Jeremiah Chapter 29: Atheist Bible Study

[00:00:00] Hey everyone, husband here. And I'm wife! If you've been listening to us then you know

[00:00:08] we're all about reading the Bible and reacting to it on our first read through. Custwords

[00:00:12] crying laughing and more. We're passionate about creating a podcast that takes the sanctity

[00:00:17] out of the sacred text and simply stating it as we see it. But we can't do it without

[00:00:20] your help. We're asking for your support to help us keep this podcast going. There are

[00:00:25] two ways you can donate. Text SACDIS that's S-A-C-D-I-S to 53555 if you're in the U.S.

[00:00:33] with a one time donation. Any amount helps. Or, if you'd rather start a sustaining

[00:00:37] membership, sign up on our Patreon page at patreon.com forward slash sacrilegious discourse. Membership

[00:00:43] levels start as low as $2 a month. We are amazed and grateful for our fans that support

[00:00:48] us now and you can become one too. With your support we can keep sacrilegious discourse

[00:00:52] alive and well for years to come. So please donate today. Text SACDIS to 53555 if

[00:00:59] you're in the U.S. Or sign up for our Patreon page at patreon.com forward slash sacrilegious

[00:01:05] discourse. Welcome to sacrilegious discourse. I'm husband and I'm wife. Together we're

[00:01:20] reading the Bible for the very first time. We grew up without religion and wanted to know

[00:01:24] what all the fuss was about. Well, what do we learn so far? That God is a dick and apparently

[00:01:30] some people believe in talking donkeys. We're not trying to pass ourselves off as experts.

[00:01:34] Nope, we're just reading the Bible for the first time and giving our first take reaction.

[00:01:39] If you'd like to join us in this venture, you might consider starting at episode 1. Otherwise

[00:01:43] jump in wherever you like. Alright, let's go read the Bible. Yeah, let's get to it.

[00:01:50] Husband wife, do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today?

[00:01:55] Well, yesterday we read Jeremiah chapter 28. We did. And in that chapter, Jeremiah was confronted

[00:02:04] by Hannah Nia in a like a profit face off, you know, right? Battle of the profits. I don't

[00:02:11] know whatever you want to call it. Right? And Hannah Nia was like everything's going to be fine.

[00:02:16] I'm going to bring all the profits back or all the all the kings and people and things back

[00:02:20] and vessels back, right? Yeah. It's all going to be cool. And Jeremiah is like, we'll see.

[00:02:25] He was like, that's just like your opinion, man. Right, right. And then Jeremiah kind of slept on

[00:02:31] it or went away and came back and then God talked Jeremiah, of course, you know, because God does

[00:02:35] that apparently. And Jeremiah comes back and basically tells him that God says, hey, Hannah Nia,

[00:02:43] you're going to die in a year and fuck off for being a false prophet within the year.

[00:02:48] Within the year. He died two months later. Yeah, right. So that happened, I guess. I mean,

[00:02:58] within canon, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was Jeremiah chapter 28. Sure,

[00:03:03] spark was, which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 29. All right, let's do this.

[00:03:08] Oh, Gidoki. Okay. So we are getting into Jeremiah chapter 29, which is a bit of an odd one.

[00:03:25] An odd one? Yeah. As opposed to the rest of the Bible, that is very normal and reasonable

[00:03:30] and equitable with regard to how they treat people. Okay. It's an odd one with regard to Jeremiah.

[00:03:38] Okay, okay. Sure. Because are you familiar with the term epistles or epithelatory?

[00:03:44] Or I think I've heard that before is it's epistles not apostles, right? Correct.

[00:03:49] Okay, it's epistles. Okay. Just making sure there is a word apostol. Yeah, no, no, I know.

[00:03:54] A different thing. I always get confused when I hear them said because I don't know what the

[00:03:58] difference is exactly. Sometimes an apostle makes an epistle. Oh, man. That's a pisser.

[00:04:06] So the apostles were followers of Jesus or what the fuck out? Yeah, okay. Yeah, I kind of

[00:04:11] knew that bit and I've heard epistle before but I don't know. Epistles are letters. Oh, we did

[00:04:16] we talked about this before. Talk about this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like the, I remind me because

[00:04:22] I'm struggling. They're just letters. It's just letters. So there are some novels that are

[00:04:28] referred to as epistle novels or epistleatory because the whole novel is nothing but letters

[00:04:35] between the characters. Got it. Okay, so when we get to the New Testament, a lot of those chapters

[00:04:42] are going to just be epistles. Got it. Just be letters from the apostles to the church or from

[00:04:48] the apostles to the people. Oh, not letters is in like the letter of the alphabet but letters

[00:04:53] is in a letter to a person. Yes. Okay. Yes. Like mail. Got it. Like snail mail. Right, right. Yeah.

