Hosea Chapter 10: Bible Study by Atheists

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. For this is what the sovereign Lord says,

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want?

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_05]: then you can justify any of your behavior. A lot of this mentality is trickling into

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_05]: what is now mainstream right wing Christianity. I am capable of empathy

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_05]: greater than this God of the Bible. This is a Bible that they tell kids. This is a Bible

[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_05]: this is the good book. This is the good book. This is he is being deciding about murder, mass murder.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't find a slave because I have a new name called Wacheld. Then you can

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: name a man named Tune on your slave by Neuro-Demitis to defend and you don't know

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Schlaffem Minus-Mitt Minus-Norodemitis. Point N4.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: That is just too many singing episodes and one go.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I am going to say that I might rant more. I feel like I have been pinned up

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and now I'm set free.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, I can tell. It sits you've even between our episodes. You were ranting

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_05]: in the entire time.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I was talking about AI and stuff.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and all kinds of other things.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. There was that.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_05]: So we just cut down reading Josea chapter eight.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_05]: No, we were not. No, I'm so sorry.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Josea chapter nine. And once again,

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_05]: we talked about Israel's idolatry and unfaithfulness

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_05]: and God's going to give them consequences.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to have kids if they go to the fertility gods

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and God's going to give them a baby and kill their kids and reject them.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And kill their kids some more because that's what God does apparently as kill kids.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Love it. As punishment for worshiping other gods.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. So I love and old Israel,

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: like story about Yahweh killing babies

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and then for Christian people today to tell me that Israelites eat babies.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I like you are backwards.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So I generally bring up a summary that I have Google right for me about what the last chapter was about,

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: just to prompt my memory.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And I want to share this bit because it,

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to share this bit.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. So it says about Josea chapter nine. It says in one part of the summary, it says,

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_05]: while the chapter portrays God's anger,

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_05]: it also hints at his deep love and desire for his people to repent and return to him.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't. I don't really consider child murder as love

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and any stretch of the imagination.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Deep or otherwise. Right.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just kind of hinted. Right.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It spilled out child murder but it did hint at God's love.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I understand Google wants to walk the line with regard to Christianity

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and how it is such a prominent force in our society.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But I feel like child murder kind of crosses the line between love and hate

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and stays on the hate side there.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And look at lie. Just don't say anything.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: You know? To be fair on that account,

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: it did actually not give me a summary on the first try.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I had to go to one of the drafts in order to find it.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: People like, oh, do I have to? This talks about some murder.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: They're AI thing that I use.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I said, just uses a prompting sting.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_05]: But it walks a line with regard to politics and then that religion.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You have to be, you have to word things carefully sometimes.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But even with the word incorrectly,

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I just asked for summary of the last chapter.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It had some trouble with that. So interesting.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_05]: See how that goes in the future.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I could find some reason out there other places.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just an easy thing to type in before the podcast.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's nice to have.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But I thought that was interesting.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_05]: But the love is just not there for me.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't see that as being a thing.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: No, you can't justify that. I don't care.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You can try, but I'm not going to hear you.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Right, right.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Because even the trying, like really,

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you want me to give you a fair listen while you attempt to justify child death to me.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Not child death.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Child murder.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. Thank you.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to not listen to you.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And you can talk to your blue and the mother fucking face.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. How about that?

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. Yeah. I agree.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, that was Josea chapter nine.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It sure is fuck was.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Which means that today we're reading.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Josea chapter 10, or is I like to call him?

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's head?

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_05]: All right. Let's do this.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. Don't keep.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to talk about how to stop

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: going into Josea chapter 10, or is I like to call the dude?

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's head?

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he sure is fuck is.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we could say it's Josea because that's the more

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_05]: legitimate reason, but he is just saying the words of

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: God, according to the Bible.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So that would make God those dead.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Blaming their all kind of who's head.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. Yeah.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So Israel was a spreading vine.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. He brought forth fruit for himself.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: As his fruit increased, he built more altars as his land

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: prospered.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He adorned his sacred stones.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Kind of how things go.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting that we're referring to Israel as a he instead of a she.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. Because oftentimes they refer to it as she.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: She. Yeah.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they were talking about God marrying Israel and stuff like that.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So they're hard as deceitful and now they must bear their guilt.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: The Lord will demolage their altars.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: There's the love and destroy their secret stones.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_05]: How loving.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Boom crash.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Then they will say we have no king because we did not

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Revears the Lord.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But even if we had a king, what could he do for us?

