Jeremiah Chapter 38: Atheist Bible Study

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[00:01:15] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. I'm husband and I'm wife. Together we're

[00:01:20] reading the Bible for the very first time. We grew up without religion and

[00:01:24] wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Well, what have we learned so far? That

[00:01:27] God is a dick and apparently some people believe in talking donkeys. We're not

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[00:01:43] wherever you like. Alright let's go read the Bible. Yeah let's get to it.

[00:01:48] Husband, wife, two in a row. What? Hey what? We're recording two in the same day. Well we are a bit behind so yeah

[00:02:00] we wanted to catch up a little bit and get things back on track here. But we just

[00:02:05] finished Jeremiah chapter 37. That is correct. Do you remember what happened? Well let's see I think

[00:02:13] well the important bit is this I think is that they the Israelites recognize that

[00:02:19] Jeremiah is actually a spy. I mean okay the Jerusalem guys did not specifically be like

[00:02:31] no he's a fucking spy. He's a fucking spy. Like that wasn't declared by Jerusalem but a guard

[00:02:36] certainly did say those words right right yeah they threw him in a pit. Yeah and then

[00:02:42] Kings that a Kaya asks the opinion about something and then they threw him in the

[00:02:46] better jail. The better jail. I mean the last pit like jail. The last pit like jail yeah

[00:02:51] yeah the good jail instead of the bad jail. Right and it was a story that we'd heard

[00:02:55] before it was the one the Babylonians went to go fight Egypt instead of Israel

[00:03:00] and there was a cease and the siege and all that wonderful stuff but they were

[00:03:04] like hang on you just sit right here don't go anywhere. Right yeah I'll deal with you in

[00:03:08] just a minute. So that was Jeremiah chapter 37. Sure it's fucking was. Which means that we're

[00:03:14] getting into Jeremiah chapter 38. All right let's do this. Okay okay.

[00:03:19] All right we are getting into Jeremiah chapter 38. Okay and as has been usual for the last

[00:03:36] several chapters I have a couple notes before we begin. Okay first of all this chapter is numbered

[00:03:42] as Jeremiah chapter 45 in the Septuagint which is the Greek translation. Sure okay and also this

[00:03:50] chapter is part of that narrative that I described yesterday that is its own little section. Right

[00:03:57] and that is chapters 37 through 44. Okay all right so here we go getting into it are you ready?

[00:04:05] I'm ready as I'm going to be. Yeah okay now chef attaya you know chef attaya. I don't really

[00:04:13] though he's the son of matan. Don't know that guy either. Okay so that guy plus Get a liar the son

[00:04:20] of Pesher plus Jakal the son of Shalamaya lots of guys and push her the son of Melchaya. Okay

[00:04:28] so a bunch of guys all those people. They heard the words that Jeremiah had spoken to all the people

[00:04:34] saying thus says the Lord he who remains in this city shall die by the sword by famine and by

[00:04:40] pestilence. You sure I said that a lot yeah but he who goes over to the Chaldeans shall live remember

[00:04:45] he was telling them you should probably just give up. I totally believe that. No I know my life. Yeah

[00:04:52] it's what he is. Yeah his life shall be as a prize to him and he shall live thus says the Lord

[00:04:58] this city shall surely be given into the hand of the king of Babylon's army which shall take it

[00:05:04] okay so I think it's not the the Lord saying this is the king of Babylon saying this yeah and if

[00:05:10] you give up I won't kill you. Yeah and Jeremiah is like trying to get the people to not die. Yeah

[00:05:17] Jeremiah may even be a good guy in all this. I don't know but because he's in so far as he doesn't

[00:05:22] want his people to die right assuming that that's why he's doing this and not just trying to save his

[00:05:27] own ass. Right who knows yeah what he sure comes across as a fucking spy he does he does and I'm not

[00:05:34] necessarily convinced that he's in the wrong for being a spy but he's certainly not hearing from

[00:05:41] God. Right he's just a political tool. That's what I'm saying this is just all politics yeah. Yeah

[00:05:46] okay so therefore yeah because Jeremiah kept spouting that shit. The princes those four guys

[00:05:53] that I mentioned. Well these are the good princes are the bad princes. The bad princes remember

[00:05:57] sorry there were some lot of princes. Yeah but the good ones were 15 years ago we're done with them.

