Jeremiah Wrap Up: Bible Study BY Atheists

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[00:01:47] We're almost done with Jeremiah. We are we're gonna wrap it up today. We are I'm so excited. I am

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[00:04:14] Alright, so here we are talking about the book of Jeremiah now that we've read the whole thing, right?

[00:04:21] Yes, we did we read the whole fucking verses. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so this one not verses

[00:04:29] Yeah, chapters

[00:04:31] Versus chapters

[00:04:33] You're right a verse goes in a chapter

[00:04:35] They do and a chapter goes in the book. Yes, and then the book goes in the bigger book

[00:04:39] That's right

[00:04:39] And then the green grass grows all around and around and the green grass grows all around right now you got it

[00:04:44] Okay, okay this book Jeremiah

[00:04:47] Yeah, it's intended to be a message to the Jews in exile in Babylon

[00:04:52] Okay explaining the disaster of exile as God's response to Israel's pagan worship

[00:04:59] Yeah, those those fuckers in their idols. I swear man. They never get rid of

[00:05:02] I never learn man. I need in a sheriff hole. I gotta tell you I really need one

[00:05:08] The book as a whole has been heavily edited and added to by the Prophet's followers

[00:05:15] Including who do you think Baruch Baruch Baruch Baruch is on fire

[00:05:21] You've been waiting for that again. Yeah, his companion and scribe. Yes, right? Yeah, and later

[00:05:27] Generations of Deuteronomists no shit. Yeah, but it's nice that scholars are like, yeah, that happened right

[00:05:34] We're like, oh, you got to find the exact information in the chapter

[00:05:38] They're like put this all happen with Jeremiah and you can all just fuck off Jeremiah did all this shit

[00:05:43] No, it's like no no no no no no I can tell what Jeremiah wrote and it was not this bullshit at the end right exactly

[00:05:49] Whatever I'm done. That's all

[00:05:52] So yeah, we were smart. We did good. We knew the things. Yeah, okay

[00:05:56] Yeah, there are two distinct though related versions of

[00:06:01] The book of Jeremiah one is in Hebrew and that's the

[00:06:05] Mesoretic text, okay, and we call that the MT for short

[00:06:09] Okay, and the other one is the septuagent which of course is the Greek translation, right?

[00:06:15] Right. Yeah, the separate dates of the two the Greek and the Hebrew can be suggested by the fact that the Greek one

[00:06:23] Shows concerns typical of the early Persian period

[00:06:28] While the Hebrew one shows

[00:06:31] perspectives which although known in the Persian period did not reach their full

[00:06:37] realization until the second century BCE hmm, so

[00:06:41] the

[00:06:43] Greek one actually predates the Hebrew one interesting. Yeah, okay, which well and we kind of talked about that

[00:06:51] Previous thing as far as when those things were written went into

[00:06:55] Some of that stuff. Yeah, we talked about

[00:06:57] the

[00:06:58] Parts of the Bible as a whole and how Christians picked up one after the Jews were like we don't want this one anymore

[00:07:04] Right, and then the Jews were like just kidding give it back and the Christians were like no thanks

[00:07:08] Was that a patreon episode that we did I can't remember if we did that

[00:07:12] I can't recall it was some kind of shit sometimes

[00:07:15] We do it was an informational one so it was either a Q&A or

[00:07:20] a

[00:07:21] Patreon or something to that effect. Yeah, right? Yeah, but it was an informational sure

[00:07:26] All right, so let's talk a little bit about the book structure and authorship

[00:07:30] Okay, okay

[00:07:31] So the first half of the book as we know is the earliest and the main core of Jeremiah's message

[00:07:38] Okay, so that's like the first 25 chapters that are thereabouts

[00:07:42] Yeah, okay, it is widely accepted that they

[00:07:45] Represent the teachings of Jeremiah and are the earliest stage of the book

[00:07:49] So if Jeremiah wrote any of it

[00:07:52] Are the ones that he wrote right that makes sense tracks because like even just structure wise, right?

