Bible Study by Atheists: Ezekiel Chapters 31 - 35 plus Q&A

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[00:01:45] The law of cross-release and the 0800, 24, 24, 008. that kind of tracks because my your voice has been kind of walky lately. Yeah, my throat is still recent sicknesses. Yeah. Yeah. And for those of you who didn't join our special episode that we put out yesterday,

[00:02:17] wife is back and sorry for the absence. Yeah, I had a running fever of between 99 and 102 points, something to grease for about four days. And my throat was so painful that I was crying and it was bad. It was terrible. Swold closed. It was all the bad.

[00:02:37] I had to go to emergency room. Yeah. It was painful and horrible and I'm back. And so yay. And so that is why my voice went who's been? So anyway, do you know what we're doing today? Well, so it was last week at this

[00:02:54] point, but the last time we were doing a episode about the Bible, it was, um, oh shit. What, what book are we in? We're in the sea. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I knew what chapter right. Well, look, we're in a sea. We were reading a sea heal chapter 30.

[00:03:08] Yes, that is correct. And in that chapter, God, tell me what happened because I really don't remember. Well, it was, we, so it was like the second part of a two part thing where God was chastising Egypt for not doing things correctly, I guess. So okay.

[00:03:26] Anyway, that was, and then, and then the prophecy, this, it was going to be wrong because God was like, this is going to happen for like 40 years. You're going to be dispersed for like 40 years and y'all are going to be torn apart and scattered and all a wonderful

[00:03:39] shit, right? But the thing is that in history during the time that Nebuchadnezzar was fighting them, they never fully conquered them. And so therefore the prophecy in the Bible is wrong. It's wrong. So it's, that's what happened. God was wrong by the time. That's mistaken.

[00:03:56] That's what, that's what, what, um, or that or Zikael was mistaken and was a false prophet. I mean, yeah, the either way. If we're going to attend that God is real, he was mistaken, knowing that God isn't real. That means that Zikael is false prophet and liar.

[00:04:12] One way or the other, something in the Bible is not right. Yep. That's all I'm saying. That happened. So that was a Zikael chapter 30. Yes it was. Which means that today we're getting into. Easy Kyle, a Zikael chapter 31. Alright, let's do this. Okidoki. Alright, we are jumping into

[00:04:35] easy Kyle chapter 31. Alright. And it starts out like this because you said it was a part two last week or last so this is a part three. Ok, well I didn't know that yet. We're still we're still hollering at Egypt. Got it. Ok. Ok.

[00:04:51] And the 11th year in the third month on the first day, the word of the Lord came to me. Ok. Ok, and I got to take you. Can't do it Zikael. Me is Zikael. Yeah, not me wife. Right. I got a date for you. Ok. This corresponds to

[00:05:06] around June 19th to the 21st in 587 BCE. Ok. A month before Jerusalem was taken by the childy ends. Got it. Alright? Yep. So this is what God says. Ok ready? I'm ready. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. You fucking worm. Say to Pharaoh,

[00:05:26] King of Egypt and to his courts, who can be compared with you in majesty? Because you know, you're awesome. Right? Right? Love you Egypt. You're so fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. Consider a Syria once a cedar in Lebanon with beautiful branches over shadowing the forest. It towered on high.

[00:05:49] It's top above the thick foliage. The waters nourished it. Deep springs made it grow tall. Their streams float all around its base. And send their channels to all the trees of the field. So it towered higher than all the trees of the field.

[00:06:05] We're talking about a Syria right now, right? Yes. Ok. Just make it to you. Yes. I'm just one of the verify. Yeah, he... I actually have kind of a note about that. It's not a big deal but this is less a geographical note because he's like saying

[00:06:17] consider a Syria that was in Lebanon, right? It was a tree in Lebanon. Sure. The reference to Lebanon is actually a metaphor, not a locational statement. Ok. Because a Syria was a superpower which fell into the hands of the Babylonians and their influence in the region, of course,

[00:06:36] now had waned. Yeah. And he's talking about this tree. This beautiful tall tree that eventually fell. Which is a Syria. And so he's saying you're going to follow this. Yeah. So that's what he's saying. You're like, you're so awesome. You're also a beautiful tree.

[00:06:52] Just like a Syria and guess what happened to them. Yeah. So that's what this is. Alright. Alright, so he's talking about this great tree that towered high. It's bow's increased and it's branches grew long, spreading because of abundant waters.

[00:07:07] All the birds of the sky nested in its bow's. All the animals of the wild gave birth under its branches. That is a lot of placenta under one fucking tree. Yeah, it seems like that might be a little gross after a while.

[00:07:21] That after birth and everything else would be just sitting around. I'm going to say that that didn't happen because that's kind of grotesy. All the great nations lived in it shade. Oh, the metaphorical tree. All the great nations, huh? Yeah, because... Wait, but this was a Syria.

[00:07:38] So I mean, he's using Syria as a metaphor as to what's going to happen. Egypt, so all the great nations live in it shade. He's saying even Jerusalem and Israel, all that lived in the shade of Syria. Because they were what the greatest... I don't understand.

[00:07:53] He's talking about how great a nation, how large and a place of power. Okay, all right. And then they controlled the area. I, okay. And so trade kind of happened because of them. God, even they fell. Yeah. And you better watch out now, Egypt.

[00:08:09] Yeah, yeah, because right now, Egypt is the great power. I just feel like them giving this extra emphasis to how powerful a Syria was kind of diminishes the importance of Jerusalem and Israel. And some regards. Yes, I know because Syria was a huge nation,

[00:08:28] a huge, whereas Jerusalem was the city, the capital city of Judah. Right. And Judah was a very small area comparatively speaking. That's your absolutely right. So we're talking about an empire versus a small little kingdom. Right.

[00:08:46] I guess I'm more speaking to the idea that God's influence did not make Jerusalem as powerful as some of these other people, right? Right. Like it's not a matter of whether or not they were or weren't, right? Sure.

[00:08:59] It's a matter of this God apparently doesn't have the power to make his own people the most powerful Syria. Yeah. And that's where I'm like... And that when they moved... This is weird. When they moved into the area, it was supposed to be their promised land.

[00:09:13] And there was supposed to wipe out all the people who lived there. Yeah. Which some of Syrians did. Right. And so it's like, wow, you guys are totally small compared to this huge empire. And you did not stand up well against her. Right.

[00:09:31] That's the best way to save them. No, I see what you're saying. I'm looking at it more from the just... The matter of fact, this is the way things were... The legal part of it too though, the metaphorical part of it. Not the how it actually was.

[00:09:45] Right, right. No, I got it. I guess it was just the matter that this is God speaking about, you know, this other nation as great. Right. That part to me is interesting. And so far as they're not God's people.

[00:09:58] So then in that alone admitting the greatness of this other nation or any other nation... It is a little bit odd. It is interesting that he can recognize greatness in anybody but himself. Yeah, no, I'm for two seconds. Right now in the city. Only as in place.

[00:10:12] Only because it's convenient to do so. Yeah. Because he's like, they're so great and they died. Wow. Okay, thanks for that. All the great nations lived in it shade. It was majestic and beauty with its spreading bowels. For its roots went down to abundant waters.

[00:10:32] The seaters in the garden of God could not rival it. Nor could the Junivers equal its bowels. Nor could the plain trees compare with its branches. No tree in the garden of God could match its beauty. Wow. The garden of God is another term for garden of Eden.

[00:10:51] Sure. But that's again. I'm like, what the fuck is this? This is God admitting somebody is greater. I understand that it's a metaphor to say that this great thing is going to fall. But that is very complimented. But to even in a metaphor. Yeah.

[00:11:08] But to admit that as you didn't have the best, you weren't the best. You, I don't, it's interesting to me. It is. It is. I made it beautiful. I made okay. Okay. I take it. I take it all back. Fuck you. He's nothing that they're God.

[00:11:28] I made it. Don't forget. I made everything. Yeah. That's right. My bad. I made it everything. But he did give his garden or his people the most beautiful or powerful thing. Clearly. Because, a Syria got it. Yeah. So how that work out? Fuck you Jerusalem. Right?

[00:11:45] I made it beautiful with abundant branches. The envy of all the trees of Eden in the garden of God. I'm still kind of blown away at the worst. This was my favorite tree and I didn't give it to you. Right. Wow. Therefore this, I'm sorry.

[00:12:00] I read that wrong. Did you? Okay. Yeah. Therefore this is what the Southern Lord says. There's a great sea to towered over the thick foliage and because it was proud of its height.

[00:12:13] I gave it into the hands of the rulers of the nations for him to deal with according to his wickedness. I casted aside and the most ruthless of foreign nations cut it down and left it. It's bow, fell on the mountains and in the valleys.

[00:12:29] Its branches lay broken and all the ravines of the land. All the nations of the earth came out from under its shade and left it. All the birds settled on the fallen tree and all the wild animals lived among its branches.

[00:12:45] Therefore no other trees by the waters are ever to tower proudly on high, lifting their tops above the thick foliage. No other trees so well watered are ever to reach such a height. They are all destined for death.

[00:13:03] For the earth below among mortals who go down to the realm of the dead. Okay. Yeah. Good. This is what Southern Lord says. Okay. I thought we was already saying stuff. He says, I said, I said, I said, I said, said, said, right? Yeah.

[00:13:24] Remember we talked about this. He's the OG, Falkhorn, like one? Yes, he is. Yes. Today it was brought down to the realm of the dead. I covered the deep springs with morning for it. I held back at streams and it's abundant waters were restrained because of it.

[00:13:42] I clothed Lebanon with gloom and all the trees of the field withered away. I made the nation's trumbly at the sound of its fall when I brought it down to the realm of the dead to be with those who go down to the pit.

[00:13:58] And all the trees of Eden, the choices and best of Lebanon, the well-watered trees were consoled in the earth below. This is getting into some like talking about Hades or whatever. Yeah, it's a little interesting for sure.

[00:14:14] They too, like the great Seeter, had gone down to the realm of the dead to those killed by the sword along with the arms men who lived in its shade among the nations, which

[00:14:25] of the trees of Eden can be compared with you and splendor and majesty yet you too will be brought down with the trees of Eden to the earth below. So he's referencing here Egypt, right? Right at the end?

[00:14:41] And he's saying, even Egypt is more beautiful and wonderful than the trees and Eden and it's more powerful and more great. I made it so awesome. Yeah, right. If we let him take credit, he's going to take credit for the capture.

[00:14:55] I made this awesome thing that I didn't give you. But there's like multiple lands that are more beautiful and wonderful on great than his lands that he cared about apparently. That's interesting. It is really different than what I expected to hear. Right.

[00:15:11] I don't really expect the Bible or anybody in the religious realm or anything like that to admit that maybe God didn't make the most beautiful things for his people. Right. Talk about God, the people that worship God get all the wonderful things.

[00:15:26] They get all the glory and all the pretties and all the the bestest, the strongest, the fastest, right? Right. But ones that can fly across the sky and see it thousand eyes. Yeah. Oh, we got some dicks up in here. Oh, no, not dicks. Yes, ready?

[00:15:43] Yeah, you too will be brought down with the trees of Eden to the earth below. You will lie among the unsurcom sized with those killed by the sword. So like was hell originally for people who didn't get circumcised? Probably. I guess, I don't know.

[00:16:00] I think oh shit, your parents didn't circumcise you either man. Ah, sucks, doesn't it? Right. We're down here in Hell now. No. I just think these people were way too concerned with winners. Oh, they absolutely were too. And and badge. I mean, we're just all way around.

[00:16:14] Probably the parts that they, yeah, they thought way too much about that shit. In regards to their God and whatever that fucking thing represented. I mean, clearly they thought about it regularly enough to include God in the talks about Dicks and vaginas. Right. You know what I mean?

[00:16:31] It wasn't that they brought God to the Dicks and vaginas. They brought the Dicks and vaginas that already were in conversation to God. Like that weird. Yeah. Okay, last sentence here, uncircum sized, you know, we're all gonna die with uncircum sized Dicks. Yeah.

[00:16:49] This is Pharaoh and all his hordes declare the sovereign Lord the end. This is Pharaoh and all of his hordes. Yeah, so he's saying this is what's gonna, I'm talking about. Okay. The uncircum sized peeps.

[00:17:00] I know I was talking about a Syria the whole time, but that right there, that was a that that to Egypt. Yeah. I'm gonna get them specifically. I'm circumcised. Fux right there. Yeah, and the big dicked uncircum sized. That's right. That's right. Yeah.

[00:17:14] I forgot they said that too. Yeah. I don't know those Egyptians with the big dicks. I mean, according to the Bible. According to the, yeah, I mean, we don't want to say it's a context or anything. I don't know. That's just the Bible saying that shit.

[00:17:25] I don't know what kind of dick Egyptians have. I assume that they're just normal like everybody else's dick. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not entirely certain that I've ever met an Egyptian.

[00:17:36] I don't know that I, I probably have passed one or been near one, but I don't know that I actually know that I've interacted with somebody who grew up in Egypt. I worked at a place that was like kind of inner city.

[00:17:49] And so I saw a lot of people of different ethnicities. And I could not tell you what all the ethnicities were. There were a lot of brown and black people. And so maybe some of them were, I know one couple and their little boy was from Pakeeston.

[00:18:09] There was another guy who I know he was a Muslim, but I don't know what country he was from. Got it. And you know, it was just one of those things where I met people from all over and

[00:18:21] didn't really, do you think it would be inappropriate if, you know, I just carried around a ruler in case I met an Egyptian just to make sure that the biblical claims are true? I mean, this was thousands of years ago. There are dick's minus shrunk of sense then.

[00:18:33] Well, I mean, got probably cursed or something. Yeah. So I don't know. So something happened probably. Who could know? I don't know. We're not, we're not in the new testament yet. I'm in the fun with it. You know, everything could change what gets the new.

[00:18:45] Uncircummerized now in hell. Egyptians, that's what happened in the past. I just want to apologize upfront right now. I guess it's not upfront because we already. Yeah. I just want to apologize to anybody who is of Egyptian ethnicity or fact. Yeah, culture and we love you.

[00:19:03] Yeah, I just want you to understand that I am not making fun of you or your culture or your history. I am making fun of the Bible and it's really weird phrasing. It really is. It's depiction of your ancestors.

[00:19:17] Yeah, to be fair, it could have been any culture that he would have said about moving to the same fucking shit. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't do with Egyptians or anything. No, I just feel like it should be stated out loud that I apologize if our

[00:19:30] Justin and Banner hurt you. That was not our intention. We are trying to make one of the Bible. No, we tend to just go off on whatever's on our goddamn mind. So this is so to speak. All right. Well, that's all I have for today. All right.

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[00:21:02] Yes. With a Zeekeel or easy Kyle, as I like to say, chapter 32. All right. We'll see you then. Bye. Wife. Do you remember what happened yesterday and how the hell we got here today? Well, yesterday we read a Zeekeel chapter 31. We did.

[00:21:23] And in that chapter, God was, you know, he was chastising the Egyptians by calling out a Syria. He was like, hey, you know, a Syria over there? They're fucking awesome. And you know what happened to them? I fucking killed him. And you're just like them.

[00:21:38] Yeah, and you're just like them. You're going to be yours. You're so awesome. And I'm going to fucking kill you too. And guess what happened? He didn't kill them. Exactly. He lied. Exactly. He got it wrong. He messed up. God was wrong. Yep. It's a prophecy.

[00:21:53] We're in the prophecy and he's prophesizing and he's prophesizing wrong. So that's what's happening. Which is awesome. Yeah, that was a Zeekeel chapter 31. It was. Which means that today we're getting then too. A Zeekeel chapter 32. All right. Let's do this. Okay, no key. All right.

[00:22:10] We are hopping into easy Kyle chapter 32. Or a Zeekeel. No. I'm just, you know, I'm throwing it out there just making sure we got it right. Easy Kyle. This is the last of Zeekeel's prophecies against Egypt. Good, because he's so fucking wrong.

[00:22:32] He's going to fucking, I mean, like what the hell? He's just continuing the wrongness over and over and over again. So we'll chapter as well. I'm like, God, how much wrong can you be? Right? And we're about to find out. What's more chapters were, yeah.

[00:22:46] Yeah, because it was chapter 29 to 32. Yeah. Okay. So here we go. Okay. I'll be right back into my notes with the date. Okay. Okay. And the 12th year in the 12th month on the first day, the word of the Lord. To me. To me. Yeah. Okay.

[00:23:06] So here's what that date corresponds to approximately. Okay. About March 3rd, somewhere between the 3rd and the 22nd. Sure. Either 586 or 585 BCE. Got it. Or they're about to go. So after the invasion of Jerusalem and maybe like a year to year and a half after

[00:23:25] sure sounds like to me. I honestly, I cannot keep numbers straight, so I'm like, you can't evasion. Jerusalem happened on like 587 or if it was, it was either that or yeah, I think that's 587 or 586. I have to have that in front of me, honestly.

[00:23:40] You could tell me that right now and I won't remember it in 10 minutes. So anyway, he says, son of man. Yeah, mere human. You have fucking worms. Yeah. But before we go further, just in case anybody's been listening to us when we say the

[00:23:53] son of man, you're mere human, you're fucking worm. It's because like I realized that we've been doing this for a while and if somebody jumped in like in the last few chapters they're like, what is going on? What are they doing?

[00:24:05] And it goes back to God chastises his own people by calling and calls them fucking names all the time. And one of them was like he called him worms. And one of them was actually mere human or something like that.

[00:24:18] You're like you basically, you're just a human and I'm God. Right. And that's what son of man means. Yeah. It means you are not just human, you're only human. Right. I just, it occurred to me in the yesterday's episode.

[00:24:31] I was like, we're just saying this over and over again. Like it just kind of stuck. We never really discussed it. Right. Just happened. And we were like, yeah, that's I like that. Like this is the first time we've ever actually addressed it. Yeah.

[00:24:45] Like we never planned it. I can't like it needed to be addressed because we say it all the time now. We do. And I love it. It's great. But we never explained it to our listeners. So that's how that happened. Yeah.

[00:24:57] In case you were wondering if we are like, well planned out or anything, we're not. And that is an example of how we just drive. Yes. Husband and wife just drive. That's right. We're with well off of each other. Indeed. All right. Son of man. Yeah.

[00:25:15] I'm going to say that. Okay. You. Like a lion among the nations, you are like a monster in the seas, thrashing about in your streams, turning the water with your feet and muddy in the streams. Okay. So like a crocodile?

[00:25:34] I get what he was referring to him as crocodile before. Well, not in our translation. Right. But in other translations, he was. And so yeah. So me and this is kind of the same. I mean, that's what a dude does. He crashes about. Yeah.

[00:25:49] I mean, that's how crocodile kills its prey. Right? That is some violent shit. Those freak me out. I'm telling you, I said it before, crocodiles and alligators, to me they're the same thing. And they are dinosaurs, but they are evil. And they are fucking crazy.

[00:26:06] And I, oh, just look at their eyes, you guys. Just look at their eyes. I don't know if you ever saw this video. But there was a, did I, did I already talk about this? I can't remember if I did or not.

[00:26:15] There was this guy down in Florida and his dog, it was like a little shit sewer, something like that. Yeah. He was on a virgin Florida. And the fucking alligator crocodile, whatever the fuck was. It was like aator in Florida. Came up and like eight, his goddamn dog.

[00:26:29] He was fucking dog. And this guy was like hell no. He goes in with it. He's like, how to cane. He even went against it. Yeah. And he's like, goes in and start beating now. He gets his dog back. Yeah. Like you bad ass motherfucker. Right?

[00:26:45] What the hell? To be that awesome when I'm that age, please God. I got to tell you if my dog or cat got eaten by a gator. I'm like fuck, sorry man. I'm crying. I'm running. Yeah. Cause yeah. I ain't doing that shit.

