Ezekiel Chapter 34: Bible Study by Atheists

[00:00:00] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. For this is what the sovereign Lord says, Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want? If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done

[00:00:12] then you can justify any of your behavior. A lot of this mentality is trickling into what is now mainstream right wing Christianity. I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible. This is a Bible that they tell kids. This is a Bible

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[00:01:00] from Atheist Faulklasse, from Cabrioli, bis Esovi, Al-Akots Fristich Verfüpper, Al-Azutop Conditionen, Al-A for Z-Beraid, Zoma, Zona, Zoma hits. Now, by Irame Azita Spence, Niedela Song 4 out. Wife! Do you remember what happened yesterday? Where the hell we are today? Well, yesterday we read Zikil chapter 33.

[00:01:26] And in that chapter, God was saying how you, if you have been a good person, your entire life and good with God and the whole nine yards, you might be fucked still. Yeah, if you're bad at the last month,

[00:01:42] yeah, yeah, you still won't get into heaven or whatever the fuck it is that you're going to get into it back in the Old Testament. I don't know. And then if you're bad your whole life, as long as you redeem yourself at the end, you're good to go.

[00:01:54] Not just lip service, though you're going to do actual action. That's according based on what we read, yes. Yes. But the whole concept seems kind of bullshity. I have to agree with you. And we talked about a little bit how we like the

[00:02:08] way in of one's life, the Egyptians did. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a little bit the way of the soul. I feel like that's a little bit more realistic and fair. Just what is it? I'm the grand scheme of things.

[00:02:20] I agree. So anyway, that was a Zikil chapter 33. Yes, it was. Which means that today we're getting into a Zikil chapter 34. All right. Let's do this. Okay, okay.

[00:02:36] All right. We are jumping into easy Kyle chapter 34 as I like to say a Zikil to make sure everybody knows what we're reading because you're a buzz count. And no notes here we go. Ready? I'm ready. Okay. The word of the Lord came to me.

[00:02:54] Did it now? It sure is. Zikil came to Zikil. Yeah, son of man. Yeah, mere human. You're fucking worm. Prophecy against the shepherds of Israel. Prophecy and say to them, this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. Whoa. Whoa.

[00:03:10] To you shepherds of Israel who only take care of yourselves would not shepherds take care of the flock. They wouldn't really be shepherds if they didn't did they. Whoa. Yeah. He's referring to the leadership. No, I got it. Taking care of the people properly. Right. Yeah.

[00:03:28] You eat the curds, close yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not take care of the flock. It's interesting that they brought that up because early on in the Bible.

[00:03:40] I don't know if you recall this, but we talked a lot about the rituals that they had in place where they would sacrifice animals and the priests and the higher-ups would have that food for them, essentially.

[00:03:52] Yeah. Like it was for God, quote unquote, but the families and the people that were higher up like the priest and shit, they were the ones that actually got to eat it.

[00:04:00] Yes. So it was kind of the beginning of like them taking the the best stuff from the people that were poor. Please send the people. Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. And here's what the leaders say. Yeah. Yeah, shit's going wrong. Yeah.

[00:04:16] I mean, it's kind of cool that they're calling it out. Like, you know, they're admitting, yeah, this is a bad thing. So obviously there was like Complaint people. Like this is not a good thing. Yeah. That's cool. There was some clear clash clashing of classes.

[00:04:32] Yes. For sure. Yeah. You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally so they were scattered because there was no shepherd.

[00:04:51] And when they were scattered, they became food for all the wild animals. My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth and no one searched or looked for them.

[00:05:06] Hmm. That's so sad. Well, he wasn't even one that scattered them though. Shit. Shattered. I mean, you know, like, what he talked about that's what we've been talking about right since Jeremiah He's going to scatter them all over the fucking land.

[00:05:17] Yeah, but this is like one at a time not like the whole population. I guess. I guess. I mean, I don't know. You know, We, this could be referring to the scattering of his entire tribe.

