Jeremiah Chapter 30: Atheist Bible Study

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[00:01:16] Welcome to sacrilegious discourse. I'm husband and I'm wife. Together we're reading the

[00:01:20] Bible for the very first time. We grew up without religion and wanted to know what all the fuss was about.

[00:01:26] Well, what did we learn so far? That God is a dick and apparently some people believe in talking

[00:01:31] donkeys. We're not trying to pass ourselves off as experts. Nope, we're just reading the Bible for

[00:01:36] the first time and giving our first take reaction. If you'd like to join us in this venture

[00:01:40] you might consider starting at episode one. Otherwise jump in wherever you like. All right let's go read the

[00:01:45] Bible. Yeah let's get to it. Husband, wife. Do you remember what happened yesterday and where the

[00:01:54] hell we are today? Well yesterday we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 29. That is correct.

[00:02:00] And in that one Jeremiah was sending letters. He was he's he's reached out to the postman.

[00:02:06] We had some epistles up in there. Yeah we had some epistles not apostles epistles. Right. Yeah

[00:02:11] and he sent messages to the people that were already in exile. And he's like yeah y'all coming back

[00:02:18] so get comfy. You know how kids get married, you know all that shit. Buckle down for the long haul

[00:02:24] multiplying. Right just be just get comfy over there. Your home now? Yeah. And then then he wrote a

[00:02:29] letter to the people that didn't get over there and he's like y'all fucked. And also I heard what

[00:02:35] you done said about me. Right and I told God to get you and he won't get you. Right right. Yeah

[00:02:41] so that was basically Jeremiah chapter 29. Yes. Which means that today we're getting into. Jeremiah chapter 30.

[00:02:48] Oh right let's do this. Okey dokey.

[00:02:50] All right here we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 30. Okay. And guess what? Oh what?

[00:03:06] This book or this chapter is numbered as Jeremiah 37. In the Septuagint. Septuagint.

[00:03:14] Which is the Greek version of the Greek translation. But we don't know whether or not that's

[00:03:20] just because there's extra shit in that one or if it's because it's in the wrong order. Yeah

[00:03:25] we don't really know why that's the case. Yeah I haven't really looked too hard into that so. Right

[00:03:29] but when we keep bringing it up though we should probably look into it. Probably. Because I am a

[00:03:34] little bit curious since you keep mentioning it. I know like y'all just stapled a shit in the

[00:03:38] wrong order. Not like overly curious but somewhat curious. It's just that somewhere between like the

[00:03:44] original Hebrew and then the Latin and the Arabic and the Greek versions. All the versions. Like

[00:03:54] I'm just kind of like over it and I'm like yeah so basically everybody who translated it into a

[00:04:00] different language they kind of messed it up a little bit and then it traveled down through

[00:04:07] history from there. Right. So yes there might be a different reason and we should look into that

[00:04:13] but I'm guessing that that's all we're going to find. Right but I only mentioned it because you

[00:04:17] keep mentioning it. I keep mentioning it because I figure it's an interesting note. Just FYI. Okay

[00:04:25] that's basically what it is like just as an FYI here's some information in case you find it important.

[00:04:31] I don't somebody might. Okay. All right that is the first note that I have, the second note that

[00:04:37] I have. Do you like how suddenly it like all the way up to Jeremiah? I didn't really start with

[00:04:43] notes. Right. Then with Jeremiah comes along and I'm starting to like have to each chapter comes

[00:04:50] with its own prefaces. Right. Right. Yeah. Okay so second note. I mean it jumps all over the

[00:04:55] fucking place. It really does. Chapter's 30 through 33 so starting today. Yeah. Have been

[00:05:02] referred to as the book of consolation. Ah okay. All right. I guess it's supposed to mean that like

[00:05:10] good shit is coming to the remnant. Sure. Yeah. And I don't know if that's what we call them

[00:05:16] anymore like is that what I don't know what you know who I'm talking about the good grapes,

[00:05:20] the good figs. Right. The ones that went ahead and went into exile that it's not going to kill.

