Ezekiel Chapter 35: Bible Study by Atheists

[00:00:00] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. For this is what the sovereign Lord says! Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want? If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible has done, then you can justify any of your behavior.

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[00:00:44] Wife! Do you know where the hell we are and how the hell we got here? Well, we are running a little bit late. A lot late. A lot late. So our podcast was supposed to release well technically it's Saturday now. It's Saturday.

[00:01:03] So it was supposed to release yesterday sort of and we apologize but we are getting this out this will be, We just got done with a Zeekeel chapter 34. Well we should say the reason that we are late is because the presidential debate was Thursday night

[00:01:21] and rather than record we spent time watching that show. Spoiler alert. Trump is still an asshole so there's that. And Biden is still old. Yeah, yeah that too. Anyway so last time we read Zeekeel chapter 34. Sure, it's fucked up.

[00:01:38] And in that chapter God is telling his shepherds to kind of fuck off. Sure. He's like dudes. You suck and you're telling the wrong message to these people and I'm taking over and y'all are fucked. I'm going to start view and then probably kill you.

[00:01:56] And let the animals eat you and I'm holding you responsible for all that these fuckers did wrong because you let them to it. Right, right. And there's punishment in there's punishment. And this is like the torture before the death type thing which God seems to like to do.

[00:02:14] The gleeful massacism. It seems a bit much. You know I don't approve of his ways of managing his people. I'm wife and I don't approve this message. No, no, yeah it's not good. So anyway that was the just of Zeekeel chapter 34. Yes.

[00:02:32] Which means that today we're getting into. Zeekeel chapter 35. All right. And before we get into this I do have one little side note that I want to mention because I can't let this pass without saying something about it. And that is that the asshole known as Ryan.

[00:02:48] The hell is his name Ryan? Seekress? No, he's the super intended down Oklahoma City schools or whatever. Or whatever. What was that dude? Yeah. Anyway, I don't know what I think it's Ryan Walters but I don't even give a fuck about his name.

[00:03:02] He doesn't deserve to have his name mentioned. But at a recent meeting they just declared that every teacher in the state of Oklahoma is going to be required to read and teach the Bible in school. Yeah, because they wanted to reflect the importance of how Christianity helped

[00:03:24] found our nation. Which like, broo dudes. I mean, this is just it's just these people are seeking the line light right? They're like, oh, this shit really gets attention. I'm going to throw my name in the ring. Even if I lose it doesn't matter.

[00:03:41] Even if I lose it doesn't matter because they're like, the Christians will love this. You know, the right wing Christians. The craze Christian Christian Christian. The matter of Christian. They're all for making our fucking country at theocracy. Yeah.

[00:03:53] They feed on this and they're like, oh, what can I do to up the ante here? Right. It just pisses me off. And it's like, this is going to go nowhere. It's not even a fucking law. It does go somewhere because it normalizes. You're right.

[00:04:06] This situation so that by the tenth time it happens, we no longer give a shit because we're like, Ben there done that and then one squeaks through and we're like, wait, what? Yeah. That's how this happens. No, I'm well aware of what is happening and why it's happening.

[00:04:23] It's just I had to say something because we can't let these things just keep passing without doing and saying something about them. Right. Let that fucker know what you think of them and let Oklahoma say, they're tell Oklahoma, no fucking way. No fucking way.

[00:04:38] No, just I, we have to say something. Anyway, I'm off my high horse here. We're going to get on with the Bible. Let's get on with the Bible. So we were in 34 and now we are getting into again. Yeah, again. You're a ZKL 35. All right. Let's do this.

[00:04:52] Okie doki. All right. We are hopping into a ZKL chapter 35 or is I like to call it easy kind of you took over my Chisholzikil. Sure, I just fucked it. Yeah. I told that because I didn't appreciate it so I took it away from you.

[00:05:14] This is my game. We play by my rules and you're always wrong. Okay. Yeah. There is that. All right. The word of the Lord came to me. Is he Kiel? Yeah. Son of man. You're a fucking worm. Set your face against Mount Sear.