[00:05:26] Yeah. That's true. That is true. It just makes me think of little bopeap as lost or sheep. Yeah. Yeah. And the movie toy land. Okay. I couldn't get it at first. I was like, toy story. No, that's Pixar. Right. Toyland. One of my favorite Christmas movies. Yeah.

[00:05:47] That's good. Okay. Anyway, therefore are you shepherds? Here the word of the Lord. Okay. All right. As surely as I live to clears the sovereign Lord. Just in question.

[00:05:58] Because my flock of hex, a shepherd and so has been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals. And because my shepherds did not search for my flock, but cared for themselves rather than for my flock. Therefore they're going to die. You have fucking shepherds.

[00:06:16] Here the word of the Lord. Okay. This is what the sovereign Lord says. I thought he was, he just told us he was saying this shit. He's like, listen, listen, listen. I'm telling you some stuff. Listen. Now I'm telling you more stuff. Okay.

[00:06:29] Okay. I'm about to tell you. Listen. You really want to make sure that they know he's talking. Mm-hmm. I mean, through a ZQ. I got says a ZQ. Yeah. And against the shepherds. Oh, no. And we'll hold them accountable for my flock.

[00:06:44] I will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves. Mm-hmm. Man, you've got to starve everybody. Right? Great. That sounds cool. If you're going to do something horrible to somebody, don't torture them and fucking make it.

[00:06:59] Like, you're just a mean asshole. Right. You're like pulling the legs off of flies. Right. And I don't even like flies and I wouldn't do that. You're very abusive. Yeah. This guy, this guy is very abusive. Abusive to the point of massacism because he enjoys watching them suffer.

[00:07:18] Right. I, God, says ZQ. Yeah. We'll rescue my flock from their mouths and it will no longer be food for them. Mm-hmm. For this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. Yeah. As I says, I myself, God says ZQ.

[00:07:36] We'll search for my sheep and look after them and give them a can. So wouldn't you feel like the person saying that he's literally saying, I am God, for God, right? As a prophecy, through these people, Chastizing them and then berating them. Yeah.

[00:07:51] Wouldn't you feel like that fucker is like a little bit? Up in it? Yeah. Like, whoomst the fuck's my good friend? Yeah, why should just shut up man? Well, that, and I'm like why the Lord got a look for his fucking sheep. You don't know where they be?

[00:08:04] Well, we know from early on. You know, so they, you know not track people down very well. He does not have a good GPS. Even when there was only like two people around, he said some, he has some issues. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:15] He is not any better than these shepherds at keeping up with his flock. Right. As a shepherd, look after his scattered flock when he is with them. So will I look after my sheep. You know, if I could find them. Right.

[00:08:32] I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness. Hmm. I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries. And I will bring them into their own land.

[00:08:46] I will pass to them on the mountains, pass to the mountains. I will pass to them on the mountains. I will pass to them on the mountains of Israel in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.

[00:09:01] One would think if he was as powerful, if God is as powerful as everybody and God claims that he is, that he could have prevented those people from being scattered in the first place.

[00:09:11] And you would think that if these people were being evil, he could have rectified that earlier on before he they fucked up. Right. But no, he just let them be empowered. Right.

[00:09:21] This is the part where he's like, I will punish those who are evil, but not like right away or anything. You know, whatever it happens, it happens. But I'll punish them for sure. You know what it reminds me of?

[00:09:31] It's like, okay, when I was a kid, sometimes my mom would be in the middle of something and I was trying to get our attention. And I would be like, Mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, hey mom, hey mom.

[00:09:45] And then I would like start calling her by her first name. Yeah, to try and get her attention, you know? Yeah, yeah. And so I would get like silence and then all of a sudden she would turn around and go, what? Yeah.

[00:09:58] And so it went from zero to 150 in no time flat. Right. And that is what God's doing. Yeah. Like he ignores them for centuries. Doesn't answer, doesn't hardly talk to them, doesn't do very much with them at all.