[00:05:01] You got mail. Have you though? Have you? So that's the first thing. Okay, this chapter has two letters

[00:05:11] in it. Okay, one is from Jeremiah to the people in Babylon that were exiled there. He's, oh, okay.

[00:05:23] I thought you were going to tell me who's communicating with Nebuchadnezzar and then I was like, yeah,

[00:05:27] that's right. He's communicating with him because he's going to bring, you know, he's trying to make

[00:05:30] peace with him. I mean, who knows? Maybe he sent two letters. We just don't know it. You know, I don't

[00:05:36] know. The other one is from Jeremiah to the people that are left behind in Judah. Okay,

[00:05:44] and it refers to a letter that was written to one of the governors. Got it. Okay. So that's the first note.

[00:05:52] Sure. Okay. The second note is this book is numbered as Jeremiah 36 were in 29, but this is

[00:06:00] numbered as Jeremiah 36 in the Septuagint, a Greek book. Okay. The Greek translation. So again,

[00:06:07] out of order. Yes. As far as some books are concerned now I would have a question about that is

[00:06:13] so the Septuagint does it have the same amount of chapters or are there more chapters or like what's

[00:06:19] the deal with that? I'd have to look more into the Septuagint itself. Okay. I know what it is. It's

[00:06:26] the Greek translation of the Bible. Sure. From early days? I guess I'm mostly what I'm getting

[00:06:32] as I'm curious what causes that offset of where the chapters fall because it seems like it could be

[00:06:38] because there's something else thrown in there or something like I said, I have no idea. I would

[00:06:43] have to look that up. Okay. At some point probably when we finish at least the Old Testament,

[00:06:50] if not the New Testament as well. Yeah. I would think that would be a topic that we would cover.

[00:06:55] What is up with the Volgate which is the... Is that the Roman or no, the Latin? The Volgate is the Latin

[00:07:03] translation. Got it. Which I refer to in my notes less often. Sure. But then there's

[00:07:11] the Septuagint as the Greek translation. So we've got all of these super early translations running

[00:07:16] around. Right. And then since then all of these other modern day ones. Got it. And they don't

[00:07:22] always match up with the old old stirs. Right. No, I get that. And you know some of this stuff like

[00:07:28] the intricacies of how everything breaks down with regard to translations and everything else is

[00:07:34] definitely something I want to dig into at a later point after we get done reading the Bible. Yeah.

[00:07:39] And there's so much intriguing stuff there that I know is there because I've kind of dug into it

[00:07:44] a little bit already. Yeah. But it's something like we're going to be talking about biblical shit for

[00:07:50] a long time. Yes. I mean we had we had dreams, thoughts, ideas early on of maybe jumping into some

[00:08:00] other biblical books. Right. And so I'm sorry, some other religious texts. Yes. Right. And I'm not

[00:08:05] saying that that's completely out of the picture. But I think that we didn't really understand what

[00:08:11] we were getting into when we were thinking we were going to move on to other things. Yeah. I think

[00:08:17] like you said, we didn't realize how much was missing from the Bible that we are reading. Right.

[00:08:22] And that is the standard Bible. Like we didn't know that there's books left out in other branches of

[00:08:29] Christianity or Judaism. We didn't know that there were so many topics that refer to other topics

[00:08:36] within what we're reading. Right. And I think because we're taking this project to the full extent,

[00:08:41] right? We're reading every chapter, every page, everything. I think that we owe it to ourselves

[00:08:47] and to our listeners to dive as deep as we can into this after we're done with it. Yeah.

[00:08:52] Like I think that is definitely something that we need to do. Yeah. Before we move on to any other

[00:08:57] religious texts. Yeah. Because I know like reading the Kram was something high on our list that

[00:09:01] we want to do at some point. I mean, but that is so far eventually at this point that I don't know

[00:09:08] that we might die before we get to it. I agree. I agree. And then you know, some you and I have

[00:09:12] discussed this, but like with regard to why we're doing the Bible specifically and first and so much,

[00:09:19] it is what is relevant to us. You know, in that selfish right? But it's also relevant to

[00:09:26] our country that we live in because that's what yeah, that's what shaping American politics.

[00:09:32] And it's what politicians today are saying shape our country. And Western culture at large,

[00:09:39] it's not just the US. It's you know, Europe and you know, other countries too. It's not just the US,

[00:09:44] but it definitely affects us here where we live, where we reside much more than other religions.