[00:26:59] No, because I have seen those sons of bitches and they raise up on their, they like raise their whole body up. Yeah. And somebody told me, I just the young ones, no sir. No. No, I've seen the videos, not the doctored ones that actual videos where those sons

[00:27:16] of bitches, those fucking dinosaurs, those evil just gross monsters, lift their whole bodies up and they can run. Yeah. They can run really fast. Run miles per hour. Okay. We're doing five miles an hour. I think if I remember correctly. I can't run that fast. Right.

[00:27:33] You can't run that fast. No. They can fucking beat it. Yeah. I'm not trying to fuck with those things. Yeah. And they're my dog just said, it's, you know what I'm sorry, but no.

[00:27:43] Look, I look at those and I'm like, this is why humans were not meant to populate the planet because their remnants of the dinosaur age. And they are like a reminder of we were here first. Right. And they're right. They were.

[00:27:58] But that dude with the cane in the dog badass. I'm going to try to find that video and link it into the show notes. Cause I mean, he's got a lot of fucking stuff. He got a suit. It's amazing.

[00:28:08] See if you can find one where the dude like lifts himself up off the ground and just like starts booking it. Oh, you mean like, oh, the alligator. You mean? Yeah. Okay. See if there's another video of that. I mean, guys, that's just creepiest fuck. Okay. So anyway.

[00:28:23] Yeah. I'm not gonna get it. Sorry. This is what we do. So, Ezekiel is speaking for God and he's like, Egypt, you're a fucking crock an hour or what not. Okay. Okay. This is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay.

[00:28:38] With a great throng of people, I will cast my net over you and they will haul you up in my net. I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field.

[00:28:50] I will let all the birds of the sky settle on you and all the animals of the wild gorge themselves on you. The word gorge is like so perfect. Like it's exactly what it sounds like. Almost an on a monopoeia.

[00:29:06] I don't know that I would call it that because it's not a sound that is the sound it may. Right. Right. But then bodies, the action very well. Like you hear the word gorge and you're like, yeah, I know exactly what's happening there. Slurp.

[00:29:21] There's an on a monopoeia. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. Wow. That is, that is dark. Right? This is kind of cool like in a goth kind of way.

[00:29:36] Sure, but you know the part that occurred it's so God, the way he speaks about killing humans and other people is just so disturbing. I know it's kind of like nightmare fodder. You are kind of evil sounding. Like he's not really just kind of you are evil sound.

[00:29:52] Yeah. Yeah. He's like the way that you would write a God that's evil in your fiction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he is definitely the evil God. Right? Yeah. And I can't fathom how people read this book and they're like, he's a good God.

[00:30:11] He's a loving God. And I'm like, do you read the fucking Bible? Right. We're reading it. It doesn't sound good. He's excited about murder y'all. Yeah. I don't care who these people are. I'm assuming you're like one of the five people he actually lets go.

[00:30:25] But what makes you think you're that person? I don't know because I don't think on that special and it has nothing to do with my quote and quote sins or whatever. Right? I just, I know that a lot of people don't like me.

[00:30:36] And I'm pretty sure God would be right on that the top of that one. Yeah. Or is it terms Sunday Christians before, right? Yeah. So like if you're a Sunday Christian, you obviously have not read the Bible and more over you don't actually believe it. Right.

[00:30:49] Because if you did, if you read the Bible and you saw how God treated these people, you'd be scared out of your God damn whips. If you believed it. Yeah. Yeah. I would be scared to fucking death. Yes.

[00:31:01] And I know that some people that's how indoctrination happens, right? These kids get scared to fucking death. Yeah. And they can't leave. Yeah. And some people are actually that indoctrinated in that scared of God. But the Sunday Christians, those are the people I don't understand. Yeah.

[00:31:15] They have all these views that they're pasture or their news media tells them to have that are quote unquote Christian related. But they're not actually based in anything that they know about the Bible. Right. And they don't have the appropriate amount of humbleness with regard to their God.

[00:31:31] Yeah. Because if you did believe in this God, you wouldn't act the way you act the rest of the week, right? So like Sunday Christians make absolutely no sense to me. No, many either. I'm sorry. No, they do. They do make perfect sense. Sure. It's a social thing.

[00:31:47] It's all it is. But they also. It's a social thing. It's a social thing. It's all it is. But they also. It's also weaponized. What do you call it? It's weaponized judgment. You get to use that that that thing that you say, I'm a Christian, right?

[00:32:03] You get to say I'm a Christian and these are the things we stand for and I'm going to weaponize that against your beliefs because it makes me feel better even though I don't actually follow my beliefs. I'm still going to weaponize it against you.

[00:32:14] And I don't even know the piece of material that my beliefs are based on. Right. This is me off. Yeah. Really, this is me off. I wish people would just read the Bible straight through. Yeah. Yes.

[00:32:29] I think if you're going to if you're going to espouse that you are a Christian, you should have to read the Bible straight through on your own and determine what you take from it on your own. And I want to God damn book report.

[00:32:41] I want like, yeah, I was going to say I want you to have to justify 10 different evil acts. Yeah. You know, you get to pick the 10 and you get to use your own words. Sure.

[00:32:54] And then you get your certificate and your shining gold star that says you are a certified Christian. I'll even allow the thick of listen to our podcasts as part of the show. Sure.

[00:33:03] You know, like if you want us to read it to you, we're reading it to you. Yeah. Come here. Listen to us. Answer our questions for us. Yeah. Listen to the words of the Bible that we're reading. And then answer the questions that we have about it.

[00:33:13] I want to know that you stand on firm ground with regard to your beliefs before I take any of your judgment towards me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Before we get to talk about how you feel about me, let's talk about how we feel about your God. Yeah.

[00:33:25] Like let's do that and which one is he? Right. Because this guy sucks. He does. All right. Anyway, God is talking through his E.K. Yes. I will drench the land with your flowing blood. Oh my God. All the way to the mountains. Speaking of evil. Right.

[00:33:42] And revines will be filled with your flesh. Holy shit. That is this. This is it. Fucked up imagery. When I snuff you out. I mean, I do that on a shirt. Right? When I snuff you out. It's from God, right? Yeah.

[00:34:00] I will cover the heavens and darken their stars. I will cover the sun with the cloud. And the moon will not give its light. Okay. All the shining lights in the heaven. I will darken over you. I will bring darkness over your land.

[00:34:16] The clear is the sovereign Lord. The darkness doesn't really matter if you're a splatter of fucking blood on the ground. I know, right? I mean, you're going to kill him that much and fill revines with their remains. What do you care if it's fucking dark out?

[00:34:31] Like are you ruining the ecosystem or are you killing me? Pick a lane. I will trouble the hearts of many people when I bring about your destruction among lands you have not known. Hey, there's some people over there. I'm going to kill them too. Right. Why?

[00:34:50] Nothing to do with you, but. So I think you were saying that people that they don't know are going to be troubled by what happens to you. Oh, okay. Like, so they're going to see the bodies lying in the ravines and be like, Jesus Christ. Christ. Christ.

[00:35:04] The fuck is that? Like, oh, that's that God over there in Jerusalem. You know that guy. He fills people and ravines all the time. He's a murdery little fuck. Yeah, you just got ignorant. Keep walking. I mean, honestly, if like, I don't know those people over there though.

[00:35:22] I don't really care if they're. I would care if I came. Well, I mean, I don't think how would you know what did it? If you don't believe in that God, you just be like, who the fuck filled this ravine with a bunch of bodies?

[00:35:34] Either that or I would be like, Oh, there are way too many allegators here. I am. Or the correlation you might make. Alligators dead bodies. I'm not going to fuck with them, you know? Right. Right. They have powerful magic God. Yeah. Maybe it might be an alligator God.

[00:35:53] That's what I say. Yeah. Oh, like, didn't the Egyptians have some kind of crocodile king God? Probably they had all kinds of cool shit. They did. Like, I mean, they're like, we can say that because it's a dead religion, right? Yeah.

[00:36:04] We can say that Greeks and the Egyptians had the role. God, right? They don't really exist anymore. Like, look, no God exists. But those gods aren't relevant to our society today. We all collectively agree even the Christians that those things are funny. Right.

[00:36:21] Which is funny to hear Christians talk about those dead gods because it's like you don't even get the irony in what you're saying. You don't understand how this sounds to somebody who doesn't believe in your God. Yeah. Like you should really examine this a little bit.

[00:36:35] Like, I just want to tell Christians, um, unicorns are real until you can prove otherwise because if your God gets to exist, I want a world where unicorns exist. That's totally. Fuck off. Right.

[00:36:48] I God will cause many people to be appalled by you and their kings will shutter with whoever because of you when I brandish my sword before them. On the day of your downfall, each of them will tremble every moment for his life.

[00:37:03] You know, just a month ago I haven't killed and splattered covered mother. Yeah. For this is what the Southern Lord says. The sword of the King of Babylon will come against you. Okay. So I'm going to use never can desert a github. Right. Again, not showing God's power.

[00:37:20] He's showing this conquerors power. And it's not even somebody that worships him. And he's like, here, I'm going to have this guy that doesn't give two bucks about me coming kill the fuck out of you. Right. And then people are going to say it was my doing apparently.

[00:37:34] I don't understand that at all. I would say no, it's probably whatever God never can aser and his people worship. Right. That's there God doing that because they're the ones taking over all this land.

[00:37:44] If I was going to believe in a God, yeah, I would believe in the God of the conqueror. Right. Yeah. That's usually the way it goes. Not the conquered. Right. I will cause your hordes to fall by the swords of mighty men. Just ruthless of all nations.

[00:37:59] They will shatter the pride of Egypt and all her hordes will be overthrown. I do like his perpetual use of the word hordes. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of like the way these last couple of chapters have read. Yeah. It's in a very dark sense.

[00:38:16] If I'm reading it in a horror novel, it's very beautifully written. Dark is beautiful. Yeah, darkly beautiful. And if we can even just get over the fact that people actually believe that this got exist, then it's beautiful and pretty in love. We, I love this God.

[00:38:32] Y'all was so cool. It would be a cool thing to read about as something that was a dead religion. Right? Like to see look at this imagery that they're using like that. That is amazing. I would love to be able to assess it on those grounds.

[00:38:43] I would love to be able to. Yeah. That would be amazing. That would be really cool in a literary context because that's my jam. Right. I will destroy all her cattle from beside abundant waters no longer to be stirred by the

[00:38:57] foot of man or muddied by the hooves of cattle. When I have the cattle ever do, and again, I don't understand if you're destroying the people, what does it matter with you to destroy the cattle or not? Why do the cattle have to? I don't understand.

[00:39:09] I think he just likes fucking killing things. He does. It's like that one bitch that we talked about last week or the week before. I was sick where she took her dog out and shot it. Oh yeah. And while I'm here, I'm going to kill the goat too.

[00:39:24] Oh man. I'm drawn a blanket of the painting. No. No. What the hell is that? Something known. Yeah. Whatever. The governor of that. Well, she's not a governor. I thought she was. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Christy. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:39:42] She's like the governor of North Dakota or South Dakota. One of those Dakota. The apologies to the Dakota that does not come. Yeah. Yeah. No. We just didn't prepare to bring her up today. And we're not geographically adjacent to you. Yeah.

[00:39:55] It doesn't really affect the less the day basis. I don't know this. I mean, I don't know that I can name most of the governors in the United States. They're not unless they make some news. I don't really have any reason to know that. Same thing. You know?

[00:40:08] Yeah. Then I will let her water settle and make her steams flow like oil. It clears the sovereign Lord. We. Yeah. When I make Egypt desolate and strip the land of everything in it,

[00:40:20] when I strike down all who live there, then they will know that I'm the Lord. See, sometimes you have to read dark things in a candy land voice. Yeah. Yeah. I'm. La la la la la la. I'm going to kill you all. He he he he.

[00:40:39] Ha ha ha. Look to see the blood flow. He's doing this for the benefit of his people maybe or like the neighbors.

[00:40:48] I'm not really like, I don't understand if you kill them all and their cattle and make it dark and fill the valleys with their bodies and like completely to swear them which you didn't actually because this this prophecy actually never comes true not by nebuchadnezzar there is a place later that they do get conquered.

[00:41:05] But in the prophecy, it's nebuchadnezzar this supposed to be doing the conquering. So it's just this is all bullshit first of all and then second, it's not like like who are you trying to impress? What are you doing this for? Right.

[00:41:19] Like if you were somebody that survived in Israel wouldn't you be like, stop. Right. I mean, honestly, if if I was a human now and I thought that this got actually existed, if I believe that this got actually existed,

[00:41:33] I'd be looking for a way to you know get rid of that God right like how to kill a dog magic like an ancient magic spell we could track down. We gotta be late. We do.

[00:41:43] Buffy the vampires layer and get the scoofy gang together and jiles magic shop. This is not going to do we can't study it out. I can't truck with this God. No, no. How do you get rid of a God? I don't know.

[00:41:56] I guess we could call Sam and Dean see what they say. They have killed another of them. I guess you can't kill a God until you get rid of all the followers and that's. That usually maybe does it maybe.

[00:42:09] But then sometimes you kill the God and that sets free the followers from the thrall that they've followed. Yeah, you gotta be careful who you get rid of which one comes first, the chicken or the egg. No, I don't know. This guy's held on forever.

[00:42:23] I'm going to guess he's the problem and he's got people and throw it to him. Yeah. So I would say let's figure out a way to kill God's. Right. Yeah. Yeah. If anybody's got any ideas, you know? No. Obviously we're joking because God's doing exist. That's right.

[00:42:40] This is the lament they will chant for her. The daughters of the nations will chant it. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la I'm chanting.

[00:42:51] Oh, I thought that was in the Bible for a second. Are you kidding me? No, I'm a daughter and I'm chanting. Oh, I'm chanting. Oh, I'm chanting. Oh, I'm chanting. Oh, I'm chanting. Oh, I'm chanting.

[00:43:01] It's funny that you said, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob and we're talking about each other. Oh, that is funny. Yeah. But Egypt and all her hordes, they will chant it. Declairs the sovereign Lord. Okay. I was chanting. I don't really know how chance go. I mean, you chant, right?

[00:43:16] Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I guess it just has got to sound like a. Spiritualy, a fishess, maybe? That would be the best way to describe a chant, maybe? That's all I got. I don't really understand.

[00:43:31] Like what distinguishes a chant from like a scream or a yell. A cheer. Yeah, right, cheer. Okay. What is this? U-G-L-Y. You ain't gotten no value by you ugly. What? What? You ugly. Like, is that a chant? Little moon fact guys.

[00:43:47] Did you know that wife used to be a cheerleader? Oh, that's not where I got that from though. That's from the movie. But you know, a very good cheerleader. But I was just sharing a little on fact about you. I was only a cheer, okay? Whatever. I was.

[00:43:59] I was. But I wasn't a very good cheerleader. I was the only one that could do the splits in every single direction. There you go. But I could not do any flips or anything. Yeah. And yeah. And you were a cheerleader in Italy? I was.

[00:44:12] Which, I mean, that kind of makes it interesting a little bit. It does. But like, it's so much more impressive on paper than in real life. life I promise. If I told you the actual you'd be like, oh, whatever. Yeah.

[00:44:25] I mean, you just got to stick with the good story and leave the rest of it out. I know it's just everything about me like sounds so cool until I tell you the story and then you're

[00:44:33] like, oh, so you're just nothing though. That's where you got to learn the art of not telling everything. You just tell the fun bits, you know? What? The love people draw their own conclusion.

[00:44:46] I like honestly. It's hell in there that's going to be like, you know, wow, that person did a lot, you know? I like honesty. I don't like being like an Elon Musk where I like to

[00:44:55] my horn and I make myself seem bigger than I am. I like self-deprecation because one thing is that then nobody can come along later and say, oh, I hit the cliff. Right. I think honestly both of us kind of

[00:45:07] have the failing of being too honest about ourselves and everything so I don't think that that's I shouldn't have said. I shouldn't have said as a failing. I should say that society kind of

[00:45:17] perceives it that way because you're supposed to pump yourself up. You're supposed to be your resume, which is like talking about how awesome you are. Right. Whereas I'm like, man, I'm okay. I don't do. I will say you're a lot more self-deprecating than I am. But sure. Sure.

[00:45:33] But I don't hate myself or anything. I'm just not like overly impressed either. Sure. I'm mediocre and I'm fine with that. I think most people are mediocre. I don't think that's like a feeling among people. That's the exact description or definition of the word mediocre. The real

[00:45:51] question should be, are you happy with who you are? Yes. Right. That's the real question. Yes. Media, or excellent, or sub-part doesn't really fucking matter. It's a matter of how you perceive

[00:46:00] who you are and what you want to do and what you're doing. You know, boiler, the majority of us are mediocre and that's because mediocre means playing in the middle, not very special at all. Right. And you know, just speaking on a scientific principle kind of thing, objectively,

[00:46:19] that is what we are. Right. Right. So I'm fine with that. Laws of it. You know, we're kind of savourages. You know what it reminds me of? Okay. Totally way off subject. Sorry. But we haven't been going off subject to the call during this episode. You'll totally appreciate

[00:46:32] this though. Douglas Adams, right? Yeah. Zaffod Beablebrox looks into the box, right? And in the box, he sees the entire universe and his place in it and he's a miniscule, nothing. Sure. He's just absolutely

[00:46:47] a zebra right? Didn't make the press divert a little bit? No. Okay. The majority of people have been too long. I read this. I know that's what I'm telling you. Yeah. The majority of people who

[00:46:56] look into the box and see how much they do not matter and how small they are, go start raving mad and kill themselves or get depressed or, you know, go mad. But it's free in it.

[00:47:07] Somewhat. Yeah. He looks in and he's like, yeah, that tracks. And so he walks out and is able to be like president of the universe or whatever. Yeah. Because he's fine knowing that

[00:47:20] really doesn't fucking matter and the grand scheme of things. Right. Well, I mean, it frees you up to pursue your loves of whatever you love. You know, like a person, you can pursue whatever you

[00:47:31] want if you just honestly realize that what you do should be your own, your own thing. Yeah. You should pursue things for yourself because ultimately it's not going to make a difference

[00:47:45] to many other people in the world generally speaking, you know? So it's just not, and if you take the universe into account beyond that, obviously the universe doesn't give a fuck about what earth

[00:47:54] is doing even. Exactly. I mean, not only is earth not the center of the universe like our universe is not even the center of like the galaxy. Right. Like the universe is the whole

[00:48:08] thing. Okay, whatever. The solar system and then the galaxy and then the universe. I have a really hard time stacking. Like honestly, like I get them all out of order. I just had to, I didn't,

[00:48:20] I wasn't really listening that closer than I heard in the wrong order somewhere and I was like, wait, wait, that sounded wrong. You get what I'm saying? Like even the thing that is larger than us

[00:48:30] is not the largest. Yeah. It's just like whatever, be okay being small. Yeah. You know? Be okay being you. Yeah. That's all the matters. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. I accidentally scrolled and now I have to find my place. Okay. I was destroyed the cattle because I'm a

[00:48:49] fucker. Yeah. Well, you really lost your place pretty good. Yeah, I did. That's awesome. Yeah. I was down at the bottom. I was like, we don't know if I got this. I'm yeah. Yeah.

[00:48:58] Okay. Me, Egypt, desolate. Okay. When I make Egypt desolate and strip the land of everything in it when I strike down all who live there then they will know that I am the Lord. This is the

[00:49:10] lament they will chamfer her the daughters of the nation's will chant it for Egypt and on her hordes they will chant it to clear the sovereign Lord. Okay. That's what I had just read. Yeah. Okay.