[00:07:59] You know we didn't hear anything about brook till about midway through the book

[00:08:02] And that's one Baruch picked up the right then Baruch picked up the pen and then at the end obviously that stuff's all fucked up

[00:08:07] That stuff is all due to Ronamist. Yeah, just so you know. Oh, no, I yeah

[00:08:10] Yeah, so the next quarter of the book

[00:08:13] So we've got the big first half the half of it. Okay, and then the second half we we cut that into two chunks

[00:08:19] Okay

[00:08:20] So the next quarter of the book contains biographic material and interactions with other prophets

[00:08:27] Jeremiah's interactions with Zedekiah and the fall of Jerusalem, right? Okay, so that's all in that

[00:08:34] Middle section right now the final quarter of the book

[00:08:38] Contains oracles concerning divine punishment to the nation surrounding Israel also referred to as OAN

[00:08:45] Oracles against the nations as well as a brief appendix that actually retells second Kings

[00:08:52] That that was 52

[00:08:54] 52 again probably it's summed up

[00:08:57] Second Kings so actually if you like want to skip the entirety of second Kings

[00:09:02] You can just read chapter 52 Jeremiah and you've got a good understanding of what happened got it. Yeah

[00:09:08] So non biographical prose passages such as the temple sermon in chapter 7 and the covenant passage in chapter 11

[00:09:17] Are scattered throughout the book?

[00:09:20] So non biography stuff just like reporting on history stuff

[00:09:24] Yeah, okay, and these entries show clear affinities with the Deuteronomus

[00:09:30] Which was the school of writers and editors who shaped the series of history books from

[00:09:36] Judges to Kings so anytime you think that Jeremiah lost the thread

[00:09:41] He did because it wasn't him writing it. It was the Deuteronomy's adding shit. Got it. Okay, that makes sense

[00:09:47] So anytime it's like this doesn't sound like it's part of the story or this reads a little different

[00:09:53] Yeah, that's because it does okay

[00:09:56] Yeah, and that I that makes a lot of sense

[00:10:00] Oh, yeah, I appreciate that that final bet that final bit is all totally unlikely to have come directly from Jeremiah

[00:10:07] No shit

[00:10:10] Exactly so the book of Jeremiah grew over a long period of time also no shit

[00:10:17] Yeah, right

[00:10:17] But I mean it's not like he just sat down one day and like said I'm gonna write a book

[00:10:21] And I'm gonna take a couple weeks to put it all together and then call it done right like he wrote

[00:10:28] This book or the parts of it that he contributed to over the course of several decades, okay

[00:10:34] That's what I'm trying to say. Okay. I see I see. Okay

[00:10:36] Yeah, the Greek version looking forward to the fall of Babylon and aligning in places with second Isaiah

[00:10:44] Had already seen major redaction and may have been completed by

[00:10:49] The late exilic period which was the last half of the 6th century BCE

[00:10:54] That makes a lot of sense and you had commented on that as well

[00:10:57] Yeah, yeah

[00:10:59] The initial stages of the Hebrew version

[00:11:02] May have been written not long afterwards

[00:11:05] Although parts of chapter 33 point to a setting

[00:11:09] During post-exilic times. Okay, so basically it all was written like during

[00:11:17] The middle of it all the way through to like the end and thereafter right of the exile

[00:11:24] That's exactly kind of what we came up with as we were reading through it

[00:11:27] So I mean I'm really I appreciate this information because it just confirms a lot of my thoughts as we were going through this and

[00:11:35] It makes me feel less crazy as to what we were

[00:11:38] Also, it's like it's like the historians are coming out and they're like good job. You caught that

[00:11:44] It's good validation that like okay, we're not dumb. We're getting what's being put down. Yeah awesome

[00:11:51] You know because we're not scholars or academics as I'm fond of pointing out

[00:11:55] So anytime I figure something out and then I have somebody smart come along after me and be like yeah

[00:12:01] That is the way it was good call right feels good

[00:12:03] It does it's like a nice pat on the back

[00:12:05] But you know it I feel like based on because we've done a lot of research on our way through the Bible, right?

[00:12:10] And we've picked up a lot of knowledge about how things were written how

[00:12:15] They didn't always coincide with the exact thought like the author is change, right?

