Lamentations Chapter 1: Bible Study BY Atheists

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[00:01:16] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse.

[00:01:17] I'm husband.

[00:01:18] And I'm wife.

[00:01:19] Together we're reading the Bible for the very first time.

[00:01:22] We grew up without religion and wanted to know what all the fuss was about.

[00:01:26] Well, what have we learned so far?

[00:01:27] That God is a dick and apparently some people believe in talking donkeys.

[00:01:32] We're not trying to pass ourselves off as experts.

[00:01:34] Nope, we're just reading the Bible for the first time and giving our first take reaction.

[00:01:38] If you'd like to join us in this venture, you might consider starting at episode one.

[00:01:42] Otherwise jump in wherever you like.

[00:01:44] Alright, let's go read the Bible.

[00:01:46] Yeah, let's get to it.

[00:01:50] Husband!

[00:01:51] Wife!

[00:01:52] Guess what?

[00:01:53] We are starting a new book of the Bible.

[00:01:55] We sure as fuck are.

[00:01:57] Which book are we starting again?

[00:01:58] We are starting Lamentations.

[00:02:01] Okay, is there a lot of lamenting going on in this?

[00:02:04] Actually there is.

[00:02:05] Oh okay.

[00:02:05] Yeah, they're using the word correctly.

[00:02:07] Oh!

[00:02:08] Yeah.

[00:02:08] Alright.

[00:02:09] Yeah.

[00:02:09] And I have a little bit of an intro to talk about what the fuck it is.

[00:02:13] Sure, sure.

[00:02:14] And then we'll read chapter one.

[00:02:16] Alright, sounds good.

[00:02:17] So what's the intro?

[00:02:19] Or did you want to do that in the main section?

[00:02:20] In the main section.

[00:02:21] Oh, in the main section.

[00:02:22] Alright.

[00:02:23] So, you know, we're gonna pause here and then we're gonna go to our main section.

[00:02:27] Yeah.

[00:02:27] Alright, let's do this.

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[00:04:13] Okay, so we are starting the book of Lamentations.

[00:04:17] Okay, let's talk about it a little bit.

[00:04:19] Let's do that before we hop into the chapter.

[00:04:21] Okay.

[00:04:22] So the book of Lamentations, it's only five chapters.

[00:04:25] Oh man, we're going to finish another book quickly.

[00:04:27] We are.

[00:04:28] And that's exciting.

[00:04:29] That's exciting.

[00:04:30] Yeah.

[00:04:31] This is totally off topic, but I am a huge fan of Goodreads and listening to audio books.

[00:04:41] Right?

[00:04:42] How can we incorporate Goodreads and audio books into Lamentations?

[00:04:45] Here we go.

[00:04:46] All right.

[00:04:47] Yes.

[00:04:48] Ready?

[00:04:49] Okay.

[00:04:50] Yeah.

[00:04:51] Okay.

[00:04:52] So every year Goodreads allows you to set a challenge for how many books you think

[00:04:54] you'll read or would like to read over the course of the year.

[00:04:57] Question.

[00:04:58] Do you get to count the books of the Bible?

[00:05:00] I mean, you could count the Bible as one.

[00:05:03] I think you'd really be pressing it to count it as...

[00:05:06] I mean, you know, I'm just trying to think of a way to pad your numbers here.

[00:05:08] That's all.

[00:05:09] Okay.

[00:05:10] I have not actually been including the Bible and now I'm like thinking back and I'm

[00:05:15] kind of curious and I'm like, wait, but maybe I should be counting each book.

[00:05:19] I don't know.

[00:05:20] That's not what I was getting at though.

[00:05:21] Sorry.

[00:05:22] Sorry.

[00:05:23] So what I was getting at how this is related is that I start the beginning of the year

[00:05:28] with looking at how many hours each book on my challenge list is.

[00:05:33] How long is each book?

[00:05:35] And I start the year with the shortest ones so that by summer, I've pretty much, if not

[00:05:42] halfway, sometimes fully reached my challenge number.

[00:05:49] And so every time I have one that's like under six hours long, I'm really excited

[00:05:53] about it because I get to like quote unquote, pad my numbers.

[00:05:58] Which is cool because let me tell you this is only five chapters.

[00:06:01] It's nothing, but we get credit for it.

[00:06:04] You know what I mean?

[00:06:05] So that's how I tied those two together.

[00:06:10] Sometimes when there's nothing to it and it's short, it just makes all the

[00:06:14] difference.