[00:06:01] Yeah we bounce around time when in general. But remember we're in the narrative. Yeah we're in

[00:06:06] this this solid narrative section okay so you know those same princes that were mean and bad

[00:06:12] yeah that were like throw them in jail toss them in the pit. They're the same ones take them to

[00:06:17] that scribe Jonathan's house. Yeah he's got a dungeon. Okay those guys. Yeah okay said to the king

[00:06:25] please let this man be put to fucking death. For thus he weakens the hands of the men of war

[00:06:32] who remain in this city he's bad for morale. I mean it's not actually not a bad argument really

[00:06:38] way and so far as I mean if this guy is like just spouting in spy shit you're all gonna die

[00:06:44] you're all gonna die lay down your arms. It's not good for morale. Yeah yeah so they're like

[00:06:49] he's bad for the men of war who remain in the city and the hands of all the people by speaking

[00:06:55] such words to them. Yeah I don't disagree. I'm not saying that look whether God the gist or not

[00:07:02] that's well it's not really up for debate but I mean you know in the realm that we are entertaining

[00:07:07] that idea yeah let's just say that's up for debate. Sure but in canon that's okay. In canon yeah

[00:07:13] but like if you're in the minority and you're you're ruining morale in a city you are not good for

[00:07:20] that city right in that moment. Exactly in time in that in that point in history. Yeah so they

[00:07:25] are not mistaken they're not nice guys but they're not wrong right that guys can sometimes be right

[00:07:31] and we were only hearing Jeremiah and Baruch sides yeah you know I mean to be fair. Yeah for this

[00:07:37] man these princes are still talking about Jeremiah. This man does not seek the welfare of this

[00:07:42] people but they're harmed. Yeah they're not right about that I don't think. I mean I think that's

[00:07:51] I think that they just disagree about the best course of action. Sure and I think it's wrong to

[00:07:56] say that he just wants us all to fucking die. But also you have to look at it from the spy perspective

[00:08:01] and if he's conspiring to people that are trying to demolish the city as opposed to conspiring with

[00:08:07] people like the Egyptians who occasionally try to help them out. Right it looks like he's trying to

[00:08:12] do harm you know I'm just saying okay so you're saying you're saying that they want us to lay down

[00:08:18] our arms so that they can just kill us all. Well how are you supposed to know what they're going

[00:08:22] to do? Okay I see. Like he's saying he knows but like they're gonna they're fighting us they're

[00:08:27] they're at war with their attack. So they might go how are we supposed to trust what they're

[00:08:31] gonna do to us? That's fair that's hell in the past the Israelites have destroyed entire heaped

[00:08:35] them up in piles and you know I mean burn the bodies why would they seek to have something

[00:08:41] different done to them you know like I would expect to say maybe you're right then Zedekaya the king

[00:08:47] said look he's in your hand for the king can do nothing against you so Zedekaya was very cowardly

[00:08:54] did not stand up to them. Didn't have a lot of power. No clearly and I have some notes about

[00:09:00] this whole happening okay so those guys that I told you about they were princes of Judah

[00:09:07] and they were men connected to the royal family in various fashions okay so they were aristocrats

[00:09:14] aristocrats somebody loves Disney it's me they were aristocrats who had their own status

[00:09:22] and interests to protect as the catastrophe of the complete Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem drew me

[00:09:28] yeah so they were trying to protect their own selves and I don't exactly blame them. No I don't

[00:09:33] neither I don't neither but it's just so complicated you know right all right so they took Jeremiah

[00:09:40] and cast him into the dungeon of Melchaya the king's son which was in the court of the prison.

