Micah Chapter 3: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:02:12] And the last time we were reading, we were reading Micah chapter 2.

[00:02:15] That is correct.

[00:02:17] Yes.

[00:02:17] My good sir.

[00:02:18] And in that chapter, Micah was condemning the wealthy and the powerful.

[00:02:23] And he was like, yo, you guys suck.

[00:02:26] And we were like, that's kind of cool.

[00:02:28] Because, you know, bringing the lower class up is always something that we've kind of liked,

[00:02:37] you know, in life itself and in the world itself.

[00:02:41] Yeah.

[00:02:41] And it's nice to see it reflected in the Bible.

[00:02:44] Mm-hmm.

[00:02:44] Um, but there was the bit where he was condemning the other prophets and we were like, whoa, hold

[00:02:49] on a second now.

[00:02:50] How are these people supposed to know the difference?

[00:02:53] Like this is another argument we've had throughout the Bible.

[00:02:55] Yeah.

[00:02:55] How are they supposed to know which fucking prophet to listen to?

[00:02:58] Right.

[00:02:59] Which prophet.

[00:02:59] It's never clear.

[00:03:00] Like God does not make them glow or something like, you'll know the ones because they will

[00:03:06] glow.

[00:03:06] Right.

[00:03:06] The other ones are totally false.

[00:03:08] Don't listen to those fuckers.

[00:03:09] There is no like indication that this is the correct prophet.

[00:03:12] You just have to apparently be right.

[00:03:14] And to me it's a lot like the multitude of choices between different churches that we have today.

[00:03:20] Right.

[00:03:20] Like how the fuck is anyone supposed to know that their version of God is the correct version

[00:03:25] of God?

[00:03:26] You're just supposed to pick and know.

[00:03:27] It's not like God's coming down and telling people.

[00:03:29] Nope.

[00:03:30] You just have to believe the people that taught you that it was the right thing.

[00:03:33] Whichever ones.

[00:03:34] And that seems like bullshit to me.

[00:03:36] Just get lucky and be born in the right place.

[00:03:38] Anyway, bullshit aside, we just got done with Micah chapter two.

[00:03:41] Mm-hmm.

[00:03:42] And that means that today we're getting into...

[00:03:44] Micah chapter three.

[00:03:46] All right, let's do this.

[00:03:55] And to Micah chapter three.

[00:03:57] Okay.

[00:03:59] Did you like my, let us go, my matronly voice?

[00:04:03] I, yeah, yeah, it was great.

[00:04:04] I don't know why I did it.

[00:04:05] I don't either.

[00:04:06] I never know half the reasons that you do the things you do sometimes.

[00:04:10] Well, I never know either.

[00:04:11] Like, it's as much a surprise to me as it is to you.

[00:04:14] Every episode is like, it's just like, what are we going to get from wife today?

[00:04:18] It's true.

[00:04:19] Yeah.

[00:04:19] And I'm always like, what am I, what, what's going to come out of my mouth?

[00:04:22] I don't know.

[00:04:23] Yeah.

[00:04:23] And then...

[00:04:24] It's a surprise for everybody.

[00:04:25] That matronly voice came out and I tried it on and you know what?

[00:04:28] I didn't care for it much.

[00:04:30] No.

[00:04:30] I'm not going to do that one again.

[00:04:32] Unless, unless a voice calls for it.

[00:04:34] Right.

[00:04:35] Right.

[00:04:35] Yes.

[00:04:35] Like a part.

[00:04:36] Of course.

[00:04:37] Because we've got speaking here.

[00:04:39] Sure.

[00:04:39] Starting chapter three.

[00:04:41] Okay.

[00:04:41] Then I said, but it's a dude so I can't go like this.

[00:04:45] Yeah.

[00:04:45] That wouldn't work.

[00:04:47] Okay.

[00:04:47] So Mike is speaking.

[00:04:48] Okay.

[00:04:48] Then I said, listen, you leaders of Jacob, you rulers of Israel.

[00:04:53] So he's talking to the leaders.

[00:04:55] Yeah.

[00:04:55] Okay.

[00:04:56] So the bosses.

[00:04:57] Back to talking to the powerful people.

