Ezekiel Chapter 40: Bible Study by Atheists

Ezekiel Chapter 40: Bible Study by Atheists

Ezekiel Chapter 40: Time Travel, Ancient Measurements, and God's Blueprint


Ever wondered how a divine time-traveling architect would measure a temple using cubits and hand breadths? Buckle up, because Ezekiel's got you covered!


In this episode, we dive headfirst into Ezekiel Chapter 40, exploring the jaw-dropping, mind-boggling vision of the future temple as described by the prophet himself. We start with the apocalyptic clash of Gog and Magog in Chapter 39, marvel at the grand burial sites, and question their traces today. Transitioning to the 'Torah of Ezekiel,' we scrutinize the intricate temple blueprints meticulously dictated by God, addressing the nation's post-exile simplicity. Discover the curious world of ancient measurements, debating cubits versus feet, and uncover the historical and interpretative implications of Jubilee. We correct common misconceptions about these ancient units, ensuring you grasp every fascinating detail. From sacrificial tables to the rooms for the sons of Zadok, get ready for a deep dive into Ezekiel's architectural vision. Plus, we sprinkle in some snarky commentary about the conflicting biblical directions on temple stairs and reflect on Ezekiel's notion of time travel. Don't miss out as we prepare for next week's deep dive into Chapter 41!


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[00:00:40] I got a Halloween as a review or some Buddhist on Patreon. Wife, do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today? Well yesterday we read Ezekiel Chapter 39.

[00:00:56] I'm sure it's fucked in. In that chapter we were still talking about Gog and Magog and Gog and the Hogs. It was a big Gog, it was Goggy. It was very Goggy. But God was like I am going to bring

[00:01:14] them against you Israel and I am going to make them do this thing and then I am going to kill them all. And while I am out of them I am also going to kill the coastland people because that's my thing.

[00:01:24] I like to kill people. And so he was going to bury them all in a really big pit. And by the numbers he was talking about, I would think that we would still be able to find this pit today

[00:01:35] probably. The dry bones felt. The dry bones. The dry bones. The dry bones were the zombies. The Israelites were coming back. That was just a vision that was a metaphorist to the people coming

[00:01:47] back from Israel. I just wanted to say valuable in dry bones. Yeah, no, no, no, this was the buried them in a man's gong. It was another place where they buried a bunch of fucking

[00:01:59] lot of dead people that God supposedly killed. And by the numbers he was talking about, you would think there'd still be things that people wouldn't know about it today. You would think even thousands of years ago, the amount of people he killed should still have made it through

[00:02:15] the times is like, hey, hundreds of thousands of people dead over here in this pit. Lots of they had to excavate an entire fucking mountain side just to bury these flux. Yeah. They remember that tweaky mountain I was talking about over the time. Yeah, so anyway, that was

[00:02:33] Zekil chapter 39, which means that today we're getting them to. Zekil chapter 40. All right, let's do this. Okay, don't keep. All right, we are hopping into Zekil chapter 40 or as I like to call him,

[00:02:54] easy Kyle. Yes, which you stole from me because we're not the easy Kyle. You stole my saying that it was a Zekil. Well, yeah, because you kept correcting me and that I cannot stand for that.

[00:03:06] No, okay. That will not. So instead you correct yourself now. No, I just made it into a this is what it's called or as I like to call it. Got it. Yeah, no, I just I owned it. That's all. Okay,

[00:03:19] took it away from me. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. So easy Kyle chapter 40. Yes. Which I have to go into some notes before we start here. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So this final section, chapter's final section of

[00:03:35] Zekil chapter 40 through 48. Okay. Okay. Yeah. They are referred to as the Torah of Zekil. Okay. And they, they, they compote their composed of Zekil's vision of a future temple. Oh. Okay. Okay. And that's interesting. So part of it is he's going to be giving some measurements.

