In this no-holds-barred episode of our blasphemously insightful podcast, we take a deep dive into the enigmatic world of Jeremiah Chapter 27. Join us as we strip away the holy veneer and expose the downright bizarre narrative where Jeremiah, possibly history's first spin doctor, touts the Babylonian tyrant Nebuchadnezzar as God's BFF. Yes, you heard it right – the almighty apparently has a soft spot for foreign despots.
We'll unravel the comedic spectacle of Jeremiah donning yokes and bonds, which might just be ancient performance art at its finest, or perhaps a desperate bid for attention. Imagine him at the city gates, the OG protester, giving those Westboro folks a run for their money.
Our discussion mercilessly mocks the so-called divine decrees that conveniently support political submission. We're calling out the celestial strings being pulled here, and spoiler alert: it smells like a heavenly load of BS. We're not just questioning the historical accuracy of the famed seventy-year domination prophecy; we're tearing it to shreds and calling out the theological implications.
Expect a scathing critique of the Bible's claim that submitting to a conqueror is somehow a spiritual win. Let's be real: If God's plan includes cozying up to invaders, maybe it's time to switch deities or, better yet, abandon the divine stock market altogether.
Get ready to question everything you thought you knew about prophets and politics as we dissect the roles of diviners, dreamers, and ancient influencers. Are they the predecessors to modern-day conspiracy theorists? Listen in and decide for yourself.
Tune in to this episode of "Jeremiah Chapter 27" for a blasphemously good time, where we don't just read between the lines – we rewrite them with a heavy dose of skepticism and a side of snark. Because let's face it, when it comes to ancient prophecies, we'd rather trust our horoscope.
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[00:01:16] Welcome to sacrilegious discourse. I'm husband and I'm wife. Together we're reading the
[00:01:20] Bible for the very first time. We grew up without religion and wanted to know what all the
[00:01:25] fuss was about. Well what did we learn so far? That God is a dick and apparently some people
[00:01:30] believe in talking donkeys. We're not trying to pass ourselves off as experts. Nope we're just
[00:01:35] reading the Bible for the first time and giving our first take reaction. If you'd like to join us
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[00:01:44] Alright let's go read the Bible. Yeah let's get to it.
[00:01:50] Husband! Wife! Do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today?
[00:01:55] Well we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 26. That is correct. And in that chapter they made
[00:02:01] Jeremiah sound really fucking brave when I thought he was just kind of fucking whiny in the past
[00:02:07] because he got up in front of a bunch of people and he was like you're all going to burn
[00:02:12] and God's gonna kill you unless you repent and then they were like fuck you dude and they like
[00:02:17] pull them down and they're like we're gonna like not take that and you're in trouble and you might
[00:02:22] die. And then they talked over and they were like well but God so I guess you're okay.
[00:02:28] And then it wasn't just people that he was talking to? No it was like priests and you know
[00:02:33] like the leaders of the Jerusalem or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. But yeah they all decided
[00:02:39] that I guess he's okay and they started I mean okay being they aren't gonna kill them I guess.
[00:02:43] Right. But they made Jeremiah sound really fucking brave. He's like doing this. My life is in your
[00:02:49] hands but that changes nothing. Right and this is not the Jeremiah I know. Uh uh me neither.
[00:02:55] Right. Sure. I don't know whatever. But it is the people that I know because they are very
[00:03:00] timid at following through with going up against God you know what I mean? Sure.
[00:03:09] Yeah well that's why they worship like 5 million gods they're like yeah.
