Bible Study for Atheists Weekly: Isaiah Chapters 63 - 66 plus Q&A, Wrap Up and Contradictions

[01:00:01] Before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son.

[01:00:06] I don't what who has ever heard of such things, not me, me neither.

[01:00:09] Who has ever seen such things like this, nor I've not seen it either.

[01:00:13] No, I don't think that happens.

[01:00:15] No, you can't deliver.

[01:00:17] I'm okay.

[01:00:18] Here's the thing.

[01:00:19] Here's what they don't talk about with regard to childbirth.

[01:00:23] After you deliver your child, you do have some more pains because you still have to deliver

[01:00:29] the placenta.

[01:00:30] Sure.

[01:00:31] And nobody ever talks about that.

[01:00:33] But that is a thing that happens.

[01:00:35] So you might still be experiencing some labor pains, but you don't deliver a baby before

[01:00:39] the pains.

[01:00:40] Well, you deliver a baby before those other pains, right?

[01:00:45] But you're just you definitely have pains to give birth.

[01:00:48] Right.

[01:00:49] I'm just saying, technically speaking, yes, you do have labor pains after you deliver a

[01:00:57] baby.

[01:00:58] But I understand that's not what they're talking about.

[01:01:01] I was just putting it out there that that does, you know, he's really, I don't think

[01:01:08] that's what they're talking about.

[01:01:09] That is not because I guarantee you that these folks don't even know what a fucking

[01:01:13] placenta is because they men and men do not know anything about a woman's body.

[01:01:18] Yeah.

[01:01:19] Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment?

[01:01:24] I mean, if you're God, I would think so.

[01:01:26] Yeah.

[01:01:27] But if you're men, no.

[01:01:28] Yeah, even men.

[01:01:29] I mean, like we created nations before, you know, in a day, I'm probably not a day, but

[01:01:35] like we've we've declared one in a day.

[01:01:37] We could build several houses in a day.

[01:01:39] For sure.

[01:01:40] I mean, have a tap for humanity does that.

[01:01:42] The Amish do that, you know, but I'm sure during wartime we've taken over a country and

[01:01:47] said, now it's ours.

[01:01:49] That is true.

[01:01:50] That is true.

[01:01:51] That is true.

[01:01:52] Not specifically.

[01:01:53] It was already set up.

[01:01:54] We just walked in and put down our flag.

[01:01:55] Right.

[01:01:56] Yeah.

[01:01:58] Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.

[01:02:03] Okay.

[01:02:04] What?

[01:02:05] What?

[01:02:06] She's in labor and then delivers gives birth to her children.

[01:02:09] Yeah.

[01:02:10] Okay.

[01:02:11] I don't know.

[01:02:12] Do it.

[01:02:13] We're making we're making comparisons to labor labor to the new birth of Zion here where

[01:02:19] they're you remember how they're building their cities back and they're they're creating

[01:02:23] from Bruins.

[01:02:24] Okay.

[01:02:25] I think it has to do with something along those lines.

[01:02:27] Okay.

[01:02:28] That's the only thing I can think of right now.

[01:02:29] That makes sense.

[01:02:30] Okay.

[01:02:31] Do I bring to the moment of birth and not give delivery says the Lord.

[01:02:37] Do I close up the womb when I bring to delivery says your God.

[01:02:42] No.

[01:02:43] Why?

[01:02:44] Why?

[01:02:45] What is it?

[01:02:46] What is this all about?

[01:02:47] I guess he's like I'm I'm having second thoughts here.

[01:02:52] I'm making promises and I will definitely follow through.

[01:02:56] But maybe not because he's asking about closing up the womb.

[01:02:59] No, but he's saying how am I going to do that?

[01:03:02] No, that doesn't make sense.

[01:03:03] Oh, okay.

[01:03:04] Yeah.

[01:03:05] Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad for her.

[01:03:08] Oh, you heard who love her.

[01:03:10] I mean, here's the thing.

[01:03:12] If you already love Jerusalem, you don't have to be told to be glad for her.

[01:03:18] Right.

[01:03:19] Because you would inherently be that way.

[01:03:21] Right.

[01:03:22] Like, um, like the Philadelphia Eagles, right?

[01:03:25] You don't have to tell the Philadelphians, yay, your team won a game.

[01:03:30] Yay.

[01:03:31] Celebrate.

[01:03:32] Like they already are like greasing up the polls, you know, they're already celebrating.

[01:03:37] Yeah.

[01:03:38] Rejoice greatly with her.

[01:03:40] All you who mourn over her.

[01:03:42] What?

[01:03:43] What?

[01:03:44] For you will nurse and be satisfied at her comforting breasts.

[01:03:48] This is, I don't like this.

[01:03:50] No, I don't either.

[01:03:51] I don't like the comparison to a pregnant woman.

[01:03:54] Honestly, you will drink deeply and delight in her overflowing abundance.

[01:04:01] Hmm.

[01:04:02] Okay.

[01:04:03] I mean, there are some men who like to breastfeed, I mean, I think, but he's alluding to, he's

[01:04:09] giving birth to a nation, essentially, right?

[01:04:12] Okay.

[01:04:13] So, and I just, I don't appreciate this imagery.

[01:04:15] Right.

[01:04:16] I really don't.

[01:04:17] Because it's written by men 2000 years ago.

[01:04:18] So it's obviously trash, but right, it's, it's uncomfortable for me.

[01:04:22] Right.

[01:04:23] So, I don't think it's crudish.

[01:04:24] I'm, I'm willing to put it out there.

[01:04:26] This, this one could be a me problem.

[01:04:28] Okay.

[01:04:29] Right.

[01:04:30] Right.

[01:04:31] I'm just putting it out there.

[01:04:32] For this is what the Lord says, I will extend peace to her like a river and the wealth

[01:04:38] of nations, like a flooding stream.

[01:04:41] You will nurse and be carried on her arm and dandled on her knees.

[01:04:46] Dandled, huh?

[01:04:47] Oh, I, I need to look that word up.

[01:04:50] What's dandled?

[01:04:51] Yeah.

[01:04:52] It's a verb, I guess, the way it's being used here, when you dangle something.

[01:04:56] Right.

[01:04:57] I feel like it's like, you know, when you get a kid.

[01:04:59] Diddle?

[01:05:00] No.

[01:05:01] No.

[01:05:02] Well, you like, you bounce kid on your knee or something like that.

[01:05:03] Is that dandling?

[01:05:04] I don't know.

[01:05:05] Maybe.

[01:05:06] That's the only thing I can think of.

[01:05:07] I'm, I'm so intrigued.

[01:05:08] Yeah.

[01:05:09] I got to look that up later.

[01:05:10] As a mother comforts her child, so will I comfort you and you will be comforted over Jerusalem.

[01:05:18] But only if we fear him.

[01:05:19] Right.

[01:05:20] You've got a fear.

[01:05:21] Yeah.

[01:05:22] Right.

[01:05:23] Fear.

[01:05:24] Yeah.

[01:05:25] When you see this, oh, this is, this is the end of God talking now.

[01:05:27] Oh, okay.

[01:05:28] Yeah.

[01:05:29] When you see this, your heart will rejoice and you will flourish like grass grass does flourish.

[01:05:35] It does.

[01:05:36] You got to mow that shit because it flourishes and flourishes and flourishes.

[01:05:40] It just.

[01:05:41] Although I've got a buddy who, who's got a house near us here.

[01:05:44] Yeah.

[01:05:45] And they can not get the grass to grow.

[01:05:47] The green grass grows.

[01:05:48] The green grass.

[01:05:49] Yeah.

[01:05:50] It does not grow all around.

[01:05:52] No, no, you can't get it to grow at all.

[01:05:55] That's amazing.

[01:05:56] Yeah.

[01:05:57] They've just got basically mud in their back.

[01:05:58] Well, I mean, they've got two dogs.

[01:05:59] Oh, say no more.

[01:06:00] But I mean, you know, all the grass, like they have literally no grass.

[01:06:05] Did they ever put grass seed down?

[01:06:06] Yeah.

[01:06:07] Yeah.

[01:06:08] Last year.

[01:06:09] Wow.

[01:06:10] That's interesting.

[01:06:11] Okay.

[01:06:12] Well, I don't know what to say about that.

[01:06:13] I know, right?

[01:06:14] Yeah.

[01:06:15] The hand of the Lord will be made known to his servants, but his fury will be shown to his

[01:06:18] foes.

[01:06:19] Yeah.

[01:06:20] You've said that before, bitch.

[01:06:21] See, the Lord is coming with fire and his chariots are like a whirlwind.

[01:06:27] He will bring down his anger with theory and his rebuke with flames of fire, them hell

[01:06:34] fires and wouldn't have it any other way from God.

[01:06:37] No, that was funny for with fire and with his sword, both fire and sword, the Lord will

[01:06:47] execute judgment.

[01:06:48] Hey, did you know that only you can prevent forest fires and sword fires?

[01:06:54] Okay.

[01:06:55] Well, execute judgment on all people and many will be those slain by the Lord, those who

[01:07:03] consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one who is among those

[01:07:09] who eat the flesh of pigs, rats and other unclean things, they will meet their end together

[01:07:15] with the one they follow.

[01:07:17] Damn.

[01:07:18] Hold on a second.

[01:07:19] Hold on.

[01:07:20] So they don't mean like literally following like I'm walking behind you.

[01:07:25] Right.

[01:07:26] They mean just like, I've done all the right things, but I'm friends with a pig eater.

[01:07:31] So I'm fucked.

[01:07:32] So I'm fucked.

[01:07:33] Yeah.

[01:07:34] That's why God doesn't use.

[01:07:35] He's got no, uh, no empathy, no sympathy, no give.

[01:07:39] Yeah.

[01:07:40] You are not to be friends with pig eaters.

[01:07:41] Right.

[01:07:42] Well, I'm sorry, but I like bacon.

[01:07:44] So fuck off.

[01:07:45] Do you have to know that they're a pig eater?

[01:07:47] Like, you know what I mean?

[01:07:48] Oh, that's a good question.

[01:07:49] Like if you know it.

[01:07:50] Okay.

[01:07:51] Here.

[01:07:52] How about this?

[01:07:53] Oh, I find this so offensive.

[01:07:55] One of my ex mothers in law had a relative coming over for Thanksgiving and for Thanksgiving,

[01:08:06] this mother in law always made ham and turkey.

[01:08:10] Yeah.

[01:08:11] And actually, no, it was Easter.

[01:08:13] It was Easter and because you always have an Easter ham, right?

[01:08:17] Right.

[01:08:18] Right.

[01:08:19] But this relative was Muslim and therefore could not eat.

[01:08:23] He had converted to Muslim and therefore could not eat pork.

[01:08:28] Right.

[01:08:29] And so her respectfully took a piece of ham and rubbed it all over the turkey.

[01:08:39] That's just a asshole move.

[01:08:40] Without telling him.

[01:08:41] Yeah.

[01:08:42] I wonder if God will know.

[01:08:44] Oh my God.

[01:08:45] And I was like, that's horrendous.

[01:08:48] Like, why would you do that?

[01:08:49] Yeah.

[01:08:50] I look, I am not even, I don't believe in God.

[01:08:55] I don't believe that that person would be punished for that one way or the other.

[01:09:00] But there's no reason to be disrespectful to somebody on purpose for this could be me.

[01:09:04] Even behind their back without them ever finding out, like, I knew about it and she knew about

[01:09:09] it.

[01:09:10] Right.

[01:09:11] And so I was like, well, then should ever, yeah, like, I, and to the, to this day, I cannot

[01:09:17] understand why somebody would do that.

[01:09:20] Right.

[01:09:21] Like, I'm an atheist and I would never do that to somebody.

[01:09:25] Yeah.

[01:09:26] That is just so cruel.

[01:09:27] Yeah.

[01:09:28] Anyway, whatever.

[01:09:30] So I wonder if he would be okay, you know, because he ate turkey that was tainted with

[01:09:37] pig.

[01:09:38] Right.

[01:09:39] So he could not appropriately clean himself or whatever that word is, you know, sure, sure.

[01:09:45] They will meet their end together with the one they follow declares the Lord and I, because

[01:09:51] of what they have planned and done, I'm about to come and gather the people of all nations

[01:09:56] and languages and they will come and see my glory.

[01:10:00] I don't want to see his glory.

[01:10:02] You keep your glory to yourself, God, I will set a sign among them.

[01:10:07] And I will send some of those who survive to the nations, to Tarshish, to the Libyans

[01:10:15] and Lydians, famous as archers, the Lydians were famous as archers, to Tubal and Greece

[01:10:23] and to the distant islands.

[01:10:24] You know the islands, right?

[01:10:25] Yeah.

[01:10:26] Yeah.

[01:10:27] That have not heard of my fame or seen my glory, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on a sec.

[01:10:35] Hold on.

[01:10:36] It's not what we were told.

[01:10:38] You are just now right here in this very Bible, in this verse telling me that there

[01:10:44] are people who have not heard of you, because you didn't talk to them in places that you

[01:10:50] had previously told us they had heard of you, right?

[01:10:53] So but you're admitting, yeah, they probably didn't hear of me, right?

[01:10:56] And you are going to punish them nonetheless, you motherfucker, yeah, that is some bullshit

[01:11:02] right there.

[01:11:03] It is.

[01:11:04] I'm born in Israel, right?

[01:11:06] What the fuck?

[01:11:07] Yeah.

[01:11:08] This God is trash.

[01:11:10] She really is.

[01:11:11] Really is.

[01:11:12] They will proclaim my glory among the nations.

[01:11:15] Will they?

[01:11:16] I don't know about all that.

[01:11:17] Right.

[01:11:18] Yeah.

[01:11:19] Well, no, that you talk about the people that he's sending out, right?

[01:11:20] Oh, okay.

[01:11:21] So like he was going to say the people that I'll send some of those who survived to the nation.

[01:11:24] Yeah.

[01:11:25] Yeah.

[01:11:26] Okay.

[01:11:27] They and the ones that I'm sending, they will proclaim my glory among the nations.

[01:11:30] Right.

[01:11:31] All your people from all the nations to my holy mountain in Jerusalem as an offering to

[01:11:37] the Lord.

[01:11:38] I mean, okay, some, some freak comes riding through your town, right?

[01:11:43] Like here we are in Dayton, Ohio, right?

[01:11:45] Yeah.

[01:11:46] And some freak comes riding through and is like, Hey, hey, guess what?

[01:11:50] The Lord, the Lord says, come on.

[01:11:51] Now you've heard of it.

[01:11:53] Like, I'm sorry, you're freak.

[01:11:55] Yeah.

[01:11:56] And what the fuck are you even talking about, bro?

[01:11:59] Yeah.

[01:12:00] Right?

[01:12:01] I'm sorry.

[01:12:02] I don't just trust a stranger.

[01:12:04] I live in the islands.

[01:12:06] I don't fucking know you.

[01:12:08] Well, and again, I'm going to say this again because God is all powerful, hypothetically,

[01:12:13] right?

[01:12:14] Right.

[01:12:15] Why doesn't he just go over there and show his own power and talk to them himself?

[01:12:19] Right.

[01:12:20] Like get a profit from them.

[01:12:22] Right.

[01:12:23] That would be so much more effective than sending some people over there and having send us

[01:12:28] an emissary from out of town.

[01:12:31] Right.

[01:12:32] That is bullshit.

[01:12:33] Basically the original missionaries.

[01:12:34] Yeah.

[01:12:35] And like, it's not even like we can go on the Facebook and, you know, look up their history

[01:12:41] and be like, no, this guy's definitely, he was selling leggings last week and the week

[01:12:46] before that he was selling jewelry.

[01:12:49] No, this guy is an MLM.

[01:12:51] This is a pyramid scheme.

[01:12:52] I'm not into this dude.

[01:12:54] Yeah.

[01:12:55] Like they can't even do that.

[01:12:56] Right.

[01:12:57] You're not going to be inclined to believe some dude just showing up when you've already

[01:13:00] got your own gods and you've already got your own like power structures.

[01:13:04] Like there's no reason for you to switch.

[01:13:06] What reason do I have?

[01:13:08] That's what I want to know.

[01:13:09] What's what's the or else?

[01:13:10] The only reason there ever is is war.

[01:13:12] Right.

[01:13:13] That's the only reason ever.

[01:13:14] Like this is not a good sale.

[01:13:16] No.

[01:13:17] Sales pitch.

[01:13:18] No.

[01:13:19] Your, your log line needs work, your elevator pitch is really bad, bro.

[01:13:23] Right.

[01:13:24] So they are going to come on horses in chariots and wagons and on mules and camels says the

[01:13:30] Lord.

[01:13:31] Dramataries.

[01:13:32] Yeah.

[01:13:33] Dramataries.

[01:13:34] I learned that word.

[01:13:35] Yeah.

[01:13:36] So did that.

[01:13:37] I mean, I knew it, but then I forgot it.

[01:13:38] And so then I relearned it.

[01:13:39] Right.

[01:13:40] When you learned it.

[01:13:41] Yeah.

[01:13:42] They will bring them as the Israelites bring their grain offerings to the temple of the Lord

[01:13:46] and ceremonially clean vessels.