[00:09:50] And that's not to say that they don't deserve ridicule and and you know, some tearing apart with

[00:09:57] regard to how they phrase things, they definitely do. And I know that as well. But it's so hard like

[00:10:03] this we have to cover this. We have to cover these things because this is what we started with

[00:10:07] and we have to finish it. So I always like this way off topic. I was like, but I'm down a little

[00:10:13] unravel hole here. I know. I always like when people on like Twitter of old would say stuff like

[00:10:19] cover the Korean or elsewhere coward all the time. And I'm like, what how am I coward for? I'm not

[00:10:25] there yet. It's usually a Christian. And they're like, why aren't you? They're called, they want to

[00:10:31] call you names is what I was going to do. They know why you're covering it. They know why it's important

[00:10:36] to us. They just want you to admit they want, they want to call you names. They want to call you a coward.

[00:10:42] They want to say you wouldn't do this to any other religion. They want to feel, they want to feel that

[00:10:46] they are being picked on. Yes. You know, that they are being targeted. And I'm like, oh sweetheart,

[00:10:52] you are. You and every other religion. Yes. Yes, we are picking on all of you when you really think

[00:10:58] about it though, how many atheists are there with regard to how many Christians there are and how much

[00:11:04] bullshit do we deal with coming at us from Christianity versus how much they actually deal with that's not

[00:11:11] self-inflicted but that's not self-inflicted coming from atheists towards them right. They don't

[00:11:16] really have to deal with atheists coming at them in the real world. Right. They have to deal with

[00:11:20] podcasts like ours and social media but they seek us out. Yes. They seek out that that criticism

[00:11:29] because they want to feel like they're being criticized. And that's what's going on is we don't

[00:11:34] go knocking on their fucking doors. Right. We don't go yelling in the streets. We don't wear

[00:11:38] fucking atheist gear out and about general. I'm not saying we do. Don't we do. But not nearly as much

[00:11:44] as Christians do. Right. And we are advocating for various atheistic principles that need to be

[00:11:54] recited in schools. Right. You know, like there is no God. We must say it every day with our hands

[00:12:00] on our hearts before flags. No, there is no God. Everybody say it. Right. Like we're not doing that.

[00:12:06] Other than we don't want God as part of our government. Right. We aren't pushing any atheistic

[00:12:12] ideas on to people. That's what that was my point. Right. I'm like, no, I know. I'm like, if you're

[00:12:17] going to do that, if you're going to put prayer in school, I would like to demand that we also add

[00:12:22] there is no God in school. Yeah. Sure. I mean, if that's what we're doing, if we're making

[00:12:28] children have to be brainwashed one direction, let's go ahead and then there is no God. There

[00:12:36] is a God. God's an elephant. God is this God is that what? Yeah, I mean, they should have the right

[00:12:41] to I mean, if you're going to do prayer in school, somebody should have the right to draw a satanic

[00:12:44] circle and you know, light some candles and worship Satan. You know, I mean, I'm just saying like

[00:12:49] if you're going to do it, you got to go all in. I wish I could go back in time and just

[00:12:55] like screen bills above bills above bills above through every single prayer that I ever had to

[00:13:00] sit through that was in a public arena. Right. That was, you know, it was basically forced upon me.

[00:13:06] Well, and that, you know, as I've gotten older in my life, I never I don't think I really

[00:13:13] and I didn't understand how much it was just present in even my school. Like, I had teachers that

[00:13:20] would read, I remember looking back that I had teachers that would read some religiously oriented

[00:13:26] things in school and things like, you know, this is we're talking a long time ago, but still

[00:13:30] not that long ago historically speaking. Right. Right. But it was so normal that it didn't even occur to

[00:13:36] you that that's probably not a thing that should happen. Well, then I, you know, I've talked about

[00:13:40] this before I grew up in a small town and you know, religion was very prevalent in our town. So

[00:13:46] it wasn't abnormal to talk about religion in general. I mean, you had like 20 streets and there's

[00:13:51] five churches on every 20 years. We probably had 20. Like the whole spread out. Yeah, right. In

[00:13:57] the quote unquote downtown area, like your whole town as a whole has like 20 streets on it and there's

[00:14:03] like five churches within those 20 streets. Yeah. Fuck off. Yeah. No, it's it's insane. Well, that

[00:14:11] and I can remember when we first got together. Yeah. Um, I got my associates degree in 2006

[00:14:21] and you were there at the graduation ceremony. Yeah. And we talked about this later how before

[00:14:27] the graduation ceremony, and this is a public community college. Yeah. And they did a prayer.

[00:14:34] And I remember saying at the time that made me so uncomfortable and we hadn't really,

[00:14:39] we were just getting together. So we hadn't really talked about religion and stuff and you were

[00:14:44] like, and bother me because it was still so like, yep, that's what we do. And I'm like, but do we

[00:14:51] though? Which is really funny because you were way more hardcore atheist at that time. I was. Yeah.