[00:49:19] Yeah. Now in the 12th year on the 15th day of the month. Okay. The word of the Lord came to me. Is he you? Is he you? Yeah. So let me get you that date so that we can, you know, know what

[00:49:33] date it is. Right. That's very important. Yeah. Knowing the dates. This date. This date. Here's a go. Yeah. This date corresponds to somewhere between April 586 to March 17th, 585 BCE. Okay. It just depends on the researcher because they use different

[00:49:52] technologies and calculations. Sure. So they can give you like around about they can tell you like obviously it's either March or April. So it's sometime in spring but we don't know if

[00:50:04] it was spring of 585 or 586. Got it. Okay. I want to get into some really weird calculations. You should look up numerology with regard to the Bible. Oh yeah. We talked about that. We talked about

[00:50:15] that a little bit with um whoa yeah. That's a little number of numbers. Yeah. That was a patreon episode. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah. All right. So in this March, April of whatever the

[00:50:26] fuck year, 585 or 586. Sure. BCE. Yep. The word of the Lord came to me. Is he you? Is he you? Yeah. I'm just I like to make sure we say it like it. Yeah. Who am I again? Yeah. Is he

[00:50:37] you? Okay. Son of man. Yeah. Me or human. Yeah. Fuck him worm. Whale for the hordes of Egypt and consign to the earth below both her and the daughters of mighty nations

[00:50:49] along with those who go down to the pit. Mm hmm. And by pit we mean the underground, the shield. Yeah. But the the difference is that the pit and the old testament does not mean the same thing

[00:51:03] as hell in the new testament. There is a different understanding as to what that underground meant. It was a more um visceral real thing in the old testament because it actually referred to a pit

[00:51:16] like a sire of Jerusalem. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Good. Yeah. That that they're referring to and that that is what embodied the idea of the pit for the old testament. Yeah. It only evolved from there

[00:51:28] in the new testament to mean something more ethereal and more, you know, God light with the whole Satan aspect and all that. Exactly. Satan. Like there's people that say that Satan's in the old

[00:51:37] testament. There are a couple of references in the old testament. Like in Job? But it means it doesn't mean the same thing. It just means like adversary or the whatever. It's the word for adversary or

[00:51:48] the guy who stands up. Yeah. Questions that challenge you know our Christian, like to take the New Testament and back, Bill what they actually meant and say well that meant this and this meant

[00:51:59] this whatever and it's not correct. Like if you read this in the the um manner in which it's meant to be read from a Jewish standpoint. Yeah. It does not mean what the New Testament says it means.

[00:52:12] Right. That's just not true. It's not true. You can try to make it mean the other thing. It's not true. But you can still take it and mean you can still look at it from the

[00:52:22] the older perspective and say well that's what they intended there and it makes sense that way much more than filling of in for Satan than the New Testament. Exactly. Exactly. Like I know what

[00:52:32] Christians think it means. I would like to know you know the dude that wrote it down. What does he mean? Right. Because I'm gonna bet that if you believe in God that that's what God believed that

[00:52:42] day. Yeah. Yeah. That's what God wanted those people that day to think. Yeah, if we look at this is I mean the old Testament new New Testament right? God meant something different back here

[00:52:55] than he does here. Even if you take this as a literal representation of a God, that God evolved by the time we get to the New Testament. So it would make sense that his

[00:53:06] idea or his representations of what hell was would evolve from the old Testament to the New Testament as well. Right? Like that to me would make some sense but no, we have to make God make

[00:53:18] sense and therefore we have to make it all linear and at all is the same thing and it's all from the same God and they all mean the same thing. Yeah. And it just doesn't work in my head

[00:53:30] from what we're reading. Nope. So nope. So say to them guys that are going down to the pit. Yeah. Are you more favored than others? Go down and be laid among the unsurcom side. Those

[00:53:43] demons are concise. Not those not those guys with four skins. Did you not get your chain, your your our weener chopped? You didn't get your weener chopped. Then then you're going down to the pit

[00:53:53] man. You will burn in hell for that. Yeah, for that unsurcom size weener. You should have got your dick chopped. You really should have man. Yes, sons of bitches. You're humans. They will fall among those

[00:54:07] killed by the sword. The sword is drawn. Let her be dragged off with all her hordes. Okay. Again with the dark imagery here. Yep. From within the realm of the dead the mighty leaders will say

[00:54:18] of Egypt and her allies. They have come down and they lie with the unsurcom sized with those killed by the sword. Damn. That's what they're going to say. Yeah. That's what their neighbor. What

[00:54:31] can you believe these guys have to go lay with unsurcom sized other dead people? Oh my gosh. You know it strikes me that the Babylonians are probably on circumcised two and they're

[00:54:42] once killing them. Like they're all fucking on circumcised. Just some of them are going to be dead. Yep. That happened. And some of them are going to be Babylonian and some of them will be Egyptian.

[00:54:50] Yeah. Why does anybody care? You know war happens. Yeah. That's what happens in war. People die. And some of them are on circumcised. I mean it might have been a few that weren't. Maybe

[00:55:00] sure. Some people, I think are born on circumcised or born circumcised. There is like a condition and I think. Yeah. But if we were talking about that back with Jeremiah. Yeah. Because they

[00:55:10] were accusing one of those dudes of like he was born on circumcised. Yeah. And it's not born circumcised. Oh yeah. It's not circumcision. It's a condition where you're lacking the entirety of your

[00:55:25] effect. Yeah. I think essentially. I went call it a defect. That would be a mutation. Yes. It's a mutation. Sure. Sure. I wouldn't say he's a mutant anymore than like a kid that's born missing a finger.

[00:55:38] But if it's not. If it was a person who's born blind. But if it wasn't biblically or dame, but then it has to be a fault of a God so we can't admit that either. Right. Right. Exactly.

[00:55:49] But again like there are people born missing other parts and we don't give a shit about those. Yeah. It impacts their their genitalia. Then we care. But if they have extra parts. I'm kind of

[00:56:02] angry that I don't have a tail. You know? That would be cool. Like I've actually heard about people that have like the the remnant of a tail. Yeah. I think a lot of people get that

[00:56:14] surgically removed because I mean, I mean, I was joking that I would like to have a tail. But I mean, I think you know if you live in this culture it would cause a lot of problems. I have a tail.

[00:56:24] It would cause a lot of problems. Yeah. I've heard about people that are born with some kind of defect behind their ears where scientists have done like studies on them and they're actually redundant guilt. Yeah, I've heard of that too. Yeah. You said defect though it's a mutation.

[00:56:42] It is a mutation you're right. So I'm going to just say not to like I said the same thing. I just wouldn't like it's merely a genetic mutation as all. No, your your correct is a throwback.

[00:56:52] And a defect overcessive would we would have called it the defect in the past but the sounds to mean it sounds to you it's not defective just a human being that has something different from other human

[00:57:03] it's ableist. You have a recessive gene that showed up right exactly like the right. Okay. So Assyria is there with her whole army she is surrounded by the graves of all her slain all who have

[00:57:18] fallen by the sword. So again, we're talking about Assyria. Remember how great they were and they died. Well, I think they were saying I think the way it read was that they were going like Egypt the

[00:57:28] uncertain sides from Egypt were going down to the pit right and they were going down there. They were going to be with the other people that were in the pit and the other people that are in the pit are

[00:57:35] going to Syria. I think that's what that's referencing there. Their graves are in the depths of the pit and her army lies around her grave all who spread terror in the land of the living are slain

[00:57:47] fallen by the sword. Elam is there with all her hordes around her grave all of them are slain fallen by the sword. All who had spread terror in the land of the living went down on circumcised

[00:58:02] to earth below. I guess I can't take it seriously. No, like the fact that you have to throw in the uncircumcised pit is just ridiculous. It's like let's talk about some scary dark

[00:58:16] shit with blood and knives and a grave and you're going to get buried alive. And now about your deck, like whoa, you just took me right out. I'm sorry. Yeah, lost the thread there man. Yeah,

[00:58:29] like I'm sorry but that has nothing to do. Like that part does not it does not add to the story. Not at all except for an a religious sense. Yeah, because let's be honest it does matter

[00:58:44] religiously. It does but I just don't get it. Well, I don't either but I mean it's not not having accepted God, not not not believing in God. Why would we understand that? Well,

[00:58:57] I mean we do logically understand what they are doing when you know they say that the the people from Jerusalem or the Jewish people are circumcised and other people are not. Right? It's

[00:59:10] an indication that you're that you have accepted your God and you believe in that God and it's a sacrifice to you. It's a sacrifice right. Sure. It's all those things. Now, why they chose

[00:59:22] to focus on Dix's part of this is beyond me but we do know what it means. It just still is absurd in the whole you know grand scheme of all the things that we're talking about. Here's what I mean though. Like

[00:59:35] okay, the movie Willow. In the very beginning like Willow was trying to be a magician. He goes up to be tested every fucking year and the grand old magician guy asked the question of all of the

[00:59:46] applicants and they always fail and the question that he asked this particular year was which finger does your magic reside in? I don't remember the fucking answer because it's a relevant. Right? But

[01:00:01] that makes sense. Right? Like yes we use our fingers. I can see magic being related to fingers or God power something being related to your fingers or your hands. Okay. Sure. I cannot understand

[01:00:18] how where I pee or fuck. I can't understand how that that is not what I use practically in my everyday life out in the world. Right. Right. So I don't understand it other than other than

[01:00:33] that it's your most vulnerable part of your body I guess? I think that's a large part of what this is. I mean they obviously are very concerned about their their penises and ancient times. Right?

[01:00:46] That's how they they make covenant even amongst themselves. They they wash each other's balls as part of a you know solidifying deals and shit. I mean there's a lot of weird shit with regard to the

[01:00:56] the genitalia in ancient times. Right? And so I feel like they were preoccupied with the idea of this was a very important feature of what it is to be human. And so because it is a very important

[01:01:09] feature it creates the babies. It releases the you know your waist it does all these things and you know so therefore it must be an important part of what it is to be human right? So if it is an

[01:01:22] important part to be of being human when God asked you to cut part of that thing off that's a big fucking deal. All right. Yeah. I'm okay. That's all you're bringing at home a little bit. It was the

[01:01:34] realization that that is the most vulnerable part of your body that kind of did it for me. Sure. Okay. And I'm not trying to justify like I still think it's absurd. Right? Like it's not.

[01:01:44] I mean your face is pretty fucking vulnerable too. Like you could cut off your nose. Yeah. Right? Right? Like you could cut off your nose. Sure. Yeah. I mean there's a lot of things you

[01:01:54] could do but that is what they chose so that's where we are. I mean we talk about the next in the Bible now. Your feet have like billions of bones in a more whatever. Okay not billions but you know

[01:02:04] what I mean? Yeah. Like they're pretty fucking vulnerable. Like I snapped one of my bones just walking across my neighbor's backyard, you know? Right. So that's pretty fucking vulnerable. Like we could have it like chop off a toe. Right? So do you really need a pinky toe? No.

[01:02:22] Like you need a lot of your tools for balance. Like I think your middle toe and your big toe or the ones you specifically need for balance. Sure. I could have those wrong feel free to

[01:02:33] shout out at me what a dumb ass I am. Yeah. But there are a couple that you actually need for balance. Got it. But the other ones yeah chop them off. Give them to God whatever. There you go.

[01:02:42] So I wipe it. Okay. Yeah whatever. Pinnices. And if you're if you are a person who has a vagina you don't get to give up anything to God. Right. Right. So it would be more gender neutral if we

[01:02:56] cut off our pinky toes instead. Yeah. And don't forget like we we early on was it it was David actually that collected four skins from the dead that he killed to collect to pay for his wife

[01:03:10] which was some sort of a, typically arranged marriage type and it wasn't even biblical here. But it was traditionally I don't know. I don't know why the fuck that happened but he collected

[01:03:19] fucking four skins off of the dead people. Like so it's it's very the pre the pre occupation with the the the four skins is beyond me a little bit but I understand the the significance of why

[01:03:34] it's something that they might consider important and it still is absurd to me though. So yeah yeah it's absurd. Yeah. I'm gonna just leave it there. Yeah. It's also weird and gross. I'm not just

[01:03:47] gonna leave it there. It's weird and gross because Republicans today are still preoccupied with genitalia. They are but not just the penis they are very occupied with what is happening to

[01:04:00] vaginas. It's just that now if you want to solidify a deal with a Republican you got to watch their truck balls instead of that. That's hilarious. All right so they bear their shame with those who

[01:04:11] go down to the pit. A bed is made for her among the slain with all her hordes around her grave. All of them are uncircumcised killed by the sword because their terror had spread in the land

[01:04:24] of the living they bear their shame with those who go down to the pit. They are laid among the slain. The deadty dead, dead, dead, dead with other dead. And then they're all dead together being dead.

[01:04:37] Yeah. Got it. Mishek and Tubal are there with all their hordes around their graves. Okay. These are other yeah I think I remember the man he's made this summer or whatever so. All of

[01:04:48] them are uncircumcised killed by the sword because they spread their terror in the land of the living but they do not lie with the fallen warriors of worlds. They're in bad graveyard not the good one.

[01:05:00] Oh what's the bad grave? The way you do uncircumcised. Oh yeah okay okay. They don't lie with the fallen warriors of old who went down to the realm of the dead with their weapons of war. Their swords placed under their heads and their shields resting on their bones.

[01:05:15] Though these warriors also are terrorized the land of the living. You too Farrow will be broken and lie among the uncircumcised with those killed by the sword. So there's tears of how shitty

[01:05:30] the pit is. I think it has to do with like Catholics have graveyards that are hallowed ground. Yeah. If you commit suicide or other sins, you are not allowed to be buried in their graveyard.

[01:05:46] So you still get to be buried. Sure. But not in a Catholic. So I mean it could actually mean like just literally the burial rights that are being instrumented here by like the pit could

[01:05:55] actually in this case since it's not literally talking about Jerusalem and shield and all that that was like literally the pit. Yeah. And we're in Egypt the pit could literally be a fucking pit

[01:06:06] that they're just getting tossed into. Yeah. You know and that would make sense in a awful scenario where wars happening on a large scale and lots of people live. And it matters to them because they're in unmarked graves where their family members cannot come more than them. Right

[01:06:21] burial rights are even to this day. A very important right for many many cultures. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that would make sense as to like mock them in that sense, right? Right. So

[01:06:32] like you are going to be unknown to history. You're going to go down just one of many. Yeah. So yeah that makes sense. Yeah. Eidom is there. Her kings and all her princes despite their

[01:06:44] power they are laid with those killed by the sword. They lie with the uncircumcised with those the pit. All the princes of the north and all the Sedonians are there. They went down with

[01:06:57] the slain and degrace despite the terror caused by their power. They lie on circumcised with those killed by the sword and build their sheen with those who go down to the pit. Okay. So all of these

[01:07:10] back at that people and the dead. Yeah. And they're all in the pit. And the proverbial pit but a pit nonetheless. Yeah with fully intact eggs. Yes. Okay. Those bad bones. Pharaoh, he and all his army will see them and he will be consoled for all his

[01:07:29] hordes that were killed by the sword to clear the sovereign lord. I will be consoled. Yeah. That doesn't make sense does it? Although I had him spread terror in the land of the living,

[01:07:40] Pharaoh and all his hordes will be laid among the uncircumcised with those killed by the sword. That doesn't count. That's the sovereign lord. He and sound consoling. What did he say back there?

[01:07:52] He said he Pharaoh and all his army will see them and he will be consoled for all his hordes that were killed by the sword. I would like to look into that phrase in a little bit too.

[01:08:03] Yeah. Me too. Because that doesn't make a lot of sense. That makes no sense. It sounds actually wrong. It sounds like a bad translation. Maybe or just, or they mean something else by I don't know. Maybe the word consoled used to mean something different. Yeah that doesn't sound

[01:08:20] right. No. Right there at the end man. Right. Lost the plot. Yeah. So that was a lot of dark imagery and it's the end of fucking around with Egypt. I'm kind of, I think I'm happy about, I don't know,

[01:08:34] I shouldn't, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to pre-suppose what's going to actually be happening next. Okay. I'm not going to lie. I actually enjoyed hating these pieces. But sometimes I hate pieces and I'm like nope there's just nothing but hate. But this whole fucking

[01:08:50] Egypt and all of Egypt and Egypt needs to get fucked. Right? Right. All of that? I enjoyed hating that section. Yeah, I get that. And I actually kind of enjoyed the fact that

[01:09:03] this whole time that we've been talking about Egypt, that it was, it was a reminder that God is not always right. You know, because the prophecy is very... Lose tenuous as far as the

[01:09:15] being fulfilled. So it's not, it's not holding up the truth or it's not holding up what was said in the Bible as to what actually transpired. Yeah. It didn't hold water with actual history.

[01:09:30] Not that we need to prove through the Bible that the Bible is wrong. But it doesn't hurt when you're talking to somebody that's Christian to say, look man, you're Bible, like literally

[01:09:39] your Bible is wrong. Yeah. I can point to you four chapters in your Bible in a book that you actually were veer as equal because as equal as very prominent in the New Testament,

[01:09:51] I can point to four chapters in that book that are absolutely fucking wrong. And they would be like, no, no, that's not in there. Even that it you're reading it wrong, you read it out of the

[01:10:02] chart. You don't know. No, and you can explain it to them any number of ways and they're still going to say you're reading it wrong. But this is why I know they had... Like I understand at that point

[01:10:11] they haven't actually read the Bible for themselves. They haven't set down to try to understand it with any bit of intellect for them, like any bit of understanding or self teaching. It's all been

[01:10:25] pumped down their throats from their pastor or whoever the internet at this point. Like a lot of the people I talk to now are very much secluded in their own little bubbles with these online

[01:10:39] pastors and the thing never get to interact with. And the only thing that these pastors are sharing are sound bites about hell and you know, transphobia and just hate messages, right? But it's intermingled with messages from the Bible and they teach the Bible, but they teach the Bible

[01:11:00] in their own very specific way. And these people don't actually know what they're learning because they don't bother to read it for themselves. They don't bother to try to understand it for

[01:11:10] themselves. And that's what bothers me about the ignorance that is inherent in a lot of the right wing Christianity. That being said, this was a Zikil chapter 32. Sure, it's the quest which means that we will be acting tomorrow with Zikil chapter 33. All right, we'll see you then.

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[01:12:32] mit Vellege Erblinno erfahren? Ruf erkostenfrei an und da 0800, 24, 24, 008. Was denn? Du bist in a hotel, in a hotel. We just finished earlier today. We finished with as a heel chapter 32. Sure, it's fucked up. In that chapter we talked about a lot of dicks.

[01:12:58] We did! It was a sausage fast. Right, so apparently the uncircumcised lots of uncircumcised foreigners and non-Fourners and people got doesn't like very much. They're all going to be lying in a pit, that may or may not be hell. We're not really sure,

[01:13:16] but they're all going to have uncircumcised dicks. Do you think their dicks will touch? I mean, if it's a pit, probably some of them will. Yeah, I would imagine that would be the case.

[01:13:25] But I don't have any way of knowing this for sure. You know what I think is great? Was that? There's no ladies in the pit. Yeah! But it was also the conclusion.

[01:13:35] It's a good day to be a girl. We get raped all the other days, but on this day, all the dudes got killed and thrown into a pit. Yeah. The other part of that was that this was the last chapter

[01:13:48] where we were discussing egypt downfall at the hand of God for, I don't know, for existing. I'm not really sure exactly. For being big. Yeah. And for not following me, just to help. On a whammy's like, you know, I'm going to kill egypt. That's that.

[01:14:05] She won't, well, I'm out here killing all these nations. I'm going to take some egypt down with me. Right. Right. So, which didn't happen? That was a Z-Kiel chapter 32. Yes it was. Which means that today we're giving in to. Z-Kiel chapter 33. All right. Let's do this. Okay, dokey.

[01:14:20] All right. We are hopping into easy Kyle chapter 33 and don't you was Z-Kiel me? Or Z-Kiel. No! I did. See, I did it. Goddamn it. Don't tell me not to Z-Kiel. I'm going to Z-Kiel all fucking day. That sounds so dirty. I might be into it.