[01:13:50] And I will select some of them also to be priests and Levites says the Lord.

[01:13:55] Wait.

[01:13:56] Now we're selecting people to be Levites.

[01:13:57] How do you?

[01:13:58] That was not how that worked.

[01:14:00] No.

[01:14:01] How do you just be like, boom, I'm a Levite now.

[01:14:04] I'm just, I thought we had ditched the whole Levite thing.

[01:14:07] Right.

[01:14:08] I thought so too.

[01:14:09] Like that was a big, that was a specific thing that happened, right?

[01:14:11] I thought.

[01:14:12] So I'm okay with them picking priests, right?

[01:14:14] Like that's understandable.

[01:14:15] Yeah.

[01:14:16] Yeah.

[01:14:17] But why do we even need to bring up the fact that they're choosing Levites?

[01:14:20] I thought Levites were hereditary.

[01:14:22] Yeah, they were.

[01:14:23] They were.

[01:14:24] It was a tribe.

[01:14:25] Yeah.

[01:14:26] And that was, that was the whole point.

[01:14:27] The tribe of Levi.

[01:14:28] They had specifically been picked for that job.

[01:14:31] Yeah.

[01:14:32] And it was to never be anything but the Levi's taking care of that.

[01:14:35] And apparently it's still kind of a thing, but now we can pick them.

[01:14:39] I don't approve of this, honestly.

[01:14:41] I think it's, yeah, there's something, something seriously wrong here.

[01:14:44] This sounds like Isaiah sounds political.

[01:14:48] You know what I mean?

[01:14:49] Isaiah sounds like, oh, this is the exact moment when you can tell, hands may have been

[01:14:55] involved before in shaping what was going on in the Bible.

[01:15:01] Right.

[01:15:02] But Isaiah is specifically where you can see firsthand, there's some shit going on here.

[01:15:07] Yeah.

[01:15:08] They are rewriting and they are just saying whatever the fuck they want.

[01:15:11] Yeah.

[01:15:12] And it's obvious because you don't choose the Levites.

[01:15:15] Right.

[01:15:17] It's like they didn't read their own text and they trusted nobody else would either.

[01:15:20] Right.

[01:15:21] Right.

[01:15:22] Well, I mean, back then that was probably a pretty safe bet.

[01:15:24] Yeah.

[01:15:25] They didn't know about the Googles.

[01:15:27] Yeah.

[01:15:28] Yeah.

[01:15:29] So he's going to pick.

[01:15:30] He's going to select some of them to be priests and Levites as the Lord as the new heavens

[01:15:37] and the new earth that I make.

[01:15:39] So many heavens, multiple heavens, singular earth that I will make in your before me.

[01:15:46] Declares the Lord.

[01:15:48] So will your name and descendants endure from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath

[01:15:55] to another.

[01:15:56] Oh, mankind will come and bow down before me says the Lord.

[01:16:02] Okay.

[01:16:03] Oh, mankind will bow down before me.

[01:16:05] What kind of freakazoid power hungry son of a bitch wants everybody to bow down before

[01:16:13] him?

[01:16:14] I mean, he's a narcissistic, you know, that's my, that's my point.

[01:16:19] Only a man in power, right, wants everybody to bow down.

[01:16:24] Like that is such a human thing, a real, a real God would not want that.

[01:16:30] Well, and it's, it's literally taking him, like we're, we're at about four to 600 BCE,

[01:16:37] right?

[01:16:38] So it's taken him like 1500 years to get to the point where he's even reaching out to

[01:16:45] sort of regional areas, right?

[01:16:48] That we're not even talking about the fucking Native Americans that are over in the United

[01:16:52] States.

[01:16:53] No, that's, that continent, that continent doesn't even exist.

[01:16:56] Right.

[01:16:57] And we're not talking about Asia, we're not talking about Japan, we're not talking about

[01:17:01] the Arctic where, you know, like up in the, up in Russia and stuff, like there's people

[01:17:06] all over the fucking places that haven't heard of this dude, but we're just now in the Bible

[01:17:12] reaching out to places that are within traveling distance, you know, like this is so, this is

[01:17:19] such a localized phenomenon at this point.

[01:17:22] It's really funny reading this because it, it tells you how small this was, you know,

[01:17:31] like it was such a small thing that just happened, right, just happened to make it out.

[01:17:37] Like it beat all the odds and it became this overarching thing or the Western world,

[01:17:44] right?

[01:17:45] Yeah.

[01:17:46] It's just, it's amazing because it is so small right now.

[01:17:49] I think that it was probably dying out like Christianity was on the out until Reagan came

[01:17:54] around and the Republican party decided to re-institute it into all of their fucking,

[01:18:02] I don't think that's quite the, that's a very, I think that Christianity

[01:18:07] could have, could have seen its way out the door.

[01:18:10] I don't know about that.

[01:18:12] I don't know about that.

[01:18:13] Well, I do know that it was not as ugly before, what is it?

[01:18:23] I forget what president it was, but there was one president who he on purpose was like,

[01:18:31] let's get all the white men to be like, let's bring religion into it and like Reagan?

[01:18:38] Was it Reagan?

[01:18:39] Probably.

[01:18:40] I thought it was somebody before him.

[01:18:41] Maybe it was like Nixon or somebody, I don't know.

[01:18:43] I don't know my presidents.

[01:18:45] I don't know.

[01:18:46] That's still in my blind spot of history.

[01:18:48] But definitely, so there's a much larger history to the ups and downs of Christianity and

[01:18:54] and religion in general.

[01:18:55] In America though, specifically what I'm talking about.

[01:18:57] Even in America, like it was very religion was very different in our found founding fathers

[01:19:03] and it is, you know, later on and there's been a lot of changes over time, you know.

[01:19:08] And so it's unfair to say that it all happened with Reagan because there was a lot of things

[01:19:13] that led to where we are now.

[01:19:15] No, I know that.

[01:19:16] But you aren't wrong in saying that it has found a new like it is found a new foothold with

[01:19:24] regard to.

[01:19:25] I think it's more directed at political power now because they're using religion as a weapon.

[01:19:32] Yes, that's what I do.

[01:19:34] To control the masses, to allow us to, to allow them to misdirect while they do things that

[01:19:40] they want to do.

[01:19:41] They're using religion to misdirect what we're looking at and what we care about while they

[01:19:46] do other things that we should be caring about.

[01:19:48] Because by all rights, there is no way that Christians should have anything to do with somebody

[01:19:55] like Trump.

[01:19:56] Yeah.

[01:19:57] 100%.

[01:19:58] I mean, the fact dude is so not religious at all and couldn't give a fucking fact.

[01:20:02] He probably thinks he is God.

[01:20:04] Yeah.

[01:20:05] Well, he thinks he's persecuted like Jesus and they agree.

[01:20:08] Right.

[01:20:09] So, I mean, that's weird.

[01:20:10] He says shit up.

[01:20:11] Yeah.

[01:20:12] Yeah.

[01:20:13] Yeah.

[01:20:14] Okay.

[01:20:15] So carrying on with what the Lord's saying and they will go out and look on the dead bodies

[01:20:20] of those who rebelled against me.

[01:20:23] Wow.

[01:20:24] Yeah.

[01:20:25] Yeah.

[01:20:26] Yeah.

[01:20:27] The worms that will eat them will not die.

[01:20:30] The fire that burns them will not be quenched and they will be loathsome to all mankind.

[01:20:38] Not only do I want to kill them.

[01:20:40] Yeah.

[01:20:41] I want to kill them horribly.

[01:20:42] Right.

[01:20:43] I want them to suffer for all eternity.

[01:20:45] Right.

[01:20:46] I want them to die so badly.

[01:20:47] Yeah.

[01:20:48] That no one else would want to die that way because again, fear, I need you to fear.

[01:20:53] Fear me.

[01:20:54] Right.

[01:20:55] So, I'm going to literally eternally torture people.

[01:20:58] Yeah.

[01:20:59] Yeah.

[01:21:00] So, here we go.

[01:21:01] Not the devil.

[01:21:02] That's not Satan doing that.

[01:21:03] Right.

[01:21:04] That's not the devil doing that.

[01:21:05] That's God.

[01:21:06] God wants to punish them.

[01:21:07] Yes.

[01:21:08] Yes.

[01:21:09] Well, I did have somebody once tell me that they wanted to, they wished I was dead and

[01:21:14] that they would burn, no, they would roast marshmallows over my burning body.

[01:21:20] Yeah.

[01:21:21] And that was even a Facebook post.

[01:21:23] Yeah.

[01:21:24] It's amazing.

[01:21:25] Personally, not just like his wife, like that was a person who knows me personally said

[01:21:31] that on Facebook about me and tell me.

[01:21:34] Yeah.

[01:21:35] That's good times.

[01:21:36] Yeah.

[01:21:37] So.

[01:21:38] So, they also have a God complex, I think.

[01:21:40] They have something.

[01:21:42] Yeah.

[01:21:43] Anyway, so that was Isaiah chapter 66, which means that we have finished Isaiah.

[01:21:51] You guys, give yourselves right now a pat on the back and a round of applause because

[01:21:57] if you have been listening to this book with us, you have completed all 66 chapters of

[01:22:03] the book of Isaiah.

[01:22:04] And that is an accomplishment.

[01:22:06] It really is.

[01:22:07] It really is.

[01:22:08] I am elated myself actually.

[01:22:09] I am super excited.

[01:22:11] Like, I don't even know if Jeremiah's good or not.

[01:22:15] I don't know what's happening.

[01:22:16] I don't know what's coming up.

[01:22:18] I'm just so glad to be done with this one.

[01:22:19] Yeah.

[01:22:20] I mean, I think that's how we feel a lot of the time when we get done with one of the

[01:22:23] books.

[01:22:24] You know what?

[01:22:25] It's always how we feel.

[01:22:26] Yeah.

[01:22:27] Yeah.

[01:22:28] So, even though we're done, we're not quite done.

[01:22:30] We're done with the chapters and the readings.

[01:22:32] Right.

[01:22:33] So, what do we have coming up here in the next couple of days?

[01:22:35] Okay.

[01:22:36] So, we've got a wrap up where we talk about the book of Isaiah as a whole and answer any unanswered

[01:22:43] questions that we had, like, what the fuck is dandel?

[01:22:46] Yeah.

[01:22:47] Shit like that.

[01:22:49] I don't have any interesting things that come up in my research, any rabbit holes that

[01:22:53] I want to address.

[01:22:54] Okay.

[01:22:55] So, there's the wrap up.

[01:22:57] Yeah.

[01:22:58] And then after that, a separate episode will be contradiction in which we play your always

[01:23:03] wrong.

[01:23:04] I love that because I'm so right.

[01:23:06] No, you're wrong.

[01:23:07] Right.

[01:23:08] The whole point of the game is that you're wrong based on the fact that it's contradiction.

[01:23:13] I know.

[01:23:14] I just like giving you a hard time.

[01:23:15] Okay.

[01:23:16] Yeah.

[01:23:18] After that, we will start Jeremiah probably on Monday.

[01:23:21] Okay.

[01:23:22] So.

[01:23:23] Yeah.

[01:23:24] Was it Jeremiah?

[01:23:25] Yeah.

[01:23:26] He was a bullfrog.

[01:23:27] Oh, Jeremiah.

[01:23:28] Yeah.

[01:23:29] That's right.

[01:23:30] That's right.

[01:23:31] I'm sorry.

[01:23:32] He was also a prophet.

[01:23:33] Apparently that's how the song originally was supposed to go.

[01:23:35] Sure.

[01:23:36] But they thought that sounded stupid.

[01:23:37] So, they changed it to bullfrog.

[01:23:38] You're talking about the song.

[01:23:40] Yeah.

[01:23:41] Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

[01:23:43] Yeah.

[01:23:44] And a good friend of mine.

[01:23:46] Right.

[01:23:47] Right.

[01:23:48] All right.

[01:23:49] Well, that was Isaiah chapter 66.

[01:23:51] Sure.

[01:23:52] As fuck was.

[01:23:54] And we will be back tomorrow with our wrap up of Isaiah.

[01:23:58] Peace out, bitches.

[01:24:00] See you then.

[01:24:05] Husband.

[01:24:06] Wife.

[01:24:07] Do you know what we're doing?

[01:24:10] Well, word on the street is that you found the rabbit hole in what we just read.

[01:24:15] So like the last few chapters.

[01:24:17] So we decided that we're doing a Q&A.

[01:24:21] Not on Saturday because it's on Friday instead.

[01:24:25] Yeah.

[01:24:26] So that means that our order of how this is going to work is that on today, Friday, we're going to be doing a Q&A.

[01:24:35] On Saturday, we're going to be doing our.

[01:24:38] Um, wrap up.

[01:24:39] Our wrap up for Isaiah.

[01:24:41] That's why Isaiah.

[01:24:42] And then on Sunday, we're going to skip the book club this week.

[01:24:46] And we're going to be doing our.

[01:24:48] You're always wrong.

[01:24:50] Or rather contradictions episode.

[01:24:52] Yeah.

[01:24:53] Yeah.

[01:24:54] And so that's how this is going to work this week.

[01:24:56] Yeah.

[01:24:57] I had every intention of just going straight through the Q&A to the wrap up.

[01:25:04] Like doing it all as one type of.

[01:25:06] Yeah.

[01:25:07] I mean, it's only fucking four chapters.

[01:25:09] Right.

[01:25:10] Right.

[01:25:11] Yeah.

[01:25:12] And it's the four final chapters, whatever.

[01:25:14] But this last chapter.

[01:25:16] Yeah.

[01:25:17] That's mainly what I'm covering today in the Q&A.

[01:25:20] Got it.

[01:25:21] Okay.

[01:25:22] So you ready to do this?

[01:25:23] I am.

[01:25:24] All right.

[01:25:25] Let's do it.

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[01:26:43] Ok.

[01:26:44] So remember just before the break just then when I said we're mainly going to cover

[01:26:49] Chapter 66 of Isaiah.

[01:26:50] I do.

[01:26:51] I remember that.

[01:26:52] Ok.

[01:26:53] So actually we're only going to cover Chapter 66 of Isaiah.

[01:26:55] Ok.

[01:26:56] Well I just like rechecked my notes to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

[01:26:59] Sure.

[01:27:00] Sure.

[01:27:01] And pretty much everything that needed to be said like that the unclean cloths were like

[01:27:08] menstrual cloths.

[01:27:09] Yeah.

[01:27:10] Stuff like that.

[01:27:11] We got all.

[01:27:12] Yeah.

[01:27:13] Like destiny and fortune were goddesses.

[01:27:15] Ok.

[01:27:16] You know what I mean?

[01:27:17] Sure.

[01:27:18] So we didn't have to really Q&A those.

[01:27:20] Ok.

[01:27:21] Ok.

[01:27:22] But 66 has a lot to unpack.

[01:27:24] Got it.

[01:27:25] Ok.

[01:27:26] So Chapter 66 is the Lord's Judgments and Zion's Future Hope.

[01:27:32] Sure.

[01:27:33] Ok.

[01:27:34] And this chapter contains an oracle delivered after the temple in Jerusalem had been rebuilt following

[01:27:40] the Jewish peoples return from exile.

[01:27:42] Right.

[01:27:44] And warns against an unduly materialistic approach to the worship of God.

[01:27:49] Ok.

[01:27:50] Ok.

[01:27:51] Yep.

[01:27:52] We kind of got that in the reading of it I think.

[01:27:54] Yeah.

[01:27:55] Yeah.

[01:27:56] Like the empty ritualistic stuff.

[01:27:58] Right.

[01:27:59] Yeah.

[01:28:00] Right.

[01:28:01] So in the beginner beginning of the chapter that part contains the rebuke to ecclesiasticism.

[01:28:12] And I was like ok I've heard of ecclesiastes.

[01:28:15] Right.

[01:28:16] But what is ecclesiasticism?

[01:28:18] Right.

[01:28:19] Right.

[01:28:20] Yes.

[01:28:21] It's an exaggerated attachment to the practices or principles of religion and as such building

[01:28:27] human walls around God thereby breeding unreality and intolerance.

[01:28:33] Interesting.

[01:28:34] Yeah.

[01:28:35] I kind of like that term actually.

[01:28:37] Right.

[01:28:38] Because it's very relevant to today I feel.

[01:28:40] Yes.

[01:28:41] So that's very interesting.

[01:28:43] It to me is a lot to do with evangelicalism.

[01:28:47] Right.

[01:28:48] Right.

[01:28:49] You know charismatic preachers kind of thing.

[01:28:52] Yes.

[01:28:53] Right.

[01:28:54] All of those.

[01:28:55] Yeah.

[01:28:56] All of those terms kind of go together.

[01:28:57] Sure.

[01:28:58] Yeah.

[01:28:59] So yeah I wanted to include that because I really appreciate that term.

[01:29:02] Yeah.

[01:29:03] Ok.

[01:29:04] So next we get into let's talk about verse three.

[01:29:07] Ok.

[01:29:08] Verse three goes.

[01:29:09] But whoever sacrifices a bull is like one who kills a person and whoever offers a lamb is

[01:29:15] like one who breaks a dog's neck.