[00:05:24] Yeah. Yeah. The high class skilled artisans and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. Them guys. I guess some

[00:05:31] goods gonna come to him. You know he likes to say that he takes care of the poor but he's like

[00:05:35] he's not doing that here. I know he's like except for the ones I left behind which is all of them.

[00:05:39] Right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. The word is not the bird. No. Bird is not the word. Right. The word

[00:05:46] that came to Jeremiah from the Lord saying thus speaks the Lord God of Israel saying write in a book

[00:05:53] for yourself all the words that I have spoken to you. That caught you unaware. We're sitting here

[00:06:02] reading the book of Jeremiah and like now we're referencing the fact that he's going to write a book.

[00:06:07] Yeah. Write it down. Write it down. Yeah. For behold, the Dees are comments as the Lord

[00:06:13] that I will bring back from captivity. My people Israel and Judah says the Lord. He says he says

[00:06:21] let me ask this because all the words I've heard God tell Jeremiah have all been like y'all

[00:06:26] fucked. There's no like he's not talking about how to live, how to operate in the world. He's

[00:06:33] just like y'all better repent or you're all fucked. Hate you hate you hate you. You're okay I guess

[00:06:40] there's really nothing of substance for when they come back. If you made it back then you're all

[00:06:45] good and don't fuck up again I guess but don't there's no laws to follow in what Jeremiah said

[00:06:53] it's all that previous shit. Yeah. Really there's not much to write down. You know what?

[00:06:57] I just realized like we could totally do without this entire book because it adds nothing. It's so far

[00:07:02] yeah. With regard to like how to live, how to be a follower of God. This is just some dude

[00:07:08] like really happy that God is talking to him about correct prophecies apparently. And he gets

[00:07:14] to be vengeful in God's name right and that's that's always exciting. I mean it is questionable whether

[00:07:19] he's whether or not he's making these things happen the way you know I mean like that he might be

[00:07:23] able to he might be able to be able to be still possibility. Yeah the more than I thought about it

[00:07:27] after you brought that up last night was it last night or the night before? I don't know it was

[00:07:31] recently very recent. I was like my guy is totally in on this right yeah. I'm a believer now

[00:07:39] that is what I believe I'm a believer. Okay so the Lord continues and I will cause them to return

[00:07:45] to the land that it gave to their fathers and they shall possess it. Okay right. Keep saying

[00:07:51] that you got anything new this chapter now these okay so that was the end of his quote. Now these coming

[00:07:58] up are the words that the Lord spoke concerning Israel and Judah. Okay so now God's talking

[00:08:04] and Jeremiah is right in the ship. This future Israel and Judah are current we'll find out I guess.

[00:08:11] For thus says the Lord we have heard a voice of trembling of fear and not of peace well yeah

[00:08:18] because God's like war war war war war war kill killed the word of God right that we're reading

[00:08:23] right here he's literally the one causing it. Why is he this you know why? I know why because

[00:08:29] it's not actually God but like this is so ridiculous. Yeah it's like they were so cute back then

[00:08:34] before they could think things through logically right like this isn't how God would talk about

[00:08:38] himself about what he's doing not at all ask now and see whether a man is ever in labor with a child

[00:08:46] here we go men usurping women's pain during childbirth I guess but but being the simplest of

[00:08:53] there is no no that doesn't really happen I mean they have found way I think there is a way

[00:08:59] that they can actually a man can carry a child but cannot give birth but that is discounting

[00:09:07] the trans experience and I do want to say that there can be trans women or no trans men who can

[00:09:19] become pregnant obviously because their bodies are still I was not I didn't know if they could go

[00:09:24] the full I wasn't aware of that actually I guess no I think you're thinking that I'm talking about

[00:09:29] oh oh oh I'm sorry a person yes it's yes yes I was born I wasn't following correctly yeah I know

[00:09:36] okay you were you were backwards yep I was exactly yeah understood well I mean I started out

[00:09:41] backward so I had to like think it through right I apologize I am still we still learning we're

[00:09:47] still learning and we have a kid that identifies as trans so yeah I mean that's what we want to learn

[00:09:53] we want to learn and I think that that is the you know we we talk about this all the time there's

