Ezekiel Chapter 36: Bible Study by Atheists

[00:00:00] Welcome to Sacrilegious Discourse. For this is what the sovereign Lord says, Why do you need prophets to tell people who you are and what you want? If you can justify everything that the God of the Bible

[00:00:11] has done, then you can justify any of your behavior. A lot of this mentality is trickling into what is now mainstream right wing Christianity. I am capable of empathy greater than this God of the Bible.

[00:00:26] This is a Bible that they tell kids, this is the good Lord, this is the good book, this is He is fantasizing about murder, mass murder. And over to Sacrilegious Discourse.com right now I got a little sort of you or some

[00:00:42] who doesn't hate you. I've been Wife! Do you remember what happened on Friday and where the hell we are today? Well, on Friday we read Ezekiel Chapter 35. And in that chapter God was talking about Mount Seer. And that was the Edomites who apparently

[00:01:06] they were helping destroy the Israelites? Yeah, which was God's doing. But not always. They had been against the Israelites from like the very beginning. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I mean, being an enemy is one thing. But in this particular time it was God bringing the

[00:01:31] Babylonians against Israel and the Edomites assisted somehow. So God was attacking them. And then the Edomites helped and then God was like fuck you, Edomites. Okay, but to be fair to God Jesus Christ the campaign was. It wasn't just that one act that God was punishing

[00:01:55] the Edomites for. They had throughout the Israelites history done a number of things. Like going as far back as when Moses was leading the people through the desert, the 40 years and they had wanted to pass through the land of the Edomites and they said absolutely fucking not. Sure,

[00:02:14] we still hate you. No, I get it. They've been mad at them for a long time. But I mean, it's still God attacking Israel at the same time that the Edomites are helping this time.

[00:02:24] Just a particular time. Sure. And then that's when they occupied their land. So I mean, it was a bit of, you know, convenient time to punish them, I guess? Sure. If you're going to punish them.

[00:02:36] Sure. Whatever. So I'm just, I don't particularly, I'm not down with God's punishments on anybody because it, it, it seems very just randomly dispersed to people. Yes, I agree with you. But anyway, that is what happened in Ezekiel chapter 35? Yes. Which means that today we're getting into

[00:02:55] Ezekiel chapter 36. And before we do, I want to mention that we are still catching up from being behind. We didn't get a Patreon out this weekend, but we will have one out mid week. Yes, I've been working on it.

[00:03:10] I've just, I've been behind on everything. So that's my fall apology. We will get one out shortly. So that being said, we're going to go ahead and get into Ezekiel chapter 36. And are you ready, wife? Yep. All right. Let's do this. Okay. Okay.

[00:03:30] All right. We are hopping into Ezekiel chapter 36. Or is I like to call it, Ezekiel. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, ready? I'm ready. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. You're fucking warm. Prophecy to the mountains of Israel and say mountains of Israel.

[00:03:48] Here are the word of the Lord. This is what the sovereign Lord says. I mean, nothing like speaking to some rocks. The enemy said of you. The ancient heights have become our position.

[00:04:01] Okay. So live where we're kind of still maybe talking about the Ezekiel. The beginning parts here is part of the last chapter. Okay. So yeah, it's like to be continued. Yeah. We didn't know because

[00:04:15] we thought it was the end. Sure. On Friday. And then it's like, oh fuck. Yeah. Okay. But the whole chapter isn't. It's just the beginning part. Okay. Yeah. They're full prophecy and say this is what the sovereign

[00:04:28] says because they ravaged and crushed you from every side so that you became the possession of the rest of the nations and the object of people's malicious talk and slander. Therefore, mountains of Israel, here the word of the sovereign Lord. This is what the sovereign

[00:04:47] Lord says to the mountains and the hills, to the ravines and valleys, to the desolate ruins and the deserted towns that have been plundered and ridiculed by the rest of the nations around you. Sure.

[00:04:57] But with the witch he said, he was going to have them do. Yeah. So this was all part of the initial prophecy and now he's going to be mad at the people that did the thing that he said

[00:05:07] that they were going to do. God is mad at God's ineffable plan. Right. Yeah. Again, it doesn't work in my head. I'm like, you can't. You're just mad all the fucking time, dude. Right. Right.