[00:03:12] Well we'll just hedge our bets over here. Right and then they were like you remember
[00:03:16] Micah and remember your whatever that other guy you're sure. Yeah. And they were like maybe I don't
[00:03:24] know let's just err on the side of caution and let them go. Right right yeah so that was basically
[00:03:30] Jeremiah 26. It was which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 27. All right let's do
[00:03:37] this. Okie dokie. All right we are jumping into Jeremiah chapter 27. Are you ready for this
[00:03:52] show? I am ready. Okay in the beginning. Not every fucking chapter we're gonna do in the beginning
[00:03:59] of the reign of walk him. Ah okay. The son of Josiah King of Judah this word came to Jeremiah
[00:04:07] from the Lord saying. Okay I'm ready. Okay I'm God talking to Jeremiah right now according to
[00:04:14] Jeremiah. Right yeah. Thus says the Lord to me make for yourselves bonds and yolks and put them
[00:04:21] on your neck and send them to the king of Edom the king of Moab the king of the Ammonites the king
[00:04:28] of Tear and the king of Cidon by the hand of the messengers who come to Jerusalem to Zedekaya
[00:04:35] King of Judah. Here go and slave yourselves it's fun. Exactly join us. Exactly so do you know what
[00:04:43] bonds and yolks are? I yeah yolks are the things that you put over your head aren't they like
[00:04:48] they look like I don't know like you put two boards and leather straps that hold the boards together
[00:04:54] sure over like an oxen's head that's what I was in it. So that it can plow yeah right and so the
[00:05:02] boards are the yolk or the whole device together is the yolk and then the bands are the bonds got
[00:05:08] it okay so yeah he's like maybe know the exact terminology about which pieces were which but yes
[00:05:13] I was imagining the thing that goes over the animals heads for you know yeah he's he's doing that
[00:05:19] yeah yeah yeah or it's also the same thing you see in like old movies where they're like slave
[00:05:25] driving people on a lion of chains and yolks basically like you know the same like you've got those
[00:05:29] things over their head that's true yeah so I found a few things about that if if you would like
[00:05:37] or we can wait till Saturday whichever you prefer um sure go ahead okay so um forcing another to
[00:05:44] wear the yolk says I am the boss you work for me I regard you as a burst of a beast of burden
[00:05:50] obviously a burst of beaten yes and um there are no say that Jeremiah Jeremiah likely spoke to a
[00:06:00] gathering of messengers from the kings surrounding the kingdom so like when he called out
[00:06:06] Edom Moab emanates here inside on talking specifically to the kings to the messengers from
[00:06:13] the kings yes got it okay and they had probably come to meet with kings at a kaya of juda
[00:06:19] to plot a revolt against nebuchadnezzar's rule over them and Jeremiah probably spoke before them
[00:06:26] actually wearing the bonds and yolks giving them a vivid message to take back to their kings
[00:06:33] and um the reason that they were there trying to you know come up with some plot to work against
[00:06:41] nebuchadnezzar was because attacks from elom and a revolt in Syria made these troubled times for
[00:06:49] nebuchadnezzar and small states in the west thought they saw an opportunity to revolt and throw off
[00:06:56] quote the yolk of Babylon got it got it yeah so I thought that was interesting right right like um
[00:07:03] they're they're thinking hey let's you know plan with the king here and see if we can come up with a
[00:07:08] I'm imagining Jeremiah though as like the crazy person outside of the king's gates just going like right
[00:07:13] no you're all going to go to hell and you're gonna get enslaved and and see what's going to happen
[00:07:20] to you unless you were pints they're like just looking at each other like is this how it be here
[00:07:25] the Babylon's or not and then yeah and then is that a kaya comes out he's like no no just ignore them
[00:07:31] right yeah whatever sorry sorry I can't do anything his parents are rich I don't know man just
[00:07:36] just go on by him so did you know I was not aware but on Sunday well I did know that Sunday night
[00:07:42] was the Oscars yeah and did you know that they ran about five to ten minutes late because of
[00:07:49] protesters that were saying while you're watching this show of opulence and ridiculousness
[00:07:57] bombs are being dropped in um Palestine in Palestine right yeah and so they were they're
[00:08:04] um trying to stop basically the Oscars or at least make it difficult to get into
[00:08:11] right in order to make a point and to make you know yeah the way they do right and um so a bunch