[00:14:57] Yeah. You were so used to this is just what we do. It just didn't occur to you that, you know,

[00:15:03] you don't have to actually do the prayer or respect it or whatever. Like you could actually

[00:15:11] sit down during it if you want to or whatever. Right, right. So anyway, we're getting way

[00:15:17] out of here. Yeah. Okay. So I've gone over my first couple notes here. They're letters. Yeah.

[00:15:25] Okay. Yeah. Um, I wanted to make one more note before we start, which is with regard to them having

[00:15:32] removed all of the like leaders and skilled people and stuff. Yeah. Um, and leaving the

[00:15:38] drags of society behind, right? That that was a super common method of keeping like quelling

[00:15:49] the the violence in a community. Sure. Um, they did that. They learned that skill from the

[00:15:55] Assyrians to reduce the possibility of a rebellion. I mean, it still holds true to they. A lot of

[00:16:00] societies when they are taking over a country or fighting them, they will try to take out the elites

[00:16:06] first because well, yeah. Now they just kill them back back then what they were doing was taking

[00:16:12] them right? Yeah. So all right. So back to the actual chapter, which we are now going to read,

[00:16:20] Jeremiah chapter 29. Okay. Okay. So now these are the words of the letter that Jeremiah,

[00:16:27] the prophet sent from Jerusalem to the remainder of the elders who were carried away captive.

[00:16:34] Okay. To the priest, the prophets and all the people who never could nether had carried away captive

[00:16:39] from Jerusalem to Babylon. Okay. So I guess I didn't really need to make that a note since it says

[00:16:44] that in the first verse. Sure. But I didn't read it. I didn't know ahead of time. Right.

[00:16:48] Whatever. Yeah. Okay. This happened. Oh, I'm so sorry. parentheses voice. This happened after

[00:16:55] Jack and I are the king, the queen mother, the unix, the princes of Judah and Jerusalem,

[00:17:00] the craftsman and the smiths had departed from Jerusalem. Okay. And of parentheses voice. Yeah.

[00:17:07] Okay. So that's just a note about when this shit happened. Mm hmm. And yeah. So then it goes on,

[00:17:16] the letter was sent by the hand of Alassa, the son of Shafan and Gamaraya, the son of Hylkaya,

[00:17:26] whom Zedakaya, King of Judah sent to Babylon to Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon saying dot, dot, dot.

[00:17:34] I feel like it's unnecessary to mention the whole line of names when you're just sending a

[00:17:38] fucking letter. Yeah. You sent a letter. Who sent it? Okay. Great. Awesome. To be fair,

[00:17:43] like they're trying to include letterhead. Yeah. Which, you know, since this is an audio format,

[00:17:49] I guess is helpful or whatever. Sure. Because if you were just reading it to yourself,

[00:17:53] you would just buzz over it. You wouldn't even look at it, right? Right. Yeah. But we're trying to

[00:17:58] read every word and anyway. So I did want to point out where it says the son of Shafan. Uh-huh.

[00:18:06] Do you remember that one guy that stood up for Jeremiah? I keep forgetting our guy's name. Like

[00:18:15] who's the main character again? I do kind of vaguely remember that yet. That we were like, oh he's a

[00:18:20] advocate and he's yeah, respected in his community or whatever has a man of influence. Right.

[00:18:28] So the letter was sent by the hand of Alassa, the son of Shafan. Alassa was his brother because

[00:18:35] the son of Shafan was also that dude. Oh okay. All right. So yeah. I mean small beans like who really

[00:18:42] cares? But it does put a little bit of context that okay. So basically a friend was delivering this

[00:18:48] letter. Right. Yeah. Um, two these people in Babylon. Yes. Okay. Mm-hmm. Thus says the lord of

[00:18:57] hosts, the god of Israel to all who were carried away captive, who might have caused to be carried away

[00:19:03] from Jerusalem to Babylon. He says he says, says, says, says, says, says, eat. He says, right? Quotes with

[00:19:11] right. Okay, so this is Jeremiah telling the people in Babylon that God says build houses and dwell in

[00:19:19] them, plant gardens and eat their fruit, take wives and beget sons and daughters and take wives for

[00:19:26] your sons and give your daughters to husbands so that they may bear sons and daughters that you

[00:19:32] may be increased there and not diminished and seek the peace of the city where I have caused you

[00:19:38] to be carried away captive and pray to the lord for it. For in it, for in its peace you will have

[00:19:45] peace. So the point of this is he's telling his people, y'all need to settle in for the long haul.

