Jeremiah Chapter 28: Atheist Bible Study

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[00:01:16] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. I'm husband. And I'm wife. Together we're reading the

[00:01:20] Bible for the very first time. We grew up without religion and wanted to know what all the fuss was

[00:01:25] about. Well, what do we learn so far? That God is a dick and apparently some people believe in

[00:01:31] talking donkeys. We're not trying to pass ourselves off as experts. Nope, we're just reading the

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[00:01:45] read the Bible. Yeah, let's get to it. Husband! Wife! Do you remember where the hell we are and how

[00:01:55] the hell we got here? Well, we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 27. We did. And what I recall

[00:02:02] from that is that Jeremiah was standing out in front of the castle maybe and he was talking to the

[00:02:09] messengers of other kings and being like hey y'all might want to change your ways or God's gonna

[00:02:14] you know send getcha Babylon's gonna get ya. Ain't fuckers! Somebody's gonna get ya.

[00:02:20] Send this message back. Go go. Yeah. Still right and the chapters are out of order. They were so

[00:02:28] out of order. Yeah, like we we were I don't even know what the fuck's going on anymore because we were

[00:02:33] back before when they still had a chance to redeem themselves apparently. Yeah. And then we had already

[00:02:39] read up it where they're like nope it's done. Yeah, it's over 70 years that's all you're cooked. Yeah

[00:02:44] so I don't know what fuck's going on there's there is no rhyme or reason to what we're reading about

[00:02:48] right now. Nope. So that was Jeremiah chapter 27. Sure as fuck was. And today we're getting into

[00:02:55] Jeremiah chapter 28. All right let's do this. Oh, giddyfggy.

[00:02:59] All right here we are on our live discord that is sad that if you're listening to this in the

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[00:03:22] it's so much fun. And right now we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 28. Yeah, you should totally

[00:03:28] join us. There'll be a link in the show notes for the discord channel. Yeah. And everybody

[00:03:32] teases me and calls me trashy and makes fun of me. Yeah, it's good time. It's good time. Yeah.

[00:03:38] Okay. And it happened in the same year, the same year. That very same year. Okay. At the beginning

[00:03:47] of the reign of Zedakaya King of Judah. Oh, back and forth. I'm back and forth. What year are we in now?

[00:03:53] I think we were talking about Zedakaya in the last one somehow. But I don't remember if it was the

[00:03:57] beginning or the middle. I don't know if you remember anyway whatever year that was at the beginning.

[00:04:04] Yeah. In the fourth year and in the fifth month that Hannah Naya or Hannah Montana. No, Hannah

[00:04:12] Naya. Yeah. The son of Azerr, the prophet. You know that guy? No, I don't. Who was from Ghibin?

[00:04:19] You know that place? I don't. He spoke to me in the house of the Lord. I guess me is Jeremiah.

[00:04:24] Right. So at least we know one guy. This is the Jeremiah book. So right. Okay. So this dude had

[00:04:30] what I call him headed diet. Hannah Naya. Hannah Naya spoke to me Jeremiah in the house of the

[00:04:37] Lord in the presence of the priest and of all the people. Okay. So we had some shit to say.

[00:04:41] Hannah Naya. I'm curious what they were talking about saying. Okay. Here we go. Yeah. This is what

[00:04:46] Hannah Naya said to me Jeremiah. Okay. The speaks the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel saying.

[00:04:54] Hannah Naya is telling Jeremiah what the Lord of hosts is saying? Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay.

[00:04:59] He's saying that the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel talked to Hannah Hannah Naya. Yeah.

[00:05:06] And so Hannah Naya's like, guess what God told me? Oh. So this is like a little. I don't know if

[00:05:10] Hannah Naya is a good guy or a bad guy. Well, I'm not there yet. They're comparing God. God knows.

[00:05:16] Yeah. God knows. Yeah. Okay. So this is what Hannah Naya says that God said,

[00:05:19] I have broken the yoke of the king of Babylon within. Did you really? Within two full years,

[00:05:26] I will bring back to this place all the vessels of the Lord's house that Nebuchadnezzar,

[00:05:31] king of Babylon, took away from this place and carried the Babylon. Oh, so this is one of the

[00:05:36] quote unquote false prophets. Yeah. It's got to be right? It's got to be because he's like,

[00:05:41] this isn't the way the prophet he's been going. So obviously, this is he's like, guess what God told me.