[01:14:43] All right. Chapter 33 ready? I'm ready. The word of the Lord. This is a did. Is it vampire? The word is a vampire. No, the word of the Lord came to me. Okay.

[01:14:59] Son of man. Yeah. Mirror human. You have fucking worm. Speak to your people and say to them when I bring the sword against the land and the people of the land choose one of their men

[01:15:10] and make him their watch man. And he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not heed the warning and

[01:15:21] the sword comes and takes their life their blood will be on their own head. So if they choose to fight, they're allowed to live as long as they run away. Well, he's saying Obey Me,

[01:15:33] Eros. If you don't then whatever punishment comes is your own fucking fault. Right, but they say he specifically tell him to put a watchman up and then when they're coming to kill them,

[01:15:42] he's going to blow the horn and if they don't run away their death is on them apparently. Yeah, something like that. Okay. All right. Since they heard the sound of the trumpet but did

[01:15:51] not heed the warning their blood will be on their own head. If they had heeded the morning, they would have saved themselves. That's why I'm sorry. This sounds like a lot of justification for murder.

[01:16:01] Mm-hmm. Like you're trying to justify murdering people, God. Yeah. You need to stop trying to justify murder in any way whatsoever. If you're murdering them, you're just fucking murdering. Yeah. Don't be like, I hit you but you had it coming.

[01:16:15] Like that's called. You're either responsible for murdering people or you're not. Yeah. If you're not responsible for it then you didn't command it but if you commanded it then you murdered them. And don't worry about it. Like you don't need to. It's your own fault.

[01:16:28] Yeah, we don't need fucking excuses. Why? Why is it God making excuses? It's man making excuses. Of course I know. I know what it is but bullshit. But yeah, if the watchman sees the sword coming

[01:16:40] and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone's life, that person's life will be taken because of their sin but I will hold the watchman accountable for

[01:16:51] their blood. Well, they're all dead. Well, you mean like as far as like their punishment after life or whatever. Yeah. So as long as like like hey dude, we're going to put you up and watch

[01:17:04] and as long as you don't blow the horn only you're going to go to hell, man. Yeah. Just don't blow the fucking horn okay? And then none of the rest of us have to go to hell. Right. We

[01:17:12] what happens if that whatever. I don't fucking care. This is this is stupid. Well he's also saying it's kind of an analogy kind of thing because he's also saying false prophets right?

[01:17:25] If the people are led by a false prophet, then yeah they're still going to die because they did bad but it wasn't their fault so I'm not going to punish them in the afterlife. Because

[01:17:36] the first and then tell them the correct message. Right. So that's more what he's getting at. So as long as you didn't receive the right message, this is a justification as to why people are

[01:17:45] okay with other people believing in different gods, right? Especially ones that haven't been able to quote unquote here the message of God. Right. They get good news. They get good news. So this would be

[01:17:54] a justification for that I guess. You're still going to die. Right. You just won't burn and how God go. You don't get to go to heaven. Right. What do you go then? It's probably like purgatory, right?

[01:18:05] Questions? At least if you're if you're Catholic anyway. If you're Catholic yes but Protestants don't believe in purgatory. Right. I mean I don't believe in any of it so I don't really know what the answer

[01:18:14] is there. The answer is that you end up in the goddamn ground and your dead and that's that. That unless you get cremated, then you're not in the ground. You're still probably in up in the

[01:18:26] ground eventually. I mean your ashes might get scattered over the ocean. Right. That's not the ground. The probably wash up on the shore though and then there you know okay you're going to fall.

[01:18:38] Son of man. Yeah. You're human. You have fucking worm. I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel. So he's tough. He's a zikil. He's like you're a fucking watchman now okay?

[01:18:50] So here the word I speak and give them warning from me. When I say to the wicked you wicked person you will surely die if you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways that wicked person will

[01:19:03] die for their sin and I will hold you zikil accountable for their blood. This is why people knock on your fucking door. Yeah. This is bullshit. Yeah. But you know what? I'm like been told. I call

[01:19:15] bullshit here. So he's the trumpeter, right? He's the one announcing shit's going to be coming down the pike whatever. Right. And his work we're supposed to take the word of this guy who sees

[01:19:27] a thousand eyeballs in an angely, wield crazy thing in the sky and who was willing to lie on his side for a year and a half to prove point. Like he's just not quite all there I would imagine.

[01:19:41] You know, he doesn't seem like he's got his you know faculties altogether. Yeah. And yet we're supposed to believe him about what God says instead of God just telling us, we're supposed to

[01:19:50] believe this dude and if we don't believe him then it's on us and we're fucked. Yeah. And if he doesn't tell us he's fucked but he's going to tell us because obviously he does tell us so.

[01:19:59] But yeah. If you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin though. You yourself will be saved. How many people do you have to tell?

[01:20:12] And I think we've talked about this before. Like what if I only told like 99 of the 100 people, right? Am I still fucked because the 100th person didn't read the poster and like do I have to go

[01:20:25] up to their face or can I send them a letter? Can I fax it? Can I email? Yeah. Like what is telling them? Like can I just put up like a bulletin board? Yeah. I would definitely if I was a

[01:20:37] ZK I would ask for some clarification. I need clear instructions because I cover my ass. Right? I don't want to get in trouble later. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Son of man. Yeah. Mirror human.

[01:20:49] Yeah. Fuckin worm. See to the Israelites, this is what you are saying. Our offenses and sins weigh us down and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? So they're basically like

[01:21:04] we suck so much that we're sucking. That's not there. Say to them says God, two is he killed and he's he killed saying that God told him. Sure. As surely as I live,

[01:21:16] declare as the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways. Why will you die people of

[01:21:29] fucking Israel? Why will you die? What a fucked up statement. Why are you making me hit you? Why are you making me kill you? Stop making me punch you in the gut. Yeah. Stop. That is the words of an abuser.

[01:21:44] Right. Like literally men who say these things to women and less often women who say these things to men, but it does happen. Abusers who say these words, these words get used in court to prove that they are abusive. Right. As part of their their their. But apparently

[01:22:06] Christians use these words to prove that there's a God. So this is disgusting though. Like literally this is abuse. Yeah. No, I know. Stop making me hit you. Why won't you make me stop hitting you?

[01:22:17] Right. I mean, we do this to our kids like when we're joking around and we take their hands because they're weak and we're like why you hit yourself? Why are you hitting yourself? Why

[01:22:25] you hit yourself? And that's funny because you're just teasing them and they laugh because they're like, I can't control my hands and you're making me hit myself. But this is not that. This is

[01:22:36] not fun. Right. No. No. Not fun. Therefore, son of man. You're mere human. You're fucking worm. Sady or people. If someone who is righteous, oh, disobeyes that person's former righteousness will count for nothing. Wow. So you could be good all your life but then like right before your

[01:22:56] death bed, you fucking all up by and then you're fucked. Yeah. And then you're fucked. But you could be bad. You're in tire life and then right before your death bed, you'd be good. You're like

[01:23:03] just kidding. Just kidding. Sorry. But like the predominance of bad would have happened with the person that got saved versus the person that died. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like that makes

[01:23:12] literally no sense. It doesn't. Like your soul should be weighed. There should be some kind of scale. Yeah. And the Egyptians actually did that. Yeah. I thought that that's a much better method.

[01:23:21] Yeah. If you're going to have a way to judge people, it should be a, you know, an out of salvation of your entire life. Right? It shouldn't be just like this one act that you do where

[01:23:31] this jealous God who can't stand it if you don't like him says fuck you because you didn't say I didn't like you. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't get them. You're knees off

[01:23:40] and enough for me. Yeah. Right. Yeah. No, I really like the scales because then it's like a case-by-case basis and you know God's infinite so he got the time and you know you kind of get an idea

[01:23:54] of but was I basically a good person? And I think that intentions matter. I think that that should count for something. I think some of that like based on our reading and like the Jewish

[01:24:03] folklore book that we do some of that philosophy filtered into some Jewish culture. Yeah. But it's it's not, it's not over. Right. Or it is, no, it's not over. Right. Right. And if someone who is wicked

[01:24:18] repents that person's former wickedness will not bring condemnation. Mm-hmm. So that's what you just said. Right. No, I exactly what I just said. Bullshit. Yep. The righteous person who sins will not be allowed to live even though they were formerly righteous. It's, whatever. Whatever. That's a bullshit

[01:24:37] deal and I don't take that deal. Thank you. My past nose goes, I'm out. You're saying you're basically saying that if a person is the worst human being rapist fucking just whatever. Pedophile can go on. He's an entire life and then right before he dies he says,

[01:24:55] I bow before you God and I resend all of the bad things and I worship you and I, and you know whatever. Then he's good. But the person that was good, their entire life

[01:25:06] gets to the end and masturbates, but doesn't like wash his hands for 14 days or something like that. And then he's fucked and he can't get into heaven. Yeah. I mean like there's just the,

[01:25:17] the laws that are in place, these things are things that could happen apparently. Like because this is all God laws and it's all bullshit. It's nonsense. Jesus hasn't happened yet. We haven't

[01:25:26] forgotten about the shrimp and the fucking mixed threads and all that stuff. I was going to say, let's not even forget if you cut your hair or you get a tattoo or

[01:25:36] heaven forbid that you drink blood or you fuck your wife or she's on her period. Right? Like, oh no, sorry, you're going to hell. Wait, what? Yeah. No, it's crazy. This is ridiculous.

[01:25:47] Ridiculous. It is. If I tell a righteous person that they will surely live, but then they trust in their righteousness and do evil none of the righteous thing that person has done will be remembered

[01:25:59] and they will die for the evil they have done. We get it. You're, you're an asshole guy. Yeah, you're, you're unfair. You're hard handed and hard-hearted. Right. You're a son of a bitch, really.

[01:26:12] And if I say to a wicked person, you will surely die. But then they turn away from their sin and do what is just in right? If they give back what they took in pledge for alone, return

[01:26:23] what they have stolen, follow the decrees that give life and do no evil. That person will surely live. They will not die. They will not die. A little better statement. If they turn away

[01:26:33] the boy and he's saying that they have to make a man to the things that they have done. So it's not just lip service. They have to actually physically go through motions of repentance. That's a little

[01:26:44] better. I'm not going to give it this. How do you any unrap a child? No, I'm not, I'm just saying that's what I'm saying. I don't know that that's something that you can come back for,

[01:26:53] though, because you can't, how could you, how could you make a man's for that? Right. Like there is no making a man's for that. So you're kind of fucked at that point. It depending on your

[01:27:00] philosophy on the whole situation. Right. So I mean, I could see where that could still be a thing where that person would be in this religion would be punished for that thing because they can't

[01:27:10] make a man's for that thing. Right. That, that would make some sense to me. But the way they were saying that before this didn't, didn't track white. Well, yeah, that helps clarify a little bit.

[01:27:22] A little bit, not totally. Not totally. None of the sins that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just in right. They will surely live. Yet

[01:27:33] your people say the way of the Lord is not just, yeah, that is what I say. Thank you. I do. But it is their way that is not just a don't call me mean. Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

[01:27:47] If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, they will die for it. And if a wicked person turns away from their wickedness and does what is just in right,

[01:27:57] they will live by doing so. That's great. Yet you is real light say the way of the Lord is not just. But I will judge each of you according to your own ways. But if you like your not though,

[01:28:07] right. And I like your not. I often, I often, I often why I do wonder what they mean by die and live here because we, this is one of those things that is a constant theme with the contradictions.

[01:28:17] Mm-hmm. Is that oftentimes God says I don't kill the wicked. They get their, they get their punishment in the afterlife or whatever. And I do kill the righteous because it's just what the plan was.

[01:28:28] That was part of the thing that was going to happen or whatever. So like bad shit happens, right? But these things are, they go back and forth. Like if you, but when they want you to believe,

[01:28:39] that God is good, he's like, if you follow rules and I will do good stuff. If you fall, if you don't follow the rules, you get the bad stuff. Right? Yeah. And then if he's like trying to be a

[01:28:51] scary fuck, he's like, I will kill you all. None of you are good. You all suck your human. By eye, I mean Babylon. Babylon. Right. All right. All right. So now we are moving on to a new section.

[01:29:04] Okay. Okay. All right. In the 12th year of our exile, in the 10th month on the fifth day, a man who with escaped from Jerusalem came to me. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

[01:29:18] Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. Remember that was like one of those four told things several chapters ago?

[01:29:25] Oh. And I was like, that's a thing that's coming up. Right. Yeah. Okay. So this is that coming to pass. Let's be sure. But let me look up this day. Yes, really quickly here. Problems.

[01:29:36] Scrolls. Scrolls. Scrolls. All right. So this day, it depends. Okay. It, it, we're going with the 12th year as it says. Yeah. The date corresponds to January 8th, 585 BCE, but that would mean that

[01:29:54] news of the fall of Jerusalem didn't reach a Zeekeel in Babylon until well over a year after the calamity happened. Yeah. And an alternative translation reading in the 11th year instead of the 12th year is preferable because that means that only about six months would have been the

[01:30:13] intervals. So these are like, alternative facts, but Bible version will it depends on what translations you read? No. I got it. But it feels like the translation was made to fit the the circumstances

[01:30:24] as opposed to the circumstances fitting the threat to the text. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that sounds like they were like, wait, this doesn't work. Exactly. Like somebody can't

[01:30:35] add and it was me. Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying. All right. So anyways, whatever year it was, while we were in exile, a man who had escaped from Jerusalem came to me and said, the city is falling.

[01:30:51] Now, the easy me for the man arrived. The hand of the Lord was on me a Zeekeel. Okay. And guess what? He spoke to him. He opened my mouth. Okay. Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

[01:31:05] That's not God's already showed his Zeekeel as Dix. I don't know. There's one of the says that I just wanted to pause there for a minute just to let you imagine he opened my mouth. Right. Yeah.

[01:31:16] And before the man came to me in the morning, he opened my mouth. Okay. Okay. So my mouth was opened. Oh, and I was no longer silent. Remember, he like did all of these profit

[01:31:29] prophecies and is like, shit is coming down the pike. Jerusalem's going to get fucked. And then all the people were like, that's so rude and wrong. Whatever dude. And then he was like,

[01:31:40] I'm sorry. I just delivered the message. That's what I do. And then he like couldn't speak for here. Oh, that was part of that whole. The piece of the way thing. So I got going back to that part where

[01:31:49] he was like, yes, lying on the ground. Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. That. So now his mouth is open because Jerusalem is falling and the dude came just like he said, what happened? Right.

[01:32:01] Got it. So then the word of the Lord came to me and I'm like, God, it feels like you've been talking this whole fucking time as a real son of man. Yeah, mere human. Yeah, fucking worm.

[01:32:11] The people living in those ruins in the land of Israel are saying Abraham was only one man. Yet he possessed the land. But we are many. Surely the land has been given to us as our possession.

[01:32:25] I don't understand what that has to do with anything. There are people who have survived and they're like, this is our land and fuck that lawn and we're going to get it. Right. No, I get it.

[01:32:36] But I mean, obviously, they just, you know, destroyed you. So yeah. But they still want that land. It's still theirs. They're like, God gave that to us. We don't fucking care that we're getting

[01:32:46] I mean, I just to some degree I understand that. You know, like maybe I wouldn't want to be forced out of where I live either. No, me neither. So but God does not like this, okay? Okay.

[01:32:56] Therefore say to them, this is what the sovereign Lord says, since you eat meat with the blood still in it and look to your idols and shed blood, should you then possess the land?

[01:33:09] So this is a guilt trip for doing the things that were just done at those times. Yeah, but I don't worship it because it was we talked about this. It seems like it was pretty commonplace with the art to their neighbors and just like different cultures that

[01:33:24] were all kind of intermingling at that point in time. So yeah. And I feel like the the priests were kind of more of this like higher stature that was like above the rest of the people that

[01:33:36] didn't really have any, they there was no intermingling between those groups of people. Right. They were different, they were different sets of kind of like Republican leadership versus people like my parents and just commoners. Yeah. Common Republicans that don't yeah, it was like there's no

[01:33:57] sure it was a classist system. Yeah. So yeah, you rely on your, this is God talking some more still to the the guys that are like, but we want to land. Right. You rely on your sword. You do

[01:34:10] to test about things and each of you defiles his neighbor's wife. Wow. Everything you're on every single one of you is fucking your neighbor's wife. Fucking, uh, fucking around. And I'm like, I'm like every single one. So did they just like be like, okay, every night,

[01:34:30] turn clockwise. That's how you're fucking with tonight. And then, you know, we'll just go every night do the next help over. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a back to the start. Music, a wife, right? Yeah.

[01:34:41] Yeah. And he has a lot of nerve though, but saying that they value their swords more than whatever when he's the one literally using the sword against them. I know. He's like, that was a great

[01:34:51] old kill you by the sword. Fuck your swords. What? God. Pick a lame. Right. Should you then possess the land you wifey wife fuckers? I'm sure your answer is no. So say this to them. Says God.

[01:35:04] Okay. Say this. Ready? Yeah. I'm ready. This is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. And surely as I live, those who are left in the ruins will fall by the sword. Those out in the

[01:35:14] country, I will give to the wild animals to be devoured and those in strongholds and caves will die of a plague. Wow. Yeah. So rude. Yeah. I will make the land a desolate waste because that's

[01:35:28] the kind of thing I like to do is, you know, ruin it for the animals too. Yeah. Yeah. Was it? Do you remember when we were reading Jeremiah there was a there was a there was a

[01:35:36] remnant left in Jerusalem and at first before that one dude that was I figured what his name was, but he came he was staying with some other tribe and he came in and then killed everybody

[01:35:47] if I'd dinner. You remember when I'm talking about? Yeah. So before that, though God was okay with there being a remnant left in Jerusalem and then that happened and he's like, no, it's all off

[01:35:58] by Cia. Yeah. But there wasn't an official end until it just couldn't sit still and, you know, not kill people. Right. I don't know. Oh God. But I feel like this wasn't like a definite like

[01:36:12] that was the end. You just what it is, what it is. You always just a dick. I mean yeah, pretty much. I will make the land a desolate waste and her proud strength will come to an end

[01:36:25] and the mountains of Israel will become so desolate that no one will cross them then they will know that he's the Lord. That I am the Lord. Yeah. When I have made the land a desolate

[01:36:37] waste because of all the detestable things they have done. So let me get this straight. People are going to walk by a desolate land and be like, wow, check that God out. Yeah. That is

[01:36:50] some piece of shit land I am so impressed. I don't think that's how that works. I think that walk by and be like, surely no God dwells here. Look at this land. Right. There is no God.

[01:37:02] Yeah. If there was a God here he would surely have blessed these people in this land. Right. I mean if I was looking at what that God did to those people, I am good with our God. You? Yeah. You?

[01:37:12] Okay. Okay. Let's keep our God. Let's keep my sons. That fucker. Look at that shit. Mm-hmm. That's fucked up. As for you, Sonaman. Yeah. You're your human. You're fucking worm. Your people are talking together about you by the walls and at the doors of the houses saying

[01:37:29] do each other, coming here the message that is come from the Lord. My people come to you as they usually do and sit before you to hear your words but they do not put them into practice. There are mouths

[01:37:41] speak of love but their hearts are greedy for unjust gain. I like I like that phrase. Yeah. There mouths speak of love but their hearts are greedy for unjust gain. Sure. That describes every single pastor I've ever met like in the church. It describes a lot of people.

