Bible Study BY Atheists Weekly: Jeremiah Chapters 36 - 40 plus Q&A

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[00:01:16] Welcome to sacrilegious discourse. I'm husband. And I'm wife. Together we're reading

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[00:01:50] Husband! Wife! Did you have a good weekend? I mean sure. Yeah, was there something special that

[00:01:56] happened this weekend or what? I mean it was Easter again. Oh yeah, yeah that holiday.

[00:02:02] We had some good food. We did. Yeah. So that was nice. And then we had kids that we were around that

[00:02:10] were nephews and nieces and stuff. And it was nice to see them. Yeah, so yeah that was our weekend

[00:02:18] food and family. Well do you remember what happened in what we're reading on Friday and where the

[00:02:25] hell we are today? Well, we just got done reading Jeremiah chapter 35. That is correct. And in that

[00:02:33] chapter, see I think God wanted Jeremiah to serve the Resha Bites alcohol and then God used them as

[00:02:42] an example of how well they held to their faith and their ideas and their whatever principles.

[00:02:50] And they was like if you guys don't change your ways, I'm gonna you know kill you. Right,

[00:02:55] like he's been saying the whole fucking book. Right, I just I'm like so these guys didn't drink and

[00:03:02] you're using that as an example as to why you're gonna kill people. Right. Okay, whatever man.

[00:03:08] You know, cool. Cool. So anyway that was Jeremiah chapter 35. Sure as fuck was. Which means that

[00:03:14] today we're giving them to Jeremiah chapter 36. All right, let's do this. Okay, okay.

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[00:05:00] slash a cast. Okay, hopping into Jeremiah chapter 36. Okay. And as we've mentioned before, this

[00:05:12] chapter is out of order. Right. This one and the previous one out of order within the book of

[00:05:17] Jeremiah. Okay. Yep. And this chapter itself is numbered as chapter 43 in the Septoagint.

[00:05:26] Okay. This is the Greek one. Got it. And we went over that on Friday, no Saturday or Q&A Saturday.

[00:05:33] Right. As to why should be gray? Yeah, kind of. You talk more about the books, but I mean you just

[00:05:42] said that essentially they don't match up because they don't match up. Right. And there are different

[00:05:50] people who are making different copies and the sources were different. And the idioms didn't

[00:05:55] always translate and they just staple things together in different orders. Got it. Got it. Okay.

[00:06:02] Okay, so let's get started on this. Are you ready? I'm ready. Now it came to pass in the fourth year of

[00:06:10] Joaquim, the son of Josiah, King of Judah, that this word came to Jeremiah from the Lord. This word

[00:06:18] saying. Yeah. Okay, so this is God talking. Mm-hmm. Take a scroll of a book and write on it all the

[00:06:26] words that I've spoken to you against Israel, against Judah, and against all the nations. From

[00:06:31] the day I spoke to you from the days of Josiah even to this day. This is the second time that they

[00:06:39] mentioned that God told Jeremiah to write this shit down. Yeah. Yeah. So it's funny because you know,

[00:06:46] Jeremiah or his scribe or whatever or or hypothetically writing this book, right? Yeah. And they

[00:06:51] seem very mentionitis that God told them to do it totally told me to write it. Right. Yeah. Like

[00:06:56] out of the blue, they're just like, Oh, by the way, yeah. Yeah. No, he told me I just wanted to let

[00:07:02] you know, nobody asked. Yeah. Okay. This is God's doing right here. Yeah. Yeah. This is God's word

[00:07:08] because God told me to do it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Sure it is, guy. It may be that the house of Judah,

[00:07:15] this is still God talking. Yeah. Well, here all of the adversities which I purpose to bring upon them

[00:07:21] that everyone may turn from his evil way that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin.

[00:07:27] So this is writing it down? Well, this was back when there was still opportunity for the people to

[00:07:32] change their ways. Sure. So he's like, yes, write it down so that you can like read it out loud to

[00:07:39] them over and over and over again. And so the other people can have copies to read it over and over

[00:07:44] so that maybe they will change their ways. Okay. Because the shit that I have told you is that

[00:07:49] Babylon going get ya got it. Cause y'all ain't act him right. Do you have just a backup,

[00:07:55] just a step? You said this is during the reign of Joaquin. Um, do you Joaquin? Sorry. Yes.

[00:08:00] Do you know what time frame this is or because I get lost as to which king was winning? How and

[00:08:07] right? Hold on a sec. Okay. Cause I thought I had some of that shit in my and I only asked because

[00:08:17] Jeremiah goes back and forth and back and forth all the time with regard to time frames and who's

[00:08:22] in charge and yeah, all that shit. So well, okay. So Josiah died in 609 BCE. Okay. And so some of this

[00:08:32] probably took place around 604 maybe question mark. Okay. Yeah. So this is still kind of a little

[00:08:39] bit earlier on before it was like really, really shit hitting the fan. Yes. Okay. Alright. Okay.

[00:08:45] So yeah, there was still lots of time for them to not act like fucks. Lots of time meeting like

[00:08:50] a decade, decade and a half. Yeah. Right. But they did it though. Then Jeremiah called Baruch,

[00:08:57] the son of Nariah and he was like bitch right this down. Right. Yeah. And Baruch's like, didn't

[00:09:02] God tell you? And Jeremiah's like shut up and do what I say. And Baruch, like, and Baruch

[00:09:09] Rodon wrote on a scroll of a book at the instruction of Jeremiah all the words of the Lord which he had

[00:09:17] spoken to him. Okay. That's a lot of fucking words. Yeah. I think it's hilarious that I mean,

[00:09:23] that they're essentially, they're the ones telling the story. And they're like and Baruch did this

[00:09:28] thing that he's doing right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Baruch's like Baruch's like and Jeremiah told me

[00:09:36] to write this down and Jeremiah is like no, talk about yourself in the third person. Right. And Jeremiah's

[00:09:42] or Baruch is like oh, okay. Yeah. Apparently that happens somewhat frequently in the new testament

[00:09:50] with some of those apostolic guys. Is it more like is it supposed to be more authoritative when you talk

[00:09:54] about yourself in the third person? I don't know. Okay. I honestly, I just, you know, and Jeremiah

[00:10:01] commanded Baruch saying I am confined. I cannot go into the house of the Lord because he's like

[00:10:09] in prison or some shit. Okay. So you go therefore and read from the scroll which you have written at my

[00:10:15] instruction the words of the Lord in the hearing of the people in the Lord's house on the day of

[00:10:20] fasting. Wait, they've imprisoned you for saying the shit that you say. Yeah. You want me to write

[00:10:26] this shit down and then go say it in front of those same people so that what I can get imprisoned?

[00:10:30] Yes. Exactly. I'm glad you understand me. This is that's bullshit. No. Baruch do what I tell you.

[00:10:38] Okay. Just go. I just go. I think that's rude. No. Okay. Do you want to be my equal?

[00:10:47] Do you want to be a prophet guy someday? I don't know. I mean, I don't pay shit. Doesn't sound like

[00:10:54] you do. No. Baruch. Yeah. I'm going to tell your dad. Yeah. Okay. So let me go over to my notes

[00:11:02] a bit. Okay. With regard to Jeremiah commanding Baruch saying he's confined. Jeremiah may have

[00:11:10] been hindered through fear of Joaquim because he was not actually in prison. He was just confined.

[00:11:17] So he was kind of free to go within the temple. Yeah. Which is where this is taking place. Got it.

[00:11:22] Okay. Okay. So he may have just been scared or perhaps do to ceremonial and uncleanness. Like it

[00:11:30] might have been a bad day. He might have like ejaculated for maybe or I don't know. Sure.

[00:11:35] His undies. Yeah. Right. Or he may have been forbidden by the princes to enter. Got it. So

[00:11:42] for whatever reason, he was I think that he was just like, yeah, Baruch you do it. You go do it.

[00:11:49] Got it. I'm not going to go you go. That's what it sounds like to me. Got it. Okay. So then also

[00:11:57] when I said now it was the oh no, I didn't say that yet. Nothing. Sorry. Okay. So he's like Baruch go

[00:12:07] read this shit. Okay. And do it in the hearing of the people in the Lord's house on the day of fasting.

[00:12:15] Okay. Okay. I'm going to say some more about that in a minute and you shall also read them

[00:12:20] in the hearing of all Judah who come from their cities. It may be that they will present their

[00:12:26] supplication before the Lord and everyone will turn from his evil ways for great is the anger

[00:12:32] and the fury that the Lord has pronounced against his people if they don't change their way. Yeah.

[00:12:38] Yeah. Yeah. God is pissed. Go read this. Right. Okay. They totally won't get mad at you.

[00:12:44] Right. Yeah. And Baruch the son of Nariah did according to all that Jeremiah the prophet commanded

[00:12:50] him reading from the book the words of the Lord in the Lord's house. Now it came to pass in the

[00:12:58] fifth year of Joziah King of Judah in the ninth month that they proclaimed a fast before the Lord

[00:13:07] to all the people in Jerusalem and to all the people who came from the cities of Judah to Jerusalem.

[00:13:14] Okay. So that's what I wanted to say a few things about. Okay. First of all notice that it was the

[00:13:20] people who proclaimed the fast not the king. Okay. So what are they fasting about? Why was there

[00:13:26] just a random fast declared? Right. The fast was related to the fall of Ashclon on the Philistine

[00:13:35] territory by the Babylonian army. Okay. A city fell and so the people were like fasting. Okay. Got

[00:13:42] it. And this probably took place around November of 604 BCE. Okay. And this event was recorded in the

[00:13:51] Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle and I was like, I'm sorry excuse you what? Right. What is that? Yeah,

[00:13:56] I'll tell you that in just a sec because you know I looked at shit up. Right. Okay. And this event

[00:14:01] may have caused a little bit of terror in Judah because they had just allied themselves with Egypt

[00:14:08] since the death of Josiah in 609. Okay. Okay. So they're like, oh fuck me. So they declared a fast.

[00:14:15] Got it. Okay. So okay. I'm sorry. Let's go back to Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle now. Yeah. Right?

[00:14:21] What the fuck is that? Right. It's also known as the Jerusalem Chronicle and it's one of the series

[00:14:28] of Babylonian Chronicles and it contains a description of the first 11 years of the reign of

[00:14:35] Nebuchadnezzar II. Yeah. What? All right. The tablet details Nebuchadnezzar's military campaigns

[00:14:41] in the West and has been interpreted to refer to both the Battle of Karsha Mish and the Siege

[00:14:48] of Jerusalem in 597 BCE. Oh wow. Right. Yeah. And the tablet itself is currently stored in the British

[00:14:56] museum. I think we talked about this once before. No, that was a different tablet. Are you sure? Yes.

[00:15:02] Okay. Yes. All right. Yeah. I was very excited about this. All right. Okay. Also,

[00:15:09] they have found seals of many of the people, Baruch being one of them. Yeah. That not all of them

[00:15:17] have been like quote unquote authenticated. Sure. But they have found things that suggest that some

[00:15:24] of these people actually existed. Got it. Yeah. So that's very cool. Which I mean, that makes sense. We've

[00:15:30] the bit of research that we have done kind of indicates that the whole Jeremiah and Baruch thing is

[00:15:36] pretty well established as you know. Yeah. It's a thing that probably happened. Right. Maybe not

[00:15:41] the way that the Bible records it is happening with all the magic and God stuff. Right. We're right.

[00:15:46] But that relationship, that entity of writers, that whatever those guys they existed. Yeah. Right.

[00:15:52] I just I don't know every time that happens, I'm like, that's cool because I like history. Yeah.

[00:15:58] All right. So then Baruch read from the book of the words of Jeremiah in the house of the Lord

[00:16:05] in the chamber of Gamaraya, the son of Shafan the scribe in the upper court at the entry of the new

[00:16:12] gate of the Lord's house in the hearing of all the people. Okay. That's a lot of guys. Yeah. Did you

[00:16:17] get all that? Sure. Okay. When Makaya, the son of Gamaraya, the son of Shafan, heard all the words

[00:16:26] of the Lord from the book. He then went down to the king's house into the scribes chamber and there

[00:16:32] all the princes were sitting. Alashama, the scribe, the liar, the son of Shemaia, Elmathan,

[00:16:39] the son of Akbore, Gamaraya, the son of Shafan, Zedakaya, the son of Hananiah and all the princes.

[00:16:47] And so a lot of those seals of those guys have been found. Okay. Yeah. So I mean, that's just cool.

[00:16:54] Then Makaya declared to them all the words that he had heard when Baruch read the book in the hearing

[00:17:01] of the people. Therefore, all the princes sent Jehudai, the son of Nethanaya. Yeah. Sorry. I thought

[00:17:12] I was going to say Nethaniel and then my house got ahead of me. Nethanaya, the son of Shemaia,

[00:17:17] the son of Kushi, Tuberuk saying, take in your hand the scroll from what you have read in

[00:17:24] the hearing of the people and come. They're like, this is this news, this thing you're reading.

[00:17:30] This sound sounds important. So come, we got some guys you need to read this too. Okay. All right.

[00:17:36] So Baruch, the son of N'araya took the scroll in his hand and came to them. These prince guys. Yeah.

[00:17:41] Okay. And they said to him, sit down now and read it in our hearing. So they were like, we have

[00:17:46] some princes that might need to hear this. Okay. So Baruch read it in their hearing. Okay. Yeah. So

[00:17:53] let me go back to my notes here and Jewish traditions suggest that the, oh, I'm not there yet.

[00:17:59] Nothing. Okay. Yeah. That'll come in a minute. Okay. So now it happened when they had heard all

[00:18:05] the words, the princes that were like interested that they looked in fear from one to another and said

[00:18:11] to Baruch, oh shit. That's what they said. But they were like, we will surely tell the king

[00:18:18] of all these words. They were like, oh, king's going to want to know about this because this is bad.

[00:18:24] And they asked Baruch saying, tell us now, how did you write all these words at his instruction?

[00:18:30] So Baruch answered them. He proclaimed with his mouth not his butt, all these words to me.

[00:18:36] And I wrote them with ink in the book. Jeremiah proclaimed them to you. Yeah.

[00:18:41] Or is he saying God proclaimed them to him? Baruch answered them. He proclaimed with his mouth,

[00:18:46] Jeremiah proclaimed with his mouth these words to me and I wrote them with ink. Right. I'm just saying

[00:18:53] it would carry more authority if it was coming directly from God, right? Well, yeah. But they're

[00:18:59] saying, Baruch, how did you come by this? And Baruch is saying, well, you know that prophet guy?

[00:19:04] Jeremiah, he told me to write this shit down. But they don't like him. So I'm not like this

[00:19:08] whole like political aspect of this thing. I'm not really understanding some of them do. Okay.

[00:19:12] Some of them are so this is the way of getting around the, yeah, snubbing of Jeremiah to read

[00:19:20] some of the people that might actually want to hear what he has to say exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

[00:19:25] They're trying to spread the word to people that might be able to help. Okay. Okay.

[00:19:31] That are in positions of power that might actually want to know about this and act on it. Got it.

[00:19:38] So then the princess said to Baruch, go and hide you and Jeremiah and let no one know where you are.

[00:19:44] Okay. Okay. So that's where I cut myself off. Okay. Jewish tradition suggests that the place

[00:19:50] of concealment was with the so called quote, grotto of Jeremiah which is located outside the Damascus gate.

[00:19:58] Okay. Okay. So I don't know how much credence to put in that, but there is a Jewish tradition that

[00:20:05] says that that's where it was. Yeah. Okay. These people were really like not well thought of though.

[00:20:10] Apparently because they had to hide out and get their message spread in different ways.

[00:20:14] Yeah. But these are princesses. So these guys are like okay, we got you. But yeah. But I mean

[00:20:22] like when you get higher up into political circles, there are people that want to hear different

[00:20:26] messages. And if it serves them to hear that message, then like they're probably seeing the reality,

[00:20:32] right? Like the hey, these these fucking people are coming to attack us and we need to

[00:20:37] motivate people to do something about it. Right. And you know, if this is the way to do it,

[00:20:43] then we should go with this. But like, you know, if it's not what people want to hear,

[00:20:48] you still have to hide the messenger is not going to be well thought of overall, but it might serve

[00:20:54] their political purposes. That is true. That's true. Okay, so these guys, they went to the king

[00:21:00] into the court, but they stored the scroll in the chamber of al-Ashama the scribe. Okay, and

[00:21:06] they told all the words in the hearing of the king. So they didn't take the scribe or the people with

[00:21:11] them. They just went and told the king themselves like king guy, we got a story to tell you. Yeah.

[00:21:17] And you really want to hear this. This is bad. Okay. So the king sent Jehudi to bring the scroll.

[00:21:23] Okay. He's like, no, I don't, I need to see this for myself. Right. Right. Okay. And he took it from

[00:21:29] al-Ashama the scribe's chamber and Jehudi read it in the hearing of the king and in the hearing

[00:21:34] of all the princes who stood beside the king. Now, the king was sitting in the winter house

[00:21:40] in the ninth month with a fire burning on the hearth before him. Okay. So when they say he's sitting

[00:21:46] in his winter house, um, it wasn't like an entirely different house. It was just like the wing

[00:21:51] of the house built for winter. Yes, got it where they had fires going and it the best of the sun

[00:21:58] making use of that. Sure. Okay. And it happened when Jehudi had read three or four columns

[00:22:04] that the king cut it with the scribe's knife and cast it into the fire that was on the hearth

[00:22:09] until all the scroll was consumed in the fire that was on the hearth. So this is political. Oh yeah.