[01:29:17] Yeah.

[01:29:18] Whoever makes a grain offering is like one who presents pigs blood and whoever burns memorial

[01:29:23] incense is like one who worships an idol.

[01:29:25] They have chosen their own ways and they delight in their abominations.

[01:29:29] Yeah.

[01:29:30] And I was kind of confused because it's similar things that they do for God so.

[01:29:34] Similar but not the same.

[01:29:36] Sure.

[01:29:37] The Jerusalem Bible describes this verse and another one that I'll get to momentarily as

[01:29:44] a fragment condemning pagan mysteries.

[01:29:47] Ok.

[01:29:48] Ok.

[01:29:49] Ok.

[01:29:50] So again similar but not the same.

[01:29:52] Sure.

[01:29:53] Ok.

[01:29:54] So I guess if you're in the business of sacrificing animals to gods you would know better as

[01:30:00] to which sacrificing is the correct sacrificing which obviously since we don't do any of

[01:30:05] that shit.

[01:30:06] Right.

[01:30:07] We don't know.

[01:30:08] But moreover not only do you need to be worshipping correctly you need to also be worshipping for

[01:30:17] the right reasons.

[01:30:18] Sure.

[01:30:19] And not just going through the motions.

[01:30:20] Right.

[01:30:21] Right.

[01:30:22] So if those are two separate things and those are both addressed.

[01:30:24] Ok.

[01:30:25] And a lot of people were either going through the motions according to Isaiah.

[01:30:29] Yeah.

[01:30:30] Going through the motions or were pretending that it was for one God while they were actually

[01:30:36] doing it for a pagan God.

[01:30:39] Got it.

[01:30:40] But we could also say that some people were trying to start combining these religions into

[01:30:48] one.

[01:30:49] Well and that happened even in like that still happened.

[01:30:53] Yes.

[01:30:54] Regardless.

[01:30:55] Yes.

[01:30:56] Like it's still something that happened when they've like Christianity does incorporate

[01:30:59] pagan.

[01:31:00] Yes.

[01:31:01] So.

[01:31:02] Right.

[01:31:03] It didn't ever fully rectify.

[01:31:05] It never pulled away from that it nearly adopted and adapted.

[01:31:09] Sure.

[01:31:10] And just changed its tune depending on what was convenient at the day.

[01:31:14] Right.

[01:31:15] Right.

[01:31:16] So let's move on to verse 12.

[01:31:19] Ok.

[01:31:20] You will nurse and be carried on her arm and dandled on her knees.

[01:31:24] Remember we had a question about what the fuck is dandling.

[01:31:27] Yeah.

[01:31:28] How does one dandle?

[01:31:29] Right.

[01:31:30] We had it exactly right.

[01:31:32] I mean based on context it means to move something such as a baby or young child up

[01:31:37] and down in a playful or affectionate way like bouncing them on your knees.

[01:31:40] I mean that's just what it sounded like to me.

[01:31:43] It did but you can never take things for granted.

[01:31:45] That is true.

[01:31:46] That is true.

[01:31:47] And it also sounded really close to diddle.

[01:31:49] And it just made me need to look it up just to make sure.

[01:31:54] Sure.

[01:31:55] So verse 17 was the other one that the Jerusalem Bible describes as a fragment condemning pagan

[01:32:01] mysteries.

[01:32:02] Ok.

[01:32:03] And that reads those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens following one

[01:32:07] who is among those who eat the flesh of pigs rats and other unclean things.

[01:32:12] Right.

[01:32:13] So that was the other one.

[01:32:14] Ok.

[01:32:15] Ok.

[01:32:16] Yeah.

[01:32:17] So let's move on to verse 19.

[01:32:17] And I will set a sign among them and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations

[01:32:24] to Karshish, Lydia, and Ludd that draw the bow, to Tubal and Javon, to the aisles afar

[01:32:32] off.

[01:32:33] Right.

[01:32:34] Now, I may have read that differently from the way I read it in yesterday's.

[01:32:38] Yeah.

[01:32:39] Because these different places are going to be names differently depending on which translation

[01:32:45] you're reading.

[01:32:46] Sure.

[01:32:47] The one that we were reading went straight to the interpretation that is readable.

[01:32:51] Right.

[01:32:52] Yeah.

[01:32:53] The ones that are listed in this verse are distant outposts of the world known to Israel

[01:33:00] at that time, which we commented on specifically.

[01:33:05] So Tarshish, which was a place that I mentioned in yesterday's and today's.

[01:33:11] Yeah.

[01:33:12] That is Spain, France, and Italy.

[01:33:14] Ok.

[01:33:15] So that extended further than I thought actually.

[01:33:18] Sure.

[01:33:19] Yeah.

[01:33:20] And the region in Africa, Ludd is Libya, which yesterday we read Libya.

[01:33:26] Because I remember it was the Libyans.

[01:33:28] Yeah.

[01:33:29] And, but in this translation, the King James, I believe it says Ludd.

[01:33:34] Got it.

[01:33:35] But what they mean by that is Libya.

[01:33:36] So now we know.

[01:33:37] Ok.

[01:33:38] Tubal was one of the early guys from way back.

[01:33:42] Sure.

[01:33:44] His tribe settled in the northeastern of Europe or Russia.

[01:33:49] Oh, wow.

[01:33:50] So that's that area, which again, that's even further.

[01:33:53] Yeah, right.

[01:33:54] Further appealed.

[01:33:55] Yep.

[01:33:56] The one that we read yesterday said Greece, the one in today's that I just read.

[01:34:02] Yeah.

[01:34:03] The King James says Javan, which is a Greek name for Greece.

[01:34:08] Got it.

[01:34:09] So there you go.

[01:34:10] Ok.

[01:34:11] Ok.

[01:34:12] So that's the whole world, according to Israel at that time.

[01:34:16] That's the whole fucking world.

[01:34:18] So when God said the whole world, exactly.

[01:34:22] So when God was seeing the whole world, that's the only bit of the world he knew.

[01:34:26] Got it.

[01:34:27] Yep.

[01:34:28] Ok.

[01:34:29] So we're going to move on to verse 21.

[01:34:32] And I have a little bit to say about this.

[01:34:34] Ok.

[01:34:35] Ok.

[01:34:36] Verse 21 says, and I will select some of them also to be priests and Levites.

[01:34:40] Yes.

[01:34:41] And we had a problem with that because we were like, wait a minute.

[01:34:44] Yeah.

[01:34:45] What was our question about the Levites?

[01:34:46] Well, they're supposed to be from the tribe of Levite.

[01:34:50] Levite.

[01:34:51] Right.

[01:34:52] So that's, you can't select people into a tribe.

[01:34:54] Right.

[01:34:55] So apparently that was a very good question that we had.

[01:35:00] And it depends on which school of thought that you're in.

[01:35:04] Remember, when we first started reading the Bible and the Torah specifically.

[01:35:10] And we learned about all the different, like the Deuteronomist and the P ones and the

[01:35:18] J ones and all that.

[01:35:20] Right.

[01:35:21] Ok.

[01:35:22] So this gets into which author you think that some of this stuff falls under.

[01:35:27] Ok.

[01:35:28] Ok.

[01:35:29] So some scholars proposed that those parts of the Torah attributed to the Elohist.

[01:35:36] Yeah.

[01:35:37] Those were the ones that, like, were leaning towards Elohim as opposed to the Yalwist.

[01:35:43] Right.

[01:35:44] Right.

[01:35:45] That was very early in the Bible.

[01:35:46] Very.

[01:35:47] That was based on Genesis mostly.

[01:35:48] Yeah.

[01:35:49] Yeah.

[01:35:50] They seem to treat Levite as a descriptive attribute for someone particularly suited to

[01:35:55] the priesthood.

[01:35:56] Ok.

[01:35:57] Rather than as a firm designation of a tribe and believe that Moses and Aaron are being portrayed

[01:36:03] as part of the Joseph group, rather than being part of a tribe called Levite.

[01:36:08] Huh.

[01:36:09] So that's interesting.

[01:36:10] Yeah.

[01:36:11] I have a little bit more on that.

[01:36:13] Yalwist passages have more, and that was the ones that we called the J guys or whatever.

[01:36:19] Yeah.

[01:36:20] I can't remember the word that we use.

[01:36:21] Sure.

[01:36:22] They have more ambiguous language traditionally interpreted as referring to a person named Levite.

[01:36:30] They could also be interpreted as just referring to a social position titled Levi.

[01:36:36] Ok.

[01:36:37] And then the priestly source, the P documents, remember, which critical scholars view as originating

[01:36:45] centuries later, portray the Levites firmly established as a tribe, paired the end, and as

[01:36:51] the only tribe with the right to become priests.

[01:36:53] Right.

[01:36:54] And that was the majority of what we read.

[01:36:56] Yes.

[01:36:57] You know, somewhat.

[01:36:58] At least with like, they were very adamant about.

[01:37:02] They were adamant.

[01:37:03] Yes.

[01:37:04] And, and that's what we got stuck with.

[01:37:07] Sure.

[01:37:08] That's they put that in our head and we thought that that was the way it was.

[01:37:12] Yeah.

[01:37:13] And that was written several centuries after the earlier parts.

[01:37:18] Got it.

[01:37:19] So it depends on who's leading what and interpreting the way at that time.

[01:37:23] It was important that Levi be a tribe.

[01:37:26] Now where we're at in Isaiah, it's like, now it was just a position.

[01:37:30] What else?

[01:37:31] Right.

[01:37:32] Okay.

[01:37:33] So many scholars hold that it is very likely that priestly groups such as the Levites existed

[01:37:38] during the first temple period since the existence of cultic groups of that kind were very common

[01:37:46] within the ancient Near East.

[01:37:49] Okay.

[01:37:50] So it was likely that it was just you were chosen to that position because it that was

[01:37:56] a cult.

[01:37:57] Okay.

[01:37:58] Okay.

[01:37:59] Sure.

[01:38:00] So we had a very good question, which I always appreciate that.

[01:38:04] Okay.

[01:38:05] So we were paying good attention.

[01:38:06] Right.

[01:38:07] Yeah.

[01:38:08] Yeah.

[01:38:09] Moving on to verse 24.

[01:38:13] And they will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me, the worms

[01:38:19] that will eat them will not die.

[01:38:21] The fire that burns them will not be quenched and they will be loathsome to all mankind.

[01:38:27] Right.

[01:38:28] There was lots of like fire and shit and that and the interpretation that we read.

[01:38:33] This is virtually the only passage to speak of lasting judgment and comparable to hell.

[01:38:40] Yeah.

[01:38:41] And we commented on that at the time.

[01:38:42] We did.

[01:38:43] Yeah.

[01:38:44] So I found that interesting.

[01:38:45] Yeah.

[01:38:46] Okay.

[01:38:47] So this is the majority of chapter 66 as a whole, but then I found a rabbit hole.

[01:38:54] Okay.

[01:38:55] And I had to talk about it.

[01:38:57] Do you remember when we were saying that the whole sending out and bringing back of people

[01:39:04] was very like, Oh, those were like the first missionaries?

[01:39:08] Yes.

[01:39:09] Yes.

[01:39:10] Okay.

[01:39:11] There was this guy.

[01:39:16] Sometimes I will read from a Christian perspective just to try to like compare and contrast and

[01:39:23] you know, because I'm trying to do my due diligence and stuff.

[01:39:26] Right.

[01:39:27] Right.

[01:39:28] So he was talking about this group that that claims to be from descended from directly

[01:39:37] from the tribe of Manasseh.

[01:39:39] Okay.

[01:39:40] And I was like, what?

[01:39:43] So I had to read up on that.

[01:39:45] Okay.

[01:39:46] Sure.

[01:39:47] Because he was selling this as, okay, let me just read this as part of God's ultimate work

[01:39:53] as the missionaries go out, the people of Israel ultimately come back in a magnificent

[01:39:58] re-gathering.

[01:39:59] Right.

[01:40:00] Yeah.

[01:40:01] That, you know, the missionaries go out and then more and more people come in and Israel

[01:40:05] and all the Jews get back together.

[01:40:07] And it's just a great party.

[01:40:08] Sure.

[01:40:09] And Israel is rebuilt and wonderful.

[01:40:12] And then, you know, according to the Christians, Christ comes back and it's just, it's a whole

[01:40:16] party.

[01:40:17] Yeah.

[01:40:18] Okay.

[01:40:19] So this guy says, this is partially fulfilled now in Israel's re-gathered state, which, okay,

[01:40:25] I see why you would say that.

[01:40:27] Right.

[01:40:28] In 1951, there was supposedly remarkable example of modern day re-gathering.

[01:40:37] This, this is the group that I was like, excuse me, what?

[01:40:41] Right.

[01:40:42] Okay.

[01:40:43] The Benai Manash or Children of Manasa, known as the Xing Lung in India, is a community

[01:40:51] of Indian Jews from various Tobetto Burmese ethnic groups from the border of India and

[01:40:58] Burma who claim descent from one of the lost tribes of Israel.

[01:41:02] And some of them have adopted Judaism.

[01:41:06] The community has around 10,000 members.

[01:41:09] The movement began in 1951 when a tribal leader reported having a dream that his people's

[01:41:17] ancient homeland was Israel.

[01:41:19] Yeah.

[01:41:20] He just had this dream.

[01:41:22] Okay.

[01:41:23] So some tribal members began embracing the idea that they were Jews after that.

[01:41:28] Okay.

[01:41:29] Yeah.

[01:41:30] Before the movement start, the community was largely a Christian one.

[01:41:33] Okay.

[01:41:34] Okay.

[01:41:35] So many Rabbi Ali, Ali Yahoo, Avicale, named these people the Benai Manash based on their

[01:41:44] account of descent from Manasa.

[01:41:46] Okay.

[01:41:47] And they did like all this research and they were able to name so many family members, like

[01:41:52] all the way back and like an ancestry.com kind of chart thing or whatever.

[01:41:57] Yeah.

[01:41:58] And it seemed totally legit and so like, okay, sounds legit.

[01:42:03] Okay.

[01:42:04] Really cool.

[01:42:05] Right.

[01:42:06] Come on in, right?

[01:42:07] Sure.

[01:42:08] Come back to Israel.

[01:42:09] And some did.

[01:42:10] Sure.

[01:42:11] Okay.

[01:42:12] However, and I wrote, however, in like all caps and bold period in 2003.

[01:42:17] So I mean, this is like somewhat recent and still going.

[01:42:22] Okay.

[01:42:23] Okay.

[01:42:24] In 2003, DNA testing of several hundred male community members did not yield conclusive

[01:42:30] evidence of Middle Eastern ancestry.

[01:42:33] According to a scholar involved with the project, researchers found no genetic evidence of Middle

[01:42:39] Eastern ancestry for the men.

[01:42:41] And they tested like 350 men or somewhere there about.

[01:42:44] Sure.

[01:42:45] Okay.

[01:42:46] Now I did write a note.

[01:42:47] The study has not been published in a peer reviewed journal and that's very important because

[01:42:53] peer review is how the scientific process works.

[01:42:58] Sure.

[01:42:59] They claim and they make it boldly by publishing and then other scientists come behind or researchers

[01:43:06] come behind and, you know, add their two cents.

[01:43:11] Right.

[01:43:12] So, you know, that's, that's what we got.

[01:43:14] Okay.

[01:43:15] Yeah.

[01:43:16] So it's not been peer reviewed.

[01:43:17] However, you know, people have spoke up about it.

[01:43:20] Right.

[01:43:21] And they're like, I don't think so guys.

[01:43:22] Right.

[01:43:23] So in 2004, so the very next year, Kolkata's central forensic science laboratory posted

[01:43:29] a paper at genome biology on the internet.

[01:43:33] And this also has not been peer reviewed.

[01:43:36] Okay.

[01:43:37] They tested a total of 414 people from the tribal communities and they found no evidence

[01:43:43] among the men indicating Middle Eastern origin.

[01:43:47] Okay.

[01:43:48] So it's sounding very likely that there's no connection.

[01:43:50] Correct.

[01:43:51] Okay.

[01:43:52] So going somewhere with this, I promise, okay.

[01:43:55] And this will tie into exactly what's happening today.

[01:43:59] And that's why I had to include it.

[01:44:01] Okay.

[01:44:02] Okay.

[01:44:03] So the results rather indicated the tribe were distinctly East and Southeast Asian in origin.

[01:44:10] Okay.

[01:44:11] Okay.

[01:44:12] In 2005, a Kolkata based study found evidence of a maternity descended near Eastern ancestry,

[01:44:21] but suggested the findings were an artifact of thousands of years of intermarriage between

[01:44:26] peoples of the near and Middle East.

[01:44:29] So I mean, we're talking three different studies at this point that are all like, nah, right.

[01:44:35] I mean, again, none of them are peer reviewed, but dot, dot, dot, okay, well, let's not, let's

[01:44:41] not put all our hopes and prayers in this.

[01:44:44] Okay.

[01:44:45] So in the early 21st century.

[01:44:47] So that would be early 2000s, which is where we are, um, Israel halted immigration by the

[01:44:55] benign menash because they had invited them.