[01:37:59] Yeah. I mean, I think that there are a lot of people that are not genuine in who they are and what they intend. Yeah. Yeah. I think that is a good way to describe human nature

[01:38:09] yeah. On it had its worst sense. You know? People are kind of too face sometimes and they don't say what they mean. They don't do what they mean. They don't do what they say. They should be autistic

[01:38:22] like me and then they wouldn't know the difference and they would always just say what they mean. And then come to regret it later and be like, well I've learned since then but I meant what I said

[01:38:31] when I said it even though I don't feel that way anymore. I will say, since I have known you, I feel like I've had to become a, I don't know if I would say a better person but I'm more

[01:38:42] upfront and honest person. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not saying that I was just so grateful for you. You were never to see it, but like when we first got together and

[01:38:53] like you would make me a promise and like I literally did not understand if you broke the promise like you didn't take it as literally as I did. Right. And like it would break my heart because

[01:39:05] I'll be like, but you promised and you'd be like the fuck is wrong with you. Like nobody takes promises like that and I'm like, right. No but what you did? Yeah. So yeah, I had to rethink how I

[01:39:18] said things, how I thought of things, how I actually how I interact with people in general because it affects you differently than other people as to like there's there's these general niceities that people do that are just kind of white lies. You know, they make promises. They say

[01:39:36] things that they don't necessarily intend or mean and there's no real harm meant by it. Yeah. You know what? Let me let me interrupt you just for a minute to clarify like I don't want anybody out there thinking that I'm accusing you of making like heinous,

[01:39:51] oh no. And when I said broken promises, they were stupid shit like, um, hey, don't stop and smoke on your way home because you're trying to quit or whatever. Right. And

[01:40:03] then you would and you wouldn't tell me and then I would ask you and you would be like yeah, I did and I would be like, but you promised and then you didn't tell me after you promised

[01:40:11] and you'd be like, what's the deal? Right. And like that's the kind of thing. And it's not the smoking or the not smoking or whatever. It was literally the words that you said to me in the exact

[01:40:23] mess. Yeah. Yeah. And like I you you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're requires exactness and you require. Um, black and white, it's black and white thinking

[01:40:34] and I have that. Yeah, but not in the way not not because you're dumb or not because you're like not able to understand things just how you're brain initially interprets information that is given. It's not just information though. It's also relationships. Sure. Like no, we love each other.

[01:40:52] So I take you at your word because we love each other. Right. And that was like more responsibilities than you realized you were taking on and you were like hold on. I didn't know all

[01:41:03] these words were in there. Right. So, but I mean we've had to learn each other. Yeah. No, I mean that's a part of any relationship. Yeah. I just I didn't want anybody out there thinking

[01:41:11] like they you like did something seriously. I think it is or whatever. No, it was like dumb shit. Yeah. But promises. Right. Right. Yeah. So was that? Oh yeah. And no. No. Sorry. We have a couple more

[01:41:22] sentences here. Okay. And also I have to say something when I said people should be autistic like me, I was absolutely not trying to be ableist or use terms incorrectly. Like I am currently

[01:41:33] being assessed for autism and all the doctors and all my family and friends pretty much agree that I'm like 100% on the spectrum. So so just putting that out there don't want anybody to

[01:41:45] think that I'm like, no. I got you. Okay. Indeed to them you are nothing more than one who sings love songs with a beautiful voice and plays an instrument well for they hear your words

[01:41:58] but do not put them into practice. What do you like that? Yeah. You're seeing a good song. The end of that chapter was actually kind of kind of good phraseings. When all this comes true

[01:42:08] when it surely will then they will know that a prophet has been among them the end. Okay. That's what they'll know. Got it. Just I know that a prophet's been among them,

[01:42:19] not that I am the Lord. Well, I think the the mere fact that they recognize he's a prophet is saying that they didn't believe that God would have the things that he told him. Right. Right. Yeah. So that's

[01:42:32] kind of where that was going with that I guess. Yeah. But you know we've already talked about how as he killed slash god got Egypt wrong and I don't really I also feel like a lot of this

[01:42:46] stuff and I don't know how much this is true or how much isn't true but or back dated or whatever. Right. Well, that's what I'm saying. I think there there probably have been some edits. We just

[01:42:55] talked about one in this chapter actually as far as the timeframes right? Yeah. Was it year or was it six months? Right. So we just got done talking about exactness. The exactness of the Bible is very up

[01:43:07] it's very questionable and that makes it so difficult for somebody like me to try to understand it because I want to know what happened. Sure. I can't have a good opinion about it unless I know

[01:43:16] what happened. And I honestly feel like if you're talking about a god, right? And god who determines your entire eternal livelihood I guess. Right. If you're talking about something that important

[01:43:29] you should be able to be very exact if you're a prophet. Yeah. You should be able to tell me exactly why I should believe in this fucking god. Right. Like I'm not talking to the god. I'm talking

[01:43:40] to a human. You're a human dude. And right now we're not even talking to humans. We're just reading this book. You are not convincing me, god. Yeah. You are not completely human. You're a human that

[01:43:50] I'm not 100% certain who you were from thousands of years ago. And I don't even know that you were all the words that I'm reading because there's a lot of questions about when and see

[01:44:01] what written. When everything was written then. And you saw eyeballs on wheels. Yeah. I just don't know anything about that. I got lots of questions. Yeah. Lots. Yeah. This book is failing too.

[01:44:12] And then when I don't take your word you just lay on the ground for a year. I mean like what were supposed to do with that, man? So chill. All right. So that was a Zeciel chapter 33. Sure

[01:44:23] is buckless. Which means that we will be back tomorrow with. Zeciel chapter 34. All right. We'll see you by E. Usman. Wife. Do you remember what happened yesterday? And where the hell we are today?

[01:44:39] Well, yesterday we read Zeciel chapter 33. Sure's stuck in. And in that chapter God was saying how you if you have been a good person your entire life and good with God and the whole nine yards,

[01:44:52] you might be fucked still. Yeah. If you're like bad at the last month. Yeah. Yeah. You still won't get into heaven or whatever the fuck it is that you're going to get into it back in the old

[01:45:03] testament. I don't know. And then if you're bad your whole life, as long as you redeem yourself at the end, you're good to go. No, it's not just lip service though. No, I don't know. You do actual action.

[01:45:13] That's according based on what we read. Yes. Yes. But it just the whole concept seems kind of bullshity. I have to agree with. And we talked about a little bit how we like the way of one's life.

[01:45:25] You know, like the Egyptians did. Yeah. Yeah. That was a little bit of a way of the soul. It's kind of like that's a little bit more realistic and fair. You know just what is same on the grand scheme of things.

[01:45:36] You know I agree. So anyway, that was a Zeciel chapter 33. Yes it was. Which means that today we're getting into a Zeciel chapter 34. All right. Let's do this. Okay. Don't be.

[01:45:53] All right. We are jumping into easy Kyle chapter 34 as I like to say a Zeciel to make sure everybody knows what we're reading because you're a buzzcale and no notes here we go ready. I'm ready. Okay.

[01:46:08] The word of the Lord came to me. Did it now? It sure is. It's easy. It came to a Zeciel. Yeah. Son of man. Yeah. Me or human. You have fucking worm. Prophecy against the Shepherds of Israel.

[01:46:20] Prophecy and say to them, this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay. Whoa. Whoa. To you Shepherds of Israel who only take care of yourselves would not Shepherds take care of the They wouldn't really be shepherds if they didn't. Did they? Whoa. Yeah. He's referring to the

[01:46:41] leadership. No I got taking care of the people properly. Right. Yeah. You eat the Kurds, close yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals but you do not take care of the

[01:46:51] flock. It's interesting that they brought that up because early on in the Bible. I don't know if you recall this but we talked a lot about the rituals that they had in place where they would

[01:47:02] sacrifice animals and the priests and the higher-ups would have that food for them essentially. Yeah. Like it was for God quote unquote but the families and the people that were higher up like

[01:47:13] the priests and shit they were the ones who actually got to eat it. Yes. So it was kind of the beginning of like them taking the best stuff from the people that were poor. Please listen to

[01:47:26] the people. Yeah. No absolutely. And here's what the leaders like that shit's going wrong. Yeah. I mean it's kind of cool that they're calling it out like you know they're admitting yeah this

[01:47:38] is a bad thing. So obviously there was like completely people like this is not a good thing. So that's cool. There was some clear clash clashing of classes. Yes for sure. Yeah.

[01:47:51] You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally so they were scattered because there was no shepherd and when they were scattered they became

[01:48:09] food for all the wild animals. My sheep wandered over all of the mountains and on every high hill they were scattered over the whole earth and no one searched or looked for them. That's so sad.

[01:48:23] Well you didn't even want the scatters in though? Shit scattered. I mean you know like it's what he talked to us what we've been talking about right since Jeremiah he's going to

[01:48:32] scatter them all over the fucking world. Yeah but this is like one at a time not like the whole population. I guess I guess I mean I don't know you know we this could be referring to the scattering of his

[01:48:41] entire tribe. Yeah that's true that is true it just makes me think of um little boapyp as lost or sheep. Yeah yeah and the movie um toy land toy land. Okay I couldn't get it at first

[01:48:56] that I was like toy story no that's Pixar. Right toy land when my favorite Christmas movies have it so much. Yeah that's good. Okay anyway therefore are you shepherd's here the word of the Lord.

[01:49:09] Okay all right. As surely as I live to clears the sovereign Lord. She's in question because my flock of hex a shepherd and so has been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals

[01:49:23] and because my shepherds did not search for my flock but cared for themselves rather than for my flock therefore they're going to die. You have fucking shepherds here the word of the Lord. Okay

[01:49:36] this is what sovereign Lord says. I thought he was he just told us he was saying this shit. He's like like listen listen listen I'm telling you some stuff listen now I'm telling you more stuff. Okay

[01:49:45] okay I'm about to tell you listen. You really want to make sure that they know he's talking. Mm-hmm. I mean the through is he heal. I God says as he heal. Yeah and against the shepherds.

[01:49:56] No and we'll hold them accountable for my flock. I will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves. Mm-hmm man you got to starve everybody. Right

[01:50:09] great. That sounds that sounds cool. If you're gonna if you're gonna do something horrible to somebody don't torture them and fucking like you're you're just a mean asshole. Right. You're like

[01:50:20] pulling the legs off of flies. Right and it I don't even like flies and I wouldn't do that. You're very abusive. Yeah this God is very abusive. Abusive to the point of massacism because he enjoys

[01:50:33] watching them suffer. Right. I God says as he heal. Yeah. We'll rescue my flock from their mouths and it will no longer be food for them. Mm-hmm. For this is what the sovereign Lord says. Okay.

[01:50:47] Yeah. I says I says I say I myself God says as he heal will search for my sheep and look after them. I'm gonna get them against himself. Wouldn't you feel like the person saying that like he's literally

[01:51:00] saying I am God for God right as a prophecy to these people chastizing them and in berating them. Yeah. Wouldn't you feel like that fucker is like a little bit? Up in he? Yeah. Like whoopsed the

[01:51:12] fucks my good stuff. Yeah but why should just shut up man? Well that and I'm like why the Lord got to look for his fucking sheep eat on nowhere they be? Well we know from early on. You know so they

[01:51:23] you're not not track people down very well. He does not have a good GPS even when there's only like two people around he said some he has some issues. Yeah so yeah he is not any better than

[01:51:33] these shepherds at keeping up with his flock. Right as a shepherd look at looks after his scattered flock when he has with them so will I look after my sheep you know if I could find them.

[01:51:46] Right. Oh I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness. I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries and I will

[01:52:01] bring them into their own land. I will pastor them on the mountains. That's a pastor right? Good glass of milk. I will pastor them on the mountains of Israel in the ravines and in all

[01:52:16] the settlements in the land. One would think if he was his power for if God is his powerful as everybody and God claims that he is, that he could have prevented those people from being scattered in the

[01:52:26] first place. And you would think that if these people were being evil he could have rectified that earlier on before he they fucked up. Right. But no he just let them be empowered right? Like this

[01:52:37] this is the part where he's like I will punish those who are evil but but not like right away or anything. You know whatever it happens it happens but I'll punish them for sure. You know what reminds me of

[01:52:48] it's like okay when I was a kid sometimes my mom would be in the middle of something and I was trying to get her attention and I would be like mom mom mom mom mom mom mom hey mom hey mom

[01:53:01] and then I would like start calling her by her first name. Yeah to try and get her attention you know yeah. And so I would get like silence and then all of a sudden she would turn around and go

[01:53:13] what? Yeah. And so it went from zero to 150 in no time flat right and that is what God's doing. Yeah. Like he ignores them for centuries doesn't answer, doesn't hardly talk to them, doesn't

[01:53:30] do very much with them at all. And then all of a sudden he turns around and just snaps at them and he's like you're dead and you're dead and you're dead and fuck all of you too. But again

[01:53:40] we're we're taking the word of a prophet who is just saying that the things that are happening in the world are caused by a God. Right this actually has nothing to do with a God. No I know that.

[01:53:51] Right. No I'm just saying like that's it's crazy people essentially. Yes. I mean I was speaking as if in canon you know what I mean? Yeah. In canon this god that is being described here

[01:54:06] is a lot like my mom used to be when I was here. No I got you this character. I guess. Like literary analysis you know? Yeah. This character is flawed deeply. Right. Such a bad God.

[01:54:17] Yeah. But yeah, I mean coming outside of the good book. Yeah. Of course there's no God. Right. No I know you know that. I just was trying to say that like I'm trying to put it in perspective

[01:54:29] because it's one thing to say that this god can't track people down and they can't you know punish the right people and all that but that's not really what's happening anyway. Right. There's just politics going on and war going on and these prophets are commenting on it

[01:54:46] from their perspective. Right. And their perspective is that they want people to probably come to their church or whatever the fuck it is back then. They're their group either. They want people to listen to them. And so if they can be correct in their quote unquote prophecies

[01:55:01] they're going to gain followers which gains them influence. Right. And then it is a snake eating its own tail. Right. Right. I will tend them in a good pasture and the mountain heights of Israel will be their grazing land there. They will lie down in good grazing land

[01:55:22] and there they will feed in a rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. That sounds so nice. Yeah. I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down to clears the sovereign Lord.

[01:55:38] I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak but the sleek and the strong I will destroy. Because fuck you. All right. I will

[01:55:53] shepherd the flock with justice. But you let them lose your sheep first and scapula. I got to go find them guys and then I'll take good care of you. You didn't pay attention while they were

[01:56:03] doing it. You waited till they did it. Right. And then you got mad. Yeah. Okay. All right. That is correct. Yep. As for you my flock this is what Saurinor says. Okay. I God says this is you. Right. Yeah.

[01:56:20] Well judge between one sheep and another and between rams and goats. So he's saying he's going to take it on a case by case basis but that's not what it sounded like to me. He's like doing whole swaths.

[01:56:32] I mean yeah I don't know. I'm not really sure where he's going with this exactly yet. Well he says he's going to judge between one sheep and another. But is he going to judge them for? Okay. We haven't finished the plot. So I'm just curious.

[01:56:47] Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture? Must you also trample the rest of your pasture with your feet? Is it not enough for you to drink clear water? Must you also

[01:57:02] muddy the rest with your feet? Must my flock feed on what you have trampled and drink what you have mudied with your feet? So he's saying like not only are yall sinning but on top of that

[01:57:16] you're leading these other fuckers into sin as well. Right. Right. And so like you're not just in trouble since your leadership you're not just in trouble for what you are actually doing your own sacrifices and idol worship and whatever sex depraved things that you're doing or

[01:57:34] whatever. Right. Not only are you in trouble for that but because you are a leader and you let those people to do it too. Now you're in trouble big time. Got it. I think that's what this is.

[01:57:45] Okay. All right. Getting at like you're you're not just drinking the water. I thought I thought maybe he was judging the actual flock because that's kind of what he was talking about and saying that

[01:57:55] if you are not if I'm saving you and you're not rectifying your ways then you're still might be fucked. Like that's that's where I thought he was going with that. Well he's saying that

[01:58:07] you're drinking the good water. Yeah. And then on top of that not only did you get something good for yourself but then you dirty it for everybody else and he this whole chapter is addressed

[01:58:21] to the shepherds. Got it. So that's okay. What is getting at like he's I thought I just thought he was talking to the flock here. That's all. Mm-hmm. No he's talking about his flock but to the

[01:58:35] shepherds he's like you shepherds fucking suck. Okay. Okay. So must my flock feed on what you shepherds have trampled and drink what you have muddied with your feet. Okay. Therefore this is

[01:58:51] what sovereign Lord says to them. Got it. The shepherds. Right. The reason I thought that I guess is because he was going to destroy them. So what does a fucking matter? You're going to destroy them and

[01:58:59] bring them the your people back to feed on the chapter right now. What was it? It was this chapter. Well, this whole chapter he's been saying you fucking shepherds I will destroy you. Right.

[01:59:12] Like the previous chapter yesterday was about the people and he was telling them I'm going to destroy your asses. Right. I'm going to murder you and come everywhere. I'm going to give him

[01:59:22] day who the fuck is destroying. There's so many. Well this chapter is specifically the whole thing based on the notes that I read. The whole thing is addressed to the leadership. Got it. So

[01:59:32] yesterday was the people today is the leadership. And that's why he's talking about them as shepherds because they're the leaders and they're leading the flock and the flock or whatever. Yeah, you're leading them astray. And so he's like I'm going to fuck your shit up.

[01:59:47] Right. You're worse than the fucking people because you know better and you led them to do it. They might not have done it. Right. I'm still going to punish the fuckers. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know

[01:59:57] I'm God and I can and I'm I like pain. Yeah, it seems that way. Yeah. Pain. Therefore this is what the solver and Lord says to them. Okay. See I myself will judge between the fat sheep and the

[02:00:12] lean sheep. Okay. Because some be fat and some be lean. I'm assuming lean is better. Maybe I have no idea because you shove with flank and shoulder, budding all the weak sheep with your horns until

[02:00:28] you have driven them away. I will save my flock and they will no longer be plundered. Okay. Shove with flank and shoulder. You just saying that they're they're the bigger and stronger so they're they're they're getting everybody else out of their way and they're so these are like

[02:00:45] the ramps. Yeah. Because he's talking about their horns. Right. You're pushing them away and taking all the good. Okay. I will save my flock and they will no longer be plundered. Okay. So he's saying you guys are like grifting them and taking advantage of them. Yes. Okay.

[02:01:02] I will judge between one sheep and another. I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David. Okay. Which that's interesting. I don't really know. I mean like we keep coming back to

[02:01:18] this David thing. Right. And like at one point we had David and then David died and then we had, you know, the line of David and then we lost the line of David. Is that a kayak, right?

[02:01:30] I think that's probably somewhere around there. Yeah. Okay. And then now and then we had like zombie David maybe. Okay. Because remember he was going to come back like the Lee was going to read whatever

[02:01:40] the line or something. So is this what he's talking about right now? I don't know. My zombie David servant. Maybe maybe Zee Kills been down in Babylon too long doesn't really know that the line of

[02:01:51] David is gone, you know. Maybe he just doesn't even get the news. He didn't get it. I have no idea. So anyway, I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David and he will tend to them.

[02:02:03] He will tend them and be their shepherd. So this is where Christians talk about Jesus as the shepherd that he was referring to. Yeah, but they're saying David though. And it's interesting because

[02:02:16] in the Old Testament David is the figure. Right? Like David is the Moses. Well, and then later on once we get past the the the Torah, we are we're talking more about the David line. Right? And the

[02:02:30] David is everything. Yeah, he's the guy and it's very interesting because like you said and I don't know this yet specifically but like a lot of the David stuff is interpreted as Jesus.

[02:02:43] Yeah. And it's just not that. That's not what it is. Or pre-Jesus or Jesus is redavoured. Right. Right. I mean the reason that people say that that's the case is because the New Testament had to co-op things from the Old Testament and make them their own. Right?