[00:05:32] Prophecy against it and say, this is what the sovereign Lord says. Mount Sear. Okay. I'm against you Mount Sear. Okay. And I'll stretch out my hand against you and make you a desolate waste. Okay.

[00:05:46] I'm going to interrupt him for a second and I'm going to come over here to talk about Mount Sear for a minute. I was about to ask because I have no idea what the fuck we're talking about here. I don't know exactly where it is.

[00:05:58] I was going to maybe cover that more in like Q&A kind of thing. Yeah. But there was a note that said, Ezekiel's Oracle against Edom. So I guess it's Edom. Yep. Is a brief condemnation of Israel's neighbor for taking advantage of Israel's broken condition? Okay.

[00:06:18] The motivation for locating a second or not for locating. The motivation for doing this more vehement condemnation than the one he already did. Right. It's like really weirdly placed. Sure. Say the people. Well, when you condemn them before, it was we were talking about the Edomites and Edom.

[00:06:37] You know, we were talking specifically. We didn't say Mount Sear. Right. So that's a weird way to reference it. Yeah. And I'm not really sure why we did that. But okay. Yeah. It's very weird. I mean, sometimes they do reference things geographically, which,

[00:06:50] I mean, I can be down with that, I guess. Right. Why do we have the different ways of referencing it in the same book? Yeah. That specifically doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[00:07:01] It really doesn't because a lot of times you can tell the authorship of particular sections by how they... The terms they use and the very, yeah. Right. How they refer to something like if they say, you know, like 50 years or a lifetime. Right.

[00:07:17] Which doesn't lend to the idea that as E.K. will wrote this whole entire book. Right. And we don't specifically know, we, I think you dug into this a little bit before we started this.

[00:07:27] But they, most people say that yeah, generally probably as E.K. will wrote this sort of, right? But other people might not understand stuff. There was a lot of editing and redacting later. Yeah. So he may have written the original bits. But it's been chopped a bit.

[00:07:42] Oh, yeah. And I mean, you can tell, I think, by the way, yes. It's a spray spray here. No, I agree. Thank you. All right. So God is continuing to speak according to E.K.

[00:07:52] who goes on to say, I, God will turn your towns into ruins and you will be desolate. Then you will know that I'm the Lord. Oh yeah. That, that destruction shit always tells me that somebody's the Lord. Never. Never not be afraid. Yeah. Never not be afraid.

[00:08:10] Because you harbored an ancient hostility, you know, like the one we discussed several chapters ago. Yeah. And delivered the Israelites over to the sword at the time of their calamity. The time their punishment reached its climax. Hold on. Hold on just a second.

[00:08:28] The E to my delivered the Israelites over to their, to their calamity. Right? That's what they just said. Over to the sword. Right. At the time of their calamity. Okay? But this is God's sword. This is the sword of the Lord.

[00:08:44] This is God bringing this destruction on Israel for their own misconduct. Right? So why does he give a fuck if somebody's helping the sword of the Lord? I know. This is, this is the thing he is doing. This is the action he has deemed necessary.

[00:09:02] So why is it specifically because he didn't reach out to the E to my instance. Hey, I need your help. Is that what this is about? I don't know because he didn't talk about the king and I'd like this. Right?

[00:09:14] Well, I mean, he doesn't, I mean, Babylon doesn't even worship, you know, Yahweh as a God. Yeah. So I don't think anybody in Babylon claims that they heard from God and that's why they're doing this. Right.

[00:09:26] I've certainly not heard that in the Bible and I wouldn't believe it if you're going to feel they said it. Right. But that's not what's happening here. He's claiming that he made these people do this thing and then got mad at them for doing it.

[00:09:39] Right, but only because this wasn't specifically the people that he was using as his sword. Right?

[00:09:44] It's just this random other group of people that merely maybe capitulate in a little bit to these this massive force that was coming at them to help them destroy the Israelites that maybe they didn't get destroyed quite as much. Right?

