Hosea Chapter 12: Bible Study by Atheists

Hosea Chapter 12: Bible Study by Atheists

Hey there, fellow skeptics and Bible enthusiasts! In this latest episode of Sacrilegious Discourse, Husband and Wife dive into Hosea Chapter 12, or as they lovingly call it, "Hose Head." This chapter is a whirlwind of metaphors, divine threats, and historical references that left us scratching our heads.

In this episode, we break down:

1. Divine Nostalgia: We recap Hosea Chapter 11, where God reminisces about leading Israel out of Egypt, despite the plagues and punishments. We compare this to an abusive spouse claiming, "I didn't want to hit her; she had it coming."

2. MGM Studios Trivia: A brief detour into the history of MGM Studios' iconic lion, Leo, and its acquisition by Amazon Prime. Because why not?

3. Eating the Wind: Hosea Chapter 12 kicks off with Ephraim "feeding on the wind" and making shady deals with Assyria and Egypt. We discuss the metaphor and its implications for relying on nothing substantial.

4. Divine Punishments: The Lord charges Judah and Jacob (Israel) with various misdeeds, promising punishment. We delve into the confusing references to Jacob and his struggles with God and angels.

5. Wealth and Sin: Ephraim boasts about its wealth, claiming it absolves them of sin. We draw parallels to modern-day figures who believe money can buy their way out of consequences.

6. Prophets and Parables: God’s use of prophets and parables to communicate with Israel. We question the effectiveness of this divine strategy and suggest a more straightforward approach.

As always, we inject our signature blend of humor and skepticism, questioning the logic and morality of these ancient texts. Whether you're here for the theological critique or just some laughs, this episode has something for everyone.


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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse.

[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: For this is what the Sovereign Lord says!

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want?

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_02]: If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done,

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_02]: then you can justify any of your behavior.

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of this mentality is trickling into

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: what is now mainstream right wing Christianity.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible.

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a Bible that they tell kids this is the good Lord,

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_00]: this is the good book, this is...

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: He is fantasizing about murder, mass murder.

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[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Wife!

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what chapter we're on?

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we just got done reading Hosea Chapter 11.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure as fuck did.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Which means that today we're getting into...

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Hosea Chapter 12 or as I like to call him,

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Hosehead.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and in the last chapter, Hosea Chapter 11,

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: we read about God...

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to tell us how wonderful he was

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and that he wasn't going to leave them in Egypt

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and he brought them out.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He was such a great stand up guy.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So magnanimous.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And he really hates to have to be forced to kill them

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and do horrible things to them so please don't make him do that

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but if he does have to do it, he's going to do it anyway.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like an abusive spouse who says

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to hit her, she had it coming.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: She deserved what she got.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah that was Hosea Chapter 11.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He also referred to himself as a lion or something.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, we talked about that.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just wanted to mention that I did look it up really quickly

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: so if you're curious...

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we were talking about MGM Studios.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was getting there.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So I did look it up briefly and if you're interested in it

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you should like look it up way more.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, MGM is still around

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and MGM Studios had the first lion that they used,

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the first live lion that they used was named Leo

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and they used several lions after that for the war.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And every time they used a different lion

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: they always called him Leo

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: even though the first one was the only actual Leo.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Now back in like, I think it was like 2011 or some shit like that

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Amazon bought it, Amazon Prime bought MGM.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So when they put movies out in theater

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: it's marketed through MGM.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: When it's on Prime it goes through,

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: or when it's streaming it goes through Prime.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So the two are inextricably linked.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And the lion is still around?

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It is an animated lion now that still uses the roar.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I see, I see.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's an animated Leo.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And that kind of makes me sad, honestly.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, I'm an A24 girl so...

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Which just for those who don't know

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: A24 is a movie studio that produces movies.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It produces very well made.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It was an independent, like artistically geared

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: like independent theater kind of thing.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's become much more mainstream.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, we just got done reading chapter 11.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And today we're getting into...