[00:08:21] of celebrities and their gowns and fancy suits and whatever yeah had to walk around to a different
[00:08:27] side door whatever to get into the actual red carpet area so it did actually
[00:08:35] and there were people in the ceremony itself wearing giant red pins red dot pins that were
[00:08:45] supposed to indicate ceasefire now so I thought that was really cool yeah but the relevance here
[00:08:52] you're looking at me like I'm a nutball wise yeah I'm trying to I don't know what the relevance is
[00:08:56] people standing outside of a place um protesting in the case of the Oscars it was for a good cause
[00:09:04] in the case of Jeremiah I don't even know what to say about that dude got it I just I didn't know
[00:09:09] where you're going with that I just protestors no I get it now I get it now yeah protestors
[00:09:14] I didn't understand at the time what you were getting at I know it's just your face was like
[00:09:18] because I was confused I was confused they're all protesting their protesters are protesting
[00:09:25] yeah okay so anyway and command them God's still talking okay yeah after all of that shit that I
[00:09:32] just said right is still talking okay blah blah blah um put on these yokes and take them back to your
[00:09:37] king's is right and command them to say to their masters thus says the lord of hosts the god of Israel
[00:09:44] thus you shall say to your masters I have made the earth the man and the beast that are on the ground
[00:09:51] by my great power and by my outstretched arm and have given it to whom it seemed proper to me
[00:09:58] but let me ask you this okay yeah so somebody from another country comes to you
[00:10:05] and then this guy is like yelling in their face like my god made you my god made man I'm going
[00:10:11] to think the dude's crazy right like um okay that's not like what we believe what thank you
[00:10:17] right and I went there to talk to a fucking king not a good I'm not gonna come back and be like oh
[00:10:22] and by the way there was this guy talking about God right not our God but some God some various
[00:10:27] God outside of the gates of the local state pray so yeah if you want to take his warning he said that
[00:10:33] God his God said this so there you go exactly I it probably didn't even warrant a mention you know
[00:10:40] to the people that if it did if it did it was surely with derision sure yeah you know okay
[00:10:47] and now God continues I have given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king
[00:10:54] of Babylon my servant hmm okay I mean I would be like if I'm from another place right and Jeremiah
[00:11:01] tells me this I'd be like wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute um Nebuchadnezzar is the servant
[00:11:09] of your god right I don't understand what's happening against this guy yeah I don't want anything to do
[00:11:14] with if your God is siding with Nebuchadnezzar and that's what we're saying here then then
[00:11:19] fuck off right your god can fuck off wait what what are you saying I don't understand you right and he
[00:11:25] doesn't have us yet that's why we're here meeting trying to figure out how to not be exactly exactly
[00:11:31] okay God continues talking yeah and the beast of the field I have also given to him to serve
[00:11:37] so all nations shall serve him and his son and his son son until the time of the his land comes
[00:11:44] and then many nations and great kings shall make him serve them and it shall be that the nation
[00:11:49] and kingdom which will not serve Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon and which will not put its neck
[00:11:55] under the yoke of the king of Babylon that nation I will punish says the Lord hold on hey but we've
[00:12:04] had another part in this book where it said that it was going to be 70 years and he just got done
[00:12:08] so God let us not forget these chapters are out of order but regardless right so he's saying that
[00:12:15] Nebuchadnezzar's son and then his son and then his son son are going to rule before he punishes
[00:12:22] the next whatever right so we're talking about three and a half generations let's just assume
[00:12:28] Nebuchadnezzar's halfway through his reign right yeah three and a half fucking generations of people
[00:12:32] let's assume they all reign for 20 years right you're I mean I guess okay if they each
[00:12:38] reign for 20 years and he's halfway through his reign maybe maybe that is right at 70 I guess
[00:12:43] that could work out but it just doesn't seem quite right yeah we're talking about three and a half
[00:12:48] generations of people and he's gonna make that 70 years when some people reign for like 40 years
[00:12:54] and you know like and then there's the ones that only do three months but right so I guess
[00:12:59] but you're assuming that they each have sons so we have to grow up old enough to rule at some point
