Micah Chapter 1: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:01:33] Wife!

[00:01:34] Do you even have a clue what the fuck we're doing tonight?

[00:01:38] Uh, finally not being too sick to do a podcast.

[00:01:41] Uh, and, and...

[00:01:43] Speak for yourself, but...

[00:01:44] Starting a new book.

[00:01:46] Yeah, we are starting a new book.

[00:01:47] Yes.

[00:01:48] Yes.

[00:01:48] Yes.

[00:01:48] Um, so what are we, uh, what are we jumping into now?

[00:01:52] We're jumping into a book that literally until like maybe three weeks ago, maybe...

[00:01:57] Okay, I'll give you a month. I'll be generous.

[00:01:59] I never even heard of this.

[00:02:01] Like, I didn't even know it was a book.

[00:02:02] Cause we're in the minor, minor prophets that...

[00:02:05] The minor, minor.

[00:02:06] Yeah.

[00:02:07] The way minor leagues.

[00:02:09] Like, who the fuck's heard of these people?

[00:02:10] This guy's name is Micah.

[00:02:11] Micah.

[00:02:12] Micah.

[00:02:12] Yeah.

[00:02:13] Like, I didn't know that was a guy in the Bible.

[00:02:16] I did.

[00:02:18] You hear people talk about people's names and like, oh, that's from the Bible.

[00:02:21] And I've heard people say that before.

[00:02:22] I believe you.

[00:02:23] So...

[00:02:23] I'm just, I'm here to tell you, I don't know shit about shit.

[00:02:26] And there's only seven chapters of this guy.

[00:02:29] Yeah.

[00:02:29] So, I don't even feel bad.

[00:02:31] No?

[00:02:32] No.

[00:02:32] I mean, there was less chapters of...

[00:02:34] Jonah.

[00:02:35] Jonah.

[00:02:35] There was only four of him, but...

[00:02:36] But he was a bigger deal.

[00:02:37] He got swallowed by a goddamn whale.

[00:02:40] He did.

[00:02:40] Or a big fish, depending who you ask.

[00:02:42] Right.

[00:02:42] Right.

[00:02:42] So, I mean, I don't think anything happens to this guy.

[00:02:46] I don't know.

[00:02:46] Nothing, huh?

[00:02:47] I mean, I have a little bit of an intro, but I think it's mostly like, more of the same.

[00:02:52] Got it.

[00:02:54] So...

[00:02:54] Micah.

[00:02:55] Seven chapters.

[00:02:56] Let's do it.

[00:02:57] All right.

[00:02:58] Let's do it.

[00:02:58] Okie dokie.

[00:03:05] All right.

[00:03:05] So, we're going to talk a little bit about Micah.

[00:03:07] But listen, before I say any of that shit...

[00:03:10] Yeah.

[00:03:10] I probably should tell you straight off, my voice is going to go from bad to super bad

[00:03:17] to probably non-existent worst.

[00:03:20] Ok.

[00:03:21] So, we might not hear the words that are coming out of your mouth by the time we get done

[00:03:25] with this podcast.

[00:03:26] Exactly.

[00:03:26] Got it.

[00:03:27] I'm just...

[00:03:27] I apologize.

[00:03:29] Laryngitis hit me about a week ago and then I felt fine and then...

[00:03:34] And then you didn't.

[00:03:35] Except then I started to get a cough and I was like, wait, are you supposed to get a

[00:03:39] cough and then lose your voice?

[00:03:40] But that's not what happened to me.

[00:03:42] Right.

[00:03:43] And...

[00:03:43] I think you got pummeled by like multiple different things at multiple different times.

[00:03:47] Because then it was like, it was like I lost my voice and then like three days later

[00:03:51] I got a cough and then like three days later I had fever.

[00:03:54] Right.

[00:03:54] And I'm like, what the fuck?

[00:03:56] This is all in the wrong order.

[00:03:58] Yeah.

[00:03:58] Y'all are doing me wrong.

[00:04:00] Right.

[00:04:00] So, I was sick.

[00:04:02] I'm on the upswing now.

[00:04:04] I feel fine but my voice is still like, the hell you said.

[00:04:09] So, I'm just letting that be out there.

[00:04:12] Yeah.

[00:04:12] Apologies.

[00:04:13] Okay.

[00:04:14] Here's the other thing.

[00:04:15] I still am not impressed with Micah because...

[00:04:18] I give wife shit all the time because wife always, always undersells every single

[00:04:25] podcast we ever start.

[00:04:27] Like, every time we get done with the intro he's like, God, could you sound less excited?

[00:04:31] And I'm like, what?

[00:04:32] I'm just being honest.

[00:04:34] I'm just being authentic.

[00:04:35] Like, this is my impression.

[00:04:37] I'm telling...

[00:04:38] This is what I bring to the table.

[00:04:39] Is it the impression that you get?

[00:04:40] This is the impression that I get.

[00:04:41] Got it.

[00:04:42] Yeah.

[00:04:42] It's the impression that I...

[00:04:43] Yeah.

[00:04:44] Okay.

[00:04:45] I was just making sure that you knew that I knew.

[00:04:47] Oh, yeah.

[00:04:47] Yeah.

[00:04:48] Okay.

[00:04:48] I...

[00:04:48] Yeah.

[00:04:49] It's just...

[00:04:49] I don't know how else to be.

[00:04:51] Like, this is how I am.

[00:04:52] I did a little bit of research on this guy and now I'm going to tell you my thoughts on

[00:04:57] it.

[00:04:57] Sure.

[00:04:57] And that's what this is, right?

[00:04:58] No, I got it.

[00:04:59] I got it.

[00:04:59] I got it.

[00:05:00] But you're...

[00:05:01] Sometimes you're like my co-host and other times you're like the producer.

[00:05:06] Right.

[00:05:06] And other times you're like the marketeer.

[00:05:09] Yeah.

[00:05:09] And so you're like...

[00:05:10] And you make my job...

[00:05:11] You make a lot of my jobs difficult.

[00:05:13] Yeah.

[00:05:13] And so...

[00:05:15] When you're my co-host, you're like, yeah, authenticity.

[00:05:17] Yeah, totally.

[00:05:18] Totally.

[00:05:18] But then like, as soon as you put on any of those other hats, which you never take off,

[00:05:23] you're like, bitch, can't you just?