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, things making me a system.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: They make many promises.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They make a grievance.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: They're for lawsuits.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Break up like poisonous weeds in a cloud.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_05]: We have God talking about lawsuits.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: God cares about courts.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And not to happen.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: That's so fucking weird.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so obvious that this is man made.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the part that I can't get over is that.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we pretend with you.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We have to pretend because people people believe that this God is like a real thing.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: But reading through this, there's so many points.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many things that just pop up randomly.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I said, can't you just can't you see that is not real?

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_05]: That's this isn't real guys.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to say something.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I was talking to a friend online who was kind of surprised when I said,

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've been reading the Bible.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll blah, blah, blah, blah, blah because we're doing it for this podcast that we run.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, oh, so how long have you been doing this?

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I told him over four years.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, well, how many times have been through?

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, no, we're still on our first time and we're only at Hosea.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, you have taken four years to get that far.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, mother fucker, we read at least three to five chapters every week.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, it is taking us four years because there's a lot of mother fucking chapters.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, have you read it?

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yes, multiple times.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right?

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Now he's not a Christian.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So I tend to believe that he has ripped through it.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know if I believe that he's read it and multiple times and not taking years

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: to do it.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I question that a little bit.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like how the fuck.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing this in less than even all year?

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the, I mean, it's a monumental, it's a large task to read Bible.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: We've got a list of, like, I know we spend in the northern and amount of time per chapter, right?

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Because we discuss it.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: We talk about it and whatever, right?

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And I appreciate that.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I like that we spend the time on those chapters and we talk about them, right?

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I agree.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But even if you were ripping through it, like, I don't think I would have the ability to force

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: myself to read enough of that every night to get it through it and a reasonable amount.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Like it would take at least a year.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_05]: No, like, and that's ripping through and I feel like.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is a lot of shit, you know?

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I gave us three to five chapters per week because in an ideal week we read

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: A chapter every night Monday through Friday, right?

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But I know that some weeks we don't always get that other one or sometimes we skip a

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: week or two.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I said on average, three to five episodes per week.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds good.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, three to five chapters per week.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was just like, we've been plugging away at this for four years and in this guy's mind,

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: it's nothing.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm just like, I don't know how much I don't know.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_05]: You can, I think people like to, it's like the fish tail, right?

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, it's this big but no, it's this big now.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So you may have read the Bible.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You may have even read it twice.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_05]: But I've been it took longer than your kind of admitting right here in this conversation.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe even longer than you remember, right?

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I just, if you're reading the book that's riveting and it's a long big book,

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I can see blasting through it, right?

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you get sucked in, you're reading it more than you should.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_05]: You're like, I'm going to finish this shit, right?

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_05]: But you pick up the Bible.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_05]: There is nothing in there that's propelling you forward and being like, oh, I got to find out what happened.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_05]: No, God killed people.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what happened.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And he hates people and then he needs them to worship him and bow to him and then he'll love you.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes there's rules, lots of rules from many rules.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's, there's people that had other people.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they had other people.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They began to get it.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_05]: There was a lot of other people.

[00:11:01] Yeah.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I don't know why we got off on that topic.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It just like bothered me like, how dare.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're not doing nothing here.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I know that they, I bet that I know.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I know that they didn't have as much fun as we do.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I will give you that.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a fact.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That is a fact.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_02]: To carry on the people who live in Samaria fear for the calf idol of Betha von.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's people will mourn over it.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And so will it's idolatrous priests.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Those who had rejoiced over it's splendor because it is taken from them into exile.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It will be carried to a Syria as tribute for the great king.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Ephraim will be disgraced.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Israel will be ashamed of its foreign alliances.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Samaria's king will be destroyed.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Swept away like a twig on the surface of the waters.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: This is all like, um.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So they're just, they're like reveling in the fact that they're, they're northern,

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_05]: um, they're northern people.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_05]: They're northern people.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Neighbors are getting fucked over and that their golden calf is being taken as, uh,

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: tribute to their king, the king that conquered them in a Syria.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of shitty.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You know?