[01:44:58] They were like, come on in, y'all come back to Israel, this is awesome.

[01:45:02] You know, we want everybody who is even a little bit Jewish to get on over here because

[01:45:08] we got that second coming thing or what the fuck ever, you know, depending if you're Jewish

[01:45:13] or Christian, but it's a party in Israel.

[01:45:15] Sure.

[01:45:16] Okay.

[01:45:17] In early 2000, um, Israel halted immigration by the benign menash, but after a change in

[01:45:23] government, the immigration was allowed again.

[01:45:26] Okay.

[01:45:27] The chief rabbi of Israel ruled in 2005 that the benign, benign menash, benign menash, I

[01:45:36] keep pronouncing it just every time I'm sorry, we're recognized as part of a lost tribe.

[01:45:42] Okay.

[01:45:43] In spite of evidence to the contrary.

[01:45:44] Right.

[01:45:45] Right.

[01:45:46] Again, all caps and bold.

[01:45:48] However, period, and this is where shit got real for me.

[01:45:52] Okay.

[01:45:53] I'm wrapping it up and I'm bringing it back around.

[01:45:56] There's this awesome social scientist called Dr. Lev Grinberg.

[01:46:01] He's a director of the Humphrey Institute for Social Research at the Ben Gurion University

[01:46:07] of the Negev Israel.

[01:46:09] Okay.

[01:46:10] He's also well renowned in his field and I was like reading all up on him and I'm kind

[01:46:15] of in love with him now.

[01:46:17] And I want to learn everything about him.

[01:46:19] Okay.

[01:46:20] He commented that quote, right wing Jewish groups wanted such conversions of distant

[01:46:28] people to boost the population in areas disputed by the don't, don't, don Palestinians.

[01:46:37] Wow.

[01:46:38] Okay.

[01:46:39] Right.

[01:46:40] Yeah.

[01:46:41] Right.

[01:46:42] So that's where it stands today.

[01:46:44] I see.

[01:46:45] So that's, that's a large part of the response that's what's happening with the, um, the settlements

[01:46:51] and things like that.

[01:46:52] They're, they're a large part of those settlements and things.

[01:46:55] Some of them.

[01:46:56] Yes.

[01:46:57] Got it.

[01:46:58] Yes.

[01:46:59] Got it.

[01:47:00] Yeah.

[01:47:01] That pretty much was like it blew my mind.

[01:47:02] Yeah.

[01:47:03] And I, I was blown away because this is thousands of years ago, there were these tribes, right?

[01:47:10] And then today we are impacted by, did those tribes exist and let's at least pretend that

[01:47:19] they do so that we can take these people's land and so that we can create this whole religious

[01:47:27] autocracy thing, this whole fascist world takeover thing in Israel and, you know, whatever.

[01:47:36] And the fact that our, our country is impacted by this, like that's crazy to me today.

[01:47:44] This is happening today.

[01:47:46] Yeah.

[01:47:47] So I had to go down that rabbit hole once I read all that.

[01:47:50] Well, that's good information.

[01:47:52] Right.

[01:47:53] Yeah.

[01:47:54] Right.

[01:47:55] And relevant to today.

[01:47:56] Yes.

[01:47:57] Yeah.

[01:47:58] Yeah.

[01:47:59] Yeah.

[01:48:00] That is definitely, definitely interesting, interesting and inflammatory, right, um, mind-blowing, mind-blowing

[01:48:06] mind-boggling.

[01:48:07] Like, and, and you know what, here's, here's the hard part, like part of me really, really

[01:48:13] wanted these people to be legit descendants from the tribe of Manasseh because think about

[01:48:20] the historical impact, right?

[01:48:22] Sure.

[01:48:23] Think about how amazing that is that if you could trace your family heritage all the way

[01:48:29] back that far to a tribe that existed in the Torah.

[01:48:36] Right.

[01:48:37] Think about that.

[01:48:38] Like, just, just from a literary and historical, like if I'm not living on this planet and I'm

[01:48:43] just reading a book about it, right?

[01:48:45] Think of how awesome that would be.

[01:48:49] The researcher in me, the objective researcher that's uninvolved in this planet really just

[01:48:55] was wowed out at the prospect.

[01:48:58] There is a slight question I have about that and that's that, I mean, if we really

[01:49:02] take this at, at some level, we all descended from the same groups of people according to

[01:49:09] the, especially according to the Bible.

[01:49:10] Right.

[01:49:11] Right.

[01:49:12] Right.

[01:49:13] Of course.

[01:49:14] So the fact that Israel at all distinguishes between this person and that person seems a

[01:49:18] little xenophobic to me.

[01:49:20] No, totally.

[01:49:21] You know, like, if they want to be, you know, Israelites, if they want to, if they want

[01:49:25] to join, you know, Judaism, shouldn't they just welcome them and regardless of ancestry

[01:49:31] or whatever, right?

[01:49:32] Well, and they did.

[01:49:33] They did after some back and forth.

[01:49:36] Sure.

[01:49:37] So there's still some xenophobia there on one side of the political spectrum or whatever.

[01:49:42] Well, they were, they were allowed to convert to Judaism.

[01:49:47] They were allowed to come there and learn Hebrew and they were allowed to convert to

[01:49:52] the religion and start learning all of the practices and all of that.

[01:49:57] They were allowed that.

[01:49:59] But the question was whether or not they would be granted, okay, we see that you're like

[01:50:05] Jewish to use George Santos's phrase.

[01:50:13] He claimed to be Jewish and then, you know, people are like, no, you're not.

[01:50:18] And he was like, I said, I was Jew-ish.

[01:50:23] And so I'm stealing that phrasing and applying it to these people and the people of Israel

[01:50:29] were like, okay, we see that you are acting Jew-ish, but the question is actually, but

[01:50:36] are you of Jewish descent?

[01:50:39] Are you Jewish?

[01:50:41] Right.

[01:50:42] And that was what they were trying to prove.

[01:50:45] And that's what they hoped to prove.

[01:50:48] And the guy in charge, whatever his name is, the rabbi there was like, yeah, totally I

[01:50:53] prove this.

[01:50:54] You are totally from the lost tribe of Manasseh.

[01:50:57] Right.

[01:50:58] Because Judaism essentially is more than just a religion.

[01:51:00] It is actually a race of people, essentially.

[01:51:03] And so far as races exist, yes.

[01:51:06] Yeah.

[01:51:07] Well, I mean, it's treated that way sometimes at the very least, like that is how we're

[01:51:12] able to find from what I could understand, from what I was reading on this, what they

[01:51:16] were looking for was certain why chromosomes, and that's why they did more testing of men

[01:51:21] than women.

[01:51:23] They did do a testing of women, but it was really hard to differentiate because of inner

[01:51:28] marriages.

[01:51:29] Yeah.

[01:51:30] And because they traveled, you know, what is that word where you travel, immigrate, they

[01:51:37] immigrated across the land or whatever.

[01:51:42] So they were looking for a certain type of white chromosome in men that would indicate

[01:51:48] not that they were Jewish, but they could tell what region they were from at that time.

[01:51:55] So it is kind of like a, okay, we, we see not what you are.

[01:52:01] We see what you're not, and that kind of empty space, if you will, tells us what you are.

[01:52:09] Gotcha.

[01:52:11] It's a tricky thing because, you know, you don't want to say, yeah, we could totally

[01:52:14] tell from your DNA that you are XYZ.

[01:52:17] Sure.

[01:52:18] Sure.

[01:52:19] Nope.

[01:52:20] I get it.

[01:52:21] Yeah.

[01:52:22] All right.

[01:52:23] Well, that is that all you've got for us today?

[01:52:24] That is all I got for us today.

[01:52:25] All right.

[01:52:26] Well, that was Isaiah chapter 63, four, five and six, but mostly 66.

[01:52:32] It was chapter 66 Q and A. Yeah.

[01:52:36] And so we will be back tomorrow with.

[01:52:38] Or Isaiah wrap up.

[01:52:41] All right.

[01:52:42] And then after that, we'll be doing the contradictions and all we getting out the weekly wrap up

[01:52:47] for the whole week.

[01:52:48] And then we'll be back on Monday starting Jeremiah chapter one.

[01:52:53] Yeah.

[01:52:54] We'll see you then.

[01:52:55] Okie-dokie.

[01:52:56] Husband.

[01:52:57] What are we doing today?

[01:52:58] Well, we have finished Isaiah's.

[01:53:06] That means that today we are doing a wrap up.

[01:53:10] Yeah.

[01:53:11] We're finishing up.

[01:53:12] We're going over the shed.

[01:53:13] Yes.

[01:53:14] We're ending Isaiah.

[01:53:15] We're almost out of here.

[01:53:16] Yeah.

[01:53:17] Tomorrow we've got your always wrong.

[01:53:21] And then we'll be officially done.

[01:53:22] Yes.

[01:53:23] And it can't happen soon enough.

[01:53:26] Did you want to give us a sneak peek of anything we're going over today or just get right

[01:53:29] into it?

[01:53:31] We're just mostly talking about what the book entailed and who was Isaiah and how do

[01:53:37] we view it today kind of thing.

[01:53:39] So, I mean, it's a lot of it's stuff that we may have discussed before, but that I thought

[01:53:44] deserved a read.

[01:53:45] Put it at the end.

[01:53:46] Yeah.

[01:53:47] All right.

[01:53:48] Sounds good.

[01:53:49] You ready to do this?

[01:53:50] I am.

[01:53:51] Let's do it.

[01:53:52] Okie-dokie.

[01:53:54] Ok, so we are summarizing the book of Isaiah and wrapping that shit up.

[01:54:06] Ok.

[01:54:07] If you had to give us a summary of Isaiah, like just a brief overview, could you do it?

[01:54:12] I think my brief overview would be they can't decide who's writing the fucking book.

[01:54:17] Yeah.

[01:54:18] And God wants to kill us all and save us all.

[01:54:22] Yes.

[01:54:23] That's the gist of it.

[01:54:24] And he still really loves the Israelites and also hates it.

[01:54:27] Oh, and the New Testament loves it.

[01:54:29] Yes, they do.

[01:54:30] They really do a lot.

[01:54:32] Yeah.

[01:54:33] Yeah.

[01:54:34] Ok.

[01:54:35] Well, yeah, that about does it.

[01:54:36] I guess we're out.

[01:54:37] Just kidding.

[01:54:38] So, the book of Isaiah is the first of the latter prophets in the Hebrew Bible and the

[01:54:46] first of the major prophets in the Christian Old Testament.

[01:54:49] Got it.

[01:54:50] So, just depends on how you talk about it.

[01:54:54] See it.

[01:54:55] Yeah.

[01:54:56] Sure.

[01:54:57] Yeah.

[01:54:58] It is identified by a superscription as the words of the 8th century BCE prophet Isaiah

[01:55:05] Ben-Amaz.

[01:55:06] Unless, of course, you skip to the part where it's not the 8th century and it's later

[01:55:10] where somebody else is writing it for him.

[01:55:13] Exactly.

[01:55:14] Yeah.

[01:55:15] BCE.

[01:55:16] Right, right.

[01:55:18] The book of Isaiah is a collection of prophecies and oracles delivered by the prophet Isaiah

[01:55:23] hypothetically.

[01:55:24] Right.

[01:55:25] Over a period of several decades in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE.

[01:55:30] That's a very friendly way of putting that.

[01:55:32] Yes.

[01:55:33] We're going to break it down a little bit more as we go through this, but that's the general

[01:55:40] overview.

[01:55:41] Ok.

[01:55:42] Alright.

[01:55:43] The book is divided into two main parts.

[01:55:45] First Isaiah and second Isaiah.

[01:55:47] That's separate from, remember we decided later on that it was also broken up into three

[01:55:54] different parts.

[01:55:55] Right.

[01:55:56] That's not confusing at all.

[01:55:57] No.

[01:55:58] It just, people have divided it in using different methods, ok?

[01:56:04] So a lot of scholars view it as first Isaiah and second Isaiah.

[01:56:09] Which is essentially where Isaiah might have written it compared to where Isaiah definitely

[01:56:15] didn't write it.

[01:56:16] No.

[01:56:17] That would be the way they do that is more the-

[01:56:19] The three sections.

[01:56:20] The three sections.

[01:56:21] Yeah.

[01:56:22] Yeah.

[01:56:23] Yeah.

[01:56:24] That's how they determine the time period.

[01:56:27] Ok.

[01:56:28] This one is just more based on the purpose and material of the book.

[01:56:34] Ah.

[01:56:35] Ok.

[01:56:36] So first Isaiah would consist of chapters one through 39.

[01:56:42] Remember there's a total of 66.

[01:56:44] Yep.

[01:56:45] So one through 39.

[01:56:46] First Isaiah is primarily concerned with the judgment and salvation of the kingdom of Judah.

[01:56:52] Right.

[01:56:53] Isaiah condemns the people of Judah for their idolatry, injustice and hypocrisy.

[01:56:58] He warns them that God's judgment is coming, but he also promises that a remnant of faithful

[01:57:04] people will be saved.

[01:57:05] That's a pretty good, I think, summary of First Isaiah.

[01:57:08] Right.

[01:57:09] Did he walk around naked in the First Isaiah?

[01:57:11] I think so.

[01:57:12] Ok.

[01:57:13] One of the checkers.

[01:57:14] You just wanted to say Isaiah walked around naked.

[01:57:16] Well, I mean, that's good shit.

[01:57:18] That is some good shit.

[01:57:19] That's a juicy bit, you know.

[01:57:21] That is a juicy bit.

[01:57:22] Yeah.

[01:57:23] That didn't make it into my notes and it should have.

[01:57:25] Yeah.

[01:57:26] Right.

[01:57:27] That's on me.

[01:57:28] A second Isaiah consists of chapters 40 through 66.

[01:57:32] Ok.

[01:57:33] And second Isaiah was written during the Babylonian exile.

[01:57:37] Right.

[01:57:38] After the kingdom of Judah had been conquered and destroyed.

[01:57:41] Right.

[01:57:42] These chapters, Isaiah offers a message of hope and consolation to the exiled Israelites.

[01:57:49] He assures them that God will deliver them from exile and restore them to their homeland.

[01:57:54] He also prophecies the coming of a Messiah who will establish a new kingdom of justice

[01:58:01] and peace.

[01:58:02] We'll get into the Messiah a little bit later, but the Messiah that they're referring to

[01:58:08] there is Cyrus.

[01:58:10] Right.

[01:58:12] But again, we'll talk about that later.

[01:58:14] That he calls by name, apparently, because you know, he prophesies it that well.

[01:58:19] Yeah, sure.

[01:58:21] Another way to organize the chapters is thus, and this is also split in two.

[01:58:28] Ok.

[01:58:29] But this is split exactly in half chapters one through 33, and then chapter is 34, I'm

[01:58:35] sorry, 34 through 66.

[01:58:37] What is the purpose of that?

[01:58:38] It's just a split in half.

[01:58:40] It's another way that scholars view it.

[01:58:43] Ok.

[01:58:44] So in chapters one through 33, if we're going to divide it out this way, this section warns

[01:58:50] of judgment and promises restoration for Judah, Jerusalem, and the nations.

[01:58:55] God has a plan which when realized, we'll see Jerusalem as the center of his worldwide

[01:59:00] rule.

[01:59:01] On that day, all the nations of the world will come to Zion, Jerusalem, for instructions.

[01:59:09] But first, the city must be punished and cleansed of evil.

[01:59:14] Israel is invited to join in this plan, because remember he's mostly talking to Judah at

[01:59:19] that point.

[01:59:20] Right.

[01:59:21] The significance of the Assyrian judgment, and keep that in mind, Assyrian judgment against

[01:59:27] Israel is explained.

[01:59:29] Righteous rule by the Davidic king will follow after the arrogant Assyrian monarch is brought

[01:59:37] down.

[01:59:38] Okay.

[01:59:39] Preparation of the nations for Yahweh's world rule is announced, and it is further announced

[01:59:44] that a royal savior, the Messiah, will emerge in the aftermath of Jerusalem's punishment.

[01:59:50] So you can see that this is phrased a little bit differently, even though it covers the

[01:59:55] same material, the focus is different.

[01:59:57] Sure.

[01:59:59] And in this breakdown, chapters 34 through 66, presume that judgment has been pronounced

[02:00:06] and restoration follows soon, the oppressor who is now identified as Babylon rather than

[02:00:12] Assyria, which is one of the ways in which we can tell that there might have been at least

[02:00:20] two, if not many more authors, is about to fall.

[02:00:24] It is prophesied that Yahweh will return the redeemed exiles to Jerusalem, and we are

[02:00:30] told of the faithfulness of King Hezekiah to Yahweh during the Assyrian siege as a model

[02:00:37] for the restored community.

[02:00:40] The restoration of Zion is taking place because Yahweh, the creator of the universe, has designated

[02:00:46] the Persian king Cyrus the Greek as the promised Messiah and temple builder.

[02:00:53] It is quote unquote predicted that a suffering servant will be the Messiah, the one that the

[02:00:59] prophet speaks of in the previous verses.

[02:01:02] We then read an exhortation to Israel to keep the covenant.

[02:01:08] God's eternal promise to David is now made to the people of Israel and Judah at large.