[00:09:58] there's people in our lives that that make an effort not not the best efforts but they make an effort

[00:10:04] they care they care and they ask questions and they they read a lot and that means enough you know

[00:10:12] like that's that's right because they care and because they want to care and the boomers so I

[00:10:17] mean that means a lot more right when a boomer makes that kind of effort I'm sorry it does mean

[00:10:23] something because boomers can't try a lot when it comes to like learning new concepts I am I'm

[00:10:29] gonna say I have to try myself but right but I do care it is harder than a question you know it

[00:10:35] is harder for a boomer than a Gen X right and it's harder for a Gen X than it is for a millennial yeah

[00:10:41] and it's hardly difficult at all for a millennial much less a Gen Z right so I mean

[00:10:48] I'm just saying credit to the boomers out there who are trying because we recognize that y'all were

[00:10:55] born without color TV and so you didn't have the internet like it's harder for you right you know

[00:11:04] we at least kind of had it introduced to us as children as Gen X not like totally immersed in

[00:11:15] it or anything like we are now I was gonna say I didn't really know anything about even LGBTQIA

[00:11:21] until AIDS that would be called it AIDS back to HIV hit back in I mean like that's my first

[00:11:28] exposure was in the 80s yeah but that's what I mean like you and I were children in the 80s so

[00:11:35] we were exposed earlier than boomers were to okay the phenomenon of the LGBTQ experience on

[00:11:43] the slightest level right yeah on a grand scale they were not right and so we're way off topic here

[00:11:51] but we just want to put out there that the trans experience counts and that you know

[00:11:57] whatever your experience may be yes sorry okay ask now and see whether a man is ever in labor

[00:12:04] with a child so why do I see every man with his hands on his loins like a woman in laborer in all

[00:12:10] faces term pale I don't I don't know what because they scared and crying oh okay you know

[00:12:17] God's a comment Babylon's a comment I don't I don't feel like that's what's happened I don't either

[00:12:21] I really don't no matter how much the prophets say it the reactions that they tell me that the

[00:12:29] people are doing to the things that they're saying they're unrealistic well they don't they don't

[00:12:33] match up right yeah like I mean there's not they don't act scared of Yahweh right they they do

[00:12:40] act scared of like you know people coming to kill them yeah but that's not indicative of God

[00:12:47] commanding it right it's just the reality that is in front of them so I don't it doesn't match up

[00:12:54] they they claim that this is what's happening but I've not actually seen that in practice when

[00:12:59] they talk about the people right so in general right no I'm with you yeah okay so here is what

[00:13:07] God says that the people are saying a last for that day is great so that none is like it

[00:13:13] and it is the time of Jacob's trouble but right here in River City but he shall be saved out of it

[00:13:21] for it shall come to pass in that day says the Lord of hosts that I will break his yoke from your neck

[00:13:28] and will burst your bonds probably also your bubbles foreigners shall no more enslave them oh

[00:13:35] I missed an opportunity I could have said and also your cherries burst cherries okay I guess you

[00:13:42] pop cherries yeah okay I take it back rewind take it back okay anyway burst your bonds and your

[00:13:50] bubbles foreigners shall no more enslave them but they shall serve the Lord their God and David

[00:13:56] their king whom I will raise up for them hmm zombie David yeah that's an odd statement actually

[00:14:02] right I mean it's it's always been like the line of David but like these literally same David David

[00:14:07] gonna walk that's weird I mean I guess it makes sense if you're saying that you stopped the line

[00:14:13] right he's gotta he's gotta bring him back somehow I guess right I guess zombie David is gonna be a

[00:14:18] thing huh you know right he's gonna resurrect David is Jesus zombie David or is zombie David a Messiah

[00:14:26] still yet to come right right okay okay so I've always said that I'm scared of zombies and we have

[00:14:37] read about zombies more than once now in the Bible yeah that is a little it's got me a little bit

[00:14:44] unnerved speaking of fanfic you know like wow wow zombie David you know yeah that would be that

[00:14:52] would be a good one that would be a good one oh I'm I wish I was a stronger storyteller that I could

