Hosea Chapter 2: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:01:19] So do you know where we are today?

[00:01:21] Well, we just started a new book of the Bible yesterday with Hosea chapter one.

[00:01:28] And in that chapter, we've got a new possibly real in history type deal, maybe.

[00:01:35] Dude!

[00:01:36] A prophet named Hosea.

[00:01:37] A minor prophet?

[00:01:38] Minor prophet, sure.

[00:01:40] And Hosea was commanded by God to marry a prostitute.

[00:01:45] A propiscuous woman.

[00:01:46] By God, I should say.

[00:01:48] Yeah.

[00:01:49] Because of course, God is going to use this minor prophet as an example of Israel's wrongdoing, maybe?

[00:01:59] Symbolism.

[00:02:00] Symbolism.

[00:02:00] So he's going to make his minor prophet get married to a prostitute who is then going to faithfully give him children who also get shitty names because of God.

[00:02:13] Right.

[00:02:16] To symbolize Israelite shittiness.

[00:02:19] Yes.

[00:02:20] Is that the gist of it?

[00:02:21] So they named their kids, you suck, fuck off and kiss my ass.

[00:02:26] I mean essentially, yeah.

[00:02:27] Yeah.

[00:02:28] I just, um, this is really weird.

[00:02:30] Yeah.

[00:02:31] I feel like maybe Hosea didn't like his wife and he wrote about it.

[00:02:34] Oh my God, probably.

[00:02:36] So that's my theory, at least my working theory.

[00:02:40] Yeah, I think you got something there.

[00:02:42] Yeah, right.

[00:02:43] So anyway, that was Hosea chapter one.

[00:02:46] Yes it was.

[00:02:47] Which means that today we're getting into...

[00:02:49] Hosea chapter two.

[00:02:51] All right, let's do this.

[00:02:52] Okie dokie.

[00:02:59] All right, so we are getting into Hosea chapter two.

[00:03:04] Hosea chapter two.

[00:03:05] Correct.

[00:03:05] Yeah.

[00:03:06] And first I need to start with an apology-ish.

[00:03:11] Do ya?

[00:03:11] Yeah.

[00:03:12] Um, so remember at the end of the last chapter when I was reading my notes and we were like,

[00:03:20] I didn't get that out of that.

[00:03:22] The fuck are they talking about?

[00:03:23] Kind of, yeah.

[00:03:25] It was the whole, um, God's gonna make them be his people again and bring them all together.

[00:03:30] Right.

[00:03:30] And we were like, he didn't say all that.

[00:03:32] Sure.

[00:03:33] Ok, so here's the thing.

[00:03:35] Those notes included the first verse of chapter two.

[00:03:41] Oh.

[00:03:42] Because it, the whole thing carries over.

[00:03:45] I see.

[00:03:46] And I didn't realize that until I was starting my notes for chapter two and they started at

[00:03:52] verse two and I was like, right but where's verse one?

[00:03:54] Right.

[00:03:55] Well in the notes it's back in the last chapter.

[00:03:59] That's, they break the, what, I have, ok.

[00:04:02] I don't understand why don't they just fix the breaks, right?

[00:04:05] Just fix the breaks.

[00:04:05] This isn't a scroll.

[00:04:07] We don't have to do that anymore.

[00:04:09] It doesn't, it makes no sense.

[00:04:10] No, it just doesn't.

[00:04:11] Yeah.

[00:04:12] It's so fucking stupid.

[00:04:13] So anyway, I apologize.

[00:04:15] Maybe it does say that.

[00:04:17] I'm gonna assume it does but we'll find out here in a minute.

[00:04:20] Yeah.

[00:04:21] Um, but not having read the Bible before and forgetting that sometimes it lies.

[00:04:26] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:27] Um, I fucked up.

[00:04:28] Ok.

[00:04:29] Maybe.

[00:04:30] Maybe.

[00:04:31] Well no, I did fuck up yesterday because I was like, it didn't say that.

[00:04:35] But we don't.

[00:04:36] But in the chapter we read, it didn't.

[00:04:38] Right.

[00:04:39] It didn't say that.

[00:04:39] So you want me to say it?

[00:04:40] Got it.

[00:04:40] It did not say that.

[00:04:41] But it might still not say it.

[00:04:43] Right, but I can't apologize for that yet.

[00:04:45] Okay.

[00:04:46] I'm not there yet.

[00:04:46] Alright.

[00:04:47] Got it.

[00:04:47] I'm apologizing for yesterday.

[00:04:50] I said the note say this happens in this chapter.

[00:04:53] Right.

[00:04:54] And I didn't get that out of this chapter and what the fuck.

[00:04:57] Okay.

[00:04:58] Sure.

[00:04:58] Are we on the same page now?

[00:05:00] I think so.

[00:05:00] Alright, so let's start with Hosea chapter two.

