Ezekiel Chapter 5: Bible Study BY Atheists

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[00:01:50] Then wife do you know where the hell we are and how the hell we got here

[00:01:55] Well, we just got done reading a z-heel chapter four we sure as fuck did and in that chapter a z-heel

[00:02:02] Was told by God to get a block of clay or something and build Jerusalem

[00:02:08] So we were doing like arts and crafts time and making a miniature dollhouse. Yeah. Yeah, and then we had to get like a

[00:02:15] Plate or something or I don't know some wall

[00:02:17] He's he had to put up a wall between him and this clay Jerusalem, right?

[00:02:22] Mm-hmm. And then so and then God was like and then now

[00:02:27] You're gonna lay on your side for 390 days, right and stare at it and

[00:02:34] You're gonna use human, you know shit to cook your food

[00:02:37] And then you know as he killed like I but but I don't that's against your laws and growth

[00:02:43] I don't want to do that. And then God was like fine

[00:02:46] You can use cow dung

[00:02:48] Fine, but you're still lying there for 390 days. Yeah or more extra is more because he's gonna add on the time for

[00:02:56] Judah on top of the time for Israel or whatever so and you only get one bite of bread per day basically

[00:03:02] Yeah, and a shitty bread too. Yeah shitty bread

[00:03:08] All right, anyway, that was the gist of

[00:03:11] Ezekiel chapter 4 yes, which means that today we're getting into a zekeel chapter 5

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[00:05:05] All right, we are jumping into easy Kyle chapter five is Eekio

[00:05:10] He's a K-Babe

[00:05:13] Yep, God is talking is he yeah talking talking to Ezekiel. Mm-hmm. This is this is a

[00:05:20] Continuation from the last chapter where he was like, you know cook your shit. Yeah, cook your shit on your shit

[00:05:26] Yeah, yeah, and I'm not on a couch it and I'm gonna tell you some things. Yeah, okay

[00:05:32] That's where we are now sure. Yeah

[00:05:34] now

[00:05:36] Son of man you mere human. Yes, son of a bitch. Yeah take a sharp sword and use it as a

[00:05:43] Barbers razor to shave your head and your beard. I

[00:05:49] mean wow

[00:05:51] so

[00:05:53] Not only is he lying on the side for a year and a half and cooking his food over cow dung and

[00:06:01] Staring at a clay model of Jerusalem through a pan or something

[00:06:06] Mm-hmm, and now he has to shave with a sword with the sword. Okay. Yep. All right now

[00:06:10] We know what shaving represents, right the baldness

[00:06:15] It was a sign of mourning mourning or of great

[00:06:19] disgrace yeah, yeah, and shaving like that was forbidden to a priest like Ezekiel

[00:06:26] Because it was ordinarily it meant the loss of priestly status and position. Oh, okay, you know

[00:06:33] He's really given him

[00:06:36] What for you know or he's gone off the complete deep end. Yeah. Yeah, I mean something something's up

[00:06:42] Yeah, so he's telling them shave all your shit. Okay. Yeah, then he says with a sword with a sword with a sword

[00:06:48] Then take a set of scales and divide up the hair

[00:06:54] Listen

[00:06:57] Listen, I'm gonna tell you what he's gonna do with the the division

[00:07:01] He gets to make a pillow out of one of them

[00:07:04] Almost okay almost actually kind of but not really okay, but not really. All right. Hey, you be the judge

[00:07:10] Okay, yeah when the days of your siege come to an end burn a third of the hair inside the city

[00:07:18] Okay, take a third and strike it with the sword all around the city and scatter a third to the wind

[00:07:26] For I will pursue them with a drawn sword

[00:07:29] So each third represents some of the people some of them are gonna die in the city

[00:07:34] Got it by fire and famine and whatever sure some are gonna get killed with a sword

[00:07:38] And some are just gonna be scattered to the winds every which way. Okay. Yeah, okay

