Bible Study for Atheists: Exodus Chapters 37 - 38

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[00:05:30] Yeah okay so Exodus chapter 37 the furnishings of the tapernacle.

[00:05:41] Next Bezalel made the arc of acacia wood a secret chest 45 inches long 27 inches high.

[00:05:53] I know it's pain. Pain my brain is in pain and 27 inches high he overlaid it inside and outside

[00:06:00] with pure gold and he ran a molding of gold all around it because God's all about that gold

[00:06:06] about that gold. He cast four gold rings and attached them to its four feet two rings on

[00:06:12] each side then he made poles from acacia wood and overlaid them with gold. He inserted the poles

[00:06:17] into the rings at the side of the arc to carry it. No shit really? Yeah that's what I did. I would

[00:06:22] never fucking guess that. That's what those carrying poles were for. Huh they were for carrying.

[00:06:26] I mean I didn't get it the first 25 times but I think I might have it this time. I'm sure that

[00:06:32] they'll say it again just in case you didn't. I mean like they make the people sound really

[00:06:36] simple you know. You gotta tell them like you know I'm two times but you only have to tell

[00:06:42] them once to go stab each other right that worked pretty quickly yeah we're only gonna cover that one

[00:06:46] once then he made the arcs cover the place of atonement from pure gold gold. Shocked. It was 45

[00:06:54] inches long and 27 inches wide he made two cherubim from hammered gold gold yeah gold and placed

[00:07:02] them on the two ends of the atonement cover he molded the cherubim on each end of the atonement

[00:07:07] cover making it all of one piece of gold. The cherubim faced each other and looked down on the

[00:07:13] atonement cover with their wings spread above it they protected it. Look I know they were using

[00:07:18] other material like bronze and silver and stuff so I wasn't entirely certain but there is a lot

[00:07:24] of gold so there's a lot of fucking gold in this. I want to know how statues of cherubim are protecting

[00:07:32] anything like are they coming to life? Are they gonna come to life? Is that what we have in store?

[00:07:39] Maybe I don't know. I hope you learn more about that that could be cool. Maybe they just like

[00:07:47] I don't fucking know where were you going you just you just drifted off yeah well I mean I

[00:07:53] was thinking maybe with all like the anointing oils and all the crap that they put on it maybe like if

[00:07:58] you start like messing with the cherubims on there they're like they alert the cherubims and

[00:08:02] they're like okay cherubims unite it's time to go get those fuckers up the arc because they're

[00:08:08] trying to get in oh my god that I'm glad you didn't say that and I wish you hadn't said it the

[00:08:14] second time yeah it's stupid sorry then Bezalel made the table of acacia wood 36 inches long

[00:08:21] 18 inches wide and 27 inches high he overlaid it with pure gold and ran a gold molding around the

[00:08:28] edge he decorated it with a three inch border all around and he ran a gold molding all along the

[00:08:35] border then he cast four gold rings for the table and attached them at the four corners next to

[00:08:41] the four legs the rings were attached near the border to hold the poles that were used to

[00:08:46] carry the table hmm he made these poles from acacia wood and overlaid them with gold then he made

[00:08:53] special containers of pure oh my god gold for the table bowls ladles jars and pitchers to be

[00:09:01] used in pouring out liquid offerings then Bezalel made the lampstand of pure hammered gold

[00:09:08] we just had a curiosity though where the hell is uh what was the other guy's name a holy ab

[00:09:13] the guy yeah holy ab oh damn Bezalel doing everything maybe oh maybe maybe a holy ab did

[00:09:17] like the drapes and stuff yeah he could be like the linens like uh whatever you call him

[00:09:23] he said seam well you know what i'm the seamster or something you know seamster yeah the sewee

[00:09:29] guy sewee guy and this is the buildy guy right he made the entire lampstand and his

[00:09:36] decorations of one piece the base center stem lamp cups buds and petals sorry i had a hard time

[00:09:44] with that yeah the lampstand had six branches going out from the center stem three on each side

[00:09:49] each of the six branches had three lamp cups shaped like almond blossoms complete with buds

[00:09:54] and petals i bet that was really pretty i'm sure it was because he was um a master craftsman

[00:10:01] yeah yeah but oh okay let me let me ask i mean i'm just saying like we're talking about master