[00:06:15] Just so you guys know, Wife is a super user of Goodreads, like super fucking

[00:06:20] user.

[00:06:21] When you say super user of Goodreads, I think what you mean is a super

[00:06:24] user of the Libby app.

[00:06:26] Okay.

[00:06:28] I used to use the Overdrive app, but the Overdrive app is going away.

[00:06:33] And that's where I listen to my audio books, which is online library.

[00:06:37] Okay.

[00:06:38] So don't you leave reviews on Goodreads a lot?

[00:06:41] I don't leave reviews a lot.

[00:06:43] I have started writing reviews.

[00:06:46] I always mark what I read when I started, when I finished and what I

[00:06:50] read it.

[00:06:51] Got it.

[00:06:52] So I don't always write reviews.

[00:06:54] I'm trying to start doing that more now because I'm trying to get more

[00:06:58] books off of NetGalley, which are ARCs, advanced reader copies.

[00:07:04] Wow.

[00:07:05] This is all Greek to me.

[00:07:06] I know.

[00:07:07] It's, it's, I love the book thing.

[00:07:09] Yeah.

[00:07:10] Okay.

[00:07:11] Just that, that's what that was.

[00:07:12] Right.

[00:07:13] Okay.

[00:07:14] So let's get back to the Bible.

[00:07:15] Yeah.

[00:07:16] So anyway.

[00:07:17] Okay.

[00:07:18] So Lamentations.

[00:07:19] It's a collection of poetic laments for the destruction of

[00:07:22] Jerusalem in 586 BCE.

[00:07:24] Huh.

[00:07:25] So just what we got done reading basically.

[00:07:27] Yeah.

[00:07:28] Only these are the poesy of it.

[00:07:29] Exactly.

[00:07:30] Exactly.

[00:07:31] And, and the whole time like it's supposed to be Jeremiah like

[00:07:36] weeping.

[00:07:37] Oh, so that's where we get the weeping prophet.

[00:07:39] We were done but then the Bible was like, haha.

[00:07:42] Yeah.

[00:07:43] Psych.

[00:07:44] Yeah.

[00:07:45] For as far back as tradition reaches, Lamentations has been

[00:07:49] read on Tisha Ba'av.

[00:07:51] Remember that, that not celebration, commemoration, when you,

[00:07:59] observation.

[00:08:00] Yeah.

[00:08:01] Observation.

[00:08:02] Sure.

[00:08:03] I couldn't think of the word.

[00:08:04] Okay.

[00:08:05] Every year that's the day that they memorialized the fact

[00:08:08] that they were, they went into exile and Jerusalem was sacked

[00:08:14] and smashed.

[00:08:15] Got it.

[00:08:16] And then later on their second temple got smashed.

[00:08:18] Apparently we're not there yet.

[00:08:20] Sure.

[00:08:21] No, I just, I didn't, I didn't remember either but I was just,

[00:08:23] I was watching you try to come up with the words and I'm like,

[00:08:26] What is it?

[00:08:27] I know you were like watching me and I was like, my God, we

[00:08:30] just talked about this.

[00:08:31] I understand that I can't think of the word because I often

[00:08:35] can't think of a word.

[00:08:37] You were really hoping I had the answer.

[00:08:39] I assumed you had the answer because you always know the

[00:08:42] word I'm trying to say.

[00:08:43] But instead of looking at me like yes or I'm withholding

[00:08:48] because I like this new struggle.

[00:08:50] No, instead you were looking at me like, you fool, what are you

[00:08:53] doing?

[00:08:54] You're ruining our podcast.

[00:08:57] Okay.

[00:08:58] So anyway, they read these lamentations every year during

[00:09:04] this observation because it memorializes their trauma, their

[00:09:09] cultural trauma and their historical for what was.

[00:09:15] Got it.

[00:09:16] Okay.

[00:09:17] Not unreasonable to assume that that was actually its intended

[00:09:21] purpose when they wrote it.

[00:09:23] Okay.

[00:09:24] So the way it's written kind of lens toward reading it out

[00:09:28] loud like that.

[00:09:29] Memorializing it.

[00:09:30] Yes, yes.

[00:09:31] The prophet Jeremiah is its traditional author.

[00:09:34] Traditional author.

[00:09:35] That is as far as I got because we're going to do a wrap

[00:09:39] up afterwards and I'll have more information then.

[00:09:41] Got it.

[00:09:42] I have to be really careful with these intros that I don't

[00:09:44] learn too much before we dive in.