[00:09:58] So whatever, I don't really blame them that much. If you see imminent doom on the horizon, you do what you can't not die, right? Yeah. So what? Okay. I'm sorry. I'm going to end rant. I just, that was that pissed me off. God's a dick.

[00:10:16] Fuck you all way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if we should be mad at anybody for sending the sword towards the Israelites, it's going to be God. Yeah. That's he's the one that said he did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[00:10:30] So because you harbored an ancient hostility and delivered the Israelites over to the sword at the time of their calamity, the time their punishment reached its climax, therefore as surely as I live, which you can do yet. Yeah.

[00:10:46] Declares the sovereign Lord, I will give you over to bloodshed and it'll pursue you because you know. Yeah. Pain. Yep. Yeah. Pain. We love that bloodshed in the Bible. Since you did not hate bloodshed, bloodshed will pursue you. Hold on. Like, I don't hate mountain lions. Right.

[00:11:10] Do they? Mountain lions are going to come after me and pursue me? No. No. Yeah. This is a poorly phrase sentence. I don't care for it because this equals that. Yeah. That's not correct sir. Right. That's not wrong. Well and who exactly is it that doesn't hate?

[00:11:27] That likes bloodshed or whatever in dumb, right? Well, see her whatever. He may be also referring to some of their idolatry and whatever. Yeah. I'm saying when an opologist might say like, okay, okay, you probably are seeing that they, you know, did child sacrifices or whatever.

[00:11:49] I just like the point out that we're taught generally in society, not to speak in generalization. It's not to speak in, you know, like putting everybody in the same basket, right? You can't speak to an entire culture and expect it to hold true for everybody, right? Right.

[00:12:05] So he's saying we're going to destroy you guys but who exactly is like, is it their leadership? Is it their everybody on the ground? Everybody there was for this like, who is it exactly? Right. And why are we destroying it? I think these things matter. Right.

[00:12:19] If we're going to destroy people and we're going to fucking kill them because you're God and you're fucking petty, what is your reason?

[00:12:26] I need to know your reason and I need to know, is this a genocide or, like, are you going to have a remnant over there or... Are you calling out like five people or like, what's going on? The whole town. Yeah. What about the babies, wives and animals?

[00:12:40] Because you tend to not like those guys. Yeah. And when you get on a killings for you tend to kill everything. Right. You kill everything but then you come back later and say, well, but I'm going to let some of them go.

[00:12:49] So you don't kill everything but you like to say you kill everything. Yeah. So you sure claim that state. God has got his little confused, often I feel and very much overreactive to situations that arise. Mm-hmm. And that's my assessment here. That's sorry.

[00:13:08] I interrupted like, and then I just went off. So I apologize. You are in a mood, sir. Yeah. Well, I mean, God brings it out the best of you.

[00:13:17] I got according to a Zekil will make Mount Sear a desolate waste and cut off from it all who come and go. Okay. I will fill your mountains with the slain those killed by the sword will fall on your hills.

[00:13:36] Is that like in your valleys and all your ravines? So like is the mountain kind of like a Twinkie filled with bodies? Yes. Okay. Sorry, I just, you know, that was the imagery that was going through my head. I had to say it so. That's a big twinkie.

[00:13:52] That's it. You know. Ghostbusters. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me about the Twinkie. Right. Of course. And then there's Zombieland where you love the Elvins and the Lafals and the Area. Yeah. I got according to a Zekil will make you fucking desolate forever forever. Forever forever forever. Forever forever.

[00:14:16] Your towns will not be inhabited. Okay. Then you'll know that he is a dick that I'm the Lord. How are you going to know it if you're dead? I was wrong. I didn't get that one right apparently. I don't mind this. I think I might be right though.

[00:14:29] You're right or then this book. Right. Because how are they going to know that you're the Lord if they are not alive? To know the thing. Right. I'm that's I've questioned that multiple times. Like, I don't get it. You know, I don't get it. I don't get it.