[00:10:16] And then all of a sudden he turns around and just snaps at them and he's like, you're dead and you're dead and you're dead and and look all of you too.

[00:10:22] But again, but again, we're taking the word of a prophet who is just saying that the things that are happening in the world are caused by a God. Mm-hmm. Right. This actually has nothing to do with a God. No, I know that.

[00:10:35] I'm just saying like that's it's crazy people essentially. Yeah, very. I mean, I was speaking as if in canon. You know what I mean? Yeah. In canon this God that is being described here is a lot like my mom used to be when I was a kid. Sure.

[00:10:53] No, I got you. This character, I guess. Like literary analysis, you know? Yeah. This character is flawed deeply. Right. Right. I mean, coming outside of the good book. Yeah. Of course there's no God. Right. No, I know you know that.

[00:11:09] I just was trying to say that like I'm trying to put it in perspective because it's one thing to say that this God can't track people down and they can't punish the right people and all that. But that's not really what's happening that anyway. Right.

[00:11:24] There's just politics going on and war going on and these prophets are commenting on it from their perspective. Right. And their perspective is that they want people to probably come to their church or whatever the fuck it is back then you're like they're their group either.

[00:11:38] They want people to listen to them. And so if they can be correct in their quote unquote prophecies, they're going to gain followers which gains them influence. Right. So. And then it is a snake eating its own tail. Right.

[00:11:55] I will tend them in a good pasture and the mountain heights of Israel will be their grazing land there they will lie down in good grazing land and there they will feed in a rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. That sounds so nice. Yeah.

[00:12:14] I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down to clears the sovereign Lord. I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy because Bucket. All right.

[00:12:35] Yeah. I will shepherd the flock with justice. But you let them lose your sheep first and scap. I'm going to go find them guys and then I'll take good care of them. You didn't pay attention while they were doing it. You waited till they did it. Right.

[00:12:49] And then you got mad. Yeah. Okay. That is correct. Yep. As for you, my flock. This, this is what Saladin Lord says. Okay. I, God says this is real. Well, judge between one sheep and another and between rams and goats.

[00:13:09] So he's saying he's going to take it on a case by case basis. But that's not what it sounded like to me. He's like doing whole swaths. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I'm not really sure where he's going with this exactly yet.

[00:13:22] Well, he says he's going to judge between one sheep and another. But as he was going to judge them for. Okay. We haven't finished the, the, the plot. So I'm just curious. Okay. Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture?

[00:13:36] Must you also trample the rest of your pasture with your feet? Is it not enough for you to drink clear water? Must you also muddy the rest with your feet? Must my flock feed on what you have trampled and drink what you have mudied with your feet?

[00:13:55] So he's saying like not only are yall sinning, but on top of that, you're leading these other fuckers into sin as well. Right. Right. And so like you're not just in trouble since your leadership, you're not just in trouble

[00:14:09] for what you are actually doing your own sacrifices and idol worship and whatever sex depraved things that you're doing or whatever. Right. Not only are you in trouble for that, but because you are a leader and you let those people

[00:14:24] to do it too, now you're in trouble big time. Got it. Got it. I think that's what this is. Okay. Getting at like you're, you're not just drinking the, I thought I thought maybe he was judging

[00:14:36] the actual flock because that's kind of what he was talking about and saying that if you are not, if I'm saving you and you're not rectifying your ways, then you're still might be fucked. Like that's, that's where I thought he was going with that.

[00:14:49] Well, he's saying that you're drinking the good water. Yeah. And then on top of that, not only did you get something good for yourself, but then you dirty it for everybody else. And he, this whole chapter is addressed to the shepherds. Got it. So that's okay.

[00:15:10] What is getting at like he's, I thought I just thought he was talking to the flock here. That's all. No, he's talking about his flock, but to the shepherds. He's like you shepherds fucking suck. Okay. Okay.