[00:10:08] craftsman back in like before the birth of christ right yeah so like what kind of tools

[00:10:15] do they work with and exactly how mastery craftsmen shippy were these things i don't know

[00:10:20] but we'll never know they could have just been a big sloppy art piece of shit that's

[00:10:25] true the bar was pretty low i'm just saying the center stem of the lampstand was crafted from

[00:10:31] four lamp cups shaped like almond blossoms complete with buds and petals there was an almond bud beneath

[00:10:36] each pair of branches were the six branches extended from the center stem all made of one piece

[00:10:41] the almond buds and branches were all of one piece with the center stem and they were

[00:10:46] hammered from pure gold i'm kind of done saying gold though no that's your that's your place here

[00:10:52] gold gold he also made seven lamps for the lampstand lamp snuffers and trays all of pure

[00:11:01] gold the entire lampstand along with its accessories was made from 75 pounds of pure gold then bezel

[00:11:08] well made the incense altar of a case of wood it was 18 inches square and 36 inches high with

[00:11:15] horns at the center or i'm sorry at the corners carved from the same piece of wood as the altar

[00:11:20] itself he overlaid the top sides and horns of the altar with pure gold and he ran a gold molding

[00:11:28] around the entire altar he made two fucking gold rings and attached them on opposite sides of the

[00:11:35] altar below the gold molding to carry the gold carrying poles he made the poles of a case of

[00:11:43] wood and overlaid them with gold then he made the sacred anointing oil and the fragrant incense

[00:11:50] using the techniques of a skilled incense maker the end that's golden bezel well he's so good at

[00:11:59] everything i i'm attracted to really i i i i need a story i need a fucking story i thought you were

[00:12:09] gonna say i need a cigarette and i was like what i need a fucking story i can't comment on this fucking

[00:12:17] bullshit it's so it's boring boring it's almost as boring as so and so we got so and so we got so

[00:12:25] and so we got so and so i think this is more goddamn boring i mean i don't think it's i think

[00:12:30] it's as boring it's different boring i just i'm sorry that we're boring we might as well be

[00:12:36] reading ikea instructions i that's my joke i know but it's true it is true because it's

[00:12:44] that fucking boring well maybe the next chapter picks up let's see what happens in exodus chapter 38

[00:12:50] all right okay before i start this next chapter uh-huh i just have to comment on something what's

[00:13:03] that so after we finished the last chapter just now yeah we had to take like a 15 minute break

[00:13:09] because we knew that an alarm was going to go off right and that's kind of funny but whatever that's

[00:13:15] not the point the point is that the entire time that we were on that break you were so whiny you

[00:13:21] were whining about how boring this is and then you told me straight out don't make me say gold

[00:13:27] anymore well yeah i don't i can't think of funny things to say when i have to keep saying

[00:13:32] gold every five seconds i just thought that whole thing was worth stating that you were going

[00:13:37] off about the bible and the ark and all the gold well it's 15 straight minutes okay all right

[00:13:44] it's bullshit this is so fucking boring going over the same goddamn things over and over and over

[00:13:51] like come on i'm done with this story already like you know i don't want to cover the ark anymore

[00:13:57] i know it's like 42 feet of this and six inches of that and fucking gold and god damn gold

[00:14:03] and cherubims and carrying poles oh my god and horns fucking horns i mean just enough already

[00:14:10] it's a fucking ark great they build it awesome move along i just thought that our listeners

[00:14:17] deserve to hear that you were a whiny fuck yeah well whatever like you're never a whiny fuck

[00:14:24] oh i never claimed not to be i'm definitely a whiny fuck all right let's get on with this episode

[00:14:30] all right exodus chapter 38 next bezalel used acacia wood to construct the square altar of burnt

[00:14:38] offering it was seven feet wide seven feet long and four feet high he made horns for each of its

[00:14:44] four corners so that the horns and altar were all one piece he overlaid the altar with bronze not

[00:14:50] gold hey yes this is exciting one of the bronze now then he made all the altar utensils of bronze

[00:14:59] the ash buckets shovels basins meat forks and fire pen i just think we haven't even got to the

[00:15:04] fibers yet or the fabric yet oh my god stop so like we still got fabric to go linens very excited

[00:15:11] oh and the the oils and shit oh my god stop just stop so so excited aren't everybody's