[00:09:46] I feel like they should have called the dungeon of Melchaya because that sounds really ominous

[00:09:50] you know that's the name of a band right dungeon of Melchaya Melchaya's dungeon and they let

[00:09:57] Jeremiah down with ropes oh damn they wanted them to die but they didn't want to kill him themselves

[00:10:03] right so they lowered him with ropes okay and in the dungeon there was no water but Meyer

[00:10:09] so Jeremiah sink in the Meyer damn yeah so okay I have more notes ready yeah I'm ready okay

[00:10:17] so the dungeon as described is assumed to be a sister most houses in Jerusalem had private

[00:10:24] sisters for storing the water collected during a rainfall or from a nearby spring wait wasn't

[00:10:29] he just an assistant the last time and then he got taken out of it and now he got in one he was

[00:10:34] in one and then he asked please could you not right could I please get out of here I'm gonna die

[00:10:40] right and so yeah then he was put in the the better prison but clearly he was still able to come

[00:10:48] and go because he went right back out there and was talking his shit again and these princes were like

[00:10:54] excuse you right you need to get back into that pit okay all right so they threw him into a different

[00:10:59] one right but very carefully with their dainty little polish sure yeah um these sisters were usually

[00:11:06] pear-shaped with a small opening at the top which could be covered over if necessary to prevent

[00:11:11] accidents or contamination of the water okay so he's in this pit that yeah has no water in it but

[00:11:19] it's just like mud at the bottom so he's like slowly squalching around in just the mud right

[00:11:25] right so not fun not fun and also I don't know if you recall the description of the sister from

[00:11:32] the previous chapter but he could not stand he couldn't lay comfortably like it was just

[00:11:38] not a place that people are supposed to be yeah it's for fucking water right not people right don't

[00:11:44] get in a sister right just maybe you should write a sticky note in case you forget don't get in

[00:11:52] sisters yeah I mean everybody needs one of those right I need a sister and I need a sticky note

[00:11:58] not to get into it yes okay so now a bed malach this cool dude okay he's an Ethiopian one of the

[00:12:06] unix who was in the king's house he heard that they had put Jeremiah in the dungeon when the king

[00:12:12] was sitting at the gate of Benjamin a bed malach went out of the king's house and he spoke to

[00:12:18] the king saying excuse me sir my lord the king these men have done evil and all that they have done

[00:12:26] to Jeremiah the prophet I'm like assuming he's like whispering he's like a king king but wait

[00:12:32] didn't the princes come to him and say we're doing this stuff yeah yeah okay I just wanted to make

[00:12:37] sure yeah basically the king seems to me like a very soft trump where he does does whatever the last

[00:12:45] person he spoke with suggested right you know yeah okay so anyway this guy he's like hey they did

[00:12:51] bad to him whom they have cast into the dungeon and he is likely to die from hunger in the place

[00:12:56] where he is for there's no more bread in the city so right you know they can't even throw bread

[00:13:02] down to him yeah dude dude this prophet is gonna die is that really what you want right so then the

[00:13:10] king commanded a bed malach the Ethiopian saying take here 30 men with you and lift Jeremiah the prophet

[00:13:17] out of the dungeon before he dies I have some notes okay okay yeah okay so first of all a bed

[00:13:26] malach that Ethiopian guy yeah it just means servant of the king so even if it was the man's proper name

[00:13:33] it shows that he had no identity of his own okay so that was either his title or his name is his

[00:13:40] title sure like basically he's no man okay you know and being a foreigner and a unit a bed malach was

[00:13:47] excluded from the temple and most Jewish rituals right so he was like an outsider kind of guy

[00:13:54] and yet somehow he had more compassion and mercy than most of the ruling class who participated in

[00:14:00] all these rituals all the time okay which that's very interesting right okay now because the

[00:14:06] Septuagint and one Hebrew manuscript read three instead of 30 some scholars choose the lesser figure

[00:14:14] like remember the king said take 30 guys with you and go get them out yeah because it doesn't take

[00:14:19] 30 guys to pull them out right right so in some translations it says 30 and in some three

[00:14:26] and a lot because it said three and a lot of the important ones right people are like a lot of

