Micah Chapter 2: Bible Study by Atheists

Micah Chapter 2: Bible Study by Atheists

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Micah Chapter 2: Wrath, Nakedness, and Prophetic Puppet Shows


Join Husband and Wife as they delve into the chaotic world of Micah Chapter 2 in this episode of Sacrilegious Discourse. With Wife's voice on the mend, they tackle the curious case of Micah's nakedness and the wrath of God with their trademark humor and skepticism. From the inequity of divine punishment to the political undertones in Micah's prophecies, this episode is a whirlwind of biblical critique and candid banter.


Here's what we're unpacking:


1. Naked Truths: Explore the symbolism behind Micah's nudity and its implications in the narrative.

2. Divine Wrath and Inequity: Discuss the puzzling distribution of God's punishment and its impact on both the rich and the oppressed.

3. Prophetic Puppet Shows: Dive into the dynamics between prophets and the possible puppet-like use of God in political messages.

4. A Message for the Oppressed: Appreciate the political message against the rich and powerful, and how it resonates with modern issues of inequity.


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[00:01:33] Wife!

[00:01:34] Do you know where we are?

[00:01:36] We just got done starting Micah chapter 1. So we did that yesterday.

[00:01:42] Well no, we actually finished Micah chapter 1.

[00:01:44] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:01:44] We started the book of Micah.

[00:01:45] We started the book of Micah.

[00:01:46] Right, right.

[00:01:47] I'm just trying to be precise.

[00:01:49] Yes.

[00:01:50] And also I'm very excited because my voice is a little bit better tonight.

[00:01:53] It is.

[00:01:54] You seem to be doing a lot better tonight.

[00:01:56] Yeah, so that's good.

[00:01:57] Yeah.

[00:01:59] So in Micah chapter 1...

[00:02:01] Oh yeah, what happened in that chapter?

[00:02:03] Yeah.

[00:02:04] Well, Micah heard from God.

[00:02:06] God talked to him apparently.

[00:02:09] Sure he did.

[00:02:09] That's the thing.

[00:02:11] And you know, there was a lot of cities that were going to feel the wrath of God, I think.

[00:02:15] Like a lot of them.

[00:02:16] And a wrath, wrath here and a wrath, wrath there.

[00:02:18] Here a wrath, there a wrath.

[00:02:20] Everywhere a wrath, wrath.

[00:02:21] Yeah.

[00:02:21] And then Micah ran around naked.

[00:02:24] I mean, he do like to swing that ding dong though.

[00:02:26] Yeah.

[00:02:26] I did look it up.

[00:02:27] It was symbolically Micah and or maybe the Israelites.

[00:02:33] All of them naked.

[00:02:34] All of them naked.

[00:02:35] Yeah.

[00:02:35] That was a sausage party.

[00:02:38] Yeah.

[00:02:38] It was a...

[00:02:40] Maybe a nude beach, you know?

[00:02:44] Yeah.

[00:02:44] I don't know.

[00:02:45] Why did he make some happy?

[00:02:46] We might go into that a little bit more in the Q&A, but there was...

[00:02:49] So the nakedness was, you know, there was more to it than what we were able to glean

[00:02:55] while we were reading it.

[00:02:56] So, but yeah, it was Micah and possibly the Israelites, depending on who you talked to.

[00:03:03] I have to be so honest with you right now.

[00:03:05] Yeah.

[00:03:05] While I was reading chapter one, my throat was so itchy.

[00:03:10] Yeah.

[00:03:10] And the material was so weird or whatever.

[00:03:15] I was not following any of it.

[00:03:17] I have no idea what happened in chapter one.

[00:03:18] I mean, that's why I just told you.

[00:03:20] I know.

[00:03:21] You know, they...

[00:03:22] God talked to Micah and, you know...

[00:03:23] It's just sometimes your summaries, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.

[00:03:26] But this time I was like listening with bated breath and I was like, they were naked?

[00:03:31] They were naked, yeah.

[00:03:32] I don't remember.

[00:03:33] Okay.

[00:03:33] At least Micah.

[00:03:34] Well, anyway, symbolism.

[00:03:36] But yeah, nakedness also.

[00:03:38] I like to be naked in my room by myself.

[00:03:41] Yeah, right.

[00:03:41] I like to be naked with the lights out and the curtains closed and...

[00:03:47] Just be naked there?

[00:03:48] Under the blanket.

[00:03:49] Yeah.

[00:03:50] Hiding and crying in shame.

[00:03:53] Isn't that how naked works?

[00:03:56] I think that's, yeah, that's how most people do it.

[00:03:57] Okay.

[00:03:58] All right.

[00:04:00] All right.

[00:04:01] All right.