[00:12:20] Yes

[00:12:21] they don't always have the same author in the books and what have you and

[00:12:24] A lot of this information now that we have that base of knowledge from earlier books that we've read

[00:12:30] It's easier to translate when we're reading these books when we're reading Jeremiah specifically

[00:12:36] It's easier to say wait a second is this one of those things that happened prior that we learned about you know

[00:12:40] Is this one of those things that's weird and what's going on now that we know that that's a possibility

[00:12:45] We can be on the lookout for it right and that that's very helpful

[00:12:48] So I mean I think part of this is not so much that we are awesome

[00:12:53] But that we have built a base of knowledge that we are now

[00:12:57] Leaning into a little bit. So it's like when you learn basic math so that you can then move on to algebra

[00:13:03] So we are in algebra one

[00:13:06] awesome

[00:13:08] So the Deuteronomy is of course just as a reminder were a school or movement who edited the books of Joshua

[00:13:15] Judges Samuel and Kings into a more or less unified. I would say less unified

[00:13:21] History of Israel the so-called deuteronomistic history

[00:13:25] During the Jewish exile in Babylon 6th century BCE

[00:13:29] Yeah, that's when the deuteronomists were doing their thing, but apparently they dabbled another shit instead of just those yeah

[00:13:35] Yeah, so let's talk about the history of that time period this putting this list together really helped me

[00:13:44] Understand what was happening when okay? Yeah, so Jeremiah began his prophetic mission in the 13th year of King Josiah

[00:13:52] About 627 BCE

[00:13:55] Now we'll get back to that because it may have started earlier than that but okay

[00:13:59] That's like the quote-unquote a she was started when he was in the womb if you remember correctly from like the first right

[00:14:04] But we're not talking about that

[00:14:05] And it continued after the 11th year of Kings at a Kaia

[00:14:10] 586 BCE when Jerusalem went into exile sure hey, yeah, so during that whole period

[00:14:16] That's what I'm about to cover. Okay, okay

[00:14:19] So in 621 and all of these are BCE I'm gonna drop that so that I don't keep repeating myself right so in 621

[00:14:27] Josiah instituted far-reaching religious reforms. He's the one that

[00:14:33] I think it was has a Kaia maybe found a

[00:14:37] Book in in the library and was like King King look what I found it's the

[00:14:43] the early books of the

[00:14:47] Torah and we have to do this right now and Josiah was like oh shit, right?

[00:14:53] And so he was like yeah, yeah, yeah, let's let's get on the right track with God now

[00:14:56] Yeah, so he made all these reforms. He got rid of all the idols and everything okay, so that started in 621

[00:15:02] Okay, hey now the Assyrian Empire which had been dominant for two centuries

[00:15:08] Declined and fell destroyed by Babylon

[00:15:10] Okay, so that was right around that same time period yeah, okay

[00:15:13] It's capital Nineveh was captured in 612 by the Babylonians and the Meads got it

[00:15:20] Okay, yeah puts a little bit more into perspective like we forget about like all these other nations out there and what's happening

[00:15:26] Right now we're talking about the kings of Judah

[00:15:29] But I would imagine at this time like in 612 right like people in in Jerusalem and and other places in this region

[00:15:36] Yes, starting to go. Oh shit. Yes, they were absolutely

[00:15:40] And they saw a lot of the writing on the wall which you're meaning that they might have been able to

[00:15:46] prophesize yes

[00:15:50] It's just it's interesting because I

[00:15:54] Forget that other shit was happening in the world at the same time right, you know what I mean? Yeah

[00:15:58] and it changes

[00:16:01] How I perceive what's happening to these little people right and that's I told you before like this is the part that I love

[00:16:08] And that's what that's why I put this together

[00:16:09] No, I appreciate that so some scholars doubt that Jeremiah's career actually began as early as 627

[00:16:17] 626 and suggest instead that Jeremiah began to prophecy toward the end of the reign of Josiah the good king

[00:16:24] Okay, or at the beginning of the reign of Joachim in

[00:16:29] 609 okay, yeah, so they're like um, I don't know about all that maybe he didn't start till

[00:16:36] Nenever fell and then he was like

[00:16:39] Right Babylon is about to get it on

[00:16:42] And I need to be on the right side of this sure which that tracks right

[00:16:46] But it's funny that a lot of people think he didn't start until that happened because like he's

[00:16:52] It works better for the story of him being a prophet if he started back in 627 626 right because that's prior to

