Ezekiel Chapter 20: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:08:03] Ezekiel or as I like to call them easy kyle chapter 20 that is correct

[00:08:08] And we're gonna start off with a date hang with me. I will give you what that date is

[00:08:13] Okay, all right in the seventh year

[00:08:16] In the fifth month on the tenth day

[00:08:20] Some of the elders of israel came to inquire of the lord and those fuckers sat down in front of me

[00:08:27] Ezekiel. Yeah, okay. Me is even like they do this a lot. They do

[00:08:31] um, let's see that

[00:08:34] date is

[00:08:37] Scroll scroll scroll

[00:08:39] It is somewhere in

[00:08:42] July or august of

[00:08:44] 591 bce. Okay, right? Yep. So just so like six years after the second round of

[00:08:51] Exiles, I could not tell you because I don't retain dates

[00:08:55] 597 was the first exile or the second exile. Okay. I will take your word for it

[00:09:01] Then the word of the lord came to me

[00:09:03] Okay, yeah, so while these fuckers are like

[00:09:07] Is he gonna float off to Jerusalem this time or is he gonna stay put?

[00:09:09] Um, god's gonna go off. Oh according to the notes that I see I read that should be fun

[00:09:16] Son of man, you have mere human. Yeah worm speak to the elders of israel and say to them fuckers

[00:09:23] This is what the sovereign lord says. Okay. Have you come to inquire of me?

[00:09:29] As surely as I live, I will not let you inquire of me

[00:09:33] Declare the sovereign lord

[00:09:35] Okay, why?

[00:09:37] Um, will you judge them? Will you judge them son of man?

[00:09:42] You mere human will you judge them son of man? You fucking worm. Okay

[00:09:46] Then confront them with the detestable practices of their ancestors and say to them

[00:09:52] He's like, can you even believe of the the nerve of these motherfuckers right here?

[00:09:57] Yeah

[00:09:58] Coming and asking me stupid questions right because because y'all are you you aren't gonna confront like he's talking to them because they're other

[00:10:05] Profit type people I guess right or something

[00:10:07] They're just the elders and he's like you won't you won't even confront the people that have fucked up so much over the you know

[00:10:12] This song this all the time. They're fucking up all the time. Yeah, he he's like, are you talking to me?

[00:10:18] Really for real? Are you sure right? Why?

[00:10:22] So he's gonna tell Ezekiel tell them

[00:10:25] This is what the sovereign lord says on the day I chose. Oh, he's about to give a laundry list

[00:10:31] Okay, all right. Yeah on the day I chose israel. So this is like, you know forever ago

[00:10:37] Yeah, I swore with uplifted hand to the descendants of jacob and revealed myself to them in egypt

[00:10:45] With uplifted hand. I said to them i'm the lord your god. Hey wassup

[00:10:51] On that day I swore to them that I would bring them out of egypt into a land

[00:10:56] I had searched out for them

[00:10:59] A land flowing with milk and honey the most beautiful of all lands except for that

[00:11:02] We know now that that probably never happened. Well that and if you're god, why did you have to search?

[00:11:08] Right, right. Did you have to like invent a gps for yourself from what I've from what I've gathered though

[00:11:14] On a gps walking distance to the promised land from egypt was like a five or six day trip

[00:11:19] Right not 40 years not 40 years. So I feel like you're wrong and you're lying right and you're bad and

[00:11:27] You wrote shit down that you're just trying to come up

[00:11:29] Like this is just a story about a quote-unquote epic journey

[00:11:33] And you guys knew about you know

[00:11:35] 500 square miles of land. So you're like, how do we make this into 40 years? Yeah, exactly

[00:11:39] So apparently you just wandered around back and forth and you know, except they didn't whatever

[00:11:43] Whatever, right, right. Yeah, and I said to them

[00:11:47] I said each of you get rid of the vile images

[00:11:50] You have set your eyes on and do not defile yourselves with the idols of egypt

[00:11:56] I'm the lord your god

[00:11:57] But you know what those fuckers did they defiled themselves with the the

[00:12:02] Idols, yeah, they rebelled against me and would not listen to me

[00:12:06] They did not get rid of the vile images. They had set their eyes on

[00:12:11] Nor did they forsake the idols of egypt. I mean, can you even right?