[00:04:02] Uh, so we just got done with Micah chapter one.

[00:04:05] Sure as fuck did.

[00:04:05] Which means that today we're going to be getting into...

[00:04:08] Micah chapter two.

[00:04:10] All right.

[00:04:10] Let's do this.

[00:04:11] Okay.

[00:04:17] Okay.

[00:04:18] I have to tell you something.

[00:04:19] Do ya?

[00:04:20] Yeah.

[00:04:20] So, um, at the end there, I normally go, okie dokie.

[00:04:25] You do.

[00:04:26] But for whatever reason, um, I was like, okay.

[00:04:29] Yay!

[00:04:30] Yeah, it threw me the fuck off.

[00:04:31] I know.

[00:04:32] You looked at me like, who the fuck are you?

[00:04:34] And I, the answer to that question is that I do not know.

[00:04:38] Sometimes wife just does not know where she is.

[00:04:41] I don't, I don't know how to do the thing.

[00:04:44] Like...

[00:04:44] Not, not like in a bad way.

[00:04:45] Just like, uh...

[00:04:46] I'm like, what do I do here?

[00:04:47] I've never done it before.

[00:04:49] Right.

[00:04:49] It's the first time ever.

[00:04:51] Even though this is like probably our 1200th episode or something.

[00:04:54] Right?

[00:04:54] Yeah.

[00:04:55] Yeah.

[00:04:55] So, I just want it to be acknowledged that I am aware that I fucked that up.

[00:05:00] And this is, this is how grown ass adults move along.

[00:05:05] They acknowledge their errors and they learn from it and they grow and they try to okie

[00:05:11] dokie better next time.

[00:05:12] That's right.

[00:05:13] Okay?

[00:05:14] Yep.

[00:05:14] And I pity the fool when I am older, old, old, and I have dementia at you.

[00:05:21] Well, hopefully that never happens.

[00:05:23] I hope that my dementia sets in before yours.

[00:05:26] Cause I know that you come from a family of dementia heads.

[00:05:29] I do.

[00:05:30] And it's not gonna be good.

[00:05:33] I'm more so than you worry about, I think, that.

[00:05:35] Yes.

[00:05:36] So I...

[00:05:37] And I'm two years older than you.

[00:05:39] So, like, it, it's not in my favor.

[00:05:42] You know what I mean?

[00:05:43] Like, I feel like I'm gonna get it before you.

[00:05:46] I hope.

[00:05:48] But...

[00:05:48] I don't think anybody should hope for getting anything before anybody.

[00:05:51] I don't want either of us to have dementia, but the odds are that we're both gonna have

[00:05:56] dementia.

[00:05:57] Why?

[00:05:57] Why do you think you're gonna have it?

[00:05:59] Because I already probably have it.

[00:06:01] No.

[00:06:02] Well, I mean, I can't think of words and I forget how to okie dokie.

[00:06:06] And instead I go, okay!

[00:06:09] I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna put that as a, uh, no.

[00:06:13] No.

[00:06:14] Alright.

[00:06:14] Yeah.

[00:06:15] Well...

[00:06:15] I'm not, I'm not allowing that.

[00:06:17] That's not a thing that's happening.

[00:06:18] Well, if either of us has to have it, I hope it's me and not you.

[00:06:22] And if both of us has to have it, I hope I get it first.

[00:06:27] Okay.

[00:06:28] Okay?

[00:06:29] Yeah.

[00:06:29] The Lord has spoken.

[00:06:31] Is that what happened just then?

[00:06:32] Whoa!

[00:06:33] To those who plan iniquity.

[00:06:35] To those who plot evil on their beds.

[00:06:38] It's fine to plant it on the floor.

[00:06:40] Just don't plant it on your bed.

[00:06:42] Yeah.

[00:06:42] Did you plant it on the couch?

[00:06:44] Did you plant it on the love sea?

[00:06:46] Did you plant it on the bed?

[00:06:47] Did you plant it on the floor?

[00:06:49] Did you plant evil on your bed?

[00:06:52] Right.

[00:06:53] Yeah.

[00:06:53] Don't do it.

[00:06:54] Weren't we just talking about how God was not equitable in his distribution of punishment

[00:06:59] by allowing for the poor who were shit on by the rich to get punished along with the rich

[00:07:06] when he destroyed things?

[00:07:08] Remember how he's gonna destroy all those towns?

[00:07:10] Remember how I forgot to pay attention?

[00:07:12] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:07:13] Yeah.

[00:07:13] But we were literally talking about the inequity of that action based on how God was, you

[00:07:19] know, speaking through Micah in this last chapter.

[00:07:22] Because Micah was like, these rich people suck because of the way they've been treating

[00:07:26] the poor.