[00:17:00] Babylon taking over assyria

[00:17:02] Yes, right so if he was prophesizing way back then

[00:17:07] Right yeah, he knew all this shit was coming

[00:17:09] But if he started prophesizing when Assyria fell mm-hmm, then fuck you he fucking knew he knew this shit was coming

[00:17:16] He was see the writing on the wall

[00:17:17] He was a politician and he was a statesman who knew what the fuck was coming right

[00:17:23] And he wanted to be on the best side of it

[00:17:25] And that's not to say that he didn't also want his people on the best side of it

[00:17:29] I mean that may have been his intent. I don't know right

[00:17:33] We can't go back in time and assess his fucking you know what he actually was thinking so I can tell you for a fact though

[00:17:40] Dude knew what was coming and it wasn't cuz he was talking to God, right? No

[00:17:45] I would imagine he wasn't the only one that knew what was coming sure

[00:17:49] That's how we were able to have so much support right and that's why kings were having

[00:17:53] Discussions with their neighbors about what the fucking do right exactly. It's like they all see this

[00:17:59] The lava is slowly rolling toward them and they're all like scrambling around trying to should we build walls?

[00:18:06] Should we move should we team up like what the fuck do we do? Yeah, and then meanwhile, you know

[00:18:11] You've got the rest of the town that's right in the middle of where the lava is rolling going

[00:18:14] It'll be fine. This is fine

[00:18:18] So okay right after that

[00:18:20] Babylon defeated Egypt and the remnant of the Assyrians at the battle of Karshamish and made Judah a

[00:18:27] Babylonian vessel in

[00:18:29] 605 got it. Okay. Yeah, so yeah shit is starting to come downhill, right?

[00:18:34] Prior to this Egypt was kind of a superpower that had influence over

[00:18:39] Judah and Israel and what have you well at least Judah they were they were frenemy

[00:18:43] Right like they left them alone mostly kind of ruled Judah

[00:18:48] But Judah was like fuck off and Egypt was like for now right

[00:18:53] Till we need your land or something. Yeah, yeah, like whatever. Yeah. Yeah, so 605

[00:18:59] That was done and Babylon took over and was like we'll take you now. Thanks. You think okay

[00:19:04] Realizing that this battle made a great difference in the world situation

[00:19:09] Jeremiah dictated to his scribe Baruch a scroll containing all of the messages

[00:19:15] He had delivered up to this time which was read by Baruch in the temple

[00:19:20] Yeah, and so because Jeremiah was in jail. Yes, so

[00:19:24] He was either in jail or he was like

[00:19:28] Yeah, something was happily because he had been talking smack about you guys you guys right Babylon is coming you guys

[00:19:35] You guys Babylon's coming and they didn't like that. They did not like he was also pushing for them to give up

[00:19:40] Yes, so let's just be clear. Yeah, no one wants to give up

[00:19:44] No, he was pushing the wrong message at the time politically

[00:19:47] I mean he may have been pushing the right message who fucking knows but for the the people

[00:19:53] The king the people they were like nomin. He didn't read the temperature in the room

[00:19:57] You know well

[00:19:58] He knew what was cooking on the stove and he was not explaining it well enough

[00:20:03] Right, and he tried to use like God as his tactic and it didn't work

[00:20:08] Or he was truly a double agent pushing the Babylonian agenda. That's more likely right

[00:20:13] So Joaquin with help tribute from the Babylonians in about 601 BCE

[00:20:19] Okay, so remember Joaquin was only there shortly. Yeah, okay, and so he withheld tribute

[00:20:26] Okay, he was like fuck you Babylon. Yeah, that doesn't sound like a smart move. It was not King Joaquin died

[00:20:32] And was succeeded by his son Joaquin

[00:20:35] Got it. Okay, Judah's revolt was subjugated by Babylon in 597

[00:20:41] Okay, yeah, so

[00:20:43] Babylon was like that's not gonna fly we will have your tribute

[00:20:47] Thank you, right the king was taken to Babylonia with many of his subjects

[00:20:51] And that was the first time that Babylon came in and scooped out some of the folks sure okay

[00:20:56] Yeah, and then Zedekiah was placed on Judah's throne got it

[00:21:00] Okay, so that was when the puppet King came in we've talked about how it's not really fair to judge him as weak and wishy-washy