[00:14:41] I don't get it. Yeah. All right. Because you have said these two nations and countries will be hours and we will take possession of them. Even though the Lord was there.

[00:14:51] Therefore, surely as I live to clears the sovereign Lord, I will treat you in accordance with the anger and jealousy. You showed in your hatred of them. And I'll make myself known among them when I judge you. Okay. Then, no, I'm sorry. Then, then, then, yeah.

[00:15:08] Then you will know that I, the Lord have heard all the contemptible things you said against the mountains of Israel. Okay. Hold on. I got a note here. Okay.

[00:15:20] So where it said because you said, Eidam, that these two nations and countries will be hours and we're going to take possession of them. So I mean, they're talking about Israel and Judah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:36] So that's what this suggests that the Eidamites plan to take possession of Israel and Judah following the Israel like exile to Babylon. Sure. I mean, if there's the land empty, why wouldn't you move in, right? Especially because these guys were like, what, frenemy cousin kind of thing? Yes.

[00:15:52] And besides apparently, according to this chapter, they probably made some sort of a deal with the Babylonians, right? Right. So they're friendly or towards the Babylonians. Sure. The Israelites and Judah were, were rebelling against the Babylonians or whatever they were.

[00:16:07] The, um, who was the other tribe that was, oh, the shit I can't remember now. Those astronomer guys. Yeah, the astronomer guys. I can't remember the name right up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:18] I felt like it's like right on the tip of my tongue when I came up with it. We'll never see that word again. No, I know, right? So they, they made it, them, a pact. And then why wouldn't you move in, right? I don't understand the problem here.

[00:16:30] They, they avoided getting slaughtered by Babylon and their repeat in the benefits. That's all. This is like, um, two best friends, right? And, um, they're fighting over a boy, right? And, um, then one of them is like, okay, you can data.

[00:16:50] And then the other one is like just kidding, never data. And then, um, but then goes ahead and date some herself. Yeah. And then so the other one is like, oh, I guess he wants her, right?

[00:17:01] And even though, um, he was going to be with me because she said, but then she, you know, took it back. And so they're together now. And so she goes and dates the other girls brother. And then the girl is like, how dare. Never.

[00:17:15] I'll kill you forever and blood on mountains and stuff. Like, that's what this feels like though, right? Like, yeah. Three way fucking high school drama. Oh, yeah. No, if there's anything that is true, it's that God is very petty. Yeah.

[00:17:30] And I don't, I don't begrudge the e-demites for seeing the, the wind that's blowing and making it a decision to try to not die, right? The, the, the Israelites, the Judah. They, they died in mass and also got exiled from their land. Mm-hmm.

[00:17:50] And then, and God claims that he was the one that did this. But apparently, E.D.m. decided that, you know, it's better to talk to Babylon. So less of them died. Right. You know, I, it sounds like they made a good, good deal there to me. Yeah.

[00:18:04] But who might as judge? You know, I guess their God was better, huh? I, I don't know. I mean, God says he's going to destroy the e-demites. So whatever, I don't know if that's actually true or not. Yeah, I don't either.

[00:18:15] That's a Q and A type of thing. I have no idea. I kind of feel like all the people that lived out in that area are just like one kind of sort of the same people. Right. With probably even worshiped similarly at a individual level, right? Right.

[00:18:29] They might have had different types of priests in those areas, but like they are kind of... The alternate, each town was painted at a different color. Sure. And so they, I don't feel like they really... They felt like that was probably...

[00:18:41] They were entitled to that area just as much as these real lights maybe. Yeah. So I don't know. What a little thing is stupid. Yeah. You said continued God according to his e-gile. Okay. They have been laid waste and have been given over to us to defour.

[00:18:57] You boasted against me and spoke against me without restraint. Not heard it. That's what he really meant about it. Right. Like it might happen. Yeah. And you talk and shit over there. I'm going to kill you hard. Mm-hmm. Yep. This is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay.