[00:13:04] and I don't know one of the dudes started ruling at the age of like 12 or whatever okay okay okay
[00:13:09] I mean who are you to criticize no you're right I don't I don't know how to all pan out and you
[00:13:13] know whatever it just doesn't just doesn't sound right doesn't sound right that's right right
[00:13:18] you know having said that the chapters are out of order yeah or yeah the chapters I should have
[00:13:24] actually started with it's okay if I'm out of the order the Bible's out of order right right
[00:13:28] I should have actually started with the material found in Jeremiah 27 is actually Jeremiah 34
[00:13:36] in the Septuagint oh Jesus yeah which is the Greek version I can't I know I know like I don't
[00:13:43] understand what you're telling me right yeah it is the Septuagint the correct and look you know
[00:13:49] this book that's out of order yeah it's even more fucked up in other places yeah okay
[00:13:54] great thank you for that information I don't know what to do with it also it has been suggested
[00:14:00] that chapters 27 28 and 29 uh-huh are a special collection of Jeremiah's prophecies dealing with
[00:14:07] false prophets and that certain stylistic peculiarities in the Hebrew make it likely that these
[00:14:15] three chapters once existed as an independent work oh yeah so that is kind of great okay so
[00:14:25] apologies I should have led with that but the Bible gets to be out of sorts so why can't I if God
[00:14:31] can't get it straight right certainly cannot expect how can we expect to be better than the
[00:14:36] Septuagint season to get it straight right hey so okay therefore do not listen to okay wait
[00:14:45] with this oh um he says blah blah blah under the yoke of the king of Babylon that nation I will punish
[00:14:53] and then he continues with the sword the famine and the pestilence until I have consumed them by
[00:14:59] his hand okay by his hand being God's hand either God or someone on nebuchadnezzar whatever all right
[00:15:08] doesn't matter I'm having there's a lot of pronouns here and I'm having trouble following it is
[00:15:11] pronoun abuse yeah it is yeah it's either I think it's God but even if it's not specifically God it'll
[00:15:18] be nebuchadnezzar but still God okay right maybe maybe therefore do not listen to your prophets your
[00:15:28] diviners your dreamers your susayers your sorcerers who speak to you saying you shall not serve the
[00:15:34] king of Babylon for they prophecy a light to you to remove you far from your land and I will drive
[00:15:41] you out and you will fucking perish says yet another prophet to them I know right I'm just saying so
[00:15:47] I have a note about all those people that he mentioned okay diviners were people who
[00:15:56] gave prognostications and they guessed at future stuff happening by certain signs in the
[00:16:04] animate or inanimate things around them okay so like the tea leaves or homes or whatever they
[00:16:11] would just like look around and be like it's a sign so they were diviners dreamers were dream
[00:16:18] interpreters okay so they would take up the broken bits and pieces of dreams to try to put together
[00:16:25] a meaning yeah of their own interpretation well and then to be fair all these things have kind of
[00:16:31] been used throughout the Bible as ways to prophesize for things that God is saying too yes so I mean
[00:16:36] I don't want to discount as far as the Bible is concerned yeah I wouldn't want to discount their
[00:16:42] legitimacy in cannon in cannon right versus some other prophet because similar it's fine
[00:16:49] it has been used it's fine when it's y'all ways people right yeah whatever a suit sayer is a cloud
[00:16:56] monger okay okay they study the flight colored density rarity and shape of clouds that's what a
[00:17:04] suit sayer does got it I thought a suit sayer was a truth teller but I guess it's a truth teller
[00:17:10] but based on the clouds I see I didn't know that and a sorcerer and all of this is from they get
[00:17:18] to put magic fireballs right I wish right they are the discoverers the finders out of hidden things
[00:17:27] stolen goods etc they are people who use incantations and either by spells or drugs pretend to find out
[00:17:36] mysteries or produce supernatural effects hmm yeah right I'm yeah okay okay it's like it's like
[00:17:47] they're saying these magical people aren't magical I mean sometimes they do magic things but the
[00:17:53] magic that they do is not to be trusted and usually it's fake anyway you know that would be a
[00:17:58] really good way to say that you are a sorcerer is to drug your your crowd if you drug your crowd yeah
[00:18:04] then he did some crazy shit they'd be like damn man yeah he's really doing some crazy stuff yeah