[00:14:34] scholars are like that's probably more likely but while 30 men were not needed to do the work of

[00:14:40] pulling there would likely have been several standing guard so that none of the influential people

[00:14:45] who did want Jeremiah dead could prevent his rescue okay so unlike who cares honestly it could go

[00:14:52] either way we don't know we don't know what the king wanted he was so fucking wishy watching

[00:14:57] on this whole this whole thing with a bed malec a bed malec bed malec it strikes me as odd that he

[00:15:05] cares so much about some why would you care about Jeremiah because he believed in the prophet

[00:15:11] okay and because the prophet has been saying this shit for years at this point and everything that

[00:15:17] he has said has come to pass all right that that they have lived to see you know what I mean

[00:15:22] everything that has happened within their time according to this and correct me if I'm wrong but

[00:15:27] Zedakaya was he placed in position by the king of Babylon or was it I think he was placed in

[00:15:32] position by the king of Babylon yes so people surrounding him were probably more closely aligned

[00:15:37] with Babylon than they were with Egypt mm-hmm if I had to guess yes so that would make sense that

[00:15:44] they would be helping this by yeah it's all interesting yeah like who even fucking knows who

[00:15:53] was doing I'm trying to keep track of all the political you know machinations yeah yeah yeah who knows

[00:15:59] so a bed malec took the man with him and went into the house of the king under the treasury

[00:16:04] and took from their old clothes and old rags and led them down by ropes into the dungeon to Jeremiah

[00:16:12] then a bed malach the Ethiopian said to Jeremiah please put these old clothes and rags under your

[00:16:18] armpits under the ropes and Jeremiah did so so they pulled Jeremiah up with ropes and lifted him out

[00:16:24] of the dungeon and Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison you know again so he was still in jail

[00:16:31] but not he was back in the good jail well how are they gonna how are they in the garrant like

[00:16:35] they're gonna rescue him but leave him in the jail who's to stop the princess from putting them

[00:16:40] right back in the freaking sister I don't know I don't know I wish that Jeremiah at this point would

[00:16:45] just like fucking stay just stay in your room right guy you've you've done your piece stay in your room

[00:16:53] but he just he keeps going I don't know I guess but remember the beginning like he was like at the

[00:16:58] beginning of this book he was like it being mean to me they're making fun of me and calling me names

[00:17:05] right and God was like you ain't see nothing yet you're not even gonna know yeah so I just think it's

[00:17:12] funny like I just I've been holding that in the back of my mind to pull out when it shit got bad

[00:17:19] enough to be able to say oh dang okay okay now I do also want to point out they made a big point

[00:17:30] of writing in that Malek the Ethiopian I'm sorry a bed Malek the Ethiopian made sure to put

[00:17:38] cloths under Jeremiah's arms when they pulled them up so because he was probably so emaciated

[00:17:45] right and you know close to starvation and stuff yeah it's such an like unimportant detail it's

[00:17:53] really odd that they were like and they brought him up very carefully right like why did that make it

[00:17:59] in you know yeah details that matter are not put in this fucking book but they brought them out maybe

[00:18:07] to show the reverence that they had for him or the okay okay you know I'm saying like they they

[00:18:11] treated him with respect with regard okay you know I like that thank you that that's a good answer

[00:18:17] to my question you know it's my only possible I just I just find it odd the details that they leave

[00:18:22] out versus the details that they choose to add yeah that I mean it's nice and all I'm glad that

[00:18:29] they were nice to him but that wasn't the most important detail that they could have put right no

[00:18:34] in the fact they leave him in the fucking jail is really odd to me well the court jail though we

[00:18:40] talked about this last time it's a nice place and he has a little bit of freedom to come and go

[00:18:44] in the city and so far as he doesn't get thrown into a sister and buy princes yes which he's

[00:18:49] already happened to him now twice right well once was a guard be fair the the princess only did it

[00:18:58] the second time I'm just saying no you're totally right I agree with you okay but the chapter goes

[00:19:04] on yeah then Zedakaya the king sent and had Jeremiah the prophet brought to him at the third entrance of