[00:21:05] When he was Babylon's placement. It's a tough place to be in right

[00:21:10] So Zedekiah the puppet King of Babylon made an alliance with Egypt as Judah revolted again

[00:21:18] Yeah, he was trying right but

[00:21:22] He wasn't real popular amongst the Jew you know

[00:21:26] He was not popular with anybody right and it wasn't fair. I really you know, I'm sorry

[00:21:32] But my heart goes out to him. Yeah, it does I can't help it. Yeah

[00:21:36] Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and its temple and exiled its king and many of the leading citizens in 586

[00:21:44] Right ending Judah's existence as an independent kingdom and bringing about the Babylonian exile

[00:21:52] Right. Okay. Yep, and then Jeremiah died around 570 we think we think

[00:21:58] likely stoned to death by his

[00:22:01] Exacerbated fellow countrymen in Egypt. He was a fucking traitor. Yes, probably because he was

[00:22:07] Yes, I mean, okay look, I'm not I'm not getting excited about Jeremiah's death, but it is

[00:22:15] It's it just solidified all the ideas that I had and I was

[00:22:22] Aside from the fact that somebody died it made me very happy

[00:22:25] Yes, you know, it's like this is this is the thing. Yeah, this is the thing that I've been saying all along totally yep

[00:22:31] Yep, okay, so the books

[00:22:34] superscription claims that Jeremiah had been active for

[00:22:38] 40 years

[00:22:40] Okay, right from the 13th year of Josiah in 627 to the fall of Jerusalem in

[00:22:47] 587 okay, and that is 40 years sure

[00:22:50] But it's clear from the last chapters of the book that he continued to speak in Egypt after the assassination of Getta

[00:22:57] Laya the dude that had been put in charge of them

[00:22:59] Yeah, the Babylonian appointed governor of Judah in 582. Okay. Okay, so what the fuck?

[00:23:06] Yeah, this suggests that the superscription is

[00:23:10] Trying to make a theological point about Jeremiah by comparing him to Moses

[00:23:16] Whereas Moses spent 40 years leading Israel from slavery in Egypt to the Promised Land

[00:23:23] Jeremiah's 40 years saw Israel

[00:23:26] Exiled from the promised land and Jeremiah himself ultimately in exile in Egypt

[00:23:34] Got it got it and the Bible loves these numbers and these like sure perfect

[00:23:39] Symmetrical what's funny to me is an ending you didn't need the 40 years to make that argument though

[00:23:45] Like to me it is poetic enough to just say imagine

[00:23:50] like Moses spent all those years trying to get in and then the very last prophet, you know

[00:23:57] Judah fell and he saw the entire end right, you know, like right there almost the same place

[00:24:04] Yeah, where they had entered I think I think honestly the whole Bible

[00:24:09] ascribes too much

[00:24:12] Important to the prophet Jeremiah. Yeah, like I mean he is very prominent in the New Testament from what I understand

[00:24:19] Yes, and I think that

[00:24:22] There's just been a lot more emphasis on this character than is maybe do I think that if you took the New Testament

[00:24:29] completely out of the picture as in

[00:24:31] Remove Christians from the movie right, right? Yeah

[00:24:35] I think that Jeremiah would not be any more special than anybody else

[00:24:38] right, and I think maybe he has a name mostly because he was there at a very traumatic point in

[00:24:44] Israel's and

[00:24:46] Jewish history, you know like this is a very

[00:24:49] Big deal the Babylonian exile is like we've heard about the Babylonian exile for multiple books

[00:24:55] Over this time period. Yeah, so it's it's a big deal. Yeah

[00:24:59] So that makes sense as to why he's a big name sure, but that's it

[00:25:05] But that's it. Yeah, I don't I don't think he has much to offer. I don't think he's magical

[00:25:10] I can do that much

[00:25:11] So

[00:25:13] Now we're moving on to our little pop quiz

[00:25:15] Okay, so we're done with Jeremiah except for contradictions

[00:25:19] Yeah, that'll be coming up soon not today. No, we're not not in this episode

[00:25:24] Next episode. Yeah. Okay, so are you ready for this? Sure? Let's do it number one

[00:25:29] What did the Lord say has kept good from his people?