[00:05:19] Whatever. Never not be mad. Right. This is what the sovereign Lord says. In my burning zeal, I have spoken against the rest of the nations and against all Edom for with Glee and with

[00:05:32] malice in their hearts. They made my land their own possession so that they might plunder its pastureland. But you say he was going to make that land desolate and not and not good. So

[00:05:44] how can you plunder something that's already bad? It wasn't bad, but failed. But God said he was going to do that. He said he was going to do it, but clearly he didn't. The Edom might be so hurt. That's why

[00:05:55] I'm pointing that because therefore prophecy concerning the land of Israel and say to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys, this is what the sovereign Lord says. Yeah, that's the one. I speak in my jealous wrath because you have suffered the scorn of the nations. Therefore,

[00:06:15] this is what the sovereign Lord says. The Edom before they get into every sentence. Yeah. Yes. I swear with uplifted hand that the nations around you will also suffer scorn. You mountains of Israel will produce branches and fruit for my people. Israel, for they will

[00:06:39] soon come home. Okay. That's not some years later. Right. Yeah, no. I mean, this goes to the part where I'm like they're talking about a new, they're they're talking about a soon-to-happen prophecy. Like

[00:06:51] this goes to that whole idea and I keep saying that this doesn't make sense to where we push this off to be Jesus at some point. Right. Whatever, we're talking about near future. Yeah.

[00:07:03] You're talking about when they refer to David. Yeah, when they refer to David and when they make assumptions that these are things that are going to still happen. Whatever, there's there's definite things that Christians, especially, take from the Old Testament and they say,

[00:07:17] hey, this is going to happen. You know, either when Jesus was alive or when He's coming back the second time. Right. And I'm like no, they're not, this isn't how it reads, guys. No, no, it doesn't read that

[00:07:29] way. No, you're trying too hard on your guys. I, God, according to his E.K. And concerns for you and we'll look on you with favor. You will be plowed and soon and I will cause many people to live on

[00:07:45] you. Yes, all of Israel, the towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt. I, you know, God, according to the E.K. I'll write, right? We'll increase the number of people and animals

[00:07:58] living on you and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and we'll make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I'm the Lord.

[00:08:10] And this is, this is problematic actually today. This is, this is partly why Israel feels they have the right to create settlements on Palestinian lands. Yeah. And this is why, you know,

[00:08:20] they, they feel that they have this ownership of this land is because of the Bible. Yeah. Right. And I don't want to disparage the right of Israel to exist where they are, but it does contribute

[00:08:33] to the fact that they are very, they're, they're fighting against people that are already there to create this space that was allotted to them in the Bible. Right. And that has turned into some

[00:08:48] ugly situations. Yeah. Yes. All I'm saying. Yeah. So, you know, it is there's a lot of bad situations all the way around. You know, I don't want to not acknowledge that the Israelites and

[00:09:00] Jewish people have had a rough time in the world. But they're also now creating a rough time in the world. I was going to say that other people that does not justify a genocide on other people. No,

[00:09:10] it does not. They, you were genocide at one time, does not afford you the right to genocide others for your land. They, you absolutely have to have and can't share. I, I, I, one of the caveat

[00:09:23] that because it's usually, people will call you anti-smetic if you say that they don't have the right to exist in their land, whatever. It's not even the whole argument that is made by the people who are

[00:09:37] adamantly for Israel is to the point of absurdity. You don't, you're not allowing for real life and real happenings. You know? Well, the people that accuse you of being anti-Semitic are generally the most anti-Semitic Christians who are using this situation to pretend that they're totally

[00:09:57] pro-Jewish and pros-I on them, pro everything is real. Yeah. And it's like in that convenient all of a sudden you just love these people that you, you didn't love yet. It's not that they

[00:10:08] love them. It's a, they're, they're part of a prophecy. They're part of the completion of their religion. Yeah. And therefore they must exist because of that. Right. That's all it is. But that's

[00:10:19] what I'm saying. Like all of a sudden, because of this situation, they're like, oh no, no, we totally, if you don't like it then your anti-Semitic. And I'm like shut the fuck up because it's an effective, you were anti-Semitic. Right. But it's because it's an effective, um,

[00:10:35] you know, it's an effective jab at you. Right. You call someone anti-Semitic. Obviously, based on recent history that that doesn't sound good. Right. It's not, it doesn't sit well with people of any type. So well, anti-Zion is not anti-Semitic. Correct. And anti, um,

[00:10:53] wanting the Palestinians to not be genocideed is not anti-Semitic. I completely agree. Wanting a peaceful situation for both parties is not anti-Semitic. Agreed. So fuck anybody who says otherwise they clearly don't understand the history or geography of the place

[00:11:11] and or they don't give a fuck about it. Right. Let's have a rational discussion about it outside of religious practices. Right. Exactly. That's all I want. Exactly. When that be nice. We really would. And that goes for anything anywhere ever. Yeah. Like, let's just skip the

[00:11:27] religions bit. You know? I mean, okay, you have a very historical religious place that you want to keep. I'm down with that. That's cool. You know, we can talk about that outside of religion even.