[00:14:59] take all these great ideas and spin them into the novels they deserve right and that some producer

[00:15:06] would pick them up there's like a whole franchise waiting to have there really is there really is

[00:15:11] we've got some good stuff here y'all you I mean you could go off on the Bible yeah yeah go ham so

[00:15:18] speak right that was that was rude that was rude I acknowledge that that's on me all right so zombie

[00:15:25] David coming okay yeah therefore do not fear oh my servant Jacob says the Lord nor be dismayed

[00:15:32] is real for behold I will save you from afar and your seed from the land of their captivity

[00:15:40] Jacob shall return have rest and be quiet and no one shall make him afraid except for God right

[00:15:48] because you gotta always fear God you gotta be a fear to God never not be afraid yes

[00:15:52] for I am with you says the Lord to save you though I make a full end of all nations where I have

[00:15:59] scattered you yet I will not make a complete end of you I'm gonna I'm gonna blow y'all away

[00:16:06] in a tornado let your land where you land and then eventually in a few hundred years or whatever

[00:16:15] right because that's how I am yeah then I'll draw you back home yeah so don't be scared when

[00:16:22] when I'm kicking your ass and beating you up and making you go places I personally think that the

[00:16:28] fucking reset button for his people is way too close to his hand uh-huh because he hits in all the

[00:16:34] goddamn time he's got the code to the nukes and it is not okay right yeah he doesn't need like a

[00:16:41] secondary rare occasion or anything he's just sitting there smashing that fucking button like

[00:16:46] we all recognize that this is a power that no man should have so we make it where you both have to

[00:16:53] have like keys that you turn at the same time right right you have to have another person who

[00:16:59] verifies with a separate code word that you don't have access to like there's always at least two

[00:17:05] people that have to set these things off right but not God no he's like die die boom new and really

[00:17:12] based on his personality he really should have some sort of like a he needs fail safe like back up way

[00:17:18] of not having to hit the button all the time you know what he needs a cabinet he needs yeah first

[00:17:23] of all he needs to put his fucking bomb away into a cabinet yes but that's not the cabinet I was

[00:17:28] referring to he needs a cabinet of people a team that he has to answer to or pass his ideas by yeah

[00:17:36] yeah right and not just you know be able to just like hit no and me no and me no and me stop

[00:17:44] right you know what I mean like he needs to stop yes okay yet I will not make a complete end of

[00:17:50] you but I will correct you injustice and will not let you go altogether unpunished I'm gonna

[00:17:56] bring you home but I am gonna kick your ass for a few hundred years sure yeah don't worry you'll be

[00:18:01] okay but I feel like he's gonna have the same problems though because they've been away in a foreign

[00:18:05] land for a long time which means they're gonna pick up habits that you just like you thought that

[00:18:09] they were doing bad god shit then right yeah it's only gonna get worse my friend yeah like God

[00:18:16] I we need to have a talk I don't think you're smart yeah you're doing this you're doing this

[00:18:22] correctly mm-hmm for thus says the Lord okay ready your affliction is incurable your wound is severe

[00:18:31] that means you're gonna die right I mean it sounds that way yeah you're bleeding out right there's

[00:18:35] no one to plead your cause that you may be bound up you have no healing medicines all your

[00:18:42] lovers have forgotten you that would be damn that would be the the nations close to okay like

[00:18:49] the outlying nation yeah we're talking about and a allegorical right yeah they do not seek you for

[00:18:56] I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy with the chastisement of a cruel one for the multitude

[00:19:04] of your iniquities because your sins have increased why do you cry about your fucking affliction

[00:19:11] your sorrow is incurable he's like I only stabbed you a hundred times why are you praying also

[00:19:18] clean up that fucking mess yeah like I hate that guy oh yeah yeah no I mean that that we've discussed

[00:19:24] this we even if God were real like the God and the Bible real yeah he's a dick he's a narcissist

[00:19:30] in the clinical sense right right because of the multitude of your iniquities because your

[00:19:36] sins have increased I've done these things to you you know I'm a dick I can why not yeah