[00:05:25] And I'm like, no, no, I can't.

[00:05:29] I'm sorry.

[00:05:29] I always forget that I'm supposed to...

[00:05:31] But you know what?

[00:05:31] Here's the thing.

[00:05:32] We're going to make it fun.

[00:05:33] I mean, yeah.

[00:05:34] We're going to have fun.

[00:05:35] That goes without saying.

[00:05:36] We're going to do this the best Micah fucking way we can.

[00:05:39] Look, if you've been with us from the beginning or even partway through or even like

[00:05:43] just the last couple books, you know that my impression of the guy is part of the story.

[00:05:50] You know?

[00:05:51] The...

[00:05:51] Oh, the impression of the person we're talking about?

[00:05:54] Yeah.

[00:05:54] Oh, okay.

[00:05:54] Yeah.

[00:05:55] Like, my impression of...

[00:05:56] I thought you meant God or, you know, I didn't know what you were talking about.

[00:05:58] The guy, the character, whoever we're talking about, my impression is part of the thing.

[00:06:03] Sure.

[00:06:03] You know?

[00:06:04] Yeah.

[00:06:04] And my lack of ability to upsell, you know, part of it.

[00:06:11] What is your impression of Micah?

[00:06:12] Okay.

[00:06:13] What is Micah all about?

[00:06:14] Well, that's what I'm saying.

[00:06:15] Like, I didn't know anything about this guy.

[00:06:16] Yeah.

[00:06:16] So, I'm going to intro a little bit.

[00:06:19] Um, I'm not going to go too deep because we'll be covering them again very shortly

[00:06:23] when we do the wrap up because there's only seven chapters.

[00:06:26] Okay?

[00:06:27] Yep.

[00:06:27] So, all right.

[00:06:28] This book records the sayings of Micah.

[00:06:30] M-I-C-H.

[00:06:33] That's it.

[00:06:34] That is all there is.

[00:06:35] Whose Hebrew name is Mikayahu.

[00:06:38] Mikayahu.

[00:06:39] Mikayahu.

[00:06:41] Mikayahu.

[00:06:42] Meaning, who is like Yahweh.

[00:06:46] Okay.

[00:06:46] That's what it means?

[00:06:47] Yeah.

[00:06:48] Okay.

[00:06:48] Who's like Yahweh.

[00:06:49] I'm sorry.

[00:06:50] You got lost in the silliness that was going on there.

[00:06:53] That was Disney.

[00:06:54] I was seeing Micah Mouse.

[00:06:56] Got it.

[00:06:57] Micah Mouse.

[00:06:57] Yeah.

[00:06:58] Or Mikayahu.

[00:07:00] Because he's like Yahweh.

[00:07:01] Got it.

[00:07:02] Okay?

[00:07:02] Yeah.

[00:07:02] Micah was an 8th century BCE prophet from the village of Morshef.

[00:07:08] Seems like a lot of these minor prophets were from that same-ish time period.

[00:07:13] Like those, like, you know, the 7 to 800 BCE time frames.

[00:07:18] Yeah, the earlier.

[00:07:18] And I'm like, no, we already did all that.

[00:07:20] Right.

[00:07:21] It's weird because we kind of like, in the Old Testament, you kind of end up going backwards

[00:07:24] at the end.

[00:07:25] Mm-hmm.

[00:07:26] I don't care for it.

[00:07:28] I don't either.

[00:07:29] It's a weird, weird transition.

[00:07:32] It's a weird way to read.

[00:07:34] We're re- I feel like- I feel like we're reading it wrong and we weren't given instructions

[00:07:38] because the Bible doesn't come with instructions.

[00:07:41] And so you're just like reading it straight through because that's how- that's how books

[00:07:45] work?

[00:07:45] Well, there's plenty of things out there that tell you how to read the Bible.

[00:07:48] Okay, but you're supposed to just be able to pick up a book, right?

[00:07:51] That's the word of fucking God.

[00:07:52] Right.

[00:07:53] And it either speaks to you and says, read me in this particular order, which is not the

[00:07:59] table of contents.

[00:08:02] Or you read it the order that it is in, which is the table of contents.

[00:08:07] And it's the word of God.

[00:08:10] So it like moves you to understand and your brain just like automatically shifts stuff around

[00:08:15] like fucking Tetris.

[00:08:16] I think some people use it like a Ouija board.

[00:08:18] They just open up to a page and they're like that.

[00:08:20] That's what I want to read today.

[00:08:21] That's what I'm reading today.

[00:08:22] Right.

[00:08:22] Yeah, but I mean we read it like a book, you know, which it's a book.

[00:08:26] So yeah, that's how you read books.

[00:08:28] That's how you read.

[00:08:29] Unless you are reading, I think it's Japanese books.

[00:08:34] I don't know.

[00:08:34] Some Asian form of book.

[00:08:37] They read books in the opposite direction.

[00:08:39] They do.

[00:08:40] I don't know if you knew that.

[00:08:41] Yes, I did.

[00:08:43] I've read some manga and boy, it took me a minute to figure that out.

[00:08:47] I'm pretty sure it's Japanese.

[00:08:47] Is it Japanese?

[00:08:48] And that's what I said.

[00:08:50] Yeah.

[00:08:51] Go me.

[00:08:52] I just, I didn't want to like, I thought it was Japanese, but then I didn't want to

[00:08:55] be like, it's Japanese and then be like, oh fuck.

[00:08:58] What if it's other things too?

[00:09:00] Like it might be other things too.

[00:09:01] I don't know the answer to that one.

[00:09:03] So I just, I don't know.

[00:09:04] I don't know.

[00:09:05] I just, I know a lot of the manga comes from Japan and that I've read, not that I've

[00:09:12] read a lot.

[00:09:13] So anyway, so Micah was from that same fucking time period.

[00:09:18] A village of Morsheth, which is a town in Southern Judah.

[00:09:22] And he lived during the reigns of Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah around 750 to 700 BCE.

[00:09:30] Okay.

[00:09:31] Yeah.

[00:09:31] So this would have been during the period when after a long period of peace, Israel, Judah,

[00:09:38] and the other nations of the region came under increasing pressure from the aggressive and

[00:09:44] rapidly expanding Assyrian empire.