[00:22:14] Like 100%. 100%. Yeah. Okay. Let me tell you a little bit about this. Yeah. Okay.

[00:22:20] It has been estimated that the scroll containing Jeremiah's prophecies was a fairly extensive

[00:22:27] collection containing several multiples of three or four columns of writing. Because don't forget

[00:22:33] these are scrolls not books, right? Yeah. Okay. Also another note scribes use small sharp knives

[00:22:41] to trim their read pens. So like cutting wouldn't have necessarily been easy. Okay.

[00:22:49] As all ancient Hebrew manuscripts sheets found to date were made of either leather or vellum

[00:22:55] instead of papyrus, it would have been difficult to cut through them with just a scribe's knife.

[00:23:00] Okay. Scholars therefore conclude that the scroll was likely cut sheet by sheet at the sutures

[00:23:08] where they were put together. Right. Right. Okay. Um, this this part is so interesting to me. Probably

[00:23:14] too many details for you. But I just think this is so interesting. Yeah. Researchers have studied the

[00:23:20] average number of lines per column and the average number of words per line in ancient Hebrew

[00:23:27] biblical manuscripts to estimate that the text in one of the columns of writing described in this

[00:23:33] verse, we contain a little bit more than one chapter of Jeremiah. Okay. Right. So therefore

[00:23:40] it has been estimated that the scroll destroyed in the presence of King Joachim would have contained

[00:23:46] between 18 to 24 chapters of the book of Jeremiah. Oh wow. Which may form the major parts of the first

[00:23:54] 25 chapters in the current version of the book. Okay. So 25 chapters basically he cut up and tossed

[00:24:04] into the fire. Got it. Yeah. I just, I don't know that like made it feel more, I could understand what

[00:24:11] was happening more right. You know, yeah. And scroll to book. I don't know how that translates. Sure.

[00:24:17] It's like miles to kilometers. Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. So he's doing this and he's cutting it up and

[00:24:24] he throws it in the fire that was on the hearth yet they the princes were not afraid nor did they tear

[00:24:30] their garments, the king or any of his servants who heard all these words. Okay. Nobody was worried

[00:24:36] or scared. Okay. Yeah. Nevertheless, Elnathan, Delaya and Gamaraya implored the king not to burn

[00:24:45] the scroll. They were like, dude, King my guy. I don't think that was smart but he would not listen

[00:24:52] to them. And the king commanded Jeremiah, the king's son, Saraya, the son of Azrael and

[00:24:59] Shalamaya, the son of Abdel to seize Baruch the scribe and Jeremiah the prophet but the Lord hit them.

[00:25:08] The Lord hid them or the princes said, hey, hide. Yeah. Because they had already done. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:13] They were already hiding. Right. They knew this was not going to go over. That's why the princess

[00:25:18] that's why Jeremiah told Baruch to do it. And that's why the princess said, you both need to hide.

[00:25:23] That's why I keep saying this all sounds very this is very political. This is a very political. Yeah.

[00:25:29] Much of like information. This is a nation. Right. Is the word you're looking for? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:34] Yeah. I like that word and that's perfect here. Right. Yes. Now after the king had burned the scroll with

[00:25:40] the words which Baruch had written at the instruction of Jeremiah, the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah saying,

[00:25:48] you know, this whole scroll is gone. Everything that you just wrote all those hundreds of words 25

[00:25:54] is chapters, right? Right. Right. Okay. Take yet another scroll and write on it all the former words

[00:26:01] that were in the first scroll which walk came the king of Judah has burned. And you shall say to

[00:26:06] walk him King of Judah thus says the Lord, you fuckers have burned this scroll saying why have you

[00:26:15] written in it that the king of Babylon will certainly come and destroy this land and cause man

[00:26:19] and beast to cease from here. Therefore thus says the Lord concerning walk came King of Judah, he shall

[00:26:26] have no one to sit on the throne of fucking David and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of

[00:26:31] the day and the frost of the night. Are you taking note here? I'm telling you to write this shit down.

[00:26:35] Right. You doing it? I'm telling you to write it on top of all the other shit that you already wrote.

[00:26:40] Right. Like yeah, you already told them that a hundred times. Yeah. They got it. Right.

[00:26:45] Okay. God's still talking. I will punish him his fucking family, his fucking servants and all

[00:26:52] for their iniquity. What the fuck the servants? Yeah. That's bullshit. Yeah. I'm punishing everybody.

[00:26:57] I'm God. I'm pre pre pre capricious. Yeah. I'm petty. I am vengeful. I'm a jealous god. But

[00:27:04] but the thing is though this king is petty and jealous and ventual, right? He's the one dismissing

[00:27:10] out of hand these these notes and it's his decision as to whether he's going to make moves to change

[00:27:18] things with regard to this information or not. Right. And yet everybody he knows and hasn't.

[00:27:23] I'm God. I can't have time for that. I don't want to hear that. I'm just saying it's kind of a

[00:27:27] shit move. I'm God. I don't want to hear it. Right. Okay. I mean, that is like those those cartoons on

[00:27:35] YouTube where all the time he just goes, right? Right. Right. Like that's his sole answer like

[00:27:41] because I'm God. Yeah. Because I said so. Right. And I will bring on them and on the inhabitants of

[00:27:48] Jerusalem and on the men of Judah, all the fucking doom that I have pronounced against them, but they

[00:27:54] did not heed. Okay. So I mean we're basically catching back up to where we were before. You know,

[00:28:01] like remember that time when we already this already happened and then we had to go back and be

[00:28:07] like, this is what happened. And now we're back to okay. So anyway, yeah. Then Jeremiah took another

[00:28:14] scroll and gave it to Baruch the scribe, the son of Nariah who wrote on it at the instruction of Jeremiah

[00:28:20] all the words of the book which walk him King of Judah had burned in the fire. Ambitize that were

[00:28:27] added to them many similar words. The end. Okay. So that is why this chapter so fucking repetitive

[00:28:34] and stupid because they were like writing it down over and over and over again. I guess. Yeah.

[00:28:40] That's my that's my guess. That that that whole chapter seemed somewhat pointless. Like here,

[00:28:47] write these words down and then go take them to the king and then the king's going to not like them

[00:28:53] and then write them down again. I mean, yeah. You could have said that so much quicker than what you

[00:28:57] did. Yeah. The king didn't listen. God's going to destroy him and everybody because they're not going

[00:29:03] to write. I mean like there was there was there's just nothing new there. You know, it was cool

[00:29:10] finding out that there's some dudes in the castle, some prince guys that are like higher up that are

[00:29:18] kind of yeah, the political intrigue was a nice touch. I like that. But overall the message was not

[00:29:24] really new information or anything. It's still God's am I getcha? Yeah. You find it. I do I do

[00:29:31] really like the idea of seeing this through a political lens though. Yes. Because to me it's

[00:29:37] it's what was actually happening. Like that. Now I can't say that with authority but to me that's

[00:29:43] how it feels. I just like feels like it's a political thing. I want to read this book. You know what I

[00:29:49] mean? Yeah. Like I want to see this movie. I want to watch this many series on Netflix. Right. Right.

[00:29:56] But without all the gobbledy good god stuff, I just want the political intrigue stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:30:01] Like I want the guys sitting in the back room going okay, how do we get the people? Okay,

[00:30:08] we got to praise it that God said. Like that's the story I want. Well and you in for that matter,

[00:30:13] you could actually take out every reference to God and just make this about the impending

[00:30:19] doom coming in from Babylon. Yeah. And how to prepare for it and why we should prepare for it.

[00:30:25] It could be a whole different conversation really. Yes. That doesn't even have to involve God.

[00:30:30] Yes. That's like I said, that's the story I want to read. Right. That's the movie I want to watch.

[00:30:35] That's the show I want to binge. Yeah. So somebody get on that.

[00:30:41] All right, well that was Jeremiah chapter 36. Sure. Fuck was. Which means that we'll be back tomorrow with

[00:30:47] Jeremiah chapter 37. All right. We'll see you then. Okey dokey.

[00:30:57] Husband. wife. Where have we been? What's happening? What's going on? Sick as fuck is where we've been.

[00:31:02] Well, that's where you've been. That's where I've been. Hello man. It means to be like a stipulation

[00:31:07] before any family outing that if you've been sick prior to the outing, don't fucking show up.

[00:31:13] Yeah. Just saying. Yeah. That's just, you know, it's just good manners. Right. Right.

[00:31:18] Because if you have been sick and then the next day you go to a family outing,

[00:31:25] you're the asshole because you are literally getting your family sick. That being said,

[00:31:29] I love my family very much. I too love your family very much, but I am suffering consequences.

[00:31:35] You are suffering and I am suffering as a consequence of you suffering consequences. Yeah.

[00:31:41] So anyway, I've been I've been sick. Yeah. And so we haven't done a podcast in a couple of days. No,

[00:31:47] sorry. But I believe the last thing that we did was Jeremiah chapter 36. That is correct, sir.

[00:31:54] And in that one, I believe God told Jeremiah to write down all the shit that he said.

[00:32:01] And so Jeremiah was like, Hey, brook right down all the shit that I said. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:32:07] He passed the book. Yeah. And then he told Root to bring it to some people that were going to

[00:32:13] listen to him. And they were like, oh man, that's cool. That's how legit. We should totally take

[00:32:19] that to the king and then they took it to the king and the king was like, put that shit in the

[00:32:22] fire. Fuck off. Yeah. And then they rewrote it again because God wanted to write it.

[00:32:27] God was like rewrite it. Yeah. And Jeremiah was like, brook you heard the God.

[00:32:32] And then Baruch was like, actually I didn't and Jeremiah was like, do I have to do everything myself?

[00:32:38] So that was Jeremiah chapter 36. Sure. Fuck was. Which means that today we're getting into.

[00:32:44] Jeremiah chapter 37. Oh right. Let's do this. Okie dokie.

[00:32:53] All right. We are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 37. Okay. Couple notes before we start.

[00:33:06] This chapter is numbered as Jeremiah chapter 44 in the Septuagint which is the Greek translation. Yeah.

[00:33:16] This also is the start of a narrative section. So it's like a story of its own.

[00:33:24] Starting here chapter 37 through chapter 44. Got it. Okay. So that's what's happening.

[00:33:31] Okay. Yep. Now Kings et a cia, the son of Josiah, reigned instead of caniah, the son of Joachim

[00:33:41] whom Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon made king in the land of Judah. So somebody was ruling this

[00:33:47] Nebuchadnezzar didn't want to rule. Okay. Here's the thing. The reign of caniah or

[00:33:54] jack aniah depending on who you talk to. Yeah. Right. It was very short. It lasted only a few

[00:34:00] months of 598 BCE. Yeah. Me too. Right. Okay. Yeah. His reign ended so quickly because Nebuchadnezzar

[00:34:07] came for a second time to subject Jerusalem under his control. Do you remember that? Yes. Okay.

[00:34:14] In taking the throne, Zedekiah was pledged to obey Nebuchadnezzar. Okay. Now because of the

[00:34:22] Egyptian influence at court, Zedekiah decided to break his pledge with Babylon which was the

[00:34:30] immediate cause of the final siege of Jerusalem. Okay. All right. So that's politics. Yes. Lots

[00:34:38] of politics. Okay. Yep. But neither he nor his servants nor the people of the land gave heed to

[00:34:44] the words of the Lord which he spoke by the prophet Jeremiah. Okay. Okay. And Zedekiah, the king,

[00:34:52] sent Jayakal, the son of Shalamaya and Zephanaya, the son of Messiah, the priest to the prophet Jeremiah.

[00:35:04] Okay. Okay. So Zedekiah sent two guys. Yep. Yep. Yep. Saying pray now to the Lord our God for us. So

[00:35:13] Zedekiah is in a bit of a bind and he's like you two dudes go talk to Jeremiah. See if he can help

[00:35:19] us with the God dude. Yeah. Like shit is getting real. Right. I'm not prepared to like publicly

[00:35:28] be like oopsie my bad. Okay. Sorry, God. But go see if he can maybe like secret a deal for us. Right.

[00:35:34] Right. Yeah. Okay. Now Jeremiah was coming and going among the people for they had not yet put him

[00:35:40] in prison. So this is before that time. Right. Cause Baruch don't know how to tell story straight

[00:35:45] because you know Baruch is writing this shit down. Yeah. Yeah. He wrote this shit all out of order.

[00:35:50] You know what? You want a job done well? We don't know we don't know that he wrote a lot of

[00:35:56] order. We know that somebody put it in here. No, I'm blaming Baruch. Okay. I'm blaming Baruch.

[00:36:01] He's like make me write this shit. I'll show you. He wrote it all down but he wrote it all out

[00:36:06] of order. That's what I think happened. And Jeremiah was like as they were running from the Babylonians,

[00:36:11] like they just lost the drop in the ground and they picked up off in the wrong order.

[00:36:16] Well Baruch wasn't the one running. Well, I'm just saying you know maybe they were

[00:36:20] they weren't heard to get somewhere and they just dropped them and that's how they ended up you know?

[00:36:24] I don't know. I think that Baruch was a little bit salty. Okay. Because he's like make me write this

[00:36:31] shit. God told you to do it asshole. Well there's been lots of scholars between now and then

[00:36:36] that could have put this back in the right order even back when they still rearrange that. Okay,

[00:36:40] I will give you that. So I don't really buy that. I will give you that except maybe,

[00:36:46] maybe they had notes that we don't have that said Jeremiah's a prick. Let's put this let's keep

[00:36:53] this out of order just as like yeah. Okay. I'm just saying it could be. Yeah. It could be.

[00:36:59] Right. Okay. Um then Pharaoh's army came up from Egypt and when the Chaldeans who were

[00:37:06] besieging Jerusalem heard news of them. They departed from Jerusalem. So we've heard this story.

[00:37:11] Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Then the word of the Lord came to the prophet Jeremiah saying, thus says the Lord

[00:37:18] the God of Israel. Thus you shall say to the king of Judah who sent you to me to inquire of me.

[00:37:25] Behold Pharaoh's army which has come up to you or I'm sorry which has come up to help you

[00:37:31] will return to Egypt to their own land. So he's like saying I'm going to help you for yeah,

[00:37:37] I don't know why y'all depending on them stupid got it and the Chaldeans shall come back

[00:37:42] and fight against this city and take it and burn it with fire. Okay. Okay. Thus says the Lord do not

[00:37:50] deceive yourself saying the Chaldeans will surely depart from us for they will not depart.

[00:37:55] For though you had defeated the whole army of the Chaldeans who fight against you and there

[00:38:00] remained only wounded men among them. They still would rise up every man in his tent and burn the

[00:38:06] fucking city with fire. So he's like even if they only had 10 broken men left those people would

[00:38:12] destroy the city. Yeah. Y'all y'all need to lay down arms because this is not happening. I kind of

[00:38:18] doubt they only had 10 people left though. No, no. But God is saying even if that were the case.

[00:38:23] Right. He's not saying that was the case. He's saying I'm telling you now even if this happened

[00:38:29] sure y'all was still fucking lose. But I don't believe him. No, I don't either. So I don't

[00:38:34] need there. All right. So I have some notes. Yeah. Okay. So it says that um

[00:38:42] Pharaoh's army came up from Egypt. Yeah. The Pharaoh that they're talking about is Hoffra or

[00:38:48] Aparis just depends because it spelled different ways. Okay. Okay. But it's the same guy and he was

[00:38:54] the fourth king of the 26th dynasty of Egypt. And he ruled from 598 to about 570 BCE. Okay. Yeah.

[00:39:06] He forged an alliance with Zedakaya to rebel against Babylon sending an army in the summer of

[00:39:12] 588 BCE. Okay. Yeah. This caused the Chaldeans to temporarily lift the siege in Jerusalem

[00:39:20] to deal with the Egyptians. However, he retreated before actually joining the battle,

[00:39:25] leaving Jerusalem to fall to the Babylonians in 587 BCE. Got it. Okay. Yeah. So that's where we sit.

[00:39:33] Okay. Okay. And it happened when the army of the Chaldeans left the siege of Jerusalem for

[00:39:40] fear of Pharaoh's army that Jeremiah went out of Jerusalem to go into the land of Benjamin to claim

[00:39:46] his property there among the people. This is where he bought the where he had bought that land. Yeah.

[00:39:50] And there's like some question like, what do you mean he left Jerusalem to go into the land of

[00:39:55] Benjamin? Like he literally bought land in Jerusalem? What the fuck are you talking about? Well,

[00:40:01] Benjamin was a separate section of it wasn't Jerusalem. It wasn't Jerusalem's a city, right?

[00:40:06] Yes. But that's what I'm saying. Remember when he was in jail and he bought land? Yeah. He

[00:40:11] bought land in Jerusalem. Okay. And this says he went out of Jerusalem to go into the land of Benjamin.

[00:40:19] And so people are like, wait, what? Got it. Okay. But they're thinking that maybe there was like a

[00:40:27] misunderstanding of how it was written or translated and that probably he went with a bunch of

[00:40:32] Benjamin mites, Benjamin nights. Okay. Well, I think this is it's really weird that we're like

[00:40:39] this is the same same exact story we've heard just a different way. Like yeah, you know, like we've

[00:40:44] already heard this almost no not not this part. We heard about the army and the war and that part.

[00:40:52] Yeah. But we also heard him about him by the land. No, we heard about him buying the land.