[00:18:11] he must be a sorcerer you're so diviner what no yeah okay so but the nations that bring their
[00:18:20] necks under the yoke of the king of Babylon and serve him I will let them remain in their own land
[00:18:26] says the Lord and they shall till it and dwell in it so he's again like last time he was telling
[00:18:33] the people just wave your white flag and yeah you know bow down and give up and you'll get to survive
[00:18:39] right but he's even saying that thing is saying their own land well he's saying this to the leaders
[00:18:44] right tell your kings if you all just give in to Babylon I'll let you live but and and stay in your
[00:18:52] own land and stay in your own land which you'll be a slave on your own land okay okay all right
[00:18:57] all right but you still get to live there okay got it you don't get to live in the castle of your
[00:19:01] own land anymore right you'll be out there more than working the stuff and yeah doing things yeah
[00:19:07] okay I also I think we are back at Jeremiah speaking okay because there was a bunch of end
[00:19:14] quote marks quotes within quotes within quotes like there's three sets of close quotes that's not
[00:19:20] at all confusing at all yeah okay so I think we're back to Jeremiah speaking okay I also spoke
[00:19:27] to Zedekaya king of Judah according to all these words saying bring your necks under the yoke of
[00:19:34] the king of Babylon and serve him and his people and live why will you die you and your people
[00:19:41] by the sword by the famine and by the pestilence as the Lord has spoken against the nation
[00:19:46] that will not serve the king of Babylon therefore do not listen to the words of the prophets who speak
[00:19:52] to you saying you shall not serve the king of Babylon for they prophecy a lie to you
[00:19:59] for I have sent them says the Lord yet they prophecy a lie in my name oh so he did send them
[00:20:06] so those are I'm so sorry I misread that okay I apologize and I'm glad you caught that it says
[00:20:10] for I have not sent okay I was like what okay I apologize no that would make them outright liars
[00:20:17] yeah no I was like damn that's uh no you're right you're right I apologize that that one's on me
[00:20:22] that was on me oh no for I have not sent them says the Lord okay yet they prophecy a lie in my name
[00:20:30] that I may drive you out and that you may perish you and the prophets who prophecy to you again
[00:20:35] I want to point out that Jeremiah is the one saying this yeah God is saying this to apparently only
[00:20:42] Jeremiah and a few other prophets around and about sure sure but it's a select group of people
[00:20:48] that he's saying yeah you still have to distinguish you still have to determine that you want to
[00:20:53] believe this group versus that group yes so I just want I want that to be something that just keeps
[00:20:58] being stated because which prophet do you believe don't like it's that easy to distinguish who's
[00:21:04] telling the truth because they're all ridiculous statements of gods or things are causing these
[00:21:11] things to happen with it's not ridiculous to begin with and it's not like they could just google it
[00:21:17] right yeah and you know and they can't talk to God directly right so I mean like that that whole
[00:21:22] bits out you can't do that and they couldn't watch documentaries on Netflix I mean these people
[00:21:28] they couldn't even fucking read most of them so like oh how the fuck are they supposed to know
[00:21:32] what's going on and and they're like either way I got a moment long right yeah so the
[00:21:37] fuck it matters who's in charge yeah yeah like I just keep coming back to that like do you really
[00:21:41] think that the average person gave any fucks who was in charge well I mean obviously I would say
[00:21:48] that most people would want their lives to not be an up evil well yeah but as long as they were able
[00:21:55] to take care of each other and eat and have clothes on their back the evil you don't know is
[00:22:02] always worse than the evil you do know right yeah like and somebody promising you things will
[00:22:08] be better if you just do this right like that's not always a good sell right yeah yeah also he goes on
[00:22:17] I spoke to the priest and to all these people saying thus says the Lord do not listen to the words
[00:22:23] of your prophets who prophecy to you saying behold the vessels of the Lord's house will now shortly
[00:22:29] be brought back from Babylon for they prophecy a lie to you do not listen to them serve the king
[00:22:36] of Babylon and live why should this city be laid waste cool I mean I don't know why should this
[00:22:43] city be laid waste God yeah God why I mean it's true you have like infinite power right and yet