[00:07:42] Here's where we get to maybe a pillow sure

[00:07:45] But take a few hairs and tuck them away in the folds of your garment

[00:07:51] Again, take a few of these and throw them into the fire and burn them up

[00:07:55] What okay fire will spread from there to all Israel. I see so he does get to sew a couple

[00:08:03] Into his little coat thing. Yeah, whatever he's wearing

[00:08:07] But then he just takes it but so he's gonna take a couple and that's the remnant. I guess yes, exactly

[00:08:14] Okay, all right

[00:08:15] But then he's also gonna take a couple and throw in the fire and that's gonna spread to the rest of this stuff

[00:08:19] Yeah, okay, like he's basically all his hair is

[00:08:25] Representative of the people and what's gonna happen to them got it. Okay. Yeah, so

[00:08:30] So something else though that's interesting is

[00:08:34] I just I have to read this note because this is like kind of wowed me a little bit

[00:08:39] Just in a like literary sense. Can you imagine the smell that must have yes, actually I can because I did

[00:08:47] Burn my hair accidentally does not smell good. It smells

[00:08:51] horrendous so me and this friend of mine we were sitting in this restaurant, right and

[00:08:57] it was like

[00:08:59] So quiet yeah when we talked to each other like it sounded loud, right?

[00:09:04] So we were both leaned across the table to each other she and I try to keep it a little quieter

[00:09:09] Yeah, you know, we could kind of be like, you know keeping it between us and not like the staff right

[00:09:15] Yeah, you know restaurant. Yeah, and we smelled this horrendous smell and we were like what the fuck is that?

[00:09:22] It was my fucking hair in the candle

[00:09:26] in the fucking candle on the table and

[00:09:29] I will never forget how horrible that smell. I mean it was rotten. Yeah, why why does it smell like that?

[00:09:37] I don't know just because I mean maybe it's maybe it's meant to smell like that

[00:09:41] So that way you know when you're on fire, right?

[00:09:45] Stop drop and roll babes

[00:09:48] I wasn't on fire, but my hair was burning right and it was not good. Yeah, so

[00:09:55] I had to go get a trim the next day to even my hair out. Yeah, yeah, not good. Don't do it. No, okay

[00:10:02] No, okay, so listen to this

[00:10:04] Isaiah prophesied over a century before this time. Okay that

[00:10:09] Judah would be shaved by the razor of Assyria

[00:10:14] That was in Isaiah chapter 7. Okay, so just from the literary

[00:10:21] Circular yeah way that that's written. I appreciate that

[00:10:25] If this was a book, I would be like, oh nice. Okay, right like nice callback. Yeah

[00:10:31] Obviously, this is not high literature. So right. It's annoying, right?

[00:10:36] Yeah, and you know again

[00:10:38] I'll wait to hear the final word on when this was all written but

[00:10:42] Much of the the prophecy shit seems to have been written

[00:10:46] After the stuff has already happened. Yeah, so I don't really I don't really take a lot of stock in it

[00:10:51] But I totally agree with you. I just I wanted to read that because it's like, oh, okay

[00:10:57] Okay, I see what you did there. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so alright, so that fire is gonna spread blah blah blah

[00:11:02] Okay, this is what the sovereign Lord says ready. I'm ready. Okay

[00:11:07] This is Jerusalem which I have set in the center of the nations with countries all around her

[00:11:14] Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees

[00:11:19] More than the nations and countries around her. Hmm. She has rejected my law

[00:11:25] Shit on that because the countries around her quote-unquote were sacrificing babies

[00:11:31] Okay, but here's the thing and I'm not even a little bit trying to defend

[00:11:37] Right. Yeah

[00:11:39] What God has peeved about is not what they were up to or what they weren't up to yeah

[00:11:45] They were worshiping their God as they were supposed to right his people

[00:11:50] Rejected him. That's what he's angry about

[00:11:55] Not the sacrificing of babies again

[00:11:58] I feel like he would have just spoke up a couple of times here and there other than sending his message through really

[00:12:04] Unreliable fucking prophets then it might have worked out a lot better for them

[00:12:08] You know deciding that God was real, right?