[00:40:56] We did not hear about him. Now he's going to go see his land. Right. Okay. All right. This is not

[00:41:02] the same part of that story. Okay. And when he was in the gate of Benjamin, a captain of the guard

[00:41:08] was there whose name was Arraja, the son of Shalamaya, the son of Hanina and he seized Jeremiah

[00:41:16] the prophet saying you're going to love this. Okay. Okay. Ready? You in particular are going to

[00:41:22] love this. This is what the guard said. You are defecting to the child ends exactly what I've been

[00:41:29] saying. Right. That's why I said you're going to love this right then Jeremiah goes false. I am not

[00:41:34] defecting to the child ends. Do you believe him? No. Right. No because this whole thing is whatever.

[00:41:40] I know you've been saying this whole time. I'm pretty sure he's a god damn spy for Babylon. Right.

[00:41:45] Yeah. That's the way it's been. Yeah. I mean, it's way sounds. Yeah. Exactly. But he didn't

[00:41:50] always listen to him. The guard didn't listen to the arguments. So Arraja, is that how I said it

[00:41:55] before? Arraja seized Jeremiah and brought him to the princess. Good on him. Right. Yeah. Okay.

[00:42:03] These are different princes than the princes before he went to jail. Okay. Right. And that's

[00:42:08] important because these guys, they don't like them. No. Okay. Therefore, the princes were angry

[00:42:13] with Jeremiah and they struck him and put him in prison in the house of Jonathan the scribe,

[00:42:19] you know, Jonathan. I mean, this really vindicates a lot of my ideas that I had there. Like,

[00:42:23] they're probably angry at it because it seems like he's at least as plausible that he is what he

[00:42:28] was in league. Yeah. It may be not working against them so much as like in league with the Babylon.

[00:42:34] Like he might not be actively working against Jerusalem or whatever, but he clearly was trying to

[00:42:42] play both sides. Yeah. So to save his own ass. Right. So, but they had made that the prison,

[00:42:49] you know, Jonathan the scribe. Sure. Right? Yep. Okay. So now I have some notes. So let's go back

[00:42:56] and read some notes. Okay. All right. This was some 15 years after the sympathetic princes of Judah

[00:43:03] described in the previous chapter. Okay. Okay. So remember, I told you different guys. Right. Okay.

[00:43:08] A new generation because 15 years later, a new generation and new conditions brought forth

[00:43:13] leaders with absolutely no sympathy to Jeremiah or his message. Got it. They were like, nah. Sure.

[00:43:21] Temporary arrangements had been made to incarcerate Jeremiah in the house of the secretary of state.

[00:43:28] Okay. Okay. That's who this Jonathan the scribe was. Okay. Right. And cisterns were sometimes used

[00:43:34] to imprison arrested people and that is a pit or a hole where the prisoner could neither walk nor

[00:43:41] comfortably lie. Okay. So when they sound just like a hole in the ground, basically,

[00:43:46] that's exactly what it is. Got it. So that's what the prison is. Okay. Yeah. When Jeremiah entered

[00:43:51] the dungeon and the cells, dungeon, like we all have a dungeon in our house. Jonathan the scribe has

[00:43:57] one. We have one. You know, you know how you do, right? Right. So anyway, when Jeremiah entered

[00:44:03] the dungeon and the cells and Jeremiah had remained there many days, then Zedekaya the king sent

[00:44:10] and took him out. The king asked him secretly in his house and said, hey, is there any word from

[00:44:17] the Lord? Can you keep this on the DL? And Jeremiah said, Hey, as a matter of fact, there is. Okay.

[00:44:26] Then he said, you shall be delivered into the hands of the king of Babylon. Boom. Even though you

[00:44:31] stuck me in a fucking cistern, my story hasn't changed. Right. That's awfully brave. Yeah, it is.

[00:44:39] Right. Moreover, I mean, I guess it's supposed to lend credence to his is really sane. He's

[00:44:45] literally getting out of jail going to talk to the king and telling the king, no, you're still fucked.

[00:44:49] Yeah. Yeah. So that's yeah. I think that he totally knew what was coming though and was like,

[00:44:56] it doesn't matter if you kill me now or not. Like it's still coming. Right. Like whatever.

[00:45:03] Well, to be fair, if he was working with, if he did know that the Babylonians, the Chalians or whatever

[00:45:10] are going to be that much of a force and destroying them. Yeah. Even if he just knew that intuitively

[00:45:17] right, whether it be from God or not, right? That's what I'm saying. Or if he had some inside

[00:45:21] information either way, but if you have this idea that they were going to destroy them,

[00:45:26] it's better to be on their side. Like it's better to not, it's better to say, yeah, they're

[00:45:32] going to totally whip our ass. Then they just say, no, we're going to stand up and fight against them.

[00:45:36] Right. Exactly because your name is attached to ringleader, right? Fighting against instead of

[00:45:44] maybe he's got a chance if Zedekaya doesn't have him killed, maybe he's got a chance to survive

[00:45:49] after I told you, like I was saying you guys would take over the whole time.

[00:45:52] Remember thank you for that insider information. Yeah. I did try to help you. You will recall

[00:45:58] and I was jailed as a matter of fact. Right. So could you not? Yeah. I just can't buy that it's

[00:46:05] God when there's so much other politics going on with regard to the Egyptians and everything else.

[00:46:09] Exactly. Exactly. Okay, but Jeremiah had more to say. Okay. Moreover, Jeremiah said to kings at

[00:46:15] Akhaya, what offense have I committed against you against your servants or against this people

[00:46:20] that you put me in fucking prison? Where now are your prophets who prophecy to you saying the

[00:46:28] king of Babylon will not come against you or against this land. So he's got a fair point. Yeah,

[00:46:33] and those guys are gone because they were like no, no, that will only come what get the book out

[00:46:42] of here. This is great. Everything's fine. It's fine. Nothing's going to happen. We're fine.

[00:46:47] And so now he's like, do you see them? I don't see them. They're not here. So what's up?

[00:46:52] Right. Why are you mad at me? I'm the one that told you this was happening from the some of

[00:46:56] a get go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Therefore please hear now. Oh my lord, the fucking king. Please let

[00:47:04] my petition be accepted before you and do not make me return to the house of Jonathan the scribe.

[00:47:11] Let's die there. Right. Yeah. Okay. So, um, yeah. Sorry. I thought I might have had another note.

[00:47:20] No, you're good. Okay. Don't have another note. Was that so was that? Oh, no, this is a little

[00:47:24] bit left. I was just checking to make sure I didn't have any notes on that little side. Got it. Got it.

[00:47:27] Okay. No, we're almost done. Hang tight. Okay. I'm hanging then Zedekaya the king commanded

[00:47:34] that they should commit Jeremiah to the court of the prison and that they should give him daily a

[00:47:39] piece of bread from the Baker Street until all the bread in the city was gone. So he's still going

[00:47:44] to imprison him. Yeah. Just not as badly. That's Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison,

[00:47:49] the end. I see. Yeah. So he's like, well, you gave me bad information. So not bad information.

[00:47:56] You gave me information. I didn't want to hear. So I'm still got a I'm on a three in jail, but

[00:48:01] I'm not going to put you in a pit. I'm going to put you in white collar jail. Yeah.

[00:48:04] Instead of like, I'm going to put you in the prison that if Trump ever went to prison,

[00:48:10] he would go to that prison instead of like where all the rapists and bad guys go. Right.

[00:48:15] He's like technically yes, you've been the one that's right. Been right most. You're right. You're

[00:48:19] right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I want to prison you

[00:48:21] real hard. Yeah. I still I mean, you still were clearly working with the challenge. Yeah,

[00:48:26] I just can't get over that. Like I'm just he's he's I don't know what it just the whole thing. I

[00:48:32] mean, we're reading this from his perspective. Right. And even from his perspective, it still looks

[00:48:37] like nod to right. Yeah. If you're writing in it as I still think like without even somebody telling

[00:48:42] me that you might be a double agent or something. Yeah. Then you probably are right. You know,

[00:48:48] yeah. But what do I know? I mean, I wasn't around back then. So I don't know. It just seems

[00:48:53] that way. It just they thought it apparently. Right. That I knew we were going to really makes me happy.

[00:48:58] I knew you were going to enjoy that. Yeah. I was very excited about that little portion for you.

[00:49:03] Like, oh, husband's going to sleep good tonight. Yeah. He was vindicated by a guard in the Bible.

[00:49:08] Right. Right. Yeah. All right. Well, that was Jeremiah chapter 37. Sure.

[00:49:13] As fuck was which means that assuming we're not sick again, right? We will be back tomorrow with

[00:49:19] Jeremiah chapter 38 Apologies for being off schedule. We're trying to catch up. Yeah. Thank you

[00:49:25] and good night. Yeah. Bye.

[00:49:32] Husband wife. Um, two in a row. What? Hey, what we're recording two in the same day.

[00:49:39] Well, we are a bit behind. So yeah. We wanted to catch up a little bit and get things back on track

[00:49:44] here. But we just finished Jeremiah chapter 37. That is correct. Do you remember what happened?

[00:49:51] Well, um, let's see. I think well, the important bit is this I think is that they, uh,

[00:49:58] the Israelites recognize that Jeremiah is actually a spy.

[00:50:05] I mean, okay. The, the Jerusalem guys did not specifically be like, no, no, he's a fucking spy.

[00:50:14] He's a fucking spy. Like that wasn't declared by Jerusalem, but a guard certainly did say those

[00:50:20] words right? Yeah. They threw him in a pit. Yeah. And then, um, King Zedekaya asked his opinion

[00:50:25] about something and then they threw him in the better jail. The better jail. I mean, the last pit like

[00:50:31] jail. The last pit like jail. Yeah. Yeah. The good jail instead of the bad jail. Right. And it was

[00:50:35] a story that we'd heard before it was though in the Babylonians went to go fight, um, Egypt instead

[00:50:41] of Israel. There was a cease in the siege and all that wonderful stuff. But they were like,

[00:50:46] hang on, you just sit right here. Don't go anywhere. Right. Yeah. I'll deal with you in just a minute.

[00:50:51] So that was Jeremiah chapter 37. Sure as fuck was. Which means that we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 38.

[00:50:59] All right. Let's do this. Okey-dokey.

[00:51:00] All right. We are getting into Jeremiah chapter 38. Okay. And as has been usual for the last

[00:51:17] several chapters, I have a couple notes before we begin. Okay. First of all, this chapter is numbered

[00:51:23] as Jeremiah chapter 45 in the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation. Sure. Okay. And also,

[00:51:31] this chapter is part of that narrative that I described yesterday. That is its own little section

[00:51:38] right. And that is chapters 37 through 44. Okay. All right. So here we go getting into it. Are you

[00:51:46] ready? I'm ready as I'm going to be. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now, Chef Ataya, you know, you know,

[00:51:53] Chef Ataya. I don't really though. He's the son of Mattan. Don't know that guy either.

[00:51:57] Okay. So that guy plus Get a Laya, the son of Peshur, plus Jakal, the son of Shalamaya.

[00:52:05] Lots of guys. And push her the son of Melkaya. Okay. So a bunch of guys. All those people.

[00:52:12] They heard the words that Jeremiah had spoken to all the people saying, thus says the Lord,

[00:52:17] he who remains in this city shall die by the sword by famine and by pestilence. You sure

[00:52:22] I said that a lot? Yeah. But he who goes over to the Chaldeans shall live. Remember,

[00:52:27] he was telling them you should probably just give up. He's spied. I totally believe that.

[00:52:31] Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. That's what he is. Yeah. His life shall be as a prize to him. And he

[00:52:37] shall live. Thus says the Lord, this city shall surely be given into the hand of the king of Babylon's

[00:52:43] army, which shall take it. Okay. So I think it's not the the Lord saying this is the king of Babylon

[00:52:50] saying this. Yeah. And if you give up, I won't kill you. Yeah. And Jeremiah is like trying to get the

[00:52:56] people to not die. Yeah. Jeremiah may even be a good guy in all this. I don't know. But because

[00:53:02] he's in so far as he doesn't want his people to die. Right. And assuming that that's why he's doing

[00:53:07] this and not just trying to save his own ass. Right. Who knows? Yeah. But he sure comes across as a

[00:53:11] fucking spy. He does. He does. And I'm not necessarily convinced that he's in the wrong for being

[00:53:19] a spy. But he's certainly not hearing from God. Right. He's just a political tool. That's not

[00:53:24] to say. This is just all politics, all bullshit. Yeah. Okay. So therefore because Jeremiah kept spouting

[00:53:31] that shit, the princes, those four guys that I mentioned, well, these are the good princes or the bad

[00:53:36] princes. The bad princes. Remember. Sorry, there were a lot of princes. Yeah. But the good ones were

[00:53:41] 15 years ago. We're done with them. Yeah. We bounce around time when we remember we're in the narrative.

[00:53:46] Yeah. We're in this the solid narrative section. Okay. So you know, those same princes that were mean

[00:53:53] and bad. Yeah. That were like, boom and jail, toss them in a pit. They're the same ones. Take

[00:53:58] them to that scribe Jonathan's house. Yeah. He's got a dungeon. Okay, those guys. Yeah.

[00:54:04] Okay. Said to the king, please let this man be put to fucking death.

[00:54:10] For thus he weakens the hands of the men of war who remain in this city. He's bad for morale.

[00:54:15] I mean, it's actually not a bad argument. Right. Right. It's so far as I mean, if this guy is

[00:54:23] like just spouting spy shit, you're all gonna die. You're all gonna die. Lie down your arms.

[00:54:27] It's not good from around. Yeah. Yeah. So they're like, he's bad for the men of war who remain in

[00:54:34] the city and the hands of all the people by speaking such words to them. I don't disagree.

[00:54:39] I'm not saying that look whether God exists or not, that's well, it's not really up for debate.

[00:54:45] But I mean, you know, in the realm that we are entertaining that idea, let's just say that's

[00:54:50] up for debate. Sure. But in canon, that's a canon. Yeah. Yeah. But like if you are in the minority

[00:54:57] and you're you're ruining morale in a city, you are not good for that city right in that moment.

[00:55:04] Exactly. In time in that point in history. Yeah. So they are not mistaken. They're not nice guys,

[00:55:09] but they're not wrong. Right. That guy can sometimes be right. We're only hearing Jeremiah and

[00:55:14] Baruch sides. Yeah. You know, I mean, to be fair. Yeah. For this man, these princes are still talking

[00:55:20] about Jeremiah. This man does not seek the welfare of this people, but their harm. They're not

[00:55:27] right about that. I don't think. I mean, I think that's I think that they just disagree about

[00:55:34] the best course of action. Sure. And I think it's wrong to say that he just wants his old

[00:55:39] a fucking die. But also you have to look at it from the spy perspective. And if he's

[00:55:43] conspiring people that are trying to demolish the city as opposed to conspiring with people like

[00:55:49] the Egyptians who occasionally try to help them out. Right. It looks like he's trying to do harm.

[00:55:54] You know, I'm just saying. Okay. So you're saying you're saying that they want us to lay down

[00:55:59] our arms so that they can just kill us all. Well, how are you supposed to know what they're going

[00:56:03] to do? Okay. I see. Like he's saying he knows, but like they're gonna they're fighting us.

[00:56:08] They're they're at war with their attack. So they might be so how are we supposed to trust what

[00:56:12] they're going to do to us? That's fair. Hell in the past, the Israelites have destroyed entire

[00:56:16] heaped them up in piles. It's true. I mean, burn the bodies. Why would they seek to have

[00:56:22] something different done to them? You know, like I would expect to say maybe you're right.

[00:56:26] Then Zedakaya, the king said, look, he's in your hand for the king can do nothing against you.

[00:56:32] So Zedakaya was very cowardly. Got it. Did not stand up to them. He didn't have a lot of power.

[00:56:38] No, clearly. And I have some notes about this whole happening. Sure. Okay. So those guys that I

[00:56:45] told you about they were princes of Judah and they were men connected to the royal family

[00:56:51] in various fashions. Okay. So they were aristocrats. A aristocrat. Somebody loves Disney. It's me.

[00:56:59] They were aristocrats who had their own status and interests to protect as the catastrophe of the

[00:57:06] complete Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem drew me here. Yeah. So they were trying to protect their

[00:57:11] own selves. And I don't exactly blame them. No, I don't either. I don't neither. But it's just so

[00:57:17] complicated. You know, right? All right. So they took Jeremiah and cast him into the dungeon of

[00:57:23] Melchaya, the king's son, which was in the court of the prison. I feel like they should have called

[00:57:29] the dungeon of Melchaya because that sounds really ominous. Right. You know, that's a name of a band,

[00:57:34] right? Dungeon of Melchaya. Melchaya's dungeon. And they let Jeremiah down with ropes. Oh,

[00:57:41] damn. They wanted them to die, but they didn't want to kill them themselves. Right. So they lowered

[00:57:46] them with ropes. Okay. And in the dungeon, there was no water, but myrrh. So Jeremiah sink

[00:57:52] in the myrrh. Damn. That's rough. So okay. I have more notes ready? Yeah. I'm ready. Okay.

[00:57:58] So the dungeon as described is assumed to be a sister. Most houses in Jerusalem had private

[00:58:05] systems for storing the water collected during a rainfall or from a nearby spring. Wait, wasn't

[00:58:11] he just an assistant the last time? And then he got taken out of it and now he got in one. He was

[00:58:15] in one. And then he asked, please, could you not? Right. Could I please get out of here? I'm going to

[00:58:21] die. Right. And so yeah, then he was put in the better prison, but clearly he was still able to

[00:58:29] come and go because he went right back out there and was talking his shit again. And these

[00:58:33] princes were like, excuse you, right? You need to get back into that pit. Okay. And so they threw

[00:58:40] them into a different one. But very carefully with their dainty little paws. Sure. Yeah.