[00:04:58] Should you not embrace justice?

[00:05:01] You who hate God and love evil, who tear the skin from my people and the flesh from their bones.

[00:05:08] Jesus.

[00:05:09] Who eat my people's flesh, strip off their skin and break their bones in pieces, who chop

[00:05:15] them up like meat for the pan, like flesh for the pot.

[00:05:19] I don't, I, this, what?

[00:05:22] What?

[00:05:22] Okay.

[00:05:22] Yeah.

[00:05:23] So.

[00:05:23] Are we literally cooking people?

[00:05:26] He's alluding to, well more than alluding, he's straight up talking about cannibalism.

[00:05:32] Yeah.

[00:05:32] But, um, I, I recall in the notes that this was just an allusion to cannibalism being symbolic

[00:05:43] for them cannibalizing God's word.

[00:05:47] Okay.

[00:05:48] But, um, when we do our Q and a, I will cover that better cause it's been like a week since

[00:05:55] I prepped this.

[00:05:56] So I just, I remember it saying it's not actually cannibalism and that it is just a

[00:06:02] just an allusion to cannibalizing something.

[00:06:05] And I believe it was God's word.

[00:06:07] But I have to, I have to interject here because to me with regard to how some of the, the literalists

[00:06:13] of the Bible, the read the Bible literally.

[00:06:16] I'm like, so they were literally cannibalizing, huh?

[00:06:19] Well, but they would attribute this to probably heathens, right?

[00:06:23] Like, so this would be something that heathens do cannibalistic behaviors, eating other humans

[00:06:27] and chopping them up in bits.

[00:06:29] Right.

[00:06:29] Yeah.

[00:06:29] So this is part of the reason that atheists and secular people and people who don't belong

[00:06:35] to their type of religion are viewed with such evilness, right?

[00:06:40] They think literally these people would eat you, eat them.

[00:06:43] Right.

[00:06:43] Like this.

[00:06:44] And it bothers me.

[00:06:45] Like, I'm like, what do you really think that shit?

[00:06:47] But you know what?

[00:06:48] If you actually read this, you would see that it's not the heathens.

[00:06:52] It's the leaders of Jacob, the rulers of Israel.

[00:06:56] Right.

[00:06:57] That are doing the eating of the people.

[00:06:59] But they wouldn't.

[00:07:00] Right.

[00:07:01] You know what I'm saying?

[00:07:02] I get it.

[00:07:03] But they're not going to, they're not going to attribute that much thought to it because

[00:07:05] they're doing things that are not within the realm of what God wants.

[00:07:09] Yeah.

[00:07:09] So they're still going to view those people as heathens.

[00:07:11] And I'm like, well, regardless of whether they're the leaders of.

[00:07:13] You can say that, but they are your people, not mine.

[00:07:16] You know?

[00:07:17] Your people are doing some weird shit over there.

[00:07:20] But here's the thing.

[00:07:20] And I don't belong to that group.

[00:07:21] By the time we get to Christianity, those people are no longer quote unquote their people.

[00:07:26] Well, they ain't my people either.

[00:07:28] You know?

[00:07:28] So like they're not exactly their people.

[00:07:30] No, and that does have that whole anti-Semitism argument of Jewish and like the goblins eating

[00:07:41] the babies and stuff.

[00:07:43] Like that's where a lot of those grotesque tropes come from.

[00:07:46] And that's all I was saying is that this.

[00:07:48] No, you're right.

[00:07:49] This visual representation of what's happening, even though it's symbolic of something else,

[00:07:55] people who are reading this literally are going to take this a different way.

[00:07:58] They're like, no cannibalism really happened.

[00:08:00] Those gross people eat people.

[00:08:02] And that's the part that bothers me.

[00:08:03] Right?

[00:08:04] Because there is this sentiment among literalists of the Bible that these evil things that they're

[00:08:10] talking about symbolically really are happening or really did happen or probably really will

[00:08:15] happen from people that don't believe in their God.

[00:08:18] Right?

[00:08:18] And that is disturbing to me.

[00:08:20] Like you really think that folks just going around eating people?

[00:08:24] But they do.

[00:08:25] I know.