[02:03:02] And so it did, but it fails to actually pull in like it's not they're not great writers. No. So they're not able with like they should have gone back and edited the Old Testament

[02:03:14] if they were going to do this. Yeah. But but no they left the David shit in. Yeah. And they they're just claiming that that's you know the David line is going to be Jesus,

[02:03:23] which I guess we can fantasize that that is something that might be possible I guess. But it seems really really really really far fetched to me. I feel like they're really really trying

[02:03:36] to stretch it right. And the fact that we don't even say we're just saying David we're not saying the line of David would maybe it's implied right? Sure. But the fact that he says David

[02:03:46] just shows how much influence this character had in the Old Testament. It's really weird to me. Yeah. I mean not weird that he had influence. Weird that the Zecheels like, yeah hey

[02:03:58] God told me that David's going to come take care of the flock. Don't worry about it. Right. I'm sorry what? Yeah. David like that David or like David down the street like my friend David.

[02:04:10] Well and I think it's I think it's really funny how how I learned what I did know before coming into this podcast about the Bible. The Bible to me was just a bunch of like not really coherent stories about various things that happened in those times, right? Those

[02:04:30] times being biblical times any time during but like I didn't know the difference right? Right. Jesus David they could have all happened in the same fucking decade for a line of

[02:04:37] same you know. It didn't make any difference to me when it all happened but they were just a bunch of like kind of bedtime stories that you would hear and I don't mean that they were bedtime stories.

[02:04:48] Yeah there's I'm sure there's a book out there that is exactly that but they were just you know like no was our good yeah yeah that kind of time. Very child like just fairy tale stories

[02:05:00] is how it kind of got dispersed to me right through just social interaction with other people and every hearing right over hearing yeah yeah so I don't know where I was going with that except for that

[02:05:12] it's I don't feel like if there is a coherent message between this line of David and Jesus and I feel like there's a lot of pieces missing like huge fucking missing. I feel like there's

[02:05:26] huge pieces missing between the Torah stuff and the the uh the later yeah the King's the King's history yeah like like it stops being like story time and passing on the name

[02:05:45] right and be gating yeah and then it starts being like okay but now we're talking about the history of David ready go and I was like wait what yeah yeah yeah no it it's it's it's very different

[02:05:58] for sure yeah it's it's not great storytelling. They were I think they were trying I think probably in that time. Kings were trying to make names for themselves and they were co-opting this

[02:06:08] religion to try to bring themselves forward right and so David obviously won out in the end for the most part but like Solomon's up there you know Samuels up there like there's some very

[02:06:19] famous quote unquote Kings not they were Kings but I mean they they used religion to make their name bigger or some of them didn't right yeah some of them actually some of them suck like if you were

[02:06:34] a bad king you're not gonna get as much of a mention and except they did though they didn't have like all the stories and they were like mentioned as and he was so evil and bad and god didn't

[02:06:44] like that one but they still get a mention right but I'm saying that the ones that don't get the like the David not the ones that aren't David and Samuel and and Solomon are ones that had you know

[02:06:57] worse PR teams I guess you know like they they didn't have people creating the right environment around what they were in relation to this religion. Yeah I get what you're saying I just find it interesting because these people took the name the recording of the names

[02:07:17] ancestry yeah very seriously so to me it would have made more sense if they would have left the bad Kings out like Uber and like the King who shall not be named during this rain he was evil

[02:07:34] so we don't talk about him right but I think the failing probably was that they were not exactly story tellers so much as chronologists they were they were chronicle they were chronicle they were chronicle

[02:07:45] what was happening in history and that's essentially what the old testament is once we get past the Torah right where we're just documenting what is happening with regard to their their lives and it's told from a biblical standpoint a religious standpoint but it is it is definitely

[02:08:05] very much a history of these kings and the the the happenings that are happening that are going on with regard to them getting conquered and everything else right and it's just it once we get past the

[02:08:16] initial part of the Bible that we started then it just becomes a history of Israel essentially yeah just I don't know it's like you said it's not what I expected right it's not what I thought it was

[02:08:28] and sometimes it's boring and sometimes it's weird but let me continue yes please okay lie the Lord according to Ezekiel we'll be there God and my servant David will be prints

[02:08:41] among them so he's not that wasn't just a one off yeah he's saying it again yeah either Lord of Spoken okay again not not the line of David but David my servant David my my my dude David

[02:08:53] interested in digging into this yeah the way it's phrase yeah me too late I'm sorry what did you mean by that sir right yeah I need a TARDIS so I can go back and like ask him like wouldn't that be

[02:09:06] amazing you go back and time and ask these people what the fuck are you talking about yeah like when you say David did you actually mean like the David right or did you mean some other David

[02:09:16] yeah because it gets a little confusing later in that history dude and then and then when so you meant the David so wasn't he already dead though right so what did you mean by that yeah yeah what is

[02:09:27] that supposed to oh it was all symbolism and wasn't meant to be taken seriously yeah oh we weren't supposed to read it as though it's exact we were supposed to understand that it's allegory

[02:09:40] and shit oh fail yeah can you include those instructions we're gonna need this for future clarification yeah because um they think that you're talking about David for realsies well they think you're talking about Jesus you don't even know anything about right yeah exactly I God according

[02:09:57] to his E.K. yeah we'll make a covenant of peace with them and read the land of savage beasts so that they may live in the wilderness and sleep in the forest since safety I will make them

[02:10:11] and the places surrounding my hill a blessing I will send down showers in season there will be showers of blessing the trees will yield their fruit and the ground will yield its crop

[02:10:25] the hills are alive with the sound of music right yeah and and I have to comment here too because we just got done talking about Jesus and stuff and the line of David and all that but

[02:10:41] with regard to the prophecies that are happening right now right he's going to make everything peaceful and wonderful and they're going to be grazing in the good hills and all that wonder

[02:10:50] will she right creating the garden of Eden so let's just step into this for a second and assume that we're talking about Jesus right okay and so Jesus was killed by the Romans when he was

[02:11:03] here yeah right things weren't great for the Israelites from what I understand they were conquer at that point they weren't on their own lands right and so at that point in time when when this

[02:11:14] king of this line of David person who is Jesus apparently according to Christians was here on earth things were not as God states here right this is not a completion of that prophecy now I

[02:11:27] I get that a lot of people are like what's the second coming that's gonna matter but he's not he's just like no David's coming over yeah he's not like a sun sun sun sun sun sun of David

[02:11:40] is coming over twice yeah he's coming over and then I'm and then you know I'm gonna have him like die and then he's gonna come again like that's not what he's saying here he's just like David's

[02:11:50] coming over right yeah no if like if we're prophesizing let's prophesize right this is not a prophecy of what actually is even in the Bible from from my standpoint no I agree so like from

[02:12:02] my standpoint if this is a prophecy of Jesus Jesus should have brought the good when he came the first time right but he didn't right exactly and and if he didn't bring it and we're still waiting

[02:12:12] this is a long fucking way it's kind of ridiculous and silly yeah and childish it is it is it is it makes me like look at them like really well and every generation every generation has thought that

[02:12:25] they're kind that this God is coming this is the everything apocalypse it's the end of the world still happening why two k it blows me away every time I hear somebody say that you know the second

[02:12:35] coming like they're gonna be raptured the second coming is coming it's coming this is crazy talk I know it's fucking crazy talk and it's not like if you read this with any bit of just

[02:12:48] curiosity interests if you just question it a little bit right you find the flaws immediately right and I just don't understand how this is something that is so prevalent in our culture

[02:13:01] as to where it actually takes over common sense and and and and ruins things like science and like we're still allowing our religion in this day and age where we have iPhones to tell us that

[02:13:17] this these ideas of thousands of years ago are better than we have come up with them in the meantime right I don't get it I'm like well if you think that's true then why don't you go ahead and get

[02:13:27] rid of your car your phone your microwave sure yeah all of you know we've got there's there's still like we got the on my shot there I don't really know much about their religion and that would be

[02:13:37] anything that would be interesting to find it out in the quickers no the Quakers are not that way that's okay German Baptist are somewhat that way okay but yeah it's mostly the

[02:13:49] on my side the German Baptist I can't remember I think there are some other groups but the Quakers are definitely not one of them so that's a common misconception well that is what I'm

[02:13:59] here actually went to a Quaker Church for like a week so I mom was trying to introduce us to different churches and religions yeah so you went for a week so now you are in the know

[02:14:10] I know enough to know that they are not that that's fine I'm not saying I was in the know I'm teasing you you're just the way you said it was like I went for a week so why I wanted

[02:14:20] so Quakers are actually oftentimes very liberal with their points of view as far as politics are concerned because they're community minded and they're very piece they do not subscribe to war of any type like they they are very anti war so there there's a lot of

[02:14:38] aspects to what they are that are different from some other groups of Christians out there so they seem like they actually live what they talk I would be interested in learning like I know a

[02:14:51] little bit about them I would be interested in doing a dive into them a little bit more at some point as I'm sure we will I feel like a series of diving into the nomination this is due yeah

[02:15:02] you know so we got to get through Christianity first before we talk about the denominations I mean it's all Christianity that's all Christianity yeah I know I understand that I'm just saying we we'll do that series once we get to the new testament that's that's what I meant

[02:15:18] well you said you get through Christianity we're not we're not in Christianity yeah I know that we're not good okay so anyway God is talking and he's like I'm the best I'm gonna bring

[02:15:28] the garden of Eden and it's gonna be so pretty yeah and happy and rainbows and care bears the trees will yield their fruit and the ground will yield its crops and you'll get a care bear

[02:15:40] stair and it'll get on you and you'll have rainbows in your in your brain I see yeah okay the people will be securing their land with lollipops they will know that I am the Lord when I

[02:15:52] break the bars of their yoke and rescue them from the hands of those who enslaved them and when they can pick popcorn off of apricot trees you know if God actually did come down

[02:16:03] and break the yoke off of me and before me from slavery that would be sweet I mean I that would inspire me to believe in him but that's not what actually is happened so you

[02:16:13] they will no longer be plundered by the nations nor will wild animals devour them they will live and safety and no one will make them afraid that sounds so pretty you know I have to say that

[02:16:26] in this day and age there's not a ton of people I would imagine at least in in very popular areas that get devour by animals anymore right that is true although I'm isn't it in Australia

[02:16:39] where babies can get eaten by wild dengoes probably probably and now I get those dogs and Florida yeah yes as we share the video of that recently but yeah I there like I want to go to Australia

[02:16:51] but then again like every time I think about going to Australia the other thing that comes to mind is like there's the animals the the the the the the things that are down there why would anybody go there

[02:17:02] I want to just there's like a million things I can kill you I want to go to New Zealand yeah I think it's pretty there yeah that was where the Lord of the Rings was shot I know and

[02:17:10] um they made Stephen Colbert like an honorary member like they gave him a key to the city because he loves the shire so much yeah because he's in love with um the Lord of the Rings yeah

[02:17:22] big time so I think that's cute yeah Amanda Palmer went and lived there during COVID really she was kind of trapped a little bit yeah yeah I didn't know that yeah but I always wanted to go

[02:17:35] see New Zealand I think it would be lovely gotcha yeah I God says Ekeel right right we'll provide for them a land renowned for its crops and they will no longer be victims of famine in

[02:17:46] the land or bear the scorn of their nations then they will know that I the Lord they're God and with them it's so hypocritical he is literally the one that caused those things like

[02:18:00] he claimed that he caused those things now he's like and now that I'm fixing them for you you're gonna like you're gonna know my name is the Lord because I caused it and

[02:18:10] because I fixed it yeah right like there's a word and it doesn't really matter what is going on whatever it is I did it and you're gonna know that I'm the Lord yeah that's pretty much how

[02:18:21] this book goes yeah pretty much yeah um I am with them and they that is real lights are my people declares the sovereign Lord so we've heard are they you don't even know where half of them are

[02:18:33] right and you're planning to kill like another three-fourths of them yeah yeah you are my sheep the sheep of my pasture and I am your god declares the sovereign Lord yeah the end oh okay all right

[02:18:50] yeah I don't have much to add that was just like God is a dick I don't I don't know God is a dick we talked about a lot of stuff I kind of lost track of what we were

[02:19:00] I mean he was just like he was just yelling at the shepherd's right the shepherd's yeah yeah same you were bad leaders right I kind of kind of got up caught up in all the Jesus stuff

[02:19:09] so I mean I got lost in that for a bit so it's interesting the closer we get to the end of the old testament the more it creeps in but it's not that it creeps in so much is that

[02:19:21] we feel what was stolen from it yeah well yeah and we had talked earlier on when we were doing this podcast that we didn't want to bring Jesus into it before we got to Jesus right

[02:19:33] but I feel as we're going through these later chapters these later books you know that it's kind of important that we've mentioned at a occasional like like that feels jesusy or like oh that's where Christians get that from well yeah because it's very pertinent to what is

[02:19:49] probably gonna be coming right like it feels like this is gonna be something that like we know enough about the new testament to know that this sounds like something that they're gonna claim later on

[02:20:01] yeah and so I've it seems important now to call out the bullshit where we see it and at some level you know like I want to acknowledge that we are still in the old testament

[02:20:12] and that technically no one in this fucking book thus far knows anything about Jesus including the god of the old testament yeah nothing about jesus he's talking about David totally he is up

[02:20:24] David's but yeah and I know I know I know what the apologists are gonna say the apologists are gonna say the David as it's stated here even though they're just saying the word David

[02:20:36] is the line of David and jesus is the part of he's the line of David is what are they except that he's kind of not though I know I know we can't like actually say that because that's that would

[02:20:47] ruin their religion so we can't ruin their religion can we can't do any what you're going to do science I guess we are kind of doing that we are we are so I'm okay with that yeah I

[02:20:59] are faith is strong enough then I'm not ruining anything I know I guess I honestly don't know like if you took the challenge if you if you took the challenge to listen to us from

[02:21:09] episode one to now and you listen to all the stuff that we have talked about I honestly can't understand how you would still believe in god yeah I really don't I don't I've been here

[02:21:23] through this whole podcast and I know that we started with an atheist land and we still have an atheist land but like the things that we are reading I just can't fathom how somebody can

[02:21:36] accept them at face value right it makes no sense and the only other people that are telling you this differently is your pastor who is cherry picking shit so that you don't have to think

[02:21:49] you know like here is how this matches up with that and this is why this is that which okay great I can make anything fit if you want me to work hard enough at it we can we can correlate

[02:22:01] any two things and make them match up somehow promise I promise I can make that happen you can generally I'm sure somebody come up with an example I can't but you know you Cooper anyway that was a Zeekeel chapter 34 sure's fuck was which means that we'll be back

[02:22:18] tomorrow with a Zeekeel chapter 35 all right we'll see you guys then but wait do you know where the hell we are and how the hell we got here well we're running a little bit late

[02:22:34] a lot late so our podcast was supposed to release well technically it's Saturday now it's Saturday so it was supposed to release yesterday sort of and we apologize but we are giving

[02:22:47] this out this will be we just got done with a Zeekeel chapter 34 well we should say the reason that we are late is because the presidential debate was Thursday night and rather than record we

[02:23:01] spent time watching that spoiler trump is still an asshole yeah so there's that and Biden is still old yeah yeah that too anyway so we last time we read a Zeekeel chapter 34 sure's fucked

[02:23:17] and in that chapter God is telling his shepherds to kind of fuck off sure he's like dudes you suck and you're telling the wrong message to these people and I'm taking over and y'all are fucked

[02:23:31] I'm going to starve you and then probably kill you and let the animals eat you and I'm holding you responsible for all that these fuckers did wrong because you let them to it right right and you know

[02:23:43] there's punishment and then there's punishment and this is like the the torture before the death type thing yeah which God seems to like to do the gleeful masochism it seems a bit much you know I

[02:23:57] I don't approve of his ways of managing his people I'm wife and I don't approve this message no no yeah it's not good so anyway that was the just of Zeekeel chapter 34 yes which means that today we're getting into a Zeekeel chapter 35 all right and before we get

[02:24:16] into this I do have one little side note that I want to mention because I can't let this past without saying something about it okay and that is that the asshole known as Ryan um the hell is his name

[02:24:28] Ryan secrets no he's the super intended down Oklahoma city schools or whatever Oklahoma school yeah anyway I don't you know what I think it's Ryan Walters but I don't mean give a fuck about his name he doesn't deserve to have his name mentioned but at a recent

[02:24:44] meeting they just declared that every teacher in the state of Oklahoma is going to be required to read and teach the Bible in school yeah because they wanted to reflect the importance of how

[02:25:01] Christianity helped uh found our nation yeah yeah which like broo dudes I hate I mean this is just it's just these people are seeking the limelight right they're like oh this this shit really gets

[02:25:15] attention I'm gonna throw my name in the ring even if I lose it doesn't matter even if I lose it doesn't matter because they're they're like the Christians will love this you know the right wing Christians the crazy the craze christian christian christian they're all for making

[02:25:29] our fucking country at theocracy you know they they feed on this and they're like oh what can I do to up the ante here right it just pisses me off and it's like this is gonna go nowhere it's not

[02:25:39] even a fucking law it does go somewhere because it normalizes no you're right this situation so that by the tenth time it happens we no longer give a shit cuz we're like Ben there done that and then one

[02:25:51] squeaks through and we're like wait what yeah that's how this happens no I I'm well aware of what is happening why it's happening it's just I had to say something because we can't let these

[02:26:06] things just keep passing without doing and saying something about them right so let that fucker know what you think of them and let Oklahoma say they're tell Oklahoma when no fucking way

[02:26:16] no fucking way you know just I we have to say something and anyway I'm off my high horse here we're gonna get on with the Bible let's get on with the Bible so we were in 34 and now we are

[02:26:26] getting into again yeah again sorry Zikael 35 all right let's do this okay dokie all right we are happening to a Zikael chapter 35 or is I like to call it easy kind

[02:26:44] you took over my church as a Zikael yeah yeah I don't know that because I didn't appreciate it so I took it away from you this is my game we play by my rules and you're always wrong okay yeah

[02:26:58] there is that all right the word of the Lord came to me is he Kiel yeah son of man yeah mere human you fucking worm set your face against Mount Sear prophecy against it and say this is what

[02:27:14] the sovereign Lord says Mount Sear okay I'm against you Mount Sear okay and I'll stretch out my hand against you and make you a desolate waste okay I'm gonna interrupt him for a second and I'm

[02:27:27] gonna come over here to talk about Mount Sear for a minute I was about to ask because I have no idea what the fuck we're talking about here I don't know exactly where it is I was gonna maybe

[02:27:37] cover that more in like Q&A kind of thing yeah but there was a note that said Zikael's Oracle against Eidam so I guess it's Eidam is a brief condemnation of Israel's neighbor for taking advantage

[02:27:53] of Israel's broken condition okay the motivation for locating a second or not for locating the motivation for doing this more vehement condemnation than the one he already did right it's like really weirdly placed sure say the people and like we when you condemn them before it was

[02:28:14] we were talking about the Eidamites and Eidam you know we're talking specifically we didn't say Mount Sear right so that's a weird way to reference it yeah and I'm not really sure why we did

[02:28:24] that but okay yeah it's very weird I mean sometimes they do reference things geographically which okay I mean I can be down with that I guess right why we have the different ways of

[02:28:35] reference in it in the same book yeah it does that that specifically doesn't make a whole lot of sense it really doesn't because a lot of times you can tell the authorship of particular sections

[02:28:46] by how they the terms they use and whatever yeah how they refer to something like if they say you know like 50 years or a lifetime right that will which doesn't lend to the idea that

[02:28:58] Ezekiel wrote this one this entire book right I mean and we don't specifically know we I think you dug into this a little bit before we started this but that most people say that yeah generally

[02:29:09] probably Ezekiel wrote this sort of but other people might not have said on stuff there was a lot of editing and redacting later yeah so he may have written the original bits but it's been chopped a bit

[02:29:21] yeah and I mean you can tell I think by the way yes it's spray spray right now Ezekiel all right so God is continuing to speak according to Ezekiel who goes on to say I God will turn your towns into ruins

[02:29:36] and you will be desolate then you will know that I'm the Lord yeah that that destruction shit always tells me that somebody's the Lord never not be afraid yep never not be afraid because you harbored