[00:07:27] So God's gonna destroy these towns.

[00:07:29] Including the poor.

[00:07:30] And I'm like, whoa, what?

[00:07:32] Yeah, yeah.

[00:07:32] Like, that's not...

[00:07:34] But now we're talking about he's shaming the people that treat people with inequity.

[00:07:39] Yeah.

[00:07:39] And I'm like...

[00:07:40] So you...

[00:07:41] So yeah, right.

[00:07:42] You're talking about yourself here.

[00:07:44] Everybody sucks.

[00:07:45] Yeah.

[00:07:45] He...

[00:07:46] They just can't get this right.

[00:07:47] No.

[00:07:48] At morning's light, they carry it out because it is in their power to do it.

[00:07:53] The plot.

[00:07:54] The evil plot.

[00:07:55] Yeah, against...

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:57] The people that they're not being equitable to.

[00:07:58] They covet fields and seize them and houses and take them.

[00:08:03] They defraud people of their homes.

[00:08:05] They rob them of their inheritance.

[00:08:08] Therefore, the Lord says...

[00:08:10] You ready?

[00:08:10] Okay, I'm ready.

[00:08:11] Yeah.

[00:08:11] I am planning disaster against this people from which you cannot save yourselves.

[00:08:16] These people.

[00:08:17] Yeah.

[00:08:18] Which he says.

[00:08:19] He says...

[00:08:19] This...

[00:08:20] I am planning disaster against this people.

[00:08:23] Right.

[00:08:24] This community.

[00:08:25] This...

[00:08:25] No, no, no.

[00:08:26] Yeah, I get it.

[00:08:26] Yeah.

[00:08:27] But...

[00:08:28] Like, he doesn't...

[00:08:29] Okay.

[00:08:30] Which includes the people that are already victims.

[00:08:33] Right.

[00:08:34] Well, and that's what I'm getting at here.

[00:08:35] Like, he's...

[00:08:36] Right.

[00:08:36] He's saying...

[00:08:37] You could interpret this maybe to mean...

[00:08:40] Like, this specifically right here.

[00:08:42] Mm-hmm.

[00:08:42] To mean maybe just the rich people and the people that were treating the others with inequity.

[00:08:46] Right?

[00:08:46] I feel like that's how most people probably would.

[00:08:49] Probably.

[00:08:50] Right?

[00:08:51] Mm-hmm.

[00:08:51] But the last chapter...

[00:08:53] Did not differentiate.

[00:08:54] There was a differentiation between how he felt about the people that were poor versus

[00:08:57] the people that were treating the more badly.

[00:08:59] But the punishment went across the whole board.

[00:09:01] The punishment was a destruction of the towns.

[00:09:03] Yeah.

[00:09:03] Right?

[00:09:03] Which doesn't leave a whole lot of room, in my opinion...

[00:09:06] Right.

[00:09:07] ...for an equitable distribution of punishment.

[00:09:10] Yeah.

[00:09:10] So, it's always interesting to me how the God in this Bible and the prophets that are

[00:09:17] talking about this God talk about this disparity between the rich and the poor sometimes in some

[00:09:23] of these books that we've read and how the rich are obviously bad in their distribution of land and wealth and how they treat the poor.

[00:09:33] So, there's inequity.

[00:09:34] Right?

[00:09:35] As we're saying here.

[00:09:36] I'm just using the words in the Bible.

[00:09:37] Which they like this word, this book.

[00:09:40] So...

[00:09:41] But his punishment isn't metered out with equity either.

[00:09:46] No.

[00:09:46] So, there is no...

[00:09:48] Like, there's no distinction between the wrong and what the resolution to that wrong is.

[00:09:56] He doesn't really come up with a good plan, to be honest.

[00:09:59] No.

[00:10:00] Like, he's like, something bad happened and I don't know what the fuck to do to fix it, but

[00:10:06] my idea is everything is a nail because I have a hammer.

[00:10:12] Yeah.

[00:10:12] So, boom!

[00:10:13] Right.

[00:10:14] No, and that's my problem here.

[00:10:18] Yeah.

[00:10:19] You can't complain about something that you're going to do yourself.

[00:10:21] Yeah.

[00:10:22] Right?

[00:10:22] And that's how most of his...

[00:10:24] This God of the Bible.

[00:10:26] Right.

[00:10:26] Most of his solutions end up being, just fucking wipe them out.

[00:10:30] Yeah.

[00:10:30] I'm just going to kill them all.

[00:10:31] Just whatever.

[00:10:32] I'm going to start over.

[00:10:33] Look.

[00:10:34] It's the eternal white out.

[00:10:36] Right.

[00:10:37] But he starts by saying, these specific people are shitty to these other specific people.