[00:03:59] Oh, Jesus Christ. He fucking kidding me. I'm not. Oh my God. So we're going to get there. Well, he fucking Zekil read whatever book that was back in the day was what I don't know.

[00:04:12] Leviticus or something like that where we were reading the measurements of the first temple and he was like, you know, if there's something that's missing from today's Bible, it's measurements for a temple. Here's what happened. It's thought that no model of Solomon's temple had remained and so to

[00:04:28] direct them in the dimensions, parts, order and rules of the new temple. Yeah. He was granting these instructions. So this is like God dictating the instructions for the new temple through the Giles since there were no previous instructions left over from Solomon. Yes. And that's one

[00:04:47] reason why Zekil might have been so particular in the description of that is to try to make it like the old one. Right. It couldn't have been to solidify his place as a very important profit.

[00:05:00] Right. That couldn't have been the case. No, not at all. I mean, God's dictating the plans to the fucking new temple to you. You obviously are very important to that person, that thing that entity.

[00:05:11] One thing that's interesting is that the original instructions included all of these like decor, yeah. Like the palm of granites and the golden whatnot. Right. Right. Zekil's lacks all that is inferior in magnificence on account of the poverty of the nation at the time.

[00:05:27] So it doesn't include all the pretty parts. Well, that's that's interesting because God's really hung up on his image and you would think regardless of their poverty or not, he'd be like

[00:05:38] he didn't insist on having the best most awesome temple in the planet, you know? But he knew his people didn't have all that. All right. You knew that or the people just didn't have all that.

[00:05:48] Yeah. Yeah. And it's probably, you know, I would imagine they have to have a hard time getting the plans past the city planner if they didn't have enough funds to cover it. Right. Right. And

[00:05:58] they were in no position having just come out of exile to, you know, go raid somebody else for the gold. So right. Not happening. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to read the first little

[00:06:12] verse here and then go back to my notes to give you a date. Okay. Okay. So easy Kyle chapter 40 in the 25th year of our exile at the beginning of the year on the tenth of the month in the

[00:06:27] 14th year after the fall of the city, on that very day the hand of the Lord was on me and he took me there. Took you there. Where's there? I'll get there in a minute. Okay. So the state corresponds

[00:06:41] to about 828 573 BCE. Okay. According to the Talmud, this date falls on the day of a tone meant which is Yon Kapoor and marks the start of the 17th and last Jubilee year in history.

[00:06:59] Okay. Okay. Okay. He did he did a data to where it would fall on a Jubilee year. But according to the Talmud, it was the last one. So they didn't celebrate it after this. Apparently. That's

[00:07:14] interesting because that was a very important aspect of the earlier Jewish people when they were you know these things that they celebrated them were important to them because that was like a renewing of their commitments and everything. Right. And yeah. So that's interesting. Yeah. I

[00:07:30] would have imagined that they still had some level celebrated Jubilee today but I guess that's not correct. I guess not. I don't know. Interesting. Now where he took them is a where

[00:07:43] God took a Zikil and a vision was too Israel. Okay. All right. So anyway back to reading. In visions of God, he took me to the land of Israel and set me on a very high mountain on who's

[00:07:58] south side who were some buildings that look like a city. Okay. He took me there and I saw a man who's appearance was like bronze. He was standing in the gateway with a linen cord and a measuring

[00:08:11] rod in his hand. The man said to me, son of man. Yeah. Me or human. The man this this has got to be God right. Hypothetically. A bronze dude got to be God. Right. And each all the Lord. Well,

[00:08:24] in based on what he's saying, he's saying things that God would say to his E. Kiel. So right. Yeah. Look carefully and listen closely and pay attention to everything I'm going to show you. This is

[00:08:34] bronze man speaking. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. According to his E! Kiel. Yeah. Pay attention to everything I'm going to show you for that is why you have been brought here. Tell the people of Israel, everything you see so that's what he's doing. Okay. Hey. Yeah.