[00:08:25] Right?

[00:08:26] Like I don't, I don't think that's a far stretch for us to make because I've heard people talk

[00:08:31] in similar ways about people who are not godly.

[00:08:35] No, it's true because I had also heard them, these people talking about like when they thought

[00:08:44] that like a child pedo ring was happening like in the basement of that pizzeria.

[00:08:50] Right?

[00:08:51] Right.

[00:08:51] Like, but they really legitimately thought that.

[00:08:54] Yeah.

[00:08:54] You know, like they were not fucking around.

[00:08:56] They actually believed that without a doubt.

[00:08:58] Yeah.

[00:08:59] And like, they legitimately think that people like the Clintons are part of this secret cabal

[00:09:06] who gather in the dark and eat babies.

[00:09:12] Right.

[00:09:12] Like they literally believe that.

[00:09:14] And that's why this, that's why this bothers me because they, this, the Bible is taken

[00:09:20] so many different ways.

[00:09:21] And yes, it can be interpreted a million different ways.

[00:09:24] Right?

[00:09:25] And that's fine until you get to bits where people believe this so much and take it so

[00:09:32] literally as to be absurd and then apply it to today and how they interact with people

[00:09:38] who are not part of their group.

[00:09:40] Right.

[00:09:41] And I'm like, you guys, um, I'm, I'm like friends with the people that you are accusing

[00:09:48] of eating babies.

[00:09:50] Yeah.

[00:09:50] Like, do you think I eat babies?

[00:09:53] Well, and that's, that's, that's where I would like, if I'm talking to somebody and

[00:09:56] I actually do end up, it ends up in some realm of this type of, like, the baby eating

[00:10:01] thing.

[00:10:01] Right.

[00:10:02] I'm like, so just so you're aware, you know, we've been talking this whole time.

[00:10:05] What do you think of me?

[00:10:06] And then when they tell me, I'm like, well, I don't believe in any of that stuff.

[00:10:10] So how do you, how does, how does that affect where do I, where do I fit in?

[00:10:13] Right.

[00:10:14] I love asking that question because it's just like, this is so absurd guys.

[00:10:18] You don't, you think that, I mean, you have to believe if this is the case, you have

[00:10:22] to believe that there are so many people you meet every day that are just walking around

[00:10:27] eating babies.

[00:10:28] Yeah.

[00:10:28] Like, or people or whatever.

[00:10:30] And I'm like, so do you actually think that I go home at night and I just have like a

[00:10:34] stack of babies in my basement?

[00:10:35] Weird world to live in.

[00:10:37] Right.

[00:10:37] Right.

[00:10:38] I just got this, you know, deep freezer in my basement full of extra babies.

[00:10:43] Yeah.

[00:10:43] But I'm just saying like dinner and throw it in the crock pot.

[00:10:45] But the person that believes this, that's just such an odd, weird, crazy world to believe

[00:10:52] that exists out beyond your, your household.

[00:10:55] And for them, like, that's a normal thing.

[00:10:56] Right.

[00:10:57] Well, yeah.

[00:10:57] And I'm like, that's the part that always disturbs me.

[00:11:00] Like, where do you think all of these babies come from that we collect?

[00:11:04] Right.

[00:11:05] Right.

[00:11:05] And that we collectively eat.

[00:11:07] And I know that the normal Christian doesn't believe this.

[00:11:10] No, no, no, no.

[00:11:11] I'm just saying that there is.

[00:11:13] But there's a large group of weird Christians who do believe this.

[00:11:16] That's too large for my liking.

[00:11:18] Yeah.

[00:11:18] So.

[00:11:19] And, and they're the ones that are like slowly getting into leadership positions.

[00:11:25] Right.

[00:11:25] And then that's the part that I'm like, wait a second.

[00:11:28] Let's, let's slam on the brakes here guys.

[00:11:30] Yeah.

[00:11:30] We need to, we need to stop.

[00:11:31] Yeah.

[00:11:32] When you start having like flat earthers and people who believe that there are Jewish

[00:11:37] space lasers coming down.

[00:11:39] Shit's going too far.

[00:11:39] Like, come on, come on.

[00:11:41] No, no.