[00:05:05] Got it.

[00:05:05] Okay.

[00:05:05] Yeah.

[00:05:06] Say of your brothers, my people and of your sisters, my loved one.

[00:05:13] I put my brothers, my people and of your sisters.

[00:05:17] I mean.

[00:05:17] My loved one.

[00:05:19] Sure.

[00:05:19] Okay, wait.

[00:05:20] Let me try that one more time because the quotes are misplaced and weird.

[00:05:24] Say of your brothers, my people and of your sisters, my loved one.

[00:05:31] Okay.

[00:05:32] Okay, does that.

[00:05:32] That sounds a little better.

[00:05:34] Yeah.

[00:05:34] Okay.

[00:05:35] Rebuke your mother, rebuke her for she is not my wife and I am not her husband.

[00:05:41] Okay, Hosea is yelling at his kids to yell at mom.

[00:05:45] What the fuck?

[00:05:45] Right?

[00:05:46] Is that, am I getting this correct?

[00:05:47] Sounds that way but he married her.

[00:05:50] I know.

[00:05:51] Let her remove the adulterous look from her face.

[00:05:54] Adulterous look.

[00:05:56] You got that adulterous, you look adulterous-y.

[00:06:00] She doesn't have that loving feeling.

[00:06:01] She's got an adulterous look.

[00:06:03] She's got lion eyes.

[00:06:04] I guess, yeah.

[00:06:05] You can't hide those lion eyes.

[00:06:06] Lion eyes.

[00:06:07] She's got honey-lip.

[00:06:08] I wish she's honey-lipped.

[00:06:09] She's got honey-lip.

[00:06:10] I think she's honey-lipsed.

[00:06:10] She's a honey-lip vixen and he's singing what you gonna do with those shoes.

[00:06:17] Yeah.

[00:06:17] Okay, so next time somebody pisses me off, I'm going to be like, you got that adulterous

[00:06:23] look about you.

[00:06:26] Okay, so remove the adulterous look from her face, you know, kiddos.

[00:06:31] Yeah.

[00:06:31] And the unfaithfulness from between her breasts.

[00:06:34] What?

[00:06:35] Get right up there in her boobies.

[00:06:36] The fuck her unfaithfulness between her breasts.

[00:06:39] That's where her heart is.

[00:06:40] He's saying her heart.

[00:06:41] Oh, okay.

[00:06:41] He couldn't just say heart.

[00:06:42] He had to say boobies.

[00:06:43] Okay.

[00:06:44] He's three like me.

[00:06:45] Boobies.

[00:06:46] Got it.

[00:06:46] Boobies.

[00:06:47] Yeah.

[00:06:47] Otherwise, I'll strip her naked and make her as bare as on the day she was born.

[00:06:52] Jesus.

[00:06:53] That's healthy.

[00:06:53] What the fuck?

[00:06:55] Right?

[00:06:55] I will make her like a desert, turn her into a parched land and slayer with thirst.

[00:07:02] Are you talking about like beating her and like raping her?

[00:07:05] I mean, look, I know this is like a, this is symbolism for what, what, this is not okay.

[00:07:12] No.

[00:07:13] Right?

[00:07:14] Like, I mean, come on guys.

[00:07:16] This is, this is a woman we're talking about and she's married to you and you're saying

[00:07:22] that she is a prostitute because she has unfaithful eyes?

[00:07:30] I'm, I'm, I'm a, no.

[00:07:33] Right?

[00:07:33] No.

[00:07:34] This isn't okay.

[00:07:36] No.

[00:07:36] Like you need to stop talking about women like this in the Bible because it's bullshit.

[00:07:41] Let me read you the next line.

[00:07:42] You're going to love this one.

[00:07:43] Oh fuck.

[00:07:44] I will not show my love to her children because they are the children of adultery.

[00:07:50] What the fuck?

[00:07:51] Now I ain't even the daddy.

[00:07:53] What the fuck?

[00:07:55] But you know you are though, bro.

[00:07:57] Right?

[00:07:57] Unless what, after those three that warriors, what did she go out and fuck 100 boys on the football team and got pregnant by, you know, 12 of them and had 12 babies back to back?

[00:08:07] Like, is that what you're trying to say?

[00:08:09] I mean, he was claiming the kid, I don't know.

[00:08:12] I don't, I don't, I don't agree with this is not okay.

[00:08:15] This is not okay.

[00:08:16] Yeah.

[00:08:16] Like, look, it's one thing to have symbolism to describe something.

[00:08:22] Right?

[00:08:22] I understand that.

[00:08:24] That makes sense.

[00:08:26] This is a terrible symbol to use for symbolism.

[00:08:32] You're, you're, you're.

[00:08:33] And moreover, so let me just make sure I understand this here.

[00:08:37] So in this analogy, Hosea's treatment of his adulterous wife is like God's treatment of the Israelites.