[00:22:52] you're you're literally telling your people to just go be enslaved yeah I don't get this
[00:22:57] I don't understand it is punishment but we have had so much punishment throughout the Bible that
[00:23:03] it feels like he punishes more than he praises yeah like he does not give a fuck he's just like
[00:23:09] y'all are y'all suck I feel like killing somebody today yeah who wants to die yeah okay I mean they
[00:23:15] say I've heard you know people talk about the angry old testament God but I had no idea yeah
[00:23:21] that it was this bad like just always and constantly he is such a pissy little brine again in can
[00:23:27] and assuming God assuming God right yeah like it's just a shitty run of behavior from this dude
[00:23:34] and how he treats his people like it's unbelievable but if they are prophets and if the word of the
[00:23:40] Lord is with them let them now make intercession to the Lord of hosts that the vessels which are
[00:23:46] left in the house of the Lord and the house of the king of Judah and at Jerusalem do not go to
[00:23:52] Babylon so he's basically like let's test your gods then like when Nebuchadnezzar came before
[00:23:59] and took the majority of the things yeah but he left some right like he's like remember all that
[00:24:06] remember how there's only a few things left yeah so okay pray to your gods that they don't get
[00:24:11] picked up and stolen and taken off like test your God I kind of feel like this group of prophets that
[00:24:18] is right now being embodied by Jeremiah mm-hmm might have been in cahoots with Nebuchadnezzar
[00:24:24] right like you know like he's he's definitely propagandizing sure you know just capitulating to the
[00:24:30] Catholics right he's like just giving yeah yeah and do what he says and it'll be easy if you were a
[00:24:37] king wanting to conquer a land wouldn't it behoove you to have an inside group of people that were
[00:24:43] pitching this point of view sure course people to be easier to conquer yeah yeah like I would much
[00:24:52] rather just walk in and lay chains on them then lose my own people in fighting a bloody war right
[00:25:00] especially when think about this too these are choice lands right like I don't want to ruin all
[00:25:06] those buildings and all the the you know farmland or whatever the agriculture like there this is
[00:25:13] some decent land that's why these people settled here right so it would be so much nicer if they
[00:25:19] would just you know lay down and let me enslave them well and look at this way too if you are Jeremiah
[00:25:24] right and you can understand that the outcome of this scenario is probably going to be Nebuchadnezzar
[00:25:31] going to do these things and he knows because he's in cahuech right yeah so if he knows these
[00:25:35] things he can be a prophet easier which then secures his place in history and the religion and all
[00:25:41] these things yeah because he is able to actually prophesize the correct information which then makes
[00:25:47] him eventually right look better it's true like there's so much here that could be I think no
[00:25:54] I'm just I'm just making wild assumptions here about like what could have possibly been I think
[00:26:00] that should be a movie though would that not be an amazing movie yeah Nebuchadnezzar putting people
[00:26:08] like Jeremiah in place to push an agenda onto the people of Jerusalem to lay down their arms
[00:26:16] but we're talking you know when we're talking about a much simpler time right yeah it would have been so
[00:26:20] easy to have if you had any brains about you as a person that was going to invade this would be
[00:26:25] such an easy right way to manipulate that group of people that you're trying to attack sure and
[00:26:31] and I I don't see it as far fetched I don't even consider enough to just Jeremiah right
[00:26:37] right and that's the only reason it comes to mind really is because the way he's talking about how
[00:26:41] easily he wants to just hand his own people over to be slaves to Nebuchadnezzar right what the
[00:26:48] fuck man fight fight always fight and land fight to the end fight whatever yeah I mean I just
[00:26:57] that makes more sense to me than God no that's all that that makes way more sense to me
[00:27:01] you know politics always makes more sense than religion honestly yeah like political intrigue
[00:27:07] well and we've talked about this in the past and other things but the person who wins the
[00:27:11] person who ends up being correct gets to write the history right so if Jeremiah is correct he gets
[00:27:16] to write the history that is believed yeah so he gets to write this from his point of view yeah or
[00:27:21] or or whatever the people that supported him get to write this from his point of view yeah and