[00:12:10] So I don't have a lot of empathy for God's plate here with regard to how he feels about the Israelites

[00:12:16] No, I totally agree with you

[00:12:19] This kind of relates to the story of the prodigal son. Are you familiar with that? Yeah?

[00:12:24] So it's the whole but the good one was being good all the time

[00:12:28] Why are you so happy that you know the one that was bad came home?

[00:12:32] This is kind of like the inverse of that sure

[00:12:34] Sure, but the people over there they were doing what they were supposed to be doing

[00:12:38] He wasn't mad at them. Those aren't his people. He doesn't give a little know they didn't know yeah, so

[00:12:45] Why why would he care what other people are doing? I

[00:12:48] Murdering babies. That's fine. Whatever do that. I mean, I guess that's fair ish

[00:12:53] But if in Canon not in actual practice like we're talking about a God who who hypothetically

[00:13:00] Created all of the universe all of the earth all the people on it all the things that live on it

[00:13:07] Everything right and I still cannot wrap my head around why he only cares about this small group of people

[00:13:14] I cannot it makes literally no sense to me

[00:13:17] No, I and it takes a lot of the

[00:13:21] The believability out of the story like this doesn't this doesn't track man

[00:13:26] It doesn't make sense right like just on a on a on a metis or a

[00:13:30] On a you know macro scale, right? It does not make sense

[00:13:36] Right this all powerful God is

[00:13:39] caring about you know

[00:13:42] 100,000 people right why why does why why does he care about them more than the rest of everybody else

[00:13:49] Right like that. Yeah, I don't get it either so that that bothers me as well. It should yeah

[00:13:55] What bothers me is that God?

[00:13:58] Literally is pissed about his ego

[00:14:02] More than he's pissed about any babies anywhere being sacrificed any God ever, right?

[00:14:08] He doesn't give a fuck about those babies. Yeah, he's pissed because his little pride his

[00:14:13] Weiner got stepped on yeah cuz his people aren't worshiping him hard enough or whatever or at all word all yeah

[00:14:21] He's he's sad. He's in his feels fuck him. Yeah, I agree

[00:14:26] So he's talking about his precious people

[00:14:30] She his nation has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees

[00:14:36] Yeah

[00:14:38] Therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says you have been more unruly than the nations around you and have not followed

[00:14:45] My decrees or kept my laws you have not even conformed to the standards of the nations around you

[00:14:52] Okay, that's that's actually kind of a cool argument

[00:14:55] Right cuz he's like it not only aren't you worshiping me which is bad enough

[00:14:59] But all these other little religions that you adopted you're not even doing them right you stupid

[00:15:04] Well, it sounds I mean like the way we've taken this that they're kind of just like a mix match of all the little

[00:15:10] Localish gods and they're just like whichever one, you know, I don't care as long as it does the trick

[00:15:15] You know, yeah

[00:15:16] And this is fine

[00:15:17] They're right in them like like they've said even in this chapter like they're right in the middle of all these different cultures

[00:15:22] Right so obviously they're gonna be influenced by these other people. You know, it's just it's natural to be influenced by

[00:15:30] Surrounding cultures, you know, well, yeah, and it's kind of good like it opens you up to learning about other ways

[00:15:39] right and other

[00:15:41] lifestyles and other

[00:15:44] virtues and makes you you know question what you stand for and

[00:15:50] You know

[00:15:51] Reaffirm maybe what you stand for or adopted broader view. Yeah, so and God doesn't want that

[00:15:58] He wants you to remain only static right

[00:16:02] You know, that could be part of their problem with regard to getting conquered and war things that are happening because you know

[00:16:08] There there's a faction of the Israelites that that wants them to be very

[00:16:13] closed down right that wants to be very

[00:16:17] Nationalistic and just within themselves kind of like the Republicans today, right?