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's number nice.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And really we've talked about this before.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_05]: The golden calf, that whole thing that was part of what Northern Israel was worshipping,

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_05]: was actually Yahweh.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a different method of worship.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: So while they were different tribes and they were different ways of worshipping the same God,

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and I understand the argument, right?

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Like there's all kinds of arguments within the US between different sex Catholicism and Protestant.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: There's arguments all over the place.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't, I don't get reveling in their downfall, right?

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You, you kind of have empathy for these are, these are people that you used to consider

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_05]: part of your own tribe, right?

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You guys believe in the same fucking God even if you don't worship in the same way.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think that they really like the way this is written.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_05]: It feels like they tried to distance themselves from saying it's the same God, right?

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_05]: They mentioned the golden calf all the time.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_05]: They don't mention that they, they worship a similar God.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So they definitely try to distinguish and separate themselves out from this God.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, I feel like it was a large division and that's why, you know,

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_05]: there no longer are speaking terms or nice to each other.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess that applies more today when we're talking about Catholics and Protestants

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and Jews and Muslims, right?

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You guys all literally worship the same God.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Literally.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_05]: They all belong to this, they're all Abrahamic religions.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And yet some of you are more golden calf and others of you are more like mystical magical Easter eggs.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But if you ask, if you walk out on the street and ask the average Christian about,

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, Islam, right?

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_05]: They're not gonna, they don't probably know most of them that that is the same God that they worship.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_05]: It's, it springs from the same religion.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_05]: It springs from the same origins, right?

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_05]: They just believe in different prophets stories and different stories along the way that end up with, you know, a split narrative.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And, but they don't know, they don't know this.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_05]: They don't understand this and they hate those people so much.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_05]: That they can't, you probably couldn't even convince them of that.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, or if you did it would be, they would, well, you know,

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it doesn't count.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: But no, it's all, they're all Abrahamic religions.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: They all sprung from the same place and, you know, we're fighting over details.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, details is what we're fighting over.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: No, what we're really fighting over, let's be honest, is land and resources.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Political structures and, you know, the whole, that's all still part of it today.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_05]: As it was back then, and we talk about that very often,

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_05]: reading through the Bible that these are more political moono maneuvers than they are.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Actual God worshiping.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just instead of saying, I want this land gimme.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: They say, God wants me to have this land gimme.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It's convenient way of not, you know, it's pruning the, the shittingness that you're doing.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's putting a third party and unenvolved third party.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the person at the cash register, this says,

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know man.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I just work here.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not the manager.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that the price is.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't be mad at me.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, is that guy?

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The high places of wickedness will be destroyed.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It is the soon of Israel.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Thorns and thisels will grow up and cover their alters.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't really like thorns and thisels.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I do like thorns and thisels.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Last time it was briars, thorns and briars.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: This time it's thorns and thisels.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I got a story about thorns.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you?

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So I've talked about being in scouts before.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You have many times.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But when I was in scouts, there was this special thing that you could get voted into and it was called the order of the arrow.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think I'm really even technically supposed to talk about this.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going to.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Goodness.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_05]: So the order of the arrow is this your tribe, your tribe?

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_05]: No, not tribe.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_05]: What do we call them?

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_05]: It was the troop.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is the tribe?

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Every year at summer camp, we would hold a vote.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, depending on the size of your troop, one or two people would get into the order of the arrow.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It was more of like a leadership, you know, type program that they had for scouts.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And when you got voted into this, there was this whole ceremony where you didn't duck did and then you have to come back for a special camp for this order of the arrow.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And as part of this camp, you have to take a vow of silence.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_05]: You're not allowed to speak the entire week that you're there for this camp.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh shit.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And you have to, they feed you very minimal food like you get like very, very small meals and you don't get a tent.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_05]: You sleep out into the stars and the less, of course, it starts raining then they would move you under a shelter.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: This sounds like so we religious spirit.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, there is that aspect too.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, order of the arrow, come on. It kind of, it denotes kind of what it is. They're, they're angling toward a Native American aspect of what they were trying to do, I think.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Some, some more between a Jesus, the guy and a native American.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is very interesting how scouts kind of mix that whole Native American and God into this one like little.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: This little pot, you know.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, that is interesting.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_05]: But so this gives me to the part of my story where, okay.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_05]: We were working on this dam that was at this, this, this, this, we who, the, all the people that were out for this camp,