[00:19:12] Wow, the whole earth rejoices. I'll make you desolate. Wow, the whole earth rejoices, huh? Just that one section of earth, but yes, the whole earth... You ever been privy to the whole earth rejoicing? No, because I'm aware that it's a globe not a flat disc. It's right. Right.

[00:19:30] Yeah. So no. It's all the way down. I'm just imagining like the American Native Indians Native Americans... Native Americans, sorry. I thought my bad. We're like just all of a sudden broke out in joy and jubilation because... Right. Maybe because of reasons. Yeah. I'm like... Yeah.

[00:19:49] And totally different continents. I have no idea what's happening, but just joy fell upon them. Yeah. Yeah. Did you feel that happy wave last night? I did. We think that was about... I don't know. Probably some fucking berries or shit. Whatever. Right.

[00:20:04] Because you rejoiced when the inheritance of Israel became desolate, that's how I'm on treat you. Okay. You will be desolate. You know, desolation? You're going to have it because desolate means desolation. And I'm going to give you desolation for how desolate you were desolating them. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:27] I feel like somebody... Somebody was reading through this old testament and being like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. His fuckers like an asshole. Yeah. We need to change the messaging here. Yeah. They probably even said Jesus Christ will like, We should use that. Right.

[00:20:42] And then they were like, you know what? We can't even use the same God. We've got to paint a whole new picture. Oh yeah. So they were like, yeah, we got to humanize them a little bit. And so that's like why there's that whole Trinity thing. Yeah.

[00:20:57] Because I don't know why the Holy Ghost, like I don't know why there had to be three. It's definitely just how it is. It's definitely just how it is. It's like they were mainly involved in the church. That's not true.

[00:21:06] Well, but that's what most people associate it with. That's what they associate it with. But like Southern Baptist, they're all into the Trinity. Yeah. Okay. My parents are Southern Baptist and they will tell you about the Holy Trinity. Really? Uh-huh. It's not just that.

[00:21:21] It's never heard that before. No. Okay. They all are about it. Interesting. Yeah. So, um, because actually I was going to church with them a little bit and somebody was trying to explain it to me and they used the ice cube principle which is that water can be

[00:21:42] in multiple forms at once but it's like all the same like ice versus water versus vapor. Yeah, I heard you tried to tell me that one time. Yeah. Like, how what is what is Trinity? What does that even mean? And I'm like, it's a character in the Matrix.

[00:21:58] Trinity. She's a badass motherfucker. Right. All right. So anyway, desolation, blah, blah, blah. They're all happy over there because you're stupid because you were Joyce when the inheritance of Israel became desolate. That's how much treat you. You'll be fucking desolate Mount Sear. You win all of Eidam.

[00:22:18] Then they will know that I'm the Lord. Yeah. Okay. You were absolutely right. I did a quick search while we were finishing up there and it is obviously Catholic, but Protestant, a lot of mainline Protestant denominations as we're talking about.

[00:22:34] Which is basically every Christian that isn't Catholic is Protestant. Right. And then the evangelical churches, including Baptists in Pentecostal, I've heard of called Pentecostal. Pentecostal? I'm not sure how you pronounce it exactly. I've been listening to a set of dangers a little bit. He always says Pentecostal.

[00:22:54] So I'm like, yeah, I don't know if that's his way of like, you know, jabbing at it or what it is. But I, it makes me curious as to the actual pronunciation. So when you said, no, but that's what people associated with just the Catholics.

[00:23:07] You mentioned as you. Me personally, yeah, no. I take back what I said. Okay. Me personally, I didn't know that it was anything but Catholic. So I had no idea, honestly. I think it's funny the more that we learned the more that we unlearn stuff that we thought

[00:23:24] because we didn't know any better. Yeah. I don't know whether that doesn't mean he like, logistical good with a show I view religion or anything. No, but it's just one more little thing that you're aware of now. Sure. Yeah.

[00:23:38] At least I can understand when I hear it that it might not be just Catholic. So that does help with understanding situations and where I hear that. That's a plus, I guess. Yep.

