Ezekiel Chapters 11 - 15 Q&A: Bible Study by Atheists

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[00:01:23] We had a couple of questions basically from Ezekiel chapters 11 and 12

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[00:01:30] Chapters 11 through 15, okay, but the specifically questions that we had came from those two chapters

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[00:04:38] All right, so we are here with our Q&A

[00:04:43] Going over chapters 11 through 15 of easy Kyle easy kill. Yep easy Kyle

[00:04:49] Yeah, and I thought I would go over a real quick easy question and then the more confusing

[00:04:57] Longer answer

[00:04:58] Question after that. It's an easy question, but it's an easy Kyle question. It is okay actually just check in um in chapter

[00:05:06] 11 verse 3 it reads they say haven't our houses been recently built

[00:05:12] This city is a pot and we are the meat in it

[00:05:15] Yeah, and we had questions like honestly what the fuck right? We didn't really get that whole

[00:05:22] Analogy thing and it just didn't we kind of just read over it. We were like, okay, whatever God. Yeah me in a pot

[00:05:29] Whatever yeah, we can imagine ish

[00:05:33] Well with regard to the rebuilding of houses. Yeah, that was a symbol that

[00:05:41] Peace was happening. Got it. Okay when they said having our houses been recently rebuilt

[00:05:47] They were like what it's you know, we're confident that all is well and it's peacetime

[00:05:54] And you know, we can go ahead and ignore all threats of any further Babylonian invasion. Got it. Yeah

[00:06:02] So that's what that part referred to okay as far as the pot

[00:06:07] The city would be a shield around them as the cauldron is to seething flesh

[00:06:15] Okay, okay

[00:06:16] They were looking at themselves not in like a pot on the stove

[00:06:19] But more as like a Tupperware dish. Okay, okay, they were protected there and also

[00:06:27] That they are choice pieces of meat. They are the fancy ones

[00:06:32] Okay in Jerusalem that is right, okay

[00:06:35] They were they were the good folk left behind like they kind of looked down on the people who had already been

[00:06:43] Exiled kidnapped picked up and got it elsewhere. Yeah

[00:06:47] So the people left behind felt like they were the good ends

[00:06:50] They were the choice meat and they were being stored safely in within their little

[00:06:55] City, yeah, okay

[00:06:57] And and it made them feel good to think that got it as for the meat

[00:07:01] The metaphor seems to imply like I said that the people in Jerusalem were the choice cuts of meat

[00:07:07] Well, the exiles in Babylon were just the scraps and rejected pieces and we know

[00:07:12] From what we've read that it was exactly the opposite that when

[00:07:17] Babylon and Assyria before them came into a city

[00:07:22] They would kidnap the cream of the crop right and you know slowly over and over again

[00:07:27] So that all that was left was the dregs. Sure

[00:07:30] So, but I mean if you are those people that are left you are obviously gonna view yourself in a better light

[00:07:34] You're gonna find any reason to

[00:07:38] I'm not trying to talk about how they felt right

[00:07:43] I'm just saying it was a common war practice to

[00:07:47] Take yeah the cream of the crop people right the more talented the more rich the more skilled

[00:07:55] Because then it it leaves the more

[00:07:59] Less qualified well and also those are generally people that are leaders in the community which

[00:08:05] cuts down on people fighting against the people trying to exactly you exactly like not only are the only people left

[00:08:14] Unlikely to be able to fight, but they are also less likely to be able to lead right so yeah

[00:08:21] That's what I mean by dregs of society got it. They were just there was no reason to kidnap them sure

[00:08:28] So it's just ironic that they felt that they were you know

[00:08:32] The choice meet and that they were safe in their little Tupperware dish. Yeah, so

[00:08:39] Going on to verse 6 then it says you have killed many people in the city and filled its streets with the dead

[00:08:45] And then verse 7 says therefore this is what the sovereign Lord says the bodies you have thrown there are the

[00:08:51] Meat and this city is the pot, but I will drive you out of it

[00:08:55] And that means Jerusalem is no longer a crock in which the food is secured store Lee or is securely stored. Sorry

[00:09:04] Yeah, that was my dyslexia acting up

[00:09:08] Instead she is now a pot over the fire in which the meat is being cooked got it

[00:09:13] So now she's that pot

[00:09:14] She's not the Tupperware dish anymore unless you're talking about putting your Tupperware dish in the microwave

[00:09:19] Right, which you know that could be a thing. Yeah

[00:09:22] But regardless Jerusalem is not gonna be a protection for them anymore and God is gonna scatter the people

[00:09:29] Okay, so we just had some kind of questions about that and we're like a little

[00:09:35] Just clarifying clarifying basically. Yeah, I wouldn't say we were confused. It just seemed like an odd thing to say

[00:09:41] Yeah, so that's what that meant. Okay. Okay now moving on to chapter 12

[00:09:46] Yeah

[00:09:48] We had some confusion as to where

[00:09:52] Ezekiel was when he was

[00:09:55] Doing his little pantomime shit where he was packing his bag and right tending to go into exile

[00:10:00] We thought maybe that he was back in Jerusalem and this was taking place before anybody was exiled

[00:10:07] Well, and I know so I just to interject here real quick

[00:10:10] I know that you had said that I was confused too. So like there was a

[00:10:16] There was you had said that he was part of the second exile which confused me a little bit

[00:10:20] Because I was thinking that the second exile was the one where basically Jerusalem was sacked, right?