[00:10:43] Right?

[00:10:43] Mm-hmm.

[00:10:44] My solution is I'm going to kill y'all.

[00:10:46] All of you.

[00:10:47] Collectively.

[00:10:47] Right.

[00:10:48] Yeah.

[00:10:48] Because why not?

[00:10:49] Right?

[00:10:49] I'm God.

[00:10:50] They were already victims anyway.

[00:10:51] What the fuck do they matter?

[00:10:53] I don't really give a shit.

[00:10:53] I've said in the past, I don't particularly like some of you.

[00:10:56] Most of you.

[00:10:57] Yeah.

[00:10:57] Yeah.

[00:10:57] Yeah.

[00:10:58] So, you know, whatever.

[00:10:59] What does kid y'all start over?

[00:11:00] Honestly, you know, if they were being victims, they probably had it coming anyway.

[00:11:05] They just weren't praying hard enough or whatever, however that goes.

[00:11:09] Yeah.

[00:11:09] I mean, that's probably what's wrong.

[00:11:10] I mean, when you get born on the wrong continent or to the wrong family, it's your own fault.

[00:11:17] Yeah.

[00:11:17] You know, that happens to you.

[00:11:19] Indeed.

[00:11:19] Indeed.

[00:11:19] And you brought it as a baby upon yourself.

[00:11:21] Right.

[00:11:22] Okay.

[00:11:22] So, therefore, the Lord says, I'm planning a disaster against this people from which you

[00:11:27] cannot save yourselves.

[00:11:28] You will no longer walk proudly for it will be a time of calamity.

[00:11:33] Yeah.

[00:11:34] Calamity Sam.

[00:11:35] In that day.

[00:11:37] In that day.

[00:11:38] Okay.

[00:11:38] Yeah.

[00:11:39] People will ridicule you.

[00:11:41] They will taunt you with this mournful song.

[00:11:45] We are utterly ruined.

[00:11:47] My people's possession is divided up.

[00:11:52] It's a song.

[00:11:53] He takes it from me.

[00:11:55] He assigns our fields to traitors.

[00:11:58] Is it actually a song?

[00:12:00] He said, I will taunt you with this mournful song.

[00:12:04] And then I sang the words that are there.

[00:12:06] No, I was.

[00:12:07] Sorry.

[00:12:08] Somehow I missed that bit.

[00:12:10] Got it.

[00:12:11] And.

[00:12:11] But that was a great.

[00:12:12] You thought I was just singing for no reason?

[00:12:14] That was a great rendition there.

[00:12:16] I had it.

[00:12:17] And I had like platinum gold right there.

[00:12:19] That was good stuff.

[00:12:20] Look.

[00:12:22] You ain't gotta make fun.

[00:12:23] I was just having a good time with it.

[00:12:26] No, I was having a good time.

[00:12:27] I imagine that's how.

[00:12:28] You're having a good time.

[00:12:29] Fuck off.

[00:12:30] I imagine that's how God sounds.

[00:12:33] That's fair.

[00:12:33] Right?

[00:12:34] I like that.

[00:12:34] Okay.

[00:12:35] Yeah.

[00:12:35] I can get down with that.

[00:12:36] Yeah.

[00:12:37] Yeah.

[00:12:37] Therefore.

[00:12:38] Therefore.

[00:12:39] You will have no one in the assembly of the Lord to divide the land by lot.

[00:12:43] Boom.

[00:12:43] Ha ha.

[00:12:44] Oh, okay.

[00:12:45] Do not prophecy.

[00:12:46] The prophets say.

[00:12:48] Do not prophecy about these things.

[00:12:50] This grace will not overtake us.

[00:12:52] Hold on a second here.

[00:12:54] We're literally reading a prophet talking to God.

[00:12:58] Mm hmm.

[00:12:59] And God is telling this prophet.

[00:13:01] Mm hmm.

[00:13:02] Not to prophecy.

[00:13:02] Yeah.

[00:13:04] No, no, no, no, no.

[00:13:05] Okay.

[00:13:06] God is saying.

[00:13:07] Okay.

[00:13:08] Yeah.

[00:13:08] Hold on.

[00:13:09] I need this breakdown here.

[00:13:11] Micah is saying that God is saying that the other prophets are saying, oh, don't prophecy

[00:13:19] against us, Micah and God.

[00:13:21] Oh.

[00:13:22] Yeah.

[00:13:22] Okay.

[00:13:23] So God is like, they're being such whiny piss ants.

[00:13:27] Okay.

[00:13:27] Okay.

[00:13:28] And Micah's like, God says that they are being such whiny piss ants.

[00:13:33] Got it.

[00:13:34] Okay.

[00:13:35] Sorry.