[00:19:52] You're not coming back tomorrow. Right. Don't not get married or whatever. Populate and get

[00:19:58] stronger and you know just make the best of what you can. Yes. So you know don't be expecting that

[00:20:04] I'm bringing you home. Right. Really in it for the long haul. Yeah.

[00:20:09] For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel do not let your prophets and your

[00:20:14] diviners who are in your midst deceive you nor listen to your dreams which you cause to be dreamed.

[00:20:20] So that indicates that there were some false prophets that got taken away with them. Right. Which is

[00:20:26] interesting. And we're also maybe they were sending letters saying the exact opposite to them. Yeah,

[00:20:32] that's what I'm saying. Yeah. He's saying, I know that there are some false prophets there with you

[00:20:36] guys. Oh, you're saying and you're probably hearing letters from false prophets. Okay. Got you.

[00:20:43] I wasn't following you. Right. So don't believe them. Right. Okay. Yeah. For they prophecy falsely to

[00:20:49] you in my name, I have not sent them says the Lord. I just didn't occur to me that they would still be

[00:20:55] receiving news from false prophets. Again, how are they supposed to know their false prophets?

[00:21:01] Right. And ultimately, if you are a false prophet, right? Yeah. How are you supposed to know your

[00:21:08] your your false prophet yourself? If you believe you're getting the message from God,

[00:21:12] then you believe you're getting the message from God. I don't know what to fucking tell you.

[00:21:16] I'm hearing a fucking voice or I'm having these fucking dreams. Much the same question I have as to

[00:21:21] what exactly is being touched by God or what is what is called? Being called and all this

[00:21:26] crap. Like what does that even fucking mean? Right. I could interpret it in a way that would make

[00:21:30] sense to me if I wanted to. Like, if I wanted to be religious, right? I could make something

[00:21:36] make sense that I could make it make sense to me, right? I could say I could take beautiful things

[00:21:41] that happen or things that are weird that happen. You know and say that's God. Right.

[00:21:49] Right. But I don't believe that. I don't think that that's true. So

[00:21:53] if they believe it and then they feel like they're getting the message that they should send,

[00:21:58] then who's to say they don't actually believe they're telling the word of God, you know?

[00:22:02] Here's here's maybe a good analogy. I think that they feel like and believers today for

[00:22:10] that matter feel like it's a physical thing that if you experience it, you'll know it, right? Sure.

[00:22:17] Like it would be like trying to describe an orgasm, for example, to somebody. Right. And then

[00:22:24] that somebody experiences something and they're not quite sure and they're like, was that an orgasm?

[00:22:31] Right. And like the person who knows what an orgasm feels like multiple times over is like,

[00:22:36] oh, honey, if you have one, you'll fucking know. You will know and you won't be asking was that?

[00:22:43] But but also with regard to the Bible though, I mean, the social pressures

[00:22:48] that are there with being religious, right? And I know this from personal experience.

[00:22:54] It's immense. There's an immense amount of pressure on people to feel these things and to know

[00:23:01] these things. Right. And so when you are looked at as odd for not falling in line with these ideas,

[00:23:10] you start saying, okay, how can I make myself feel this? Because obviously I'm the weird one here.

[00:23:17] But you're not. But you're made to feel that way. Yeah. And so I think a lot of people get caught up in

[00:23:26] the whole social structure, which then can sometimes cause these experiences that are

[00:23:32] godly experiences or messages or different things like that. They cause it through just,

[00:23:41] I don't know. I don't really know what there's words for those things. I just can't come up with

[00:23:45] them right now. I don't know what they are. So I don't know either. I know what I'm thinking.

[00:23:50] I'm just saying, you know, like it's people are people come up with the idea that they have felt

[00:23:56] the touch of God because they are indoctrinated to believe that that should happen to them. Right.

[00:24:03] And so they then in turn experience that which they thought that they should experience because

[00:24:11] they're like psychosimtomatic kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

[00:24:14] exactly placebo effect. If you tell yourself all day that you feel sick when you're not actually sick,

[00:24:22] a lot of times by the end of the day, you actually will feel sick. You know, you can, you can

[00:24:26] will yourself into different states of being just by wanting to be that way. Right.

[00:24:32] You know, it doesn't make it true. It doesn't make it right. But there are things that you can do

[00:24:38] that can make you feel different ways about things. Sure. Sure.

[00:24:43] All right, to continue. Yeah. Sorry. We are getting way sidetracked today.

[00:24:46] We had a lot to say. You know what I think it was too? We didn't see each other a lot today.

[00:24:50] And so we didn't get to like, yak. Right. And so we're kind of like, oh, thank you listeners.

[00:24:55] You're you're letting us be married at each other and have those discussions that we have.