[00:27:25] therefore we only get the Jeremiah side of this we don't get to see however everything else
[00:27:29] panned out because they don't no one that didn't make it through that didn't that didn't come
[00:27:35] through so we get to hear this very one side of the fair of what is Jeremiah's take on yeah and
[00:27:40] that group of people's take on this over this this invasion from Babylon not only that but here's
[00:27:47] another thing um he might not even have been hired by or chosen by Nebuchadnezzar he might have
[00:27:54] just been trying to ingratiate him knowing that Nebuchadnezzar were coming like let me get in good
[00:27:59] graces with this guy that's coming definitely I'm gonna be a prophet for him yeah so who knows right
[00:28:07] maybe he was just like fuck these people yeah might not even been like a co-opting thing it could
[00:28:12] have been just him yeah wanting to push himself forward in this new thing that he thinks is gonna happen
[00:28:18] I mean a PC's the inevitable how many times have we seen like movies about people that will
[00:28:25] sell out their entire culture or their entire civilization their entire country like they get
[00:28:32] a better slightly better position in the the world to come exactly exactly yeah yeah I mean every
[00:28:39] alien movie every like I can't even say like every um political movie where the country one
[00:28:48] country is taken over another there's always a traitor yeah yeah who sells out his own people
[00:28:52] and this is what I'd be more inclined to think about Jeremiah than than the whole god shit thing
[00:28:56] that we're going through here yeah it's true but I'm sorry I just had to get that point of view
[00:29:01] in because that's it's been nagging at me for multiple chapters now and I get so caught up in
[00:29:08] reading it and trying to make it make sense and I get mad because it's all got got got got got
[00:29:12] that I forget to like think of alternate perspectives so I'm really glad that you said that because
[00:29:17] I wouldn't have thought of it and that makes so much more sense right right yeah yeah uh I want to read
[00:29:22] again I don't want to state that like I'm not basing that on any anything other than my own
[00:29:27] hypotheses about how this sounds to me right I want to read that story I want to see that Netflix
[00:29:33] mini series I want to watch that movie do you think how much biblical fiction you could write if you
[00:29:38] took all these stories and like there's a lot of good like if you if you turned it into like let's
[00:29:43] just take it away from the Bible but turn it into a story of just politics and geography yeah yeah
[00:29:49] you could make some really interesting stuff you could yeah for thus says the Lord of hosts concerning
[00:29:55] the pillars concerning the sea you know the capital S. C. the bathroom yeah right yeah concerning
[00:30:01] the carts concerning the remainder of the vessels that remain in this city which nebukh
[00:30:06] Kinesir king of Babylon did not take when he carried away captive jyukh anaya the son of
[00:30:12] hwakim king of juda from Jerusalem to Babylon and all the nobles of juda and Jerusalem when he took
[00:30:19] all that shit yeah and all those guys right yes thus says the Lord of hosts the god of Israel
[00:30:25] concerning the vessels that remain in the house of the lord and in the house of the king of juda
[00:30:31] and Jerusalem they shall be carried to Babylon and there shall be a there they shall be until
[00:30:39] the day that I visit them says the Lord then I will bring them up and restore them to this place
[00:30:46] so he's like here's a test if you believe your gods so much about how no no nebukh Kinesir is not
[00:30:53] going to get us then have your gods stop these last few vessels from getting stolen right and see
[00:31:00] how that goes for you right but it feels again it feels very inevitable that these things are
[00:31:07] going to happen well yeah they were meeting they were getting together as multiple
[00:31:11] countries multiple groups of people to try to figure out a way to fight against nebukh Kinesir
[00:31:16] which he was definitely knocking at the door oh yeah for sure for sure regardless of whether
[00:31:22] what Jeremiah's intentions were I don't feel like any of this is hard to actually predict that it
[00:31:27] would no no no no you're right it's just something that's definitely going to happen and would
[00:31:33] happen regardless of the scenario that that actually goes on so definitely anyway anyway that the
[00:31:40] end of the chapter that is the end of the chapter all right so that was Jeremiah chapter 27 sure
[00:31:46] as fuck was which means that we'll be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 28 all right we'll see
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