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So you were one of the arrow.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I was one of the people that was there.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness, you were in order of the arrow guys.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. So we were, we were working on a dam and we were clearing brush away from it and just silently.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, silently. Right? And we were walking along the edge of the dam and there was kind of like a large drop off on the side.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_05]: But there was a bunch of thorns, like these giant thorns. Like they were like about an inch to an inch and a half long.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: In this big, bryar bush that was like right there on the side of the, the dam.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, one of the people that was with us lost his footing and fell into that thorn patch.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh. Yeah. And so there was the, the briefest moment where the other guys that were with me, we kind of looked at each other like, what do we do?

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not seeing anything.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And they were like, and then we just kind of shrugged them like, and then we turned like,

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh,

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Spirituality, we damned our friend, we just got stabbed.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_05]: But you know that pot is right? Like we paused because of tradition because of,

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, it's not just a kind of madness of what you were about to do. Right.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like right. Obviously had become very important.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But no, it's a great example of how a tradition or ritual can cause you to do the wrong thing or cause you to hesitate to do the wrong thing.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Or hesitate to write thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I meant to say.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it was when you said thorns, it reminded me of that story.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's a funny story because everything was okay, right? Everybody did into that. Okay. Everything was a crib.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. That's good to know. I mean the kid was hurt, but like not mortally wounded or anything, right?

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Good. So I didn't lose an eye on him. No, no, no, no. Yeah.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But it makes you like, that one just threw even me a lifelong, lifelong non-believer slash atheists, right?

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I got caught up in ritual. I got caught up in tradition. I got caught up in this thing.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Instead of just immediately jumping to fuck this shit, I need this kid's help. So I'm going to yell. Yeah. We turned to each other first before we started yelling for it.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Should we should we do this? Yeah. You know, that's crazy. That's crazy.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_05]: The immediate answer is fucking help us. Right. You know, tradition be damned ritual.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it should be. Well, I guess I'm kicked out, but I'm okay with that because help. Right. Yeah. Right.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Like I get what you're saying. I really appreciate that you can look back on that and like understand that about yourself.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like look inward and be like holy shit, even I was caught up in that, which means that nobody can.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. And I had the luxury. I had the luxury of not growing up with indoctrination. I wasn't not indoctrinated into religion.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. And many people are, you know, a lot of people are. Yeah. So and I'm going to say it's a luxury because I hear the stories from people.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of times they're very tragic with regard to how their families will disown them or, you know, there's all kinds of just sad scenarios that are that revolve around this whole Christian indoctrination thing that happens in the US.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. Right. Or other religions. I mean, we specifically talk about Christianity because we're reading the Bible all the way through the New Testament, right?

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's what's currently impacting our political but religion in general. It applies and it strikes me that no one is really immune. You just don't understand in the moment what you're being controlled by you have to and but that's why it's good to be a free thinker. That's why it's good to question. Yeah.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Because even you right now, you don't always know what is controlling your thoughts. It could be the newest social media feeds. It could be the TV channel you're watching. It could be all kinds of things. It could be something as stupid as when you and I went to a friend's house.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And we were all drinking. Yeah. And there was a guy who was very clearly too inebriated to drive and everybody was like, he dude, are you okay? And he was like, yeah, I'm fine. And he was trying to leave to drive and everybody was like, are you sure?

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And then once he like insisted, everybody just kind of let it go and I was like, oh, so we're just letting him go. And like suddenly I was the problem and everybody was like, you know, he said he's okay. What can we do? And I'm like, I don't know take his fucking keys. Yeah. Go out, take a picture of his license plate. I don't know block the car door and don't let him in. Like there's any number of things call the cops call him a cab.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know. But like it was like I am very likely autistic sure so it doesn't make sense to me the the social pressure. Yeah, the social pressure to fit in and the that whatever it is, like I don't have that and usually that's problematic because I don't fit in. No, I don't know how this is something I've had to adjust to with being ready to you.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I am very much guarded in my behavior with regard to the norms of society. Yes, you are less much less so but not because I'm like awesome or anything like it's not like it's natural response to a shitty city thing happening. Yeah.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's taught me a lot about myself like being with you has taught me a lot about myself because I am able to judge things differently than I might have 20 years ago. Right.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And and I think vice versa, right?