[00:09:47] Right.

[00:09:48] So I don't want to give myself spoilers.

[00:09:49] So I'm sure if they're saying up front that he's the

[00:09:53] traditional author, that that means he wasn't.

[00:09:56] So I'm sure it was the Deuteronomy.

[00:09:57] They wouldn't specify otherwise.

[00:09:58] Right.

[00:09:59] Now the original text was written in Hebrew.

[00:10:03] Okay?

[00:10:04] Okay.

[00:10:05] However, in the Septuagint, the following words are

[00:10:07] found as part of the text and there's multiple

[00:10:10] different translations of the Septuagint which is the

[00:10:15] Greek one.

[00:10:16] But even of that there is more than one Septuagint

[00:10:20] translation like there's the Alexandrian and then

[00:10:23] there's I forget what the other one is.

[00:10:25] Got it.

[00:10:26] But at any rate in all of the Greek copies, these

[00:10:30] words are found as part of the text but they're

[00:10:32] not in the Hebrew.

[00:10:35] Got it.

[00:10:36] Okay?

[00:10:37] And it came to pass after Israel had been carried

[00:10:39] away captive and Jerusalem was become desolate

[00:10:43] that Jeremiah sat weeping and he lamented with this

[00:10:47] lamentation over Jerusalem and he said, and then the

[00:10:52] book begins.

[00:10:53] And this goes back to them calling him the weeping

[00:10:55] prophet too.

[00:10:56] Yes.

[00:10:57] Exactly.

[00:10:58] Exactly.

[00:10:59] So the first four of the five poems are written as

[00:11:03] across it.

[00:11:05] Do you remember what those are?

[00:11:06] Not off the top of my head.

[00:11:07] Okay.

[00:11:08] So we've run into, this is the fifth.

[00:11:09] I remember the term but I don't remember what it

[00:11:11] is.

[00:11:12] I'll explain it again.

[00:11:13] This is the fifth of several poem, poemy writings

[00:11:20] that had acrostics in them and what they are is the

[00:11:25] beginning letter of each line starts with the

[00:11:29] next letter of the alphabet.

[00:11:31] Got it.

[00:11:32] Yeah.

[00:11:33] Okay.

[00:11:34] It took strategy to make the the poetry if you

[00:11:37] will.

[00:11:38] Sure.

[00:11:39] Okay.

[00:11:40] Yeah.

[00:11:41] So the first two lines and sections of those songs.

[00:11:44] Some people claim that that's to show the beginning

[00:11:48] and the end and that they lamented the full way

[00:11:51] through the entire alphabet, blah, blah, blah,

[00:11:53] blah, but I'm like no because they did it in

[00:11:56] other places too and it was a literary device

[00:11:59] that they used back then.

[00:12:00] Right.

[00:12:01] They put a lot of, I mean there's a lot of

[00:12:02] sections that we've covered where they use this

[00:12:05] tool, this type of prose.

[00:12:08] This was the fifth one of that.

[00:12:10] Yeah.

[00:12:11] So I mean they must lend a lot of like, they

[00:12:15] like their alphabet, they like their language,

[00:12:18] they like their...

[00:12:19] They like their book ends.

[00:12:20] Right.

[00:12:21] You know what I mean?

[00:12:22] They like their beginning and end and everything

[00:12:23] in the middle.

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:25] They like things tied up neat and tidy.

[00:12:26] Sure.

[00:12:27] And that's, you know, that's the same way

[00:12:29] where they try to compare Jeremiah and his

[00:12:32] 40 years with Moses' 40 years and how it

[00:12:36] started and ended at the same place with

[00:12:39] the same number.

[00:12:40] They very much like their book ends.

[00:12:42] Right.

[00:12:43] So this just lends to that.

[00:12:45] Yeah, yeah.

[00:12:46] All right, so we are going to start lamentations.

[00:12:48] Are you ready?

[00:12:49] I am ready.

[00:12:50] All right, chapter one.

[00:12:52] How deserted lies the city once so full of

[00:12:55] people.

[00:12:57] How like a widow is she who once was great

[00:13:00] among the nations.

[00:13:02] She who was queen among the provinces has now

[00:13:05] become a slave.

[00:13:07] Bitterly she weeps at night.

[00:13:10] Tears are on her cheeks.

[00:13:12] Among all her lovers there is no one to comfort

[00:13:15] her.

[00:13:16] All her friends have betrayed her.