[00:16:21] And so maybe them not opening up to the other cultures was part of the problem as to why they were having all these warring issues

[00:16:28] Yeah, so I mean, I don't know like you could look at that from that perspective and say maybe they you know

[00:16:34] Maybe they didn't reach out to these other cultures enough, right, you know instead of

[00:16:41] Focusing on God, maybe they should have focused on these other people. Yeah, so who knows yeah, who knows

[00:16:47] Therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says

[00:16:50] I myself am against you Jerusalem. Yeah fuckers and I will inflict punishment on you in the sight of the nations

[00:16:59] Right, so he's like not only am I gonna stab you my own people cuz I'm pissed at you

[00:17:04] I'm gonna do it in such a way as that it's on the stage

[00:17:09] Right, and they'll get to see you and laugh at you and point at you

[00:17:12] Yeah, so you're gonna die but also be shamed right because as you're dying

[00:17:17] Shame is really what you're gonna be worried about while you're starving to death and boiling your baby

[00:17:22] No, this is why this is why God's Nassau because this is really just him enjoying what he's doing

[00:17:28] Yeah, like it again in Canon this God is enjoying the misery and pain

[00:17:34] He's bringing to quote-unquote his people

[00:17:36] I mean that tracks because the Christian Republican Party today like the thing that we say most about them is

[00:17:45] The cruelty is the point right, you know

[00:17:48] Yeah, and that that tracks their God is

[00:17:52] Where they get this from well cruelty is the point and even today

[00:17:55] I think that a lot of the the Christian culture is based on on a large amount of self self loathing

[00:18:03] Like they they are brought to God through self loathing

[00:18:06] They are they are driven to these ideas through through self loathing and that was very prominent in the Old Testament

[00:18:12] Like that's I mean these people are told you're a sinner

[00:18:16] You suck before you were ever born you were already trash and garbage right like you've been told from the day that you're born

[00:18:23] That you are trash. It's a very abusive

[00:18:28] Relationship that they have with this God their religion and and what do people who have been abused do they abuse other people?

[00:18:34] Mm-hmm hurt people they hurt other people

[00:18:37] Yeah, so I mean the fact that we are dealing with what we deal with in

[00:18:41] In the now yeah is not really that surprising in my opinion right that that's why I said it right right

[00:18:48] Yeah, no, I totally with you. Yep

[00:18:51] Because of all of your detestable idols I will do to you what I have never done before and will never do again

[00:18:59] I would do you believe that no because it's happening right fucking now so bullshit

[00:19:04] Well, he kind of said the same thing after the fucking flood where he killed everybody. Yeah, I'm never gonna

[00:19:09] That's what the rainbow was about right well

[00:19:11] No, he didn't say he would never kill in large quantities. He just said he would never do it via flood

[00:19:17] I know I'm just saying like it's such a loophole

[00:19:20] You could have read it in the if you wanted to be you know if you wanted to believe in a gracious God

[00:19:26] You could have read it to say that he's never gonna do it again

[00:19:29] He would never kill his people I could have interpreted it that way if I wanted to right but you but obviously

[00:19:35] He does kill people in large quantities again, so you can't read it that way if you want to believe right

[00:19:40] But it's just

[00:19:43] He's like I'll never flood you again, but I'll do other stuff and then he's like okay, okay

[00:19:49] Okay, I'll never flood you and I'll never

[00:19:53] Make you like starve to death in your own city and boil your own children ever again

[00:19:59] Right, how many different scenarios do we have to come across before we're done with all the fucking killing you're gonna do to us, right?

[00:20:06] You're a dick God you're a dick

[00:20:09] You don't exist but in this book you're a dick and therefore your followers are dicks

[00:20:16] Yeah, so thanks for that right therefore in your midst parents will eat their children and children will eat their parents

[00:20:24] Okay, I'm for that if I'm being honest

[00:20:27] I mean I if it were up to me whether we get eaten or we eat our children

[00:20:32] I'd rather they eat us. Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean a good parent

[00:20:36] It's not good any way around no, but a decent parent will hope that their child survives them. Yeah, because I just be like knock me out first

[00:20:43] Man, yeah, like yeah, I don't want to be able. I don't we'll wait for that shit, right?