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Hosea chapter 12.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's do this.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Okie dokie.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, we're hopping into Hosea chapter 12.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Hosea, how you doin' Hosea?

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Even feeds on the wind.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, ok.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wish I could feed on the wind.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I love eating wind.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It would be a lot cheaper.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I imagine it tastes like cotton candy

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: just because it's cotton sugar.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Or like blue Gatorade.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know, there's just something...

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I ate that wind.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He pursues the east wind all day

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and multiplies lies and violence.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That motherfucker.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And so what he means by that

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: is like eating the wind is like

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: just eating nothing.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Got it.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're depending on nothing,

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you're saying nothing.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Got it.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not really something that's there

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: or it's not something you can rely on.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all just dust in the wind, man.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all just dust in the wind.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He makes a treaty with Assyria

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and sends fucking olive oil to Egypt.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Man.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's just a little backstab

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in son of a bitch.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, he's working all the sides.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I mean, you know, if you're in the middle

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of two giant fucking nations, wouldn't you?

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Try to placate both?

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, I don't want to be attacked

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: by either of those fuckers.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No kidding, right?

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the same.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: The Lord has charged to bring against Judah.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He will punish Jacob according to his ways

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and repay him according to his deeds.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's not going to be nice anymore.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: We're punishing them now.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's the thing.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's talking about Judah,

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but then he talks about Jacob.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Jacob is Israel.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Not Judah.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's very confusing what he's...

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: This whole bit is very confusing.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's about to talk about Jacob,

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the person, not the nation.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay?

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have this...

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm telling you that he's about to.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to have to pay

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: really close attention

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and we may have to revisit this even, okay?

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So the Lord has a charge to bring against Judah.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I just said that

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: because now I'm going to talk about Jacob.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He will punish Jacob according to his ways

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and repay him according to his deeds.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: In the womb, he grasped his brother's heel

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: as a man he struggled with God.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He struggled...

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like remember, he's always fighting

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: against God and whatever?

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He struggled with the angel

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and overcame him.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like remember, he was the one

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that wrestled with the angel of the Lord

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I got to wonder here

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because Jacob is kind of used

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: as the description of what Israel is, right?

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the name of Israel, essentially.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if because Ephraim

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and all the northern tribes

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and all that has gone away,

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: if Judah is Jacob now in lore

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: as opposed to the whole group...

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But this is pre all of that.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the tribes have separated though already.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's still the northern...

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The northern tribes have already broken away.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They're worshiping the golden calf.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, but they haven't been completely

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: swallowed up yet.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but the good tribe, Judah,

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: is maybe being used as the comparison

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: to Jacob here, possibly.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Just in my estimation,

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe that's what's going on.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know for sure,

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: but that's how it feels.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any clues,

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: so that makes as much sense

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: as anything else.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, he struggled with the angel

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and overcame him, Jacob did.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He wept and begged for his favor.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He found him at Bethel

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and talked with him there.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: The Lord God Almighty,

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: the Lord is His name.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember, the Lord is His name.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But you must return to your God,

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: maintain love and justice

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and wait for your God always.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Do that.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:07:24] Okay.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: The merchant uses dishonest scales,

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: dishonest scales and loves to defraud.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's always trying to

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: cheat the customer.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess, sure.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: E from both,

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very rich.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I have become wealthy.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: With all my wealth,

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: they will not find in me

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: any iniquity or sin.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, okay.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, hold on.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, so they're saying

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: they can buy away their sin?

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can, I'm Trump.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I can buy anything.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll never serve a day in jail

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: for all the shit I've done.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I admit that I've done it,

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: but can't catch me.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the gingerbread man.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I have money.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not saying

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that it's the money that saves me.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying I'm so rich

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that my sins are not considered sins.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, that's not how that works, bro.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but also it could be just,

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and I don't know what the dynamic is here,

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: but like E from and the Northern tribes

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: could have been richer than Judah

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: because they were trading with the other groups

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were doing things

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that they didn't find ethically correct, right?