[00:09:48] Okay.

[00:09:49] Okay.

[00:09:49] Yep.

[00:09:49] I mean, because we're in the same thing we've been dealing with.

[00:09:51] Yeah.

[00:09:52] Right.

[00:09:52] I'm just telling you, you know, make sure you know where we're at.

[00:09:55] Yep.

[00:09:56] Assyria still again.

[00:09:57] Right.

[00:09:58] Okay.

[00:09:58] In the book, Micah reproaches unjust leaders and defends the rights of the poor against

[00:10:05] the rich and powerful.

[00:10:06] So I really did undersell this because he is pulling some serious Jesus like pre pre pre

[00:10:13] century and going, stop being bad leaders and oppressing the poor.

[00:10:19] You politician.

[00:10:21] All fuck faces.

[00:10:23] Right.

[00:10:23] And that's one thing I did like about the early, like the Exodus Bible and Leviticus Bible

[00:10:28] stuff where they, where they talked about the, you know, treating the poor equitably.

[00:10:33] And I thought that was a very good endeavor to seek out, you know, there, those early laws

[00:10:42] were about treating the poor equitably.

[00:10:46] Equitably.

[00:10:47] This guy is not just saying we should treat the poor equitably.

[00:10:52] He is actually yelling at the oppressor saying you fucking suck, you pieces of shit.

[00:10:59] Right.

[00:10:59] Right.

[00:10:59] So I didn't realize a lot of people in protests use the book of Micah.

[00:11:06] They use verses from the book of Micah when they are holding up their protest signs.

[00:11:11] They're like, stop being oppressive.

[00:11:13] You fucks.

[00:11:14] Right.

[00:11:15] You know, Micah chapter or whatever.

[00:11:17] Sure.

[00:11:17] Okay.

[00:11:18] Cause I'm sure it says that somewhere.

[00:11:20] Sure.

[00:11:21] Right.

[00:11:21] So, okay.

[00:11:22] So he's reproaching unjust leaders and defending the rights of the poor against the rich and

[00:11:27] powerful while looking forward to a world at peace centered on Zion under the leadership

[00:11:34] of a new Davidic monarch.

[00:11:36] Hmm.

[00:11:37] Yeah.

[00:11:38] Okay.

[00:11:38] That's the stuff that's like, oh, there's where we get our Jesus fix.

[00:11:42] Now we know why this is in here.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:44] Many scholars accept that only chapters one through three contain material from the late

[00:11:50] 8th century BCE prophet Micah himself.

[00:11:54] Okay.

[00:11:54] Micah actual.

[00:11:55] Yeah.

[00:11:56] If you will.

[00:11:56] Right.

[00:11:56] Micah prime.

[00:11:58] Sure.

[00:11:58] Okay.

[00:11:59] According to those scholars, the latest material comes from the post exilic period after the

[00:12:06] temple was built in 515 BCE.

[00:12:08] Okay.

[00:12:09] So that the early 5th century BCE seems to be the period when the book was actually completed.

[00:12:15] Got it.

[00:12:15] So that's like a 250 year period.

[00:12:19] It seems like.

[00:12:20] Yeah.

[00:12:21] That they were collecting.

[00:12:22] The period.

[00:12:23] It seems like there was a lot of things that were kind of finished.

[00:12:26] Yeah.

[00:12:26] At that point.

[00:12:27] Yeah.

[00:12:27] You know, they were, they were doing a lot of uncovering papers and stapling them together

[00:12:35] and finalizing stories.

[00:12:38] Right.

[00:12:38] Yeah.

[00:12:38] Figuring out what version they wanted to sell to the future and all that kind of stuff.

[00:12:43] Yeah.

[00:12:44] So the first stage was the collection and arrangement of some spoken sayings of the historical Micah,

[00:12:51] the dude.

[00:12:51] Okay.

[00:12:52] And again, that's the material in chapters one through three, in which the prophet attacks

[00:12:57] those who build estates through oppression and depicts the Assyrian invasion of Judah

[00:13:03] as Yahweh's punishment on the kingdom's corrupt rulers, including a prophecy that the temple

[00:13:10] will be destroyed.

[00:13:12] I, I, my only issue with that is that it does also affect the poor.

[00:13:17] Mm hmm.

[00:13:18] You know, like if, if God wants to punish the rulers.

[00:13:21] Yeah.

[00:13:22] It doesn't seem fair that the people that, you know, the Micah stated up for here.

[00:13:26] Yeah.

[00:13:27] Also are going to get punished.

[00:13:28] It's like, he's saying if you, president Trump, do not take care of the poor people in the

[00:13:40] poorest states of the United States, such as like all of the deepest red ones in the

[00:13:48] South, then God is going to smite you and all of those communities.

[00:13:54] Wait, what?

[00:13:55] Yeah.

[00:13:56] That, that does, that's not what?

[00:13:58] No.

[00:13:59] Yeah.

[00:13:59] That is not equity, sir.

[00:14:02] I don't think we understand languages.

[00:14:05] Right.

[00:14:05] Okay.

[00:14:06] So the prophecy was not fulfilled in Micah's time, but a hundred years later when Judah

[00:14:11] was facing a similar crisis with the Neo Babylonian empire, Micah's prophecies were reworked

[00:14:17] and expanded to reflect the new situation.

[00:14:22] Yeah.

[00:14:23] Still later after Jerusalem.

[00:14:25] Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[00:14:26] What?

[00:14:27] What?

[00:14:28] Reworked and expanded.

[00:14:29] What?

[00:14:29] His prop.

[00:14:30] Okay.

[00:14:30] That's how you do prophecies, isn't it?

[00:14:32] Yeah.

[00:14:32] Yeah.

[00:14:33] You just rework and expand them.

[00:14:35] Right.

[00:14:36] So, a fancy way of saying we, we just, we, uh, we fixed it.

[00:14:40] That's what the new Testament is.

[00:14:42] We made it fit.

[00:14:43] We got it.

[00:14:43] We got it to work.

[00:14:44] Hey look, guys, this works now.

[00:14:46] Isn't that what they did with the new Testament?

[00:14:48] I mean, it's what they did with it all.

[00:14:49] Right.

[00:14:49] You know, like this whole, we, it's, it's the same thing all the way through.

[00:14:53] Exactly.