[00:11:37] You know, they say historical place. Right. For you. Let's talk about it. Yeah. But can we not include like genociding other people and justifying it because but God said God said I could.

[00:11:50] God said I could. So I will. Yeah. Anyway, fuck this God and all his murdery bullshit. Right. Right. Who says, I will cause people. My people is real to live on you. They will possess you.

[00:12:03] And you will be there in heritons. You will never again deprive them of their children. This is what the sovereign Lord says. Yeah. Yeah. Because some say to you, you devour people and deprive your nation of his children. Therefore, you will no longer devour people

[00:12:19] or make your nation childless to clear as the sovereign Lord? Who's he talking to? I don't even know the people in the mountains or the Israelites. I thought he was talking to the Israelites. But that's

[00:12:30] something like he did. He's talking to. He did say it was some point like he was going to make the women of Israel or Judah eat their children and stuff because they'd be starving so much in

[00:12:41] the Babylonian exile. That's true. So that maybe what he's referring to? You're not going to be. You're not going to, you're no longer going to eat your child. Yeah. That's also a great.

[00:12:50] Look how good of a God I am. I'm not going to make you make you eat your children anymore. We're such a great God. That sounds fun. The par is so fucking low. I know. No longer will

[00:13:02] I make you hear the tons of the nations and that is what I cared most about. He does not my salvation. I mean, that's probably why he brings him back in the first place because he's like

[00:13:11] has this sucks. They don't that no one's crazy me. No one believes on powerful. And no longer will you suffer the scorn of the peoples or cause your nation to fall. Declares the sovereign Lord.

[00:13:24] Okay. Again, the word of the Lord came to me. Son of man. Yeah, mere human. Yeah, fucking worm. When the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman's monthly unclean. It's my side.

[00:13:44] You period you. You menstruation. God dammit you menstruation. You know, he caused menstruation that happened. You fucking disgusting bleeding vagina is fucking invention. I know. According to the Bible, you know, I mean, that you can't make the human and then say, ah, that's disgusting.

[00:14:04] You made that. Right. You could have made it without that. Right. Why didn't you? If you find it so fucking repulsive. Right. I can't believe you're bleeding out your vagina even though I made you do that specifically. Yeah. You're so disgusting. No, it is. Fuck you. The fucking

[00:14:21] like the ancient Israel, what are these ancient times? It's just a bunch of fucking insels. Yeah. So this is the only, they don't even understand women at all. No, they just own them. Yep. That's it.

[00:14:34] Yep. So anyway, periods are gross. Blood, blood, blood. So I poured out my wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had to file it with their idols fucking asheropoles.

[00:14:46] I dispersed them among the nations and they were scattered through the countries. I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. And wherever they went among the nations, they profane

[00:14:57] my holy name. Right, with said of them, these are the Lord's people and yet they had to leave his land. What's it? It was so okay. So this is a bit where he's concerned about his fucking

[00:15:07] image. Yeah. He's like, he's passing it off that their word. Right. He's the one. Yeah. He's like, oh, these people outside are like, what's up with that God? Well, no, in this

[00:15:19] and you know that this is like the like a Zee Keele, right? He's a, he's a fucking prophet. And he's sitting there in Babylon, preaching about fucking God and people in Babylon are going to

[00:15:32] you just kind of fucking conquered man. What do you think your God sucks, man? He's what do you think? So this is just projection. This is a Zee Keele like, oh, this sucks. We got to figure out a way to

[00:15:43] get this fixed. Yeah. Exactly. I got according to a Zee Keele. Yeah. I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profane among the nations where they had gone. Therefore say to

[00:15:57] these relates, this is what sovereign Lord says. Okay. It is not for your sake people of Israel that I'm going to do these things. Wait, wait. He just got to understand that they're going

[00:16:09] to be wonderful and perfect when they come back. But he's like, you're profaneing and I'm not doing them for you. I'm going to do this for me. Yeah. I'm going to bring you back. But because my name

[00:16:20] is getting trash. Part of the prophecy was that he was going to make their hearts like they were going to be the most perfect, perfect people in the whole perfect fucking world. We're not there yet,

[00:16:29] though. Right. Like he wasn't going to bring him back until that was supposed to happen when he brought them back. Yeah. But then they started making fun of them. Oh, God. He's couldn't handle it.