[00:08:50] The Israelites.

[00:08:51] So you God are saying this to your people because that's gross.

[00:08:55] Well, but we know that he says this to his people.

[00:08:57] I know.

[00:08:57] Like that's not unexpected necessarily.

[00:09:00] We've already commented throughout the entire Bible how shitty God has been to his people.

[00:09:05] Right?

[00:09:06] Yeah.

[00:09:06] That part we get, but to take it and, and boil it down to the relationship between a husband

[00:09:12] and his wife where the husband is in this power structure over power dynamic over the

[00:09:18] wife and is, is treating like, okay, this is misogyny at its like biggest largest form

[00:09:26] where this man is just deciding that his wife looks like a prostitute apparently.

[00:09:32] And deciding that she has been unfaithful in her heart, right?

[00:09:36] Because he is in charge because he knows best because he is the husband.

[00:09:40] And God told him so.

[00:09:41] Sure.

[00:09:42] But you know what?

[00:09:43] Fuck you.

[00:09:44] Yeah.

[00:09:44] That's fucking bullshit.

[00:09:45] And this is, this is why partly, culturally, why men feel like it's okay to be horrible

[00:09:54] to women.

[00:09:55] Right.

[00:09:55] And, and it's not okay.

[00:09:58] This is not okay guys.

[00:09:58] This is not okay.

[00:09:59] Don't do this.

[00:10:00] Right.

[00:10:00] So, okay.

[00:10:01] Let me continue.

[00:10:02] I will not show my love to her children because they are the children of adultery.

[00:10:07] Their mother has been unfaithful and has conceived them in disgrace.

[00:10:13] She said, I'll go after my lovers who give me food and my water, my wool and my linen,

[00:10:19] my olive oil and my drink.

[00:10:22] Is that what, is that, I missed that bit in the last chapter because it sounded like

[00:10:26] they were his kids with in the last chapter.

[00:10:28] That's what I'm saying.

[00:10:28] Those three were his kids.

[00:10:30] So, did she have more?

[00:10:32] Right.

[00:10:32] I don't, I don't get it.

[00:10:33] Yeah.

[00:10:33] That's what I'm saying.

[00:10:34] What exactly are we like, we need, this needs to be clarified because of the strength

[00:10:39] of punishment that's going to incur, is going to happen because of this.

[00:10:43] Yeah.

[00:10:44] Right.

[00:10:44] And also, so what?

[00:10:46] She just woke up one day and decided to cheat on you for the fuck of it and

[00:10:49] set it straight to your face, huh?

[00:10:51] Right.

[00:10:51] Or were you an asshole?

[00:10:53] I'm betting he was an asshole.

[00:10:54] I know he was an asshole because of his fucking public reaction.

[00:10:57] Right.

[00:10:58] He wrote this shit down and was like, they're going to hate you for ages.

[00:11:02] Right.

[00:11:03] Bitch.

[00:11:04] Yeah.

[00:11:05] Yeah.

[00:11:05] So yeah, I know he was an asshole.

[00:11:07] Right.

[00:11:07] Okay, Jose, I don't like you.

[00:11:09] I don't either.

[00:11:10] Yeah.

[00:11:11] Therefore, I will block her path with thorn bushes.

[00:11:15] I will wall her in so that she cannot find her way.

[00:11:18] Okay, hold on.

[00:11:19] I'm sorry.

[00:11:20] That is abuse.

[00:11:23] Yeah.

[00:11:23] And you cannot hold people hostage.

[00:11:25] Yeah, if she's cheating on you or whatever, just let her go.

[00:11:29] You're psycho.

[00:11:30] Yeah, just fucking let her go.

[00:11:32] And pathetic because you're saying, baby, don't leave me and you're chasing her down the

[00:11:37] street while she's driving away in her car.

[00:11:40] Right.

[00:11:40] You're pathetic.

[00:11:41] But it is perfect symbolism though for God.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:44] God does not let his people go.

[00:11:45] He kills them.

[00:11:46] Yeah, exactly.

[00:11:47] He tortures them.

[00:11:48] He makes them eat their children apparently.

[00:11:51] He does all kinds of really crappy things to them.

[00:11:54] This is horrible.

[00:11:54] That this is, it is an apt description as to how God treats his people.

[00:12:01] It's like, yes, you're right.

[00:12:02] Your God is that shit.

[00:12:04] The man, like I will give it this.

[00:12:07] The description of the man, Hosea in this symbolic message of how God sees his relationship

[00:12:14] with the Israelites is very spot on.

[00:12:17] Yeah.

[00:12:17] Right?

[00:12:18] That's not a good thing though.

[00:12:19] No, it's not a good thing.

[00:12:20] Right.

[00:12:20] And moreover, much like our position with regard to how God treats the Israelites, we don't

[00:12:27] agree with how he does that.