[00:14:54] Nobody wrote any book, like all themselves.

[00:14:57] No.

[00:14:57] There was, there was influences from all kinds of different times and places and all kinds

[00:15:01] of stuff.

[00:15:01] And even if somebody did ever write one all the way through, we're not reading that version

[00:15:06] today because those priesty dudes that sat around that fucking nice and table or whatever.

[00:15:11] Um, they got together and decided what's in what's out.

[00:15:15] Sure.

[00:15:16] And changed everything up.

[00:15:17] So yeah, we don't know shit about shit.

[00:15:20] Right.

[00:15:21] Yeah.

[00:15:22] So, okay.

[00:15:23] Blah, blah, blah.

[00:15:24] They reworked and expanded his, um, his prophecies to reflect the new situation with the Babylonians.

[00:15:31] Mm-hmm.

[00:15:31] And then still later, after Jerusalem fell to the Neo-Babylonian empire, the book was revised

[00:15:38] and expanded further to reflect the circumstances of the late exilic and post-exilic community.

[00:15:47] It's like, they're just straight up admitting that it's basically a lie.

[00:15:52] Yeah.

[00:15:52] Like, it's not, this wasn't correct.

[00:15:56] Yeah.

[00:15:56] They fixed it twice.

[00:15:58] They changed it.

[00:15:59] Not once, but twice.

[00:16:00] They didn't fix it.

[00:16:01] They changed it.

[00:16:02] They changed it.

[00:16:03] Yeah.

[00:16:03] They edit, they, they did some heavy editorials.

[00:16:07] Right.

[00:16:07] Right.

[00:16:08] I, I don't know how that works in your time, but where I'm from, um, that's called lying.

[00:16:15] That's like, you know, we've got what everybody loves the Nostradamus predictions.

[00:16:20] Yeah.

[00:16:20] Yeah.

[00:16:20] That's like if somebody was like, Hey guys, we fixed it.

[00:16:24] We fixed them.

[00:16:25] The Nostradamus predictions are correct.

[00:16:26] We fixed them.

[00:16:27] Yeah.

[00:16:28] We changed.

[00:16:28] What?

[00:16:29] We changed the word shadow to mean airplane.

[00:16:33] What?

[00:16:33] That's not how that works.

[00:16:35] But it's fixed guys.

[00:16:36] But now it works.

[00:16:37] But if you just change the words, it's correct now.

[00:16:40] Yeah.

[00:16:41] Yeah.

[00:16:41] If you just change it to say what happened, then it says what happened.

[00:16:46] Yeah.

[00:16:46] This is what happened.

[00:16:47] And he totally said that this is what happened because we changed it.

[00:16:49] Yeah.

[00:16:50] Cause that's what he said.

[00:16:52] We made it say what happened.

[00:16:54] Right.

[00:16:54] So now it says it.

[00:16:56] No.

[00:16:56] And now it said, and it said, because it was said, but stop, stop.

[00:17:01] That's not like, that is so childish.

[00:17:04] Like why can people not understand that?

[00:17:06] That's so childish.

[00:17:07] This is my, this is like one of my biggest issues with the fucking Bible.

[00:17:11] Right.

[00:17:12] Like really?

[00:17:13] Yeah.

[00:17:14] You're, how is it the people that worship God don't know that this shit is just like changed.

[00:17:22] Right.

[00:17:23] Like all the, like it's just been, it's been changed throughout time and it's been reworked

[00:17:28] to fit different scenarios so that people can make it applicable for what they want it

[00:17:33] to be applicable to.

[00:17:34] Because the stuff that I just read to you, that was all stuff that came from research.

[00:17:40] Sure.

[00:17:41] Not the Bible.

[00:17:42] Right.

[00:17:43] Everything that we just read, I got from research.

[00:17:46] It's nothing that you're going to find in the Bible and Christians only read the Bible

[00:17:53] and at that they only read a assigned homework.

[00:17:58] No, I get it.

[00:17:59] I, I mean, I know why people don't know these things, but to have something this important

[00:18:06] be such a large part of your life and not care where it came from or what the, what the,

[00:18:12] the common consensuses are on things.

[00:18:14] It just, it baffles me.

[00:18:16] Well, it, yeah.

[00:18:17] Toward that.

[00:18:18] It baffles me that you tell me this is the word of God and how important it is and not

[00:18:25] to blaspheme it or what the fuck ever.

[00:18:27] Right.

[00:18:27] But you haven't even read it.

[00:18:30] You haven't read it.

[00:18:31] And moreover, you don't know anything about it.

[00:18:33] Really?

[00:18:34] Yeah.

[00:18:34] Not, not in any real intellectual.

[00:18:37] Why am I, why am I taking this more seriously than you are?

[00:18:40] You know, why am I?

[00:18:41] I pray.

[00:18:42] Yeah.

[00:18:42] Like, why am I putting more time and effort into this than you are?

[00:18:45] That doesn't make any fucking sense.

[00:18:47] This is supposed to be the most important thing in your life.

[00:18:50] Yeah.

[00:18:50] And you don't really care enough.

[00:18:53] You're still going to eat the fucking donut and repent later, I guess.

[00:18:57] Yeah.

[00:18:57] You know?

[00:18:58] Right.

[00:18:58] Or whatever.

[00:18:59] Yeah.

[00:18:59] Yeah.

[00:18:59] All right.

[00:19:00] So let's start Micah chapter one.

[00:19:02] Okay.

[00:19:02] Okay.

[00:19:03] Okay.

[00:19:03] The word of the Lord that came to Micah of Morsheth during the reigns of Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.

[00:19:13] Okay.

[00:19:13] The vision He saw concerning Samaria and Jerusalem.

[00:19:17] So that is what we are calling verse one, that in other texts would be referred to as like the super text.

[00:19:27] Yeah.

[00:19:27] Like an intro.

[00:19:28] Okay.

[00:19:29] To explain what the chapter is.

[00:19:30] Got it.

[00:19:30] So now we're entering chapter proper.

[00:19:33] Okay.

[00:19:34] Hear you peoples, all of you, listen, earth and all who live in it.

[00:19:40] Listen, you fucking earth.

[00:19:43] That the sovereign Lord may bear witness against you, the Lord from His holy temple.