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So therefore they're disparaging them

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: for the wealth that they are bringing in

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: because of those situations.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like blood money or whatever.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It could just be jealousy.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't want to like

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: speak for what's going on,

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: but it feels like there's a disparity

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: between who is getting what from whom.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I have been the Lord your God

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: ever since you came out of Egypt.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Ever since you came out of Egypt.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But not before.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a day before.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I will make you live in tents again, mother fuckers.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not tents.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: As in the days of your appointed festivals.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you even?

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, like the,

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: what was that one called?

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The shelter, like the...

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Festival of shelters.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Festival of shelters or something like that.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I spoke to the prophets,

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: gave them many visions

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and told parables through them.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what, God might have done you better

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: if you just spoke straight.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to everybody.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You just don't have to do parables.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You can actually just fucking explain yourself simply

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: to everybody across the board.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You also don't have to, yeah,

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't have to use prophets.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That's really dumb.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you seem so limited, God.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Gilead wicked?

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Its people are worthless exclamation point.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, I guess they are.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Do they sacrifice bulls in Gilgul?

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Do they?

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Do they?

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Do they?

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Their altars will be like piles of stones

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: on a plowed field.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess they do.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess probably.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Jacob fled into the country of Aram.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Israel served to get a wife and to pay for her

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: to pay for her he tended sheep.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: The Lord used the prophet to bring Israel up

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: from Egypt by a prophet he cared for him.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about Moses, right?

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the one who brought him up from Egypt,

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing I can think of.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm kind of confused here.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I am a little confused myself.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But Ephraim has aroused his bitter anger.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: His Lord will leave on him the guilt of his bloodshed

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and will repay him for his contempt.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The end.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So God hate you, he gon' get ya at the end.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Got it.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like this chapter is going to require

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit more work on our Q&A because

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't understand fully all the dynamics

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: of what was going on here.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Same.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of references

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that are older references so I'm not quite getting them.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, A, I don't really understand that

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and B, I don't fucking remember all that.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, we've been reading this thing for like four years.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I cannot remember everything.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the whole Jacob bit was probably

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: like two and a half, three years ago

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: at this point.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, get the fuck over yourself Bible.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing the best I can, okay?

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We are.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We are.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And let's see, today is Tuesday.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Just one of the reiterate that tomorrow

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: we will be doing our live Discord,

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: which we talked about this last week

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but we are in the midst of changing

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: our schedule a little bit.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing four biblical chapters

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: every week.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing one special episode

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and every other week it'll be for everybody

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and the other week will be Patreon only

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but it'll always be available on our Discord

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: for anybody who joins our Discord

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and joins us on the lives at 10 p.m. Eastern

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: on Wednesdays.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted to say that now

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: so that if you haven't joined us over there,

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: go do that or join us on Patreon

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and help us out that way too.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You can join there and get those episodes

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: for as little as $2 a month just so you're aware.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And anything else to add before we get out of here today?

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So this will be a Patreon episode this week

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: then it will be a Patreon episode this week, yes.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And I highly recommend hitting either

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the live on Wednesday

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: or becoming a Patreon member

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: because this one's going to be really good.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: trans people versus intersex people

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and just the whole discussion around

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: what constitutes

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: an easy introduction to that conversation

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: given that part of that is social,

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: part of it is personal and part of it

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: is science and hormones and chromosomes and stuff.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to get too deep into it

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: because I don't know the science

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but I think it's going to be really interesting

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: because I've had some kind of cool conversations

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: that I just wanted to bring to the table.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to that discussion

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and we hope to see you either on the live

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: or on Patreon for that.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was Hosea Chapter 12.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure as fuck was.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Which means that we will be back tomorrow with...

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Hosea Chapter 13!

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you then.

[00:13:16] Bye!