[00:25:33] According to Jeremiah chapter 5 and I'll read you a multiple choice. Okay. All right

[00:25:38] Yeah, there enemies their kings their sins or their princes. I'm gonna go with their sins

[00:25:45] Okay, that sounds correct for a God come in. I don't know. I'll tell you one more. Okay

[00:25:50] In the book of Jeremiah. What was the land called three times to do?

[00:25:56] Bring forth open up hear the word of the Lord or turn to the river

[00:26:01] Say those again the answers

[00:26:03] bring forth

[00:26:05] Yeah, and up

[00:26:06] Hear the word of the Lord or turn to the river. I'm gonna go with hear the word of the Lord. That sounds right

[00:26:12] I don't right. Yeah. Okay. This one's easy. Who is Jeremiah scribe Baruch? Yes

[00:26:18] Okay in the book of Jeremiah

[00:26:20] What did the Lord compare his people who are accustomed to do evil to?

[00:26:26] self-willed person

[00:26:28] Oh, I accidentally

[00:26:31] I accidentally

[00:26:34] The page there it is. Sorry nothing

[00:26:39] So what did he compare his bad people to okay a self-willed person an

[00:26:45] Ethiopian and a leopard a stupid being or an innocent child an innocent child sure I don't know

[00:26:52] Okay, yeah, I don't know either how did the Lord describe the cisterns the Israelites hewed out for themselves in Jeremiah chapter 2

[00:27:02] strong rubbish

[00:27:04] Broken or dirty dirty? I don't none of these ring a bell. I know not making any

[00:27:11] Relevant sense to me. Okay, this one this one might be good. Okay. Yeah, which king burned the scroll

[00:27:17] containing Jeremiah's prophecy against Judah

[00:27:24] Zed it wasn't Zedekiah. Oh, so then it was the one before him Joaquin Joaquin

[00:27:30] Mu Joaquin ma the other choices are Manasseh Jeroboam or Saul. Oh, yeah, that's how you know. Yeah, okay

[00:27:38] Number seven what did the Lord liken his word to in Jeremiah chapter 23?

[00:27:45] rain and snow fire and hammer

[00:27:48] Stripes and manna or mighty fortress

[00:27:52] Fire and whatever hammer. Yeah, sure. That's what I would have said. I don't know if that's right or not

[00:27:56] Yeah

[00:27:57] Who is Jeremiah a?

[00:28:00] Judge a king a prophet or an apostle you fucking kidding me. I'm not a prophet a prophet that is gotta be right

[00:28:07] I mean, yeah

[00:28:08] What did the people plan on threatening Jeremiah with a stick their words a whip their hands whip

[00:28:19] Who was the father of Jeremiah the prophet?

[00:28:22] Amaz

[00:28:24] Baruch a

[00:28:26] Mon or Hill kaya a Mon

[00:28:29] Okay, but I have to put a mon because yeah, I said it yeah

[00:28:35] Mon has to do with the aminite now you're giving me answers in the middle of this though when I know

[00:28:39] When I know it, I'll give you the answer. Oh, I see. Yeah, okay

[00:28:42] Okay, number 11

[00:28:44] Why did the Lord ask his people to seek the welfare of the land where he sent them into exile?

[00:28:50] To be able to fight them for in it

[00:28:53] They will have welfare also to be able to sacrifice to God or to seek God's favor

[00:29:00] To seek God's favor. I don't think that's right. No, I know okay

[00:29:05] Why did the Lord promise to save a bed maleck? Do you remember who a bed maleck was?

[00:29:10] I remember the name but I can't I'll stop

[00:29:14] Opium oh yeah

[00:29:17] Jeremiah out of the pit right okay, okay

[00:29:20] So why did the Lord promise to save him because he was holy?

[00:29:23] God needs him he trusted in the Lord or he was helpless

[00:29:27] He trusted in the Lord. I think that's right, right? Okay ready? How many chapters are there in the book of Jeremiah?

[00:29:35] There are 52. I know that one. Yeah, what did Jeremiah the prophet set before the reshabytes?