[00:19:42] therefore all those who devour you shall be devoured so I mean you suck I hate you obviously

[00:19:50] they'll kill them yeah I mean I'll kill them eventually but I'm gonna let him rough you up a bit

[00:19:53] I mean I made them do this thing where they took you but I told him way back when I was gonna

[00:19:58] kill him when I was done so now we gotta kill him I really I could stop them but I really really

[00:20:05] like the idea of them taking your wives and raping them and that kind of thing I really like that

[00:20:12] idea you know and I like the idea of you going into slavery and losing your identity I do I'm

[00:20:21] God and that is what I like right like why why because I can because I God can yeah I was actually

[00:20:29] gonna say the exact same thing because he can right right no that's that's why we climb mountains

[00:20:34] because we can right we don't kill people just because we can but but again none of the essentially

[00:20:42] that none of this is true because it was just things were different back then right you know

[00:20:47] there was a lot of conquering happen there was a lot of fighting over lands and there was a lot

[00:20:52] of like culture wars and like literal culture wars you know and these things were much more horrific

[00:21:01] back then because it was hand-to-hand combat it was personal it was right in your face you know

[00:21:07] you didn't get to drop bombs on people and shit like that right right so this was just a reality

[00:21:13] of the time and these people are trying to explain it away with a God that has a reason for it

[00:21:18] and there is no fucking reason for it mm-hmm just sucks it's stupid it's all done I hate it this

[00:21:24] bible's pissing me off only because it's it's trying to come up with reasons it's trying to

[00:21:30] it's trying to give religious reasons to politics yes and I hate that right politics is shitty not

[00:21:37] Christianity wasn't a thing if religion in general wasn't as big of a thing I wouldn't really give

[00:21:43] a shit and there's some nice little nuggets in here you could glean about history sometimes don't

[00:21:49] murder each other that's not I didn't even mean that I meant historically okay you could learn

[00:21:54] about what happened in those days got it based on some of the information in the bible it is a

[00:21:59] it is to some extent a bit of a historical document sure you know not not in the way that we

[00:22:06] write them today right but you definitely could learn some things from it historically the way you

[00:22:10] look at the different things that we dig up in archaeology on any other culture yeah yeah yeah okay

[00:22:18] and all your adversaries every one of them shall go into captivity so the ones that took them

[00:22:25] captive captive are now going to go eventually yeah sometime after the 70 years who's capturing

[00:22:32] them exactly I don't know each other those who plunder you shall become plunder and all who pray

[00:22:39] upon you I will make a prey for I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds says the

[00:22:47] Lord because they called you an outcast saying this is Zion no one seeks her thus says the Lord

[00:22:55] behold I will bring back the captivity of Jacob's tents I love when Jacob pitches a tent the

[00:23:02] captivity of Jacob's tents okay all right and have mercy on his dwelling places the city shall be built

[00:23:10] upon its own mound and the palace shall remain according to its own plan okay then out of them

[00:23:19] shall proceed Thanksgiving and the voice of those who make Mary that's me make a Mary

[00:23:26] they're gonna come back me like all right God finally gave us back our town

[00:23:37] this until the next time he takes away you don't you hum Tetris when you're making Mary total yeah

[00:23:42] That's exactly what you do. I will multiply them and they shall not diminish. They go fuck.

[00:23:48] They're gonna fuck so hard they're gonna make babies, right? Okay. Yeah

[00:23:52] I will also glorify them and they shall not be small

[00:23:56] Okay, I'm just gonna interrupt myself real quick here

[00:23:59] That if we run into some audio problems is because there is a serious mother fucking storm brewing outside

[00:24:05] Yeah

[00:24:05] And there are trees beating against our window

[00:24:08] So if we lose power

[00:24:10] I'm just letting you know in advance that that is a thing that could happen

[00:24:14] So it is okay. All right, and you know maybe God strikes us

[00:24:18] We do a fucking podcast every day. Oh no

[00:24:21] You wait three years, right? It's not it's more than that. It's almost four years

[00:24:26] You waited four years like what was what was the thing that finally was one one thing too far right?