[00:12:15] The idols of egypt were pretty cool. I can't believe those guys did not give those up though

[00:12:21] OMG listen, I mean, I've seen some of the shit like the the art of old gods that comes out of egypt

[00:12:28] And i'm like that's just pretty cool

[00:12:30] I would have probably had you know what if I had more money. I would order me some of those

[00:12:36] Um, right idols of egypt. Yeah, they definitely like when it when it comes out in the cool factor

[00:12:40] Egypt's got it. You know, they've got idols rock the house. Hell. Yeah, they do

[00:12:44] Yeah, so I said me god, I would pour out my wrath on them and spend my anger against them in egypt

[00:12:52] But for the sake of my name, I brought them out of egypt

[00:12:57] I was gonna kill him then but you know, but remember moses pointed out that'll make you look real bad

[00:13:03] And so, you know, I decided all right i'll chillax

[00:13:06] But I mean like that he did kill a bunch of them at the at the mountain there when

[00:13:10] Moses went up and then came back down and they were making golden idols or whatever

[00:13:13] Yeah, he killed like 3 000 people there. Yeah, so I did right after he got done. Sorry right after he got done telling them

[00:13:19] No killing. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine when god does it right? Well, yeah, he didn't even do it though

[00:13:24] He had them do it. Yeah, so like he literally had the people he told just then not to murder

[00:13:30] He had them murder don't murder except for those guys over there

[00:13:33] Right the ones with the gold in their hands. Yeah

[00:13:36] I did it to keep my name from being profaned in the eyes of the nations among whom they lived

[00:13:42] And in whose sight I had revealed myself to the israelites

[00:13:45] He's like, I didn't want egypt to look to look at me like I was bad

[00:13:49] Or at least that message is consistent. Yeah, because that is the same message they said back then it is

[00:13:53] But it's like your god. Why the fuck you worry and what these egyptians think of you

[00:13:59] Your god is worried about his fucking he's vain. He's worried about his image these big dick egyptians

[00:14:06] Damn, I wish I'd said it right the first time. Yeah, I know

[00:14:10] Therefore I

[00:14:12] The vain glorious asshole that I am. Yeah led them out of egypt and brought them into the wilderness

[00:14:18] You know the wilderness. Yeah

[00:14:20] I gave them my decrees and made known to them my laws by which the person who obeys them will live

[00:14:28] If you don't obey him, I guess what you die

[00:14:30] Well, yeah, like back then he was definitely killed people that didn't obey him. Sure

[00:14:34] Like there was a lot more just like instant really nearly smite laws. Yeah, it's a drive by smiting

[00:14:41] Also, I gave them my sabbaths as a sign between us so they would know that I the lord made them holy

[00:14:48] That's why you get a day off

[00:14:51] Okay, so that you can know that god is holy

[00:14:54] Yeah, so you can spend the the whole day not washing laundry not cooking dinner

[00:15:00] You spend the whole day fearing the lord. Yeah, get on your knees the whole day. Yeah suck this dick

[00:15:08] all day

[00:15:10] Yet the people of israel rebelled against me in the wilderness. Can you even believe that shit?

[00:15:15] I mean I can actually yeah, I mean they sometimes wore some whiny fucks but but they this has been a consistent theme throughout the old test

[00:15:23] They constantly are rebelling which I I don't even argue with them on. I'm like, yeah, dude hasn't really

[00:15:29] Okay, but honestly and then god fucking pummeled them with birds

[00:15:34] That was not cool. Yeah, that wasn't cool

[00:15:37] smooth move god

[00:15:39] They did not follow my decrees, but rejected my laws by which the person who obeys them will live

[00:15:45] You know those laws that I just said the one. Yeah, and they utterly desecrated my sabbaths those bitches

[00:15:51] Yeah, they picked up sticks one time. I think yeah, yeah, that was erin's kids or something

[00:15:55] No, that was just some random dude that died. Oh, yeah, no erin's kids were they uh, let the wrong incense

[00:16:00] Oh, yeah, I always forget that. Yeah

[00:16:02] So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and destroy them in the wilderness

[00:16:08] But again for the sake of my name

[00:16:10] I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations in whose sight

[00:16:15] I had brought them out

[00:16:17] I don't have a lot of respect for a god that is worried about his image

[00:16:20] Me neither like if that's what you're you're all about image, man

[00:16:24] Like you care what people think of you and if they don't think the right things then you kill them

[00:16:29] But you're also worried about what other people think of you who aren't your people

[00:16:33] And because of that you don't kill people

[00:16:35] Yeah, but it all comes down to killing people at some level will I or won't I kill