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to be doing things off of each other and you know we have kind of codes to signal things for each other when we're in situations where we know that the other one lacks the ability to react to that situation properly. Right.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's part of what allows us to have great discussions about societal norms and societal things that are going on because we have two completely different takes on how to handle and react to those situations.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, definitely. And we've learned to get along wonderfully as a couple.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So we have great interactions with regard to it because of that dynamic that we have between us and our takes on those those issues. I think it's a really great example of opposites attract but they only attract if you're both willing to work on yourself and work with the opposing factor.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it's not just opposites attract the end opposites attract and you can make it work but you have to make it work. And it is work definitely.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I'll just never forget like that was one of the earliest examples of you kind of looking at me with the rest of the crowd going like, you know, you need to move it now I agree with you.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know you agreed with me at the time even, but you didn't understand how I could stick out from the crowd that way because in that moment it felt like a friend loser moment. Right.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Like that was the level of disdain that was happening with the urge to use standing up for that moment, right?

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And I wasn't sure that you understood the level of what you were doing at the moment.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and also to be fair these were my friends so you were already somewhat out of place because you were with me at my friend's house.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. And I was your only real connection to be fair here the people that were giving me the drive drunk were not your friends correct.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It was correct. They were at the house of the friend that your friends with yeah, but even the people who's house we were at she was like you know he's a grown-up man he made his choice and I'm like, but you know my thinking was I have an adult child out there on the roads that this person could run into

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like literally that was all I could think was but you guys are setting this bullet loose and he could hit somebody that I love right and you guys are okay with that.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And I couldn't convey that so all I could say is you know you guys are all younger than me one day you'll have kids and you understand and they thought that I gave a shit about the guy right and I was like, oh no he already his life is already no one boy to me.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they were like that's mean like the dude was like oh that's that's real nice of you know it's like we you already don't give a fuck that your drunk right you already decided that everybody else's life on the road is going so so I don't give a fuck if you live or die honestly at this point.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know you you've decided to do something dangerous that puts people in danger that that is.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck you, you know die don't die whatever right but don't go on the road.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and don't take other I hope you hit a brick wall and don't take anybody with you, right, you know sorry not sorry yep so anyway that was me just being manic again.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no you're fine. You're fine. I signal to Rayne and here. So.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's still really excited about having my hand free you are. I'm sorry. Alright so thorns and this all's okay.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh they're going to grow up over those altars. Okay. Yeah and poke people in the right. Yeah when they're working on dams.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they're going to make them break their coat of silence. Right. Then they will say to the mountains cover us into the hills follow us.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Really that's what they're going to they're going to they're talking now, huh? That's what they say to the mountains and the hills. The thorns okay.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was the people I thought it was the people we'll say that.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Thorns and this will grow up and cover the altars and they will say to them, oh no you're right. Yeah, we have talking thorns and this will now.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean if you're going to have thorns and this will then might as well be talkative. Right. Yeah. I guess that's that sounds that would be a great name for a bar thorns and this will.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. When in the context of they can talk to mountains and and everything else you know social you know they're there social thorns and this will.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah actually okay. But what about the brires I really love the brires.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean you could put that one like in parentheses below or something like brires. I don't know.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Or maybe that could be like a drink, you know, brires.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe the bit the the rest room area called the briar patch.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The yeah I like that. Yeah the non gendered bathrooms right right.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is the briar patch. Yeah.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Sounds good. Yeah. Okay. Since the days of Gabea you have sinned Israel and there you ever made fuckers.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah. So don't give it. Okay. Yeah. Well not war again overtake the evil doers and Gabea.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Probably probably. Well, it not possibly. Probably he thinks it will apparently war's going to war if he's got if this is god talking doesn't need no already.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I think but I think it's hose head. Who would know who would know I wouldn't but God. But who's as hypothetically has information from God.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. So God and you're right. He is speaking for God because it says, when I please I will punish them.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she got his asking the question as to whether this is going to happen. Apparently there's no what do you know what do you think what do you think.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So when I please I will punish them nations will be gathered against them to put them in bonds for their double sin.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. From is a trained heifer that loves the stretch.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I just fucking child. It's a golden calf you know whatever but sometimes when I hate somebody I call them a heifer. Oh my gosh.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And whether not not as a like remark on their way. I'd called skinny people have just you know people that I don't like. Yeah, like such a heifer.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But your mom sometimes calls people hags.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You should go. Which I have never heard used before and I fucking love it. Oh, she's such a hag.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And hag is better than have for us. Yeah, and both are better than childless cat woman. Sure. Yeah.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you know familiar with that one? I know that that's a thing in the social media but we don't need to heal or must okay. You're on Musk and no actually was JD events sorry okay.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: JD events said that childless cat women are the ones who are a drain on society and they're trying to make laws.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And even though they have no say because they're just childless cat ladies.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_05]: No more supposed to be shocked that the Republicans said something so stir.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: No, we're not. I was just explaining the reference to you. Right. Now I got it.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Childless cat lady. Yep, which I loved. Yeah, no that's great. Yep.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: E from is a trained heifer that loves to thrash. So I will put a yoke on her fair neck as you do.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. I will drive E from Judah Musk plow and Jacob must break up the ground.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Jacob's face is real.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't really know what to think of that statement there. It sounds like they're saying that I don't know.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I God will drive E from so she's the fucking heifer right? So I'm driving that heifer and I'm saying go heifer.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And Judah is plowing. So just as the one coming behind.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_02]: There's still okay with God sort of and Jacob is breaking up the ground.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_05]: But Jacob is is real.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Is real breaking up the ground. Okay, I don't I'm still that that's we that's a Q and A.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to definitely a Q and A. Yeah, okay.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_05]: That's odd.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't really get that. I like I can see the picture.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know what the picture was to represent.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Jacob would be Israel, which includes the Northern tribes actually if we're going historically here.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's that's a weird juxtaposition of it's weird having E from out there on its own and not part of Judah or Israel.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Was not weird they're part of the Northern tribes.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is Judah right?