[00:05:46] Right. Yeah. Yeah. Now how I wonder how Jeremiah is going to respond? Me too. Okay. But Hannah

[00:05:51] Naya is still talking. Yeah. And I will bring back to this place. Jack and I are the son of Joachim,

[00:05:58] king of Judah with all the captives of Judah who went to Babylon says the Lord according to

[00:06:05] Hannah Naya. Got it. For I will break the yoke of the king of Babylon. Then the prophet Jeremiah

[00:06:12] spoke to the prophet Hannah Naya in the presence of the priests and in the presence of all the people

[00:06:17] who stood in the house of the Lord. And I bet that they were watching with like that tennis ball

[00:06:22] eyes that go back and forth with their mouths of gate. Yeah. And the prophet Jeremiah said, Amen.

[00:06:29] The Lord do so. The Lord perform your words which you have prophesied to bring back the vessels

[00:06:35] of the Lord's house and all who were carried away captive from Babylon to this place.

[00:06:40] Nevertheless, here now this word that I speak in your hearing and in the hearing of all the people,

[00:06:47] the prophets who have been before me and before you of old prophesied against many countries

[00:06:54] and great kingdoms of war and disaster and pestilence and zebra cakes. What? Okay, random.

[00:07:03] Nothing. Yeah, definitely not there. I was just thinking of zebra cakes because the kid was asking

[00:07:08] for some and I forgot to get them the first time but then the second time that I wanted to

[00:07:12] the grocery store I got them that time. Great. Yeah. So war disaster pestilence and zebra cakes.

[00:07:18] Okay, yeah. As for the prophet who prophecies a piece when the word of the prophet comes to pass,

[00:07:25] the prophet will be known as one whom the Lord has truly sent. So he's setting himself up to be the

[00:07:31] correct one is he's like we'll just see how this pans out. That's what Jeremiah says. Yeah.

[00:07:37] He's like if you say so. Yeah. As my guess that's my summary. This was sounds like great.

[00:07:43] If you say so guy. Yeah. Then Hannah and I are the prophet took the yoke off the prophet Jeremiah's neck

[00:07:50] and broke it. Oh, so there was a Jeremiah this was like a stage show. I told you he was wearing

[00:07:58] that he it was very likely remember I read the notes that was very likely that he was just

[00:08:04] yesterday. Okay, I told you it was very likely that he was wearing it himself when he was speaking

[00:08:09] to these other people. Got it. The messengers as like a display as like a show. I don't recall

[00:08:16] that but I believe that you did say it. I did totally 100% say it. Got it. Okay. Okay. So he was

[00:08:23] definitely wearing it then not maybe wearing it right. And so this Hannah and I guy was like give me

[00:08:29] that and he took it off of them and broke it. And Hannah and I have spoken the presence of all the

[00:08:34] people saying thus says the Lord even so I will break the yoke of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon

[00:08:41] from the neck of all nations within the space of two full years. We heard 70 but okay.

[00:08:48] Well, you're from Jeremiah right? This is the guy. Yeah. That's what I'm saying like wrong

[00:08:52] prophecy. Okay, guys, if you say so but I heard 70 from the other guy. Right. So we'll see.

[00:08:57] And the prophet Jeremiah went his way. Now the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah after Hannah and

[00:09:04] I have the prophet have broken the yoke from the neck of the prophet Jeremiah saying go and tell

[00:09:11] Hannah and I say the says the mother fucking Lord for thus says wait no, I lost my place. You have

[00:09:21] broken the yokes of wood but you have made in their place yokes of iron. So you are going from

[00:09:31] the frying pan into the fire got it. That's what God wants Jeremiah to tell Hannah and I that God said

[00:09:40] got it. Okay, are you following all this? Yeah, well, this is this is apparently even before

[00:09:46] like because he didn't Jeremiah literally wasn't arguing the prophecy apparently until he

[00:09:52] walked away and God told him the new prophecy. So like this is prior to I don't. Jeremiah actually

[00:09:57] having the prophecy that they're not being correct with these or something. I'm a little confused