[00:08:47] I saw a wall completely surrounding the temple area the length of the measuring rod in the man's hand was six long cubits each of which was a cubit and a hand bread. It's interesting

[00:09:00] that they're using cubits here when we read the flood story, they were using feet and in place of cubits because they use cubits another Bible translations for the measurement of the ark. So it's really interesting that they went back to cubits here.

[00:09:17] I've...you're talking about the translation. It's interesting that the translation is using cubits? Yes, because in the same book that we're reading the same version right now and they're saying cubits were as when we read Noah the flood story before they said

[00:09:32] translation. The translation said feet. Sorry, you were using pronouns and so I wasn't sure what you were referring to. Got it. Yeah, no, the flood story that we read earlier when we were doing this Bible read through, they used feet to describe the translation. The translation

[00:09:49] used feet to describe the measurements of the ark which in other translations those measurements were done in cubits because that's how I knew what a cubit was. I specifically remember this and now that we're in Zeekeel we're using cubits as opposed to feet in the same book.

[00:10:05] In the same translation. So that's interesting to me. That's all. From a translation perspective, yeah you would think they'd be consistent with regard to how they did measurements, I guess.

[00:10:17] That's all. I don't recall so real quick. I just did um I wanted to toss in here real quick with regard to cubolia. There's not some of them, they still I did a quick search so

[00:10:26] they it's not something they still celebrate as a culture right now or anymore maybe in this probably may have been the last one possibly but a lot of the reasons are practical

[00:10:38] modern reasons which is kind of funny due to the practices that were in that thing in that practice was a forgiving debt and land redistribution which those things tend not to fly when people

[00:10:54] are greedy. Yeah we will not let you give up land so no you will not do that. Yeah no I just I feel like it's a very disingenuous reason to get rid of a practice like that.

[00:11:06] It was it was actually a very good practice to probably adhere to I would imagine. It's some in some regards you know but yeah it's gone now because debt collectors want their

[00:11:19] money. Yeah you can't get away from that now. Nope not a bit. Yeah so with regard to cubits that's the part of the elbow to the wrist. Yeah and I thought it was the elbow to the tip of the finger

[00:11:33] the tip of your uh middle um I believe it's to the wrist and the palm of the hand and then a hand breath is the span of the hand through the extended middle finger. Okay a hand breath.

[00:11:44] Yeah is it called hand breath got it okay because he said it was um six cubits each of which was a cubit and a hand breath. Okay so actually it's the a cubit is from the elbow to the tip

[00:11:59] of the middle finger. Oh okay my mistake. I just wanted to make I thought that was the case but I said that I wanted to. Okay I apologize and then well the hand breath then is just almost like half

[00:12:11] of a cubit then. Right yeah it's probably just a smaller measurement to smaller spaces and stuff so. So anyway he measured the wall it was one measuring rod thick and one rod high. Okay so they had

[00:12:26] measuring rods okay got it. Then he went to the east gate he climbed at steps and measured the threshold of the gate it was one rod deep. The out coves for the guards were one rod long and one rod wide

[00:12:40] and the projecting walls between the out coves were five cubits thick and the threshold of the gate next to the portico facing the temple was one rod deep. Then he measured the portico of the

[00:12:52] gateway it was eight cubits deep and its jams were two cubits thick. Okay yeah then no this is boring I'm so sorry the portico which I do like the word portico portico and they also

[00:13:09] some translations use the word vestibule which I like that word as well. Sure. The portico of the gateway faced the temple inside the east gate were three out coves on each side. The three

[00:13:22] had the same measurements and the faces of the projecting walls on each side have the same measurements. Like I cannot picture this in any way whatsoever it's too much it's too many. Yeah

[00:13:33] but there are maps that you can find online if you google. If you were curious what the fuck this all comes to. Then he measured the width of the entrance of the gateway it was 10 cubits

[00:13:46] and its length was 13 cubits in front of each out cove was a wall one cubit high and the out coves were six cubits square. Okay then he measured the gateway from the top of the rear wall