[02:29:50] an ancient hostility you know like the one we discussed several chapters ago and delivered the Israelites over to the sword at the time of their calamity the time their punishment reached its climax hold on hold on just a fucking second the Ezekiel delivered the Israelites over to their

[02:30:11] calamity right that's what they just said over to the sword right to the sword time of their calamity okay but this is God's sword this is the sword of the Lord this is God bringing

[02:30:25] this destruction on Israel for their own mis you know misconduct right so why does he give a fuck if somebody's helping the sword of the Lord I know this is this is the thing he is doing this

[02:30:38] is the action he has deemed necessary so why is it specifically because he didn't reach out to the Ezekiel you might say hey I need your help is that what this is about I don't know because he didn't

[02:30:49] talk about the king and I'd like this right well I mean he doesn't I mean Babylon doesn't even worship you know yeah y'all way as a God right so I don't I don't think anybody in Babylon claims

[02:31:01] that they heard from God and that's why they're doing this right I've certainly not heard that in the Bible and I wouldn't believe it if you're gonna feel they said it but that that's not what's

[02:31:10] happening here he's claiming that he made these people do this thing and then got mad at them for doing it right but only because this wasn't specifically the people that he was using as his

[02:31:21] sword right it's just this random other group of people that merely maybe capitulate in a little bit to these this massive force that was coming at them to help them destroy the Israelites that

[02:31:33] maybe they didn't get destroyed quite as much right that I mean so whatever I don't really blame them that much if you see imminent doom on the horizon you do what you can't not die right yeah

[02:31:47] so what okay I'm sorry I'm I'm I'm gonna in rant I just that was that pissed me off God's a dick fuck y'all way yeah yeah I mean we should be mad at anybody for sending the sword

[02:31:59] towards the Israelites it's gonna be God yeah that's he's the one that said he did it yeah multiple times yeah yeah so okay so because you harbored an ancient hostility and deliver the Israelites over to the sword at the time of their calamity the time their punishment reached

[02:32:18] its climax therefore as surely as I live which yeah again do you know yeah declares the silver lord I will give you over to bloodshed and it'll pursue you because you know yeah pain yep yep

[02:32:34] pain we love that bloodshed in the Bible since you did not hate bloodshed bloodshed will pursue you hold on like I don't hate um mountain lions does that mean mountain lions are gonna come after me and

[02:32:50] pursue me no no no yeah that's just a poorly phrase sentence I don't care for it because this equals that yeah that's not correct sir right you did that wrong well and and who exactly is it

[02:33:04] that doesn't hate that that likes bloodshed or whatever and right or seeer whatever he may be also referring to some of their idolatry and whatever yeah I'm saying when an apologist might say like okay okay you probably are saying that they you know did child sacrifices or whatever

[02:33:27] but I just like the point out that we're taught generally in society not to speak in generalization is not to speak in you know like putting everybody in the same basket right you can't speak to an

[02:33:40] entire culture and expect it to hold true for everybody right so he's he's saying we're going to destroy you guys but who exactly is like isn't their leadership is it there everybody on the ground

[02:33:50] everybody everybody there was for this like who is it exactly right we're destroying and why are we destroying I think these things matter right if we're gonna destroy people we're gonna fucking kill them

[02:34:00] because you're God and you're fucking petty what is your reason I need to know your reason and I need to know is this a genocide or yeah like are you gonna have a remnant over there or are you calling

[02:34:12] out like five people or like what's going on the whole town yeah what about the babies wise and animals because you tend to not like those guys yeah and when you get on a killings

[02:34:22] for you tend to kill everything right sort of you you kill everything but then you come back later and say well but I'm gonna let some of them go so you don't kill everything but you like to

[02:34:30] say you claim you kill everything yeah so you sure claim that state god is god is a little confused often I feel and very much overreactive to situations that arise and that's my assessment here

[02:34:46] that's sorry I interrupted like and then I just went off so I apologize you are in a mood sir yeah what I mean God brings it out the best of you I God according to a Zekil will make

[02:35:01] Mount Seer a desolate waste and cut off from it all who coming go okay I will fill your mountains with the slain those killed by the sword will fall on your heels is that like in your

[02:35:16] valleys and all your ravines like is the mountain kind of like a twinky filled with bodies yes okay sorry I just you know I I was the imagery that was going through my head I had to say it

[02:35:30] so that's a big tweet yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah come about the twinky right of course and then there's zombie land where oh I love the I love the two walls in the area yeah it's great I God according to

[02:35:46] Zekil will make you fucking desolate forever forever forever forever forever forever forever forever your towns will not be inhabited okay then you'll know that he is a dick that I'm the Lord how are you going

[02:36:02] to know it if you're dead I was wrong I didn't get that one right apparently I don't mind thinking I might be right though you you're right or then this book right because how are they going

[02:36:11] to know that you're the Lord if they are not alive to know the thing right I'm that's I question that multiple times like I don't I don't get it you know I don't get it eating every time yeah

[02:36:21] all right because you have said these two nations and countries will be ours and we will take possession of them even though the Lord was there therefore surely as I live to clears the sovereign

[02:36:33] Lord I will treat you in accordance with the anger and jealousy you showed in your hatred of them and I'll make myself known among them when I judge you okay then no I'm sorry then then yeah then

[02:36:48] you will know that I the Lord have heard all the contemptible things you said against the mountains of Israel okay hold on I got a note here okay so where it said because you said

[02:37:01] eat on yeah um that these two nations and countries will be ours and we're going to take assuming they're talking about um Israel and uh Judah yeah yeah so that's what this suggests that the edomites plan to take possession of Israel and Judah following the Israel lights

[02:37:22] exile to Babylon. I mean if there's the land empty why wouldn't you you know move in right especially because these guys were like what friend of me cousin kind of things so and besides apparently

[02:37:32] like according to this chapter they probably made some sort of a deal with the Babylonians right so they're friendly or towards the Babylonians. The Israelites and Judah were we're rebelling against the the Babylonians or whatever they were the um who was the other tribe it was

[02:37:48] oh the uh shit I can't remember now those astronomer guys yeah this astronomer guys I can't remember the name right up yeah yeah yeah I felt it's like right on the tip of my tongue but I can't come up with it

[02:37:58] we'll never see that word again. No I know right um but so they they made it them a pact and then why wouldn't you move in right I don't understand the problem here they avoided

[02:38:09] getting slaughtered by Babylon and they're rebelling the benefits that's all. This is like two best friends right and um they're fighting over a boy right and um then one of them is like okay you can

[02:38:27] date them and then it's like just kidding never date them and then um but then goes ahead and date some herself yeah and then so the other one is like oh I guess he wants her right and even though

[02:38:41] he was gonna be with me because she said but then she you know took it back and so they're together now and so she goes and dates the other girl's brother and then the girl is like how dare never I'll

[02:38:54] kill you forever and blood on mountains and stuff like that's what this feels like though right late yeah three way fucking high school drama oh yeah no I if there's anything that is true it's

[02:39:07] that God is very petty yeah and and I don't I don't begrudge the e-demites for seeing the wind that's blowing and making a decision to try to not die right the the Israelites

[02:39:23] the Judah they they died in mass and also got exiled from their land and then in God claims that he was the one that did this but apparently E-dem decided that you know it was better to

[02:39:36] talk to Babylon so less of them died right you know I sounds like they made a good good deal there right yeah but who might as judge you know I guess their god was better huh I

[02:39:48] don't know why I mean God says he's gonna destroy the e-demites so whatever I don't know if that's actually true or not yeah I don't either that's a Q&A type of thing I have no idea I kind of

[02:39:57] feel like all the people that lived out in that area are just like one kind of sort of the same people right probably even worshiped similarly at a individual level right they might had different types of priests in those areas but like the other classes the alternate each

[02:40:12] town was painted a different color yeah and so they I don't feel like they really they they felt like that was probably they were entitled to that area just as much as the Israelites maybe

[02:40:23] yeah so I don't know what the whole thing is stupid yeah you said continued God according to his e-gile okay they have been laid waste and have been given over to us to devour you

[02:40:36] boasted against me and spoke against me without restraint not heard it that's what he really made about right right because he doesn't like it and that happens yeah and you talking shit over there

[02:40:45] I'm gonna kill you hard mm-hmm yep this is what the sovereign Lord says okay while the whole earth rejoices I'll make you desolate well the whole earth rejoices huh just that one section of earth but

[02:40:59] you ever been privy to the whole earth rejoicing no because I'm aware that it's a globe not like flat dis-right right yeah so no turtles all the way down just imagine you like the

[02:41:13] American native Indians native American sorry I that my bad we're like just all of a sudden broke out and joy and jubilation because right uh that you might size yeah I'm like yeah entirely different

[02:41:28] confidence have no idea what's happening but just joy fell upon that yeah yeah yeah yeah oh did you feel that happy wave last night I did we think that was about I don't know probably

[02:41:38] some fucking berries or shit whatever right because you rejoiced when the inheritance of his real became desolate that's how I'm on treat you okay you will be desolate you know desolation you're gonna have it because desolate means desolation and I'm gonna give you

[02:41:59] desolation for how desolate you were desolating them yeah yeah I feel like somebody like the new testament must have come about because somebody was reading through this old testament and being like Jesus Christ yeah this fucker is like an asshole yeah we need to change the messaging here

[02:42:16] yeah we can oh they probably even said Jesus Christ will like hey that's we should use that and then they were like you know what we can't even use the same God we've got to like paint

[02:42:27] a whole new picture so they were like yeah we got to humanize them a little bit and so that's like why there's that whole Trinity thing yeah because I don't know why the Holy Ghost like I don't

[02:42:39] know why there had to be three independent of the Holy Paulicism really like they they're mainly false that's not true well but it's that's what most people associate it with that's what they associate it with but like Southern Baptist they're all into the Trinity yeah my parents

[02:42:53] are Southern Baptist and they will tell you about the Holy Trinity really uh huh it's not just ever as that before okay they all are about it interesting yeah so um because actually um I was going to

[02:43:09] church with them a little bit and somebody was trying to explain it to me and they use the ice cube principle which is that water can be in multiple forms at once but it's like all the same like ice

[02:43:25] versus water versus vapor yeah I heard you you try to tell me that one thing yeah because you like how what is what is Trinity what does that even mean and I'm like it's a character in the matrix

[02:43:37] Trinity she's a badass motherfucker right all right so anyway desolation blah blah blah they're all happy over there because you're stupid because you were juiced when the inheritance of Israel became desolate that's how much treat you you'll be fucking desolate Mount Sear you

[02:43:55] went all of Eidam then they will know that I'm the Lord yeah yeah okay that you were absolutely right I did I did a quick search while we were finishing up there and it is obviously Catholic

[02:44:08] but Protestant a lot of mainline Protestant denominations which is basically every Christian that isn't Catholic is yeah right right and then even jellicle churches including Baptist and Pentecostal I've heard a called Pentecost Pentecost Pentecostal Pentecostal I'm not sure

[02:44:26] hey pronounced exactly what I Pentecostal well I've been listening to uh set the angels a little bit he always says Pentecostal so I'm like yeah I don't know that's just his way of like

[02:44:37] jabbing at it or what up but I I'm it makes me curious as to the actual pronunciation so when you said no but that's what people associated with just the Catholics you mentioned as you

[02:44:48] me personally yeah no I I take back what I said okay me personally I didn't know that it was anything but Catholic so I had no idea honestly I think it's funny the more that we learn the more

[02:45:01] that we unlearn stuff that we thought because we didn't know any better yeah I don't know that doesn't mean like logistical good with uh show I view religion or anything but it's just one

[02:45:13] more little thing that you're aware of now sure yeah at least I can understand when I hear it that it might not be just Catholic so that that does help with understanding situations and where I hear

[02:45:23] that so that that's a plus I guess yep um so yeah I I almost get sick of saying how much God has an asshole on a dick right because it's repetitive yeah but like every chapter recently feels like

[02:45:37] we've been talking about the desolation death and retribution and jealousy that God has towards people not um listening to them and stuff. I believe them and yeah and I'm just it's it's really

[02:45:51] really childish like the whole scenario that is set up with regard to how God treats these people is just a childish reaction to not really there's nothing that rises to the level of the

[02:46:08] retribution that he and acts on them. You know what makes me realize though is given that this whole God thing was written by people it really gives you insight into how petty the people were. Yeah

[02:46:22] no they were like I'm gonna kill you back so hard. It would be really interesting to read the Bible from the perspective of a historical document as to how people reacted to things back then

[02:46:35] and leaving the God aspect out of it I think that would actually make for an interesting it would like so the people back then in this area of the world were super petty they bought

[02:46:46] over land they were very tribal they were very you know yeah and they found retribution was a big deal and protecting their family name and they would kill the fuck out of you and yeah if we

[02:46:58] could take a step back from God and admit that these ideas are not God ideas right? Right? And just say there's a few more ideas it would it would shine a whole new light not a new light

[02:47:07] but it would shine a different perspective on viewing this whole idea that is Christianity and Judaism and the history of it and how people were reacting to essentially politics and war back then

[02:47:24] and it was it was with a lot of anger and it was with a lot of you know they wanted revenge they wanted revenge. Yeah and that was that was the biggest thing that I can that I can take from

[02:47:35] all this is that they all want to kill each other real bad. Except for like the people that are in trade like the cities that built themselves up they were like dudes we just want to live in

[02:47:46] peace. Yeah could you guys just stop this shit fucking boring yeah like I'm just I'm just trying to like dance with my a share of hole and buy some I don't know fucking wheat and so some God

[02:47:58] damn corn. I feel like it's a very you know like good comparison to what we're dealing with today right most of us as far as you know the the left wing and the the liberals are just like we're just trying

[02:48:11] to do our thing guys could you just like step off what the religion shit right we don't need all this crap like and we don't need your hatred towards all the different people like what what is this

[02:48:20] like why are you doing this right like I just want to be like can you just tell me what is so mean in your heart that you literally take a stance against everybody doesn't deserve healthcare like

[02:48:37] why though we can afford for everybody to have it why would we not all like that's cool right like everybody on the planet could have good medical right yeah right we could actually like

[02:48:49] we earthlings you know human kind yeah we could achieve that if we all like pulled together and did it right that would be amazing what what who fights against that and like says it with a straight

[02:49:05] face yeah I don't want some people to have medical I don't know you're not even childish like what is not even childish about like but I don't want them to die of cancer over there or

[02:49:18] starvation over there well you say it me intro right you have more empathy than this God is capable of right and I think that applies to a lot of people in the world mm-hmm the this God of the Bible

[02:49:29] has like zero empathy he's not able to put himself in the shoes of his people or any other people on the planet and adapt to his his teachings to make that better right and one be

[02:49:44] hold the people attracted to him also have no empathy right well in that that's there's I think I'm this is very off the cuff and I'm just like holding something that I kind of remember

[02:49:55] from a while back but there's been there have been I think studies with regard to either I know what's talking about right wing christ like the the far right and maybe christians right

[02:50:08] and I don't know I don't want to say this with authority no but I understand what you're talking they operate more on their fear than they do on empathy and people that are like us that better

[02:50:20] more left wing progressive level operate more on empathy than they do on fear right so it's different parts of the brains that are activated in these two types of people and that's what causes

[02:50:32] a lot of the the reactions and the differences that we have in society I don't know how we fix that and I think that some of it I think a lot of it is due to how much you expose yourself to

[02:50:44] these fearful ideas or let yourself become fearful of ideas that are out there but I some of it may be just who you are I always think it's a lack of curiosity too though yeah I don't know

[02:50:56] there's gotta be curiosity because like I was not raised to have any idea that there were other opinions much less that they were valid sure but I was so curious like I want to learn

[02:51:10] everything if I'm gonna say I am this thing then I want to know everything about what is it that I'm saying right like I was thinking today on my way home that you know maybe I want to start

[02:51:21] watching like women's basketball like I honestly like it's so in the news right now sure but then I was like okay so I need like this is the thought in my head as I'm driving home right I should look at

[02:51:34] all the teams and like pick a team and then like learn everything about like each player and I don't know anything about how they get picked and then and then I was like do I want to do

[02:51:46] college women's basketball or do I want to do pro women's and what about if I like learn other like I'm like thinking about this because I'm curious I don't even fucking like sports

[02:51:58] what is wrong with me yeah I don't I don't but I'm curious you know what I'm saying right like I just I want to know things and if you don't have that curiosity sure and I think curiosity

[02:52:11] and empathy are linked I completely agree I mean if you if you if you have empathy you want to put yourself in someone else's shoes so that you can understand their their life better and then

[02:52:22] react to it appropriately right and if you don't have curiosity then then I think I think you're right they're linked right that curiosity is kind of what drives you to that empathy like why is that

[02:52:34] person doing that well let me think about it from their perspective and kind of go from there like if you have one you're bound to develop the other yeah yeah you know what I mean

[02:52:43] well and something we always say too is that we never want to stop learning right no yeah that's a big thing is I think that if you decide that you know at all you have stopped growing completely you

[02:52:54] are not you're not contributing anything to the furtherment of ideas or society at that point in my opinion right because you have just decided that you are correct and that is not any way to operate

[02:53:04] in the world no no I think the more that generations have kind of defined themselves themselves like everybody knows the boomers right and all their faults sure right like we see what they are

[02:53:21] and there are some of us me among them who are like please please never let me be like that never let me stop like never let me be done taking in new information yeah and to be fair I'm going

[02:53:34] to I'm going to be a completely fair here and that's that I see a lot of atheists and liberals that have very close-minded ideas about what they are as well yes not as many as are on the

[02:53:48] right but they do exist on the liberal and atheist sides of things yeah and it's more often than not men because I think misogyny is just so ingrained in our culture yeah that it transcends

[02:54:04] it really does yeah I mean that's that's why you know that's why a lot of things I don't that's why a lot of people we could go on all night about misogyny so I don't really want to go

[02:54:13] down that rabbit hole right now yeah because then we could also talk about how like Hollywood and art are liberal and like they get kicked around for being like oh those liberals and it's like

[02:54:24] yeah but that's because people who have empathy are more in tune with the arts and people in the arts are more in tune with empathy you have to have empathy to be creative now I do believe

[02:54:37] I think based on my knowledge of a lot of people in my life and just observations in general right I think that maybe as you get older you start thinking you know more than everybody else

[02:54:48] well yeah you have all that experience behind you right so ideas do start solidifying and you're brain more so yes and they did it in earlier age I think that one of the things that if you

[02:54:59] want to keep progressing and keep learning that's very important to hold on to as you get older is that just know that you're stupid know that you don't know everything and be okay with that

[02:55:09] and be okay with it like I don't care who you are there's something you know nothing about there's something that you think you know something about but you don't actually know it right you know those those things apply to every single person on this planet I don't care

[02:55:21] how smart you are you have something that you're failing at well I think with empathy comes humble this the ability to be humble I mean like this it so gets into like psychology and

[02:55:34] you know philosophy yeah definitely we're so far off topic we really are so I think let's you ready to wrap this up for tonight I am all right so that was as he healed chapter 35

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[02:58:01] like it's still Saturday so we're doing our Q&A Saturday but on a Sunday that's right and what are we Q&A in today? We are covering chapters 31 through 35 of easy-to-use. Okay all right you guys some good

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[02:58:43] Okay okay okay. All right we are hopping into our Q&A for easy-to-use chapters 31 through 35. All right and the first question that we had came from chapter 32. Okay okay yeah so I'm gonna

[02:59:04] read you a couple of verses here and then we will talk about what what? Okay sure. So we're starting with verse 28 through 31. Okay yep. You two Farrow will be broken and we'll lie among the

[02:59:16] uncircumcised with those killed by the sword. Eidam is there her kings and all her princes despite their power they are laid with those killed by the sword. They lie with the uncircumcised

[02:59:28] with those who go down to the pit. It's damn uncircumcised. All the princes of the north and all the Sedonians are there. They went down with the slain and disgrace despite the terror caused by

[02:59:39] their power. They lie uncircumcised with those killed by the sword and bear their shame with those who go down to the pit. And then here is verse 31 this is the important bit okay Farrow he and all his army

[02:59:52] will see them and he will be consoled for all his words that were killed by the sword. We did have a question about that we were like why was he consoled that doesn't make any fucking sense. Yeah we

[03:00:04] did not understand we thought maybe it was like a mistranslation something. Okay so here is what I found about that okay yeah other nations that formerly terrified others and that Zikil has already

[03:00:18] denounced such as Edam and Sedon now like useless and dishonored right? Sure so all these places are like already down in the pit. Yeah okay Egypt will finish in the same place and join them

[03:00:29] in the pit. Sure yeah we know. The only comfort for Egypt will be to learn that well it's not the only nation to suffer such a humiliating end. Oh that's the common okay it's a sarcastic come

[03:00:44] it's like saying well I got my hand chopped off but on the bright side so it's like I still have my left one of the fucking Bible rag like the Bible's like you can you can you can be consoled that you're

[03:00:56] gonna die like everybody else. Yeah I mean right yeah yeah so Zikil ironically mentioned some small comfort that would come to Barrow on the day he entered hell. The comfort would come from knowing he was not the only one to suffer such shame and disgrace in the judgment.