[00:29:42] pictures full of wine and cups yeah that one bread and wine

[00:29:45] Parched corns or burnt stick sacred the first one wine and cups wine and cups not bread and wine no

[00:29:53] Okay, how many men went with a bed maleck to take up Jeremiah the prophet out of the sister

[00:30:00] We're 30 and you have both of those choices

[00:30:05] And then I be I think it was 30. Yeah, so we'll go with 30. That's what I would go with

[00:30:10] According to Jeremiah chapter 4

[00:30:12] What did the Lord ask the men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem to remove?

[00:30:19] for skin of their hearts

[00:30:21] wall of their defense

[00:30:23] Sacrifices or their kings?

[00:30:26] Their kings really I thought it was the foreskin of their hearts. I'm gonna go with King's still okay

[00:30:31] I'm probably wrong. I'm pretty sure you're wrong, but you know which King burned Jeremiah scroll

[00:30:38] Didn't we just cover this one we did walk he'm yes

[00:30:43] Really there were only 16

[00:30:46] Okay, here we go ready ready

[00:30:48] All right, so what did the Lord say has kept good from his people according to Jeremiah 5?

[00:30:54] There's sins. Did I get it right or wrong? Yeah, you got it right? Okay?

[00:30:57] I'll tell you if you got it wrong. No, right. Yeah in the book of Jeremiah

[00:31:01] What was the land called three times to do hear the word of the Lord?

[00:31:05] Got it right all right who is Jeremiah scribe Baruch?

[00:31:08] You got that one right okay this one you got wrong in the book of Jeremiah

[00:31:12] What did the Lord compare his people who are accustomed to do evil to?

[00:31:17] You chose innocent child the correct answer was an Ethiopian and leopard

[00:31:23] I don't recall that being a thing the verse is can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his thoughts

[00:31:30] Then also you can do good who are accustomed to do okay? All right? Okay? Yeah, right?

[00:31:36] You got this one wrong as well, okay?

[00:31:38] How did the Lord describe the cisterns the Israelites?

[00:31:42] Hewed out for themselves not dirty apparently right you chose dirty, but it was broken

[00:31:47] Okay, and here's what the verse says for my people have committed to evils

[00:31:52] They have forsaken me the fountain of living waters and hewed out cisterns for themselves

[00:31:58] Broken cisterns that can hold no water got it. No, I got that one right F. Y. I good job

[00:32:04] Yeah, yeah, which King burned the scroll containing Jeremiah's prophecy against Judah Joachim. I think technically

[00:32:11] I got that wrong because I said the wrong King first. I said Zedekiah

[00:32:13] You did you're very nice and gave that because it wasn't a choice

[00:32:19] Yeah, I told you that the other ones were it was what came Manasseh Jeroboam or Saul

[00:32:24] I got it. Yeah, they made some really like they made that one easy

[00:32:27] Yeah, okay

[00:32:29] What did the Lord like in his word to and Jeremiah chapter 23 fire and hammer baby?

[00:32:35] Yeah, I got that one too. Who is Jeremiah? He was a fucking prophet, right?

[00:32:39] Like that's the dumbest question in there. I know and then we get this and it's like what

[00:32:44] Okay, number nine. What did the people plan on threatening Jeremiah with you got it wrong?

[00:32:48] It wasn't a whip. It was their hands

[00:32:51] Wait, I'm sorry their words. I swear they threatened them with a whip at one point

[00:32:56] Well, here is the actually he did get whipped at one point

[00:32:59] Here's the verse where it they threatened okay, then they said come

[00:33:04] Let us make plots against Jeremiah for the law shall not perish from the priest nor counsel from the wise

[00:33:11] Nor the word from the prophet come

[00:33:13] Let us strike him with the tongue and let us not pay attention to any of his words got it

[00:33:19] Boring yeah, okay who was the father of Jeremiah the prophet you got that one wrong

[00:33:26] Yeah, you chose a mon which was just so silly

[00:33:30] Yeah, it was hulkaya. I knew that why am I supposed to remember like Jeremiah's dad

[00:33:36] My concerns because a mon has to do with the Ammonites great, but I don't give a fuck about Jeremiah's dad, okay, but

[00:33:44] I'm just saying whatever whatever whatever you say yeah number 11. You got wrong as well

[00:33:49] Okay

[00:33:50] Why did the Lord ask his people to seek the welfare of the land where he sent them into exile?