[02:01:14] The book ends by enjoining righteousness as the final stages of God's plan come to pass,

[02:01:22] including the pilgrimage of the nations to Zion and the realization of Yahweh's kingship.

[02:01:28] Wow, that is very, that is a very happy version for people who believe in God, that

[02:01:38] you just portrayed there.

[02:01:40] Yes.

[02:01:41] Because that is, like I can see how they got that, but at the same time I'm like, that

[02:01:48] is so far from what I was hearing.

[02:01:51] And that's why I wanted to include these different ways to break it down because now the, like

[02:01:55] I had read those and I read from those a little bit before we started.

[02:02:01] Yeah.

[02:02:02] And we didn't really get the full impact of that because we hadn't read it yet.

[02:02:06] Sure.

[02:02:07] Now that we've read it, we can look back at the way that people are studying this and going,

[02:02:13] Oh, you're dumb.

[02:02:15] These fuckers have beer goggles when they fucking read the Bible.

[02:02:18] Yeah.

[02:02:19] They're like, Oh, I love, I love God.

[02:02:21] You just hustled a great guy.

[02:02:24] You ain't right.

[02:02:27] So as we discussed, new scholars today attribute the entire book, or even most of it to one

[02:02:33] person.

[02:02:34] Yeah.

[02:02:35] Hilarious.

[02:02:36] However, the book's essential unity has become a focus in more recent research.

[02:02:42] Okay.

[02:02:43] Meaning that it doesn't all work together because obviously other people wrote it.

[02:02:50] Right.

[02:02:52] That would, that would be saying that we recognize that it's written by other people.

[02:02:58] But the unity, what they mean by that is all the messages combined together from all these

[02:03:03] different authors over time period.

[02:03:06] Oh, that's what unity means.

[02:03:09] I don't, I didn't, I mean, the unity was very simple, simple because the unity was essentially

[02:03:16] God is going to save people, but he's also going to punish people.

[02:03:20] The unity is, follow these rules and fear God, the rule, the, the unity is just a message

[02:03:26] that we've been hearing since early on.

[02:03:28] I was just going to say, hasn't it always been that message?

[02:03:30] Yeah.

[02:03:31] Like it's the same fucking message.

[02:03:33] It's just coming from a different profit.

[02:03:35] Sure.

[02:03:36] And it's not.

[02:03:37] And he's putting a little more skin in the game.

[02:03:39] To be perfectly honest with you, I didn't, I didn't feel a lot of unity in how the book,

[02:03:45] you know, went through, like it, it, there was, there was definitely different tones and

[02:03:49] different ways that things were handled throughout this book.

[02:03:54] Okay.

[02:03:55] Keep in mind, because I don't disagree.

[02:03:58] I do agree with you, but keep in mind that A, this is our first read through.

[02:04:03] B, we don't really fully understand a lot of the history and context of what was going

[02:04:10] on at the time.

[02:04:11] We're still piecing it all together as non-academics and non-scholars.

[02:04:17] And see, we're reading a chapter at a time over a very long time period and losing a lot

[02:04:24] of like what happened in the beginning of the book versus where we just finished.

[02:04:30] So I think, I think you're making a fair critique, but I also think that it's not necessarily

[02:04:39] a fair critique in that you have to take into consideration all those other points.

[02:04:46] I guess, I guess, I, I just didn't find a lot of consistency in how it was written and

[02:04:54] what it was written about because.

[02:04:56] And that's why the scholars break it down into different parts.

[02:04:59] Right.

[02:05:00] Right.

[02:05:01] Obviously.

[02:05:02] Obviously.

[02:05:03] But the, the, the beautiful version that we're trying to pitch is that Isaiah wrote the

[02:05:07] whole fucking thing and predicted all the things, you know what I mean, like that, that does

[02:05:12] not, that can't ever work in my head.

[02:05:15] No, I get it.

[02:05:16] That's never going to be a thing that is going to say, I'm never going to say Isaiah was written

[02:05:20] by Isaiah.

[02:05:21] No.

[02:05:22] That's just not how it happened.

[02:05:23] I totally agree with you.

[02:05:25] And, and they weren't trying to say that when they say the essential unity, they're not trying

[02:05:29] to say.

[02:05:30] I got it.

[02:05:31] The book was written by one guy.

[02:05:32] They're trying to say, no, this clearly was written by a bunch of guys who are all trying

[02:05:36] to say a very similar thing and who added to each other's messages.

[02:05:41] So they're looking at the, um, the bulletin board and not the individual pieces and the

[02:05:48] authors of each note that's pinned on the board.

[02:05:51] But I guess what we're talking about, so I, I may be getting too far ahead here, but the

[02:05:56] part that bothers me, I guess, is that we are talking about God, right?

[02:06:00] And God's message and it's being, it's being told to us hypothetically through Isaiah.

[02:06:07] So you and I, based on reading this and based on some of the research we've done, know that

[02:06:13] that is not true.

[02:06:14] Right.

[02:06:15] Like there are other writers, right?

[02:06:16] Yes.

[02:06:17] So essentially what Isaiah is to me is a big fat fucking lie.

[02:06:22] Oh yeah, I totally agree.

[02:06:24] 100%.

[02:06:25] And why does God, why does God need to have people lie for him?

[02:06:30] Why does God need to spread a message that is not truthful?

[02:06:33] Well, because there is no such thing as God.

[02:06:36] I, I get, I, obviously I get that, right.

[02:06:40] But what I don't get is how people can't see that.

[02:06:44] Like why is that not a question that people have?

[02:06:47] Why does God in his book have to lie to us?

[02:06:52] Um, I think you know the answer.

[02:06:54] Right.

[02:06:55] So I'm not even gonna, because I think, I think you know the answer.

[02:07:01] Okay.

[02:07:02] So moving on, it was held as a consensus through most of the 20th century.

[02:07:08] So the 1900s, yeah, that the book comprises three separate collections of oracles.

[02:07:13] And that's where we get into the proto deutero and Trito, okay.

[02:07:19] And we kind of switched from the first and second Isaiah to the proto deutero Trito because

[02:07:26] I didn't fully grasp that though they had split these up into different groups for different

[02:07:32] methods of study and at different time periods of study.

[02:07:38] So that's another reason I wanted to kind of include all this so I can like straighten

[02:07:43] us out a little bit.

[02:07:44] Got it.

[02:07:45] Okay.

[02:07:46] So in proto Isaiah, that's chapters one through 39, which that is very consistent with the first

[02:07:53] half or thereabouts.

[02:07:55] One through 39 is also the exact same measure as first Isaiah.

[02:08:00] And in my recollection, those were the ones that were more or less attributed to Isaiah.

[02:08:06] Correct.

[02:08:07] Proto Isaiah contains the words of the 8th century BCE prophet Isaiah.

[02:08:13] Right.

[02:08:14] Yes.

[02:08:15] So basically a little over half the book, first Isaiah, let's see, chap, sorry, I scrolled

[02:08:23] in lost my place chapters 40 through 55.

[02:08:27] So now we're taking that second block of second Isaiah and splitting it into two.

[02:08:33] Sure.

[02:08:34] Okay.

[02:08:35] Yep.

[02:08:36] So the first part of that chapters 40 through 55 we called deutero Isaiah or the book of

[02:08:41] consolation.

[02:08:42] Okay.

[02:08:43] And I don't recall having seen that before.

[02:08:46] Okay.

[02:08:47] Maybe I said it, but like I said, I can't recall honestly.

[02:08:50] This is the work of an anonymous 6th century BCE author writing during the exile.

[02:08:58] This section describes how God will make Jerusalem the center of his worldwide rule through a

[02:09:03] royal savior, the Persian king, Cyrus the Great, who will destroy the oppressor Babylon.

[02:09:10] Yeah.

[02:09:11] Cyrus is merely a tool.

[02:09:12] He is the agent God uses to bring about Yahweh's kingship.

[02:09:16] Isaiah speaks out against the corrupt leaders and for the disadvantage and roots, righteousness

[02:09:23] in God's holiness rather than in Israel's covenant, which I was like, whoa, say that again.

[02:09:31] Yeah.

[02:09:33] He talks more about how God is awesome.

[02:09:36] So we owe God this and God is going to find him his own self pleasurable.

[02:09:44] Remember, yeah, and that was more what was concentrated on in that section than the actual

[02:09:54] covenant that God made with Israel.

[02:09:56] Got it.

[02:09:57] Like, it's more about the relationship than the covenant, which we kind of realize that,

[02:10:04] but this phrasing of it like really brings that home like, Oh, yeah, you're right.

[02:10:09] Yeah.

[02:10:10] Absolutely right.

[02:10:11] The latter half of second Isaiah, chapters 56 through 66 was Triedo Isaiah.

[02:10:19] Sure.

[02:10:20] That's what we just finished up.

[02:10:21] Yeah.

[02:10:22] And anthology of oracles by unknown prophets about 12 passages composed in the years immediately

[02:10:29] following the return from exile in Babylon.

[02:10:32] Okay.

[02:10:33] Triedo Isaiah concerns Jerusalem, the temple, the Sabbath, and ultimately Israel's salvation.

[02:10:39] That makes sense.

[02:10:40] They talked a lot about the rebuilding of Jerusalem and Zion.

[02:10:43] Yep.

[02:10:44] What's going to happen and how pretty it's going to be in the new heavens is so the book

[02:10:51] can be read as an extended meditation on the destiny of Jerusalem into and after the

[02:10:56] exile, which that is a very, I don't know if I would call it a meditation.

[02:11:03] Right.

[02:11:04] Yeah.

[02:11:05] It's very fairytale language for me.

[02:11:09] Yeah.

[02:11:10] I mean, I don't know.

[02:11:12] I know that a lot of people that read the Bible, quote unquote, you know, they don't really,

[02:11:17] they read bits and pieces, right?

[02:11:19] Right.

[02:11:20] They take out bits and pieces and I could see how you could make this beautiful because

[02:11:24] because almost every single chapter that we read had a really beautiful thing about the

[02:11:29] believers, right?

[02:11:30] So like if you, if you chose to read the quotes about what the believers are going to receive

[02:11:35] coming into this or that of the other, you don't read any of the other stuff.

[02:11:38] Right.

[02:11:39] And that would sound fucking wonderful, right?

[02:11:40] Yeah.

[02:11:41] But we're reading it.

[02:11:43] We're actually reading it and it's not.

[02:11:45] It's fucking trash and God's fucking us.

[02:11:47] He's a fucking psychopath.

[02:11:48] What I think this actually just came to my head and you can tell me to STF you if you

[02:11:55] want.

[02:11:56] Okay.

[02:11:57] I think it might be kind of fun to maybe when we're completely done with the Bible, follow

[02:12:02] a devotional for a year.

[02:12:03] Oh God.

[02:12:04] And just to compare the devotional of how they take out various unrelated verses that

[02:12:11] happen to have the same message and be like, no, fuck you.

[02:12:15] This word love or what the fuck ever in this, like you're taking it completely out of context

[02:12:21] and you know you are asshole.

[02:12:22] I mean, it could be interesting, but I don't know if I have it in me to do that.

[02:12:27] Right.

[02:12:28] Right.

[02:12:29] I just, I think it would be just something to consider.

[02:12:32] Yeah.

[02:12:33] Yeah.

[02:12:34] Right there.

[02:12:35] Okay.

[02:12:36] Okay.

[02:12:37] I'll type it in like one of our extra ideas to think about.

[02:12:40] Sure.

[02:12:41] Yeah.

[02:12:42] All right.

[02:12:43] So next section that I want to get into is who wrote Isaiah, which we already kind of

[02:12:47] know.

[02:12:48] Yeah.

[02:12:49] So the authorship of the book of Isaiah has been reexamined and debated by many scholars.

[02:12:53] No doubt.

[02:12:54] Some claim that style changes, time hops and shift in word choice indicate as many

[02:13:00] as three separate authors.

[02:13:03] Others argue for hundreds of contributors, perhaps disciples of Isaiah compiling his ideas

[02:13:09] and building on his work.

[02:13:11] Or maybe these disciples contributed nothing and only collected Isaiah's words throughout

[02:13:15] his ministry.

[02:13:16] Sure.

[02:13:17] So.

[02:13:18] And I, you know what?

[02:13:19] I actually could believe that it was not Isaiah writing the, the beginning bits because

[02:13:23] there was parts where they wrote about Isaiah, right.

[02:13:26] And if you're Isaiah, I don't feel like you would write about your self as a third person.

[02:13:31] Yeah.

[02:13:32] I don't think so.

[02:13:33] I'm weird.

[02:13:34] Right.

[02:13:35] Yeah.

[02:13:36] And there was, there were some times where there were some, you know, things like that happening

[02:13:38] as far as I'm speaking to.

[02:13:39] Sure.

[02:13:40] And that would be very odd if he was writing himself that way.

[02:13:43] Yeah.

[02:13:44] And I think that disciples writing it, writing his words for him also would explain some

[02:13:50] of the weight.

[02:13:51] Who's talking?

[02:13:52] Is this Isaiah talking as God or is this Isaiah talking as God talking as Israel or like,

[02:14:00] I remember that was so confusing for a while, like, and they were very bad on using pronouns

[02:14:06] and we couldn't tell what was going on half the time.

[02:14:09] Yeah.

[02:14:10] It was very difficult.

[02:14:11] Yeah.

[02:14:12] Yeah.

[02:14:13] I don't blame myself for that.

[02:14:14] No, no.

[02:14:15] Okay.

[02:14:16] So the earliest manuscript of Isaiah was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls dating from 175 BCE.

[02:14:22] Okay.

[02:14:23] Interesting.

[02:14:24] Yeah.

[02:14:25] Isaiah was one of the most popular works among Jews in the period between the foundation

[02:14:30] of the Second Temple circa 515 BCE and its destruction by the Romans in 70 CE.

[02:14:39] Okay.

[02:14:40] So think about that time period.

[02:14:43] Yeah.

[02:14:44] Jesus, if we're to believe he was born in year zero, right, he would have been very influenced

[02:14:53] by Isaiah.

[02:14:55] Definitely.

[02:14:56] Definitely.

[02:14:57] So that kind of puts- And it would have more of a, like, it would have an in the moment

[02:15:02] meaning because the Romans just, like, that's not even something that we discussed, right?

[02:15:08] Because it's not in Isaiah.

[02:15:09] Sure.

[02:15:10] But it would have a very relevant meaning in that moment because they could interpret

[02:15:15] it to mean this is that moment, not the prior.

[02:15:18] Right.

[02:15:19] Exactly.

[02:15:20] Exactly.

[02:15:21] So that is actually really interesting.

[02:15:22] Yeah.

[02:15:23] And I was like, oh, like, I just got goosebumps.

[02:15:27] That's literally nothing we talked about at all.

[02:15:29] Right.

[02:15:30] But, but- And it doesn't say it in my notes either.

[02:15:32] Right.

[02:15:33] It's something that occurred to me as I'm looking at, I'm like, hold on, 70 CE.

[02:15:38] Jesus is your hero, right?

[02:15:41] So, like, obviously, they were under, well, I mean, and we know that they were under Roman

[02:15:44] control because that's when Jesus got trouble from the Romans, right?

[02:15:48] So they were being, you know, they were exiled to Roman, to Rome, you know, like Rome

[02:15:54] had control of the Israelites.

[02:15:56] Yes.

[02:15:57] So if Isaiah was popular prior to the Roman takeover, obviously it still held sway.

[02:16:03] Yes.

[02:16:04] And so the ideas in Isaiah, and especially because they became very prevalent in the New

[02:16:09] Testament.

[02:16:10] Right.

[02:16:11] That's what I'm saying.

[02:16:12] We almost know without a doubt that it is all very much pointed to that book and-

[02:16:17] And that they were interpreting it within their own time.

[02:16:20] Yeah.

[02:16:21] That's really interesting, actually.

[02:16:22] Yeah.

[02:16:23] It really is.

[02:16:24] I'm glad that that came up because that's a whole new spin on, like, the entire-

[02:16:30] The entire New Fucking Testament is going to be like, oh, I know where you came from.

[02:16:35] Yeah.

[02:16:36] No, that's really cool.

[02:16:37] You were written like in one day- And again, I mean, obviously we're just, you know, hypothesizing

[02:16:43] ourselves because we didn't read this anywhere, but it makes a lot of fucking sense.

[02:16:47] Right.

[02:16:48] Well, I mean, if you think about this, Rome destroyed the temple in 70, right?

[02:16:57] Yeah.

[02:16:58] So when Jesus was like a 35-year-old man walking around Rome and doing his thing, and Isaiah

[02:17:04] was like right at its height before it got trampled along with the temple, right?

[02:17:10] Yeah.

[02:17:11] Okay.

[02:17:12] You said what I'm saying?

[02:17:14] Yes.

[02:17:15] Yes.

[02:17:16] It was popular up until 70, obviously, because that's when the Romans came in and the war

[02:17:21] was a thing, basically.

[02:17:22] Yeah.

[02:17:23] And being subjugated and all that.

[02:17:24] Yeah.

[02:17:25] So- But Jesus would have been walking around during this time and, you know-

[02:17:30] Like a hundred years later.