[00:15:25] Must my flock feed on what you shepherds have trampled and drink what you have muddied with your feet. Okay. Therefore this is what sovereign Lord says to them, got it. The shepherd. Right. The reason I thought that I guess is because he was going to destroy them.

[00:15:41] So what does a fucking matter? You're going to destroy them and bring them your people back to feed on the good thing. Oh, that was a different chapter right now. What was this chapter? Well, this whole chapter he's been saying, you fucking shepherds, I will destroy you right.

[00:15:55] Like the previous chapter yesterday was about the people and he was telling them, I'm going to destroy your asses. Right. I'm going to murder you. And he'll kill him. He'll kill him. Why don't you give in? Who the fuck is destroying? There's so many.

[00:16:09] Well, this chapter is specifically the whole thing based on the notes that I read. The whole thing is addressed to the leadership got it. So yesterday was the people today is the leadership. All right. And that's why he's talking about them as shepherds because Right.

[00:16:22] as they're the leaders and they're leading the flock and the flock, whatever. You're leading them astray. And so he's like, I'm gonna fuck your shed up. Right. You're worse than the fucking people because you know better and you led them to do it.

[00:16:36] They might not have done it. Right. I'm still gonna punish the fuckers. Yeah, yeah. Because you know, I'm God and I can and I'm, I like pain. Right, yeah, it seems that way. Yeah. Pain. Therefore this is what the solver and Lord sends to them. Okay.

[00:16:51] See, I myself will judge between the fat sheep and the lean sheep. Okay. Because some be fat and some be lean. I'm assuming lean is better. Maybe you have no idea. Because you shove with flank and shoulder, budding all the weak sheep with your horns

[00:17:11] until you have driven them away, I will save my flock and they will no longer be plundered. Okay. shove with flank and shoulder. You just saying that they're, they're the bigger and stronger. So they're, they're, they're giving everybody else out of their way.

[00:17:27] And they're taking the spoils of fat. These are like the ramps. Yeah. Because he's talking about their horns. Right. You're pushing them away and taking all the good. Okay. I will save my flock and they will no longer be plundered. Okay.

[00:17:41] So he's saying you guys are like grifting them and taking advantage of them. Yes. Okay. I will judge between one sheep and another. I will place over them, one shepherd, my servant David. Okay. Which that's interesting. Yeah. I don't really know.

[00:18:00] I mean like we keep coming back to this David thing. Right. And like at one point we had David and then David died. And then we had you know the line of David. And then we lost the line of David. Is that a kayak, right?

[00:18:14] I think that's probably somewhere around there. Yeah. Okay. And then we have like zombie David maybe. Okay. Because remember he was going to come back like the Lee was going to read whatever the line or something. So is this what he's talking about right now? I don't know.

[00:18:28] My zombie David servant. Maybe Zee Heal has been down in Babylon too long. Doesn't really know that the line of David has gone. Right. You know, maybe he just doesn't even get the news. He didn't get it. I have no idea.

[00:18:40] So anyway, I will place over them one shepherd. My servant David and he will tend to them. He will tend them and be their shepherd. So this is where Christians talk about Jesus as the shepherd that he was referring to. Yeah, but they're saying David though.

[00:18:59] And it's interesting because in the Old Testament David is the figure. Yeah. Right. Like David is the one Moses. But later on once we get past the the the Torah. Yeah. We are we're talking more about the David line right and the the old David is everything

[00:19:15] but what I mean is the guy. And it's very it's very interesting because like you said and I don't know this yet specifically, but like a lot of the David stuff is interpreted as Jesus. Yeah.

[00:19:28] And it's just not that that's not what it is or pre Jesus or Jesus is redavid. Right. I mean the reason that people say that that's the case is because the the New Testament had to co-op things from the Old Testament and make them their own right.

[00:19:46] And so it did but it fails to actually pull in like it's not they're not great writers so they're not able like they should have gone back and edited the Old Testament if they were going to do this.