[00:58:46] These cisterns were usually pear-shaped with a small opening at the top, which could be covered

[00:58:51] over if necessary to prevent accidents or contamination of the water. Okay. So he's in this pit

[00:58:57] that has no water in it. But it's just like mud at the bottom. So he's like slowly squalching

[00:59:05] around in just the mud. Right. Right. So not fun. Not fun. And also I don't know if you recall

[00:59:11] the description of the cistern from the previous chapter, but he could not stand. He couldn't lay

[00:59:17] comfortably like it was just not a place that people are supposed to be because it's for fucking water.

[00:59:23] Right. Not people. Right. Don't get in a cistern. Right. Just maybe you should write a sticky note

[00:59:31] in case you forget don't get in cisterns. Yeah. Okay. I mean, everybody needs one of those, right?

[00:59:36] I need a cistern. And I mean, it's sticky note not to get into it. Yes. Okay. So now a bed Malak,

[00:59:44] this cool dude. Okay. He's an Ethiopian, one of the unix who was in the King's house.

[00:59:50] He heard that they had put Jeremiah and the dungeon when the king was sitting at the gate of Benjamin.

[00:59:56] A bed Malak went out of the King's house and he spoke to the king saying, excuse me, sir.

[01:00:03] My Lord, the King. These men have done evil and all that they have done to Jeremiah, the prophet.

[01:00:09] I'm like assuming he's like whispering. He's like a king king. Wait. Didn't the princes come to him

[01:00:15] and say we're doing this stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Yeah. Basically

[01:00:20] the King seems to me like a very soft Trump where he does does whatever the last person he spoke

[01:00:27] suggested. Okay. So anyway, this guy he's like, hey, they did bad to him whom they have cast into the

[01:00:34] dungeon and he is likely to die from hunger in the place where he is for there's no more bread in

[01:00:39] the city. So they can't even throw bread down to him. He's like, dude, dude, this prophet is going

[01:00:48] to die. Is that really what you want? Right. So then the King commanded a bed Malak, the Ethiopian saying,

[01:00:55] take here 30 men with you and lift Jeremiah the prophet out of the dungeon before he dies.

[01:01:01] I have some notes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So first of all, a bed Malak, the Ethiopian guy, it just means

[01:01:11] servant of the king. So even if it was the man's proper name, it shows that he had no identity

[01:01:17] of his own. Okay. So that was either his title or his name is his title. Sure. Like basically, he's

[01:01:23] no man. Okay. You know, and being a foreigner and a unique a bed Malak was excluded from the temple

[01:01:30] and most Jewish rituals. Right. So he was like an outsider kind of guy and yet somehow he had more

[01:01:37] compassion and mercy than most of the ruling class who participated in all these rituals all the time.

[01:01:44] Okay. Which that's very interesting. Right. Okay. Now because the Septuagint and one Hebrew manuscript

[01:01:51] read three instead of 30, some scholars choose the lesser figure like remember the King said,

[01:01:57] take 30 guys with you and go get them out. Yeah. Because it doesn't take 30 guys to pull them out.

[01:02:02] Right. Right. So in some translations, it says 30 and in some three and a lot because it

[01:02:09] said three and a lot of the important ones, right. People are like a lot of scholars are like,

[01:02:15] that's probably more likely. But while 30 men were not needed to do the work of pulling,

[01:02:22] there would likely have been several standing guard so that none of the influential people who

[01:02:27] did want Jeremiah dead could prevent his rescue. Okay. So unlike who cares honestly, it could go either

[01:02:34] way. We don't know. We don't know what the king wanted. He was so fucking wishy watching.

[01:02:38] Well, in this whole this whole thing with a bed Malek is a bed Malek. Bed Malek. It strikes me as

[01:02:45] odd that he cares so much about some why would you care about Jeremiah? Because he believed in the

[01:02:52] prophet. Okay. And because the prophet has been saying this shit for years at this point and

[01:02:58] everything that he has said has come to pass. All right. That that they have lived to see. You know what I

[01:03:03] mean? Everything that has happened within their time according to this. And correct me if I'm wrong,

[01:03:08] but Zedekaya was he placed in position by the king of Babylon or was it I think he was placed in

[01:03:13] position by the king of Babylon. Yes. So people surrounding him were probably more closely aligned with

[01:03:18] Babylon than they were with Egypt. If I had to guess. Yes. So that would make sense that they would

[01:03:26] be helping the spy. Yeah. It's all interesting. Yeah. Like who even fucking knows who was doing

[01:03:34] right? I was trying to keep track of all the political you know, machinations. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

[01:03:39] Who knows? So a bed Malek took the man with him and went into the house of the king under the

[01:03:45] treasury and took from their old clothes and old rags and led them down by ropes into the dungeon

[01:03:52] Jeremiah. Then a bed Malek, the Ethiopian said to Jeremiah, please put these old clothes and

[01:03:58] rags under your armpits under the ropes. And Jeremiah did so. So they pulled Jeremiah up with

[01:04:04] ropes and lifted him out of the dungeon. And Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison. You know

[01:04:10] again. So he was still in jail. But not in the gun. He was back in the good jail. Well how are

[01:04:15] do they going to how are they going to guarantee like they're going to arrest you him but leave him

[01:04:18] in the jail? Who does stop the princess from putting them right back in the freaking cistern?

[01:04:22] I don't know. I don't know. I wish that Jeremiah at this point would just like fucking stay

[01:04:29] just stay in your room. Right. Guy you've you've done your piece. Stay in your room. But he

[01:04:35] just he keeps going. I don't know. I guess. But remember the beginning like he was like at the

[01:04:39] beginning of this book, he was like it being mean to me they're making fun of me and calling me names

[01:04:45] right. And God was like, you ain't see nothing yet. You're not even going to know. Yeah.

[01:04:52] So I just think it's funny like I just I've been holding that in the back of my mind

[01:04:58] to pull out when it shit got bad enough to be able to say, oh dang okay. Right. Okay.

[01:05:05] Now I do also want to point out they made a big point of writing in that Millek the Ethiopian

[01:05:14] I'm sorry, a bed Millek the Ethiopian made sure to put cloths under Jeremiah's arms when they

[01:05:23] pulled them up. Yeah. Because he was probably so emaciated. Right. And you know close to starvation

[01:05:29] and stuff. Yeah. It's such an like unimportant detail. It's really odd that they were like

[01:05:36] and they brought him up very carefully. Right. Like why did that make it in? You know, like details

[01:05:43] that matter are not put in this fucking book but they brought them out maybe to show the reverence

[01:05:49] that they had for him or the email I'm saying like they treated him with respect with regard.

[01:05:56] Okay. You know, I like that. Thank you. That's a good answer to my question. It just you know

[01:05:59] it's my only possible. I just I just find it all the details that they leave out versus the details

[01:06:05] that they choose to add. Yeah. That I mean, it's nice and all I'm glad that they were nice to him

[01:06:11] but that wasn't the most important detail that they could have put in. Right. No. And in the fact

[01:06:16] that they leave him in the fucking jail is really odd to me. Well, the court jail though we talked

[01:06:22] about this last time it's a nice place and he has a little bit of freedom to come and go in the city.

[01:06:26] And so far as he doesn't get thrown into a sister and by princes. Yes. Which he's already

[01:06:31] happened to him now twice. Right. Well, once was a guard be fair.

[01:06:38] The prince is only did it the second time. I'm just saying. No, you're totally right. I agree with

[01:06:43] you. Okay, but the chapter goes on. Yeah. Then Zedakaya the king sent and had Jeremiah the prophet

[01:06:52] brought to him at the third entrance of the house of the Lord. Not the first not the second.

[01:06:57] Not the fourth. The third one. Right. And the fifth was way too many. I guess. Yeah.

[01:07:03] And the king said to Jeremiah, I will ask you something. I had nothing from me. What do you think

[01:07:08] he's going to ask? Is there any way for him not to die? That would be my guess. Right. Yeah.

[01:07:15] Would you like to take bets or should we both just say yeah that's probably what he's asking?

[01:07:20] That's probably what he's asking. Okay, let's find out. All right. Jeremiah said to Zedakaya,

[01:07:24] if I declare it to you, will you not surely put me to death? And if I give you advice,

[01:07:29] she'll not listen to me. I mean fair enough. I mean, he's like who fucking cares

[01:07:33] with how I answer you? Although the last time you gave him advice and he'd just put him in the

[01:07:36] nice prison. True. So I mean, I don't know. But I mean, don't you think that he's like dude,

[01:07:42] I'm tired of playing this fucking game with you. Right. Yeah. You've stuck me in jail twice

[01:07:46] through various other people. My story hasn't changed. I've been beat. I've been, you know,

[01:07:53] put in the stockade, the torture device like my answer is. I'm giving credit. He has stuck to a story.

[01:07:58] Yeah. Yeah. So he's like what the fuck do you care what I say? Again, according to Jeremiah.

[01:08:03] Yeah. According to Jeremiah, Jeremiah was very brave and virtuous. I mean, according to wife,

[01:08:10] wife was the best wife that ever was. That's right. You are though. Yeah. Oh thanks. I love you too.

[01:08:17] So Zeta Kaya the King swore secretly to Jeremiah saying as the Lord lives who made our very

[01:08:25] souls. I will not put you to death nor will I give you into the hand of these men who seek your life.

[01:08:31] But let me ask you this. Yeah, he said as the Lord lives. Oh, sir, do you believe in God now?

[01:08:39] Am I to take your word? Right. Yeah. Like you've already been wishy washy.

[01:08:44] Left and right. You let people put me in jail twice. But he obviously does at some level care

[01:08:50] about this guy's opinion. He keeps asking him. Right. I'm just saying like can you honestly

[01:08:55] like trust his word? Oh, by God, huh? Do you mean the God that I keep telling you or the God

[01:09:01] that you want to believe or the God that your political guys? Like which God? Right. You know,

[01:09:07] I think it's generally no matter who you're talking to is the God they want to believe in.

[01:09:11] Well, sure. I'm saying whether it's the King or not, you know, so I'm just saying like if I was

[01:09:15] Jeremiah, it would be like, you know, I appreciate that you sound sincere in this moment. Yeah.

[01:09:19] I even appreciate that you probably are sincere in this moment. Sure. But five minutes from now,

[01:09:25] you might change your mind. Your promise honestly means nothing, especially when my story hasn't

[01:09:32] changed. You have multiple times over. Right. It's all well and good for you to promise. I'll tell

[01:09:38] you what I'm gonna tell you. And it's the same shit I've been telling you. Sure. And I don't care

[01:09:43] if he's wearing God or not. Right. I mean, that, I don't know. Yeah. Not that I want to take Jeremiah

[01:09:48] side, but you get what I say. Yeah. So then Jeremiah said does that a cahia? Thus says the Lord,

[01:09:55] I guess he decided to trust him in his word. It doesn't matter. Like sure. Okay. Okay. Thus says the

[01:10:02] Lord, the God of hosts the God of Israel. If you surely surrender to the king of Babylon's

[01:10:08] princes, then your soul shall live. I feel like he's like, do you understand the words that are

[01:10:15] coming out of my mouth? This city shall not be burned with fire and you and your house shall live.

[01:10:22] But motherfucker, if you do not surrender to the king of Babylon's princes,

[01:10:28] then this city shall be given into the hands of the Chaldeans. They shall burn it with fire

[01:10:34] and you shall not escape from their hand. Like, hello, can you hear me? Yeah. And Zedekaya the

[01:10:42] king said to Jeremiah, I am afraid of the Jews who have defected to the Chaldeans,

[01:10:48] unless they deliver me into their hand and they abuse me. Oh, it would be scared of them too.

[01:10:54] I mean, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like you have to think about it like this whole time,

[01:10:58] people have probably been sneaking away. Right? And either like sneaking as refugees into further

[01:11:04] cities or being like, fuck this. I'm going to the Chaldeans. They seem all right. Right.

[01:11:10] Like they got their shit together. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, I don't blame you. Right.

[01:11:16] But Jeremiah said, no, they shall not deliver you. Please, please obey the voice of the Lord,

[01:11:21] which I speak to you. So it shall be well with you and your soul shall live. Oh my God,

[01:11:26] he's begging him. That's crazy. But if you refuse to surrender, this is the word that the Lord has shown me.

[01:11:33] Okay. Okay. Colin, are you ready? Ready. Oh, this I feel like this is going to be bad. You

[01:11:38] think it's going to be worse than this been? I think I think it's going to be bad. I just have

[01:11:42] this impression because he's like, listen, listen. All right. I'm about to tell you some shit. Are

[01:11:47] you ready? Because you brought me in here. You whispered at me. Okay, I'm going to lay it down for

[01:11:53] you. Okay. Now be hold all the women who are left in the King of Judah's house shall be surrendered

[01:12:01] to the King of Babylon's princess and those women shall say, your close friends have set upon you

[01:12:07] and prevailed against you. Your feet have sunk in the mire and they have turned away again.

[01:12:14] So they shall surrender all your wives and children to the childans. You shall not escape from

[01:12:19] their hand, but shall be taken by the hand of the King of Babylon and you shall cause this city

[01:12:25] to be burned with fucking fire. Do you hear me now, sir? Right. King man. Yeah. Then Zedekaya said to

[01:12:34] Jeremiah, let no one know of these words and you shall not die. He's like, this message sucks.

[01:12:41] I need a different fortune cookie. I'm throwing this one in the fire like that other fucking

[01:12:46] scroll. I won't kill you. I'm not going to kill you, but listen. Don't tell anybody else this.

[01:12:50] Stop walking around the city and saying this shit. Right. But if the princess here that I have

[01:12:55] talked with you, this is still Zedekaya talking to the fucking King. It just keeps striking me like,

[01:13:01] hi, I'm just this dude talking to a king. No bigs right? But if the princess here that I have talked

[01:13:07] with you and they come to you and say to you, declare to us now what you have said to the king and

[01:13:11] also what the King said to you. Do not hide it from us and we will not put you to death. Then

[01:13:17] you shall say to them, I presented my request before the King that he would not make me return to

[01:13:23] Jonathan's house to die there. Okay? We good. We good. Then all the princes came to Jeremiah and

[01:13:30] asked him and he told them according to all these words that the King had commanded. So they

[01:13:36] stopped speaking with him for the conversation had not been heard. Okay? So Zedekaya like don't

[01:13:42] tell them that I asked for your advice again, they're like, so it's me. Right. And Jeremiah is like,

[01:13:49] I don't okay find whatever. Like that's not my beef man. Right. Like I'm not out here trying to

[01:13:55] get you in trouble with these prince guys. I'm just doing my thing. Sure. So okay, okay, I won't

[01:14:01] tell them. Now Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison until the day that Jerusalem was taken

[01:14:09] and he was there when Jerusalem was taken the end. Okay. Damn, that was a that was a strong finish to

[01:14:16] that chapter. So apparently Zedekaya didn't I mean we already knew but Zedekaya did not listen

[01:14:21] to Jeremiah right? Right. And then the place got taken yeah they were going to burn the place

[01:14:26] to the ground though does I think doesn't Jeremiah live through this though right? We're still in

[01:14:31] the middle of the story like is yeah remember we're in the middle of a section but it strikes me though

[01:14:36] if they were going to burn the whole place to the fucking ground if they didn't surrender that

[01:14:42] Jeremiah must have had special standing with the Chaudyans slash Babylonians right for them to

[01:14:47] escort him off the premises. I mean okay, right now what we're doing is trying to guess what is

[01:14:54] happening in the next chapter. Sure. Like we're in the to be continued what do you think happens right?

[01:14:59] Yeah, and I'm like okay maybe they burn the whole city but all the oh well we know didn't they

[01:15:04] they took Zedekaya with them. Remember? Yeah. So they probably would have taken Zedekaya and all of his

[01:15:12] court including the jail guys and since Jeremiah was a prophet or you know spy yeah,

[01:15:20] you know they I'm betting that they took the king and some of his court including Jeremiah

[01:15:27] and whoever else was you know an uppity schmuckbuck name. Yeah, all right. What we'll see?

[01:15:34] I know I'm kind of excited though yeah the story's getting good. So that was Jeremiah chapter 38.

[01:15:40] It sure is buck was which means that we'll be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 39 and I'm so

[01:15:46] excited about it. All right, we'll see you guys then. Bye.

[01:15:56] Husband wife. Do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today?