[00:12:28] Right.

[00:12:29] We don't agree with how Hosea is treating his wife.

[00:12:32] Exactly.

[00:12:32] Right?

[00:12:32] So neither one of these work in any sense in the modern age.

[00:12:38] Right.

[00:12:39] And we're trying and people, people who are religious are trying to pretend like

[00:12:43] these things are okay.

[00:12:44] Yeah.

[00:12:44] And I've actually heard people close to us and I'm going to out, it's your parents say

[00:12:52] that men are the people that are in charge of the women.

[00:12:55] Yeah.

[00:12:55] And it's not just your parents.

[00:12:57] I've heard other people say the same thing.

[00:12:59] But it's yucky that it's...

[00:13:00] And that's today in 2024.

[00:13:02] Yeah.

[00:13:02] Like what?

[00:13:03] It's yucky that it's my parents because it's people that we love and spend time

[00:13:08] with.

[00:13:09] Right.

[00:13:09] And they're like, no, but the man's in charge.

[00:13:11] Yeah.

[00:13:11] And I'm like...

[00:13:12] And they have very soft reasons for it.

[00:13:15] Yeah.

[00:13:15] Right?

[00:13:15] They say it nicely.

[00:13:18] Well, and then they're like, but I mean the woman has to, you know, the man has to take

[00:13:23] care of her.

[00:13:24] Right.

[00:13:25] And I'm like, oh, because that part doesn't always get said, you know.

[00:13:28] It's like in the modern age people want to say these things.

[00:13:32] Right.

[00:13:32] But they don't actually mean it generally.

[00:13:35] But also it allows for people to be shitty if they want to be shitty.

[00:13:39] Right.

[00:13:39] Exactly.

[00:13:39] So that's the problem really inherent now.

[00:13:42] I'm like, what if and hear me out.

[00:13:45] Yeah.

[00:13:46] Nobody's in charge of each other.

[00:13:48] Right.

[00:13:49] And you guys make decisions not based on gender norms.

[00:13:54] And if the man works and the woman stays home to whatever she's doing at home taking

[00:14:00] care of the kids, cooking, cleaning, doing house, maybe she's got mental health issues.

[00:14:05] That's fine.

[00:14:06] Right.

[00:14:06] Because they mutually decided that.

[00:14:08] Sure.

[00:14:08] Or conversely, what if she's the breadwinner and he stays home for any of the same reasons.

[00:14:16] That's fine.

[00:14:16] What if they both work?

[00:14:18] What if neither of them work because they got an inheritance?

[00:14:22] Sure.

[00:14:22] What if it's none of our goddamn business and nobody's in charge, they just live

[00:14:27] their fucking lives and don't be rude at each other?

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:31] What if and also what if also it's not just men and women.

[00:14:36] What if it's men and men or women and women?

[00:14:41] Right.

[00:14:41] What if?

[00:14:42] What if?

[00:14:43] Imagine that world.

[00:14:44] That'd be great, wouldn't it?

[00:14:45] Where people didn't worry about other people too much?

[00:14:47] Kind of like walls as thing, mind your business.

[00:14:50] Right.

[00:14:51] Like apparently we need to move to Minnesota because that's their state

[00:14:54] motto or something.

[00:14:56] Anyways.

[00:14:58] All right.

[00:14:58] So this continues.

[00:15:00] I'm going to block her fucking path.

[00:15:01] I'm going to wall her in because I'm a psycho.

[00:15:04] Right.

[00:15:04] And I read too many Edgar Allan Poe and the casque of Montellado where he walled

[00:15:11] up a woman.

[00:15:12] Okay.

[00:15:13] She will chase after her lovers but not catch them.

[00:15:17] She will look for them but not find them.

[00:15:20] So she wanted them.

[00:15:22] But she can't find them or catch them.

[00:15:25] Because they disappeared when she needed them because she's like...

[00:15:29] And we're supposed to just trust that that's the truth.

[00:15:32] Well in the analogy it's that Israel and whatever the Israelites, they went to the other gods

[00:15:41] and other peoples and were like, help, help.

[00:15:44] Right.

[00:15:45] And they all turned away from them.

[00:15:46] I guess.

[00:15:47] They wouldn't defend them.

[00:15:48] And so the woman's like, my husband passed off at me and I need a place to go.

[00:15:54] And they're like no way bitch.

[00:15:55] She says that God that let Babylon conquer his people.

[00:15:58] Right.

[00:15:58] I just, you know, it doesn't make any... that also doesn't make sense but okay.

[00:16:03] Right.

[00:16:03] Exactly.

[00:16:04] Then she will say, I'll go back to my husband as at first for then I was better off than

[00:16:10] now.

[00:16:11] Yeah, that's what she'll do.

[00:16:13] I mean...

[00:16:14] Because she was basically getting beaten.