[00:13:18] They have become her enemies.

[00:13:20] And this is of course the personification

[00:13:22] of the city itself.

[00:13:23] Right, no.

[00:13:24] And this is well written.

[00:13:25] It's pretty neat.

[00:13:26] Yeah, I actually like it.

[00:13:29] After affliction and harsh labor,

[00:13:31] Judah has gone into exile.

[00:13:34] She dwells among the nations.

[00:13:36] She finds no resting place.

[00:13:39] All who pursue her have overtaken her in the

[00:13:42] midst of her distress.

[00:13:44] The roads to Zion mourn.

[00:13:47] For no one comes to her appointed festivals.

[00:13:50] All her gateways are desolate.

[00:13:52] Her priests groan.

[00:13:54] Her young women grieve.

[00:13:56] And she is in bitter anguish.

[00:13:58] Wow.

[00:13:59] Yeah, this is pretty good stuff.

[00:14:00] I mean it's very...

[00:14:01] It is.

[00:14:02] I approve of this actually.

[00:14:03] It touches my heart actually.

[00:14:04] Right.

[00:14:05] It's very meaningful and very...

[00:14:07] I could see myself sitting with people at one of these

[00:14:12] observation memorializing and having this read aloud.

[00:14:14] And I could see myself crying.

[00:14:16] Yeah, it's very somber and very...

[00:14:19] It holds a lot of meaning.

[00:14:20] Like it's very nice.

[00:14:22] Yeah.

[00:14:23] When I say I like it, I don't mean that I like the

[00:14:26] tragedy that caused it.

[00:14:27] No, no, of course not.

[00:14:28] But this is beautiful.

[00:14:29] But the poesy in it is very strong.

[00:14:32] And I appreciate it.

[00:14:34] Her foes have become her masters.

[00:14:37] Her enemies are at ease.

[00:14:39] The Lord has brought her grief because of her many sins.

[00:14:43] Her children have gone into exile, captive before the foe.

[00:14:48] All the splendor has departed from the daughter Zion.

[00:14:52] Her princes are like deer that find no pasture.

[00:14:56] In weakness they have fled before the pursuer.

[00:14:59] In the days of her affliction and wandering, Jerusalem remembers all the

[00:15:04] treasures that were hers in days of old.

[00:15:07] When her people fell into enemy hands, there was no one to help her.

[00:15:12] Her enemies looked at her and laughed at her destruction.

[00:15:17] Jerusalem has sinned greatly and so has become unclean.

[00:15:21] Now explain a little bit what that means later.

[00:15:24] All who honored her despise her for they have all seen her naked.

[00:15:29] She herself groans and turns away.

[00:15:32] Her filthiness clung to her skirts.

[00:15:35] She did not consider her future.

[00:15:37] Her fall was astounding.

[00:15:40] There was none to comfort her.

[00:15:42] It's funny even sorry I have to interrupt here just for a second but even in this somber

[00:15:46] poem that they're reading right there still saying how shitty these people are.

[00:15:52] Like it started off really strong and really good but like now it's like and you guys

[00:15:58] still this is why it happened you guys sucked.

[00:16:00] Yeah and that's what these lamentations are.

[00:16:03] They're like sad for what happened but they're also blaming themselves.

[00:16:08] So it's not just him pointing the finger at the people.

[00:16:12] This is basically the people pointing the fingers at the people.

[00:16:17] So we're supposed to believe that he spoke for the people.

[00:16:21] Got it.

[00:16:22] Does that make sense?

[00:16:23] Yeah.

[00:16:24] Like he's not being accusatory.

[00:16:29] Whoever the author is.

[00:16:31] Yeah.

[00:16:32] Which I'm pretty sure was the Deuteronomus.

[00:16:34] Right.

[00:16:35] So they all together collectively agreed we ache for what we've done.

[00:16:41] Got it.

[00:16:42] Okay.

[00:16:43] So okay.

[00:16:44] Sorry.

[00:16:45] Captain before the foe, princes, she's yucky and they laughed.

[00:16:49] Okay Jerusalem has sinned greatly and so has become unclean.

[00:16:54] Oh I already read that.

[00:16:55] Okay sorry.

[00:16:56] The enemy.

[00:16:57] Oh wait no.

[00:16:58] Okay hold on.

[00:16:59] We're getting there.

[00:17:00] Well I'm sorry.

[00:17:01] No I interrupted you.

[00:17:02] You did.

[00:17:03] Her filthiness clung to her skirts.