[00:15:18] excited with me right come on you're excited next he made a bronze grating and installed it

[00:15:24] halfway down the side of the altar under the ledge he cast four rings and attached them to

[00:15:29] the corners of the bronze grating to hold the carrying poles didn't we cover that the last time

[00:15:34] i'm pretty sure it was the other side i don't know i i stopped keeping up it's hard to care and

[00:15:41] read aloud boringness at the same time i mean my brain is turning into god damn mush as we

[00:15:45] speak so i mean maybe that's the purpose you know oh yeah yeah because if you if you're

[00:15:52] malleable you can you know believe in this shit maybe and if you just like so fucking bored

[00:15:57] you're like yeah whatever god fucking awesome god is great god is good god made an arc of a kasey

[00:16:03] a wood the arc is amazing i made a rhyme and you were like i wasn't paying any god damn attention

[00:16:07] because i was so okay i'm gonna say it again what i was saying so you know i'm gonna say it again

[00:16:11] ready god is great god is good he made an arc of a kasey a wood that's actually pretty good

[00:16:17] see you should stop talking over me now i don't know what i'm yeah he made the poles for my kasey

[00:16:23] a wood and overlaid them with bronze he inserted the poles through the rings on the sides of

[00:16:28] the altar the altar was hollow and was made from planks bezelel made the bronze wash

[00:16:33] wash

[00:16:44] i just have to stop here for a second just in case nobody knows this we tend to do these episodes

[00:16:49] just like straight through one shot every once in a while something that grows really wrong

[00:16:53] we have to redo but generally we just fuck up and move right along move right along so

[00:17:00] just for the record and then you tend to make fun of me well i mean that's what we do which is

[00:17:05] funny because you can't even fucking read out loud so i don't know why i can't that's why you read

[00:17:09] i know i mean i can read out loud but it's really fucking boring and i don't have any inflection

[00:17:13] so yeah there you go okay and you don't pause at periods and commas and i mean you're boring

[00:17:18] i read just fine i just don't read out loud that's what i'm saying you're reading out loud

[00:17:23] voices okay i'm sorry we're really distracted because we're so bored well yeah fucking a kasey

[00:17:29] bezelel made the bronze wash basin and its bronze stand from bronze mirrors donated what's a bronze

[00:17:36] mirror donated by the women who served at the entrance of the tabernacle that doesn't seem

[00:17:41] very effective does it yeah it's not very reflective oh look at that shiny metal that i can't see

[00:17:45] anything in right yeah what is a okay whatever it's reflecting light but next section the court

[00:17:54] the court of the tabernacle now we're building a court okay like a tennis court i don't know

[00:18:00] i hope so that'd be more fun then bezelel made the courtyard how do you make a courtyard

[00:18:05] i thought a courtyard was like plants and stuff i don't i mean i'm sure they're gonna

[00:18:10] fucking tell us so yeah why did i ask which was enclosed with curtains oh that's see this is where

[00:18:16] the curtains run to the fabrics now made a finely woven linen but did you notice that bezelel

[00:18:21] is still doing this and a holy ab is nowhere to be found yet we didn't we read literally one sentence

[00:18:28] and you've already decided well who made it you don't know i don't know it just seems like awfully

[00:18:34] like they're they're discriminating against the tribe of dan so i mean that's what it feels

[00:18:38] like maybe the tribe of dan is a bunch of drunkasses you don't know maybe okay well let me keep

[00:18:43] reading okay finely woven linen on the south side the curtains were 150 feet long they were

[00:18:48] held up by 20 posts set securely in 20 bronze bases he so yeah he hung the curtains with silver

[00:18:58] hooks and rings he made a similar set of curtains for the north side 150 feet of curtains held up

[00:19:03] by 20 posts set securely in bronze bases he hung the curtains with silver hooks and rings the

[00:19:10] curtains on the west end of the courtyard were 75 feet long hung with silver hooks and rings

[00:19:15] and supported by 10 posts set into 10 bases is everybody keeping up here not even a little bit

[00:19:22] the east end the front was also 75 feet long the courtyard entrance was on the east end

[00:19:28] flanked by two curtains east east end okay the curtain on the right side was 22 feet long and

[00:19:34] was supported by three posts set into three bases three okay i got it the curtain on the left