[00:16:16] Because she's homeless.

[00:16:18] Right.

[00:16:18] Her choices are homeless, prostitute or getting beat at home by my shitty husband.

[00:16:26] Got it.

[00:16:26] Yeah.

[00:16:27] Great choices.

[00:16:29] She has not acknowledged that I was the one who gave her the grain.

[00:16:33] Okay, here we go.

[00:16:35] Here we go.

[00:16:36] All right.

[00:16:37] He invested in her and he's the one that made all the money.

[00:16:42] She did nothing good.

[00:16:44] She doesn't deserve.

[00:16:45] He's the one that put her through, you know, medical school or whatever so she could

[00:16:50] be a nurse.

[00:16:51] So he deserves everything.

[00:16:53] He is the one that put her through law school so she could be... he's the one to pay for her

[00:16:57] college.

[00:16:58] Right, right.

[00:16:59] My ex pulled that on me is where I got all that.

[00:17:03] Sure, sure.

[00:17:03] I'm the one and I'm like but you didn't though.

[00:17:06] Because actually literally he didn't.

[00:17:09] Right.

[00:17:09] My GI bill paid for it.

[00:17:11] Yeah.

[00:17:11] So thank you and fuck you.

[00:17:13] Right.

[00:17:13] All right anyway so he's like I'm the one that paid for everything.

[00:17:17] I'm the one who gave her the grain.

[00:17:19] The new wine and oil and lavished on her the silver and gold which they used for Baal.

[00:17:27] Not Baal.

[00:17:28] No, I'm in charge of who she praised to.

[00:17:31] Didn't you know?

[00:17:32] Yeah, because he gave her things right?

[00:17:33] This statue not that statue.

[00:17:36] Whatever.

[00:17:37] Therefore I will take away my grain when it ripens and my new wine when it is ready.

[00:17:42] So he's going to starver.

[00:17:44] Yeah, it's really funny because I've actually been watching a lot of videos about healing

[00:17:49] from narcissistic abuse because you know my ex and you know our kid is still involved

[00:17:55] with her their father and blah blah blah.

[00:17:57] So anyways it's really funny because one of those things is cutting off the victim from

[00:18:06] family and friends and making them dependent on you financially.

[00:18:09] Right.

[00:18:09] So that wasn't like one of the things that happened to me but that is a narcissistic

[00:18:15] trait.

[00:18:15] Sure.

[00:18:16] So very interesting.

[00:18:17] He's going to like take away any money, any goods and lock her in her house.

[00:18:24] Yeah.

[00:18:25] Okay so he's a narcissist what I'm getting at much like God.

[00:18:28] Right.

[00:18:29] Okay so I'm going to take away my grain and my new wine and not give her nothing.

[00:18:33] Then I will take back my wool and my linen and tended to cover her naked body.

[00:18:40] Okay.

[00:18:41] I'm going to lock her up naked in that room.

[00:18:43] Okay.

[00:18:43] So now I will expose her lewdness before the eyes of her lovers.

[00:18:52] She just got done saying that she couldn't chase them down, she couldn't find them

[00:18:56] and moreover they what this is crazy.

[00:19:01] No one will take her out of my hands.

[00:19:03] I feel like what he's going to do is like tie her to the table, spread eagles and invite

[00:19:10] all of her boyfriends over and be like is that pussy what you wanted?

[00:19:14] You can't have it.

[00:19:16] I feel like that's what he's saying.

[00:19:17] Feels a little like that.

[00:19:19] Right.

[00:19:19] Yeah.

[00:19:19] Okay so then he says I will stop all her celebrations no birthday party for you Missy.

[00:19:26] Right.

[00:19:26] I will stop them all her yearly festivals, her new moons, her Sabbath days, all her appointed

[00:19:33] festivals.

[00:19:34] You know all the shit that used to go with Ashiara polls that now we call Judaism but

[00:19:41] then it gets turned into Christianity.

[00:19:44] You know how we steal holidays and so that's why they're her holidays?

[00:19:48] Sure.

[00:19:48] Because she gets the Ashiara poll ones that aren't Ashiara anymore.

[00:19:52] Yeah.

[00:19:52] I'm going to take all those away.

[00:19:54] Got it.

[00:19:54] Okay.

[00:19:54] I think that they were trying to say that he's going to stop her from worshiping these other

[00:19:59] idols on their holidays and their celebrations is what he's saying.

[00:20:03] Well that's funny because they still do celebrate all those new moons.

[00:20:06] Right but not all of them.

[00:20:07] No I know.

[00:20:08] I'm just saying that I don't think these referring to the ones that got it that were either

[00:20:11] at the time or later maybe ones that were later but like at the time I'm sure

[00:20:16] this was not written about ones that were already adopted by Judaism from pagan beliefs.

[00:20:21] All I can hear from you is blah blah blah blah blah but you're probably right.