[00:14:00] of one out cove to the top of the opposite one. The distance was 25 cubits from one parapet opening to the opposite one. Got it. Okay. Just can't care. I'm sorry. Yeah no it's really

[00:14:13] fucking boring that's for sure. He measured along the faces of the projecting walls all around the inside of the gateway 60 cubits. The measure was up to the portico facing the courtyard. The measurement was up to the portico facing the courtyard. Okay. The distance from

[00:14:30] the entrance of the gateway to the far end of its portico was 50 cubits. Oh I see pulled up a picture. I pull up something that somebody says is what it might look like I guess so yeah I don't know.

[00:14:42] It's pretty. Yeah sure. Whatever. The out coves and the projecting walls inside the gateway were surrounded by narrow parapet openings all around as was the portico the openings all around faced inward. I am probably going to speed up just to get through the measurements because

[00:14:58] I'm like blah blah blah who cares who cares on paper. The faces of the projecting walls were decorated with palm trees then he brought me into the outer court there I saw some rooms in a

[00:15:08] pavement that had been constructed all around the court. There were 30 rooms along the pavement. Wow. It at butted the sides of the gateways and was as wide as they were long this was the

[00:15:17] lower pavement. Okay. Then he measured the distance from the inside of the lower gateway to the outside of the inner court. It was a hundred cubits on the east side as well as on the north.

[00:15:27] Okay. Then he measured their length and width of the north gate leading into the outer court. I just can't. No, I mean it look. The only reason I can see that this might be something that's in

[00:15:37] the Bible is because it's showing that Ezekiel is prominent enough to receive the instructions to build the new you know the new gentleman's home to build. But other than that with regard to leaving and

[00:15:51] then therefore modern Bible readers it really has no significance at all to anybody at this point because it just doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean I can see a polygess saying you know

[00:16:07] oh it does matter though it's giving us that detail is so rich in detail and that lens to its authenticity and to show how God was in every single detail and blah blah blah like I can see them

[00:16:19] being very excited about the most boring little detail because if God really wanted to prove his significance in his power he'd just snap his fingers and create a fucking temple. What do you mean

[00:16:31] that's so I mean there would be a lot more believable as a power move than having them build it. Yes but and I'm gonna push back on that a little bit because the people would not respect as

[00:16:48] much something that just appeared before them as opposed to something that they built themselves. I right but except for the fact that they haven't actually seen specifically anything any of God's handy worked directly. Right no it's all it's all said through Ezekiel

[00:17:07] or Jeremiah or Isaiah or whoever right these are the people that are telling them that God's miraculously doing these things by sending armies against them and whatever you do. I totally agree with you on that. I'm just saying yeah it would be cool for them to see

[00:17:25] something of God's miracles. Yes that's all I'm saying okay that's all I'm saying. No I agree with you there. It's Alcobs through any side it's projecting walls and it's Puerto Go has the same measurements as those of the first gateway it was 50 quits long and 25 qubits wide.

[00:17:40] You know maybe he could just make like a bathroom or a regular say appear. I'm gonna let them do the whole thing but he makes one of the bathrooms or something like snaps fingers there's the bathroom

[00:17:48] or maybe they finish doing all the work and then he pretties it up. Yeah yeah since you know there are poor people. Make it do a little bit I mean just do something like it's your house dude

[00:17:56] yeah you're building this for you. That's true. Like just add a little personal flare to it. We just want some gold pomegranate like we used to have. Yeah just you know you're God man.