[00:19:48] Look, the Lord is coming from His dwelling place.

[00:19:52] He comes down and treads on the heights of the earth.

[00:19:55] I hate it when he does that.

[00:19:57] Right.

[00:19:58] But, you know, depending on what part of the Bible you're reading, the dwelling place would

[00:20:01] have been like the ark or, you know, like there's a, the tabernacle, you know, or are

[00:20:08] they talking like, is this like, I, I question whether this was edited, right?

[00:20:12] Right.

[00:20:12] Because like the idea of him living in the sky wasn't really an early Bible thing.

[00:20:18] Right.

[00:20:18] It was a later Bible thing.

[00:20:19] Right.

[00:20:20] He, I mean, this says he's coming from his dwelling place.

[00:20:23] He comes down and treads on the heights of the earth.

[00:20:25] Which makes me think they're talking about God in the sky.

[00:20:28] Or the heights of the mountains, you know, the high places.

[00:20:33] I guess.

[00:20:34] Maybe.

[00:20:34] I don't know.

[00:20:35] Yeah.

[00:20:36] The mountains melt beneath him and the valley split apart like wax before the fire, like water

[00:20:43] rushing down a slope.

[00:20:45] All this is because of Jacob's transgression because of the sins of the people of Israel.

[00:20:51] What is Jacob's transgression?

[00:20:54] Is it not Samaria?

[00:20:56] What is Judah's high place?

[00:20:58] Is it not Jerusalem?

[00:21:01] Therefore, I will make Samaria a heap of rubble, a place for planting vineyards.

[00:21:08] I will pour her stones into the valley and lay bare her foundations.

[00:21:12] Because God loves killing people.

[00:21:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:21:15] That's the funnest.

[00:21:16] Yeah.

[00:21:17] All her idols will be broken to pieces.

[00:21:20] There's those idols again.

[00:21:21] They just never seem to go away.

[00:21:22] They never go away.

[00:21:23] Well, this is during the time.

[00:21:24] This is earlier, right?

[00:21:25] Yeah.

[00:21:25] Yeah.

[00:21:26] All her temple gifts will be burned with fire.

[00:21:30] I will destroy all her images.

[00:21:33] Since she gathered her gifts from the wages of prostitutes, as the wages of prostitutes,

[00:21:38] they will again be used.

[00:21:40] Boom.

[00:21:41] Okay.

[00:21:42] Because of this, I will weep and wail.

[00:21:46] Weep and wail.

[00:21:47] I don't know.

[00:21:48] That sounds like a song, doesn't it?

[00:21:50] Maybe.

[00:21:50] Yeah.

[00:21:51] Weep and wail.

[00:21:51] Right.

[00:21:52] I will go about barefoot and naked.

[00:21:55] I mean, it's barefoot and naked.

[00:21:59] Wait, this is, wait, God or Micah?

[00:22:01] Is this God talking?

[00:22:02] I don't know.

[00:22:02] I don't know.

[00:22:03] Is God gonna be running around with his ding-dongs sticking out?

[00:22:06] I honestly don't know.

[00:22:07] I've been having...

[00:22:08] I'm just imagining God frolicking through, you know, dead people and barren lands.

[00:22:14] Frolicking through dead people.

[00:22:15] I mean, that's what...

[00:22:16] See, and what I was imagining was barefoot and naked.

[00:22:19] So I was like, oh, thank God he's barefoot because I can't imagine somebody being naked

[00:22:24] except for shoes.

[00:22:25] That would be weird, right?

[00:22:26] Right?

[00:22:26] You know, the guy...

[00:22:27] It's like...

[00:22:28] It's okay.

[00:22:28] It's one thing if somebody's naked, right?

[00:22:30] That's weird.

[00:22:31] But if they're naked and wearing shoes...

[00:22:34] Right?

[00:22:34] That's a whole other thing.

[00:22:35] That is a whole other thing.

[00:22:37] I mean, it's like there's that whole understood joke about, you know, the guy who comes to bed

[00:22:43] naked except he's got socks on.

[00:22:45] Like, we all hate that guy.

[00:22:47] Don't be that guy.

[00:22:49] If you're gonna be naked, be naked.

[00:22:51] Take your goddamn socks off.

[00:22:52] Right.

[00:22:52] And certainly don't be naked but shoes.

[00:22:55] Yeah.

[00:22:55] No, that's weird.

[00:22:56] That's just dumb.

[00:22:57] Yeah.

[00:22:57] Okay?

[00:22:58] I will howl like a jackal and moan like an owl.

[00:23:01] Yeah, you will.

[00:23:03] For Samaria's plague is incurable.

[00:23:06] It has spread to Judah.

[00:23:07] It has reached the very gate of my people even to Jerusalem itself.

[00:23:13] I feel like this is...

[00:23:14] So that was God.

[00:23:15] Was it God?

[00:23:16] I think so.

[00:23:16] Okay.

[00:23:17] I think.

[00:23:17] I don't know.

[00:23:18] I'm confused.

[00:23:19] He's talking about...

[00:23:19] Well, I mean, I don't know.

[00:23:21] I guess it could be either.

[00:23:22] I didn't follow the context close enough there to...

[00:23:25] Yeah.

[00:23:25] So I apologize.

[00:23:26] But I'm hoping that it clarifies here soon.

[00:23:29] Me too.

[00:23:30] I might have to like go back and do a quick like reread in my head and then like clarify

[00:23:36] at the end.

[00:23:37] Yeah.

[00:23:38] Tell it not in Gath.

[00:23:39] Weep not at all.

[00:23:41] In Beth Ofra, roll in the dust.

[00:23:45] Roll in, roll in, roll in.

[00:23:47] Pass by naked and in shame.

[00:23:50] There's a lot of nakedness going on here.

[00:23:52] You who live in Shaffer.

[00:23:54] Okay.

[00:23:55] Those who live in Xanon will not come out.

[00:23:59] No?

[00:24:00] You know how they be.

[00:24:01] Yeah, they just like stay in their house.

[00:24:03] Right?

[00:24:03] Yeah.

[00:24:03] Beth Ezel is in mourning.

[00:24:06] It no longer protects you.

[00:24:08] Yeah.

[00:24:09] Those who live in Meroth writhe in pain, waiting for relief because disaster has come from the

[00:24:15] Lord even to the gate of Jerusalem.