[00:19:59] But but no, they left the David shit in and they they're just claiming that that's you know the David line is going to be Jesus which I guess we can fantasize that that is something that might be possible I guess but it seems really really really really far

[00:20:17] fetched to me. I feel like they're really really trying to stretch it right and the fact that we don't even say we're just saying David we're not saying the line of David would maybe

[00:20:25] it's implied right sure but the fact that he says David just shows how much influence this character had in the Old Testament. It's really weird to me. Yeah. I mean not weird that he had influence weird that Zikios like yeah hey God told me that David

[00:20:43] is going to come take care of the flock don't worry about it. Right. I'm sorry what? Yeah. David like that David or like David down the street like my friend David. Right.

[00:20:54] And I think it's I think it's really funny how how I learned what I did know before coming into this podcast about the Bible. The Bible to me was just a bunch of like not really coherent stories about various things that happened in those times, right?

[00:21:14] Those times being biblical times anytime during but like I didn't know the difference right? Jesus David they could have all happened in the same fucking decade for a line of

[00:21:21] the same you know it didn't make any difference to me when it all happened but they were just a bunch of like kind of bedtime stories that you would hear and I don't mean that they were bedtime stories.

[00:21:32] Yeah there's I'm sure there's a book out there that is exactly that but they were just you know like no was our yeah yeah that kind of time very child like just fairy tale stories

[00:21:44] is how it kind of got dispersed to me right through just social interaction with other people and everything. Right over here in yeah yeah so I don't know where I was going with that except for

[00:21:55] that it's I don't feel like there is a coherent message between this line of David and Jesus and I feel like there's a lot of pieces missing but I feel like there's huge pieces missing between the Torah stuff and the the King's novel that happened.

[00:22:21] Yeah like it stops being like story time and passing on the name and be gating yeah and then it starts being like okay but now we're talking about the history of David

[00:22:35] ready to go and I was like wait what yeah yeah I know it's it's very different for sure. Yeah it's it's not great storytelling. They were they were trying I think probably in that time Kings were trying to make

[00:22:50] names for themselves and they were co-opting this religion to try to bring themselves forward right and so David obviously won out in the end for the most part but like Solomon's up there you know Samuels up there like there's some very famous quote unquote Kings not they

[00:23:06] were Kings but I mean they they used religion to make their name bigger or some of them didn't right yeah some of them actually some of them suck like if you were a bad King you're not

[00:23:18] gonna get as much of a mention and except they did though they didn't have like all the stories and they were like mentioned as and he was so evil and bad and god didn't like that one

[00:23:29] but they still get a mention right but I'm saying that the ones that don't get the like the David not the ones that aren't David and Samuel and and Solomon are ones that had you know

[00:23:40] worse PR teams I guess you know like they they didn't have people creating the right environment around what they were in relation to this religion. Yeah I get what you're saying I just find it interesting because

[00:23:55] um these people took the name the recording of the names and the ancestry. Yeah very seriously so to me it would have made more sense if they would have left the bad Kings out like

[00:24:12] ooh burn like the King who shall not be named during this ring he was evil so we don't talk about him. Right but I think the failing probably was that they were not exactly story tellers

[00:24:23] so much as chronologists. They were they were chron um chronicles. They were chronically. Yeah. What was happening in history and that's essentially what the Old Testament is once we get past the Torah right where we're just documenting what is happening with regard to their their lives

[00:24:41] and it's told from a biblical standpoint a religious standpoint but it is it is definitely very much a uh history of these kings and the the the happenings that are going on with regard

[00:24:55] to them getting conquered and everything else. Right and it's just it once we get past the initial part of the Bible that we started then it just becomes a history of Israel essentially. Yeah

[00:25:06] just I don't know it's like you said it's not what I expected. Right it's not what I thought it was and sometimes it's boring and sometimes it's weird but let me continue. Yes please please.

[00:25:17] I the Lord according to Ezekiel will be their God and my servant David will be prints among them. So he's not that wasn't just a one off. Yeah. He's saying it again. Yeah. I the Lord of Spoken. Okay.