[00:10:26] Right, but it's not there. There was essentially three exiles. There was one in 605

[00:10:31] There was one in 597 and then one in like

[00:10:36] 586 and those are the three eggs and the last one was when the last one right, right

[00:10:42] But but when they refer to the second exile they're referring to the 597 one, which is when

[00:10:48] Ezekiel went to Babylon essentially so and that's where he was when he was doing his little

[00:10:54] pantomime stuff right and we were confused because we're like they're already in exile. So why would he be talking about?

[00:11:01] Exile to the exiled right. Yeah, it's just weird

[00:11:04] So in chapter 12 verse 3 it reads therefore son of man pack your belongings for exile and in the daytime as they

[00:11:12] Watch set out and go from where you are to another place

[00:11:15] So it would have seemed like he was back in vision land or else that this took place prior to him having left

[00:11:24] Jerusalem that he was speaking to the people of Judah or Jerusalem. Yeah, but

[00:11:31] No, he was actually doing this show for the Babylonian exiles. Okay, and here's why

[00:11:38] God commanded Ezekiel to act as if he were going into captivity or exile

[00:11:43] Even though he was already an exile in Babylon

[00:11:46] God wanted him to act this out among the exiles to make a message from God clear that all those

[00:11:54] Remaining in Judah would go into captivity and it's important to keep in mind that there were many false prophets during this time in

[00:12:02] Judah Jerusalem and even among the exiles in Babylon and

[00:12:08] They the the false prophets were promising that God would rescue his people from the Babylonians

[00:12:14] Got it

[00:12:15] So he was speaking to his brethren saying he's like no we ain't gonna get rescued

[00:12:21] Yeah, he's saying you know that thing that we went through this thing that I'm play acting our folks back home

[00:12:27] We're gonna be doing this too in a minute. Right. Just you know

[00:12:32] stop with your nonsense right and

[00:12:35] Rival prophets were foretelling a speedy return to a flourishing Jerusalem and he was like shaking his head

[00:12:41] No, not gonna happen

[00:12:42] Got it

[00:12:43] It was likely hoped that this action would make the refugees realize that those left in Jerusalem would shortly be joining

[00:12:50] Those who had already been deported to Babylon

[00:12:53] So that makes a little bit more sense in regard to where he was and what he was doing

[00:13:01] sure

[00:13:02] But it seems like really weird that he had to play act this and couldn't just be like hey

[00:13:08] Those guys back home are gonna have to pack their bags soon. So says the Lord, right?

[00:13:15] Like I don't know the whole play acting thing just

[00:13:19] Just unnecessary and dramatic and yeah, but I guess if he's doing this all day

[00:13:26] He's probably gathering a crowd

[00:13:28] Then you know when they're like look at this freak look what he's doing

[00:13:32] Look, he's digging holes and walls and shit. Hey watch this guy

[00:13:36] And then as they gather then he can stand up and be like so this is what I was doing

[00:13:41] Before a large crowd. Well, and it seems like they are very big on demonstration like this the Zikil in particular

[00:13:49] Is really big on demonstrations, right? Yes

[00:13:52] There was that whole hypothetical year and a half where is he he was supposed to like lie on the ground and

[00:13:58] You know shit on the floor whatever you was doing a day for every year of sin or yeah

[00:14:03] Yeah, it was really so like that was supposed to be a performance in front of people

[00:14:07] This is supposed to be a performance in front of people, right? He had

[00:14:11] All the elders over at his house and that's when he had one of his visions

[00:14:14] That was kind of a performance in front of people sure, you know like there's just all this like performative

[00:14:20] Performance art. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's interesting and and also the the stories in Ezekiel are very fantastical

[00:14:28] Also, yes, so it seems almost like

[00:14:31] It's almost try hard, you know, like it's it's really over the top. Yeah, it's yeah

[00:14:37] It is a lot Ezekiel is a lot

[00:14:39] I will say that yeah, and I feel like maybe it was more about

[00:14:44] shock and all

[00:14:46] To to really capture the

[00:14:48] Imagination of the people that he was talking to then it is about the truth of what he hypothetically was hearing from God, right?

[00:14:55] You know, I would expect this play acting show from

[00:15:00] Earlier cultures who were still developing language, but to find that these people are

[00:15:07] Capable of using words. They're at the point where they're writing shit down

[00:15:12] But still they're like I'm going to pantomime eating instead of just saying the words. I'm hungry, right?

[00:15:20] Like what just use your words bro. Yeah, I don't know different cultures different times

[00:15:27] Obviously, I can't possibly put my head into that space, but sure so that's what that was about

[00:15:33] Okay, was that all the

[00:15:35] Cues that were a and today that I ate all the cues that we had a all the cues okay?

[00:15:41] Well, this is short episode. It was it was all right

[00:15:43] Well, hopefully I cleared up any confusion that we might have had

[00:15:47] I think that helped out a lot like I was I was confused like I said about the the time how many how many

[00:15:53] Exiles there were yeah, because I thought there was only really two that they were counting mm-hmm, and there are three so

[00:16:00] That was a that was a bit confusing for me, and I think that's where I got hung up throughout the week

[00:16:04] so mm-hmm, but yeah that definitely clears up some stuff and

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