[00:16:38] I was like, no. Okay. Oh, my am powerful. Watch. Watch. So he's saying, I'm going to bring you back not for your sake. But for the sake of my holy name, would you have profane

[00:16:53] among the nations where you have gone? I will show the holiness of my great name which has been profane among the nations. The name you have profane among them. Yeah. Then the nations will know

[00:17:04] that I am the Lord. So declares this offering Lord. First he's going to destroy people that shows that he is the Lord and then he's going to save people and that's going to show him that

[00:17:14] he's the show that he's the Lord. And next till I don't know what do a fucking magic trick, I you know actually a magic trick would probably be better at least then there's something happening

[00:17:24] that I can see that like if it was like true magic right, I'd be able to see it. Yeah. But this is silly politics and bullshit. Yeah. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord when I

[00:17:36] improved holy through you before their eyes for I will take you out of the nations. I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. If I were call correctly

[00:17:49] was actually Cyrus that did that wasn't it? Yeah, I think you're right. Not God. Yep. Yep. Okay. I will sprinkle clean water on you and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your impurities

[00:18:00] and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you. There you go. I wonder if that's where like holy water came from. Properly in the like the baptism of

[00:18:10] the holy water. That sounds not convenient. But yeah baptism. Right. Right. Yeah, I wonder. That's interesting. Well, clean water. We, and then you'll be clean. Right. I will give you a new

[00:18:23] heart and put a new spirit in you. I will remove from you your heart of stone. Okay. And give you a heart of flesh. Here it is. He's fixing the people. Yeah. He's just doing it sooner than

[00:18:34] we thought he was going to because he was like the thinking, fun to me. Well, the reason behind why he's doing it obviously is very not good. Yeah. Like this is not a good reason to fix your people.

[00:18:46] You are fixing your people out of vanity. And if you can fix them because your disturbed at what other people think of you as a God, why couldn't you definitely could have fixed them before they got fucking murdered conquered and whatever. Yeah. Right. They give it. There

[00:19:02] is no actual good reason as to why you're fixing them. Right. Which means that you had no good reason for destroying them. Exactly. So like either way, you're doing this action for a bad

[00:19:14] reason. And that means that you're decision to do the bad thing where you murdered a lot of them and disperse them across all of all the places was bad to begin with. You, you fucked up. Yeah.

[00:19:26] God fucked up. You have a mercurial temperament. Your petty and capricious and you are unreliable and you are, your mood turns on a dime. Yeah. Don't like it. No. And I will put my spirit in you and

[00:19:43] move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. Oh, okay. Then you will live in the land. I gave you your ancestors. You will be my people and I will be your God. I will save you

[00:19:55] from all your uncleanness. The uncleanness that I put there in the first place. Yeah. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and we'll not bring famine upon you. That's nice. Yeah. Thank

[00:20:08] you for this time. Right. I mean, could you maybe wind back time so that, you know, my family didn't die? I'm not, I can't, I don't know how much we can rely on his promises though. I really don't think

[00:20:19] that he holds up his end of the bargain very often. And moreover, he comes up with excuses not to. Right. He's like, whatever you guys are fucking up, I'm doing this. Exactly. So or, but he never

[00:20:31] he never, this is not like I just kind of say it one more time. He is not fixing this for the right fucking reasons. He's a bad guy. There is no, this isn't holy. This isn't, this is just bullshit. Yeah.

[00:20:44] This is not any reason to justify what you did in the first place. Right. Like if you, if you were playing on a doing this because you're your, you're, you're mad at how these other

[00:20:54] nations see you, that's crazy, man. You, you just, why do you need validation from these other people? Yeah. Like why you worried about them? You're good for fuck's sake. Why are you worried about

[00:21:06] them? But bothers me why, like he fixed his people because of this reason. That's what bothers me. Yeah. It's not that he, it's not that he did the action, look, the action in the first place

[00:21:17] was bad enough. Okay. But if you're gonna do something that drastic to your, your people who consider you, your, their God. Yeah. Then you should have a equal if not better reason to bring them

[00:21:30] back and say that these are now your people and they must have learned that they should have learned to lesson. Right. But no, you're just changing their hearts, would you could have done it at any point? Exactly. According to you, according to you, according to this Bible,

[00:21:44] yeah. That's what you cut it on at any point. In canon. And that's why the story sucks. Yeah. I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field so that you will no longer

[00:21:54] suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine. I worry about you suffer, you're attitude and your reputation suffering because of the famine that you're going through. I don't worry about the famine itself. Yeah. This is all about the reputation. Yeah. Oh my God, this is so stupid.