[00:17:06] She did not consider her future.

[00:17:08] Her fall was astounding.

[00:17:10] There was none to comfort her.

[00:17:12] Look Lord on my affliction for the enemy has triumphed.

[00:17:17] That's in quotes her speaking.

[00:17:19] Yeah sure.

[00:17:20] The enemy laid hands on all her treasures.

[00:17:24] She saw pagan nations enter her sanctuary.

[00:17:28] Those you had forbidden to enter your assembly.

[00:17:32] All her people groan as they search for bread.

[00:17:35] They barter their treasures for food to keep themselves alive.

[00:17:39] Look Lord and consider for I am despised.

[00:17:43] Okay we're about halfway through but I just want to run back a minute just to point

[00:17:48] out some things.

[00:17:49] Okay.

[00:17:51] It starts out saying that she's basically like a widow and that has more than one connotation

[00:17:59] to it.

[00:18:00] Like we can see on the surface what that means is yeah I mean.

[00:18:04] Right but also God considered Jerusalem his bride at some point so it means that it's

[00:18:09] without God I would imagine also.

[00:18:11] Yes exactly.

[00:18:13] And also a widow she would have been living with her husband and his family right.

[00:18:20] Well when he when the husband died the husband's family usually despised the widow and kicked

[00:18:27] her out.

[00:18:28] Got it.

[00:18:29] Because she was just like another mouth to feed right.

[00:18:32] So there's that aspect of it too.

[00:18:36] That's the deeper one that she is despised even by those who should be loving her

[00:18:41] and caring for her.

[00:18:43] Got it.

[00:18:44] Then we go into the fact that they say that she's filthy and that her grossness sticks to

[00:18:54] her skirt or whatever.

[00:18:56] That's an allusion to menstrual blood.

[00:19:00] Got it.

[00:19:01] So she's you know in her most horrible and atrocious and embarrassing state she's

[00:19:10] nude you know just a mess.

[00:19:14] So that's what we're supposed to gather from this.

[00:19:17] And then also when it talks about how she had them coming inside her so to speak I know

[00:19:30] the way I said that like the nations entered her.

[00:19:34] Yeah no it sounded very sexual.

[00:19:35] And it is supposed to be like she was a whore she opened her legs to these

[00:19:40] other nations.

[00:19:41] And they just used her and then threw her away.

[00:19:45] So yes there's a lot it's actually very symbolic and very intelligently written like you don't

[00:19:53] have to look far for it.

[00:19:55] And once you know it's there you cannot unsee it.

[00:19:58] I almost commented on that but I wasn't sure 100% so I was reserving judgment on

[00:20:04] that.

[00:20:05] But nope that's exactly what it is.

[00:20:06] You would have had it right.

[00:20:08] All right let me find my place because I once again lost it lost it.

[00:20:13] Okay so yeah that's why she's sad because she's like I'm disgusting and I hate myself.

[00:20:19] Sure if I hate myself how could God not hate me.

[00:20:23] Right yeah.

[00:20:25] So now we're switching back to her speaking again.

[00:20:30] Okay all right.

[00:20:31] Her being the city.

[00:20:32] Sure just to put it out there again this is the personification of the city.

[00:20:38] Right.

[00:20:39] Okay is it nothing to you all you who pass by look around and see is any suffering like my

[00:20:46] suffering that was inflicted on me that the Lord brought on me in the day of his fierce

[00:20:52] anger from on high he sent fire sent it down into my bones he spread a net for my feet

[00:21:00] and turned me back he made me desolate faint all the day long my sins have been bound

[00:21:07] into a yoke by his hands they were woven together they have been hung on my neck and the Lord

[00:21:14] has sapped my strength he has given me into the hands of those I cannot withstand.

[00:21:21] So the slavery that they're enduring is their own fault due to their sense.

[00:21:27] Yes there's also that call back to remember early on when Jeremiah in one of the earlier

[00:21:33] chapters he wore a yoke.

[00:21:36] Right right.

[00:21:37] So now.

[00:21:38] Yeah you know they're kind of literally doing that so that was a call back to that.

[00:21:43] Got it.

[00:21:44] Okay the Lord has rejected all the warriors in my midst he has summoned an army against

[00:21:50] me to crush my young men in his wine press the Lord has trampled virgin daughter Judah

[00:21:58] this okay I think now we are back to Jeremiah but I could be wrong because it doesn't specifically

[00:22:04] say okay but the following line leads me to believe that this is Jeremiah speaking now.