[00:25:00] Yeah. Yeah. So this is appreciate you guys. Yeah. Yeah. All right. For thus says the Lord.

[00:25:05] Okay. Okay. After 70 years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform my good word.

[00:25:13] And that you'll probably be dead. Right. But you know, people that are still there that you made.

[00:25:17] So and cause you to return to this place. Right. Yeah. This this place right here. Yeah.

[00:25:23] Judah, whatever. Judah. Yeah. For I know the thoughts that I think toward you says the Lord.

[00:25:29] I would hope he does. I know my thoughts that I think toward God. Do you know your thoughts that

[00:25:34] you think do you know my thoughts that I think toward God? I think I know. Yeah.

[00:25:38] I think I know your thoughts as well. Probably too. Okay. Thoughts of peace and not of evil to give

[00:25:43] you a future and a hope. Fuck off with that because you are not trying to give them peace.

[00:25:49] You could easily give them peace, God. Yeah. You know, you are not thinking of peace towards

[00:25:55] your people. Right. Right. Then you will call upon me and go and pray to me. And I will listen to

[00:26:02] you at that point. I will listen to you, he says. But not now. You got no chance now.

[00:26:06] 70 years from now then we'll talk just have lots of sex and babies and then we'll talk in 70 years.

[00:26:11] And you will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart.

[00:26:16] I will be found by you says the Lord and I will bring you back from your captivity.

[00:26:22] Our gang. I will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you.

[00:26:28] Shattered, smattered, smothered, covered. Right. Says the Lord and I will bring you to the place from

[00:26:34] which I caused you to be carried away captive. Okay. Because you have said the Lord has raised

[00:26:42] up prophets for us in Babylon. Therefore thus says the Lord concerning the king who sits on the throne

[00:26:49] of David concerning all the people who dwell in this city and concerning your brethren who have not

[00:26:54] gone out with you into captivity. So now he's talking about the people left at home.

[00:26:59] Thus says the Lord of hosts, behold, I will send on them the sword, the famine and the pestilence

[00:27:06] and we'll make them like rotten figs. Remember the figs? Yeah. That cannot be eaten. They are so bad.

[00:27:13] Got it. So he's like don't go thinking that y'all got kidnapped because you're rotten.

[00:27:17] The people that got left behind are the rotten ones. Right. Right. And I will pursue them with the

[00:27:23] sword with famine and with pestilence. And I will deliver them to travel right here in River City

[00:27:29] among all the kingdoms of the earth. This is God is literally talking to them telling them hey you

[00:27:36] know your people over there that you are, they're your people. I'm going to kill them all. Yeah.

[00:27:40] But you guys still have a chance. So yeah. Chalax. It's fun. It's fun. Don't worry about them. Yeah.

[00:27:45] You guys are garbage. You know how your sister got kidnapped but you didn't or no vice versa. You

[00:27:52] know how you got kidnapped but your sister's still at home because she's a piece of shit. Yeah.

[00:27:57] Like that's the way that goes. Sorry. This also feels a little classist. It is super.

[00:28:01] These are the people they got kidnapped, you know? We're taking away. Oh there's the poor. They're

[00:28:06] just the homeless. Right. Yeah. They're just the drugs society. They suck whatever. Right. Yeah.

[00:28:12] To be at curse and astonishment, a hissing and a reproach among all the nations where I've driven

[00:28:19] them because they have not heated my words says the Lord which I sent to them by my servants,

[00:28:25] the prophets rising up early and sending them. Neither when you heed says the Lord that's why

[00:28:31] you got kidnapped fuckers. Right. Yeah. But they get treated better though because they're rich.

[00:28:36] Yeah. So and skilled. Right. And skilled. Some of them are Smiths and whatnot. Some of them are

[00:28:41] artisans. Convenient though, isn't it? Right. It is. Therefore hear the word of the Lord.

[00:28:47] All you of the captivity whom I have sent from Jerusalem to Babylon. This is like the longest letter ever.

[00:28:55] Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel concerning. Oh okay. I read notes about these guys

[00:29:02] concerning a hab the son of Kaliah and Zedakaya the son of Me Isaiah who prophecy a lie to you in my name.

[00:29:10] So he's calling out two false prophets in particular. Okay. And both of them were named after evil

[00:29:16] kings. One was an evil king of Judah. One was an evil king of Israel. Got it. Yeah. A hab and

[00:29:23] Zedakaya. Okay. He's like these fuckers listen. Yeah. They are lying. Behold, I will deliver them into

[00:29:30] the hand of Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon and he shall slay them before your eyes. Mm. And

[00:29:37] because of them, a curse shall be taken up by all the captivity of Judah who are in Babylon saying

[00:29:43] the lower make you like Zedakaya and a hab whom the king of Babylon roasted in the fire.