[00:23:48] So yeah, I almost get sick of saying how much God has an asshole in a day. Because it's repetitive. Yeah, but like every chapter recently feels like we've been talking about the desolation death and retribution and jealousy that God has towards people not listening to them and stuff.

[00:24:08] Hypolism and. Yeah. And I'm just it's it's really, really childish like the whole scenario that is set up with regard to how God treats these people is just a childish reaction to not really.

[00:24:25] There's nothing that rises to the level of the retribution that he and acts on that. You know what makes me realize though is given that this whole God thing was written by people. It really gives you insight into how petty the people were. Yeah.

[00:24:44] No, they were like I'm going to kill you back so hard. It would be really interesting to read the Bible from the perspective of a historical document as to how people reacted to things back then and and leaving the God aspect out of it.

[00:24:58] I think that would actually make for an interesting. It would. Like so the people back then in this area of the world were super petty. They fought over land. They were very tribal. They were very, you know, yeah and they fought.

[00:25:11] Retribution was a big deal and protecting their family name and they would kill the fuck out of you and. Yeah, if we could take a step back from God and admit that these ideas are not God ideas, right? Right.

[00:25:24] Just say the share of human ideas it would shine a whole new light, not a new light, but it would shine a different perspective on viewing this whole idea that is Christianity and Judaism and the history of it.

[00:25:38] And how people were reacting to essentially politics and war back then and it was with a lot of anger and it was with a lot of you know, they wanted revenge. They wanted revenge.

[00:25:54] That was that was the biggest thing that I can that I can take from all this is that they all want to kill each other real bad. Except for like the people that are in trade, like the cities that built themselves up.

[00:26:06] They were like dudes we just want to live in peace. Yeah, because you guys just stopped the shit fucking boring. Yeah, like I'm just trying to like dance with my share of hole and buy some. I don't know fucking wheat and so some goddamn corn.

[00:26:20] I feel like it's a very you know, like good comparison to what we're dealing with today right most of us as far as, you know, the left wing and the liberals are just like we're just trying to do our thing guys could you just like step off what the religion shit.

[00:26:36] Right. We don't need all this crap. And we don't need your hatred towards all the different people like what what is this like why are you doing this? Right.

[00:26:44] I just want to be like can you just tell me what is so mean in your heart that you literally take a stance against everybody doesn't deserve healthcare like why though we can afford for everybody to have it.

[00:27:01] Why would we not all like that's cool right like everybody on the planet could have good medical right. Yeah, right. We could actually like we earthlings you know human kind yeah we could achieve that if we all like pulled together and did it right that would be amazing.

[00:27:20] What what who fights against that and like says it with a straight face yeah I don't want some people to have medical.

[00:27:31] I don't know you're not even childish like what is not even childish about like but I don't want them to die of cancer over there or starvation over there.

[00:27:41] Well, you say it me intro right you have more empathy than this God is capable of right and I think that applies to a lot of people in the world. Mm-hmm.

[00:27:49] The this God of the Bible has like zero empathy he's not able to put himself in the shoes of his people or any other people on the planet and adapt to his. His teachings to make that better right.

[00:28:05] And one be hold the people attracted to him also have no empathy right one and that's there's I think.

[00:28:12] I'm this is very off the cuff and I'm just like what do you have something that I kind of remember from a while back but there's been there have been I think studies with regard to either.

[00:28:23] Yeah, I know it's talking about right wing Christian like the the far right and maybe Christians right and I don't know I don't want to say this with authority.

[00:28:32] But I understand what you're talking they operate more on their fear than they do on empathy and people that are like us that better. More left wing progressive.

[00:28:43] They operate more on empathy than they do on fear right so it's different parts of the brains that are activated in these two types of people. And that's what causes a lot of the the reactions and the differences that we have in society.

[00:28:57] I don't know how we fix that and I think that some of it I think a lot of it is due to how much you expose yourself to these fearful ideas or let yourself become fearful of ideas that are out there but.