[00:11:42] It's not okay.

[00:11:43] We need to start over.

[00:11:45] Y'all got to get your shit straight.

[00:11:47] We need to go back to like second grade, all of us and learn our maths and our ABCs

[00:11:52] and right.

[00:11:52] You know, the round earth and the globe.

[00:11:55] And remember when school was fun.

[00:11:57] Edumacation.

[00:11:58] Yeah.

[00:11:59] Yeah.

[00:11:59] Some of that.

[00:12:01] All right.

[00:12:01] So anyway, continuing Mike is like, then they will cry out to the Lord, but he will

[00:12:07] not answer them.

[00:12:08] You know, cause I mean, cause they're eating babies.

[00:12:11] I mean, yeah.

[00:12:12] Right.

[00:12:12] Right.

[00:12:13] At that time, he will hide his face from them because of the evil they have done.

[00:12:18] So they're going to be like God.

[00:12:19] And God's like, nah, nah.

[00:12:21] I can't imagine eating a person, a baby or anything.

[00:12:26] Right.

[00:12:26] And being like, I'm sorry, God.

[00:12:28] Like you got way too fucking far.

[00:12:30] Right.

[00:12:31] Like, this isn't like, you know, I put a tack on my teacher's chair.

[00:12:37] No, this is, I killed and ate an entire human.

[00:12:40] I'm sorry though.

[00:12:42] Yeah.

[00:12:42] God, I need help.

[00:12:43] Can you help me find my keys?

[00:12:44] Like you're.

[00:12:45] No, no, I cannot help you find your fucking keys.

[00:12:48] You cannibalistic fuck.

[00:12:50] Right.

[00:12:50] No.

[00:12:51] Yeah.

[00:12:51] Yeah.

[00:12:53] This is what the Lord says.

[00:12:55] Okay.

[00:12:55] As for the prophets who lead my people astray, they proclaim peace if they have something

[00:13:02] to eat, but prepare to wage war against anyone who refuses to feed them.

[00:13:07] Therefore, night will come over you without visions and darkness without divination.

[00:13:13] The sun will set for the prophets and the day will go dark for them.

[00:13:18] The seers will be ashamed and the diviners disgraced.

[00:13:22] They will all come in their faces because there is no answer from God.

[00:13:26] So, okay.

[00:13:27] This is what I think he's saying with regard to they proclaim peace if they have something

[00:13:32] to eat, but prepare to wage war against anyone who refuses to feed them.

[00:13:35] Right.

[00:13:36] He's talking about like fair weather friends.

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:39] No.

[00:13:39] You know, like he's saying like basically it's easy to be a fan of God and goodliness

[00:13:45] while things are easy.

[00:13:47] Right.

[00:13:47] And people are on your side and supporting you.

[00:13:49] But the second that people turn against you or things get hard, then you start waging war

[00:13:56] against them.

[00:13:57] But this takes me out of the whole.

[00:13:59] So like basically what I'm hearing here is that these prophets were okay as long as they

[00:14:04] were in good times.

[00:14:05] Right.

[00:14:05] Yeah.

[00:14:05] So like there was there was agreement and there was peace and there was there was good

[00:14:09] things happening.

[00:14:10] Right.

[00:14:10] And so all the prophets are like, yeah, we're all on the same page with regard to what's

[00:14:14] going on.

[00:14:14] Right.

[00:14:15] And then things get hard and suddenly everyone has differing opinions.

[00:14:19] Yeah.

[00:14:19] Right.

[00:14:19] Yeah.

[00:14:20] Okay.

[00:14:21] So you're telling me that God talks to these people correctly during the good times.

[00:14:28] And he's in but now that he's going to go dark on them and he's not going to talk to

[00:14:32] them when things are bad because they they choose the wrong.

[00:14:35] They choose the wrong path according to this.

[00:14:38] But if God was talking to them and telling them the correct path, then it seems to me

[00:14:44] that they would go with that.

[00:14:45] No, no, no, no.

[00:14:46] I think you're misunderstanding.

[00:14:47] Okay.

[00:14:48] God is talking to them straight through.

[00:14:50] Right.