[00:16:40] And who is the one doing the thinking about me? Right? Yeah

[00:16:43] Yeah, and whoever you want to impress that day apparently determines who you're gonna kill

[00:16:48] Right. So so uncool right also fyi

[00:16:53] With uplifted hand

[00:16:54] I swore to them in the wilderness that I would not bring them into the land

[00:16:58] I had given them a land flowing with milk and honey the most beautiful of all lands

[00:17:04] Because they rejected my laws and did not follow my decrees and desecrated my mother fucking Sabbath

[00:17:09] Which is why they had to wander around for 40 years

[00:17:12] Yeah for their hearts were devoted to their idols the ones they carried in their pockets or whatever

[00:17:18] I mean he says that but like what was the killing of the 3000 people running when Moses came down to the mountain

[00:17:25] You know, like that was supposedly ridding them of the unholy

[00:17:29] Idol worshiping people. We've rid these people. We've been rid of these people so many times

[00:17:34] I've lost track. It's almost like you can't kill an idea

[00:17:39] Right. I recently just heard that in like a show and um throughout literature forever

[00:17:46] well, yeah, and more over though like it's

[00:17:50] We we don't this is the god is more about fear

[00:17:55] Like this is more about they don't actually respect or worship god so much as they fear the repercussions of what

[00:18:03] Happens when god is angry, right?

[00:18:06] Yeah, which is also the same fear that they have of the other gods that they worship as well

[00:18:11] They just serve different purposes in their lives, right?

[00:18:14] And so there's nothing special about Yahweh to these people because

[00:18:18] They obviously never chose him to be the single one monotheistic god

[00:18:23] For you know thousands of years, right? Right? So it it's just a it's an ongoing problem because he can't solidify his

[00:18:31] His base

[00:18:33] He can't solidify his base and he's also like always off message. It's almost like he's like a trump that can fly

[00:18:41] Right. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, yet I looked on them with pity and did not destroy them or put an end to them in the wilderness

[00:18:50] I mean pretty much because if I killed them then who was gonna pray to me?

[00:18:54] Yeah, yeah, I said to their children in the wilderness

[00:18:57] Do not follow the statutes of your parents or keep their laws or defile yourselves with their idols

[00:19:04] Except that I told the children don't obey your parents, but you're supposed to obey your parents as one of the fucking commandments

[00:19:11] Yeah, that's always like gray area. Like when's it okay? Right? Yeah

[00:19:16] I am the lord your god follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws

[00:19:23] Keep my Sabbaths holy that they may be assigned between us

[00:19:27] Then you will know that I'm the lord your god. That's how you'll know

[00:19:30] That's how you know

[00:19:33] loves you

[00:19:35] But the children those fuckers rebelled against me. They did not follow my decrees

[00:19:41] They were not careful to keep my laws of which I said the person who obeys them will live by them

[00:19:47] And they desecrated my fucking Sabbaths

[00:19:51] They're always desecrating your fucking Sabbaths

[00:19:54] So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and spend my anger against them in the wilderness

[00:20:01] Yes, but I withheld my hand and for the sake of my name

[00:20:04] I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nation in whose sight I had brought them out

[00:20:12] Okay, so he's worrying about he's worried about his image and other people's

[00:20:17] views

[00:20:18] Okay, he's like i'm always scared the Egyptians are gonna think that i'm shitty and mean

[00:20:23] Right, and I don't want them to think that or more over that he can't control his own people

[00:20:28] Right, you know like uh some god

[00:20:31] Right, you can't control your people and you're so mean and evil that you killed them all right. Wow

[00:20:38] You what would have happened if god would have killed all of his people? I wonder about that, right like

[00:20:44] He would have died out

[00:20:46] Right. Yeah, what does so like he wouldn't be there would be no people for him to have right

[00:20:52] So just that god Yahweh would just not exist

[00:20:57] Right because what would he have to choose the new one or something right? Yeah, like

[00:21:03] It's just not it's not gonna it's not gonna happen without him having some people right

[00:21:08] So I mean that's really why you didn't kill him right you need somebody to yell at because there was plenty of gods before

[00:21:15] The Israelites right? Yeah, so that's what they're in trouble for he didn't exist then

[00:21:20] Right, and he only existed since then so something happened and then he was written into existence by man

[00:21:26] And and now you know he refuses to go away

[00:21:32] Also with uplifted hand I swore to them in the wilderness that I would disperse them among the nations