[02:17:32] What do you mean?

[02:17:34] Well, the temple got sacked by the Romans in 70 BCE, right?

[02:17:38] Yeah.

[02:17:39] No.

[02:17:40] 70 CE.

[02:17:41] Oh.

[02:17:42] Oh.

[02:17:43] Yeah.

[02:17:44] That's why I stressed that.

[02:17:45] Oh, oh, oh.

[02:17:46] Yeah.

[02:17:47] Okay.

[02:17:48] Okay.

[02:17:49] Yeah.

[02:17:50] That's what I'm saying.

[02:17:51] I got you.

[02:17:52] Yeah.

[02:17:53] So if Jesus is, you know, born year zero, what the fuck ever, why ever our calendar has to

[02:17:57] be that way?

[02:17:58] Sure.

[02:17:59] He's a 35-year-old man walking around and walking around in Rome is like 35 years out

[02:18:06] from destroying the temple.

[02:18:09] And they're already under their control too.

[02:18:11] Yes.

[02:18:12] And so.

[02:18:13] The book of Isaiah is, like, at the height of fame, right?

[02:18:18] That's what I was, that's what I was trying to convey.

[02:18:20] Yeah.

[02:18:21] Okay.

[02:18:22] Yeah.

[02:18:23] Yeah.

[02:18:24] That's crazy, right?

[02:18:25] Yeah.

[02:18:26] It's crazy that, like, they will say, um, yeah, Isaiah is so popular that they call him like

[02:18:31] the fifth gospel, but they don't explain why.

[02:18:34] Right.

[02:18:35] He's not the fifth gospel.

[02:18:37] He's the first gospel and everything else came out of it.

[02:18:40] Right.

[02:18:41] He's like, fuck off.

[02:18:42] Yeah.

[02:18:43] So anyway, who was Isaiah?

[02:18:45] Um, uh, then they could madman.

[02:18:48] Right.

[02:18:49] He was a Judean prophet who served from the end of Euseiah's reign in 740 BCE through

[02:18:58] 701 BCE when Hezekiah sat on the throne.

[02:19:02] Got it.

[02:19:03] It is at least possible that his ministry lasted much longer, extending back through

[02:19:10] Euseiah's reign and forward to the time of Manasseh in 696 to 642 BCE.

[02:19:18] Okay.

[02:19:19] Okay.

[02:19:20] Whatever.

[02:19:21] Who came?

[02:19:22] I doubt it was there the whole time because that would have made him like a hundred years

[02:19:23] old or more.

[02:19:24] Sure.

[02:19:25] So whatever during the time of these prophecies, Israel and Judah were in danger of being swallowed

[02:19:30] by the Assyrian Empire because, you know, Assyria was out of control.

[02:19:35] They were taken over everything.

[02:19:37] Right.

[02:19:38] Right.

[02:19:39] Isaiah spoke during this troubled time, revealing his people's unfaithfulness to God and foretelling

[02:19:46] the inevitable Babylonian captivity more than a century before Jerusalem was taken.

[02:19:53] Except that as we already talked about, he was foretelling the Assyrian takeover because

[02:19:59] that's what was happening.

[02:20:00] Yes.

[02:20:01] And the Babylonian thing only happened because somebody else wrote about that instead later.

[02:20:05] Exactly.

[02:20:06] But okay.

[02:20:07] Yeah.

[02:20:08] He thought that he probably recorded these events and prophecies in Jerusalem not long after

[02:20:13] the end of his ministry, Isaiah's writings contrast a loving God with the sinful nation

[02:20:20] of Israel.

[02:20:21] Yeah.

[02:20:22] Something like that.

[02:20:23] Yeah.

[02:20:24] Yeah.

[02:20:25] And, and also those people are going to pay for their sins.

[02:20:28] Yeah.

[02:20:29] Like, okay, that's not a loving God, but whatever you want to think, but the prophet does more

[02:20:33] than merely promise disaster amid chaos and uncertainty, Isaiah focuses on the sovereignty

[02:20:40] of God and his compassionate and holy offer of salvation.

[02:20:46] You know the term holier than now?

[02:20:49] I think people really like to feel holier than now.

[02:20:52] I think God is holier than now.

[02:20:54] And I feel like Isaiah gives people that ability to feel holier than now.

[02:21:00] You can say, well, I'm better than you because I follow all the tenets and I truly believe,

[02:21:06] right?

[02:21:07] Yeah.

[02:21:08] And obviously you had your, all your crops die and all your livestock die because you are

[02:21:17] just a piece of shit and I am so much better than you are.

[02:21:22] You know, like it's, it's the same feeling I get from Christians today.

[02:21:26] Like they, they have this thing where they're like, I am going to this perfect, wonderful

[02:21:30] place and you are going to roast God damn hell.

[02:21:33] And you deserve it.

[02:21:34] Right.

[02:21:35] Yeah.

[02:21:36] You were born on the wrong continent.

[02:21:37] Fuck face.

[02:21:38] You were not born to people with money.

[02:21:41] Fuck face.

[02:21:42] You apparently can't hear God.

[02:21:44] Fuck face.

[02:21:45] Cause like the rest of the sentence is always fuck face, you know, like, okay, well, right,

[02:21:51] you just go on over there and do your thing, but stay out of my uterus, you know, right?

[02:21:56] Amid chaos and uncertainty, I, oh, I just read that blah, blah, blah, salvation, salvation.

[02:22:03] I say a prophecies that God will turn from righteous anger and lead Israel out of captivity.

[02:22:11] This is a book of promises.

[02:22:13] It sure luck was the assurance of God's holiness carries with it conviction and discipline, but

[02:22:21] the promise of mercy and salvation brings hope and the people of Israel need both discipline

[02:22:29] and hope.

[02:22:30] It must have been really shitty back then because the promise that he gave them didn't

[02:22:36] sound like a really great promise.

[02:22:38] Right.

[02:22:39] Think about how shitty your life must be if that sounds good.

[02:22:42] Yeah.

[02:22:43] Right.

[02:22:44] Somebody has you in a dungeon, right?

[02:22:48] And they have broken your kneecaps and fed you like rat poop, infested water and they come

[02:22:56] along and they're like, all you have to do is XYZ and for forgiveness, basically, whatever,

[02:23:03] whatever it may be, XYZ and I will not pull off your fingernails.

[02:23:09] Yeah.

[02:23:10] Oh my God, sign me up for that plan.

[02:23:13] Right.

[02:23:14] Like that's, that's the idea that we are supposed to be excited about.

[02:23:19] Right.

[02:23:20] Like, you're going to not pull out my fingernails and I'm supposed to be grateful.

[02:23:25] Yeah.

[02:23:26] That is bullshittery.

[02:23:27] I agree.

[02:23:28] That's why I had so much trouble with this book because it was so back and forth about

[02:23:35] how he was going to punish him.

[02:23:37] And even when you were supposed to be following him or you were, you were on the right path,

[02:23:42] you were still supposed to fear him.

[02:23:43] Always.

[02:23:44] Because he could always turn and smite you or kill you or make you do whatever.

[02:23:49] Be on his period that day.

[02:23:50] Yeah.

[02:23:51] Yeah.

[02:23:52] I have a feeling you were going to be so cranky during the New Testament and I was already

[02:23:57] not looking forward to it.

[02:23:59] So here's one more thing I wanted to talk about.

[02:24:04] Isaiah chapter 44 contains the first clear statement of monotheism and I kind of vaguely

[02:24:12] remember that.

[02:24:13] Yeah.

[02:24:14] We talked about it.

[02:24:15] We noticed it.

[02:24:16] We said it.

[02:24:17] Yeah.

[02:24:18] The verse, it's verse six in chapter 44 and it goes, I am the first and I am the last beside

[02:24:23] me.

[02:24:24] There is no God.

[02:24:25] Right.

[02:24:26] Yeah.

[02:24:27] So then he goes on to say some other stuff, but anyway, well, y'all way had shown his

[02:24:33] superior to other gods before in second Isaiah, he becomes the soul God of the world.

[02:24:42] Except for that later, we still ended up talking about multiple other gods.

[02:24:47] And I mean, it reverted back like they only held on to it for a moment and then it was

[02:24:53] like in Isaiah.

[02:24:54] Yeah.

[02:24:55] I don't recall that.

[02:24:56] We were talking about what was the deities, the idols.

[02:25:04] Yeah.

[02:25:05] We were talking about idols and there was the capital.

[02:25:08] I can't remember what it was now, but it was like freedom and I don't know if they started

[02:25:14] with, there was like an F and there was something else I can't remember what they started with,

[02:25:17] but there was some sub gods that came about at one point or something like that.

[02:25:24] Fortune and destiny.

[02:25:25] Yes.

[02:25:26] Fortune and destiny.

[02:25:27] Okay.

[02:25:28] Yes and no.

[02:25:30] Those were, those were described as pagan idols, not as gods that exist.

[02:25:40] Okay.

[02:25:41] So but they did capitalize them as as names.

[02:25:45] Okay.

[02:25:46] All right.

[02:25:47] All right.

[02:25:48] All right.

[02:25:49] As names of y'all set the table for this bullshittery, you know, you set aside, but they're still

[02:25:54] acknowledging that other people, there are other people's beliefs, but they're not acknowledging

[02:25:59] that gods exist.

[02:26:02] That was always ten, tenuous though in the past too.

[02:26:06] They talked a lot about idols in the past.

[02:26:07] So it's not, it's not a completely different tone, but they also talk a lot about the belief

[02:26:14] or they talk a lot about God, the gods and who is the best among them.

[02:26:20] You know what I mean?

[02:26:21] Sure.

[02:26:23] I don't know.

[02:26:24] Yeah.

[02:26:25] It's subtle, but I mean, yeah, but, but they didn't, they didn't change dramatically other

[02:26:30] than that statement that was made, right?

[02:26:32] That statement was a strong push towards monotheism.

[02:26:35] Right.

[02:26:36] Well, this is, this is the first instant of it is what they're saying.

[02:26:39] Yeah.

[02:26:40] Okay.

[02:26:41] He had shown his superiority to other gods before, which I said, right.

[02:26:46] And in Second Isaiah, he becomes the soul God of the world.

[02:26:50] His model of monotheism became the defining characteristic of post-exilic Judaism and

[02:26:58] became the basis for Christianity and Islam.

[02:27:01] It's just funny to me though, that they're saying monotheism, right?

[02:27:05] Yeah.

[02:27:06] This God hasn't even touched the islands or the, you know, these other far places that

[02:27:12] are not really that fucking far, you know, and I'm like, if you are the only God, you

[02:27:18] should be telling us about the fucking Native Americans, you should be telling us about

[02:27:22] the people on the planet or whatever, you know, like you should know everything.

[02:27:28] Yeah.

[02:27:29] But no, you only know this small patch of land.

[02:27:32] Right.

[02:27:33] That's it.

[02:27:34] Exactly.

[02:27:35] Which is because the only people that are, that do know this are the people that are

[02:27:37] writing it.

[02:27:38] Yeah.

[02:27:39] Yeah.

[02:27:40] Whatever.

[02:27:41] Whatever.

[02:27:42] I'm going off about.

[02:27:43] Stupid shit.

[02:27:44] Stupid shit.

[02:27:45] What is all I had for today to summarize and yak about the book of Isaiah?

[02:27:53] All right.

[02:27:54] Sounds good.

[02:27:55] Well, that is our wrap up for today.

[02:27:56] Yep.

[02:27:57] And we will be back tomorrow with our.

[02:28:00] You're always wrong.

[02:28:03] Or contradictions episode.

[02:28:04] Sure as fuck well.

[02:28:05] And then I will get our weekly replay together for all of our episodes this week.

[02:28:10] And then we will be back on Monday starting.

[02:28:13] Where a mile was a bullfrog, all right, we'll see you guys then.

[02:28:20] Bye.

[02:28:21] Husband, wife, do you know what today is and what we're doing?

[02:28:30] Well, it is the very end and I mean be very, very in the final Isaiah, which means that

[02:28:38] we're doing you're always wrong.

[02:28:41] That's correct.

[02:28:43] And so you have some good stuff for us today.

[02:28:45] I have about 17 questions.

[02:28:47] 17 questions.

[02:28:48] Okay.

[02:28:49] All right.

[02:28:50] Are you ready to get in this into this?

[02:28:52] Yes.

[02:28:53] Let's let's do it.

[02:28:56] Okay.

[02:28:57] Okay.

[02:28:58] Okay.

[02:28:59] So we just finished Isaiah and we did the wrap up and now we are getting into your

[02:29:11] always wrong or contradictions.

[02:29:13] Yes.

[02:29:14] Yes.

[02:29:15] That is that is also what it is called.

[02:29:17] Correct.

[02:29:18] Yeah.

[02:29:19] But I like to say that you're always wrong.

[02:29:20] I know I know you do.

[02:29:21] Yeah.

[02:29:22] Like, like for example, question number one, yeah.

[02:29:24] Is it necessary to keep the Sabbath whichever way you guess you're wrong?

[02:29:28] Well, you know, you're giving away the answer already.

[02:29:30] You have to pick one.

[02:29:31] Yes or no.

[02:29:32] Those are your choices.

[02:29:33] What was the question again?

[02:29:34] Is it necessary to keep the Sabbath?

[02:29:37] I'm going to go with no.

[02:29:40] Right.

[02:29:41] According to Isaiah, God changed his mind about the Sabbath early that he had, you know, said

[02:29:45] early on.

[02:29:46] Yeah.

[02:29:47] And it is now an iniquity.

[02:29:48] Right.

[02:29:49] Because boy, and that's why I said no because based on what we're reading now, he's like,

[02:29:52] I, as long as you are fearing me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's the important

[02:29:57] part, not the, not the actions, the, the feeling is more important.

[02:30:02] However, however, you're always wrong, of course, it is necessary to keep the Sabbath.

[02:30:09] Of course.

[02:30:10] Of course.

[02:30:11] It is one of the 10 commandment.

[02:30:12] Yeah.

[02:30:13] And is a perpetual covenant as stated in Exodus, Leviticus, and even Isaiah.

[02:30:20] Not to mention that motherfucker killed a guy for picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

[02:30:23] I was just going to say whoever defiles it, shall surely be put to death.

[02:30:27] Yeah.

[02:30:28] According to Exodus and numbers.

[02:30:29] Right.

[02:30:30] I mean, that's, that's a strong punishment that he actually enforced.

[02:30:33] Yes.

[02:30:34] Early on for it to be changed later.

[02:30:36] Just offhand.

[02:30:37] So later on, he's like, man, right, it's so dumb.

[02:30:40] But God never changes.

[02:30:41] That's what I heard.

[02:30:42] Okay.

[02:30:43] Number two, does God help in times of need?

[02:30:49] Your choices are yes or no, no, no, I'm, I'm giving that answer based on my experience

[02:30:54] in this world.

[02:30:55] Sure.

[02:30:56] Sure.

[02:30:57] Yeah.

[02:30:58] You're right.

[02:30:59] The answer is no.

[02:31:00] Um, in first Samuel, um, it's quoted, you shall cry out in that day and the Lord will not

[02:31:05] hear you.

[02:31:06] Yeah.

[02:31:07] And it says, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

[02:31:10] Why art thou so far from helping me?

[02:31:12] Yeah.

[02:31:13] Oh my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou here is not.

[02:31:15] But, you know, you know, I have to say generally the reasons that they give for God not helping

[02:31:21] it because you were being bad.

[02:31:23] You were being wrong.

[02:31:24] But sometimes he's just a dick.

[02:31:26] Sometimes he is just, and he, he decides just for generations to not listen to people because

[02:31:32] he's like, I don't like, I don't like them in the century.

[02:31:35] I don't know.

[02:31:36] Fuck y'all.

[02:31:37] Peace, bitches.

[02:31:38] Yeah.

[02:31:39] And then in Isaiah, the Lord says, and when you spread forth your hands, I will hide mine

[02:31:44] eyes from you.

[02:31:45] Yay.

[02:31:46] When you make many prayers, I will not hear because he's a poopy.

[02:31:50] He sure is.

[02:31:51] And then Isaiah says, you are a God that hides thyself.

[02:31:55] Yeah.

[02:31:56] Yeah.

[02:31:57] He does.

[02:31:58] But guess what?

[02:31:59] I'm wrong.

[02:32:00] You're always wrong.

[02:32:01] Yeah.

[02:32:02] Of course, God helps you in your time of need in Psalms that says, for he has not despised

[02:32:08] nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, neither has he hid his face from him, but when

[02:32:13] he cried unto him, he heard.

[02:32:16] Yeah.

[02:32:17] And it also says in Psalms, God is our refuge and our strength, a very present help in trouble.

[02:32:23] Yeah.

[02:32:24] And then it also says in Psalms, the Lord is near to all who call upon him.

[02:32:28] That's that's very nice.

[02:32:30] Yeah.

[02:32:31] That's cute.

[02:32:32] They're relevant to people that get something that they want.

[02:32:34] So he's adorable.

[02:32:35] Yeah.

[02:32:36] It's a lie.

[02:32:37] Did you find your keys?