[00:19:39] side was also 22 feet long and was supported by three posts set into three bases i'm gonna

[00:19:44] i'm gonna get on building this tomorrow so both sides were the same and they couldn't just say

[00:19:51] each side was blah blah blah with the fucking same yeah all the curtains used in the courtyard

[00:19:55] were made of guess what finely woven linen yeah yeah i even know what colors i think they were

[00:20:01] like red and five weren't they like oh shit i don't remember wasn't it like red blue and

[00:20:07] purple basically yeah seems like that was about right yeah each post had a bronze base and

[00:20:12] all the hooks and rings were silver so we did gold then we did bronze and now we're at silver right

[00:20:18] the tops of the posts of the courtyard were overlaid with silver and the rings to hold up the curtains

[00:20:22] were made of silver he made the curtain for the entrance to the courtyard of finely woven linen

[00:20:27] and he decorated it with here we go beautiful embroidery in blue purple and scarlet right

[00:20:33] oh we're so close blue purple scarlet basically right but you know yeah it was 30 feet long

[00:20:39] and it's height was seven feet just like the curtains of the courtyard walls it was supported

[00:20:43] by four posts each set securely in its own bronze base the tops of the posts were overlaid with silver

[00:20:49] and the hooks and rings were also made of silver all the tent pegs used in the tapper

[00:20:54] knuckle and courtyard were made of bronze okay okay i mean that that's you know i have to say

[00:21:00] this is this is very important if you're um writing a bible apparently yeah and you need

[00:21:06] to know this stuff because it's gonna matter in in the afterlife you know it's really funny like um

[00:21:13] as a writer um i'm encouraged often to to make um a story bible and you know what we don't include

[00:21:21] in our story bibles what any of this shit right i mean that kind of goes without saying because

[00:21:29] like i feel like and we've talked about editors before but i feel like an editor will be like

[00:21:34] okay you need to lose this entire chapter right the last entire chapter the one before that

[00:21:41] and like the five before that because it's it's it's much and and even the one that you just

[00:21:48] described at the first time you need to like cut it down you need to shorten it that means

[00:21:52] like we can scrap about like 10 pages here right okay right the supervision of the work

[00:21:59] this is an inventory of the materials used in building the tapper knuckle of the covenant

[00:22:05] the levites compiled the figures as moses directed and ithomar son of erin the priest

[00:22:12] served as recorder bezalel of yuri son grandson of her of the tribe of juda made everything

[00:22:19] just as the lord had commanded moses he was assisted by your holy ab a holy ab there he is

[00:22:25] son of a hystima of the tribe of dan a craftsman expert at engraving designing and embroidering

[00:22:32] with blue purple and scarlet that's why he didn't actually make the stuff he just embroidered it and

[00:22:38] and um engraved it yeah so like he did all the fancy stuff yeah but but uh dude bezalel dude

[00:22:46] yeah build all this shit yeah okay um i'm an embroidering with blue purple and scarlet

[00:22:52] thread on fine linen cloth okay the medal of the sanctuary the people brought special offerings of

[00:22:59] gold totaling 2193 pounds damn such a random number though it really is they got that down yeah

[00:23:08] they got it exact exact right as measured by the weight of the sanctuary shekel okay the

[00:23:15] weight what the fuck is a sanctuary shekel i thought shekel was a type of money i did too

[00:23:20] so how does shekel's measure stuff this gold was used throughout the tabernacle hold on you know

[00:23:25] how i told you i was gonna mention we need to look stuff we need to look up shekels we really

[00:23:29] need to look and find out what the fuck a shekel is yeah and how much it was worth then versus

[00:23:33] how much it's worth now right the whole community of israel gave 7 545 pounds of silver

[00:23:41] as measured by the weight of the sanctuary shekel this silver came from the tax collected

[00:23:46] from each man registered in the census oh here's some interesting information oh so it wasn't given up

[00:23:52] by those that were willing it was given up by everybody because they fucking collected this

[00:23:56] is a tax at the census and that definitely was not fucking voluntary yeah yeah kind of like how

[00:24:03] they call slave servants right yeah it's the whole whitewashing of everything right the tax is

[00:24:10] one becca b e k a okay which is half a shekel based on the sanctuary shekel so it's like maybe the

[00:24:21] sanctuary shekel is like a standard standard bearer form of this payment method that is weighted