[00:13:35] That was a lot of like, he said, he said, he said.

[00:13:38] Right.

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:39] But it also, that, that's, it makes more sense now that you said it and you kind of explained

[00:13:45] it better than, than I heard it.

[00:13:47] Right.

[00:13:47] So.

[00:13:47] Well, my throat is less itchy tonight so I can pay better attention.

[00:13:51] Yeah.

[00:13:51] No, that's good.

[00:13:52] That's good.

[00:13:52] Yeah.

[00:13:53] That's good.

[00:13:53] I just, I find like, there's a lot of bickering between obviously some of the prophets that

[00:14:00] made it into the Bible.

[00:14:01] Right.

[00:14:02] And they're going to get the final word because we can't go back and interview people 2000

[00:14:06] years ago.

[00:14:06] Right.

[00:14:07] I wonder if there was like a lot of like talk back then about, Hey, stop, you know, stop

[00:14:13] prophesying against me.

[00:14:15] Stop being a, stop being an asshole.

[00:14:17] You know, like don't, maybe that was just like a thing between, you know, prophets groups

[00:14:21] of prophets.

[00:14:22] I'm going to, I'm going to profit against you.

[00:14:24] Hmm.

[00:14:25] You better not.

[00:14:26] I'm going to tell the governor person.

[00:14:29] Oh, you better not tell him cause I'm going to tell God or whatever.

[00:14:33] I'm going to profit.

[00:14:34] You know what?

[00:14:35] I saw that you ate the wrong food yesterday.

[00:14:39] How do you like them apples?

[00:14:40] Boom.

[00:14:41] Right.

[00:14:41] Prophecy.

[00:14:42] Yeah.

[00:14:42] Yeah.

[00:14:44] I like to imagine that this is happening as a puppet show because that's the

[00:14:52] only way it can make sense for the mic.

[00:14:54] It'd be like, or any profit to be like, and then I go and then God goes and then this is

[00:15:00] God talking as me to me.

[00:15:02] And then this is me talking to God.

[00:15:04] And then now, okay, now hold on everybody pause.

[00:15:07] This is me talking outside of this.

[00:15:11] Okay.

[00:15:12] Right.

[00:15:12] Yeah.

[00:15:12] Like we need props.

[00:15:15] Oh yeah.

[00:15:16] No, I, I, that would definitely make this better.

[00:15:18] Right.

[00:15:18] I would, if somebody was like just showing me what's happening, like it would make this,

[00:15:25] like I would love to like work with an animator or like a, so like I could be like, okay,

[00:15:30] we need to figure out what's happening here and you need to show it.

[00:15:34] And then we're going to talk as we're going to read this and I'm going to be like, Oh,

[00:15:37] that.

[00:15:37] Okay.

[00:15:38] So we're casting Micah right now.

[00:15:40] Is Micah a cabbage patch doll or a transformer or like, uh, one of the GI Joe guys?

[00:15:48] No, he's gotta be a Thundercat.

[00:15:49] Is he a Thundercat?

[00:15:50] That's, that's what I'm picking.

[00:15:51] Why?

[00:15:52] That's so tough.

[00:15:53] I don't think Micah deserves to be a Thundercat.

[00:15:56] Thundercats are awesome.

[00:15:58] Oh yeah.

[00:15:59] Thundercats are way too awesome.

[00:16:00] Micah ain't no Thundercat.

[00:16:02] You're right.

[00:16:02] Okay.

[00:16:03] You sully the mouth of Thundercat.

[00:16:05] All right.

[00:16:05] I said mouth, but I meant house.

[00:16:07] Yeah.

[00:16:08] Right.

[00:16:08] You sully the house of Thundercat.

[00:16:10] Yeah.

[00:16:11] All right.

[00:16:12] So maybe, maybe he's a Ken.

[00:16:14] Maybe he's more like a, he's a Ken doll.

[00:16:16] Okay.

[00:16:16] He's not even Ken.

[00:16:17] He's, he's one of the off brand Kens.

[00:16:20] There you go.

[00:16:20] Okay.

[00:16:21] Do not prophecy.

[00:16:22] He said off brand Ken quoting the other prophets.

[00:16:25] Do not prophecy these things about us.

[00:16:27] Oh, disgrace will not overtake us.

[00:16:30] Okay.

[00:16:30] Okay.

[00:16:31] Now I think he is, he's either being himself or he's talking as God now.

[00:16:37] Okay.

[00:16:37] Not sure which you descendants of Jacob.

[00:16:40] Should it be said, does the Lord become impatient?

[00:16:44] Does he do such things?

[00:16:46] Do my words do away?

[00:16:49] Do not my words do good to the one whose ways are upright lately?

[00:16:55] My people have risen up like an army.