[01:16:02] Well, yesterday we read Jeremiah chapter 38. We did. And in that chapter I believe Jeremiah was

[01:16:10] trying to tell everyone how you they're all gonna die and shit so like there were some

[01:16:16] guards that like through a system. They threw them in a sister and like in the muck and the

[01:16:20] mire and the pit and whatever and there wasn't enough bread for them and stuff so like there was

[01:16:26] this other person that was working for the kings at Akaya. Yeah. And he was like dude,

[01:16:31] he's gonna die with no bread. Yeah it was an Ethiopian unit. Yeah yeah that guy. And so they were like

[01:16:38] okay go get 30 men or three men one of the two and go save them. Yeah. And so they went and saved

[01:16:43] them and then they brought him to the king and the king was like for the second time because he'd

[01:16:47] already talked to him in the past. This was more than a second time. Whatever he's talking to him

[01:16:51] again and he's like hey, what's what's what's the what's the real deal? Can you tell me the real deal

[01:16:55] and then God's gonna save us right you guys see where Miracle in your pocket Jeremiah is like dude

[01:17:01] I told you I told you this mate like are you just gonna kill me you gonna what it what's gonna happen

[01:17:07] like why would I why should I tell you yeah and he's like he promised to get to he's

[01:17:13] do you swear you won't do anything bad and he's like I swear to God you know I'm not gonna do

[01:17:17] anything bad and then Jeremiah is like okay and he told him and the same thing nothing new right

[01:17:24] yeah same thing he's gonna die whatever if he doesn't do doesn't give up to Babylon or whatever

[01:17:29] and then many you know and then the Zedekai was like don't tell anybody that what you told me

[01:17:36] yeah that tracks okay and then he was in the good prison instead of the sister right and that's

[01:17:42] pretty much I think what happened last time he was not in the scribes dungeon no no he was in

[01:17:47] the better prison I'm just so excited that a scribe had a dungeon I am actually really excited

[01:17:53] that he was able to keep his mouth shut right now to not get thrown into the sister again again for

[01:17:59] the third time right been in it twice because I think that was a real feat for him actually yeah

[01:18:04] honestly he seems to not be able to do that generally well I mean he is playing the part of a double

[01:18:12] spy so I mean that's what I think yeah I totally think right yeah so that was Jeremiah chapter 38

[01:18:19] it sure as fuck was which means that today we're getting into Jeremiah chapter 39

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[01:19:47] okay so we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 39 okay and as per usual with this fucking book

[01:19:54] I have some notes before we start let me say something real quick before we start because I think

[01:19:58] everybody's gonna be getting this episode in the morning on Friday when it should be coming out

[01:20:05] Thursday well yeah so I mean what we fell behind this week because of sickness and whatever right

[01:20:10] so um we're gonna try to do another episode later today even so there there may be two episodes coming

[01:20:17] out today just like there was yesterday so if you are planning on keeping up this week or whatever

[01:20:24] be prepared that there might be yet another episode coming out today later thank you sorry thank you

[01:20:29] yeah yeah so I just wanted to preface that before we started the the full episode here

[01:20:35] that we are working very hard to try to catch up to where we should be right right yeah and

[01:20:42] that being said you said you had some notes I did thank you sir yeah yeah so Jeremiah chapter 39

[01:20:48] is numbered as my favorite part of every episode I know um Jeremiah chapter 46 in the septo

[01:20:56] agent which is the Greek translation right right and also this chapter is part of that narrative

[01:21:03] that we've been discussing that consists of chapters 37 through 44 okay you know this one little

[01:21:09] story bit that's actually kind of interesting right now I'm enjoying the way this is being told

[01:21:14] and the way the information that they're parsing out right so it's it's been a little bit more tolerable

[01:21:21] than some of the other stuff in Jeremiah thus far right it's definitely like way better than Isaiah

[01:21:28] yeah well that's not hard to do no the bars on the fucking I mean the repetitiveness is still

[01:21:33] just as bad in Jeremiah but this section we've got some good stories okay this happening for the

[01:21:39] Bible for a prophet story whatever yeah it's doing it's it's better caveat caveat caveat cave yeah sure

[01:21:45] caveat all day okay here we go yeah in the ninth year of Zedekaya king of Judah uh-huh in the tenth

[01:21:55] month in the tenth month Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and all his army came against Jerusalem and

[01:22:02] besieged it that's right we left off where Jeremiah was in jail until they got besieged yeah and

[01:22:10] taken over so this that's happening right now yeah okay all right in the eleventh year of Zedekaya

[01:22:16] yeah so like two months later in the fourth month sure oh in the four oh so six months later yeah

[01:22:20] okay in the ninth day of the month the city was penetrated yeah it was then all the princes

[01:22:30] of the king of Babylon came in and sat in the middle gate okay okay so this is who these guys were

[01:22:38] Nergal Sharazare Sam Garnibo Sarsashim Rabsaurus Nergalar Sarazar Rab Mag you know with the rest

[01:22:50] of the princes of the king I'm sitting here watching you try to pronounce these and it's it's

[01:22:55] entertaining just to see you like struggle with the names because you're like you know you're kind

[01:23:01] of an asshole I am I am trying you are trying really hard really hard and I should give you

[01:23:06] you're doing you're doing very well so anyway all those guys that I struggled over yes along with

[01:23:12] all the rest of the princes of the king of Babylon sure they went and they sat in the god damn

[01:23:17] middle of the gate they were like boom here's the middle of the gator they said at the middle gate

[01:23:22] oh they sat in the middle gate in the middle gate and probably in the middle of the middle gate

[01:23:28] maybe they sat on the side of it but it was definitely the middle gate I think that they sat

[01:23:33] in the middle of it and I'll tell you why in a minute okay so it was when Zedakaya the king of

[01:23:38] Judah and all the men of war saw them that they fucking fled and went out of the city by night

[01:23:44] they were like bitch bye I gotta go man are these guys that terrifying they just fucking knocked down

[01:23:50] the walls of your city yeah they're probably gonna kill you according to Jeremiah you're the king

[01:23:56] and you've been like you're like new up bye fair enough yeah so they went out of the city by night

[01:24:05] by way of the king's garden by the gate between the two walls and he went out by way of the plane

[01:24:12] you know the plane yeah but the childy and army pursued them and overtook Zedakaya in the planes

[01:24:18] of Jericho and when they had captured him they brought him up to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon

[01:24:24] to Riblah in the hand of Hamath or I'm sorry in the land of Hamath where he pronounced judgment on him

[01:24:31] oh yeah okay so I have a few notes I bet he has a choice words to say since he was supposed to be his

[01:24:38] little you know puppet yeah well I have some notes okay yeah so when I said in the ninth year

[01:24:46] of Zedakaya king of Judah in the tenth month yeah that would have been about January 587 BCE okay

[01:24:55] yeah so that's the time period that we're discussing okay and then further on when it says

[01:24:59] the eleventh year of Zedakaya in the fourth month that would have been about July of 586 BCE okay

[01:25:07] okay sure okay so the walls of Jerusalem were breached after 18 months of siege and the city fell

[01:25:14] afterward completely devoid of food so that cannibalism became prevalent oh oh and that was a common

[01:25:21] practice they would just sit and wait them out which is kind of interesting because when you think

[01:25:27] about what's happening in Gaza right now yeah um this is this is a way that this this was common

[01:25:37] this is how they beat them and this is what is happening yeah and you know no it's really it's

[01:25:43] really disgusting to me what is happening in Gaza because hey look there's no winners in war right

[01:25:53] and I don't I don't agree with you know fighting for whatever it does I don't agree with war you know

[01:25:59] like but there's there's there's there's better ways to do it than what that is being done and I mean

[01:26:05] they literally literally are starving these people on purpose I mean can I like have two ideas in my

[01:26:12] head at the same time which is that what Hamas did in the first place was obviously bad and wrong

[01:26:18] right but can I also say that but genocide is way bad and way wrong yeah no I think that's the

[01:26:26] problem is that you know we're not allowed to hold or like the main narrative on the media is that

[01:26:31] we're not allowed to hold these two narratives at once right no it's only they have a right to

[01:26:36] exist and they have a right to protect themselves and I'm like at the cost of genocide I don't think

[01:26:42] that is true sir right right no nobody has the right to exist at the price of genocide I'm sorry no

[01:26:51] measured response I think is the correct words here that need to be implemented and utilized

[01:26:56] like if children were to react like this we would teach them to do better right you know we would

[01:27:04] take away their toys yeah like this is not okay so anyway I'm sorry we're gonna have a little

[01:27:09] tangent there well when I read that you know the city fell afterward because they just they sat

[01:27:14] them out they ringed to the city they blocked anything from coming in or out yeah and they starved

[01:27:20] them out right and then they the people inside fell to cannellan symbolism because there was literally

[01:27:26] nothing else sure and that is it was a common tactic in those times you know like that's not an

[01:27:31] uncommon tactic back then and it seems that it is still a common tactic today because that is what's

[01:27:37] happening it's it's happening today I wouldn't say that it's uh looked upon as a good tactic

[01:27:44] and one should be employees not definitely not something that we think should be implemented it's not

[01:27:49] humanitarian act I will tell you that not anyway what's what and in the year of our mother

[01:27:54] fucking lord 2024 not my lord we should be better than this we definitely should as a whole

[01:28:01] so anyway okay when I told you that they sat in the middle gate all those princes yeah

[01:28:06] in a modern day setting so if we were to like do a you know analogy of you know here's what it

[01:28:13] would mean if that happened today yeah okay sitting in the gates of the city was similar to an enemy

[01:28:20] conquering Washington DC and then sitting in the obel office and all I could think was but that

[01:28:26] happened on January 6 no it didn't okay but similar you know what I mean okay yeah they went

[01:28:34] on the the floor yes that's not anywhere near the global office no I know I'm just saying like

[01:28:41] similar you know okay like that was the analogy that was used by the people who wrote these notes

[01:28:48] that I'm drawing from sure but all I could think was the right January 6 because they went and they sat

[01:28:55] and you know right I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't the oval no I know I know what was in

[01:28:59] the fucking oval office it wasn't the White House I know that okay I know that it was still very

[01:29:05] sure yes the symbolism is very equivalent once again you know we are seeing a similar act on

[01:29:12] today by shitting people shitty actors yeah okay so one more note here on the capture of King Zadakaya

[01:29:22] wait yeah King Zadakaya yeah so it was at the city of Ribla is what I said yeah where he brought

[01:29:30] him for judgment yeah Ribla was a city on the O'Rontus River in Syria okay okay it was strategically

[01:29:38] located at a crossing of the major roads between Egypt and Mesopotamia okay okay and he was likely

[01:29:47] like one hour away from safety when he got captured oh wow yeah yeah like he almost made it right

[01:29:54] about 22 years before this so around 609 BCE Faro Niko had brought Jehovah has there

[01:30:03] putting him in chains and that was in second Kings prior to taking him captive to Egypt

[01:30:10] so yeah that's interesting right now Nebuchadnezzar made it his base camp for his campaigns against

[01:30:17] the Palestinian states and his seat of judgment on prisoners brought to him there

[01:30:22] hmm okay that's just a little bit of history side notes yeah yeah which you know I just love

[01:30:28] that shit yeah okay so anyway he's been brought for judgment he's captured and brought for judgment

[01:30:33] okay then the King of Babylon killed the sons of Zadakaya before his eyes in Ribla

[01:30:39] which yikes right the King of Babylon also killed all the nobles of Judah more over

[01:30:47] he put out Zadakaya's eyes so first he made him watch his sons be killed and then he put his eyes

[01:30:53] out right and apparently it was common for the Babylonians to um blind their enemies by sticking

[01:31:00] their thumbs in their eyeballs oh god yeah and that was just the thing they did that's horrible like

[01:31:06] maybe we take prisoners but we don't take them friendly right yeah so um then he bound him with

[01:31:13] bronze fetters to carry him off to Babylon okay so he basically you know put him chains right

[01:31:20] and the Chaldeans burned the King's house and the houses of the people with fire because that's

[01:31:26] what burn that's how fire burns yes they didn't know if I say what definitely wasn't ice

[01:31:35] or silly putty or coffee no yeah they burned it with fire right yeah and that they burned the

[01:31:43] houses of the people with fire and broke down the walls of Jerusalem so whatever was still standing

[01:31:48] they knocked that shit down to you know then Nebozeradan the captain of the guard okay carried away

[01:31:56] captive to Babylon the remnant of the people who remained in the city and those who defected

[01:32:02] to him with the rest of the people who remained okay so there were some Judeans who were like

[01:32:08] just kidding I'm on your team sure sure which is fair yeah why didn't even that's what Jeremiah has

[01:32:14] been promoting too yes yeah that was probably at least some people that listened to him and were like

[01:32:19] yeah you're here we're definitely yeah but we'll go with you nose goes right not it

[01:32:27] then Nebozeradan the captain of the guard left in the land of Judah the poor people who had nothing

[01:32:34] and gave them vineyards and fields at the same time so he didn't leave them completely bereft

[01:32:41] right but I feel like that was more to work the fields for them oh yeah and it wasn't like

[01:32:45] shipping them the fields no it was and this is your job now right you can eat though you get to live

[01:32:52] yeah and work this land sure so I mean yeah was it cruel it was less than murder yeah it was probably

[01:33:00] no worse than what they were dealing with before right exactly exactly now we get into the next

[01:33:06] little section okay now Neboke Nazar king of Babylon gave charge concerning Jeremiah to Nebozeradan

[01:33:15] the captain of the guard so the king told his guard take him and look after him and do him no harm

[01:33:22] but due to him just as he says to you okay so he's like take care of this guy you know because

[01:33:28] he's my fucking double slide right yeah so he's like thank you for not this is totally

[01:33:34] vindicating everything right yeah the fact that he's like okay anyway I want to hear this out I'm

[01:33:40] really I'm really glad you didn't kill him while you were out there killing everybody right

[01:33:44] right mr guard of mine and also yeah take good care of him right if you would I want to hear

[01:33:50] out you know I want to hear the whole thing but like yeah that's uh that's interesting yeah he

[01:33:55] gets a little bit of a choice lot here so Nebozeradan the captain of the guard sent Nebooshaban

[01:34:04] rab Cyrus Nairgall Sharazar rab mag and all the king of Babylon's chief officers then they sent

[01:34:11] someone to take Jeremiah from the court of the prison and committed him to Getalaya the son of

[01:34:18] he came the son of Shafan that he should take him home and those were people remember that

[01:34:24] um had been friends of his yeah so okay he was like all y'all you know higher upy people take care

[01:34:32] of him sure like you get to live you get to live you get to live and you take care of Jeremiah right

[01:34:37] right okay so he dwelt among the people okay so these people um the people that he stayed that

[01:34:46] Jeremiah was assigned to yeah those were people of great affluence and they had high positions

[01:34:54] which leads me to believe that they were probably part of Zed or not Zedekaya um

[01:35:02] Babylon Nebozenezer they were probably part of that whole Babylonian

[01:35:07] um uh intrigue you know what I mean like that they were probably part of that

[01:35:13] these were definitely his friends and not people from okay yes because uh he come he had helped him before

[01:35:20] all right okay he had stood up for him before okay okay um I don't remember what chapter

[01:35:24] where that was so there was a cohort of them that were like probably conspiring with Babylon

[01:35:29] yes that's this transition and they're getting treated well because yes they did yes at least

[01:35:35] that's how i'm interpreting and that's what i was trying to convey and I couldn't make the words

[01:35:39] come out right so thank you for understanding what i was trying to convey yes so that is what happened

[01:35:44] okay all right so let me go back to my little notes over here and um there was some question like

[01:35:53] how was Jeremiah known to the Babylonian authorities so I I can answer this one I think it wasn't made

[01:35:59] clear in the bible so no but I I was able to uh extrapolate that information from the information

[01:36:06] that was given yeah at least before I was even told um why that might be a thing I guess at it

[01:36:13] yes and now it seems to uh to be hitting home pretty solidly so do you want to know what

[01:36:18] apologists i do i do i do want to know what the counter offer is here they're saying it was very

[01:36:24] likely through the Judean deserters but they they were like oh I am a prisoner of yours now oh

[01:36:33] there goes Jeremiah he's he's a prophet he was profiting on your team oh shit right oh sorry

[01:36:39] did I yeah i cough there i think yeah yeah i'm like no they were they were not excited about

[01:36:44] no so fuck off with that bullshit right yeah miss me with that shit as the kids say yeah

[01:36:51] the fucker was conspiring with Babylon right i was like are you kidding me right now yeah

[01:36:55] yeah i look i don't want to judge him for doing that maybe you thought that was what was best for

[01:36:59] batten for uh um israel you know yeah i mean maybe Babylon was like I'm not trying to judge him

[01:37:04] for that act i'm just saying that don't tell me he wasn't doing this because that's how the whole

[01:37:09] fucking story sounds yeah it's quite obvious right even though this is being told from Jeremiah as we

[01:37:17] said in just the last chapter the fact that it is being told by Jeremiah makes it even more likely

[01:37:23] that this was the case because if i'm getting that from what he's telling me right imagine if somebody

[01:37:29] else wrote it yeah yeah and there's literally people in israel before they got captured throwing him

[01:37:35] in jail for thinking he's conspiring with the fucking Babylonian but that Babylonians yeah them yeah

[01:37:42] yeah so totally yes i love these chapters now because no this is great they're making us feel

[01:37:48] sure yeah no honestly i mean okay i gotta give credit where credit is due you were the one

[01:37:54] that put this together it just made perfect sense once you said it yeah and i was like oh yeah

[01:37:59] obviously right i mean it's fun to just sit here and listen to the story because i have no preconceived

[01:38:05] notion as to what is going to happen or what isn't going to happen or what have you right and so

[01:38:10] i'm just listening to you tell it to me and i'm like that sounds like that could probably happen

[01:38:14] like i love being able to comment on how these things i how i see them right you know yeah i'm not

[01:38:21] always right i'm probably never right well i'm only half right because there's always somebody

[01:38:26] else with a different idea right but the fact that i'm not always completely wrong makes me very happy

[01:38:34] yeah no it's the same kind of validation that i get when we think of a question and then we go

[01:38:42] and look like i go and research it later and it's like a question that everybody's asking and i'm