[00:10:04] but okay, yeah, all right. Yeah, okay. So for thus says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel,

[00:10:10] I have put a yoke of iron on the neck of all these nations that they may serve never could

[00:10:14] Nazar king of Babylon and they shall serve him. And I have given him the beast of the field also. We

[00:10:21] okay, all right. Then the prophet Jeremiah said to Hannah and I have the prophet yeah here now

[00:10:28] Hannah and I the Lord has not sent you but you make this people trust in the lie. Oh, he called

[00:10:34] them a liar straight to his face. Wow. That was kind of brave. I'm in so yeah, I mean it's

[00:10:40] actually happened. If you did that, that's kind of brave. Right. Like I have all bark and very little

[00:10:47] bite. I don't know that I can walk up to somebody and in front of a whole crowd be like

[00:10:52] that's cool but you're lying. You're a liar. I don't have a good sense as to what everyone's

[00:10:59] status is though. Like I don't really know how high up Hannah and I is. I don't know how

[00:11:04] high up honestly Jeremiah is other than he had influential parents at some level. Right.

[00:11:09] parents or whatever, but I don't really. But also he's descended from a family that housed the

[00:11:15] ark at one point. Right. Right. But I don't quite understand the entire hierarchy of how everything

[00:11:22] breaks down with regard to who's the most important and who's you know, that's something that's

[00:11:26] missing in my understanding of what we're reading right now with regard to these two people talking.

[00:11:31] Right. Okay. That's all I'm saying. So would it help you determine whether or not it was a brave

[00:11:39] act for him to call Hannah and I a liar straight to his face in front of everybody if you understood

[00:11:46] Hannah and I as role? Well yes because it would if I understood his role with regard to what Jeremiah's

[00:11:53] role is, it would help me understand how detrimental it could be or isn't to his livelihood.

[00:12:01] But if he did this, that's why. Okay. So it would be interesting to me if we have the ability to

[00:12:06] cover that in the Q and A that we might, if we can look into that, that would be something that

[00:12:10] would interest me at least. So I will see what I can find on Hannah and I. I'm not sure there's a lot

[00:12:15] of not necessarily Hannah and I out. The just the general hierarchy of how profits versus

[00:12:20] priests versus kings etc all kind of breaks down with regard to society at that time.

[00:12:26] Okay. Well, these are both quote-unquote profits so they would have been somewhat equal. But there

[00:12:32] might be the eyes of the people. There might be elders. There might be juniors. There might be you know,

[00:12:35] I don't, I don't, you know, I don't know. I don't, again, I don't know how it all breaks down.

[00:12:39] I would be curious to find out. Okay. Got it. I'll see what I can find for you. Yeah.

[00:12:44] I mean, it may not result in any information but I don't expect it'll be easy to find what you're

[00:12:50] looking for. Probably not because I do not have the droids you see. Yeah.

[00:12:55] Therefore that says the Lord, behold, I will cast you from the face of the earth. He's going to

[00:13:02] fling mother fuck around to space. Damn, this year you shall die. Boom, because you have taught rebellion

[00:13:09] against the Lord. Just let I tell you. Wow. Hey, but just a minute ago Jeremiah walked away

[00:13:14] agreeing with him. Well, he was like we'll see. Yeah, right. He wasn't agreeing with them.

[00:13:19] He was like yelling at him. If you say so, right. But then God was like go tell that mother

[00:13:24] fucker that he's a liar. And so Jeremiah was like, God says you're a liar. Yeah.

[00:13:30] And then Hannah and I is like, and then um, so God's like, oh, go tell that mother fucker.

[00:13:37] I'm not killing. I'm a guy who goes up tell somebody else they hate so and so is going to be

[00:13:41] waiting for you in the whatever after school. So he's going to wait for you on the playground.

[00:13:46] Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it is. Right. Jeremiah's like Jesus Christ.

[00:13:53] Okay. So this year you shall die because you have taught rebellion against the Lord.

[00:13:58] Okay. So Jeremiah delivered that message to Hannah and I. Yeah.

[00:14:02] So Hannah and I of the prophet died the same year and the seventh month. The end.

[00:14:05] Well, that's just convenient. They got that prophecy correct.

[00:14:09] That they that God told Jeremiah to tell him this thing and then it happened.