[00:16:58] You strip off the rich robe from those who pass by without a care, like men returning

[00:17:05] from battle.

[00:17:06] You drive the women of my people from their pleasant homes.

[00:17:10] You take away my blessing from their children forever.

[00:17:14] Get up, go away for this is not your resting place because it is defiled.

[00:17:19] It is ruined beyond all remedy.

[00:17:21] If a liar and deceiver comes and says, I'll prophecy for you plenty of wine and beer, that

[00:17:28] would be just the profit for this people.

[00:17:30] That sounded so snarky.

[00:17:32] No, but I kind of like it.

[00:17:33] Like we had discussed early on that, that this is kind of a, he's prophesying against the

[00:17:39] rich and the powerful.

[00:17:40] Right.

[00:17:41] And I like the message.

[00:17:43] And if you take it in the sense that this is a political message and not a message from

[00:17:48] God.

[00:17:48] Which the way I read it, the way I am taking the Bible generally speaking as we're kind

[00:17:54] of going through it, because it reads this way, is that they kind of use God as a political

[00:18:01] puppet.

[00:18:01] Right.

[00:18:02] And if you're looking at it from that stance, he's invoking God to say, you rich people

[00:18:07] suck.

[00:18:08] You're treating these poor people like crap.

[00:18:10] You're doing these things.

[00:18:11] You're ruining their lives.

[00:18:12] You're doing all these things wrong.

[00:18:14] I kind of like that message.

[00:18:16] And, and he's like, and God doesn't like it.

[00:18:19] And he's going to get you.

[00:18:20] But that's almost at some level is almost beside the point.

[00:18:23] Right.

[00:18:23] Right.

[00:18:23] Like this is Micah saying, you asshole rich people need to stop treating the people who

[00:18:30] are lesser than you with regard to, you know, means.

[00:18:34] You need to stop treating them shitty.

[00:18:36] It's almost like he's Aerosmith singing that badass song, eat the rich.

[00:18:41] Yeah.

[00:18:42] Yeah.

[00:18:42] Such a good song.

[00:18:43] I mean, you go in Robin hood, right?

[00:18:45] Like steal from the rich, whatever.

[00:18:47] He, this, this, I kind of like this.

[00:18:49] We're not quite to the steal from the rich take, you know, give it to the poor thing.

[00:18:53] But the message is very, we, the people, you know, people, you know, we need to stand

[00:18:58] up and fight this injustice, right?

[00:19:02] The, we are only as great as our weakest link.

[00:19:06] Right.

[00:19:06] United.

[00:19:06] We stand together.

[00:19:08] No, wait, what is it?

[00:19:10] United.

[00:19:10] We stand together.

[00:19:11] We fall.

[00:19:12] No together.

[00:19:13] We fall.

[00:19:14] Yeah.

[00:19:14] Okay.

[00:19:15] Yeah.

[00:19:15] It's very, um, democratizing as far as the way this is, but just there's God over

[00:19:20] there too.

[00:19:21] Well, yeah.

[00:19:21] So I like, I like this message.

[00:19:23] Me too.

[00:19:24] It's a good, it's a good.

[00:19:26] Generally speaking.

[00:19:27] Sure.

[00:19:27] Leave out God.

[00:19:28] I, I love anybody who stands up for the oppressed.

[00:19:31] Yes.

[00:19:32] I mean, that's always a good message.

[00:19:33] That's probably why this is a, you know, people invoke this as we were, you mentioned

[00:19:38] it earlier.

[00:19:39] People invoke this at an oft quoted book from which, um, oppressed people at, um, rallies,

[00:19:46] rallies and protests.

[00:19:48] Yeah.

[00:19:48] Wave their signs.

[00:19:49] Yeah.

[00:19:49] Yeah.

[00:19:50] All right.

[00:19:51] If a liar and deceiver comes and says, I will prophecy for you plenty of wine and

[00:19:55] beer, that would be just the profit for this people.

[00:19:58] I will surely gather all of you, Jacob.

[00:20:01] I will surely bring together the remnant of Israel.

[00:20:04] Wait, what?

[00:20:05] Okay.

[00:20:05] Now he's back to, I'm going to fuck all your shit up, but don't worry.

[00:20:08] There'll be a remnant.

[00:20:10] Right.

[00:20:10] I will bring them together like sheep in a pen, like a flock in its pasture, like a

[00:20:15] lollipop on a stick.

[00:20:17] The place will throng with people.

[00:20:19] Okay.

[00:20:21] The people that he decides that are going to make it through this.

[00:20:23] The remnant.

[00:20:24] The remnant.

[00:20:24] Okay.

[00:20:25] The good grapes, not the squish raisins.