[01:38:47] like oh okay that makes me feel good like yeah we're not i don't pay any attention yeah

[01:38:54] yeah i'm learning something yeah exactly even if it's not with a apologist want me to learn

[01:38:59] exactly yeah all right so we got one little section left okay yeah mean while

[01:39:05] man get the ranch the word of the lord had come to Jeremiah i bet it did

[01:39:11] mm-hmm better did while he was shut up in the court of the prison saying so here's god talking to

[01:39:16] Jeremiah according to this is before he got rescued by the Babylonians um no this is while he's

[01:39:22] being taken care of by the guys oh so you know um the king of Babylon said oh yeah guard take care

[01:39:30] of him and then the guard was like yeah cool cool go stay with your friends right but it says

[01:39:35] while he shut up in the court of the prison um oh you're right this is where he was my apologies

[01:39:40] you're you're right sorry so um according to baruch according to Jeremiah according to god

[01:39:47] because you know baruch wrote this right yeah whatever maybe go and speak to a bed malac the Ethiopian

[01:39:55] that's the guy that helped pull him out of the sister wait a second wait a second a bed malac got saved

[01:40:01] yeah all right this is this is this this is all coming together yeah like this is all coming

[01:40:10] together exactly like i thought it might mm-hmm because it like what the fuck did this guy get

[01:40:15] a mention for right if he didn't have something to do with the whole conspiracy after all right and I

[01:40:20] was like at the time when they were when they mentioned at first i was like he's totally part of

[01:40:24] like uh the the team babbled on the wall yeah right yeah i'm like okay this is weird because like

[01:40:30] why is this guy the servant of the king he's a nobody right right yeah okay anyway go ahead go

[01:40:35] ahead sorry i i i'm enjoying this immensely right now i know my smile is so big it's making my

[01:40:41] my cheek muscles hurt go and speak to a bed malac the Ethiopian saying thus says the lord of hosts

[01:40:50] the god of israel mm-hmm behold i will bring my words upon the city for adversity and not for good

[01:40:57] and they shall be performed in that day before you but i will deliver you in that day

[01:41:04] of course he will random person says the lord yeah and you shall not be given into the hand of

[01:41:10] the men whom you are afraid of whom you are afraid for i will surely deliver you and you shall not

[01:41:17] fall by the sword but your life shall be as a prize to you because you have put your trust in me

[01:41:23] says the lord wow the end that's so beautiful and amazing and so easily prophesized when you are

[01:41:30] friends with the fucking Babylonians such bullshit i know like we're supposed to take this whole book

[01:41:40] as a prophecy and it's nothing but bs and when i propaganda it's fucking politics this is crap

[01:41:48] and when i'm reading the apologist they're like oh because he trusted in the lord and put his faith

[01:41:55] and what a brave man and they're like you know just in love with a bed malac his ten one out

[01:42:02] that's all that happened here germany's team one out you can't be that foolish

[01:42:07] you know what i mean like so they can they can do you think that they really believe that

[01:42:13] the apologist yeah 100% really they have to in order to keep their their entire structure of

[01:42:20] their god real and relevant they have to believe this shit they have to believe it the way

[01:42:27] that it makes sense as to where this is the word of god like they're reading this from the perspective

[01:42:33] like look we're reading it from the perspective of this is a story that we're reading them there's

[01:42:36] words on a page right they're reading it from the perspective of our god though this god that

[01:42:43] we love and and worship and respect and love and and he takes care of us and we you know whatever

[01:42:50] all the things but he they they have to do it from that perspective because otherwise their entire

[01:42:57] world falls apart and you they just can't allow for that to happen that's why there is that's

[01:43:05] why there are apologists apologists are the ones that are like this has to work so how how do we

[01:43:12] construct this the other way to make this work to where god is real where still they're enthusiastically

[01:43:20] trying really hard to with their own brains into pretzels yes i just it's the same conversation i have

[01:43:29] with with um theists all the time they they work from the so they work from the end product backwards

[01:43:39] to make it happen the way they wanted it to happen right instead of just going through it for the

[01:43:44] first time ever and looking at it and being like oh well obviously two plus two is four

[01:43:49] so and you have to i mean just to be fair when you grow up indoctrinated with these beliefs and they are

[01:43:55] something that is not just um a fairy tale but something that you literally viscerally feel and

[01:44:05] believe wholeheartedly because your entire community your entire world believes and feels the same

[01:44:12] thing according to them and i'm not saying everybody feels the same way even in the religious

[01:44:16] communities right but from that person's perspective this whole world believes and feels these

[01:44:23] same things so why wouldn't you believe that it's true why wouldn't you believe that you have to

[01:44:28] find a way to make it work if you truly believe that god is real you have to find a way to believe

[01:44:35] this book and these words and make them fit the narrative that's going to create your god as a real

[01:44:41] god that exists and as you know i just have created everything and did all the thing i have such a hard

[01:44:48] time with this because in the apologist notes that i was reading when they were talking about

[01:44:55] the city being starved out and the mother's resorting to cannibalism and eating their own children

[01:45:02] yeah right yeah those random people versus this random guy you know what i mean and i'm just like how do

[01:45:10] you make that work you you don't you you you can but you have to be looking at it from the

[01:45:18] perspective of your you believe in god right you believe in god so you have to believe that there

[01:45:24] is a reason why he chose that why he's single this person out for mention even though he's just

[01:45:30] a servant of a guy you know he's an Ethiopian servant of a king that wasn't really that hell

[01:45:35] hell been on helping god or anything like that right why is this person being singled out right

[01:45:40] you have to believe that god has a purpose or you have to create something that's going to allow

[01:45:45] that person to have some higher purpose and just fuck all those babies and children yeah just

[01:45:51] fuck them well yeah that's that's what i have the problem with that's i'm just like okay no i agree

[01:45:58] random guy but that's not what people are thinking about when they when they read but they're not

[01:46:03] thinking about them that's what i want to ask them though like what about all of those babies

[01:46:08] and children who got eaten by their own mothers but the answer is going to you you already know

[01:46:14] what the answer is going to be right what what is it what is the answer going to be oh god's plan

[01:46:18] and lord works a mysterious ways exactly exactly i know i know there is no you don't ever you're

[01:46:25] never going to get a defined answer from them and the only answers that were allowed to have are the

[01:46:30] ones that god grants us right from their perspective from their perspective yeah the only answers

[01:46:35] that were allowed to have are the ones that god allow us to have okay and that's that's just how it

[01:46:41] works and we are not here to question god and that's part of the problem with being able to break

[01:46:48] away from religion is that part of the ingrained idea of what god is doesn't allow you to question

[01:46:57] him as a legitimate being right that you aren't allowed to question god god is just god

[01:47:02] and your trash right yeah who the fuck are you to question god right right you worm right essentially yes

[01:47:10] i mean that's what he has called us you've raised all you're right yeah so none of this really

[01:47:16] the what we're doing here is is just a exercise and in hopeful uh i i really do hope that we reach people

[01:47:29] you know not not necessarily to de convert them i i i i'm not here to specifically say i want to

[01:47:36] de convert Christians okay that's not my goal right if anything my goal is to get Christians to think

[01:47:44] more evenly about what they're what they're doing start asking the questions right why is it

[01:47:50] not okay to ask the questions the questions are right there to be asked yeah you should be able to

[01:47:55] ask these questions i should be able to say these things without being called blasphemous right it's

[01:48:00] in the fucking bible right you you should ask these questions they are right they're in the words

[01:48:06] right and they need to be asked and they need an answer they deserve an answer

[01:48:13] that's not for me to decide though and that's you know for the person that has their fate to decide

[01:48:18] whether or not they want question answered or they just won't blind faith so this just to clarify

[01:48:24] a point here this makes us sound like i'm like bitter that a bed malac got saved right sure i'm not bitter

[01:48:33] that he got saved i'm bitter that the innocent people didn't yeah that is not fair well just to play

[01:48:42] devil's advocate for a second they would say well how can you worry about saving everybody people have

[01:48:48] to die at some point right what goddard obviously has some specific i'm just playing devil's advocate

[01:48:53] here god obviously has some specific perfect purpose in in mind for a bed malac and so a bed malac got

[01:49:01] saved now the other people they serve to purpose too to show god's willingness to destroy even his

[01:49:08] own people as much as he loved them but he had to prove his point for the disobedience that they

[01:49:14] showed now a bed malac helped even though he wasn't necessarily an israelite he helped Jeremiah who

[01:49:23] was a true servant of god and he helped him you know further his path so he he helped god in his

[01:49:28] mission to save Jeremiah and certain aspects of the the israelite community i just i can't with

[01:49:36] i know i i can't either but i'm just i'm trying to to portray it in a way that

[01:49:42] would make sense to somebody like i'm trying to be fair you know like this if you want to look at

[01:49:46] that way you can i can't look at it that way that's what i'm saying like i don't understand how

[01:49:52] somebody can look at a baby being killed and say it's not mine to know or question and you know

[01:50:00] it's just god's plan and an inevitable plan you know and that baby served its purpose like what

[01:50:07] you're okay with that how i agree and i would say that that kind of uh acceptance of babies dying

[01:50:14] is probably a main driver of people not not a main driver but it is definitely one reason why some

[01:50:21] people will have left religion like it's not okay that god kills babies willy nilly like what the

[01:50:26] fuck man yeah it's bullshit it is so you you can't do that and call yourself a god it's not okay yeah

[01:50:34] we we do not approve of that sir right yeah we're better than you sorry

[01:50:41] anyway i think we're rambling on here we are just kind of fuck a bedmuleck is all you know

[01:50:47] honestly fuck god okay fuck god and the way that he saved a bedmuleck in nobody else okay i'm

[01:50:54] sorry fuck that this hypothetical god sorry i get carried away in our little like how we yeah play

[01:51:00] into the the whole thing in canning gods a dick in canning god is a dick okay well end on that note

[01:51:08] sounds good all right that was Jeremiah chapter 39 sure as fuck was and we're hoping to be back later

[01:51:16] today which it might be late evening mm-hmm we're hoping to be back later today with the last

[01:51:21] installment for this week which will be Jeremiah chapter 40 sounds good all right we will see you then bye

[01:51:34] husband wife do you remember what happened yesterday and where the hell we are today well um

[01:51:40] we actually read it earlier today well we read it yesterday but we released it today

[01:51:45] and this one's going out later than we had liked so but yesterday today whatever we read Jeremiah chapter 39

[01:51:54] correct and in that episode i believe kings eddekia had his eyes gouged out by king nebuchadnezzar

[01:52:02] because you know they got they caught him because that's how you yeah he was he was told

[01:52:07] he's he's gonna get screwed over so he did and then um let's see Jeremiah got told he was gonna

[01:52:17] you know you guys treat like kind of like stately you know kind of like how you would treat somebody who's

[01:52:23] on your trader yeah yeah right yeah and on top of that the guy that tried to help him out and like

[01:52:29] rescue him out of the sister and all that the bed no leg yeah he got also treated well

[01:52:36] mm-hmm by uh by nebuchadnezzar curious or in curious it is it solidified my ideas with regard to

[01:52:44] uh him being a double agent yeah for sure um the important thing to note in that chapter is

[01:52:50] that Jerusalem got breached and went down yeah and the other important note is that

[01:52:56] that being the case this is the beginning of the Babylonian exile right so those are the two

[01:53:01] important factors as far as timelines go and things like that um but the storyline the double

[01:53:08] agent shit it's it I'm loving it I love it so good it is great shit it really needs to be

[01:53:15] some kind of Netflix series it really does it really does this needs like fan-fix something yeah

[01:53:19] this is amazing yeah I love it all right so that was Jeremiah chapter 39 sure spark was which means

[01:53:26] that today we're reading Jeremiah chapter 40 all right let's do this okie dokie

[01:53:40] all right we are hopping into Jeremiah chapter 40 okay and just a quick note before we hop

[01:53:46] into the chapter oh boy it's not what you think it is no no no um this chapter is part of that

[01:53:52] narrative section consisting of chapters 37 to 44 oh okay so we are in story land sure

[01:53:59] that it's not forget got it okay yep all right so it's not a different chapter in the um

[01:54:05] not that I could find not that it was noted that seems very odd to me I didn't see that it was

[01:54:12] listed separately so I'm just going with it all right I'm calling BS on this but okay the word came

[01:54:20] the word or I'm sorry the word that came the word that came okay Jeremiah from the Lord after

[01:54:27] Nebuchadnezzan no wrong wrong it's the other Nebuchadnezzaradan okay sorry my brain was just like

[01:54:35] it says never the rest is sure yeah you know caneser yeah right so let me start that sentence over

[01:54:41] sure yeah yeah the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord after nebia Zeradan the captain of the guard

[01:54:49] had let him go from Rama when he had taken him bound and chains among all who were carried away captive

[01:54:56] from Jerusalem to Judah uh huh who were carried away captive to Babylon and that's the end of the

[01:55:03] sentence oh that's a really weird sentence it's not a sentence it's an intro actually oh

[01:55:10] it reads as a it's set up as a sentence that's verse one okay it's like I am about to be a sentence

[01:55:16] but until you get to the end of this you won't know it's not a sentence and that it is actually

[01:55:21] just a title is type thing right that was the period okay yeah okay and the captain of the guard

[01:55:28] took Jeremiah and said to him the Lord your God has pronounced this doom on this place now the Lord

[01:55:35] has brought it boom he brought the boom and has just has done just as he said whoa wait wait the

[01:55:42] captain of the guard said this yeah wait now the captain of the guard is speaking for the Lord

[01:55:47] the captain of the guard no the captain of the guard isn't speaking for the Lord the captain of the

[01:55:51] guard is like man your God brought this but he's saying this to Jeremiah right Jeremiah is literally

[01:55:58] the one that was telling everybody yeah that God was gonna bring so clearly um we're supposed to

[01:56:03] believe that uh the captain of the guard is one of two things okay either dumb that's not what I was

[01:56:11] gonna say but you're probably right no he's either um really really impressed like wow your God

[01:56:18] is awesome and he did this stuff yeah or which I never believe when they say that people outside

[01:56:25] of the religion are impressed with their God right right yeah no yeah never talk about that before

[01:56:30] that right so so we're supposed to believe either that or that um more likely he was somebody who

[01:56:40] was already familiar with Jeremiah and they had already maybe he was like Jeremiah's handler

[01:56:47] right like as the double agent yes that's what I'm saying like they probably and he's like damn this

[01:56:53] shit happened whoa right and then Jeremiah rewrote that to be like damn your God brought this yeah

[01:57:00] you know what I'm saying like I think it's that I think I think Jeremiah just like

[01:57:04] tooting his own horn and saying how other people were like other people other people totally said

[01:57:09] the same thing I said yeah other people were so impressed with me God I mean God yeah okay so the captain

[01:57:19] of the guard took Jeremiah and said to him whoa the Lord your God is pronounced this doom on this place

[01:57:25] now the Lord has brought it and has done just as he said just as you said he said right yeah whatever

[01:57:32] you Jeremiah let's not mince words we're talking to right because you people have sinned against the Lord

[01:57:37] you know the Lord that I don't fucking believe in because you people who follow a different God

[01:57:41] than I do sinned against your your God your God he who I don't give a shit about is punishing you

[01:57:49] okay yeah no this conversation never took place I'm just here to tell you

[01:57:53] and anyway since you guys sinned against the Lord and you have not obeyed his voice therefore

[01:57:59] this thing has come upon you and now look I free you this day from the chains that were on your hand

[01:58:07] okay you know because your king fucking told you to do yes right

[01:58:11] if it seems good to you to come with me to Babylon come and I will look after you

[01:58:16] the alternative is but if this is where I'm saying that Jeremiah gets a really really he gets treated

[01:58:24] really well okay but if it seems wrong for you to come with me to Babylon remain here so he gets

[01:58:29] a choice wow he can stay with the remnants that got left behind or he can go to Babylon and be looked

[01:58:35] after by the head of the guard yeah where he would probably be treated well obviously the

[01:58:42] loathing amount of his chains shit so like ordered by the leader of their people

[01:58:48] I mean it doesn't get much better than that by name right yeah yeah so

[01:58:53] the guard is like giving him the choice because the guards in charge of him the guards like you

[01:58:57] can come or go either way it's time whichever you think is better you get you get a pass yeah

[01:59:02] you get to choose right nobody else just you right see maybe a bed milleck right I don't know

[01:59:09] I don't know see all the land is before you wherever it seems good and convenient for you to go

[01:59:16] go there so he's like the whole world is yours yeah yeah decide what you want to do with it

[01:59:23] thanks for playing on team Babylon and uh you're you're free to go man yeah right yeah okay now while

[01:59:29] Jeremiah had not yet gone back never Zeradhan sorry yeah yeah check in my brain sure

[01:59:37] Nebius Zeradhan said go back to Getalaya the son of a hecom the son of Shafan whom the king of Babylon

[01:59:44] has made governor over the cities of Judah and dwell with him among the people or you know go wherever

[01:59:51] it seems convenient for you to go so the captain of the guard gave him rations and a gift and let him go

[01:59:57] wow okay a gift even yeah right um so in other um uh translations it says rash

[02:00:06] rations and supplies okay all right there yeah also um let me read one more

[02:00:13] I do like the gift idea though because of the double agent stuff yeah I'm just saying like no I

[02:00:18] don't know I payment in in full yes you are gold you are good to go then Jeremiah went to get