[00:18:06] Yeah do something. It's openings it's Puerto Go and it's palm tree decorations had the same measurements as those of the gate facing east. Seven steps led up to it with its Puerto

[00:18:18] Co opposite them there was a gate on the inner court facing the north gate just as there was on the east. He measured from one gate to the opposite one it was 100 qubits then he led me to

[00:18:29] the south side and I saw the south gate. He measured its jam and it's Puerto Go and they had the same measurements as the others. The gateway in his Puerto Go had narrow openings all around

[00:18:40] like the openings of the others it was 50 qubits long and 25 qubits wide. Seven steps led up to it with its Puerto Co opposite them it had palm tree decorations on the faces of the project

[00:18:52] in walls on each side. Okay yeah. Love me some palm tree decorations. Right yeah. Yeah. The inner court also had a gate facing south and he measured from this gate to the outer gate

[00:19:03] on the south side it was 100 qubits then he brought me under the inner court through the south gate and he measured the south gate it had the same measurements as the others. It's elcoves

[00:19:13] it's projecting walls and it's Puerto Go had the same measurements as the other. I'm shocked I'm shocked the gateway in his Puerto Go had openings all around it was 50 qubits long and 25 qubits wide.

[00:19:24] This is a really like bad way to end as he healed like we had zombies we had we had the dry bone valley with hundreds of eyeballs and wheels and chariots and stuff. Like just

[00:19:39] and now we're now we're building the end the end the end temple. Yeah this is stupid. And you know what they're not like this is 25 years into the exile right so like hypothetically we're

[00:19:48] not going to get to this for like another 40 or 50 years. Right. So why is he? Why is he dictating the plans now? You should wait until later and then give it some of this going to be around at that point

[00:19:59] you know. I'm just saying that would make more sense so. I can't answer that for you. Yeah. I'm not God. No I know. Who knows his ways they are mysterious. I know. I'm beginning to believe it. Nobody does. The porticoes of the gateways around the

[00:20:17] inner court we're 25 qubits wide and five qubits deep. It's Puerto Go faced the outer court palm trees decorated at its jams and eight steps led up to it you know what I'm really

[00:20:29] upset about is that one of those sentences was in parentheses and I was so bored. I forgot to be parentheses. Yeah. And I can't bring myself to go back and read it because it was just

[00:20:42] measurement. Just everybody just imagined that wife just did the parentheses voice and we'll move along. Here I'll do a parentheses voice that's not in parentheses. Okay yeah. This is not parentheses.

[00:20:52] There you go now we got some parentheses voice. Yeah then he brought me to the inner court on the east side and he measured the gateway had the same measurements as the others. No way.

[00:21:01] Outcodes it's projecting walls and it's Puerto Go had the same measurements as the others. Unbelievable. The gateway in it's Puerto Go had openings all around. It was 50 qubits long and 25 qubits wide. It's Puerto Go faced the outer court palm trees decorated the jams on either

[00:21:16] side and eight steps led up to it. The other ones had only seven. No that one's on the inside or whatever there was one there was one with eight all of these two. Okay. I this would be a good

[00:21:27] time to remind everybody that you know I realize that this is like really fucking boring right? Yeah. But if you're one of the fans then I know you're out there. I know I know there's a lot

[00:21:38] of you out there. If you're one of those that is just here to read the whole Bible with us. That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. We're doing it. We're doing it. We're doing the best we can here

[00:21:49] with what we got and what we got is a bunch of shit in this chapter so I don't know what else to say about it other than we'll get through this eventually. We'll get through this together guys.

[00:21:58] Keep going. Then he brought me to the North Gate and measured it. It had the same measurements as the others as did the elbows, it's projecting walls and it's Puerto Go and it had openings all around.

[00:22:09] It was 50 qubits long and 25 qubits wide. It's Puerto Go faced the outer court palm trees decorated the jams on either side and eight steps led up to it. Okay. A room with a doorway was by the

[00:22:20] Quarter Puerto Go in each of the inner gateways where the burnt offerings were washed. That's fine. Got me some burnt offerings up in this bitch. In the Puerto Go of the Gate

[00:22:31] way, we're two tables on each side on which the burn offerings sin offerings and guilt offerings were slaughtered. By the outside wall of the Puerto Go of the Gate way near the steps at the entrance of the North