[00:24:17] Or maybe this is Micah.

[00:24:18] Yeah.

[00:24:19] I think maybe it's Micah that likes to run around naked.

[00:24:21] I think Micah wants to swing his ding dong.

[00:24:23] Right?

[00:24:23] And he's like, and I take my shoes off.

[00:24:25] I'll have you know.

[00:24:26] Right.

[00:24:26] Yeah.

[00:24:27] Because he's referring to the Lord.

[00:24:29] Yeah.

[00:24:29] So we haven't changed.

[00:24:30] Although it's, the Bible is not perfectly clear about transitions on who's speaking either.

[00:24:34] Yeah.

[00:24:35] It's very, very hard to follow.

[00:24:37] Right.

[00:24:37] You who live in Lashish, harness fast horses to the chariot.

[00:24:43] You are where the sin of daughter Zion began.

[00:24:46] Oh.

[00:24:47] For the transgressions of Israel were found in you.

[00:24:51] Oh.

[00:24:52] Damn.

[00:24:52] Wow.

[00:24:52] No.

[00:24:53] Therefore, you will give parting gifts to Morsheth Gath.

[00:24:57] The town of Akzeb will prove deceptive to the kings of Israel.

[00:25:03] I will bring a conqueror against you who live in Mereshah.

[00:25:08] This is very specific.

[00:25:10] These are very geography driven.

[00:25:13] And very geography bound.

[00:25:14] Yeah.

[00:25:14] Like, it's quotes here.

[00:25:17] He's like, fuck this town, fuck that town.

[00:25:20] Like, let's say it's the Dayton area.

[00:25:23] Right?

[00:25:23] Right.

[00:25:23] He's like, fuck Miamisburg, fuck West Carrollton, fuck Moraine.

[00:25:29] He's like, I mean, I guess Centerville gets a pass, but not really.

[00:25:34] Fuck Springboro.

[00:25:37] I mean, just, you know, fuck Troy.

[00:25:39] And you know you're all fucked out there in Xenia.

[00:25:42] That's where it all started.

[00:25:43] I mean, Yellow Springs, where Dave Chappelle lives, fuck that place.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:50] He's like, I can't even with you.

[00:25:52] Right.

[00:25:53] He's just naming off various towns and I'm only not familiar with any of them.

[00:25:57] Because it's not really relevant.

[00:25:59] Like, and then we've talked about that too before.

[00:26:01] Like these, these things that they bring up with regard to geography and regard to names.

[00:26:06] Names that pass in the night.

[00:26:08] Right.

[00:26:08] Yeah.

[00:26:08] They're, they're very not meaningful.

[00:26:12] Right.

[00:26:13] Anybody reading it today.

[00:26:14] Right.

[00:26:15] And, and it just doesn't seem like if it was the word of God, it doesn't really feel like these things would need to be in there because they're not really.

[00:26:25] Right.

[00:26:25] It doesn't mean anything to most people today.

[00:26:28] Right.

[00:26:28] You know, like, I'm not saying that you should make the towns be more relevant and current.

[00:26:34] No, no.

[00:26:34] What I'm saying is, could you, I don't know, maybe just not have so many of them that we don't know or care about.

[00:26:40] It should be more story driven instead of like geography or person driven.

[00:26:44] Yeah.

[00:26:44] Like it's not, if it's the word of God, you should be conveying an idea and not geography.

[00:26:50] Yeah.

[00:26:51] No, I totally agree.

[00:26:52] I totally agree.

[00:26:53] I totally agree because like there's that whole thing.

[00:26:55] You can't kill an idea.

[00:26:57] Right.

[00:26:58] The idea is what lives on.

[00:27:00] Sure.

[00:27:00] The idea of Christianity is what lives on.

[00:27:02] We don't give a fuck about the name of the people and the towns.

[00:27:06] I'm not saying you can't never say a town.

[00:27:08] Well, sure.

[00:27:09] But in this context, we're just listing off names of towns.

[00:27:13] Yeah.

[00:27:13] It seems that it takes us out of the story.

[00:27:17] Right.

[00:27:17] Right.

[00:27:18] Like it takes you to, oh, we're just listing off fucking places in Israel.

[00:27:23] It's like, fuck this rock.

[00:27:25] Fuck that ditch.

[00:27:27] Fuck these trees.

[00:27:28] Right.

[00:27:28] Okay.

[00:27:29] I don't care.

[00:27:30] Sure.

[00:27:30] Right.

[00:27:31] You know, I guess.

[00:27:33] Sure.

[00:27:33] Like that restaurant closed a few years ago.

[00:27:37] It's so funny.

[00:27:39] Like I've lived in the Dayton area for 24 years now.

[00:27:44] Yeah.

[00:27:44] And since I have lived here, I have seen so many changes in stores and restaurants just

[00:27:53] in 24 years.

[00:27:55] Well, yeah.

[00:27:55] And just in the little area of Dayton that I've lived in, you know?

[00:28:00] Yeah.

[00:28:00] Like this little, I don't know, like 40 mile radius, maybe.

[00:28:06] Would you call it?

[00:28:07] Sure.

[00:28:08] And there have been some, I mean, where you and I met was an international fucking chain

[00:28:13] store that is no longer open.

[00:28:15] Right.

[00:28:16] And a big one at that.

[00:28:17] Yeah.

[00:28:17] You know?

[00:28:18] Yeah.

[00:28:19] And it just kills me like how much has changed in 24 years.

[00:28:24] And we're expected to give a shit about the fucking towns that.

[00:28:31] In 800 BCE.

[00:28:32] Yeah.

[00:28:33] Yeah.

[00:28:33] Like I can't even with this.

[00:28:35] Right.

[00:28:35] You know?

[00:28:36] Okay.

[00:28:36] There was a place called Woody's.

[00:28:39] Yeah.

[00:28:40] That was already closed when I got here.

[00:28:43] And the only reason that I even know a little bit about it was twofold.

[00:28:47] Twofold.

[00:28:48] Twofold.

[00:28:48] Yeah.

[00:28:49] Okay.

[00:28:49] One is that in the little town where I lived when I first moved here, it extended over

[00:28:58] the road.

[00:28:59] So like the store.

[00:29:00] It wasn't open.

[00:29:01] Right.