[02:32:38] Oh, that's sweet.

[02:32:39] Yeah.

[02:32:40] Yeah.

[02:32:41] Yeah.

[02:32:42] Number three, we've covered this one multiple times, but we always cover it as we cover new

[02:32:46] material.

[02:32:47] Okay.

[02:32:48] Can God be seen?

[02:32:49] Yes or no?

[02:32:50] Ah, come.

[02:32:51] He and I, I'm going to go with no really, well, only because I, he has said it adamantly

[02:33:01] that you cannot see him and he's not going to show his face to people, but he's also

[02:33:04] said the opposite.

[02:33:05] So, you know, I, I will go with no.

[02:33:08] You're going to go with no.

[02:33:09] Okay.

[02:33:10] No, God is invisible and cannot be seen.

[02:33:12] And if you do see him, you'll fucking die in Exodus.

[02:33:16] It says, there shall no man see me and live.

[02:33:20] So yeah, you're totally right.

[02:33:21] But guess what?

[02:33:22] I'm correct.

[02:33:23] You're always wrong.

[02:33:24] I'm always wrong about that.

[02:33:26] Abraham saw God several times, Isaac saw him twice, Jacob saw God face to face and beat

[02:33:33] him in a wrestling match.

[02:33:34] Yeah.

[02:33:35] Although that might have been an angel of the Lord, not the Lord.

[02:33:38] Yeah.

[02:33:39] That was questionable.

[02:33:40] So I'll let that one pass.

[02:33:41] Right.

[02:33:42] Moses spoke to God face to face and even got a peek at God's backside.

[02:33:44] He sure did.

[02:33:45] I remember that.

[02:33:46] I mean, he just, so technically he didn't speak to him face to face.

[02:33:49] He just saw his ass.

[02:33:50] Wow.

[02:33:51] So I'm just saying.

[02:33:52] I don't know about that.

[02:33:53] Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu and 70 elders saw God.

[02:33:59] Yeah.

[02:34:00] I kind of remember that.

[02:34:01] Yeah.

[02:34:02] Job saw God after God and Satan tormented him and killed his children.

[02:34:07] And Isaiah, a man of unclean lips saw God sitting on a throne below some six-winged seraphim.

[02:34:14] Why was he unclean lips?

[02:34:16] Why did he have unclean lips?

[02:34:17] I don't remember that.

[02:34:18] I don't either.

[02:34:19] But that's what it said in the thing that was interesting.

[02:34:21] I thought maybe you would be like, oh yeah, his lips were unclean.

[02:34:25] Yeah.

[02:34:26] Now I'm curious about the unclean lips.

[02:34:27] I don't know about that.

[02:34:28] But he did see God.

[02:34:30] Oh, okay.

[02:34:31] Yeah.

[02:34:32] You're always wrong.

[02:34:33] Was this during his naked rant where he was in the way of desert non-drugs, probably?

[02:34:36] Probably.

[02:34:37] Probably.

[02:34:38] Probably.

[02:34:39] Number four.

[02:34:40] Are we punished for the sins of others?

[02:34:41] Yes.

[02:34:42] Yes, we are.

[02:34:43] God punishes children for things that their fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers and great-great-great-grandfathers did.

[02:34:49] I think even further than that.

[02:34:50] He is so proud of this that he repeated it four times twice in Exodus and once each in

[02:34:55] Deuteronomy and Numbers.

[02:34:56] I thought that even said something about punishing future generations or different people in Isaiah

[02:35:01] even.

[02:35:02] I'm not there yet.

[02:35:03] Okay, sorry.

[02:35:04] Yup.

[02:35:05] Masters don't choose to be born out of wedlock yet according to Deuteronomy.

[02:35:09] God punishes them by excluding them from his congregation and not just them, but all of

[02:35:14] their descendants for ten generations.

[02:35:16] It's crazy.

[02:35:17] Were you born out of wedlock?

[02:35:18] Fuck you.

[02:35:20] What do you need to do Deuteronomy if you fail to follow all of God's commandments?

[02:35:23] God will curse your children.

[02:35:25] Yeah.

[02:35:26] And sometimes God slaughters children for the unspecified sins of their fathers as in Isaiah.

[02:35:31] I think that's just a nice way to put their natural disasters that they don't know why

[02:35:35] they happened and they're like, well, it was probably God and you deserved it.

[02:35:38] Or yeah, probably your grandfather did something shitty.

[02:35:40] Right, yeah.

[02:35:41] Yeah.

[02:35:42] We cannot know.

[02:35:43] Right.

[02:35:44] Other examples occur in Genesis, first and second Samuels, and first and second Kings.

[02:35:48] Yeah.

[02:35:49] All of them, because that's enough.

[02:35:50] It is.

[02:35:51] But guess what also, you're always wrong, Deuteronomy, second Kings and second Chronicles all state

[02:35:59] that fathers shall not be put to death for their children and children shall not be put

[02:36:04] to death for their fathers.

[02:36:07] Well, there's some things.

[02:36:11] So a father being put to get death for his child, that's like reverse time frame.

[02:36:17] So like, that's not future generations.

[02:36:19] That's previous generation.

[02:36:21] So I guess God's okay with that.

[02:36:23] You can do something shitty and previous generations are still okay.

[02:36:26] But the future ones might still be get bad.

[02:36:29] Now the son and his children, that part, I don't quite understand because I would feel

[02:36:35] like that's still future generations.

[02:36:38] So well, it's saying that if you do something shitty, your kid can be punished and if your

[02:36:45] kid does something shitty, you can be punished.

[02:36:49] Which actually that has a lot to do with a current court case because it says the father

[02:36:56] shall not be put to death for their children.

[02:36:58] Right.

[02:36:59] You just said that they could though.

[02:37:00] Oh, I meant couldn't.

[02:37:01] Sorry.

[02:37:02] Got it.

[02:37:03] Yeah.

[02:37:04] What's interesting is that there's a current court case where one of the kids that brought

[02:37:09] a gun to school and killed other people.

[02:37:14] It's the one that was like not most recent but very recently within the past six months

[02:37:20] to a year.

[02:37:22] He was pulled aside by teachers for scary drawings that he had made and he was sent to

[02:37:33] the office because he had a gun in his backpack I think or something like that.

[02:37:41] And the drawings were like him of him shooting other kids and like blood everywhere.

[02:37:49] And him like his stick figure self saying kill them all or something.

[02:37:56] Right.

[02:37:57] And so they were like, oh, that's kind of scary.

[02:37:58] So that's why I sent him to the office.

[02:38:00] Yeah.

[02:38:01] And they called his parents in and the parents came in and had a little conference or whatever.

[02:38:05] And then the mom texted the son, I'm not mad at you.

[02:38:09] Just try not to get caught next time or something like that.

[02:38:13] I don't know how I feel about that.

[02:38:15] And he had made purchases for bullets and the parents gave him like all like they were supplying

[02:38:25] him with guns and that I'm not okay with it.

[02:38:28] Yeah.

[02:38:29] In spite of mental health issues, right, right.

[02:38:32] The school asked the kid or asked the parents, do you maybe want to take him home today?

[02:38:37] Because yeah, and the parents were like, no, he's fine, whatever.

[02:38:41] And the school was like, oh, okay.

[02:38:45] And they didn't check his backpack.

[02:38:46] They didn't check his locker.

[02:38:48] And that day he's shot up the school.

[02:38:50] Oh, wow.

[02:38:51] So the kid definitely is being held responsible or maybe he killed himself.

[02:38:55] I don't even remember.

[02:38:56] But now there is a trial.

[02:38:58] Can the parents be held responsible?

[02:39:00] Gotcha.

[02:39:01] And so they will be punished for what the kid did maybe, right?

[02:39:05] They're going to have a hard time.

[02:39:08] What's really interesting is that the mom and the dad are not, their cases are separate.

[02:39:17] They are not.

[02:39:18] Okay.

[02:39:19] Combined.

[02:39:20] And so they are each being represented by different legal counsel.

[02:39:25] And there's questions about whether they might turn on each other.

[02:39:30] So I'm really surprised that you hadn't heard about that because that's like happening like

[02:39:34] within the last week, that court stuff.

[02:39:36] Yeah, no, I had not heard about that.

[02:39:38] So we'll see what happens if the parents will be punished for their child.

[02:39:42] Right.

[02:39:43] But that's not God punishing though.

[02:39:44] No, you're right.

[02:39:45] It's not people punishing.

[02:39:47] So although, I mean, maybe God is using as a tool.

[02:39:51] Yeah, he's using the course of the master tool.

[02:39:54] Yeah.

[02:39:55] That could be argued.

[02:39:56] I guess.

[02:39:57] Yes.

[02:39:58] Number five.

[02:39:59] Well, God curse the earth.

[02:40:00] Yes.

[02:40:01] Yes.

[02:40:02] He's going to Isaiah.

[02:40:03] He promises to do it again.

[02:40:05] Yeah.

[02:40:06] But you're always wrong.

[02:40:08] Right.

[02:40:09] There's that.

[02:40:10] After the flood in Genesis, God's war, he never cursed the earth again.

[02:40:13] I don't hold much stock in God's promises.

[02:40:15] He doesn't have to follow through.

[02:40:17] Yeah.

[02:40:18] No, they're kind of shit.

[02:40:19] His covenants are weak.

[02:40:20] They really are.

[02:40:21] But I mean, anytime you make it covenant and you have to cup another man's balls when you're

[02:40:25] doing it, that automatically makes me wonder, right, you're to be trusted.

[02:40:30] Yeah.

[02:40:31] Just saying.

[02:40:32] Number six.

[02:40:33] Well, everyone see the majesty of God.

[02:40:35] Your choices are yes or no.

[02:40:37] No.

[02:40:38] No.

[02:40:39] The wicked will not see the majesty of God according to Isaiah, but guess what?

[02:40:44] I'm, I'm correct on this one.

[02:40:46] You're always wrong.

[02:40:48] Oh, fuck.

[02:40:49] Everyone will see the majesty of God according to, Oh, wait, Isaiah, hang on.

[02:40:55] Will you want you?

[02:40:56] Will you want you?

[02:40:57] Yeah.

[02:40:58] Yeah.

[02:40:59] Yeah.

[02:41:00] Number seven.

[02:41:01] Yes.

[02:41:02] Yes or no?

[02:41:03] Yes.

[02:41:04] I mean, I've seen, well, I have read, I've heard from you firsthand.

[02:41:08] Yeah.

[02:41:09] He gets fucking furious.

[02:41:10] Yeah, he does.

[02:41:11] Yeah, he does.

[02:41:12] Yeah, you're right.

[02:41:13] Isaiah indicates the indignation and fury of God is upon all nations and upon all their

[02:41:19] armies.

[02:41:20] He's pissed.

[02:41:21] He is.

[02:41:22] Remember those crimson soaked robes or whatever?

[02:41:24] I do.

[02:41:25] I do.

[02:41:26] He was a murder.

[02:41:27] That indicates to me that he was pissed.

[02:41:28] He was very angry.

[02:41:29] Yeah.

[02:41:30] But guess what?

[02:41:31] I can't be wrong on this one.

[02:41:33] This one, this one I'm so right on.

[02:41:34] Even though we just quoted Isaiah, Isaiah also quotes God as saying, fury is not in me.

[02:41:43] But no, he, there's literally points where he delights in killing people.

[02:41:47] Yeah.

[02:41:48] Like he loves this shit.

[02:41:49] Because God is created by men and men are murderous bucks.

[02:41:54] Right.

[02:41:55] They're rapey and they love slaves, you know?

[02:41:57] Yeah.

[02:41:58] Yeah.

[02:41:59] And so of course God is down with all that.

[02:42:01] Number eight, does God ever repent?

[02:42:03] No.

[02:42:04] You're right.

[02:42:05] No.

[02:42:06] The Lord says he will not repent in numbers for Samuel and Psalms.

[02:42:10] Yeah.

[02:42:11] He says it multiple times.

[02:42:12] Wait.

[02:42:13] But guess what?

[02:42:14] I'm wrong.

[02:42:15] You're always wrong.

[02:42:16] Because he does.

[02:42:17] Shocked it.

[02:42:18] Shocked I am.

[02:42:19] Shocked you are.

[02:42:20] Before the flood in Genesis and just after the sons of God had sex with the daughters of

[02:42:24] men, God repented for having made humans.

[02:42:28] Okay.

[02:42:29] And then after Aaron made the people dance naked around his golden calf in Exodus, God

[02:42:35] decided to kill all of the Israelites.

[02:42:37] But Moses talked him out of it by saying, but what will the neighbors think?

[02:42:40] Right.

[02:42:41] So God repented of the evil he'd planned to do.

[02:42:43] Yeah.

[02:42:44] And then God further repented for different stuff in Deuteronomy, Judges, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel

[02:42:50] and 1 Chronicles.

[02:42:51] Interesting.

[02:42:52] And then in Isaiah, God told Hezekiah that he would die soon, but he repented after Hezekiah's

[02:42:58] prayer.

[02:42:59] So he let Hezekiah live another 15 years.

[02:43:02] He repented or he relented?

[02:43:04] See, that's what I wondered.

[02:43:07] And that gets into like word choice.

[02:43:10] Yeah.

[02:43:11] What is the difference between repent and relent?

[02:43:13] Sure.

[02:43:14] Like, to me repent means you regret your choice and so you change your mind.

[02:43:19] Sure.

[02:43:20] I mean, God has definitely changed his mind for sure.

[02:43:22] Yeah.

[02:43:24] As he shone sorrow over his choices, because that's how I view repentance, you know, like

[02:43:30] repenting.

[02:43:31] Well, in that case, I guess none of those were examples of repenting.

[02:43:35] Right.

[02:43:36] Because none of them were actual sorrow for having made a choice.

[02:43:43] Right.

[02:43:44] Because God's always right.

[02:43:46] Well, or something.

[02:43:48] According to the Bible.

[02:43:49] Right.

[02:43:50] You know.

[02:43:51] Okay.

[02:43:52] Let's just skip that one then.

[02:43:54] Questionable.

[02:43:55] I'm not sure about that one.

[02:43:56] Yeah.

[02:43:57] Yeah.

[02:43:58] Number nine.

[02:43:59] Why did God turn the sundial back 10 degrees?

[02:44:01] This isn't a yes or no problem question.

[02:44:03] No, you, you have two options though.

[02:44:06] Okay.

[02:44:07] What are my two options?

[02:44:08] Well, I mean, you have to, if I give you both options, then you, I've just read you the

[02:44:15] answers.

[02:44:16] Right.

[02:44:17] But I got to choose one to be right or wrong though, right?

[02:44:20] And I, I, I'm having trouble remembering right now, but it, it feels like I can't, I honestly

[02:44:27] can't remember.

[02:44:28] All right.

[02:44:29] Well, we vaguely remember the thing happening.

[02:44:31] Okay.

[02:44:32] Both answers involved.

[02:44:33] It was a sign, but what was it a sign of this one to fill on the blank?

[02:44:38] I'm sorry.

[02:44:39] Um, what was it a sign of?

[02:44:43] I, I am at a loss here.

[02:44:45] Okay.

[02:44:46] Either a sign he would heal Hezekiah's boil, according to second Kings, or a sign that he

[02:44:53] would defend the city against the Assyrians, according to Isaiah.

[02:44:57] Oh, okay.

[02:44:59] Yeah.

[02:45:00] Got it.

[02:45:01] That's interesting.

[02:45:02] You can't, you can't possibly answer that.

[02:45:04] I can't.

[02:45:05] Yeah.

[02:45:06] Cause I didn't, I didn't even remember that it was in both places, let alone what it was

[02:45:09] representing.

[02:45:10] Yep.

[02:45:11] So he did those things.

[02:45:12] So that was the same sundial though.

[02:45:13] I remember talking about it at some point, but those two things were the same sundial

[02:45:19] and they did two different things in two different places.

[02:45:22] Yep.

[02:45:23] Interesting.

[02:45:24] Right.

[02:45:25] That one I'm definitely wrong on.

[02:45:26] You are totally wrong.

[02:45:27] I didn't know either of the fuck of the answers.

[02:45:28] Yep.

[02:45:29] I, I forgot like once I read, it's a sign of, I was like, Oh yeah, I know this one.

[02:45:31] And then I was like, wait a minute.

[02:45:34] I do remember that it was a sign.

[02:45:36] Right.

[02:45:37] Right.

[02:45:38] Huh.

[02:45:39] All right.

[02:45:40] Number 10.

[02:45:41] Who or what is the ransom for the righteous?

[02:45:44] Who or what is the ransom for the righteous?

[02:45:48] Who or what?

[02:45:49] If you admit that you're wrong, I'll just read you all your choices.

[02:45:53] I admit that I'm wrong because I don't recall.

[02:45:56] So sing it.

[02:45:57] Say, I'm always wrong.

[02:45:59] I'm always wrong.

[02:46:00] Okay.

[02:46:01] You heard it here guys.

[02:46:02] Okay.

[02:46:03] So here's, here's the different choices.

[02:46:09] The wicked according to proverbs are the ransom for the righteous.

[02:46:14] Riches according to proverbs are the ransom for the righteous or no one and nothing according

[02:46:20] to both Job and Isaiah.