[00:20:48] No, tell me quick or how about like okay?

[00:20:51] One of us is gonna have to die to feed the other like turn around

[00:20:55] I will off myself you don't have to be part of it

[00:20:59] But I want you to be able to survive another day sure so that maybe help can come right, you know

[00:21:05] Yeah, like your kids obviously have a lot more future ahead of them than yeah the parents do so well

[00:21:11] You're supposed to you're supposed to want your children to have a better longer healthier happier life than you did right?

[00:21:17] Like each generation should want better for the next generation

[00:21:21] But again they worship a God that is okay with letting them eat their children and vice versa. Yeah

[00:21:29] so

[00:21:31] The values of these people and the values of that God I just can't right you know, yeah, whatever I

[00:21:38] Will inflict punishment punishment on you says God and will scatter all your survivors to the winds

[00:21:46] So, you know just like the hairs. Yeah

[00:21:49] Therefore as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord

[00:21:54] Because you have defiled my sanctuary with all your vile images and detestable practices

[00:22:01] I myself will shave you. I will not look on you with pity or spare you

[00:22:07] A third of your people will die of the plague or perish by famine inside you

[00:22:14] A third will fall by the sword outside your walls and a third I will scatter to the winds and pursue with drawn sword

[00:22:23] Okay, then though then yeah, then then is gonna get nice again

[00:22:27] Yeah, my anger will cease and my wrath against the most upside. Yay, and I will be avenged

[00:22:32] Okay. Yeah after I kill

[00:22:35] You know the majority of you I'll be happy then

[00:22:37] Can you imagine if if it was okay to be like you don't worship me enough? So I'm just gonna kill you

[00:22:43] Yeah, that's oh, that's not okay. No, right. No, no, we don't do that. Right. That's not. Oh, that's not good

[00:22:50] Murder isn't great guys. Let's not no. Yeah

[00:22:54] And when I have spent my wrath on them, Jesus Christ this language

[00:23:00] We they will know that I the lord have spoken in my zeal

[00:23:05] Mm. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm so this is making me so

[00:23:11] Angry and just like what the fuck is wrong with you people that you believe this and you pray to this

[00:23:16] Oh, yeah

[00:23:17] I will make you a ruin and a reproach among the nations around you in the sight of all who pass by

[00:23:26] You will be a reproach and a taunt

[00:23:29] A warning and an object of horror to the nations around you when I inflict punishment on you in anger

[00:23:37] And in wrath and with stinging rebuke

[00:23:41] Are the lord have spoken

[00:23:43] That that little bit right there sounds a little bit more like the Jeremiah stuff that we were reading. Yeah, like it's just there's a very

[00:23:50] Normal on the getcha. Yeah. Yeah, well, I am not just Jeremiah, but Isaiah and whatever like it's the I'm a getcha of it

[00:23:57] Yeah, right. Yeah

[00:23:59] When I shoot at you with my deadly and destructive arrows of famine

[00:24:03] I will shoot to destroy you

[00:24:08] I love how we had to describe

[00:24:10] Just how deadly and destructive the arrows were because arrows wasn't enough, right? But you know, yeah

[00:24:15] It was not just arrows, but deadly ones and destructive ones. Yeah

[00:24:22] I will bring more and more famine upon you and cut off your supply of food

[00:24:27] I will send famine and wild beasts against you and they will leave you childless

[00:24:33] You know what this reminds me of when we were watching

[00:24:37] the Benedict Cumberbatch version of Sherlock and

[00:24:43] Moriarty looks at him and says I'll burn you. I'll burn the heart out of you, right?

[00:24:48] Right. That's that's what God like God is that evil character. Yeah, right? Yeah

[00:24:54] Like I'm picturing Moriarty saying this. Yeah, there's a problem with that. No, and there's in my mind

[00:25:00] I'm like eventually we get to Jesus, right?