[00:21:38] And scatter smother cover them with the countries. Yeah just scatter them right yeah

[00:21:43] Because they had not obeyed my laws

[00:21:46] But had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths and their eyes lusted after their parents idols

[00:21:54] So I gave them other statues that were not good

[00:21:58] And laws which they could not live

[00:22:01] I defiled them through their gifts the sacrifice of every firstborn that I might fill them with horror

[00:22:08] So they would know that I am the lord

[00:22:10] Wait

[00:22:11] Okay, he he's seeing he gave them idols

[00:22:16] Apparently I think what that means is that he allowed them to

[00:22:21] Go about their business and be gross

[00:22:24] Okay, and he's like fine. Fuck yourselves. I don't care got it

[00:22:29] And so he's twisting like what they were already doing into he allowed I allowed it to happen

[00:22:34] Okay, and it's like no they were already you just got through complaining about how they were already

[00:22:39] Yeah, you don't get to take credit for that after well

[00:22:42] I mean, you know, they're writing him as a god who knows everything so they have to kind of make him seem like he's

[00:22:48] In charge even though he's not so okay, but still he's like

[00:22:53] Fine be bad. You keep being bad all the time. You're always bad. You keep being bad fine

[00:22:59] Be bad just keep being bad. I'm letting you be bad. See how I let you be bad

[00:23:03] Right, you didn't let them you were pissed about it. They were already being bad, right?

[00:23:10] Retroactive. Um, yeah. Oh, oh, but I let that happen. Yeah, then why were you pissed?

[00:23:16] Right, like stop you weirdo

[00:23:20] Therefore son of man. Yeah, mirror human. You fucking worm

[00:23:25] Speak to the people of israel and say to them. This is what the sovereign lord says

[00:23:31] In this also your ancestors in

[00:23:35] Ancestors, uh-huh blasphemed me by being unfaithful to me those cheaters

[00:23:41] Okay, when I brought them into the land

[00:23:44] I had sworn to give them and they saw any high hill or any leafy tree

[00:23:49] There they offered their sacrifices made offerings that aroused my anger

[00:23:55] Presented their fragrant incense and poured out their drink offerings now in other

[00:24:00] Translations, it's not just offered their sacrifices. It's offered their children as sacrifices. Yeah, all right, so they were doing the local

[00:24:11] Child sacrifice, right? Yeah thing which again, I'm very not okay with right regardless of your fucking religion. You dumb dumb

[00:24:19] Yeah, don't eat the babies right

[00:24:22] Then I said to them. What's this high place you go to?

[00:24:27] It is called bamma to this day and I have a thing about that

[00:24:31] But before you get into the thing about that, I do have to say this real quick too. Yeah

[00:24:35] Child sacrifice is not like

[00:24:38] Just worshiping an idol. You're sacrificing a fucking child

[00:24:42] Yeah, right like if you are sacrificing a child and again, we don't condone it in any way whatsoever

[00:24:48] Right is not a good thing, but you have to believe pretty strongly that and what you're doing

[00:24:54] That is a god you fear, right? You are fearing the fuck out of that god

[00:24:59] Yeah, if you are sacrificing your child to that god. Yeah, so I mean

[00:25:03] All I'm getting at is that these people

[00:25:06] obviously

[00:25:07] Didn't have as much fear of god as they did of some other gods or at least

[00:25:12] If they did have as much fear it was definitely equal fear and not like

[00:25:16] One is better or bigger than the other, you know, right?

[00:25:19] So

[00:25:21] That's that's a large step to take for something that you just kind of idly worship. Yeah, and it's this was strong beliefs

[00:25:27] Obviously, yeah, I mean you don't just like willy nilly kill babies. Right, right?

[00:25:33] So bamma. Yeah, bamma. He's like it's called bamma to this day those high places

[00:25:38] Yeah, bamma means high place. Okay. All right those high places to this day

[00:25:43] They're called high places. Right. Are they okay? They're still high them high places. They are so high

[00:25:50] They are the highest of all the high places

[00:25:52] Yeah, yeah the fuck

[00:25:54] therefore

[00:25:55] Say to the israelite

[00:25:57] This is what the sovereign lord says

[00:25:59] Will you defile yourselves the way your ancestors did and lost after their vile images?