[00:14:51] And while it's easy for them to listen to God while things are good and everything that

[00:14:56] God tells them like, yeah, God, that tracks.

[00:14:58] Thank you.

[00:14:58] Those are great words.

[00:14:59] I love that.

[00:15:00] That's easy.

[00:15:01] Yeah.

[00:15:01] Then they're like, fine, I'll totally tell God's word.

[00:15:03] But the second God asked them to do something hard or tells them hard times are coming, they

[00:15:09] change the message and start delivering false words because nobody wants to hear.

[00:15:14] Okay.

[00:15:14] Hard words.

[00:15:15] So why is God talking to prophets that are willing to change their mind?

[00:15:18] That is my question.

[00:15:20] Right.

[00:15:20] Because when I was reading the notes, I was like picking this up and I was like, hang

[00:15:25] on.

[00:15:26] So what I'm getting out of this is that there are literally false prophets.

[00:15:31] There are prophets who are hearing God's word.

[00:15:34] Right.

[00:15:34] And are spewing bullshittery instead of God's word.

[00:15:38] Right.

[00:15:39] And my understanding earlier on in the Bible, when we were talking about like, you remember

[00:15:43] those 80 prophets that kind of spoke up back when Moses was around or something like

[00:15:48] that, like they, but prophets back then were very selective.

[00:15:52] Yes.

[00:15:52] Right.

[00:15:52] It was a very intentional picking from God.

[00:15:56] Mm hmm.

[00:15:56] And, and you would think that that kind of mentality would push forward through time where God is

[00:16:02] picking the correct people.

[00:16:04] Particularly now that we have kings.

[00:16:07] Instead of priests being the leaders.

[00:16:11] Right.

[00:16:11] Otherwise prophets kind of lose some of the zing, you know?

[00:16:13] Like they're not, they're just not as meaningful if you are picking prophets as, as a God.

[00:16:18] Yeah.

[00:16:19] And those prophets end up being false prophets because they won't spread your message for you

[00:16:23] correctly.

[00:16:24] Yeah.

[00:16:24] So if they're a prophet, the people are like, oh, they're a prophet.

[00:16:28] Right.

[00:16:29] But if they spread the wrong message, how the fuck are they supposed to know that they're

[00:16:32] spreading the wrong message if they're still a prophet?

[00:16:34] Right.

[00:16:34] And that's the thing.

[00:16:35] Like, so there are a bunch of people out there all hearing God's word.

[00:16:41] They're all prophets.

[00:16:42] Right.

[00:16:43] But only some of them are telling the correct message.

[00:16:46] And again, this is all in canon based on like, there is a God talking to these people thousands

[00:16:51] of years ago.

[00:16:51] I don't really believe that there was a God talking to them.

[00:16:54] Right.

[00:16:54] But like, if that were the case, why would God allow for this at all?

[00:16:58] Exactly.

[00:16:59] Exactly.

[00:16:59] It just doesn't seem correct.

[00:17:00] No.

[00:17:01] And that's that same question.

[00:17:02] It's a persistent question we've had about how and why people should believe certain prophets.

[00:17:09] Right.

[00:17:09] See, I always thought that false prophets were people making shit up.

[00:17:14] That they never heard from God.

[00:17:15] I think that that could apply too.

[00:17:16] Right.

[00:17:16] But, but apparently.

[00:17:18] But that's not how it's described.

[00:17:19] But yeah, how it's described is that, oh no, if somebody calls themselves a prophet,

[00:17:23] they truly are hearing from God.

[00:17:26] Right.

[00:17:27] It's just a matter of what message they're spreading.

[00:17:29] At least according to this book, right?

[00:17:31] Yeah.

[00:17:32] So, yeah.

[00:17:32] And, but that's, that's part of the problem.

[00:17:35] That's happened in more than one book though.

[00:17:37] Sure.

[00:17:37] That's happened in more than one book that we've got people that are totally hearing

[00:17:41] from God, but the message that they spread is not necessarily the message that God wants

[00:17:46] them to spread.

[00:17:47] Right.

[00:17:47] Right.

[00:17:47] And that's what makes them the false prophet.

[00:17:49] And that's problematic.

[00:17:50] That's really fucking problematic.