[00:25:31] Again, not not the line of David but David. My servant David. Right. My my due David. I'm interested in digging into this um the way it's phrase. Yeah me too late. I'm sorry. What did you mean by that sir?

[00:25:44] Right. Yeah. I need a TARDIS so I can go back and like ask him like wouldn't that be amazing you could go back and ask these people what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Like when you say

[00:25:55] David did you actually mean like the David or did you mean some other David? Yeah because it gets a little confusing later in that history dude. And then and then when so you meant the David so

[00:26:06] wasn't he already dead though? Right. So what did you mean by that? Yeah. Yeah. What is that supposed to good? Oh it was all symbolism and wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Oh we weren't supposed

[00:26:18] to read it as though it's exact. We were supposed to understand that it's allegory and shit. Oh, fail. Yeah. Can you include those instructions? We're going to need this for future clarification. Yeah because um they think that you're talking about David for realsies. Well they think

[00:26:35] you're talking about Jesus for you don't even know anything about. Right. Exactly. I God according to his E.K. Yeah. We'll make a covenant of peace with them and read the land of savage beasts

[00:26:48] so that they may live in the wilderness and sleep in the forest since safety. I will make them and the places surrounding my hill, a blessing. I will send down showers in season there will be

[00:27:03] showers of blessing. The trees will yield their fruit and the ground will yield its crop. The hills are alive with the sound of music. Right. Yeah and I have to comment here too because

[00:27:19] we just got done talking about Jesus and stuff and then in line of David and all that but with regard to the prophecies that are happening right now, right? He's going to make everything

[00:27:30] peaceful and wonderful and they're going to be grazing in the good hills and all that wonder what you're right. I'm creating the Garden of Eden. So let's just step into this for a second

[00:27:38] assume that we're talking about Jesus. Right? Okay. And so Jesus was killed by the Romans when he was here. Yeah. Right. Things weren't great for the Israelites from what I understand. They were

[00:27:51] conquered at that point. They weren't on their own lands. Right. And so at that point in time, when this king of this line of David person who is Jesus apparently according to Christians

[00:28:04] was here on earth, things were not as God states here. Right. This is not a completion of that prophecy. Now I get that a lot of people were like, what's the second coming that's going

[00:28:15] to matter? But he's not he's just like, no David's coming over. Yeah. He's not like a sun, sun, sun, sun of David is coming over twice. Yeah. He's coming over and then I'm going to have them

[00:28:28] like die and then he's going to come again. Like that's not what he's saying here. He's just like David's coming over. Right. Yeah. I know if we're prophesizing, let's prophesize right? This is not a

[00:28:39] prophecy of what actually is even in the Bible from my standpoint. No, I agree. So like from my standpoint, if this is a prophecy of Jesus, Jesus should have brought the good when he came the first time.

[00:28:51] Right. But he didn't. Right. Exactly. And if he didn't bring it and we're still waiting, this is a long fucking way. It's kind of ridiculous and silly. Yeah. And childish. It is. It

[00:29:03] is. It makes me like, look at them like really? What an every generation. Every generation has thought that their kind that this God is coming in. This is the every apocalypse it's the end of the world.

[00:29:13] It's still happening. Why two K. It blows me away every time I hear somebody say that, you know, the second coming like they're going to be raptured. The second coming is coming. It's coming. It's coming.

[00:29:23] This is crazy talk. I know. It's fucking crazy talk and it's not like if you read this with any bit of just curiosity interests, if you just question it a little bit, you find the flaws immediately.

[00:29:38] Right. And I just don't understand how this is something that is so prevalent in our culture as to where it actually takes over common sense and ruins things like science and like

[00:29:53] we're still allowing our religion in this day and age where we have iPhones to tell us that these ideas of thousands of years ago are better than we have come up with in the meantime.