[00:22:10] Okay.

[00:22:11] This is why I weep and my eyes overflow with tears no one is near to comfort me no one to

[00:22:18] restore my spirit no I guess it is still be this it is still the city because then

[00:22:22] the next line within the same quote is my children are destitute because the enemy

[00:22:28] has prevailed and of course he doesn't have children so it had to be the city.

[00:22:33] Zion stretches out her hands but there was no one to comfort her the Lord has decreed for

[00:22:39] Jacob that his neighbors become his foes Jerusalem has become an unclean thing among them and again

[00:22:47] those are menstrual rags right right the Lord is righteous yet I rebelled against his command

[00:22:54] listen all you peoples look on my suffering my young men and young women have gone into

[00:22:59] exile I called to my allies but they betrayed me my priests and my elders perished in the city

[00:23:07] while they searched for food to keep themselves alive see Lord how distressed I am I am in

[00:23:14] torment within and in my heart I am disturbed for I have been most rebellious outside the

[00:23:22] sword bereaves inside there is only death people have heard my groaning but there is no one

[00:23:29] to comfort me all my enemies have heard of my distress they rejoice at what you have done

[00:23:36] may you bring the day you have announced so they may become like me.

[00:23:41] So this is them asking for retribution on their enemies yeah of course essentially

[00:23:46] no good no good prayer without a little bit of vengeance for them for good measure

[00:23:50] let all their wickedness come before you deal with them as you have dealt with me because

[00:23:56] of all my sins my groans are many and my heart is faint the end. I uh I really liked that chapter

[00:24:05] yeah I mean in so far as chapters go in the Bible it was very beautiful it was well written

[00:24:12] um particularly the first third I think yeah for sure very very hard um like it did touch my

[00:24:19] heart and it encompasses a lot of what happened to them with regard to the Babylonian exile

[00:24:24] so I mean I can appreciate what that is in regard to that yes um the message is still the same

[00:24:31] message we've been getting throughout the Bible. Gods a dick he killed him he you know made them

[00:24:37] suffer they're going to be slaves and you know he's blaming them for him having disappeared on

[00:24:42] him for a bit right right so I mean it's the same exact message just just the phrasing makes the

[00:24:47] difference right well because in the previous chapters two we've been reading about the

[00:24:53] history and the dates and the names and you know what happened where and this truly is a lament

[00:25:01] this is from a broken people right right and that you can't help but feel the pity and the sorrow

[00:25:09] sure yeah no I I agree I mean it it's like if uh if a tragedy happened in the United States right

[00:25:15] and somebody wrote a really heartfelt song about it after the fact right yes and we all kind of

[00:25:19] rallied behind that song this is kind of how that feels right right it's a very sentimental

[00:25:26] value with regard to what this is so that people can have the feels you know like get behind it and

[00:25:33] be like yeah we miss our Jerusalem and we love it and we want to get back and this is what should

[00:25:38] happen here's the same message but we're going to take the time to make this very beautiful

[00:25:41] so that everybody can appreciate it and appreciate what we had and lost and what we need to get

[00:25:45] back right exactly exactly it's not a rallying cry it is a gathering cry though sure like let us gather

[00:25:57] together and mourn as a community yeah which you've got to mourn before you can move to anger right

[00:26:05] and you know get back on wild they moved to anger pretty quickly there at the you know right

[00:26:09] yes I I see what you're saying but I just meant like it's saying let's mourn together let's you

[00:26:17] know get our feet under us and figure out where we go from here yeah and and then you know get the

[00:26:22] guns and kill everybody sure I feel like I'm going to be doing a lot less talking than these

[00:26:26] five chapters because it's just I want to hear what the right words say yeah and I I try to wait for

[00:26:34] um correct stopping point sure before I interjected what little notes there were one occasionally I

[00:26:40] want to stop just because I have an idea but I mean it's it's very beautifully written yes so I will

[00:26:45] give it that I I want everybody listening to hear us say that we are appreciating a piece of

[00:26:51] the Bible because we have been accused of like you know coming in with an agenda and not being

[00:26:58] able to understand any or appreciate any of the beauty of it and so no this is we have printed

[00:27:05] out parts that we have really liked yeah and this was a good chapter yeah I I agree all right well

[00:27:13] that's all there is all right so that was Lamentations chapter one sure as fuck was and

[00:27:18] we will be back tomorrow with Lamentations chapter two all right we'll see you then bye

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