[00:19:13] the house of the Lord not the first not the second not the fourth the third one right and the fifth

[00:19:20] was way too many I guess yeah and the king said to Jeremiah I will ask you something I'd nothing from

[00:19:26] me what do you think he's gonna ask is there any way for him not to die that would be my guess right

[00:19:32] yeah that would you like to take bets or should we both just say yeah that's probably what he's asking

[00:19:40] okay let's find out all right Jeremiah said to Zedakaya if I declare it to you will you not

[00:19:45] surely put me to death and if I give you advice you'll not listen to me I mean he's like who

[00:19:51] who fucking cares what how I answer you although the last time he gave him advice and he'd just put

[00:19:55] him in the nice prison true so I mean I don't know but I mean don't you think that he's like dude

[00:20:01] I'm tired of playing this fucking game with you right yeah you've stuck me in jail twice through

[00:20:06] various other people my story hasn't changed I've been beat I've been you know put in the stockade

[00:20:13] the torture device like my answer is he is stuck to a story yeah yeah so so he's like what the

[00:20:19] fuck do you care what I say again according to Jeremiah yeah according to Jeremiah Jeremiah was

[00:20:24] very brave and virtuous I mean according to wife wife was the best wife that ever was that's right

[00:20:31] you are right oh thanks I love you too so Zedakaya the King swore secretly to Jeremiah saying

[00:20:41] as the Lord lives who made our very souls I will not put you to death nor will I give you into

[00:20:47] the hand of these men who seek your life but let me ask you this yeah he said as the Lord lives

[00:20:54] oh sir do you believe in God now am I to take your word right yeah like you've already been

[00:21:01] wishy washy left and right you let people put me in jail twice but he obviously does at some

[00:21:08] level care about this guy's opinion he keeps asking him right I'm just saying like can you

[00:21:13] honestly like trust his word oh by God huh you mean the God that I keep telling you or the God

[00:21:20] that you want to believe or the God that your political guys like which God right you know I think

[00:21:26] it's generally no matter who you're talking to is the God they want to believe in well sure I'm

[00:21:30] saying whether it's king or not you know so I'm just saying like if I was Jeremiah it would be like

[00:21:34] you know I appreciate that you sound sincere in this moment yeah I even appreciate that you

[00:21:39] probably are sincere in this moment sure but five minutes from now you might change your mind your

[00:21:46] promise honestly means nothing especially when my story hasn't changed you have multiple times over

[00:21:54] like right it's all well and good for you to promise I'll tell you what I'm gonna tell you

[00:21:58] and it's the same shit I've been telling you sure and I don't care if he's wearing God or not

[00:22:03] right I mean that I don't know yeah nothing I want to take Jeremiah side but you get what I'm saying

[00:22:09] so then Jeremiah said does that a cahia thus says the Lord I guess he decided to trust him in his

[00:22:15] way doesn't matter like sure okay okay the says the Lord the God of hosts the God of Israel

[00:22:23] if you surely surrender to the king of Babylon's princes then your soul shall live I feel like he's

[00:22:31] like do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth this city shall not be burned with

[00:22:39] fire and you and your house shall live but motherfucker if you do not surrender to the king of Babylon's

[00:22:46] princes then this city shall be given into the hands of the Chaldeans they shall burn it with fire

[00:22:53] and you shall not escape from their hand like hello can you hear me yeah and Zedekaya the King

[00:23:01] said to Jeremiah I am afraid of the Jews who have defected to the Chaldeans unless they deliver me

[00:23:08] into their hand and they abuse me or it would be scared of them too I mean right yeah yeah like

[00:23:15] you have to think about it like this whole time people have probably been sneaking away right and

[00:23:20] either like sneaking as refugees into further cities or being like fuck this I'm going to the

[00:23:27] Chaldeans they seem all right right like they got their shit together yep so I mean yeah I don't

[00:23:33] I don't blame you right but Jeremiah said no they shall not deliver you please please obey the voice