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I know which is Israel.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It was Israel until they split and now it's just flipping them.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. Yes, they would have been part of Israel.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying. It's weird that E from is being called out on its own.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: When we've got Israel and Judah right when E from was part of the path.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just I see me from as what's happening. Well, yeah, I get that but yeah, I don't understand the whole dynamic there.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I need a better picture.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. So Q and A. Saturday we'll get on that.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. So righteousness for yourselves reap the fruit of unfailing love and break up your unplowed ground for it is time to seek the Lord until he comes and showers his

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: righteousness on you.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ. He's going to come and he's going to shower.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You should have seen life space just like when he comes and showers his righteousness on you all over the

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: shower it all over you.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But you planted wickedness, you have read evil, you have eaten the fruit of deception.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they were bad.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: They were bad.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: You bad. I hate you because you have dependent on your own strength and on your many warriors, the roar of battle will rise against your people so that all your fortresses will be devastated.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_02]: A shaman devastated Beth or Bell on the day of battle when mothers would dash to the ground with their children.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember that day?

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It sucked.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So will it happen to you, Bethel, your boots because your wickedness is fucking great.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_05]: They just I can't get over how much they just like revel in this like murdering murder.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I love to murder women and the babies.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Crazy.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: When that day dawns, the king of Israel will be completely destroyed the end.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck everything.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The end.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just not a lot of like positive feel good anything in this goddamn Bible.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to be a book of love, but it's just not.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know what?

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And people will be like, well, that's the new testimony.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_05]: But like you tell us, you know, hey, we're talking about the Bible.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_05]: It's in the Bible.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We're reading the Bible and it's taking us a long fucking time to get to the good.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's the thing like so when you're seeing the good book, you're referring to the new testimony.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Does that mean we're reading the bad book?

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what it feels like.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_05]: It definitely does.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I think they should we should.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_05]: They should definitely rename the bad book.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: The Old Testament is the bad of the girl.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking bad.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing, even in the good book, I heard that this one do get murdered.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_05]: He does.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And from what I hear.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, spoiled.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We're not there yet.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the board on the street is.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that was Jose, chapter 10.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Jose, chapter 10.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And we will be back later today with our Q&A, not on Saturday.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I will get the weekly wrap up out today too.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_05]: So there's going to be a fucking ton of episodes out today.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we are going to reset and be back on Monday.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: With Jose, chapter 11.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, all right.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see you then.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Bye.