[00:30:06] Right. I don't get it. I'm like, well if you think that's true then why don't you go ahead and get rid of your car, your phone, your microwave. Sure. Yeah. All of you are. Or some of them do. You know we've got there's still like we got the

[00:30:18] all my shout out there. I don't really know much about their religion and that would be something that would be interesting to find it out. And the quickers. No, the quickers are not that way. That's okay. German Baptists are somewhat that way. Okay.

[00:30:32] But yeah, it's mostly the all my the German Baptists. I can't remember. I think there are some other groups, but the quickers are definitely not one of them. So that's a common misconception.

[00:30:42] Well, that is what I'm here for. I actually went to a Quaker Church for like a week. So I'm so I'm almost trying to introduce us to different churches and religions. Yeah.

[00:30:50] So you went for a week. So now you are in the know. I know enough to know that they are not that. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. I'm too soon. I was in the know. I'm teasing you. You're just

[00:31:00] the way you said it was like I went for a week. So I want to so Quakers are actually often times very liberal with their points of view as far as politics are concerned because

[00:31:11] they're community-minded. And they're very piece they do not ascribe to war of any type. Like they, they are very anti war. So there's a lot of aspects to what they are that are different

[00:31:26] from some other groups of Christians out there. So they seem like they actually live what they talk. I would be interested in learning like I know a little bit about them. I would be interested

[00:31:36] in doing a dive into them a little bit more at some point. As I'm sure we will. I feel like a series of diving into the nomination does do. Yeah. You know, so we got to get through Christianity

[00:31:48] first before we talk about the denominations. I mean, it's all Christianity. That's all Christianity. Yeah, I know. I just have different groups of Christians. No, I understand that. I'm just saying we- Well, we'll do that series once we get to the new testament. That's what I meant.

[00:32:01] Well, you said to get through Christianity. We're not through- No. We're not in Christianity. I know that. I'm like, oh god. Okay. So anyway, God is talking and He's like, I'm the best.

[00:32:11] I'm going to bring the Garden of Eden and it's going to be so pretty and happy and rainbows and care bears. The trees will yield their fruit and the ground will yield its crops and you'll get a

[00:32:23] care bear stare and it'll get on you and you'll have rainbows in your in your brain. I see. Yeah. The people will be securing their land with lollipops. They will know that I am the Lord when I break

[00:32:36] the bars of their yoke and rescue them from the hands of those who enslaved them and when they can pick popcorn off of apricot trees, you know, if God actually did come down and break the yoke

[00:32:48] off of me and preferred me from slavery, that would be sweet. I mean, that would inspire me to believe in him but that's not what actually is happened. No. So you- They will no longer be plundered by

[00:32:59] the nation's nor will wild animals devour them. They will live in safety and no one will make them afraid. That sounds so pretty. You know, I have to say that- In this day of age, there's not a ton

[00:33:11] of people I would imagine at least in very populated areas that get devoured by animals anymore. Right. That is true. Although, isn't it in Australia where babies can get eaten by wild denotes? Probably. Probably. Yeah. And how I get those dogs in Florida? Yes,

[00:33:30] as we share the video of that recently. But yeah, I- There's like I want to go to Australia but then again and like every time I think about going to Australia, the other thing that comes to mind

[00:33:38] is like there's the animals. The worst things that are down there. Why would anybody go there? I want to just- There's like a million things I can kill you. I want to go to New Zealand.

[00:33:49] Yeah. I think it's pretty there. Yeah, that was where Lord of the Rings was shot. I know and they made Steven Colbert, like an honorary member. Like they gave him a key to the city because

[00:34:00] he loves the Shire so much because he's in love with the Lord of the Rings. Oh yeah. Yeah. Big time. So I think that's cute. Yeah. Amanda Palmer went and lived there during COVID.

[00:34:12] Really? She was kind of trapped a little bit. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. But I always wanted to go see New Zealand. I think it would be lovely. Gotcha. Yeah. I God, Susie Keel. Right right.