[00:26:06] Oh, I think the answer is yes. Yes, they will yes

[00:26:08] They will when you offer your gifts the sacrifice of your children in the fire

[00:26:15] You continue to defile yourselves with all your idols to this day through this day

[00:26:22] Am I to let you inquire of me you israelites? He's like you guys killed kids and prayed

[00:26:31] To these other statues and fucked around on sundays

[00:26:36] And you think you're coming to ask me a question. Are you serious right now? Well, I mean

[00:26:41] I suppose they wouldn't really have to ask

[00:26:44] Let's be honest here. They're asking a zekeel like they wouldn't have to ask a zekeel a question

[00:26:49] If you just fucking talk to them exactly and probably these people wouldn't be doing this shit if you just fucking talk to them

[00:26:55] Right, exactly, but he's not so they are so they are right

[00:27:00] As surely as I live declares the sovereign lord, I will not let you inquire of me

[00:27:06] What are you going to sew their mouth shut like beetle juice style? Right like

[00:27:11] No, they are inquiring of you and can you imagine sitting there while some dude is just telling you

[00:27:17] You will not do this too. Like he's literally reiterating

[00:27:21] Talk to the hand this god wants nothing to do with you and like he's like snapping his fingers and like

[00:27:29] Wigging his head back and forth like uh-uh did you even right?

[00:27:32] And I'd be like dude, who the fuck do you think you are? You better get your fucking pointy finger out of my goddamn facebook

[00:27:38] I bite it off

[00:27:40] You say we want to be like the nations like the peoples of the world who serve wood and stone

[00:27:46] But what you have in mind will never fucking happen

[00:27:51] No, except it has and it does. Yeah, it has and it did and it does right

[00:27:56] I bet there was a lot of people there was what it said a million jewish folks that lived in israel at the end of the

[00:28:02] Egypt, i'm sorry. Yeah at the end of the babelonian exile or whatever

[00:28:07] Like I bet some of those people stayed egyptian. You know, why you better fuck this shit

[00:28:11] Fuck this shit i'm staying here. Yep

[00:28:13] As surely as I live declares the sovereign lord

[00:28:16] I will reign over you with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and without poured wrath

[00:28:22] Hmm. Okay, i'm gonna hate you right me hate you long time

[00:28:27] I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered

[00:28:33] With a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and without poured wrath

[00:28:37] I will bring you into the wilderness of the nations and their face to face

[00:28:43] I will execute judgment upon you. Oh, i'm like face to face, huh?

[00:28:48] Well, I fucking dare you do it. He hasn't done the face to face thing yet

[00:28:52] But he's gonna wait until he's punishing them to do the face to face apparently

[00:28:56] At least according to that that's to come right. It's he's saying this is i'll do this someday

[00:29:01] Okay, someday i'm gonna see you face to face and i'm gonna kick the shit out of you hypothetically right

[00:29:06] We're talking about the babelonia exile right the last step of the babelonia exile. Yeah, like that's what this prophecy is

[00:29:12] Hypothetically yeah, he's saying i'm gonna scatter you but then he's also saying but one of these days

[00:29:18] I'm gonna scoop you all up right and i'm gonna see you face to face

[00:29:22] But even even the saying that he's gonna see him face to face to face is not true either

[00:29:26] He's using babelon as a tool. Yeah, and so he's sending another army after his people

[00:29:31] There is no face to face. It's a fucking war right

[00:29:34] As I judged your ancestors in the wilderness of the land of egypt

[00:29:39] So I will judge you declare the sovereign lord. I will take note of you as you pass under my rod

[00:29:45] Yeah, I will

[00:29:47] And I will bring you into the bond of the covenant

[00:29:51] So we're gonna touch each other's balls and make promises right? Yeah, that's what god really works after they pass under his rod

[00:29:57] They're gonna pass under his rod and he's gonna be like while you're down there

[00:30:01] Touch my balls. Touch my balls fear the lord. Touch my balls

[00:30:04] I will purge you of those who revolt and rebel against me. Will you though?