[00:22:44] gateway were two tables and on the other side of the steps were two tables. So there were four tables on one side of the gate way and four on the other eight tables and all on which the sacrifices

[00:22:56] were slaughtered. Okay. And love the word slaughtered. There were also four tables of dressed stone for the burnt offerings each a qubit and a half long, a qubit and a half wide and a

[00:23:08] qubit high. It is interesting to me how they're referring this as like in the past tense. There were there are, you know, like those are, we're talking about this in a time frame. He's he's seeing

[00:23:22] a vision though so he's like I'm describing what I saw in my vision. So not that God's not only taking him too Jerusalem, he's taking him forward in time even. Yeah. He's time traveling in his vision

[00:23:33] as well as traveling distances across the land in his vision. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I mean that's why he told, um, is God told a Zekiel to tell the people what you saw and so he's saying this is what I

[00:23:49] saw. I saw this and it measured that and then it measured that way. So yeah, it would be in past tense. Got it. Okay. Right. It tracks. Yeah. No, I guess I just mostly find it interesting that God is like

[00:24:01] time traveling with his prophets. Sure. They're least envisions. Sure. It totally makes sense. It doesn't. But okay. I love a time traveling prophet. Yeah. Yeah, it's good stuff. On them were placed the utensils for slaughtering the burnt offerings and the other sacrifices

[00:24:18] and double pronged hooks each a hand breath long were attached to the walls all around. The tables were for the flesh of the offerings outside the intergate within the intercourt were two rooms.

[00:24:32] One at the side of the Northgate and facing south and another at the side of the South gate and facing north. Okay. He said to me, the room facing south is for the priest who guard the temple and the room

[00:24:43] facing north is for the priests who guard the altar. These are the sons of Zekiel. Zekiel. Zekiel. Zekiel. Zekiel. Who are the only Levi to may draw near to the Lord to minister before him?

[00:24:55] Then he measured the court. It was square a hundred cubits long and a hundred cubits wide and the altar was in front of the temple and he brought me to the portico of the temple and

[00:25:06] measure the jams of the portico. They were five cubits wide on either side. The width of the entrance was 14 cubits and it's projecting walls worth three cubits wide on either side. The portico was 20 cubits wide and 12 cubits from front to back. It was reached my flight of stairs

[00:25:23] and there were pillars on each side of the jams the end. You remember that wasn't it? I forgot what book it was in but we talked about at some point how stairs leading

[00:25:36] up to the temple was a bad thing. Yeah, that was at the beginning because then you see up their dresses. Right. And now in this new temple God is literally dictating that they make stairs

[00:25:46] to go up to the temple. stairs stairs. So do you think that this means that they've been under where since then? Probably. I mean, I just can't think of any other reason as to why we would be

[00:25:57] why would be okay to have stairs now versus then unless maybe this temple is now only exclusively for men or something along those lines possibly but it is weird that the direction of earlier

[00:26:11] by the earlier Bible is directly conflicting with the way that they built this one with regard to the stairs. That is true. So I forgot about that until you mentioned it but yeah, I remember

[00:26:21] right now. Right. Stairs good. Stairs bad. Right. Yeah. I just find that odd. We have stairs leading up to our front porch. We sure do. And we have stairs leading to our back porch. Yes, we have that as well.

[00:26:38] Yeah, so I really have nothing else to add with regard to this chapter. But uh, so yeah, let's that was a Zeechil chapter 40. It was very, very anti-climactic into the week and I'm I apologize for that. We can't take responsibility for what's in the Bible.

[00:26:57] No, definitely not. Yeah, but we will be back tomorrow with tomorrow Saturday we'll be back with our Q&A Saturday and we still have yet to get a Drey on. Yes, so we will get that out this week and hypothetically. I'm working on as well.

[00:27:20] I'm working on it guys. And then I will get our weekly wrap up together and put out and then we'll be back on Monday with Zeechil chapter 41. All right, we'll see you then. Bye!

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