[02:00:25] a liar the son of a hecom to misspa and dwelt with him among the people who were left in the land

[02:00:31] okay okay yeah so let me read you some notes that I have now okay so get a liar was

[02:00:36] the son of a hecom as we said right the son of Shafan who was Josiah's secretary and he's the

[02:00:44] one that carried the newly found scroll to the king way back when okay remember that um the newly

[02:00:50] found scroll there was a newly found scroll when he like found some uh uh word of God stuff okay

[02:01:00] and then Josiah was like cool because he was one of the good kings sure yeah only they I do kind

[02:01:07] of remember something like that but only vaguely right so so a hecom so these are all like God people

[02:01:14] okay okay yeah a hecom was part of the delegation that Josiah sent to the prophetess holdah

[02:01:21] he also offered protection to Jeremiah after he had preached the temple sermon so these people were

[02:01:28] all in good graces with Jeremiah and Jeremiah was in good graces with them got it and these were people

[02:01:34] of higher status sure okay yeah and appointing get a liar it was a parent that never could

[02:01:41] nether no longer trusted the men of the house of David so he chose a man who had administrative

[02:01:48] experience but was not of the royal line got it and also might I suggest people who had been

[02:01:57] probably helping to bring Babylon in right yeah these people were all on Jeremiah side and Jeremiah was

[02:02:09] on um Babylon side yeah so I just have to believe that there was like this cabal and that there was

[02:02:17] a whole coup that happened and so it feels that way never could nether is like giving chart giving back

[02:02:25] the land to the people that he handplucked yeah you know who had helped him right okay so Jeremiah

[02:02:32] then lived among the poorest and most wretched of the land except for people that ran charge that

[02:02:37] they was actually staying with right but he stayed with those who were not sent to Babylon right

[02:02:42] yeah yeah the great bulk of these Judeans were of the underprivileged classes but there were others

[02:02:49] including some royal princesses as well as remnants of the Judean army who may have been engaged in

[02:02:55] guerrilla activity against the Chaldeans wow that's kind of interesting yeah I you don't really

[02:03:02] think of that when you're thinking of biblical times like you know guerrilla activity yeah guerrilla

[02:03:07] warfare and stuff like that that's very interesting like underground but that would describe a lot

[02:03:12] of stuff that yeah I would describe a lot of the stuff earlier in the Bible when like the um

[02:03:17] that came the night were not ever completely destroyed yeah and they just kept being there yeah like

[02:03:23] they were obviously engaged in some sort of like guerrilla warfare and like right running over here

[02:03:27] to stay alive and then going over there and whatever you know hiding out in somebody's attic yeah sure

[02:03:33] to speak yeah yeah so yeah I just thought that was kind of hmm okay right I had no idea

[02:03:40] and I wonder how they felt about I wonder how those guerrilla warfare people felt about like

[02:03:43] people like Jeremiah and you know all these people that stayed to run the kingdom for yeah never

[02:03:49] get an answer right yeah yeah yeah interesting yeah and when all the captains of the armies who were

[02:03:55] in the fields they and their men heard that the king of Babylon had made Get a Laya the son of a

[02:04:01] heathgum governor in the land and had committed to him men women and children and the poorest of the

[02:04:07] land who had not been carried away captive to Babylon then they came to Get a Laya at Mesba

[02:04:15] Ishmael the so call me Ishmael Ishmael the son of Nathaniah Jo Han I'm sorry

[02:04:26] Jo Hanan and Jonathan the sons of Kareya Surah the son of Tannumeth

[02:04:34] the sons of Eifai the Natofahite and Jezania the son of Mayah Chathite they and their men okay yeah

[02:04:46] and Get a Laya the son of a heathgum the son of Shafan took an oath before them and their men saying

[02:04:53] do not be afraid to serve the Chaldeans dwell in the land and serve the king of Babylon

[02:05:00] and it shall be well with you okay as for me I will indeed dwell at Mesba and serve the Chaldeans

[02:05:07] who come to us but you gather wine and summer fruit and oil put them in your vessels and dwell

[02:05:13] in your cities that you have taken okay yeah yeah yeah likewise when all the Jews who were in Moab

[02:05:21] among the Ammonites and Edom who were in all the countries heard that the king of Babylon had left a

[02:05:28] remnant of Judah and that he had set over them Get a Laya the son of a heathgum the son of Shafan

[02:05:35] yeah then all the Jews returned out of all places where they had been driven and came to the land

[02:05:41] of Judah to Get a Laya at Mespa and gathered wine and summer fruit in abundance okay so I guess

[02:05:50] they were like all of them happy or whatever but that doesn't make any like it sounds like the return

[02:05:55] to Judah right but I know it wasn't because that was 70 years down the line yeah so this is some

[02:06:02] other return to Judah or I'm interested in right what that meant exactly I guess but like I guess

[02:06:10] it's like they were saying okay so Babylon is letting some of us live now that they've conquered

[02:06:17] Jerusalem and burned it down yeah they're letting the rest of us live and they're saying

[02:06:22] and they put people that we know in charge right I guess it's safe to come out of hiding and come

[02:06:29] okay over here so like maybe the people out in the countryside and stuff like that were like

[02:06:34] and well let's go move into the city there's plenty of room now right that's rude all right but

[02:06:41] things about to get dark okay yeah moreover Johanna hand the son of Kareya and all the captains

[02:06:47] of the forces that were in the fields came to get a Laya at Mespa and said to him do you certainly

[02:06:54] know that Bayolas the king of the Ammonites has sent Ishmael the son of Nethanaya to murder you

[02:07:03] wow right and this is quick to get back to the whole uh you know intrigue yeah yeah but get a

[02:07:10] Laya the son of a he come did not believe them he was like nah no way why wouldn't you but

[02:07:17] whatever nobody would try to murder me awesome okay all right I'm a good guy who would want to murder me

[02:07:23] I mean you were installed by an enemy for so you know then Johanna hand the son of Kareya spoke

[02:07:31] secretly to get a Laya in Mespa sand let me go please and I will kill Ishmael the son of Nethanaya

[02:07:38] and no one will know it why should he murder you so that all the Jews who are gathered to you

[02:07:43] would be scattered and the remnant in Judah parish but get a Laya the son of a he come said to

[02:07:49] Johanna hand the son of Kareya Kareya you shall not do this thing for you speak falsely concerning Ishmael

[02:07:57] Ishmael never want to kill me so okay I got some notes ready yeah Ishmael the son of Nethanaya was

[02:08:06] of royal heritage he was an enthusiastic member of the anti Babylonian party oh and he was both

[02:08:14] jealous of and filled with hatred for get a Laya got it okay I had an anti Babylonian party like

[02:08:21] this sounds like a political party right yeah not not a balloons and ice cream party can call

[02:08:27] the anti babs the anti babs I love it now since Ishmael the would be executioner was of the

[02:08:35] royal house of David okay yeah he may have been slided or may have felt slided in being passed

[02:08:42] over for the responsible office of governor so Ishmael the son of Nethanaya had won his trust in

[02:08:49] some way got it and that's why dude was like no way he would never try to kill me get a Laya's

[02:08:56] like I love this guy why would he try to kill me right what do you think's gonna happen he's

[02:09:01] gonna get killed who could know that's next chapter oh oh I mean I think it's a pretty safe bet yeah

[02:09:09] yeah because anybody who's that trusty you know when they mention it like that yeah it's it's a

[02:09:15] done deal they didn't know how to do foreshadowing very well back then they really needed some

[02:09:21] literary agents and editors and stuff right I feel like they're trying really hard to carry on

[02:09:27] this story in in Judah when there's not really a story to be had there right like the Babylonian

[02:09:34] exile has started there it's not just started it's it's done it's on right right and this is

[02:09:41] the remnant that they left yeah to field there to to to to man the fields and stuff yeah so I don't

[02:09:48] I feel like this is like try hard here right this is this is not really needed maybe I don't know

[02:09:55] we'll see what happens but it is interesting to find out that there is still David David's descendants

[02:10:01] around so yeah they're they're clamoring for the but Jeremiah seems to be on the other guy's side

[02:10:08] right maybe right and I don't know all right we'll see Jeremiah's got a bad lot you know he always gets in

[02:10:14] these these predicaments where he's going to get in trouble for for saying what he says so

[02:10:18] hmm it would make it more interesting to finish out the rest of the book if we had some more you know

[02:10:24] machinations and intrigue it wouldn't be any fun if you had everything was rosy and good so yeah

[02:10:30] gotta get some politics up in here definitely definitely they're still fighting for power the whole

[02:10:36] city is done gone and burned down and the land has been conquered and they're still fighting for

[02:10:44] power over what's left right right that is hilarious to me honestly yep so that was Jeremiah chapter 40

[02:10:54] sure spoke was and before I get into what we're doing next but I do want to cover this so this

[02:10:58] is coming out as soon as we get done recording this which is early morning like after midnight

[02:11:05] on what would have been Friday Friday night now going into Saturday right so um

[02:11:11] um we're gonna get this out now and then tomorrow we're going to be recording the Q&A

[02:11:17] at some point later in the evening tomorrow and then we'll be recording the book club I think

[02:11:22] on Sunday at some point but it won't be like our normal morning release times right so I apologize

[02:11:28] for that in advance because we're still working to catch up yeah we don't want you

[02:11:32] slighted over you know us having missed days so you guys get less content we're trying to give you

[02:11:39] the same amount of content but the schedule has had to be changed around a little bit so that we

[02:11:44] can squeeze it all in and this just lets us do it let's us do it in a way that is less stressful for

[02:11:48] us so we're rather than doing three episodes all in one day yeah we're gonna keep it on schedule

[02:11:54] this week but it is gonna be a little behind schedule in that schedule yes so um anyway that was

[02:12:00] Jeremiah chapter 40 sure as fuck was and like I already said we'll be back with sorry I

[02:12:06] so I really got to cover that but beyond that on Monday we will be back with Jeremiah chapter 41

[02:12:12] all right we'll see you guys then bye

[02:12:20] husband wife guess what we're doing today well it's it is still Saturday it's Saturday

[02:12:26] no it's not it's Sunday it's Sunday shit but guess what we're doing anyway uh well we're doing

[02:12:33] what we should have done yesterday which is Q and a Saturday that's right we're gonna do a little bit

[02:12:39] more because it's not long what we've got yeah so I'm gonna actually be doing a little bit of a

[02:12:45] thing that I want to talk about this relevant and coming up soon so um yeah there will be uh

[02:12:51] there'll be the Q and A bit and then something else and then something else something else

[02:12:55] stick around right so uh what are we Q and a name today I thought we'd talk a little bit about

[02:13:01] Gettelaya Gettelaya okay all right sounds good you ready to do this sure it's fucking let's do it

[02:13:07] oki doki

[02:13:17] all right so let's talk about Gettelaya do you remember what he is who he is what he was doing how

[02:13:23] about you tell me because off top my head I don't exactly recall I think he's like the new leader

[02:13:30] maybe kind of yeah yeah um so you'll remember that uh Babylon came in and Zedekaya was like boom

[02:13:39] Gacha to the entire city yeah except for like Zedekaya had run off and then um Babylon was like

[02:13:47] that balls out and all that one still gotcha yeah yeah and so then um the leader of Babylon was

[02:13:55] I can't remember his name is why he's saying Babylon Babylon Nebuchadnezzar yeah Nebuchadnezzar

[02:14:00] that's right yeah he was like um so I need a leader down here with the remnant poor folk that are

[02:14:07] left behind sure yeah yeah and so he's looking around and he's like hmm I see you guys who are

[02:14:14] like kind of royalty but um I don't trust any of y'all fucks yeah we've tried this before it

[02:14:20] doesn't work out well yeah so I think I am going to use Gettelaya and appoint him as my um

[02:14:31] my governor of this area sure um he's got administrative experience he's not of the royal line

[02:14:38] he's gonna work with me so I think that'll be cool okay right yep and so then Jeremiah was given

[02:14:44] the choice of you can go with the prisoners to um you was like Shana's day or should I go

[02:14:51] should I stay uh sure I go now you definitely fed me that line but um if he had gone he would have

[02:14:59] been treated really well because he would have been right under the uh captain of the guard which

[02:15:04] was Nebuchadnezzar or something like that yeah Zedelon right I don't know anyway whatever that dude's name

[02:15:12] was right um he would have been treated very well or he could stay behind with the remnants and kind

[02:15:19] of try to you know rally them a little bit and yeah maybe take care of them or whatever sure so he chose

[02:15:25] to stay which I find very interesting and odd but okay right so Gettelaya governor of Judah what's

[02:15:33] up right yeah so okay Gettelaya then was like hey you know what let's try to make the best of this

[02:15:41] okay okay let's just try to you know rebuild the land a little bit see what we can fix here yeah

[02:15:48] and the people are like yeah you know okay okay right yeah but then Ishmael the son of Nethanaya

[02:15:58] okay Nethanaya was like I should have been made the governor because I am from the royal party

[02:16:05] and I fucking hate you yeah and then so somebody was like oh I don't think you should talk

[02:16:13] like that and Ishmael was like I'm gonna kill that bitch right and then someone's always pissed off

[02:16:19] when somebody else is right right and so then um somebody was like hey Gettelaya I think this

[02:16:26] Ishmael dude might want to kill you right and Gettelaya was like get the fuck out of here right

[02:16:32] right that would be stupid we're happy now we're rebuilding the land and plus he was I think getting

[02:16:37] along with the the guy that was gonna say well they had they had served in the same court for the last

[02:16:43] decade or whatever right so he's like no way he would never right you're being stupid this is my

[02:16:48] pal yeah you know we we served together we do good together yeah you know so he's like you're silly

[02:16:54] so let's talk about Gettelaya okay um the name Gettelaya means y'all has become great

[02:17:01] okay so his name is godly I guess sure okay he was the son of uh he come who saved the life

[02:17:09] of the prophet Jeremiah okay I don't know if you recall back when um like in the earlier chapters

[02:17:16] of Jeremiah um there was a guy who kind of stepped in and and like one of the governor people

[02:17:24] okay like one of the people with high stature kind of took his side and was like don't let's not kill

[02:17:30] this one yeah don't kill him yeah yeah so that was that was a he come who is Gettelaya's daddy right okay um

[02:17:38] and so a he come was the grandson of shafan who's mentioned in relation to the discovery of the

[02:17:46] scroll of teaching which I mentioned this when we were reading it yeah um some scholars

[02:17:52] identify that as the core of the book of Deuteronomy okay so remember when like it all went missing

[02:17:58] and then this one guy was like yeah we found it yeah but we found yeah yeah and so just I was

[02:18:04] like that's cool right they just found it like on the shelf of some library whatever as you do you know

[02:18:09] yeah yeah so anyway that's that's how this family is is related okay so they're they're not

[02:18:16] of the royal line of David but they are important royal David line adjacent right okay yeah

[02:18:25] yeah so Gettelaya was appointed by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon as governor of the Yehud district

[02:18:32] the Yehud district Yehud love that name yeah which was formed after defeat of the kingdom of Judah

[02:18:38] and the destruction of Jerusalem in part of territory that previously formed the kingdom okay yeah

[02:18:45] so he was supported by a Chaldean guard station that Miss Pa okay so you know

[02:18:53] Babylon uh Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar that guy why can't I suddenly remember his name

[02:18:58] I don't know Nebuchadnezzar was like okay we we won and now we're leaving and here guard guy you

[02:19:06] stay behind and I choose you um Gettelaya to wait is that his name Gettelaya yeah Gettelaya

[02:19:14] I'm having a hard time with names I apologize he's like guard guy you're in charge Gettelaya you're

[02:19:21] the governor and now I'm out peace dooses guy and he went back home right so they didn't really have

[02:19:27] free arraying they were they were in charge but they were in charge as long as they did the bidding

[02:19:32] of what Nebuchadnezzar has said yeah but they were they were given freedom within right structure

[02:19:40] sure you know structured freedom right so I mean it was it was a gilded cage but it was a cage

[02:19:45] nonetheless yeah but you know they weren't like doing slavery work they were just you know

[02:19:53] whatever yeah anyway you see what I'm saying yeah yeah so um he was supported by the Chaldean

[02:20:00] guard station at Miss Pa okay and on hearing of the appointment the Jews that had taken refuge

[02:20:05] in surrounding countries they returned to Judah okay because they were like oh wait they put

[02:20:11] one of us in charge yeah things are they were still we're still here they did a Judean governor

[02:20:17] right this is what unexpected right I guess it wasn't as bad as I know that bad yeah and so the new

[02:20:23] governor Gettelaya he began the task of restoring order peace and productivity in Judah okay and

[02:20:29] he saw that it would be useless for those who remained of Judah's army to attempt any sort of

[02:20:35] military action against the Babylonian occupation forces right so he was like no this is not we're

[02:20:41] not here to fight anymore they they already beat us yeah okay we're not gonna do that so he advised

[02:20:48] instead that all the people farmers and soldiers alike settle down and help make Judah's damaged

[02:20:55] farmland productive again sure which I mean work on what you can yeah for what you can yeah exactly

[02:21:00] which I mean he sounds kind of like a good guy you know I'm yeah he's making the best of it you know

[02:21:05] right and this would ensure for themselves a fairly comfortable existence under their new rulers

[02:21:11] okay and the only one really that would be put out would be the soldiers you know right they're like no

[02:21:17] there's bullshit the farmers whatever we farm who cares who's in charge yeah we're gonna be farming

[02:21:22] regardless right like I don't really care who boss man's name is yeah either way I'm farming the