[00:24:28] and therefore like a shekel has to be weighed to equal so many sanctuary shekels yeah that sounds

[00:24:36] smart but i don't care right the tax was collected from oh see tax was collected from six thousand no

[00:24:44] i'm sorry 603,550 men who had reached their 20th birthday that went very fast from a donation

[00:24:54] to a tax you remember how they were giving too much yeah they were like oh where was there

[00:24:58] too many pieces of wood i mean your tax collectors were collecting too much is what

[00:25:03] you're saying now right like you know and they even changed it up just within this chapter because

[00:25:08] it started off as donation yeah and then went to tax yeah okay fucking liars yeah the hundred bases for

[00:25:16] the frames of the sanctuary walls and for the post supporting the inner curtain required 7,500

[00:25:22] pounds of silver about 75 pounds for each base Jesus that is ridiculous and i'm sorry but any god

[00:25:31] demanding this is just totally power hungry and childish right and like totally if you guys just

[00:25:38] want to donate one base to us i'm good with just a mere 75 pounds of silver i'll take a shekel

[00:25:44] i'll take a shekel yeah i mean shekels are good too but i mean i'm just saying like one one base

[00:25:50] that'd be good yeah i mean i guess i'm just saying the remaining 45 pounds of silver was used

[00:25:56] to make the hooks and rings and to overlay the tops of the posts the people also brought a special

[00:26:02] offerings 5,310 pounds of bronze which was used for casting the bases for the post at the entrance

[00:26:10] to the tabernacle and for the bronze altar with its bronze grating and all the altar utensils

[00:26:16] now they said that that was an offering a special offering but that's essentially what they said

[00:26:22] by special offering they mean i took that shit and made it special i mean i think what they mean is

[00:26:28] that those people done fucked up they're like you need to get some extra shit and bring it up here

[00:26:33] yeah i think it was still a goddamn tax probably and if we looked into it more i'm sure that's what

[00:26:38] we would find out because nothing's voluntary they're fucking forcing these people yeah i mean

[00:26:42] they're essentially making them do this at the point of death you know like and

[00:26:46] who's not gonna do it build this or get cast out a a die yeah it's bullshit yeah bronze was also used

[00:26:53] to make the bases for the posts that supported the curtains around the courtyard the basis for

[00:26:58] the curtain at the entrance of the courtyard and all the tent pegs for the tabernacle and the courtyard

[00:27:03] the end okay i really hope we got a story next week i mean i could peek ahead but i'm not going

[00:27:09] to no i'm not going to no spoilers no spoilers you gotta stick around and find out that shit

[00:27:14] yeah i mean we gotta read this crap so you guys at least come with us yeah so next week we will be

[00:27:20] reading exodus chapters 39 and 40 oh my god we're gonna finish up the we're gonna finish exodus

[00:27:27] all right see now you guys gotta come back because it's the end of exodus next week we'll have read

[00:27:32] two full books of the bible that's amazing that is really amazing that's more than i've ever read

[00:27:37] in my entire life of the bible well yeah i mean red like after having read so much so far

[00:27:44] i don't think it was without cause that i haven't read it but you know what i'm just saying like

[00:27:49] so far is like eh no big loss yeah but still i mean there's like a hundred billion trillion other

[00:27:55] chapter or books of the bible so you know maybe it picks up i don't think so i don't think it

[00:28:02] does either but hopefully our humor can carry people through this and we can all suffer in

[00:28:08] unison well i just want to be able to say i did read the bible as i know that was the whole

[00:28:13] point of this from the beginning yeah yeah for sure all right we'll see you guys next week hi

[00:28:29] husband wife can i say the things now yes okay so you had a list of items that you wanted

[00:28:37] people to check out yeah definitely um make sure you check us out on twitter we are there

[00:28:43] under the handle sacrilegious underscore d for d's nuts yeah that's that's exactly where i'd

[00:28:48] gone with that yep um we also would love to get emails from you because we love hate mail

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[00:29:05] you're gonna be running a little bit behind what our schedule is for our podcast because

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[00:29:27] she's on cast box i like cast box and then on any of the things that you were on we always

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[00:29:40] do those things and we will see you guys next week sure sure we will it's on thursdays yeah that

[00:29:47] okay bye