[00:30:10] I I feel like you won't I feel like you don't yeah, and you haven't right and you supposedly you could

[00:30:16] But you won't right

[00:30:17] Although I will bring them out of the land where they are living yet

[00:30:21] They will not enter the land of israel

[00:30:25] Then you will know that I am the lord

[00:30:28] Okay

[00:30:29] Okay, as for you people of israel

[00:30:32] This is what the sovereign lord says go and serve your idols every one of you

[00:30:37] But afterward you will surely listen to me and no longer profane my holy name with your gifts and idols

[00:30:43] From my holy mountain the high mountain of israel

[00:30:47] Declare the sovereign lord there in the land of all the people of israel will serve me and there I will accept them

[00:30:56] Hmm. So so go worship your shit, but then you'll stop and then you're gonna worship him

[00:31:02] On the holy high mountain, but just the one just the one not the other high places

[00:31:07] Not the bam is just the bamma right yeah, right? Okay

[00:31:10] There I will require your offerings and your choice gifts along with all your holy sacrifices

[00:31:16] But not your kids right except that one time that I wanted

[00:31:21] Uh, what's his name jakem maybe to sacrifice israel, but then I decided or Isaac right right

[00:31:27] But then I was like just kidding. You don't have to kill him. It was abraham. That's what I said. No, I know

[00:31:35] I will accept you as fragrant incense when I bring you out from the nations and gather you from the countries

[00:31:41] Where you've been scattered and I will be proved holy

[00:31:45] Through you in the sight of the nations

[00:31:48] So he's like oh

[00:31:49] Then everybody will think i'm awesome in all those other places that I shouldn't give a shit about right because they're not my people

[00:31:55] But obviously I do and I can't wait till those other places that aren't my people because it's all about image

[00:32:02] Worship me. Yeah, you know, you aren't anything if your enemies don't think well of you

[00:32:05] Yeah, I guess

[00:32:07] Then you will know that I am the lord

[00:32:11] When I bring you into the land of israel the land I had sworn with up lifted hand to give to your ancestors

[00:32:17] Yeah, there you will remember your conduct and all the actions by which you have defiled yourselves

[00:32:23] And you will loathe yourselves for all the evil you have done

[00:32:27] Okay, you will know that I am the mother fucking lord when I deal with you for my name's sake and not according to your

[00:32:36] Evil ways and your corrupt practices you people of israel

[00:32:41] Declare the sovereign lord

[00:32:44] That's pretty great stuff right that's pretty great

[00:32:46] All right, so now we have another five verses

[00:32:49] That according to everything that I've read should

[00:32:53] Actually belong to the next chapter. Okay because that's what it has to do with so

[00:32:58] That is kind of like the end got it then we're like now we're moving into something else but not

[00:33:05] But it's still relevant to what we just talked about. Yeah, yeah, okay

[00:33:09] So anyways dot dot dot later

[00:33:11] Yeah, the word of the lord came to me and I did it right? Yeah, son of man

[00:33:18] Yeah, me you're human you fucking worm. Yeah set your face toward the south preach against the south and prophecy

[00:33:25] Against the forest of the south land say to the southern forest hear the word of the lord

[00:33:31] This is what the sovereign lord says. I'm about to set fire to you

[00:33:35] Oh

[00:33:37] And it will consume all your trees both green and dry

[00:33:40] The blazing flame will not be quenched and every fucking face from south to north will be scorched by it

[00:33:49] What the what is this south shit? I don't know but i'm gonna kill all of you because killing is awesome

[00:33:56] but like

[00:33:57] Because it's south like the uh, edomites and the um like the people that were like

[00:34:01] Um across the jordan river. Is that who the south is referencing? I'm not sure

[00:34:07] But it's some other conquering people

[00:34:10] Tribes or whatever what it sounds like he's prophesying against jerusalem here or against the israelites

[00:34:15] Yeah, not like this doesn't sound like he's talking about

[00:34:18] Uh foreign land it feels like he's talking about israelites

[00:34:22] Yeah, and he's saying people from the south are going to come get you that's not what it sounded like to me

[00:34:27] Wait hold on

[00:34:29] Set your face toward the south preach against the south and prophecy against the forest of the south land right

[00:34:36] So it sounds like he's saying because he said the force is going to catch on fire

[00:34:39] And you know oh because israel is south of

[00:34:44] all of the

[00:34:45] Like babalon and right but it's just the first time i've heard him reference it to as the south like that's a weird way to

[00:34:53] So south

[00:34:55] Right. Yeah, okay, but i guess the reason i ask is because it sounds like he maybe is talking about a different people

[00:35:02] Like the the people who?

[00:35:05] Were part of israel

[00:35:07] Oh, i see what you're saying but now are no longer i can't remember all the different tribes were but you know

[00:35:12] The 10 lost tribes of israel or whatever but the ones that were specifically across the jordan right like they were south of the rest

[00:35:17] Of israel there. Yeah, I don't know really but i get what you're saying

[00:35:20] Yeah, um, yeah, so whoever whatever he's saying that i'm on burn your shit

[00:35:26] Everyone will see that i the lord have kindled it. That's the important point. Okay. It will not be quenched

[00:35:33] Then i azekiel said suffering lord they are saying of me isn't he just telling parables the end?

