you come to them before you've had right?

[00:41:54] You know

[00:41:55] thousands and thousands of years to discuss who you are what you want as a God to these people that are your people

[00:42:02] Why haven't you done that?

[00:42:05] You know this gets into parenting. Yeah, like no definitely

[00:42:09] Like do you just always tell your kid everything that they're doing wrong and how much you hate them?

[00:42:15] Obviously not if you do your shitty parent and you should probably stop listening right now and get yourself into some good family therapy

[00:42:23] Yeah, because you suck right right um

[00:42:27] You know if you're not happy with the choices your child is making

[00:42:31] you bear some of

[00:42:34] while they're minors particularly you bear some of

[00:42:38] the responsibility for the choices that they're making and why they're making them and

[00:42:43] You should start talking to them. Yeah, and telling them communication

[00:42:49] Expectations communication is key right? Yeah, like you don't just wait until they're like 18 and then be like

[00:42:56] Now that you're 18

[00:42:58] I decided I'm gonna tell you all the ways that you suck and I'm gonna embarrass you and I'm gonna cut you off and I'm gonna you know

[00:43:05] Tell you how much you suck and blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, but someday there's an inheritance for you

[00:43:11] But don't talk to me between now and then

[00:43:14] What is happening right now? Right? That's what I feel like this God is doing

[00:43:19] Yeah, yeah, he like waited till he turned 18 and then just started screaming at them

[00:43:24] Yeah, after being an absentee father absolutely true. Yes bullshit. I agree yet

[00:43:30] I will remember the covenant I made with you in the days of your youth and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you

[00:43:39] Okay, oh again, right? Okay all your covenants seem to come to nothing right? Yeah

[00:43:44] Then you will remember your ways and be ashamed when you receive your sisters both those who are older than you and those who are younger

[00:43:53] I will give them to you as daughters, but not on the basis of my covenant with you

[00:43:59] So I will establish my covenant with you and you will know

[00:44:03] That my name is the motherfucking Lord that I am the motherfucking Lord right? Yeah

[00:44:07] Yeah, then when I make atonement for you for all you've done

[00:44:11] You will remember and be ashamed and never again open your mouth because of your humiliation

[00:44:17] Declare the sovereign Lord and so you're gonna be silent the rest of your life because you were humiliated

[00:44:23] Then you're gonna be you're gonna be just wonderful people because you you recognized your humiliation because God

[00:44:30] Showed it to you because he destroyed you and oh wait wait. He also hacked you to pieces, right? Yeah

[00:44:36] Good stuff good stuff if they're gonna be full of regret

[00:44:40] They're gonna be full of regret that their God is so cruel not at the things that they've done, right? Yeah, I agree

[00:44:48] I

[00:44:49] Don't I don't really know how to feel about this chapter other than I

[00:44:54] Don't like it. I

[00:44:56] It's very like so like they is heavy on the symbolism, right? Yeah

[00:45:00] And obviously it's talking about the exact same things that we've been talking about up to this point

[00:45:05] God's gonna destroy the fuck out of them gonna spread them to different cultures and whatever and people are gonna laugh at

[00:45:11] Then they're all gonna laugh at you

[00:45:14] And

[00:45:17] Right no, yeah for sure just for those who don't know yeah

[00:45:20] And and of course we have to bring misogyny into the mix because why not we have to make women look like their pieces of shit

[00:45:26] Because that's how we describe bad things as in

[00:45:30] Your your you damn women you damn women, right? You know like you could almost rename the Bible you damn women, right?

[00:45:36] You know so I don't know it

[00:45:40] I

[00:45:43] Was I was happier with the multiple eyeballs on the wheels

[00:45:50] Right, yeah

[00:45:52] All right, do we got anything else to go over today or was that the gist of it?

[00:46:01] That was Ezekiel chapter 16 sure fuck was and we will be back tomorrow on our live

[00:46:08] Discord correct. I believe yes with

[00:46:12] Chapter 17 of easy Kyle. That's right. We'll see you guys then

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