[00:22:13] It is. Then you will remember your evil ways and wicked deeds and you will load yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. I need an ashrappel. I'm telling you, right? Right. I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake to clear

[00:22:29] us the sovereign more. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct people of Israel. Exclamation point. Okay. This is what the sovereign Lord says. On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns and the ruins will be rebuilt. That's great. The desolate land

[00:22:49] will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who passed through it. But it wasn't too desolate for the Eidamites to take it out. Yeah. Exactly. But we're still claiming that it was.

[00:23:00] But he destroyed the Eidamites or whatever. He's saying he's going to destroy the Eidamites for taking over that desolate land that was also fruitful at the time when the Eidamites took it over. Right.

[00:23:10] You said no when you said no. You have to know. I can't track of all the fucking lies that are happening in these prophecies. Like it's just like whatever they want to say at any given. It's

[00:23:17] just like Trump. Like it's going to say at any point, you just say whatever the fuck you want to say and that's the way it's supposed to be and that's what we're supposed to believe that you

[00:23:25] did. And I'm not that's not a good answer. No. It's not an acceptable answer. It's not especially in a Bible that is supposed to be the word of an infallible God that we're supposed to worship

[00:23:37] and believe is given us after life and you know, making everything on this entire earth the way it is. He's supposed to be good and holy. He's not good. I could do, I mean, I don't give a

[00:23:47] fuck if he's good and holy. I just want to know that he is powerful enough to at least say things in a manner that makes sense. Like he can't even say a sentence. He can't even keep his back straight

[00:23:59] from one fucking paragraph to the next. And the Christians don't care. Then the Christians don't care. And that's weird. Yeah. I'm like, y'all are weird. And then they will say there's this,

[00:24:10] it's all true. You're reading it wrong. I'm like the fuck I am. It's literally the same wording that he's using desolation in one place where he used fruit. Like it was, I just I can't. I can't.

[00:24:24] So your map that it doesn't make sense even though we went in knowing it probably. No, I know we don't look. I know the Bible does, I've always known that there is some bullshit regarding the

[00:24:35] Bible. And obviously as we've been going through here, I've learned more and more how much bullshit is in the Bible, right? But this whole chapter right here and the last chapter has included things

[00:24:48] that are just bulb-faced lies with regard to how God claimed things went down. And more over, they are in back-to-back paragraphs half the time. And it's just, you can't ignore this amount

[00:25:03] of just wrong. It's so fucking wrong. It's very wrong. And the actions he's taking are morally bankrupt. And it's just not, it's not, this is not a God that I wouldn't even want to worship if he was a God.

[00:25:17] It's not a good book. It's really not. They will say this land that was laid waste has become like the Garden of Eden, the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed,

[00:25:32] are not fortified and inhabited. It's just really mad though because you know, Egypt and what was the other place they had the better trees and the the the the the the the the the the the the

[00:25:40] area. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like it's still it might be like Garden of Eden guys, but you didn't get the best place. Yeah, so then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord

[00:25:55] have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate? I the Lord have spoken and I will do it. Hmm, okay. This is what the sovereign Lord says. All right, yeah. Once again,

[00:26:08] I will heal to Israel's plea and do this for them. Well, he was just saying he was the one that was pissed off that whatever fuck. He's so excited. I will make their people as numerous as sheep as numerous

[00:26:24] as the flux for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed festivals. You've lowered his numbers quite a bit. He was used to say sand and stars now we're in the sea. Now just that she's yeah,

[00:26:34] count sheep before you go to sleep. People run out no doubt. So will the ruined cities be filled with flux of people then they will know that I am the Lord? That's not what I'm that's not how I'm

[00:26:48] getting taken this exactly. Yeah, nothing. Okay, I don't I think I got most out most of the things out that I wanted to say in that chapter because it was pissed me off the whole way through. Yes. But

[00:27:02] I this is it's just not right. This this book is not right. It's not correct. It's not good. It's not it's not a god that anybody should want to follow. There's nothing here that makes any God

[00:27:14] damn sense. None. So I don't know what else to say. Like that with that whole chapter was just a bunch of contradictions about how he's going to act and and really bad reasoning as to why

[00:27:26] he was doing the actions that he was doing. Right. Like that was just a horrible chapter where when it comes to trying to say that this God is a powerful or good or just anything. He's not

[00:27:42] any of those things. He's just dumb. He's just bad and more. Right. And moreover, it's just as he he'll just place him this onto this God that that action is that he wants to see. So the Seeky will be

[00:27:53] yep. All right. Well, that was a Zekeel chapter 36. Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with Zekeel chapter 37. All right. We'll see you then. Bye.