[00:20:28] Sure.

[00:20:28] Which I guess you can make a case for.

[00:20:30] He's, he's not punishing the wrong people if you.

[00:20:33] For the meek shall inherit the earth.

[00:20:35] Wait, no, that's Jesus in the new Testament.

[00:20:37] Right.

[00:20:37] Hold on.

[00:20:38] Nevermind.

[00:20:38] But still you could take this remnant portion here to maybe say he's punishing just the

[00:20:44] right people.

[00:20:44] Sure.

[00:20:45] Right.

[00:20:45] Let's hope.

[00:20:46] The one, capital O, one who breaks open the way will go up before them.

[00:20:51] They will break through the gate and go out.

[00:20:54] Their king, capital K, will pass through before them, the Lord at their head.

[00:21:00] The end.

[00:21:01] Jesus.

[00:21:01] Is that Jesus?

[00:21:04] Oh, Jesus.

[00:21:05] No, I just had to say it that way.

[00:21:07] Because it does definitely ring of Jesus.

[00:21:11] Right.

[00:21:11] It does definitely ring of somebody came back and read this and put a Jesus in there.

[00:21:15] No.

[00:21:16] Yeah.

[00:21:16] That's what I'm saying.

[00:21:17] That's what, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[00:21:18] Yeah.

[00:21:19] So yeah, obviously we read this from a Christian Bible.

[00:21:22] It is the Old Testament, right?

[00:21:24] But the way, the, where this is in the Bible, in the, in the Christian Bible.

[00:21:30] And again, I don't know that it matches up exactly in the, in fact, I think in the,

[00:21:35] the Jewish texts it's earlier we had discussed at some point.

[00:21:39] I honestly don't remember.

[00:21:41] But regardless, it's not going to be in exactly the same place.

[00:21:44] Right.

[00:21:44] Right.

[00:21:44] It's interesting.

[00:21:45] The placement.

[00:21:46] It's interesting.

[00:21:46] The wording.

[00:21:47] It's interesting what they chose to leave in this book and emphasize with the king.

[00:21:54] And the, you know, like this definitely does feel like it was, if not changed, maybe manipulated a little.

[00:22:00] Yeah.

[00:22:01] You know?

[00:22:01] So, but I'm going to go back to, I like the message.

[00:22:04] Sure.

[00:22:05] And I think that this Micah character, as far as the Old Testament is concerned, so far is, he's all right.

[00:22:13] Somebody read the Pentateuch.

[00:22:14] He's all right in that he's standing up for the poor and the oppressed.

[00:22:18] Right.

[00:22:18] It's giving Leviticus.

[00:22:21] It's what?

[00:22:22] I was being a young person who is speaking of the energy that it is giving off.

[00:22:29] Oh, I see.

[00:22:30] And I was saying, you know, it's giving.

[00:22:31] Got it.

[00:22:32] Oh yeah, yeah.

[00:22:33] The old wreck when they were standing up for poor people and, you know, things like that.

[00:22:36] Yeah.

[00:22:37] Got it.

[00:22:38] Yeah.

[00:22:38] No, that makes sense.

[00:22:39] Sorry.

[00:22:39] I was slow.

[00:22:40] You were being an old guy.

[00:22:43] I was.

[00:22:43] Yeah.

[00:22:44] And I was being a young.

[00:22:45] I was totally a Bible boomer.

[00:22:47] And then I had to explain it to you, which then made me be old.

[00:22:52] Yeah.

[00:22:52] And now I kind of want to die a little bit on the inside.

[00:22:57] Um, well, I'm sorry.

[00:23:02] But that was, I, I enjoyed that chapter.

[00:23:04] I did too.

[00:23:05] Overall.

[00:23:06] Insofar as.

[00:23:06] Insofar as.

[00:23:07] Sure.

[00:23:07] Yeah.

[00:23:08] It's still not as good as the book of Jonah.

[00:23:11] No.

[00:23:11] I'm sorry, but the book of Jonah, that book, that book slaps.

[00:23:16] I guess I was just thinking most of the way through of how it resonated with ideas that

[00:23:20] I have about how rich people kind of treat people today.

[00:23:23] Yeah.

[00:23:23] So I appreciate that message.

[00:23:26] Obviously the God shit that can take it or leave it for as far as I'm concerned.

[00:23:31] Yeah.

[00:23:31] But the message I liked.

[00:23:33] So that's a decent chapter.

[00:23:35] I think.

[00:23:36] Yeah.

[00:23:36] As they, as they go.

[00:23:38] As they go.

[00:23:38] Yeah.

[00:23:39] Sure.

[00:23:39] I mean, no rape.

[00:23:40] Hells.

[00:23:41] Right.