[00:20:25] Right.

[00:20:27] I will ruin her vines and her fig trees.

[00:20:30] Oh that's like when you're standing there and you're so mad that you walk in her room

[00:20:34] and you open her drawer and take out all her clothes and you rip them up.

[00:20:38] Yeah.

[00:20:39] Or you pick up all of her jewelry and you throw it against the wall and break it.

[00:20:43] Right.

[00:20:44] That'll learn her.

[00:20:45] Yeah.

[00:20:45] I will ruin, oh I just read that blah blah blah.

[00:20:48] She got, she said she would hold on.

[00:20:51] What she said were her pay from her lovers so she was a prostitute.

[00:20:56] So he's gonna tear up her vines and fig trees that she was paid with.

[00:21:01] Oh okay.

[00:21:03] I missed the bit where she was actually prostituting.

[00:21:05] No me too.

[00:21:06] This is the first time I've said that she was getting paid from her lovers.

[00:21:10] Okay.

[00:21:11] So I guess we have to take his account because we don't have anybody else's account

[00:21:16] here but I don't really accept it.

[00:21:19] Right.

[00:21:19] This just, this feels like they're trying way too hard to make a woman represent shittiness.

[00:21:26] Yeah and I'm sorry I'm a woman so maybe I'm biased but I'm not having it.

[00:21:31] No I really, I really don't like this book thus far.

[00:21:35] It's pretty bad.

[00:21:36] I'll make from them you know the vines and fig tree.

[00:21:39] I'll make them, I will make them a thicket and wild animals will devour them.

[00:21:46] Yeah okay.

[00:21:47] That'll show her.

[00:21:48] I will punish her for the day she burned incense to the ball holes.

[00:21:53] Okay.

[00:21:54] She decked herself with rings and jewelry and went after her lovers but me, she forgot,

[00:22:00] declares the Lord.

[00:22:02] Declars the Lord.

[00:22:03] Oh.

[00:22:04] Whoa okay.

[00:22:04] Like what?

[00:22:05] We went from like talking about the woman directly to ending it with the symbolism of

[00:22:12] Israel with the Lord.

[00:22:12] Like I thought this was dude talking.

[00:22:15] Right, like that's what it seemed like the whole time.

[00:22:17] Yeah it was dude talking and then all of a sudden just kidding it's the Lord.

[00:22:21] Right because we're supposed to view it right but that's that they're tying it back in right?

[00:22:27] They're like hey, hey remember how we're talking, remember how this is symbolism?

[00:22:31] Yeah.

[00:22:31] Remember how this isn't actually like the thing that we're talking about?

[00:22:33] Yeah it's Israel.

[00:22:37] Yeah.

[00:22:38] Haha.

[00:22:38] Crazy huh?

[00:22:40] Get it, get it.

[00:22:40] Wait no I'm a dad joke.

[00:22:43] Do you see what I did there?

[00:22:46] Okay therefore I am now going to allure her.

[00:22:49] I will lead her into the wilderness and speak tenderly to her.

[00:22:55] Okay.

[00:22:56] There I will give her back her vineyards and will make the valley of Acre a door

[00:23:02] of hope.

[00:23:04] Okay.

[00:23:05] So that's clearly something in the Q&A that we need to find out.

[00:23:08] Right.

[00:23:08] The fuck is a door of hope?

[00:23:10] What is the valley of Acre?

[00:23:12] No idea.

[00:23:13] Me neither.

[00:23:13] Yeah.

[00:23:15] There she will respond as in the days of her youth, as in the day she came up out

[00:23:21] of Egypt, Israel.

[00:23:23] Okay.

[00:23:23] You know?

[00:23:23] Yeah.

[00:23:24] Not this bitch.

[00:23:25] Sure.

[00:23:26] Okay.

[00:23:26] In that day declares the Lord, you will call me my husband and you will no longer call

[00:23:34] me my master.

[00:23:37] Okay.

[00:23:40] You're the one that made us call you master in the first place.

[00:23:43] This is really weird.

[00:23:43] This is sick honestly.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:45] It's bizarre.

[00:23:47] It's twisted.

[00:23:48] It's dark.

[00:23:49] It ain't right.

[00:23:50] Yeah I agree.

[00:23:52] I feel kind of.

[00:23:52] I don't really, this is really, I don't know what else to say but it's weird.

[00:23:59] You know what makes me sad?

[00:24:01] I mean, this is like, you can't read this in front of children.

[00:24:04] It makes me very uncomfortable, right?

[00:24:07] I mean, definitely.

[00:24:07] I'm reading the Bible.

[00:24:09] Yeah.

[00:24:09] Right.

[00:24:10] You couldn't teach this.

[00:24:13] You shouldn't teach this in Sunday school.

[00:24:15] Let's just leave it at that.