[00:29:10] But some of it maybe just who you are I always think it's a lack of curiosity to though. Yeah, I don't know there's got to be curiosity because like I was not raised to have any idea that. There were other opinions much less that they were valid.

[00:29:27] Sure, but I was so curious like I want to learn everything if I'm going to say I am this thing that I want to know everything about what is it that I'm saying right.

[00:29:37] Like I was thinking today on my way home that you know maybe I want to start watching like women's basketball. Like I honestly like it's so in the news right now.

[00:29:48] Sure, but then I was like okay so I need like this is the thought in my head as I'm driving home right.

[00:29:54] I should look at all the teams and like pick a team and then like learn everything about like each player and I don't know anything about how they get picked and then I was like do I want to do college women's basketball or do I want to do.

[00:30:10] I want to do pro women and what about if I like learn other like I'm like thinking about this because I'm curious. I don't even fucking like sports what is wrong with me? Yeah, I don't know but I'm curious you know what I'm saying right right.

[00:30:25] Like I just I want to know things and if you don't have that curiosity sure and I think curiosity and empathy are linked.

[00:30:33] I completely agree. I mean if you if you if you have empathy you want to put yourself in someone else's shoes so that you can understand their their life better and then react to it appropriately right. Right.

[00:30:46] And if you don't have curiosity then I think I think you're right they're linked right that curiosity is kind of what drives you to that empathy like why is that person doing that? Well, let me think about it from their perspective. Right.

[00:30:59] I want to go from there like if you have one you're bound to develop the other. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? What in something we always say too is that we never want to stop learning right? No, yeah.

[00:31:09] That's a big thing is I think that if you decide that you know it all you have stopped growing completely you are not.

[00:31:16] You're not contributing anything to the furtherment of ideas or society at that point in my opinion because you have just decided that you are correct and that is not any way to operate in the world. No, no.

[00:31:28] I think the more that generations have kind of defined themselves themselves like everybody knows the boomers right and all their faults sure right.

[00:31:39] Like we see what they are and there are some of us me among them who are like please please never let me be like that never let me stop like never let me be done taking in new information.

[00:31:54] And to be fair, I'm going to I'm going to be a completely fair here and that's that I see a lot of atheists and liberals that have very close minded ideas about what they are as well. Yes.

[00:32:07] Not as many as are on the right but they do exist on the liberal and atheist sides of things. Yeah. It's more often than not men because I think misogyny is just so ingrained in our culture that it transcends. It really does.

[00:32:26] Yeah, I mean that's why you know that's why a lot of things. I don't that's why a lot of people we could go on all night about misogyny. I don't really want to go down that rabbit hole right now.

[00:32:37] Because then we could also talk about how like Hollywood and art are liberal and like they get kicked around for being like, oh those liberals and it's like yeah but that's because people who have empathy are more in tune with the arts.

[00:32:51] And people in the arts are more in tune with empathy you have to have empathy to be creative. Now I do believe I think based on my knowledge of a lot of people in my life and just observations in general right.

[00:33:05] I think that maybe as you get older you start thinking you know more than everybody else. Well yeah, you have all that experience behind it. Right. So ideas do start solidifying and you're brain more so. Yes. And they did it in the earlier age.

[00:33:18] I think that one of the things that if you want to keep progressing and keep learning that's very important to hold on to as you get older is that just know that you're stupid. Know that you don't know everything. And be okay with that.

[00:33:30] And be okay with it. Like I don't care who you are there's something you know nothing about there's something that you think you know something about but you don't actually know it. Right. You know those those things apply to every single person on this planet.

[00:33:41] I don't care how smart you are you have something that you're failing at. Well, I think with empathy comes humbleness. Yeah. The ability to be humble. I mean, God, like this so gets into like psychology and right. Right. Yeah. Definitely. We're so far off topic. We really are.

[00:34:01] So I think let's you ready to wrap this up for tonight. I am. All right. So that was a Zekeel chapter 35. Sure. Before we hop out of here, I do want to say that we are still going to be behind. Point into this weekend.

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