[00:24:32] Did I say you're a dick one too many times?

[00:24:36] Geez

[00:24:37] Their children shall also wait and mess that up their children also shall be as before and their congregation

[00:24:46] Shall be established before me and I will punish all who will press them

[00:24:50] Oh your children will be free and stuff like that sure okay there nobles shall be from among them

[00:24:56] And their governor shall come from their midst

[00:25:00] And I will cause him to draw near and he shall approach me for who is this who pledged his heart to approach me

[00:25:08] Says the Lord you shall be my people and I will be your God

[00:25:12] I forced you to agree to that remember and that's that's what we're agreeing to we're talking about the future when he released

[00:25:18] The amount of captivity right and we're just assuming that they're gonna come back and be like yay

[00:25:23] God

[00:25:24] And like take him back and like worship him and everything's going to be just wonderful right

[00:25:29] I just want to like right now right this second

[00:25:33] I want to jump into where they come back and hear that story yeah because it never fucking works out that way

[00:25:38] Like how that workout for you God with your with your power of foresight

[00:25:42] Right did you see it coming? It's never perfect. There's I guarantee whenever they came back

[00:25:48] Mm-hmm, they were shitty again. Yeah

[00:25:51] There's something else that happened the people sucked the neighbors sucked the religion sucked God sucked right

[00:25:57] You know what collectively they all suck yeah, I bet they still have their fucking share of pulls and shit right up all on into

[00:26:05] Babylon right and then brought him back home. Yeah

[00:26:09] Behold the whirlwind of the Lord goes forth with fury it does right in my backyard

[00:26:15] Yeah, I feel like they really like that word whirlwind in the

[00:26:19] In this book tumble. It's been it's been used a lot. Uh-huh. Yes

[00:26:23] A continuing whirlwind it will fall violently on the head of the wicked

[00:26:28] Okay, all right

[00:26:30] The fierce anger of the Lord will not return until he has done it and until he has performed the intense of his heart

[00:26:38] In the latter days you will consider it the end

[00:26:43] In the latter days

[00:26:45] L-A-T-T-E-R not like climb a ladder

[00:26:48] I got that I just try to figure out what we're discussing like he's discussing when they come back, right?

[00:26:53] And he's like you're gonna see and we also kind of discussed a zombie David yeah

[00:26:57] And we discussed that they're all gonna love God

[00:27:01] And so it almost feels like this is

[00:27:04] prophesizing the

[00:27:06] The it's almost like a Jesus prophecy only without Jesus involved

[00:27:10] That's exactly what the Christians say it was except with

[00:27:15] Jesus

[00:27:17] Can't be right okay, okay well in my opinion it cannot be right because what the prophecy is thus far with Jeremiah

[00:27:26] Is that they are gonna be captive with Babylon for 70 years right and the timeframe works out to where that does not mean

[00:27:32] Jesus in any way whatsoever right right and here we are talking about the return of them

[00:27:38] And since we're still in Jeremiah

[00:27:41] We're obviously in my opinion talking about the return from Babylon

[00:27:46] When God is gonna punish the people that took them captive and everything like that

[00:27:51] We're not talking about Jesus, but it sounds very very much

[00:27:55] Like the Jesus story yeah, and and I see

[00:27:58] I

[00:27:59] Know you're saying in your head. Yep. That's what they take this as the Jesus story

[00:28:04] But it doesn't you're saying but they shouldn't though

[00:28:07] They shouldn't there's no reason to take this as the Jesus story because they're talking about zombie David

[00:28:12] They're talking about 70 years down the line. They're talking about Babylon. They're talking about Israel

[00:28:17] There's nothing here that indicates that it was gonna happen 500 plus years later

[00:28:22] Right at the turn of the millennia

[00:28:25] When Jesus is around that says nothing about that and

[00:28:29] Okay, we could interpret

[00:28:31] David returning right

[00:28:34] The David line could be interpreted there

[00:28:36] But I even if we even if we went that far with it right

[00:28:40] I can't get past the fact that this whole time all through Jeremiah

[00:28:44] We've been talking about a 70 year timeframe

[00:28:47] That they go into captivity and then come back

[00:28:49] And that's still what we were talking about in my mind

[00:28:53] Until that last little bit there where it's like oh, but this is like the we ever this is the promised land