[00:33:55] What did I say you said to seek God's favor, but no it was for in it. They will have welfare also

[00:34:03] Yeah, yeah

[00:34:03] But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile and pray to the Lord on its behalf

[00:34:09] For in its welfare, you will find your welfare. That was the settle in you're gonna be there for a while make the best of it

[00:34:16] Yeah

[00:34:17] Okay, number 12 you got this one right?

[00:34:18] Okay, why did the Lord promise to save a bed melec because he trusted in the Lord right hey

[00:34:24] Yeah, you got this one right too. How many chapters are there in the book of Jeremiah?

[00:34:28] I mean that was an easy one fifty two we didn't even unless of course they asked us

[00:34:32] When we were on chapter 50 because then I think you thought there was only 51. Yeah, that is true

[00:34:37] That is true, but we got it right though. Yeah

[00:34:40] Okay number 14 you got this one right

[00:34:43] What did Jeremiah the prophet set before the reshabytes pictures full of wine and cups?

[00:34:48] Yeah, okay number 15 you got this one right how many men went with a bed melec to take up Jeremiah the prophet out of the

[00:34:56] Cistern 30 30 men which is so weird or three depending on the translation. Yes, but but 30 30 right

[00:35:04] Okay, number 16 you got wrong

[00:35:06] According to Jeremiah chapter 4 what did the Lord ask the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to remove?

[00:35:14] You chose their kings. Oh, the answer was the foreskin of their hearts

[00:35:20] Okay, circumcise yourselves to the Lord remove the foreskin of your hearts

[00:35:25] Oh men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem

[00:35:28] Lest my wrath go forth like fire and burn with none to quench it because of the evil of your deeds

[00:35:35] Yeah, okay, and then the last one again which King burned Jeremiah scroll Joachim. Yes, right? Okay?

[00:35:43] Yep

[00:35:43] So you did poorly I did poorly you did poorly give you a score um

[00:35:49] You answered 11 correctly out of 16 really not that bad

[00:35:55] Well, what is the oh you got a 64 point 7% see that's passing you basically got a 65

[00:36:03] I don't I passed you beat most players the average is a 62 well hell. Yeah, I'm above the curve

[00:36:11] So you're above the curve. I'll take it. Yep. Well, I got more right than you but I did not catch my score

[00:36:17] Right now makes me sad. Yeah, I wish I had yeah, but that wraps up and concludes this fucking chapter

[00:36:26] Well, let me let me ask you just just since we're wrapping up. I said chapter, but I meant book great

[00:36:30] Yeah, what is your general impression of Jeremiah versus what we've read of other books?

[00:36:36] Okay, I have mixed feelings sure on the one hand sometimes it was like ooh, what's gonna happen next?

[00:36:42] I think early on that's how I felt yeah

[00:36:46] Then it was just as bad as the others in boringness because it got really repetitive right yeah

[00:36:51] Yeah, and then it got confusing because I was like wait. This is all out of order

[00:36:56] Yeah, that that part of it like that aspect of it really detracted from the entire

[00:37:00] Experience of trying to read it because yeah, you couldn't keep track of what was happening at any given time

[00:37:05] And there were so many other authors involved in writing this book that it just like really fell apart

[00:37:11] Yes, as we got further into the book it did and I feel like

[00:37:15] The book of Jeremiah really just kind of loses its thread and falls apart. Yeah, so yeah

[00:37:20] I'm not real impressed with the book

[00:37:22] I haven't been real impressed with any of the books, but I mean this one is definitely not I would not rank this near my favorites

[00:37:30] No, if I had to pick favorites same so

[00:37:33] Anyway, I think that's what we've got thus far for Jeremiah. We're gonna be back

[00:37:39] Probably later today actually with the contradictions episode. Yes, which you affectionately call

[00:37:45] You're always wrong

[00:37:48] That's the one yeah

[00:37:50] And then we will be attempting to get out the first chapter of

[00:37:56] Lamentations to start the week on Monday morning when we get that put up hopefully so that might put us back on track

[00:38:04] I'm gonna say maybe we might get this together and do good things and I think so start moving correctly

[00:38:13] Alright, thank you guys for joining us and

[00:38:17] Congratulations, if you don't join us for the contradictions episode on finishing Jeremiah mm-hmm, and we'll see you shortly

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