[00:25:04] And and I'm having really really like

[00:25:08] Based on based on my rudimentary understanding of what Jesus stands for

[00:25:12] I'm really struggling with how we get there from here. Yeah, you know, like this this just is not

[00:25:18] Like how does Jesus not look at all of this and goes I want

[00:25:22] Nothing to do with that. Nope. I'm out. Right. Yeah, like why did he not run away and be like, oh, no

[00:25:29] I'm not that I'm not son of that guy. Right. That guy's a dick. Yeah. Yeah

[00:25:35] Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you and I will bring the sword against you

[00:25:41] Either lord have spoken the end has he now he spoke. Okay. He spoke

[00:25:45] Um, I don't generally like it when he speaks no because he's a dick

[00:25:50] He is very much dick and he's mean

[00:25:53] Yes

[00:25:53] He's murdery and mean

[00:25:56] yeah

[00:25:58] The the imagery that that

[00:26:00] He said like the the imagery that goes on when he is speaking

[00:26:04] Is so dark and and just overwhelming with regard to how

[00:26:09] Awful it is, you know, like I was watching youtube

[00:26:14] Reaction channel things and this girl was um reacting to tick talks of people with crazy X's

[00:26:23] Yeah, right and the crazy X's we're saying some of this shit like I hate you. I'm gonna kill you

[00:26:29] I'm gonna get you. You know what I mean, right? And I'm like you sound like a crazy person god

[00:26:36] Well, I think that this is honestly like

[00:26:39] This is the the cause of a lot of the the problems that we have in our society

[00:26:45] This behavior is something that is just ingrained in one of the largest

[00:26:50] Um

[00:26:51] Social structures we have, you know, which is religion

[00:26:54] And so it's it's been made to be accepted as a way of operating that especially when men are given the

[00:27:05] They're they're next to god, right? Like the men are in charge of the women

[00:27:09] That's that's the way it's laid out through the bible through through religion

[00:27:12] You know like that's not what progressives or we think or anything like that, right?

[00:27:16] But that's through the bible and and especially the more repressed bible groups

[00:27:21] Um, the man is definitely in charge of the woman, right? So these behaviors

[00:27:27] Are very much in line with how the ot god

[00:27:31] Operates it's it's it's all fire and brimstone. It's all you know awful shit

[00:27:36] I hate you. I'm gonna get back at you so hard

[00:27:39] You're gonna die forever

[00:27:42] And ever and then us as as people who worship this god or whatever are supposed to just come back and be

[00:27:48] Okay with it much like the wife who gets abused, right from their husband that is treating their wife the same way

[00:27:54] Or the children or whatever. Yeah, and and it's been societally

[00:27:58] Accepted that that's an okay way to act for men

[00:28:01] because

[00:28:03] This right because of this and this is one of the biggest reasons why I feel

[00:28:08] We have to say these things we have to read this book

[00:28:12] Because we have to know what the fuck we're talking about when we say

[00:28:17] The bible is influencing our culture and our laws in america

[00:28:22] And it's fucking problematic. Yeah, and this is why atheists are pissed

[00:28:27] Christians you keep asking

[00:28:29] Why we're so mad and why we're so up in the bible all the time

[00:28:34] This this is why right it stands for some really just god awful shit

[00:28:40] And it's not okay, right?

[00:28:43] You you can just decide that you're just

[00:28:46] Spiritual or whatever like that that's that's fine

[00:28:49] And I'll probably accept you out on on your level and be okay with who you are

[00:28:53] Because you accept people and you're not a complete asshole

[00:28:56] And i'm fine with that to an extent. Mm-hmm, but it's still

[00:29:00] Based on this same religion that is based on a fucking shitty ass god, right?

[00:29:06] I I was reading in um reddit

[00:29:10] People there's like this subreddit about why do

[00:29:14] Atheists read the bible and why can't atheists?