[00:29:51] So he's like their names are going to be turned into a curse. You watch. Sure. Okay. Yeah.

[00:29:56] Because they have done this graceful things in Israel have committed adultery with their

[00:30:02] neighbors wives. They fuck those fuckers and have spoken lying words in my name which I have not

[00:30:09] commanded them. Indeed, I know and am a witness says the Lord. Oh, he knows the Annie's a witness.

[00:30:16] Okay. Yeah. According to Jeremiah. Got it. Okay. Jeremiah is a peeping Tom. That's what

[00:30:22] why think God was saying he knows and he is a witness. Yeah. According to Jeremiah. Right.

[00:30:26] This isn't a letter that Jeremiah is writing. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's what I'm saying. God knows

[00:30:30] what you did. Mm. You shall also speak to Shemaah. Oh, okay. So Shemaah is a guy that wrote to like

[00:30:40] the governor or city councilor with the fuck ever in Jerusalem or Judah. Okay. Judah. And so Shemaah

[00:30:49] was like this fuck over here. Can't you do something about Jeremiah? He's so fucking annoying. Right.

[00:30:55] Okay. And so God is telling Jeremiah which Jeremiah is writing down in this letter. Yeah.

[00:31:01] You shall also speak to Shemaah the knee hell of my knee. Neel of my sorry, whatever. Okay.

[00:31:07] Saying bus speaks the Lord of hosts. The God of Israel saying you have sent letters in your name

[00:31:14] to all the people who are at Jerusalem to Zephaniah the son of Mayaziah the priest and to all the

[00:31:21] priests saying the Lord has made you priest instead of jahoy to the priest so that there should be

[00:31:27] officers in the house of the Lord over every man who is demented and considers himself a fucking

[00:31:33] prophet that you should put him in prison and in the stocks. He's like this sounds like a lot of

[00:31:38] fucking politics that I don't feel like much politics. I don't feel like God would be getting involved

[00:31:43] in specific political things. No, he wouldn't. This is all Jeremiah here. Yeah. Jeremiah is like this guy

[00:31:49] called me crazy and I'm about to do something about that. Yeah. Yeah. This is the danger. This is

[00:31:55] the danger of religion though, right? Yes. Like to take this ultimate word of this Almighty God and say

[00:32:03] this is what he said. Yeah. I said these. This is this is what God said to me and this is the way

[00:32:07] it's going to be because God. Yeah. And you can't question God. So therefore it is. Right. What?

[00:32:13] Like it's not what to tell you, but that's that's the danger. Like it's very authoritarian. It's

[00:32:18] very crazy. You called me crazy. I jotted that down in my little notebook and now I'm getting

[00:32:23] vengeance from earlier on when he called for vengeance. Apparently dude has picked up a following

[00:32:29] and his feeling is owed and is like apparently and you and you and you and and and quite possibly

[00:32:35] as things get worse and worse for the Israelites more people will be followers of Jeremiah because

[00:32:40] they're like well, apparently he's right. Yeah. You know, oopsie. Right. Right. Okay. So anyway,

[00:32:47] he's like that dude called people demented and said any old crazy person now can consider himself

[00:32:54] a prophet. You should put that dude in prison and the stocks sounds like today. Now therefore,

[00:33:01] why have you not approved Jeremiah of Anathoth who makes himself a fucking prophet to you?

[00:33:08] Why have you not done that? Right. Yeah. For he has sent to us in Babylon saying this captivity is long

[00:33:16] build houses and dwell in them and plant gardens and eat their fruit. Now Zephaniah the priest

[00:33:21] read this letter in the hearing of Jeremiah the prophet. So Jeremiah got to read that letter. Okay.

[00:33:27] Dude all wrote disclosure, huh? This is like case evidence disclosure. Yeah. He's like I read that

[00:33:33] letter that you sent. Then the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah right then there about that letter.

[00:33:41] Oh, oh yeah. Of course it did. Uh-huh saying thus as the Lord concerning

[00:33:45] Shemaah the Neal lemon the lemonhead the Neal might. Yeah. Because Shemaah has prophecy to you and

[00:33:55] I have not sent him and he has caused you to trust in a lie. Therefore says the Lord behold,

[00:34:01] I will punish Shemaah and his family. Hmm. Okay. Yeah, I've read that nasty letter that you wrote and

[00:34:08] guess what? God going getcha. I mean yeah, I gotta say Jeremiah is feeling his oats here lately.