[00:24:16] I don't know if they do or not.

[00:24:17] I don't really care.

[00:24:19] You shouldn't teach this in Sunday school.

[00:24:20] I don't really fucking freak.

[00:24:22] This is just, it's not a good message.

[00:24:26] I feel like if we ever went back and reread the whole book, like every chapter at the

[00:24:31] end we would be like reading it.

[00:24:34] How appropriate is this chapter for children?

[00:24:38] I feel like there wouldn't be many that were appropriate.

[00:24:40] Right?

[00:24:41] Like out of, like a, I don't know, one out of ten or like one out of five.

[00:24:46] Right.

[00:24:46] There'd probably be a more available in like proverbs because they're shorter.

[00:24:50] Right.

[00:24:51] You know, like so occasionally they're going to have one that you can be like, oh, we

[00:24:54] could read that one.

[00:24:54] Yeah.

[00:24:55] Okay.

[00:24:56] So.

[00:24:56] But even like Noah, right?

[00:24:58] Yeah.

[00:24:58] Like you can't read Noah.

[00:25:00] His son saw his ding dong.

[00:25:02] Woo-hoo.

[00:25:02] Even the arc story, if you tell it like it's told in the Bible.

[00:25:06] Yeah.

[00:25:07] You can't tell that story to kids and not expect them.

[00:25:10] Like that's not okay.

[00:25:11] God drowned everybody and they all died.

[00:25:14] Right.

[00:25:14] Which what?

[00:25:14] You have to find a way.

[00:25:16] Like if you're, and they do because that's what the children's Bibles do and everything.

[00:25:19] Right?

[00:25:20] They have to find a way to pitch mass murder nicely.

[00:25:26] Right.

[00:25:26] Like what?

[00:25:27] Why should I have to find, we're teaching kids something where we have to find a nice

[00:25:33] way to say that their God killed everybody.

[00:25:36] Right.

[00:25:36] And that's, that's crazy.

[00:25:37] Like do you hear the words coming out of your fucking mouth?

[00:25:41] Right.

[00:25:41] No, it's an insane ideology that we're pitching and we're trying to teach our kids,

[00:25:47] apparently not us.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:49] But people are trying to teach their kids about a mass murdering God that supposedly

[00:25:54] loves them but hates them, but loves them, but hates them, but loves them, but hates

[00:25:57] them.

[00:25:57] Holy fucking shit.

[00:25:59] And kills them all.

[00:26:00] Jesus.

[00:26:01] Over and over.

[00:26:02] Stop.

[00:26:03] Yeah.

[00:26:03] God, you know, just back off man.

[00:26:06] And then calls us worms and calls us whores.

[00:26:09] Right.

[00:26:09] I hate him.

[00:26:12] He's not good.

[00:26:13] It's not good.

[00:26:13] This book is bad.

[00:26:14] It is this one specifically.

[00:26:17] I'm not, I don't like how many chapters is Hosea?

[00:26:21] Honestly, I don't know.

[00:26:22] I could.

[00:26:22] So ready too many.

[00:26:23] It is too many.

[00:26:25] Um, so I'm going to continue.

[00:26:27] Yeah.

[00:26:28] I will remove.

[00:26:29] This is God still talking.

[00:26:30] Sure.

[00:26:31] I will remove the names of the ballalls from her lips.

[00:26:34] No longer will their names be invoked.

[00:26:37] Really?

[00:26:38] Cause you wrote it down and we're still saying it.

[00:26:40] Right.

[00:26:41] This day.

[00:26:43] In that day, I will make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, the birds in

[00:26:48] the sky and the creatures that move along the ground that would be like snakes or what?

[00:26:55] Sure.

[00:26:57] Bow and sword and battle.

[00:26:59] I will abolish from the land so that all may lie down in safety.

[00:27:04] Wee.

[00:27:05] Here comes the gold.

[00:27:05] Okay.

[00:27:06] And the, you know, heaven manna from heaven kind of thing.

[00:27:11] I will be trolled you to me forever.

[00:27:14] You're, you're marrying me now.

[00:27:15] You know what that reminds me of?

[00:27:17] What's that?

[00:27:18] Beetle juice.

[00:27:19] What?

[00:27:20] Because beetle juice is like Lydia's going to marry me.

[00:27:24] You're just that I said so.

[00:27:26] Okay.

[00:27:26] I'm the guy.

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:27] I'm the magical power guy.

[00:27:29] Right.

[00:27:30] Um, I like Lydia.

[00:27:32] She's pretty.

[00:27:32] She's hot.

[00:27:33] And I'm going to make her marry me.

[00:27:34] The end.

[00:27:35] Got it.

[00:27:36] She's been trolling me now.

[00:27:37] Yeah.

[00:27:38] No, the, yeah, I mean there's, there is no choice, right?

[00:27:40] Right.