[00:29:02] No.

[00:29:02] The building itself though.

[00:29:04] The building.

[00:29:04] Yeah.

[00:29:05] Had like a store on one side.

[00:29:08] And then it, like if you went up to the second story, the second story had like this long

[00:29:15] tunnel or whatever building that extended over the road.

[00:29:19] No, that was the third floor.

[00:29:21] Whatever.

[00:29:22] The second story was a bookstore.

[00:29:23] Well, yeah.

[00:29:24] I can't know what store it was.

[00:29:26] Oh yeah.

[00:29:26] Cause you never.

[00:29:27] I never was on the inside.

[00:29:28] It was closed down before you moved here.

[00:29:30] It's so cute that you're like, no, you have it wrong.

[00:29:32] I can't believe you're misremembering.

[00:29:34] And I'm like, I'm not misremembering.

[00:29:36] I've literally never been inside it.

[00:29:38] Second story, third story.

[00:29:40] What the fuck ever.

[00:29:41] I have a lot of close ties to that place.

[00:29:42] Yeah.

[00:29:43] I'll just say that.

[00:29:43] Yeah.

[00:29:44] So, I mean, you grew up working there and you had some family that worked there.

[00:29:47] So more than that, but yeah.

[00:29:49] Well, right.

[00:29:50] I wasn't going to go any further than that.

[00:29:52] Right.

[00:29:53] Yeah.

[00:29:53] So those are the only two reasons that I know about that fucking store or whatever we

[00:29:59] call it.

[00:29:59] I think there was a restaurant with it.

[00:30:01] You said there was a bookstore with it.

[00:30:02] No, the restaurant was what went over the road.

[00:30:04] Oh, I didn't realize that.

[00:30:05] Yeah.

[00:30:06] So there was a, you'd go like downstairs.

[00:30:08] There was like this, uh, there's a, it was like a water wheel.

[00:30:11] Like as soon as you walk into the place, which was, let me, this is, it was, it was, and it

[00:30:15] was the first grocery store in the Dayton area to do 24 hours because they lost the keys

[00:30:21] one night.

[00:30:25] I did not know that story either.

[00:30:27] That is so funny.

[00:30:29] Yeah.

[00:30:29] So that's why they became the first 24 hour grocery store in the Dayton area.

[00:30:33] Oh, wow.

[00:30:34] And then, uh, they were like, but they had, they had the grocery store downstairs and it

[00:30:38] was like, like you had, it was great.

[00:30:40] I mean, there was just like, it was like a live market type place, you know?

[00:30:43] And, uh, and then you go up to the next story and it was kind of like a half story

[00:30:47] type thing, but there was a bookstore and then you go to the third story and that was

[00:30:50] where the restaurant was and that went over the road.

[00:30:52] That's so amazing.

[00:30:53] Yeah.

[00:30:53] And I think if I'm not mistaken, that one of the buildings is still open, but it's a

[00:31:00] liquor store now.

[00:31:01] Okay.

[00:31:02] I wasn't sure if that was, there was a separate building that was out a little later.

[00:31:06] Okay.

[00:31:06] But it's still there now, but it's not the same company or anything like that.

[00:31:10] No, no, no, no.

[00:31:10] Right.

[00:31:10] Yeah.

[00:31:11] Right.

[00:31:12] Um, actually there was, um, part of the bakery that was in there, um, is now, uh, they,

[00:31:20] they moved on to become what is now a locally famous cake place called LA.

[00:31:27] Sure.

[00:31:27] Yeah.

[00:31:27] I'm never sure how to pronounce it.

[00:31:29] I don't know.

[00:31:30] It's E L L E.

[00:31:31] I wouldn't say that they, they, some of them worked there and then.

[00:31:34] Right.

[00:31:35] They opened their own thing.

[00:31:36] Yeah.

[00:31:36] It's the same people.

[00:31:37] Some of the origins spring from that.

[00:31:39] That's what I'm saying.

[00:31:40] Yeah.

[00:31:41] And, and it's locally famous.

[00:31:43] Anybody gives a shit about the history of this grocery store or cake place in Dayton,

[00:31:48] Ohio.

[00:31:48] Me telling all of our listeners about this boring geography, right?

[00:31:53] That is only barely not really meaningful to me.

[00:31:58] Right.

[00:31:59] Right.

[00:32:00] Somewhat meaningful to you because of your family history and childhood.

[00:32:04] Right.

[00:32:04] Yeah.

[00:32:04] Um, that is what the Bible is like, except without any kind of relevant person being excited

[00:32:12] about it.

[00:32:13] Like at least if you're listening, you can hear us like joking around and telling you like,

[00:32:19] Oh, and this was cool.

[00:32:20] And Oh, isn't it like that?

[00:32:21] Like reminiscing or whatever.

[00:32:23] Yeah.

[00:32:23] Like at least there's that.

[00:32:25] Right.

[00:32:25] So you weren't, if you're listening, you weren't totally, you might've been like bored, but

[00:32:29] not like bored, bored.

[00:32:30] Right.

[00:32:31] But like everything that I was just reading to you, that was not it.

[00:32:35] Okay.

[00:32:36] That is not how you do like town, town, town, town, town.

[00:32:40] Fuck that town, town, town.

[00:32:41] Okay.

[00:32:42] Yeah.

[00:32:42] That's what I was trying to bring to the table here is a comparison.

[00:32:46] Got it.

[00:32:46] All right.

[00:32:46] So anyway, I will conquer against you who live in Marsha.

[00:32:51] That's great.

[00:32:52] The nobles of Israel will flee to Adulam.

[00:32:55] Okay.

[00:32:56] That's where they're going to flee to.

[00:32:57] That's what's going to do.

[00:32:58] Okay.

[00:32:59] Shave your head in mourning for the children in whom you delight.

[00:33:03] Make yourself as bald as the vulture, for they will go from you into exile.

[00:33:08] The end.

[00:33:09] I just, I, when, when you're being conquered, why would you, why, what's the point of stopping

[00:33:14] to shave your head?

[00:33:16] Um, it's like, I don't, I don't, I don't get, I mean, I understand that it's a sense as a

[00:33:20] sign of, of, you know, you're, you're distraught.

[00:33:25] Right.

[00:33:25] And it's a sign that you're upset or something like that or whatever.