[00:17:53] Because God is, hypothetically, God is very choosy about who he talks to.

[00:17:56] Well, and you know their heart, don't ya?

[00:17:58] Right.

[00:17:58] Yeah.

[00:17:59] You've told me that more than once, God.

[00:18:00] Not only that, but he can change their heart because he has done that before.

[00:18:04] Yes.

[00:18:04] So I'm like, what are you up to?

[00:18:06] Right.

[00:18:07] What are you doing over there, God?

[00:18:07] Why are you allowing false messages?

[00:18:10] Yeah.

[00:18:10] Why are you letting liar faces mislead people and then getting mad that the people are

[00:18:16] being misled?

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:17] Right.

[00:18:17] You're mad at the people for believing the guy that you allowed to hear your word and

[00:18:24] misspeak.

[00:18:25] Yeah.

[00:18:25] That's some bullshit.

[00:18:26] I agree.

[00:18:27] I don't blame the prophet so much as I blame God.

[00:18:30] Sure.

[00:18:31] For allowing that prophet to be a fuck.

[00:18:33] If we're going with that, yeah.

[00:18:35] Yes.

[00:18:35] Right.

[00:18:35] Right.

[00:18:36] Absolutely.

[00:18:37] Yeah.

[00:18:38] So, God sucks.

[00:18:39] God's a dick.

[00:18:40] I mean, just thought I'd put that out there.

[00:18:42] Right.

[00:18:42] You know?

[00:18:43] Alright, so anyway, Micah continues speaking for God, but as for me, I am filled with

[00:18:49] power with the spirit of the Lord.

[00:18:51] Oh no, this is Micah speaking for himself.

[00:18:52] Got it.

[00:18:53] Got it.

[00:18:53] I have power.

[00:18:54] I'm filled with the spirit of the Lord and with justice and might to declare to Jacob

[00:18:59] his transgression to Israel, his sin.

[00:19:03] Okay.

[00:19:03] He's like, I'm telling the people y'all suck.

[00:19:06] Right.

[00:19:07] Hear this, you leaders of Jacob, you rulers of Israel who despise justice and distort

[00:19:13] all that is right, who build Zion with bloodshed and Jerusalem with wickedness.

[00:19:19] Her leaders judge for a bribe.

[00:19:23] Her priests teach for a price and her prophets tell fortunes for money.

[00:19:29] I love that sentence.

[00:19:31] Yeah.

[00:19:32] That is such a good sentence.

[00:19:34] I'm going to read it again.

[00:19:35] It is.

[00:19:35] I like it too.

[00:19:35] Her leaders judge for a bribe.

[00:19:38] Her priests teach for a price and her prophets tell fortunes for money.

[00:19:44] Yet they look for the Lord's support and say, is the Lord not among us?

[00:19:48] No disaster will come upon us.

[00:19:50] Therefore, because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field.

[00:19:55] Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble.

[00:19:58] The temple hill, a mound overgrown with thickets.

[00:20:01] The fucking end.

[00:20:03] Wow.

[00:20:03] Yeah.

[00:20:04] So it's all on you, false prophets.

[00:20:06] You're causing us to all be destroyed because you are spreading false prophecies.

[00:20:12] Yeah.

[00:20:13] Not only that, but let me pull this up here.

[00:20:17] But there was a note about this being quoted again in Jeremiah.

[00:20:26] Okay.

[00:20:26] I believe.

[00:20:27] Really?

[00:20:27] Yes.

[00:20:28] A hundred years later.

[00:20:30] Oh.

[00:20:30] Yeah.

[00:20:31] Okay.

[00:20:31] Interesting.

[00:20:32] Yeah.

[00:20:34] Um, Hosea was ignored and so was Amos.

[00:20:36] The people threw Jeremiah in jail for his prophetic message of coming judgment.

[00:20:41] In contrast, King Hezekiah and the leadership of Judah listened to the prophet Micah.

[00:20:46] Now we're not really there yet.

[00:20:47] Not there yet.

[00:20:47] Yeah.

[00:20:48] Okay.

[00:20:48] He was heard and a revival followed.