[03:01:14] Let's clarify hell is not really defined as hell as we know it today with regard to Christian the pit. The pit right yeah so Farrow is gonna find himself in the company of every kind

[03:01:26] of fallen greatness. Okay so like when we talk about hell now we're like well we'll be there with some good company in yeah yeah yeah I'll be in good company. Right yeah the profits declaration

[03:01:36] that Farrow shall see them and shall be comforted is appalling however as it reveals that the only comfort that can come to him is the profound sense of the operation of infinite justice in the

[03:01:50] punishment of all himself included who have been guilty of the abominations which have issued in the judgment of God. Okay so it's not really a comfort. Yeah I like it but okay again these people

[03:02:05] don't actually even believe in this God so it doesn't really strike me as something that they are even fearing at all or give two shits about. Right you know like this is this is more of a

[03:02:18] brag to their own people like these people are going to do this and they're going to die and like it's the same sense of it's the same feeling I get from when someone on Twitter or something

[03:02:28] comes on what's on one of my posts and they're like you're gonna burn in hell and then it's like almost gleeful the way that they say it right you are going to suffer eternally and I'm happy

[03:02:41] about it. Right and it's like okay if I believed in that it might be a problem but I don't so that's the first part right okay so I don't care because it's not real yeah the second part is wait you're

[03:02:53] excited about that. That's the part I never get I'm like you're a fucking Christian yourself proclaimed a Christian. Yeah and you are gleefully accepting the fact that I will suffer for all eternity

[03:03:07] and you seem happy about it. Right. That is not it it feels like your religion might have missed a step in teaching you how to care about people. Yeah I'm just you know maybe maybe they didn't

[03:03:18] quite get the whole message across to you. I don't know you don't seem very like ah what people would say Christian like. It's kind of mean to laugh at people regardless of what they've done

[03:03:29] but to laugh at them because they're gonna suffer for eternity according to you. Right if you think I had any interest and be in a Christian before you've certainly ruined anything by now.

[03:03:40] Right the fact that you are this much of an asshole. It makes you think that your religion sucks you don't speak well of your group over there. Right yeah you're not representing well. Like are

[03:03:51] are you the representative that they sent to convince me? Bad they did bet you're the best that they could get huh? Yeah. Are you God's chosen spokesperson? That makes me think that your

[03:04:02] God is crap. To be fair it usually happened not well not only sometimes they just throw it out right off the cuff but a right off the bat but it's it's usually happens after you've been trying to

[03:04:13] argue with them for a while and they're like well you're gonna burn in hell and it's like okay when they're like I can't come up with any more responses so fucking win die. Right forever. Yeah

[03:04:24] okay man whatever. Right like and you're ugly too and I fucked your mom. I mean that's that's that's the basically they have hit me know what it means so we'll do that you know that's that's

[03:04:34] that's what they're saying so yeah only in a quarter of a bit like a sensor really just sense yeah. Moku. All right so our next question was that satisfaction really answered

[03:04:46] yeah consolation. It so far as you know it is what it is what it is and it can make more sense. It does make more sense yeah I was thinking of it as like literal interpretation. Right but

[03:04:57] it's that it's sarcasm. It is more like the person yelling at me on Twitter. Yeah. So I mean that that's that's the quickest way I can describe it. God be trolling. Yeah right. Is he kill whatever or

[03:05:07] the rewriter of his he kill whoever it was but somebody somebody in the Bible be trolling. Yeah that's I need that on a shirt. Bible be trolling. All right our next question came from Izzie Gail chapter 34. Okay I'm gonna again read a couple of verses number 23 and 24. Okay.

[03:05:27] I will place over them one shepherd my servant David and he will tend them he will tend them and be their shepherd. The either Lord will be their God and my servant David will be Prince

[03:05:38] among them either Lord of spoken. Yeah and we were curious about whether he knew the David line had ended we were also curious about like what the fuck does that actually mean because

[03:05:48] a lot of people are gonna tie this to Jesus and there was lots of questions. Or is this a re-risen David? Right yeah the zombie David version of whatever so. Zombie David pre Jesus or just

[03:05:59] didn't know David was dead. Yeah so I am very curious here. Yeah so David King of Israel had been dead upwards of 400 years at the time that this thing was said can't be can't be that David.

[03:06:10] Yeah and from that time till now not now today but now then when it was written. Right. There was never a ruler of any kind either in the Jewish church or state of the name of David.

[03:06:25] Okay. When we say David we're speaking of that David and the lie of David. Yeah this then must be some typical person that they were referring to just any old David right? Right. Can't be a king.

[03:06:37] Most Christian apologists believe that this reference to David is really a reference to the Messiah. The Son of David fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Right and that's what I was saying the Christians would say

[03:06:47] but I find that very not in in line with what the text of the Old Testament is because we are literally discussing Babylon right the the conquering happenings of Babylon and if you take Jeremiah

[03:07:05] and as E.K. at their word this is what we're discussing right and Jeremiah at the very least says that we are going to be held captive for 70 years. You know these real actually going to be

[03:07:15] held captive for 70 years and then they're going to return to their homeland right? Yeah and in E.K. you'll hints at some of the same ideas doesn't give the 70 year deal but because he doesn't

[03:07:27] say that I think that's why it's allowed to be interpreted as the line of David and later but we are still talking about Babylon and Babylon did not like did not hold this conquering set

[03:07:37] for for much longer than 70 years. Right. So it doesn't make sense to me that this would be referencing something that happens you know let's see it would be about 600 years in the future.

[03:07:48] Yeah. No. And even at that we talked about this while we were talking about the section in the Bible and that's that even when Jesus is there in the New Testament from what we know from what we know

[03:08:01] we haven't read it yet. Right. That is not a return to greatness. It is just merely Jesus came down and then died for everyone's sins but they were conquered by the Romans at the time.

[03:08:12] They weren't in their own land running their own show. They hadn't done any of that so so the only thing it could really reference if we are discussing the Jesus of the New Testament

[03:08:24] would be the second coming as they say. Right? And they were the Jewish first coming which hasn't happened yet because they don't believe in. Yes so if my Jewish perspective it could be

[03:08:35] the first coming right? Whatever. Their Messiah as they see it. And I could see how that could be interpreted that way or the other way but I still feel like this is a line of day like I feel

[03:08:46] like this is more in the moment because I don't know that we talked about we don't know if Ezekiel knows that the line of David is even right now and that's something else that came

[03:08:55] up in my notes he might not have known. Yeah so he may just assume that the line of David is going to continue and then whoever the next king is going to be that will be the line of

[03:09:03] David and that's going to continue the Israel, the Israel you know whatever kingdom and the all the good, all the good shit. There'll always be a remnant hanging on through the years

[03:09:15] and out of that will come David's whatever descendant. Yeah yeah and that's how I if I were to pick a version that's the version I would say is probably most likely. I would say either that one

[03:09:29] or belief in a future Messiah that's still today and 2024 has not come sure because they do believe that even today. They do so. They do you know I know I know. I know. I know. I just I feel like

[03:09:43] everything like everything that we've read in these chapters though in these books Jeremiah and Ezekiel especially have been more centered around what is happening in the very near future as

[03:09:54] opposed to the very distant. I agree. I agree with you on that so to go back to where it was Christian apologists think that David is a reference to Jesus or whatever and they would say

[03:10:06] the same of many other passages which speak of David's future rule over Israel so basically anytime the word David comes up you're supposed to replace it with Jesus in a Christian mind. I think that's probably problematic. We have reference to David line before and it definitely

[03:10:26] references things that were like prior to this. Yeah. It referenced things that we could kind of nail down as to what they probably were talking about. I feel like that might become a problem at

[03:10:37] but anytime they're talking about future David coming back that's Jesus. It's Jesus. Did you know what's Jesus? You know if God is so prophetic and telling these people exactly what's going to

[03:10:48] happen you think he'd be able to know the dude's name. What are you going to name your son, dude? Not not son of David. You're going to have a name apparently so it's going to be Jesus.

[03:10:58] There is nothing in these texts themselves that demand that it is the Messiah and not David. So there's that. Now in this particular passage David is not even described as a king but in a lesser

[03:11:11] office Prince. Yeah. Well, but they've been using Prince to describe kings throughout. Yes. So yes. The idea again according to Christian apologists is that this is when Jesus the Messiah is King

[03:11:25] over all the earth and David rules Israel as a Prince under him. Also like all of people are coming back. Yeah. It's not just Jesus coming back. David is going to come back with them and maybe maybe

[03:11:36] maybe bring them along. Zombie David. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Although Moses didn't make it in because he had to stop outside of the promise and so maybe he can't. Maybe he can't come to the party. I don't know.

[03:11:46] Now here's something interesting. The word David means beloved in Hebrew and so it had a prophetic meaning referring to the Messiah while the term David is used in this verse. It is typically

[03:11:59] understood as a symbolic reference to a descendant of David who will fulfill the role of a shepherd over God's people. Again, I feel like that's a very apologist take. Mm-hmm. Because they did not

[03:12:12] know this as they were writing the shit. Right and I think there are many other ways to interpret this if you want to. Yes. So I agree. I don't like that take. I understand why that is is a take.

[03:12:24] But I don't like that take. That take does not track and so I understand why they say it because their Christians and they have to but it's stupid and ignorant. I think that's your Bible

[03:12:36] straight guys. Right. So I think you and I both agree that the most likely thing is that Zeckel did not know that the line of David was the most likely. Yeah. And the second one would be that

[03:12:48] they use the word David in reference to the coming Messiah which has yet to come. Right. Jews today in 2024 still believe at some point is coming. Right. So yeah. And either of those

[03:13:01] I think are acceptable because that makes sense. Yeah. Both of them. Right. Not just in a stupid apologist way either. Like in reading the text either of those makes sense with the text.

[03:13:12] I'm going to say one more thing and that's that if we are going to pretend that the line of David continues through Jesus or the next Jewish Messiah right. That would mean that all of the

[03:13:23] prophets that are speaking this way understand that there is still someone that is holding to the David line somewhere out there. Right. So if Zeckel understood that to be the case then

[03:13:34] he would also maybe understand that the next king of Judah or Israel would end up being someone from the David line. Right. Right. Whoever that may be but I don't think that he was referencing this

[03:13:47] as a far out type of an idea. No, I totally agree with you because their prophecies usually were within the next. Yeah. They were very close history. There are very close history is what the

[03:13:58] prophecies were usually referencing. So all right. I'm done. Okay. So our final question came from chapter 35 and so I'm going to read these two verses one and two. Sure. The word of the Lord came to me.

[03:14:11] Son of man. Yeah, me or human. Yeah. Fucking warm. Set your face against Mount Sear. Prophecy against it and we were like what's a Mount Sear? And why are they mentioning Sear? Mount Sear as opposed to Eidam. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That was a question I definitely had.

[03:14:28] I didn't find a reason for them saying Eidam as opposed to Mount Sear. It's just a stylistic choice of the author, which you and I both said indicates that there were multiple authors

[03:14:42] of this particular chapter if not the whole book. Right. So I didn't find anything on that. However, I did find a little bit just about Mount Sear itself. Okay. All right. So on the

[03:14:53] eastern side of the Jordan River Mount Sear was a center of the Eidamites, the descendants of Jacob's brother Issa and Eidam is symbolized here by its distinctive landmark Mount Sear. So that could be a

[03:15:08] reason why somebody would refer to it that way because Mount Sear was how some people referred to Eidam. Got it. Okay. That makes that make some sense. I think I can understand why somebody would refer

[03:15:22] to it that way. I can't understand why Eidam would refer to it both ways. So I again think that two different writers. Yes, at least two separate writers and they referred to Eidam and Mount Sear

[03:15:36] separately as the same thing but yeah you get what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. No, I got it. I got it. Mount Sear is the ancient and biblical name for a mountainous region stretching between the

[03:15:47] Dead Sea and the Gulf of Aukaba in the northwestern region of Eidam and the southeast of the kingdom of Judah. Okay. Okay. It may also have marked the older historical limit of ancient Egypt and

[03:16:02] Canaan. Got it. So that whole area was either Sear or Mount Sear. Got it. Yeah. Mount Sear was named for Sear the Horeite who's offspring the Horeites had previously inhabited the area according

[03:16:18] to the book of Genesis. So we have heard of Mount Sear before. Yeah, I definitely remember talking about the Horeite. I do not remember Mount Sear being mentioned though. I don't either but I mean that

[03:16:27] doesn't mean it wasn't there. I don't know. It's totally red for sure. Yeah. And I think my biggest issue with this whole thing, this whole bit is that we had talked about Inesicula already. We had

[03:16:39] talked about the Eidamites. And in fact, in we just referenced them, I think in chapter 32 and they were talking about the Eidamites we're going to be buried with the Pharaoh and all that right?

[03:16:49] Yeah. So we definitely know that the Eidamites there. So when we are saying Mount Sear, we have to do one of two things. We have to either accept the fact that somebody else wrote it

[03:16:59] or that this section in particular was on purpose being more poetic than another section in a more symbolic than another section to reference something else with regard to his writing. But either way, it is definitely outside of how it is normally referenced. Correct. With regard to the Eidamites.

[03:17:17] Yes, I agree. So I'm just going to go through a couple of other places where Mount Sear was mentioned. Sure. The children of E saw the Eidamites battled against the Horeites and destroyed them in the

[03:17:27] book of Deuteronomy. Okay. Okay. Mount Sear is specifically noted as the place where E saw made his home. Okay. And then in the book of numbers, the prophet Beilung predicting is real like victories over the trans Jordanian nations at the end of their exodus from Egypt. Yeah.

[03:17:44] Stated Eidam Shabia possession. Sear also his enemy Shabia possession. Okay. So Beilung being of course, you know, that the one that had to talk in Donkie. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Mount Sear is also given as the location where the remnants of the

[03:18:01] Amalachites that had escaped were annihilated by 500 Simonites according to first chronicles. Okay. Which I do not remember. I don't recall that either. And then in second chronicles, the inhabitants of Mount Sear, the Eidamites came along with the Amonites and Moa bites against

[03:18:20] Jeho's of that of Jeho'shrafat of Judah. However, quote, the Lord said ambushments against them causing their forces to annihilate one another. Got it. And then Mount Sear is referenced in the

[03:18:33] prophetic books, Isaiah and Ezekiel as a term for Eidam. Sure. So this is just the first time we've caught it. Well, it didn't like I do remember saying Sear at some point, but I don't remember. Like

[03:18:47] I don't know that I put Eidam and Sear together, right? Like that wasn't a thing that I had correlated with. Back they didn't. Now. And if I did, it was only just in the moment when we talked

[03:18:57] about it the last time. So I'll probably forget this again honestly. Oh, sure. Sure. But because it's not in the grand scheme of talking about what the Bible is, you know, the enemies of Israel and Judah are not really overly important to the overarching story line.

[03:19:11] Like we're more concerned about what God's direction for these people is. Yes. Is. Yes. And not so much the enemies. So like it doesn't. Right. Relevancy is part of the problem was to why I don't remember something exactly. Exactly. So there were a couple of

[03:19:26] controversies with regard to Mount Sear. Okay. First of all, is it's current day geography. Okay. Currently I found two different definitive statements as to where it's located today. And both did not present it as some people believe. Okay. Both references were like it is here.

[03:19:44] Got it. And they were factual and I was like, wait, am I crazy or are those two different things? And I had to check it make sure because I'm not familiar with the geography, right? But they were referencing two different things. Two different things. Okay. So

[03:19:56] here's the first sentence. Okay. Currently this former territory of Edom is controlled by Jordan. Okay. And near the border with Saudi Arabia. Okay. The other sentence says it is the territory of Edom is located in Syria. Okay. I was like, hold on. But our Syria and Jordan,

[03:20:21] those are separate, right? They are. They're separate. Right. Like I had to check that because my American ignorance, I'm not familiar with that area at all. And I was like, well maybe Syria's

[03:20:32] in Jordan or maybe Jordan's in Syria. I don't fucking know. Maybe one's a little place in the other. Like maybe one's a city and one's a larger territory. Right. Like I do not know the setup. So

[03:20:43] I had to check and they are like right next to each other but they are two separate areas. Got it. Okay. So it's in one or the other somewhere around Saudi Arabia. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, that was the first controversy about Mount Sear. Here's another interesting

[03:21:02] take on it. There are some Christian quote unquote scholars who are trying to put for the idea that Mount Sear is synonymous with Mount Sinai. Okay. All right. And that wait Mount Sinai is the

[03:21:20] one where Moses climbed up, right? Oh wow. Now you got me on the spot here. I don't know what yeah. I don't know what mountain. Okay. Time to up right up. Because that feels wrong and I didn't

[03:21:33] write it down because I wasn't sure I was going to say it or not. Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get just. I'm doing a quick search as a sea. Mount Sinai is Mount Sinai. Okay. And Mount Sinai is also called

[03:21:45] Mount Horab, which we have covered in the past. Right. Yeah. But anyway, some people are saying that Mount Sear is the same thing as Mount Sinai and then others are like, no, no, no, Mount Sear is just

[03:22:01] one of the peaks of the range of Mount Sinai, the range. Okay. And then the rest are like, the fuck are you talking about it's not even the same. You dummy. Yeah. So there's like this whole

[03:22:15] like we can't even tell you what the fuck Mount Sear is much less where it's located. Yeah. So they were I mean, in the general searching I was doing and they were saying that they were like

[03:22:27] there might be like a northern mountain that might have been referred to as Mount Sear at one point. But it's not as prominent as far as like what is referenced in with regard to this section of the

[03:22:37] Bible of the Southern range, which is the the Sear Mountains essentially. Well, and then there's also the fact that these people lived on like flat grounds and what did they consider a mountain? That's a

[03:22:50] good point. Yeah. It's been a really big fucking hill. I mean, I would think of a large hill as a small mountain. Sure. I would. Yeah. But that may not even exist today because you know 2000 plus

[03:23:03] year, they might have just called the you know the Mount Everest fuck you, you know. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, if I came to that and we were trying to go through, I'd be like, no,

[03:23:14] fuck you. That's that's be my reaction. Yep. Yep. Let me turn them back guys. Sorry. All right. You got any other questions or answers for us? That was my Q&A for two days, not Saturday.

[03:23:25] Okay. Well, so that does it for this episode. Um, we I think are going to still try to do maybe a Patreon today. I'm going to try to squeeze one out. So we got that still coming up later today, hopefully.

[03:23:37] And then I will get the weekly wrap up out and then we will be back on Monday with a Ziggy all chapter 36. All right. We'll see you then. Bye.