[00:27:41] Like the guy out of the Bible does not give the Israelites a choice.

[00:27:44] They don't have free will.

[00:27:46] It's, it's follow me or die.

[00:27:48] Yeah.

[00:27:48] That's essentially the, the choice that you have.

[00:27:50] I wonder if they were ever like, dude, um, what did we do?

[00:27:56] Like we made this guy and now this guy's like be gone out of control.

[00:28:02] Right.

[00:28:03] That's weird, right?

[00:28:05] Yeah.

[00:28:06] It's like you made the tiger and then you pulled the tiger's tail that you made and

[00:28:11] then you were like, oh my God, this tiger that I made turn around and bit my face off.

[00:28:16] Hmm.

[00:28:17] Why'd you make the fucking tiger?

[00:28:19] And also why'd you pull its tail?

[00:28:21] Right.

[00:28:22] You're dumb.

[00:28:23] I will betroth you to me forever.

[00:28:25] I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion.

[00:28:31] False.

[00:28:32] That was a true and false, right?

[00:28:34] False.

[00:28:35] I will betroth you in faithfulness and you will acknowledge the Lord.

[00:28:40] Right.

[00:28:41] You will.

[00:28:41] Because that's all that really matters actually.

[00:28:43] Don't forget to say I'm pretty and that my dick is big.

[00:28:46] Don't forget.

[00:28:47] In that day, I will respond, declares the Lord.

[00:28:50] I will respond to the skies and they will respond to the earth and the earth will

[00:28:57] respond to the grain, the new wine and the olive oil and they will respond to

[00:29:02] Jezreel.

[00:29:03] I will plant her for myself in the land.

[00:29:07] I will show my love to the one I called not my loved one.

[00:29:11] I will say to those called not my people.

[00:29:15] You're my people.

[00:29:17] You're my people.

[00:29:18] I was just joshin ya and they will say you are my God.

[00:29:23] The end.

[00:29:24] I see.

[00:29:26] This just seems like a lot of like...

[00:29:29] Abuse?

[00:29:30] Yeah.

[00:29:31] Mental abuse, emotional abuse?

[00:29:33] Oh yeah.

[00:29:34] Torture?

[00:29:35] Yeah.

[00:29:36] Intrapment.

[00:29:38] I mean like they were literally trapping people and yeah, no it's not a healthy

[00:29:45] relationship here.

[00:29:46] No, obsession.

[00:29:49] I would suggest divorce.

[00:29:50] I would suggest running away.

[00:29:54] Not like year 700 negative BCE divorce?

[00:30:01] Yeah.

[00:30:01] Like current day divorce.

[00:30:03] I would recommend restraining order even.

[00:30:06] Yeah.

[00:30:06] Yeah.

[00:30:07] Dude's got some issues.

[00:30:09] Yeah.

[00:30:09] And he needs to work on, he needs some mental health help.

[00:30:17] Yeah.

[00:30:18] And your little God too.

[00:30:23] So anyway...

[00:30:24] I don't know if it's funny.

[00:30:25] Yeah.

[00:30:26] Your little God.

[00:30:26] Yeah, I got it.

[00:30:28] Do you see what I did there?

[00:30:30] Yes.

[00:30:30] Okay, sorry what?

[00:30:32] I was just gonna say I don't really, there's only 14 chapters.

[00:30:36] Oh okay.

[00:30:37] So we'll be done soon.

[00:30:39] Yay.

[00:30:40] I mean okay at least there's a story and I do want to know what happens next.

[00:30:45] I'm trying to be fair here.

[00:30:47] I do but I don't like, I'm very not, I don't like the way this is going.

[00:30:53] No I don't either.

[00:30:54] And it doesn't, it's not a good look for the Bible.

[00:31:00] This chapter did make me feel yucky.

[00:31:03] Yeah.

[00:31:03] Like it made me feel very uncomfortable.

[00:31:05] Right.

[00:31:06] Yeah.

[00:31:06] And I'm laughing and joking but it's actually not funny.

[00:31:10] They have used women before in the Bible for symbolism, but not like as much.

[00:31:17] This feels very overt and lightened.

[00:31:20] Oh it was.

[00:31:21] It was.

[00:31:21] And in your face and down your throat.

[00:31:23] Yeah, yeah.

[00:31:24] Tied to the table.

[00:31:25] Right.

[00:31:25] Yeah.

[00:31:26] Like I don't care for it.

[00:31:28] Alright I think we're just kind of spinning our wheels here hating this chapter.

[00:31:32] Okay you're right.

[00:31:33] So how about we get out of it?

[00:31:36] I'm done.

[00:31:37] Yeah so we, that was Hosea chapter two.

[00:31:40] Sure as fuck was.

[00:31:41] We will quickly forget about this one and move on to tomorrow we'll be back with.

[00:31:45] Hosea chapter three buddy.