[00:20:50] Then, one hundred years later, his words were still remembered and the memory of what

[00:20:55] happened earlier was used by God to spare the life of Jeremiah.

[00:21:00] Now I'm going to read Jeremiah chapter 26 verses 17 through 19 and they will very much

[00:21:07] sound a lot like what we just read.

[00:21:09] Okay.

[00:21:09] Okay.

[00:21:09] Yeah.

[00:21:10] Some of the elders of the land stepped forward and said to the entire assembly of people,

[00:21:16] Micah of Morsheth was prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah.

[00:21:21] He told all the people of Judah, this is what the Lord Almighty says.

[00:21:27] Zion will be plowed like a field.

[00:21:29] Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble.

[00:21:32] The temple hill, a mound overgrown with thickets.

[00:21:35] Did Hezekiah king of Judah or anyone else in Judah put him to death?

[00:21:40] Did not Hezekiah fear the Lord and seek his favor?

[00:21:44] And did not the Lord relent so that he did not bring the disaster he pronounced against

[00:21:49] them?

[00:21:49] We are about to bring a terrible disaster on ourselves.

[00:21:53] I see.

[00:21:54] Okay.

[00:21:55] So, and like, I do remember now reading that and that is what bought Jeremiah's life.

[00:22:01] Got it.

[00:22:02] Okay.

[00:22:02] He was quoting what we are now reading.

[00:22:05] Got it.

[00:22:06] Interesting, right?

[00:22:06] It is.

[00:22:07] It is.

[00:22:07] Yeah.

[00:22:08] So I, you know, we obviously can never go back to see how this all panned out in real

[00:22:14] time, but it is interesting because it seems like if this is like kind of a growing tome

[00:22:21] of like, you know, lore.

[00:22:23] Yes.

[00:22:25] Right?

[00:22:25] So this, this Micah character obviously was part of the, the discussions back in those

[00:22:32] times.

[00:22:32] Yeah.

[00:22:33] And, and it carried through to hold weight with leaders of this period a hundred years

[00:22:40] later.

[00:22:40] Yeah.

[00:22:41] Which is really interesting.

[00:22:42] It is.

[00:22:43] It's interesting in the regard that the, these had such sway.

[00:22:47] These, these sayings, these, these books, these texts had such sway that they were regarded

[00:22:54] in such a way that somebody could invoke it and, and change things.

[00:22:59] That is amazing to me.

[00:23:00] You know, change the way people think.

[00:23:01] Because it's not like they had like community bulletin boards or fucking Facebook.

[00:23:06] Right.

[00:23:06] You know what I mean?

[00:23:07] That makes it all the more powerful that somebody was able to, like you use the word invoke

[00:23:13] these words.

[00:23:14] Right.

[00:23:14] That somebody else had spoken a hundred years before.

[00:23:17] Yeah.

[00:23:18] No, I mean, that's really cool to hear the tie in.

[00:23:20] I appreciate that.

[00:23:21] Yeah.

[00:23:21] So that's nice.

[00:23:22] It did give us a little foreshadowing as to what maybe is going to be happening in this

[00:23:26] book.

[00:23:26] But we already knew that because we've already read some of the other fucking people in the

[00:23:32] future.

[00:23:32] If I would go back and think about it, or like if we went back and restudied it, I'm

[00:23:36] sure we could probably come up with that.

[00:23:37] But I don't recall that here and now as we're sitting here reading.

[00:23:40] Right.

[00:23:40] But I'm not giving us anything that we shouldn't already know.

[00:23:44] Right.

[00:23:45] I gotcha.

[00:23:45] I gotcha.

[00:23:45] Having already read past this.

[00:23:48] Fair enough.

[00:23:48] Fair enough.

[00:23:49] Yeah.

[00:23:49] I felt okay reading that part.

[00:23:52] Because we've already essentially covered it at some point.

[00:23:54] The time.

[00:23:56] Alright.

[00:23:56] Well that was Micah chapter 3.

[00:23:58] Sure as fuck was.

[00:23:59] And we are going to try to be back tomorrow with...

[00:24:03] Micah chapter 4.

[00:24:04] Alright.

[00:24:05] We'll see you then.

[00:24:06] Bye.