[00:34:15] That's what I'm saying. You know, yeah. Isn't that something? Yeah. Okay. Shemaah shall not have

[00:34:21] anyone to dwell among his people nor shall he see the good that I will do for my people says the Lord

[00:34:27] because he has taught rebellion against the Lord. I don't think any end. I don't think any of them

[00:34:32] are going to see it and spend 70 years later when he's going to do good. Well, and according to

[00:34:36] and according to God and God should know everything right? Mm-hmm. So God's gonna punish all these

[00:34:42] false prophets and all these people that are doing bad you don't need to state it just do it.

[00:34:46] Right. It shows us through action. Don't just like you don't have to say that's what tells me that

[00:34:50] is not God and that it's man because Jeremiah is like I read that letter. I heard that letter that

[00:34:56] you fucking wrote about me. Right. And now I'm going to talk about God calling you out by name.

[00:35:03] Right. Personally, yeah. And I'm going to tell you what God's going to do to you. Well, it strikes me

[00:35:08] right that you have all these false prophets right that are speaking lies in God's name right?

[00:35:13] And apparently according to Jeremiah, God is aware of this right? Mm-hmm. So he went when when

[00:35:20] Hananiah confronted him in the last chapter. Mm-hmm. God smites, kills, gets rid of Hananiah within

[00:35:27] two months right? Yeah. Why doesn't God get rid of these false prophets before they ever become

[00:35:33] false prophets? Yeah. He's God. Yeah. He should be able to handle that. That should be within his realm

[00:35:39] of capabilities. What I find interesting is that only the ones that personally insult Jeremiah and

[00:35:47] get in his face are the ones that are dying. Again, this is all politics. Yeah, it's all ancient

[00:35:54] politics where people killed their enemies and or poisoned their enemies and or had other people

[00:36:00] do things to them. Mm-hmm. Or maybe they just knew that they were frail and probably we're going to

[00:36:04] die anyway. Or like in the first season of House of Cars when that guy, that fucking guy that is

[00:36:11] running, he's going to be running for president. He pushed that girl in front of the train. Yeah,

[00:36:15] that was crazy. We did not see that coming. Right? Yeah. Yeah. He pushed that fucking girl in front

[00:36:21] of the train. Yeah. Yeah. He's totally Jeremiah. Right, right? Mm-hmm. Well, I don't really have much

[00:36:28] else to say to you. I don't mind her. I mean, it was just a couple of letters. I'm the tone that

[00:36:33] the book is taking has changed for sure. Yeah. For sure. I feel differently now about Jeremiah than I

[00:36:41] did just a few chapters ago. Mm-hmm. So we'll see where this ends up going. I'll tell you this,

[00:36:46] he ain't no weeping profit now. No. He ain't at home crying now. No, he's of addictive son of a

[00:36:52] bitch. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, well, I guess we'll have to tune in and see what happens next time.

[00:36:58] So that was Jeremiah chapter 29. Sure, fuck was. Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with

[00:37:04] Jeremiah chapter 30. All right, we'll see you then. Bye.

[00:37:14] Hey wife, I guess that's the end. But husband, that's just sad. It doesn't have to be. We are on

[00:37:20] lots of social media platforms like Twitter. Our handle there is sacral edu's underscore D. For

[00:37:25] these nuts. Oh my god. Stop doing that. Anyway, we're also on Facebook, Instagram and Pinterest.

[00:37:31] There's a link to all of our social media sites at our website. Oh, we have a website. Yeah,

[00:37:36] it's sacreligiousdiscourse.com where you can also find a link to our merch shop. We have a merch shop.

[00:37:41] Yep. We have podcast theme clothing, mugs, notebooks and more as well as an atheist in science

[00:37:46] themed products. Wow, our fans should really go check that out right now. Definitely. They can get

[00:37:50] in touch with us by sending an email to sacreligiousdiscourse at gmail.com. But before they do that,

[00:37:56] we could really use some help. Oh yeah, with what? Well, it's not free running the podcast and we need

[00:38:01] some financial support in order to get better equipment, which will free up time so we can concentrate

[00:38:05] on our podcast and our fans. Okay, so what should they do? Head over to patreon.com forward slash

[00:38:11] sacraligiousdiscourse and sign up as a contributor on our podcast supporters that receive additional

[00:38:16] biweekly episodes that we record just for our Patreon numbers for as little as $2 a month.

[00:38:21] Also, we'd really appreciate it if you would like and subscribe on whatever platform you're using.

[00:38:26] And Apple Podcast reviews help us out tremendously. Like and subscribe, leave an apple review,

[00:38:31] join us on Twitter, support us on Patreon. That's a lot of instructions. Don't forget to say

[00:38:36] things. Thanks. K-Bye.

[00:38:56] For headlines, look better in adults.

[00:39:26] For more information, visit www.votoxcazmedic.com or call 877-3510-30000.