[02:21:28] land and I don't probably get to see a lot of the benefits of it sure so this Gettelaya guy he's

[02:21:35] zealously like super excited to get things going he zealously began to encourage the people to

[02:21:42] cultivate the fields and vineyards okay and thus lay the foundation of security okay and the more

[02:21:48] that he was like saying let's do good stuff the more that people were like okay and the more

[02:21:54] that good stuff started to happen the more who that the people who had fled to neighboring lands during

[02:22:00] the war of destruction yeah they were attracted by news of the revival of the community so they

[02:22:05] started coming back to Gettelaya in Miss Pa and they were warmly welcomed by him so all of the

[02:22:11] people who had fled and were refugees and nearby towns so you guys being a good ruler yeah right

[02:22:17] they were all coming home they were like this cool this cool right okay at least to some people anyway

[02:22:22] right right Gettelaya also welcomed home those Judeans who fled to neighboring countries to escape

[02:22:28] the Babylonian army and under Gettelaya's leadership the Judeans soon saw their country be

[02:22:36] calling productive again so I mean there was a time period when they were actually rebuilding right

[02:22:42] this wasn't just like two days and then yeah you know this was like a good strong period of time

[02:22:49] right when they were actually rebuilding yeah but the ishmail guy yeah he was having none of it okay so

[02:22:58] where we left off in our last chapter chapter 40 mm-hmm was he didn't like it so I'm about to give

[02:23:07] you a spoiler okay okay because when we read on Monday in chapter 41 ishmail is actually going to

[02:23:15] kill Gettelaya which we guessed at we did guess I mean it wasn't like a real big for shadowing

[02:23:22] it's not like a super spoiler right um the reason that I'm giving that away in this little Q&A

[02:23:28] section uh-huh because um that assassination has repercussions to this day oh yeah the assassination

[02:23:38] of Gettelaya left Judah devoid of any Jews or Jewish rule and completed the destruction of the

[02:23:45] first temple oh wow yeah like that was it it was done at that so they destroyed themselves essentially

[02:23:50] yes um Jewish sages established the fast of Gettelaya so this is a day of memorial still today

[02:23:59] wow yeah it's observed on the third day of tishry so as not to coincide with rush

[02:24:05] hoshana which is the Jewish new year that occurs in the late summer slash early autumn okay okay um

[02:24:13] it's suspected that his assassination occurred on the first day of of that time period okay but

[02:24:21] they don't want it to coincide with that so that's why they celebrated on the third day and

[02:24:26] stash but yeah that is still actually a one of the I think for uh feast days interesting yeah so

[02:24:35] I didn't want to talk about Gettelaya without mentioning that he is actually significant still significant

[02:24:42] day yeah yeah so um that is my little tidbit on Gettelaya we will still read a little bit about him

[02:24:49] on Monday when he's not dead yet sure yeah but gets dead real fast right right okay yeah so that

[02:24:56] rings us to uh what I wanted to talk about oh yeah oh yeah and uh so I some of you may have heard

[02:25:02] that tomorrow being uh Monday the uh April the 8th 2024 there's gonna be a total solar eclipse

[02:25:12] a totally clips of the heart you know no no it's the sun yeah totally clips of the heart so it struck me

[02:25:21] out of left field kind of and I it shouldn't know because this happens every time there's something

[02:25:25] weird happening different happening whatever it happens pretty much daily actually I would say

[02:25:31] somebody's got some sort of a prophecy some sort of uh an idea that the apocalypse is gonna happen

[02:25:38] that the end of times is on its way it is on its way every day always yeah for several thousand years now

[02:25:46] yeah they're kind of late but I mean you know whatever whatever so they keep we keep always having

[02:25:51] these new things where they're like the end of the world is coming on this date remember remember

[02:25:57] why 2k yes I don't know that that was real biblical though that was more like the computer is gonna

[02:26:03] ruin it yeah right yeah so I'm sure there were some biblical stuff going on then but you know

[02:26:08] it didn't feel biblical to me I was in Florida at the time and a lot of the people that I talked to

[02:26:15] they were actually stockpiling um water and weapons and canned goods wow yeah because they were

[02:26:24] society is gonna fall I mean to be fair my mom bought some bottle out of canned goods and some water

[02:26:28] and I think some duct tape or something I don't know right we had we had a stockpile I remember yeah

[02:26:33] so yeah that happened during y2k kids ask your parents what y2k was about anyway so tomorrow

[02:26:45] well actually as you don't have much time probably if you're listening to this today which

[02:26:51] we're gonna release as soon as we're done you've got to tomorrow and then tomorrow if you're

[02:26:55] listening to this you don't listen to it before like I don't know one or two o'clock in the afternoon

[02:27:00] eastern time it's probably already happening man yeah I mean if the world ends we won't get a lot of

[02:27:05] listens on this one so you know I guess if the world ends the number of listens we did or didn't

[02:27:12] get is going to be the last time are concerns exactly that being said in the interest of kind of

[02:27:19] giving the other side and the the information that I have heard from them oh my um I am going to

[02:27:26] play a couple of clips here so okay I'd like you guys to just listen and then we'll come back and

[02:27:31] we'll talk a little bit more about this okay that sounds fun all right let's do this okay dokey

[02:27:36] and this is what you don't know about three days of darkness the solar eclipse on April 8th has

[02:27:40] stirred interest and concern related to biblical prophecy it will be a total eclipse visible

[02:27:45] across the US which won't happen again for 20 years and it is not just any eclipse like the ones

[02:27:51] we have seen before as it will be on the same day as the three days of darkness in Egypt during an

[02:27:56] eclipse the moon blocks the sun temporarily but beyond its visual spectacle people see connections

[02:28:01] to warnings and scripture about signs from God in the biblical scriptures astronomical phenomena

[02:28:07] are alluded to as warning signs as the Bible tells us in Joel 2 verse 31 the sun shall be turned into

[02:28:13] darkness and the moon into blood before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes a past eclipse

[02:28:19] on August 24th 2017 went through seven cities named Salam another eclipse will cross America with

[02:28:26] a similar pattern over seven cities called Nineveh as in the book of Jonah the word Salam according to

[02:28:32] the Bible is peace so God is said to have offered peace seven times through these signs this next

[02:28:37] eclipse crosses Nineveh cities and makes a perfect cross on the center of the nation right in the center

[02:28:42] of the cross is a city called rapture what is God's message he's coming very very soon and then

[02:28:49] there's this one the solar eclipse is coming next month and will cross over many cities named Nineveh

[02:28:56] now what is the significance of this and what is God saying there was a biblical scholar named

[02:29:01] Donald Wiseman and he speculated that the eclipse took place around the time that Jonah arrived in

[02:29:06] Nineveh and urged the people to repent otherwise the city would have been destroyed now the path on

[02:29:12] April 8th for the U.S. eclipse passes directly over or nearby these towns look at this Nineveh

[02:29:19] Texas Nineveh Missouri Nineveh Indiana Nineveh Ohio Nineveh Pennsylvania Nineveh Virginia Nineveh

[02:29:27] New York Nineveh Nova Scotia Now Nineveh is mentioned in the Bible most notably in the book of Jonah

[02:29:35] where it was associated with the city full of sin and vice now prior to its fall however Nineveh

[02:29:41] was the largest urban center in the world now as the story is related in book Jonah the prophet

[02:29:48] Jonah was called by God to go to Nineveh and to prophesy disaster if they did not repent because

[02:29:54] of their excessive wickedness now Jonah wanted nothing to do with Nineveh he did not listen to God

[02:30:01] and we all know the story of Jonah but thank God the second time he listened and he went to Nineveh

[02:30:07] and preached to them and they listened and they repented so is this eclipse coming a sign from God

[02:30:13] because of the significance of all the cities named Nineveh what do you think comment below

[02:30:18] but nonetheless we have to get ready because God is coming soon comment below what you think about

[02:30:25] okay so that was that that was the I mean there's there's a million other of these

[02:30:32] clips out there about Nineveh yeah about Nineveh and like it even gets weirder than that they

[02:30:38] start talking about numerology and just all kinds of weird shit so that's kabbala stuff right

[02:30:45] right yeah and it's I just the amount of times I can I hear about in timed prophecies because of

[02:30:54] this event or that event all the time but the one that really made this one stand out to me is that

[02:31:02] in I think it was to maybe it was yesterday um but Marjorie Taylor Greene decided that she was

[02:31:10] going to chime in on this little conspiracy theory here okay so on let me let me find the date

[02:31:18] here exactly I've got to pull it up here so it can be just one moment but it happened very recently

[02:31:24] and I am still looking here but it happened on April 5th so two days ago Marjorie Taylor Greene says

[02:31:34] God is sending America strong science to tell us to repent earthquakes and eclipses and many

[02:31:40] more things to come I pray that our country listens oh my goodness yeah yeah and then not only she

[02:31:46] didn't take that down she followed up with it and retweeted it with her own another comment that says

[02:31:54] that many have mocked and scoffed at this post and even put community notes Jesus talked about

[02:32:00] that in Luke 1254-56 yes eclipses are predictable and earthquakes happen and we know when comments

[02:32:08] are passing by however God created all those things all these things and you and uses them to be

[02:32:14] signs for those who us who believe but how do you how I just I can't you can't even formulate words

[02:32:26] no it's so it anger me like it's so asinine how are natural events signs I've never understood

[02:32:33] how are natural events that can be calculated yeah we've known about this eclipse way

[02:32:39] longer than you've been alive Marjorie Taylor Greene right so like it has no significance

[02:32:46] it is just something that it was and isn't will always happen well what I find interesting is

[02:32:52] nil de graste Tyson took a lot of shit because he was always with the last um big gigantic exciting

[02:33:01] eclips he was so dismissive he's like my guys there's a fucking eclipse of something somewhere

[02:33:08] you know all the time right like every moment there's some kind of

[02:33:12] fantastical um astronomical event that can be celebrated because we're God damn tiny rocks circling

[02:33:21] the giant sun and in a I mean ultimately we're a tiny solar system and a giant universe you

[02:33:27] know like we're so insignificant and things are just happening you know like that's just what happens

[02:33:32] yeah and the cool thing to me has always been science right like this shit is is predictable this

[02:33:39] shit is it's you can explain it there's a reason for it and we can know those things which is really

[02:33:45] fucking cool yeah but then these religious nuts have to turn them into a god damn prophecy

[02:33:50] in a circus yeah and make shit up because wasn't like they were talking about the towns of Nineveh

[02:33:56] that is supposed to go through and that's not exactly correct I don't think well no there's only like

[02:34:02] three towns of Nineveh not like eight or some shit like that yeah and it's not a god damn x

[02:34:09] or whatever the fuck they're trying to say it is right well there's multiple symbols that they're

[02:34:13] attaching to it there's like an a and across and a you know whatever like they're attaching all

[02:34:19] kind of signal of symbolism to these things so right and they're just throwing some getting at the wall

[02:34:24] hoping something sticks honestly it's clickbait mm-hmm but you know the the truth is that we have a

[02:34:31] congresswoman in our national political realm who is spreading these fucking conspiracy theories

[02:34:41] right like she is literally she believes that this is a sign from God that it might be the

[02:34:47] beginning of the rapture in times or some shit like that she believes this shit and she's not alone

[02:34:53] there are many people who think this is a sign which is silly in and of itself but for somebody of

[02:34:58] that caliper of that stature yes to be to be in our hallowed halls of it's a fucking embarrassment

[02:35:10] it is very embarrassing yeah like this is this is embarrassing for the United States

[02:35:15] to have somebody up there saying conspiracy theory bullshit based on biblical fucking prophecies right

[02:35:22] you've got to be had that so fucking 1600s right I mean what the fuck well in the the whole three

[02:35:29] days of darkness yeah like hi I literally was looking that up because I was like what's

[02:35:34] the three days of darkness sure yeah it falls on a Thursday Friday Saturday so we're good y'all

[02:35:41] right there you go this past and we're all here that's not it this is in the one this is

[02:35:46] the one nope I didn't say I didn't see one day of darkness much less three of them and tomorrow

[02:35:52] it's only supposed to be like seven minutes of darkness or some shit like that right right get the

[02:35:57] fuck out of here with that but I did make some I did make some merch out of this I made some

[02:36:03] I wasn't raptured um t-shirts and hoodies and mugs and stuff so it's got the date on it it's got

[02:36:09] the date on it so if you guys want to get your merch for the the solar eclipse and ensure

[02:36:13] everybody how you weren't raptured head over to our website you know and I should get the merch shop

[02:36:19] I should get some for my parents because they won't have been raptured either right right

[02:36:22] you'll find that very disappointing I mean probably yeah yeah anyway I didn't really have

[02:36:29] anything specific to like there is no facts to discuss here right this is just all a bunch of idiots

[02:36:35] on fucking online making shit up to fit their narrative that they want the world end so that's

[02:36:42] all that's all I had I just had to share it with you and I had to tell you how mad marjorie

[02:36:47] Taylor Greene shared this bullshit on her fucking Twitter feed and she's an idiot and you're mad

[02:36:52] I am I'm mad because you know what okay because people always always ask why do we why do we get

[02:37:02] angry why do we care so much about the bible and Christianity and why do we get upset about it

[02:37:08] I get upset about it because of this kind of bullshit we have a political figure head in our government

[02:37:17] who believes that the world is going to end tomorrow right because of a sign from fucking God

[02:37:25] I don't want someone like that making decisions for me in our government right I don't want someone

[02:37:33] like that thinking that they have any right to influence my life at all right because they're dumb

[02:37:43] they're just fucking dumb and here's the thing like I can hear the argument being like but they have

[02:37:49] faith and just let people have their own different faith no this is not a difference of opinion y'all

[02:37:55] she's saying that this is a sign from God it is not I'm not saying that your God doesn't exist in

[02:38:01] this sentence okay right I'm not talking about your faith or your belief what I am saying in this

[02:38:07] very moment is that no and eclipse which has been calculated to the minute right is not a sign

[02:38:16] from God it happens regularly yes this is this is what I am telling you right like I'm not even

[02:38:25] talking about opinions I'm not talking about can't we all just get along and you know you guys you

[02:38:32] kids just hug each other and make up no no I'm not going to right no she's she's an idiot at best

[02:38:42] and a idiotic liar at worst right you know which one is your pig yeah I'm going with idiotic

[02:38:50] liar because she has been known to lie and she's an idiot right I mean she did believe in like

[02:38:55] Jewish space lasers or something starting forest fires so I don't know whatever she's an idiot

[02:39:01] and has no business in politics yeah yeah no I that that that much she's proven so I didn't really

[02:39:08] have anything else to share about it I just want to discuss that and talk about it for a minute

[02:39:12] because obviously this solar eclipse is happening on Monday possibly today when you're listening to

[02:39:17] this at the very least tomorrow if you're listening to this as soon as it comes out so I want everyone

[02:39:23] oh something else to say I have heard from reliable sources that accents on the road do go

[02:39:31] up during the solar eclipse so everybody be safe out there because people stop to you know

[02:39:37] it's dumb also this is dumb also right but people stop in the middle of the fucking road to

[02:39:41] watch the guy's name eclipse that and if they didn't realize it was happening and

[02:39:45] the sky is suddenly dark for a minute yeah that could be spooky that's disconcerting yeah not

[02:39:51] everybody is you know dialed in and aware moreover yes do be careful but moreover I've also heard

[02:40:00] that you really should also don't look at the sun don't directly at the sun except for

[02:40:07] apparently and look this up for yourself because I don't want to be the authority on this 100

[02:40:12] but I apparently there are two minutes in which you are allowed to look at the sun maybe because

[02:40:17] you're not because the sun's not there so you're not looking at the sun you're looking at the lack

[02:40:22] of sun right right right but I'm just you know and toward that end the corona that surrounds where

[02:40:29] the sun is supposed to be but isn't it's supposed to be very gorgeous yeah but moreover what I was

[02:40:34] going to say is that if you are out there enjoying the eclipse and you know partaking of the

[02:40:44] excitement of this natural phenomenon I have heard that you're supposed to not just look up but

[02:40:50] also look around yeah and feel the air change in temperature mildly and enjoy the sound

[02:40:59] of nature changing for a moment yeah like the wind or the it's an experience yeah like you might hear

[02:41:09] the birds stop or start you might hear locusts or whatever you whatever yeah things will happen

[02:41:16] things will happen also I have heard that during a full fullery clips like this that the air might

[02:41:25] even get a little shimmery in some places yeah like so look around tell me what you see yeah

[02:41:31] and we are right we are literally right in the path of this thing so date no hi oh date no hi oh yeah

[02:41:37] but it's supposed to be cloudy overhead tomorrow so we might not it'll still get dark we're still

[02:41:42] going to be outside yeah but you know we'll see what hopefully I'll be clear hopefully we'll be

[02:41:46] clear right for the you know at least the two I want to see the two minutes you know the the corona

[02:41:51] the whole bit there so so be safe be careful on the roads if you're driving do enjoy it don't stare at

[02:41:58] the sun do look around and let us know what experiences you have or if you think the whole thing is

[02:42:06] stupid and overblown and not worth it sure yeah um on that note I think we are not doing a book club

[02:42:13] this week because time just got away from us and something got to go and the weekend ones are usually

[02:42:19] the ones we got to skip before we fall behind right so that being said I will get the weekly wrap-up

[02:42:25] out here after this and then we will be back tomorrow with Jeremiah chapter 41 all right we'll see

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