[00:28:58] This is where everything's gonna be wonderful and the

[00:29:01] The prophet the king the the Jesus he guy yeah, the David zombie are coming back and we're gonna make everything perfect

[00:29:08] Well, I told you when we were reading Isaiah

[00:29:12] Oh, that's some lightning. I told you when we were reading Isaiah

[00:29:16] This is where it's starting to feel like

[00:29:20] We're getting close to the New Testament. Sure because

[00:29:23] This is what the Christians draw on starting with Isaiah and moving forward all of the prophets

[00:29:30] Henceforth are gonna somewhat read like this and we're gonna be reading it with the lens

[00:29:37] Unfortunately of knowing about about the Jesus story

[00:29:42] Insofar as a very simplified version because we don't really know it. We haven't read it

[00:29:47] So with the lens of knowing a bit of the Jesus story and knowing that this is what Christians are taking from it

[00:29:55] so

[00:29:56] right yeah

[00:29:58] And and I think you know how like today we read um

[00:30:01] The well what Christians will tell you to read is the New Testament

[00:30:04] They only care about the New Testament for the most part. Yeah, that's that's the big the big book

[00:30:08] The New Testament all that stuff there good news that's the good stuff

[00:30:12] But

[00:30:13] They also throw in a few of the prophets and then you know obviously Genesis has got to be in there

[00:30:18] And you know some other shed they skip all the middle parts though right yeah

[00:30:22] But I feel like when you know during Jesus's time

[00:30:26] Because the prophets like Jeremiah and Isaiah were newer written material

[00:30:32] I feel like that was much like their New Testament. Yeah, so they drew on these writings more so than they drew on previous writings

[00:30:40] And and maybe even at the time they considered those previous writings a little bit too archaic

[00:30:44] Yeah, and not relevant

[00:30:46] But these newer writings were relevant and they used them to

[00:30:49] Almost steal their ideas

[00:30:51] Mm-hmm into the New Testament. Yeah, and again we haven't read the New Testament yet. So I don't know that to be

[00:30:56] 100% but it tracks

[00:30:58] But it makes some sense to me at least yeah based on some of the things we're reading in what I do know about the New Testament right so

[00:31:05] I don't know I

[00:31:08] I cannot accept that that's about Jesus though no, I don't either personally. I don't think it's about Jesus

[00:31:15] I'm I'm not here to say this is about Jesus. I'm here to say this is what the Christians draw on to support

[00:31:22] Saying that they prophesized Jesus sure no, yeah, I shouldn't even say I don't think that's about Jesus

[00:31:27] I know for a fact it's not about Jesus because I was written before Jesus was around and this fucker didn't prophesize Jesus

[00:31:32] He barely prophesized what underwear he was wearing that day. Yeah, he could barely talk

[00:31:37] In the right manner with regard to how he talks for God. Yeah, whatever

[00:31:42] Anyway, I just had to say that because I was annoyed with it

[00:31:47] But that was Jeremiah chapter 30 it sure as fuck was and we'll be back tomorrow

[00:31:52] Which is Saturday for our Q&E Saturday and then on Sunday

[00:31:59] We I don't know what we're gonna do because we missed book club last week and that was on me

[00:32:04] I did not have enough time to prepare right so I don't know if we're gonna do book club or patreon

[00:32:11] We'll probably only do one because yeah, honestly. I think we're both a little

[00:32:16] But dragiled and worn out right now. We're just driving things going on

[00:32:20] It feels like we're always running to catch up. Yes, so we'll probably only do one

[00:32:25] I'm not sure which one will do just either

[00:32:27] Honestly, it'll probably be book club just because that's an easier prep

[00:32:32] And I already did part of it right so if I had to bet

[00:32:36] I would prophesize

[00:32:38] The people do book club that makes that that and that's fine

[00:32:42] I think we can reset and kind of start from there. So that'll work apologies patrons

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