[00:35:40] Oh, okay

[00:35:44] Oh my god

[00:35:47] Azekiel hey dude, um, he says he's gonna kill everybody

[00:35:51] But isn't that just like uh, it's kind of like a joke right? It's just it's kind of that's fake

[00:35:55] He's just hyperbole. Right. Yeah, he's just he's he's stretching the truth a bit. You know maybe exaggeration

[00:36:01] Is that what's going on here like overkill like he's just mad, right?

[00:36:05] Right. Yeah, you know kind of like when i get mad i'm like i'm gonna kill you

[00:36:10] Like i'm not really gonna kill you right like i'm not actually gonna set fire to right

[00:36:16] You know your house or whatever right, right? Yeah, i don't know we'll find out

[00:36:20] I guess i guess because it probably continues on in the next chapter, right? I would think that the answer to that question

[00:36:27] Is he joking? Well one of the questions i would prefer i would like an answer to is the reference to the south

[00:36:33] Who is the south? Yeah, because i am curious about that so today and that being said that was azekiel chapter 20

[00:36:41] Okay, hold on. No, i'm holding on. I'm holding on

[00:36:43] I thought i might have hit it in some of my notes

[00:36:46] So let me read this and see if this answers your question. Okay. All right. Yeah

[00:36:49] The last five verses ought to begin the next chapter is they are connected with the subject of that chapter

[00:36:55] Being a prophecy against jerusalem, which lay to the south of chaldea

[00:37:01] Where the prophet then was okay, and which here and elsewhere

[00:37:05] Is represented under the emblem of a forest doomed to be destroyed by fire

[00:37:11] I see so he's this is a so he's talking about the south from the vantage point of being in the north because he was already

[00:37:17] Taken away to the north. Yes

[00:37:20] Got it

[00:37:21] That makes sense

[00:37:21] But it was a weird reference like it was a weird way of phrasing it that we haven't seen before

[00:37:26] Yeah, yeah, and you know we you and i talked about this

[00:37:28] I don't know if it was on the podcast for it was like just outside on our own

[00:37:33] But um, we were talking about

[00:37:35] How the writing style seems to be all over the place with azekiel. Yeah, I we were outside talking about this

[00:37:42] This was not on the podcast right? Yes. I

[00:37:45] cannot get a grip on

[00:37:47] Who actually wrote this because it seems like a different person stepped in every chapter

[00:37:53] Right and it's weird. It is really weird and I don't get I don't

[00:37:58] like

[00:37:59] Of the research that you did before we started this book

[00:38:03] It seemed like everybody is like, yeah, azekiel kind of maybe sort of wrote it

[00:38:07] Right, but there's not really any more like

[00:38:09] Info that we had beyond that. I was just like, yeah, probably azekiel wrote it

[00:38:13] But maybe not kind of sort of yeah

[00:38:16] I think it did say that there were a lot of editors that came along later and did redactions and additions

[00:38:21] But it feels pretty significant

[00:38:23] Yeah

[00:38:23] The amount of differences in this book and like they didn't even try to stick with one style

[00:38:28] That's the part that's weird. Right. Like did you even try to sound like azekiel? Yeah, like

[00:38:35] I believe you that he wrote the first couple chapters with all his crazy wiggie dreams

[00:38:40] Right, like that. Okay. Yeah, he probably wrote that sure and i'm not saying that that

[00:38:46] Material is what's missing from these chapters. Right

[00:38:48] We don't need wheels with eyes in every chapter with the style of writing style of writing the voice the tone

[00:38:54] With jeremiah, right like the until we got to the end of that book. There was a pretty consistent

[00:39:00] Sound, you know pretty consistent style of writing that was happening at least in chunks of the book him and his scribe

[00:39:08] Yeah, baruch baruch. Yeah

[00:39:10] You could tell that they tried really hard to just stay on target

[00:39:15] So that felt like one or two writers, right? Yeah

[00:39:18] But I can't get a grasp on like what's going on from one chapter to the next one because it's completely

[00:39:24] Different and it's not like it's not just that the tone is different like the subject matter seems different like

[00:39:30] Sometimes it's like, you know in the beginning. He's like giving his

[00:39:35] Dream of weirdness, right? Yeah, and then suddenly we're like in

[00:39:39] Fucking deuteronomy fire and brimstone. Fuck everybody kill him die. And it's like, whoa guy

[00:39:46] Where did this shit come from and then we're talking about fucking lions and vines, right?