[00:33:28] There's some symbolism to it.

[00:33:30] I don't think that it's just the distraught or just the being in mourning.

[00:33:34] I think it's also supposed to be giving yourself into it.

[00:33:41] Like it's going through this motion.

[00:33:44] You know what I mean?

[00:33:45] Got it.

[00:33:46] Like you put on the sackcloth and you sit in the dust, right?

[00:33:49] Because you're repenting.

[00:33:51] And that action is, I am doing this action because I don't want to have anything distracting

[00:33:58] me from, um, my repenting.

[00:34:02] Right.

[00:34:02] That's what the, the sackcloth is about.

[00:34:04] Right.

[00:34:05] Sitting in the dust is because I don't deserve anything but dust.

[00:34:08] Right.

[00:34:08] And so I think that the shaving of the head is like part of, I'm giving myself into the

[00:34:14] mourning and I'm, this is what I am.

[00:34:17] This is what I'm doing now.

[00:34:19] Got it.

[00:34:19] Yeah.

[00:34:20] It's not just like a symbolic act because that would, that would be so shallow as to

[00:34:28] why bother?

[00:34:29] You could shave your head and then you're, you did the symbolism, but tomorrow, like you're

[00:34:34] still bald.

[00:34:35] Got it.

[00:34:35] So like you have to actually mean it when you're doing it.

[00:34:39] And that's what the big deal is.

[00:34:41] Sure.

[00:34:41] And I, and why, and I looked it up, I, I, I somewhat, and there's, there's some sense

[00:34:46] of humility before God and, um, and deep sorrow.

[00:34:51] And basically it's a physical manifestation of, of the humiliation that has happened to

[00:34:56] you and the defeat that has happened to you.

[00:34:58] It's another, it's another type of circumcision, if you will.

[00:35:02] Sure.

[00:35:03] You know, you're, you're laying yourself bare before cutting off a piece of yourself,

[00:35:08] right.

[00:35:08] You know, to show that you are, you're sacrificing part of yourself.

[00:35:13] Yeah.

[00:35:14] Right.

[00:35:14] I mean, that's what I said.

[00:35:15] You're cutting off a piece of yourself, you know?

[00:35:17] I guess that makes a little bit of sense.

[00:35:19] Yeah.

[00:35:19] Maybe.

[00:35:20] Yeah.

[00:35:21] I can accept that.

[00:35:22] I suppose.

[00:35:22] I'm not saying I would ever do it.

[00:35:24] Cause I'm not that deep, I guess.

[00:35:27] I don't look, I have suffered tragedies and I have done the big ugly cry, but I don't,

[00:35:35] my feeling and my crying is enough that I don't need an outward further show of it.

[00:35:41] To be fair, there is something, um, even in today's culture with regard to like when

[00:35:47] people tear out their hair or cut their hair in, in some sort of a mental breakdown or something

[00:35:54] like that, that symbolizes some sort of an angst or a, um, uh, like when Britney Spears

[00:36:00] did the whole bald thing.

[00:36:02] No, like when you see someone that's like chopped their own hair off or something.

[00:36:05] Yeah.

[00:36:06] That symbolizes something to us.

[00:36:08] Right.

[00:36:08] Like there's some sort of something happened.

[00:36:11] Wow.

[00:36:11] What happened to you, man?

[00:36:12] Right.

[00:36:12] Like, you know, like that's, or, or like when a woman goes through a really hard breakup

[00:36:17] and comes out afterwards, like a few weeks later and has a brand new hairstyle.

[00:36:22] Sure.

[00:36:23] It's not because she's like, you know, I ditched that dude and now I'm pretty.

[00:36:27] It's because she's like, I need something new in order to feel good about myself because

[00:36:31] right now I feel like the ugliest, shittiest piece of shit.

[00:36:35] I'm lonely and I'm sad and something got to give.

[00:36:38] So.

[00:36:38] Sure.

[00:36:39] Yeah.

[00:36:39] I mean, I guess changing your hair up.

[00:36:42] I'm, I'm, I'm trying to be fair to the fact that like, I'm not really like we get caught

[00:36:47] up in the language that gets used in the Bible and it's the same things that they say over

[00:36:51] and over again.

[00:36:52] So some of it gets caught up in this whole traditional way of dealing with the morning

[00:36:56] and dealing with these certain circumstances that feels too contrived in the Bible.

[00:37:02] Right.

[00:37:02] But there is some sense of actual symbolism to some of those actions, I think.

[00:37:06] You're right.

[00:37:07] So.

[00:37:07] I mean, I've, I've got a haircut after a hard time before to just try to feel better for

[00:37:14] a minute.

[00:37:15] Yeah.

[00:37:15] You know, something new.

[00:37:16] Right.

[00:37:16] It's, it's kind of like that.

[00:37:18] The whole reason that, um, New Year's is a great time for resolutions and stuff because

[00:37:25] you've got the momentum of, um, the fresh start and that's what the, the haircut is supposed

[00:37:32] to be.

[00:37:33] Or like some people do like shopping as catharsis.

[00:37:38] Sure.

[00:37:38] You go shopping and you know, you get a whole new outfit or whatever.

[00:37:41] Right.

[00:37:42] And you've got that whole like fresh start momentum going.

[00:37:46] Yep.

[00:37:46] All right.

[00:37:47] Well, um, that was, um, Micah chapter one.

[00:37:51] Sure as fuck was.

[00:37:53] Uh, did you have anything else to add about Micah?

[00:37:54] Micah before we get out of here today?

[00:37:56] Nope.

[00:37:57] All right.

[00:37:58] Um, don't know what else to say.

[00:38:00] It was, it was Micah.

[00:38:01] Go cut your hair and don't be in one of those towns.

[00:38:05] No.

[00:38:06] Yeah.

[00:38:06] Don't go in those towns.

[00:38:07] Cause you're going to get it.

[00:38:09] Apparently.

[00:38:10] If you didn't got it.

[00:38:12] I don't know.

[00:38:13] All right.

[00:38:13] Hopefully we'll be feeling a little better by tomorrow and we'll do another one.

[00:38:18] And so, uh, we will be back with probably tomorrow with chapter two.

[00:38:23] Yep.

[00:38:23] See you then.

[00:38:25] Bye.