[00:14:12] And then now we can just totally believe everything in the Bible because that was correct.

[00:14:17] According to the Bible written by Jeremiah thousands of years ago through multiple translations.

[00:14:22] Like basically Jeremiah's like sitting around with like his friends when he's old. He's like,

[00:14:28] so guess what? You remember that fuck face Hannah and I off way back when? Yeah.

[00:14:33] Yeah. No, he was only around for like a couple of years. Like yeah, you probably you young

[00:14:37] is wouldn't know him. And this was before your time. Right. Yeah. So anyway, hey, but you were there.

[00:14:42] Hey, so do you remember that time when he got up in my face and I was like, God says your liar?

[00:14:48] Well, nobody else knows this. But like I totally told him. God said you're going to die this year.

[00:14:54] And then he did what do you think of that? Right. And then all the oldsters are like,

[00:15:01] this could depend on the time frames of when this happened. This could explain why you remember when

[00:15:07] he lay it was, I think it was last chapter right where they was up. No, no, no, might have been two

[00:15:10] chapters ago where he was up in front of everybody and telling them, um, you know, doom and gloom.

[00:15:16] Everything's going to be bad. And then they took him captive, right? Yeah. And then they sat down

[00:15:22] talk, they talked about it. They had a little quorum and discussed things and they decided to let

[00:15:27] him go because he's pitching God's word or whatever. Right. Well, if he had done this prior and

[00:15:32] this guy died prior to that happening, somebody might have been like, Hey, you know, that one guy

[00:15:38] he died. That had a naya did die like the scene where we don't fuck with him too much because maybe

[00:15:46] yeah, I don't know. But like just to sit on the air of caution, I don't want to die. So like,

[00:15:50] maybe we just let him go. You said side on the air of caution. You pulled

[00:15:54] at me. It's air on the side of caution. Oh, you did a total way of flip words. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:02] You did that thing. You've never done that. Do you have the Alzheimer's now? Oh my God. You've

[00:16:08] never done that before. I'm freaked out right now. You guys I'm freaked out. Oh my God. Okay,

[00:16:14] sorry. Go on. I'm listening. I don't remember where I was going. No, but you're right because they

[00:16:19] they would have been like, okay, so we were totally mad at you Jeremiah, but then we just remembered

[00:16:25] that there is precedent for this with Micah. And then also remember a couple of years ago he

[00:16:29] totally was like, Hannah and I are you are gonna die, fucker? And then he did. Yeah, let's just let him go.

[00:16:35] Right, right. Yeah, that could make some sense. I mean, you know, in regard to an actual story

[00:16:40] that might make sense, I guess. Yeah. So whatever. Maybe he killed Hannah and I made the

[00:16:48] Prophecy come through. I wouldn't put that out of the Roman possibilities. Right? He's like,

[00:16:54] you gonna die. He seems very intent on being a prophet. And then in the back of his mind,

[00:16:59] he's like, I'm gonna make sure that this prophecy comes true. Yeah. Oh, I want to I want to read

[00:17:06] this book. Oh my gosh. There's so many things you could do with it. Just depending on how you

[00:17:10] create Jeremiah as that character that could be a nefarious character. Yeah. You know, I want

[00:17:15] I want to read the book where Jeremiah is this power hungry ladder climbing mother fucker. See,

[00:17:23] I was thinking more like a Dexter, but Bible is like a sociopathic biblical prophet. Yes.

[00:17:30] Yes. Like that, that sounds better to me. Yes. I think that would be the way to go with it.

[00:17:35] But without the incest and without like the whole, well, actually, it is Bible. So I take that back.

[00:17:42] There could be an incest. Yeah. There's really nothing you couldn't do with regard to the Bible.

[00:17:49] Yeah. I started to say, I don't know Dexter's too far, but no, you're right is Dexter further

[00:17:54] than the Bible? Absolutely not. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, that's a statement right there.

[00:18:00] The Bible is not worse than Dexter. No wait. The Bible is worse than Dexter. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:18:06] That's sad. Yeah. That ain't right. Okay. All right. Well, that was Jeremiah chapter 28.

[00:18:13] Sure. Fuck was. Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 29.

[00:18:18] All right. We'll see you then. Okie dokie.

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