[02:46:23] There is no ransom for the righteous.

[02:46:26] Okay.

[02:46:27] I'm not even sure following this.

[02:46:29] Do I know what that means?

[02:46:30] Yeah.

[02:46:31] No.

[02:46:32] Right.

[02:46:33] Okay.

[02:46:34] But it was said.

[02:46:35] Okay.

[02:46:36] So that's a contradiction.

[02:46:37] There we go.

[02:46:38] There's a contradiction that I have no idea what it's about.

[02:46:39] So what happened?

[02:46:40] It was there.

[02:46:41] There's a thing.

[02:46:42] Yep.

[02:46:43] Number 11.

[02:46:44] How many gods are there?

[02:46:45] We've covered this before.

[02:46:46] But again, as we cover new material, I'm going to go with zero.

[02:46:50] Well, I agree with you.

[02:46:51] But that's not one of your choices.

[02:46:52] You've got one or several.

[02:46:54] If we're going with those two choices, I go with several.

[02:46:57] Okay.

[02:46:58] I either none or infinity, right?

[02:47:01] Right.

[02:47:02] Yeah.

[02:47:09] So I'm just going to say, you know, if I'm going to say that there could be gods, I'm

[02:47:13] already gone.

[02:47:14] They all have equal opportunity.

[02:47:15] Yeah.

[02:47:16] They all have equal opportunity to prove themselves, whichever one beats beats the other gods

[02:47:19] to the point, then that guy can be God for the day for something.

[02:47:22] Yeah.

[02:47:23] I don't know.

[02:47:24] All right.

[02:47:25] So you're right.

[02:47:26] According to Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy, 1 Samuel, 1st and 2nd Chronicles and Psalms.

[02:47:32] That's a lot of right.

[02:47:33] They all acknowledge the existence of multiple gods.

[02:47:37] That is a lot of right.

[02:47:38] I don't say I am the only God who exists.

[02:47:41] They say of all the gods who do exist because there are many who exist.

[02:47:46] Right.

[02:47:47] I'm the biggest, baddest motherfucker.

[02:47:49] Sounds to me that just like on the predominance of evidence here in the Bible that I am correct.

[02:47:54] However, you're always wrong.

[02:47:58] Fuck you, Isaiah.

[02:47:59] Fuck you, God.

[02:48:00] Only one God, according to Deuteronomy, 1 Kings and Isaiah, they all indicate in multiple places

[02:48:06] that there is none else or things to that effect.

[02:48:11] That's what they say.

[02:48:12] Yeah.

[02:48:13] That is what they say in those places.

[02:48:14] Yeah.

[02:48:15] But I think they're always wrong.

[02:48:16] I think the whole book is wrong because I still think it's zero.

[02:48:18] Yeah.

[02:48:19] It is zero.

[02:48:20] There you go.

[02:48:21] I think I was correct on that one.

[02:48:22] But we are looking for contradictions in the Bible and zero was not one of the options in

[02:48:28] the Bible.

[02:48:30] Number 12, does God ever tire?

[02:48:34] Yes.

[02:48:35] He has taken naps before.

[02:48:36] They recall.

[02:48:37] Yeah.

[02:48:38] For like generations even.

[02:48:39] Yeah.

[02:48:40] Yes.

[02:48:41] Sometimes he tires.

[02:48:42] Yes.

[02:48:43] God was tired after the creation and Genesis.

[02:48:45] Right.

[02:48:46] Right.

[02:48:47] And God is weary of people and their iniquities in Isaiah.

[02:48:49] He says so.

[02:48:50] I mean, he seems to be weary of us all the time because he's always fucking pissed off

[02:48:53] and weary of us.

[02:48:54] But remember how I was just talking about Isaiah?

[02:48:57] Yeah.

[02:48:58] Yeah.

[02:48:59] You're always wrong because Isaiah also states that God never gets tired.

[02:49:03] Ah.

[02:49:04] So.

[02:49:05] And you know what?

[02:49:06] We kind of comment on this as we're going through Isaiah, how through the whole book, everything

[02:49:10] was back and forth.

[02:49:11] Yes.

[02:49:12] Like there was, you could almost write your own story out of it because they're for everything

[02:49:17] that they said on one side, they said the exact opposite on the other side.

[02:49:20] Yeah.

[02:49:21] And it was, you could just, you could interpret it and say what you want from it from pretty

[02:49:25] much any perspective.

[02:49:26] It was really dumb.

[02:49:28] My very favorite of all of the contradictions are when they fall within the same goddamn book.

[02:49:33] You know, those are the best.

[02:49:35] Like that's how you know that shit is all fucked up.

[02:49:38] Yeah.

[02:49:39] Because even the writer of one book cannot get it straight.

[02:49:42] Right.

[02:49:43] You say the writer as a one, but yeah, pretend, whatever.

[02:49:47] Number 13 is God the creator of evil, mmm, depending on the day, right?

[02:49:53] Yes.

[02:49:54] You're going with yes.

[02:49:55] Yes.

[02:49:56] Yeah.

[02:49:57] Okay.

[02:49:58] Because he creates everything according to the Bible.

[02:49:59] Sure.

[02:50:00] Yeah.

[02:50:01] And second Kings in Job and in Isaiah, right?

[02:50:05] Okay.

[02:50:06] Yeah.

[02:50:07] He's the one who brings the evil.

[02:50:08] Yeah.

[02:50:09] To the table.

[02:50:10] But guess what?

[02:50:11] I, I'm you're always wrong.

[02:50:13] I didn't even let you know that sentence.

[02:50:14] No, God is not the creator of evil.

[02:50:17] All right.

[02:50:18] It is said of God in Psalms for thou art, not a God that have that have pleasure in wickedness

[02:50:25] neither shall evil dwell with thee.

[02:50:28] Okay.

[02:50:29] No evil.

[02:50:30] Yeah.

[02:50:31] I don't know what he said.

[02:50:32] Don.

[02:50:33] Except for, you remember, um, what was it?

[02:50:34] He just did.

[02:50:35] He did something that was really fucking evil.

[02:50:37] I think it was the killing of people like it was, and it was, I don't remember.

[02:50:42] I was trying to think of something specific, now I can't think of it.

[02:50:44] So, well, he's an evil fuck.

[02:50:46] He is an evil fuck.

[02:50:47] Yeah.

[02:50:48] I will.

[02:50:49] Yeah.

[02:50:50] That is completely true.

[02:50:51] Even without examples.

[02:50:52] Right.

[02:50:53] Yes.

[02:50:54] Okay.

[02:50:55] Number 14.

[02:50:56] Okay.

[02:50:57] May a eunuch enter into the congregation of the Lord.

[02:50:58] According to Isaiah.

[02:50:59] Yeah.

[02:51:00] In Isaiah, God seemed to prefer eunuchs to everyone else, giving them a better place

[02:51:05] and a never lasting name.

[02:51:07] Right.

[02:51:08] True.

[02:51:09] But guess what?

[02:51:10] Well, I already know.

[02:51:11] I already know.

[02:51:12] Yeah.

[02:51:13] The answer is no.

[02:51:14] In Leviticus and Deuteronomy eunuchs, along with other blemished people and outcasts are

[02:51:18] excluded from all types of religious activity.

[02:51:21] How am I supposed to believe anything from Leviticus when even Levites are not even like

[02:51:26] a secure thing anymore?

[02:51:27] I know.

[02:51:28] I can't.

[02:51:29] Everything is, everything is questionable.

[02:51:30] Everything is, is up in the air.

[02:51:32] Once the Levites became not inherited, but instead just a position that anybody could

[02:51:41] uphold, that is the moment when I started doubting the Bible.

[02:51:46] Right.

[02:51:47] Yeah.

[02:51:48] That's the.

[02:51:49] No, no.

[02:51:50] Sorry, I agreed for a second.

[02:51:51] I know.

[02:51:52] It was pretty much the first chapter.

[02:51:53] Yeah.

[02:51:54] Yeah.

[02:51:55] Yeah.

[02:51:56] We made it all the way to Isaiah before we say hold on.

[02:52:00] On a second.

[02:52:01] He's not right in this one.

[02:52:02] In no way whatsoever.

[02:52:03] Right.

[02:52:04] Right.

[02:52:05] All right.

[02:52:06] Number 15, will the righteous flourish again, according to Isaiah?

[02:52:10] I think so, except for, and when God thinks that they're warm sometimes maybe, but so we'll

[02:52:15] go with yes.

[02:52:16] Okay.

[02:52:17] Well, the righteous will flourish according to Psalms, but the righteous will perish according

[02:52:24] to Isaiah.

[02:52:25] Ah, yeah.

[02:52:26] Ah.

[02:52:27] I thought he said that they were going to do good in Isaiah too.

[02:52:29] Well, he also said they were going to be bad.

[02:52:31] Okay.

[02:52:32] All right.

[02:52:33] He said they're going, everybody's going to die.

[02:52:34] I mean, that's true regardless.

[02:52:35] So you're all going to die and even even the righteous and none of you get nothing.

[02:52:42] Right.

[02:52:43] Right.

[02:52:44] Number 16.

[02:52:45] Ooh, I've asked this one before.

[02:52:47] Is it okay to use perfume?

[02:52:49] No.

[02:52:50] Correct.

[02:52:51] No.

[02:52:52] Perfume is for God, not for you, according to Exodus.

[02:52:56] Unless course you're rude.

[02:52:57] I remember rude.

[02:52:58] In Isaiah, the daughters of Zion used perfume.

[02:53:01] So God discovered their quote secret parts.

[02:53:04] Got it.

[02:53:05] Yeah.

[02:53:06] Okay.

[02:53:07] And wearing perfume debases you right into hell according to Isaiah.

[02:53:10] Huh?

[02:53:11] Okay.

[02:53:12] Yeah.

[02:53:13] But yes, of course it's okay to use perfume.

[02:53:16] Proverbs states that perfume rejoices the heart and Esther used it to.

[02:53:20] Oh, Esther.

[02:53:21] Yeah.

[02:53:22] That's why I ignored it.

[02:53:23] Sorry.

[02:53:24] Sorry.

[02:53:25] Yeah.

[02:53:26] And she was one of God's favorite women.

[02:53:29] Yeah.

[02:53:30] And the author of the Song of Solomon was a big fan of perfume.

[02:53:33] Hmm.

[02:53:34] So there you go.

[02:53:35] Yeah.

[02:53:36] Okay.

[02:53:37] Yeah.

[02:53:38] Yes and no and yes and no.

[02:53:39] Yes and no and yes and no.

[02:53:40] No.

[02:53:41] Number 17.

[02:53:42] Has there ever been a righteous person?

[02:53:44] Job.

[02:53:45] Wasn't Job a righteous person?

[02:53:47] Yes.

[02:53:48] Yes.

[02:53:49] Noah was called righteous and Genesis.

[02:53:50] David was called righteous in 2 Samuel and God speaks of the righteous in general in

[02:53:56] Psalms, Proverbs and Isaiah but yeah, I didn't mention Job but yeah, he was also

[02:54:00] called righteous.

[02:54:01] Yeah.

[02:54:02] Yeah.

[02:54:03] So but guess what?

[02:54:04] What?

[02:54:05] No.

[02:54:06] You're always wrong.

[02:54:07] Why can't I ever be right?

[02:54:08] Since childbirth is a dirty process that involves women, how could any of us be clean

[02:54:13] or righteous?

[02:54:14] Okay.

[02:54:15] We can't.

[02:54:16] And we aren't.

[02:54:17] Job and Isaiah both remind us that we are all unclean, unrighteous, filthy rags.

[02:54:23] I see.

[02:54:24] Yeah.

[02:54:25] Even though that's a shame.

[02:54:27] Even though Job was a righteous man.

[02:54:29] Right.

[02:54:30] Yeah.

[02:54:31] But he does remind us that we fucking suck.

[02:54:34] I love it when people remind me that I suck.

[02:54:36] You know, that's such a great way to start a conversation with somebody.

[02:54:39] Hey, by the way, just a reminder, you suck.

[02:54:42] You are a worm and you are equivalent to menstrual blood anyway, go on.

[02:54:48] And what did you want to talk about?

[02:54:50] If you don't bow down before this invisible deity, then you are even more shit.

[02:54:55] You're already covered in dukey, but no, please go on.

[02:54:59] What did you want to talk about?

[02:55:01] Like, I think I should use that.

[02:55:04] Like, if we run into Christians that knock on our door again or something, I'm going to

[02:55:09] be like, I'm sorry.

[02:55:10] It's just that you're covered in sin.

[02:55:12] I only talk to righteous folk and you are basically equivalent to a menstrual rag.

[02:55:19] Right.

[02:55:20] And I'm just quoting the Bible.

[02:55:22] I'm very sorry.

[02:55:23] Right.

[02:55:24] I hope that after life cheats too well, but it probably won't because according to Job

[02:55:31] and Isaiah, none of us are going to heaven.

[02:55:35] So fuck off.

[02:55:36] Right.

[02:55:37] Okay.

[02:55:38] Number 18, does God desire animal sacrifices?

[02:55:42] No.

[02:55:43] No, that is right.

[02:55:45] No.

[02:55:46] The book of Psalms is the first book of the Bible to claim that God does not desire animal

[02:55:50] sacrifices and some prophets like Isaiah make the same claim.

[02:55:55] Yeah.

[02:55:56] But guess what?

[02:55:57] I know.

[02:55:58] The final time I'm going to say this, this episode, yeah, you're always wrong.

[02:56:04] Yeah.

[02:56:05] All right.

[02:56:06] I had to make it big because it's the final.

[02:56:08] Yeah.

[02:56:09] Yeah.

[02:56:10] Okay.

[02:56:11] God's love for animal sacrifice is shown early in the Bible.

[02:56:13] Cain offers God his fruit while Abel kills his firstborn sheep and offers their dead bodies

[02:56:18] and fat to God.

[02:56:20] Yeah.

[02:56:21] God have respect for Abel sacrifice, but not for Cain.

[02:56:25] The first thing that Noah did after the flood was build an altar and sacrifice clean beasts

[02:56:30] and fowls to God and the Lord smelled a sweet saver.

[02:56:34] You love that smell, remember?

[02:56:35] He loves the smell of stuff.

[02:56:37] Yeah.

[02:56:38] Yeah.

[02:56:39] Yeah.

[02:56:40] God promised Abraham that he would inherit all of the land from Egypt to the Euphrates River

[02:56:45] when Abraham asked God for a sign, God told him to kill a three year old heifer and a

[02:56:50] three year old ram along with a turtle dove and a young pigeon.

[02:56:55] Abraham did as he was told in that evening, God lit the whole bloody mess on fire.

[02:57:00] Okay.

[02:57:01] Finally, God commanded the Israelites to build an altar for animal sacrifices.

[02:57:07] He then gave the Israelites dozens of commandments, telling them in great detail.

[02:57:11] Oh, it was.

[02:57:12] He wanted animals.

[02:57:13] He wanted them to kill for him and how he wanted them killed and burn for a sweet saver

[02:57:18] unto the Lord.

[02:57:19] And don't forget that long lube of the liver.

[02:57:22] Exactly.

[02:57:23] You got to do it right.

[02:57:24] And you got to do it on the right side of the tent.

[02:57:26] Yeah.

[02:57:27] Yeah.

[02:57:28] Yeah.

[02:57:29] Spotted that blood in the correct places.

[02:57:30] Yes.

[02:57:31] The rituals involved things like wiping blood on the thumbs and big toes of the priest sprinkling

[02:57:35] blood on the people, burning fat and pouring blood on the altar.

[02:57:40] Yeah.

[02:57:41] Good times.

[02:57:42] That was so pagan.

[02:57:44] Yummy.

[02:57:45] Right.

[02:57:46] Yeah.

[02:57:47] Hey, so that is it for you're always wrong.

[02:57:49] All right.

[02:57:50] And we are out of here.

[02:57:52] That's Isaiah.

[02:57:53] That's Isaiah bitches.

[02:57:54] Fucking done.

[02:57:55] I know.

[02:57:56] I couldn't I couldn't get out of here.

[02:57:57] Fast enough.

[02:57:58] I'm like, we're done by well, congratulations to everybody who has made it to here with us

[02:58:05] tonight.

[02:58:06] Yup.

[02:58:07] Today.

[02:58:08] Today.

[02:58:10] Congratulations on finishing a really fucking long book of Isaiah.

[02:58:13] Yeah.

[02:58:14] And not that great.

[02:58:15] Yes.

[02:58:16] So congrats.

[02:58:17] You did it.

[02:58:18] You did it.

[02:58:19] We did it.

[02:58:20] Yeah.

[02:58:21] I'm so proud of us.

[02:58:22] We all did it together.

[02:58:23] I'm really proud of us.

[02:58:24] I have to.

[02:58:25] Yeah.

[02:58:26] We're getting right through this.

[02:58:27] We are.

[02:58:28] So I'll be getting out the weekly wrap up here soon.

[02:58:31] And then tomorrow we will be back with Jeremiah chapter one.

[02:58:36] All right.

[02:58:37] We'll see you guys then.

[02:58:38] Bye.

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