[00:39:51] And then and then there's like an entire rewriting

[00:39:54] Of the the rules. Yeah. Oh and by the way, we're not going to do the

[00:40:00] Um sins of the father's thing right on the on the sun

[00:40:04] I was thinking about that actually there the the entire concept of what he laid forth there

[00:40:11] Almost negates the idea of having to have jesus come down and die for people's sins

[00:40:15] If you don't have to suffer for the sins of your father. Yeah, like you just have to ask for forgiveness

[00:40:22] Yeah, that's essentially the same thing that happens when jesus comes

[00:40:25] Yeah

[00:40:26] So what's the point of killing his own his only son or whatever?

[00:40:29] Yeah

[00:40:29] To do the same thing that ezekiel said god said is already happening right exactly like it negates the whole purpose of jesus

[00:40:37] It really does which is crazy. I mean that that's just insane. Yeah

[00:40:41] So I that's a really good insight because you're absolutely 100 right like i'm sorry why jesus again now

[00:40:49] Yeah, I mean if we're taking this at its word, right? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense

[00:40:53] Yeah

[00:40:53] So I that that really bothered me and it was something that I kind of have been

[00:40:57] Thinking about over the last couple of days. It's almost like

[00:41:01] The more that we read about judaism

[00:41:05] The more unnecessary and stupid christianity becomes right because

[00:41:11] Judaism which is like the root of it is kind of crazy enough and stupid enough on its own and has

[00:41:17] Has it already set up? Well, yeah, and that's I mean what we're finding out by reading the old testament

[00:41:22] And i'm so happy we're doing this same is that

[00:41:25] the new testament

[00:41:28] What I do know of it many of the concepts are stolen directly from the old testament from what I can tell

[00:41:34] And again, we haven't I haven't ever read the new testament

[00:41:37] I don't know anything specifically about it

[00:41:39] But the the tenets of what we're covering here seem to be the same things that are in the new testament

[00:41:44] Well that and something that has been

[00:41:47] Kind of coming to my mind as we've been reading this like judaism is like it feels from

[00:41:53] Not the beginning of time

[00:41:55] But like it took all of the early stories and like kind of tied them into one, right? Yeah

[00:42:01] And so that feels super old and ancient right it does but then christianity because we know that

[00:42:09] You know

[00:42:10] Jesus dies

[00:42:12] The romans and the jews there kill him or what the fuck ever happens. I don't know

[00:42:16] um

[00:42:17] It feels like

[00:42:19] It's such a newer religion even though it's still hundreds of years ago, right? It feels very okay thousands

[00:42:25] But still it feels so new comparatively speaking right like it to me

[00:42:31] It's the same comparison on on a geographic scale when we're talking about america versus europe

[00:42:39] Like europe is ancient, right so fucking old, right? Yeah, and then america is like hi

[00:42:46] And i'm like you're a baby. You haven't even been here. You're still in diapers. You can't even get your

[00:42:52] Like that's why i've always been

[00:42:55] Disinterested somewhat in american history because it's like who even cares it's so new right like wait till you've been around a couple of

[00:43:02] You know

[00:43:03] Thousand years and then let's talk sure but

[00:43:07] That comparison like it just feels like the more that we read about this ancient old religion

[00:43:14] And and learn about it and learn how much christianity stole from it

[00:43:19] Or borrowed from it or took from it or evolved from whatever the fuck words you want to use. Yeah the more

[00:43:26] Worthless and silly christianity seems just on

[00:43:30] The basis of its lack of age and its lack of originality. Yeah, no i don't disagree

[00:43:37] So do you have anything else for us today? That was it. Sorry. I had to ramble your friend

[00:43:41] I'm glad we kind of continued that conversation actually yeah, so that was ezekiel chapter 20

[00:43:47] It sure as fuck was and this weekend is going to be a little different

[00:43:50] We're not going to end up doing a book club or anything because we kind of

[00:43:54] Last weekend kind of started this off on the mess up because it was because we took the memorial day off

[00:43:59] And we took one more real day off so

[00:44:01] Um, we're going to be doing our q&a tomorrow, which will be sunday

[00:44:06] And then we will be back on monday with um ezekiel chapter 21

[00:44:11] All right. We'll see you then bye

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