[00:29:18] Um be converted blah blah blah and like all of the answers were

[00:29:23] Along the same line as you know

[00:29:26] Well if your heart is hardened then of course the bible looks horrible and full of gibberish

[00:29:31] You can't get the message and they're like talking about how you know

[00:29:36] You have to understand it from the whole perspective blah blah blah and you know, they're not able to and i'm like

[00:29:42] You are justifying all of this well and I call bullshit on that because we have

[00:29:47] We have people that we know that listen to our podcast

[00:29:50] I know of people that i've listened to and interviews

[00:29:53] They were very very enveloped in in religion and and and feeling the god feels and and all the things

[00:30:01] And they they fully believed and even came down on atheists, you know in their previous life before they converted over to an atheist

[00:30:11] By reading the bible by reading the bible by you know

[00:30:14] Something caught them up, you know something something stopped them and made them do a little bit more research

[00:30:19] Right and that's how they became an atheist right, but they were in the same camp

[00:30:25] They were in that same

[00:30:26] You know boat that a lot of people who are shitty towards us

[00:30:31] Are right now, right and you you can't tell them that they didn't they don't know what that's like

[00:30:37] They do i've talked to them. I know them right and you know, you and I we don't know what it's like

[00:30:43] We were never there. We were never fully

[00:30:45] immersed in religion, right? Yeah, it was never a thing that we'd had but

[00:30:50] We know people that for sure were and

[00:30:55] They they know exactly what you what it is to to feel god's presence and they know exactly what it is to be touched by god

[00:31:02] And all these things yeah, it's just that they stopped believing because they got tripped up because there's a lot to get tripped up on

[00:31:08] because rape and slavery and

[00:31:11] vengeance and murder and

[00:31:14] rape and

[00:31:16] Cutting people up dancing in their blood

[00:31:19] And if you let somebody stop telling you what to believe about the bible and you try to learn it for yourself

[00:31:24] You might actually end up closer to where we are right than where you are now

[00:31:28] On top of feeling betrayed because you were tricked and lied to sure and i'm not even saying that you'll you'll become an atheist

[00:31:34] Right. I we also know people that are very much not atheist but have

[00:31:40] softened their view

[00:31:42] because they have chosen to

[00:31:44] Research and learn about the bible and christianity and judaism and all that. Yeah, so

[00:31:51] You you have to be willing to

[00:31:53] Not take someone's word

[00:31:56] That this is what this belief is right and do the research yourself to get out of the cycle of shittiness

[00:32:02] Right, and that's the only thing that's gonna

[00:32:05] Stop a lot of these behaviors that happen

[00:32:08] because of

[00:32:09] Christianity

[00:32:11] Mostly is christianity at this point. Yeah, judaism is a lot better with regard to

[00:32:16] Understanding their flaws and and doing research for the most part for the most part and they're a lot more progressive for the most part

[00:32:22] For the most part. Yeah, so um, yeah, it's the right-leaning christian group that is in the united states

[00:32:28] That is that that is the biggest problem. Yeah

[00:32:31] Anyway, do you have anything else to add today or i could impossibly?

[00:32:36] Sorry, I know I went off on a little bit of a tangent there. I think we both did. Yeah, I just I

[00:32:41] This this angry god makes me angry. Yeah, I don't know how to say it because it's not it's not justified and people justify it

[00:32:49] And that's part of the problem. It's not just that this god

[00:32:55] feels like his anger is justifiable and that his um

[00:32:59] actions based on that anger are justifiable it's that people today justify it right and use that same

[00:33:07] Argument against other people and it's not okay 100%

[00:33:12] Um, so anyway that was today. It was uh, azekiel chapter five sure as fuck was and today's friday

[00:33:18] So that means that tomorrow we will be back with qna saturday

[00:33:23] And then I think we're well overdue for a patreon episode

[00:33:28] So probably be getting into that

[00:33:31] Um, and then I'll get the weekly wrap up out and then we'll be back on monday with

[00:33:36] azekiel chapter six. All right. We'll see you guys then

[00:33:39] Bye

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