[00:34:24] We'll provide for them a land renowned for its crops and they will no longer be victims of famine in the land or bear the scorn of their nations. Then they will know that I, the Lord, they're

[00:34:37] God and with them. It's so hypocritical. He is literally the one that caused those things. Like he claimed that he caused those things. Now he's like, and now that I'm fixing them for you,

[00:34:49] you're going to know my name is the Lord because I caused it. And because I fixed it. Yeah. Right. There's a Lord and it doesn't really matter what is going on.

[00:35:00] Whatever it is, I did it and you're going to know that I'm the Lord. That's pretty much how this book goes. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. I'm with them. And they, there is real lights. Are my people

[00:35:12] declares the sovereign Lord? So we've heard. Are they, you don't even know where half of them are? Right. And you're planning to kill like another three-fourths of them. Yeah. Yeah. You are my sheep. The sheep of my pasture and I am your God declares the sovereign Lord.

[00:35:30] Yeah. The sovereign Lord. Yeah. Oh. Okay. All right. Yeah. I don't have much to add. That was just like God is a dick. I don't, I don't know. God is a dick. We talked about a lot of stuff. I kind of

[00:35:42] lost track of what we were, I mean it was just like yelling at the shepherd's. Yeah. Yeah. Same. You were bad leaders. Right. I kind of kind of kind of got up, caught up in all the Jesus stuff.

[00:35:53] Right. Right. I got lost in that for a bit. So it's interesting. The closer we get to the end of the old testament, the more it creeps in. But it's not that it creeps in so much as that we feel what

[00:36:06] was stolen from it. Yeah. Well, yeah. And we had talked earlier on when we were doing this podcast that we didn't want to bring Jesus into it before we got to Jesus. Right? Right. But I feel as

[00:36:18] we're going through these later chapters, these later books. You know, that it's kind of important that we've mentioned at a occasionally. Like, that feels jesusy or like, oh, that's where Christians get that from. Well, yeah, because it's very pertinent to what is probably going to be coming. Right.

[00:36:35] Like it feels like this is going to be something that like we know enough about the new testament to know that this sounds like something that they're going to claim later on. Yeah. And so I

[00:36:46] see it seems important now to call out the bullshit where we see it. I'm at some level, you know, like I want to acknowledge that we are still in the Old Testament and that technically no one

[00:36:59] in this fucking book thus far knows anything about Jesus including the God of the Old Testament. Yeah. Nothing about Jesus. He's talking about David. Totally. He is up, David's blood. Yeah. And I know. I know. I know what the apologists are going to say. The apologists are

[00:37:13] going to say that David as it's stated here, even though they're just saying the word David, is the line of David. And Jesus is the part of it. He's the line of David. What are they?

[00:37:26] That he's kind of not thought. I know. I know. We can't like actually say that because that would ruin their religion. So we can't ruin their religion, can we? King DNA, what you're going to do,

[00:37:37] science? And I guess we are kind of doing that. We are. I'm okay with that. I think you're too. Faith is strong enough then I'm not ruining anything. I know. I guess, I honestly don't

[00:37:48] know like if you took the challenge, if you if you took the challenge to listen to us from episode one to now and you listen to all the stuff that we have talked about, I honestly can't

[00:37:58] understand how you would still believe in God. Yeah, I really don't. I don't know. I've been here through this whole podcast and I know that we started with an atheist land and we still have

[00:38:12] an atheist land. But like the things that we are reading, I just can't fathom how somebody can accept them at face value. Right. It makes no sense. And the only other people that are telling you

[00:38:26] this differently is your pastor who is cherry picking shit so that you don't have to think. You know like here is how this matches up with that and this is why this is that

[00:38:38] which okay great, I can make anything fit if you want me to work hard enough at it. We can we can correlate any two things and make them match up somehow. Promise. I promise I can make that happen.

[00:38:50] You can generally. I'm sure somebody to come up with an example I can't but as you know. You're a man. Anyway, that was a Zekil chapter 34. Sure's fuck was. Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with a Zekil chapter 35. All right, we'll see you guys then. Bye.

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