[00:23:41] That's a win.

[00:23:42] I mean, small victories, baby.

[00:23:44] Yeah.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:46] No, no mass murder.

[00:23:47] No.

[00:23:48] Exactly.

[00:23:48] I mean, we only discussed it.

[00:23:50] We discussed it.

[00:23:51] We discussed the smiting.

[00:23:52] Right.

[00:23:53] Yeah.

[00:23:53] Yeah.

[00:23:53] So that's a win too.

[00:23:54] Sure.

[00:23:55] Yeah.

[00:23:55] Overall, it's a, you know, like a, I say I never get more than like a six or a seven.

[00:24:01] So we'll go with like, that was like a four.

[00:24:03] It's not a one.

[00:24:05] It's not a zero.

[00:24:06] It's not a negative.

[00:24:07] I honestly, I would have said it was a good five.

[00:24:10] I was saying on a scale of one to six or seven.

[00:24:13] Oh, I thought you said I would never on the, on any book in the Bible, I would never go higher than a six or seven.

[00:24:18] Oh, okay.

[00:24:20] So that's, that's what I was saying.

[00:24:21] Okay.

[00:24:22] I didn't follow you that time.

[00:24:24] Where I would never take any book in the Bible that I've read thus far.

[00:24:26] Yeah.

[00:24:27] It was definitely a solid four.

[00:24:28] Yeah.

[00:24:28] Okay.

[00:24:29] Yeah.

[00:24:29] Totally.

[00:24:30] So that would mean that Jonah was the seven.

[00:24:34] It was, it was right up there.

[00:24:35] Yeah.

[00:24:36] It was a good book.

[00:24:37] Yeah.

[00:24:37] There were some chapters in Jonah.

[00:24:38] The wrap up was better.

[00:24:40] Yes.

[00:24:41] Than the chapters.

[00:24:42] Because it lent a lot more knowledge to that book that we had just read.

[00:24:46] Yeah.

[00:24:47] So that, that definitely helped.

[00:24:48] It brought it home.

[00:24:49] Yeah.

[00:24:50] It brought it from a six to a seven.

[00:24:51] You know what?

[00:24:52] I agree with that assessment.

[00:24:54] Yeah.

[00:24:54] Yeah.

[00:24:55] So anyway, we're not in Jonah.

[00:24:57] No, I'm sorry.

[00:24:58] In fact, what we just read was.

[00:25:00] Micah chapter two.

[00:25:01] Sorry, Micah.

[00:25:02] I didn't mean to diss you there, bro.

[00:25:04] Right.

[00:25:04] Yeah.

[00:25:04] I was so good.

[00:25:06] Jonah was so good.

[00:25:07] It usurped Micah.

[00:25:08] I know.

[00:25:09] That's probably Micah's problem here.

[00:25:10] It was, he followed up Jonah.

[00:25:13] I mean, I hate.

[00:25:14] You don't want to follow up the, the, the main, the main.

[00:25:18] The belly of the whale.

[00:25:18] No.

[00:25:19] You don't want to follow up the main ticket.

[00:25:20] No.

[00:25:21] You want to, you want to precede the main ticket.

[00:25:23] You want to open for the band.

[00:25:25] Yeah.

[00:25:25] You don't want to then close after the band.

[00:25:28] Right.

[00:25:29] No.

[00:25:29] It's just like a fizzle.

[00:25:30] Yeah.

[00:25:30] Nobody wants to be the closer.

[00:25:32] No one wants to fizzle out.

[00:25:33] No.

[00:25:33] Right.

[00:25:33] No.

[00:25:34] So anyway, that was Micah chapter two.

[00:25:36] Sure as fuck was.

[00:25:37] Which means that tomorrow we'll be back with.

[00:25:40] I don't even know what is happening.

[00:25:42] Wait.

[00:25:43] Micah chapter three.

[00:25:44] Well, hold on.

[00:25:46] Okay.

[00:25:46] I'm holding.

[00:25:46] It's the weekend.

[00:25:47] Are we, I don't know.

[00:25:48] We have to come out on a Sunday.

[00:25:50] Oh, is it?

[00:25:50] Okay.

[00:25:50] Because we're kind of off.

[00:25:52] Oh, see, like I couldn't remember what today was.

[00:25:54] And then I couldn't remember after that, when this would be coming out.

[00:25:59] We fell so far behind that I'm just trying to like start over.

[00:26:03] Yeah.

[00:26:03] We're just kind of like resetting here.

[00:26:05] Then yes, we will be back tomorrow with Micah chapter three and just pretend I never

[00:26:10] said anything else.

[00:26:11] Yeah.

[00:26:12] All right.

[00:26:12] We'll see you guys.

[00:26:13] Bye.