[00:23:39] of the Lord which I speak to you so it shall be well with you and your soul shall live oh my god

[00:23:44] he's begging him that's crazy but if you refuse to surrender this is the word that the Lord has shown me

[00:23:52] okay okay colon ready ready oh this I feel like this is going to be bad you think it's going to be

[00:23:57] worse than this been I think I think it's going to be bad I just have this impression because he's

[00:24:01] like listen okay listen I'm about to tell you some shit are you ready because you brought me in here

[00:24:08] you whispered at me okay I'm going to lay it down for you okay now be hold all the women who are

[00:24:16] left in the King of Judah's house shall be surrendered to the King of Babylon's princes and those

[00:24:22] women shall say your close friends have set upon you and prevailed against you your feet have sunk

[00:24:29] in the mire and they have turned away again so they shall surrender all your wives and children to

[00:24:35] the childy ends you shall not escape from their hand but shall be taken by the hand of the King of

[00:24:41] Babylon and you shall cause this city to be burned with fucking fire do you hear me now sir right

[00:24:49] king man yeah then Zedekiah said to Jeremiah let no one know of these words and you shall not die

[00:24:56] he's like this message sucks I need a different fortune cookie I'm throwing this one in the fire

[00:25:03] like that other fucking scroll I won't kill you I'm not going to kill you but listen don't tell anybody

[00:25:08] else this stop walking around the city and saying this shit right but if the princess here that I

[00:25:13] have talked with you this is still Zedekiah talking yeah the fucking King I just keep striking me like

[00:25:19] hi I'm just this dude talking to a king no big right but if the princess here that I have

[00:25:25] talked with you and they come to you and say to you declare to us now what you have said to the

[00:25:30] King and also what the King said to you do not hide it from us and we will not put you to death

[00:25:35] then you shall say to them I presented my quest request before the King that he would not make

[00:25:41] me return to Jonathan's house to die there okay we good we good then all the princes came to Jeremiah

[00:25:48] and asked him and he told them according to all these words that the King had commanded so they

[00:25:54] stopped speaking with him for the conversation had not been heard okay okay so Zedekiah like don't

[00:26:01] tell them that I asked for your advice again they're like so busy me right and Jeremiah's like I don't

[00:26:08] okay fine whatever like that's not my beef man right like I'm I'm not out here trying to get you

[00:26:14] in trouble with these prince guys I'm just doing my thing sure so okay okay I won't tell them

[00:26:21] now Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison until the day that Jerusalem was taken and he

[00:26:28] was there when Jerusalem was taken the end okay damn that wasn't that was a strong finish to that

[00:26:35] chapter so apparently Zedekiah didn't I mean we already knew but Zedekiah did not listen to Jeremiah

[00:26:41] right and and then the place got taken yeah they were going to burn the place to the ground though

[00:26:46] I think doesn't Jeremiah live through this though right we're still in the middle of the story like

[00:26:51] is yeah remember we're in the middle of a section but it strikes me though they were going to burn

[00:26:55] the whole place to the fucking ground if they didn't surrender that Jeremiah must have had special

[00:27:02] standing with the Chaudyans slash Babylonians right for them to escort him off the premises I mean okay

[00:27:08] right now what we're doing is trying to guess what is happening in the next chapter sure like we're

[00:27:15] in the to be continued what do you think happens right yeah and I'm like okay maybe they burn

[00:27:20] the whole city but all the oh well we know didn't they take they took Zedekiah with them

[00:27:26] remember briefly yeah so they probably would have taken Zedekiah and all of his court including

[00:27:32] the jail guys and since Jeremiah was a prophet or you know spy yeah you know they I'm betting that they

[00:27:41] took the king and some of his court including Jeremiah and whoever else was you know an upedish

[00:27:49] schmuck buck name yeah all right what we'll see I know I'm kind of excited though yeah the story's

[00:27:55] getting good so that was Jeremiah chapter 38 it sure is buck was which means that we'll be back

[00:28:01] tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 39 and I'm so excited about it all right we'll see you guys then bye

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